The Charlie Kirk Show - How George Floyd’s Death Radically Reshaped America—Exposing CRT LIVE from Minnesota

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00:01:11.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:51.000 We are continuing our tour here, and I'm glad to be here in Minnesota.

00:01:54.000 Unlike some people who run for president, I actually get the state's rights as we travel.

00:01:59.000 We were in Michigan yesterday, and I've been looking forward to this one for a variety of different reasons.

00:02:04.000 First of all, I just love Minnesota.

00:02:05.000 It's a really nice place.

00:02:07.000 Please don't.

00:02:08.000 Here's just some advice.

00:02:09.000 Just don't, like, just don't totally mess up this state.

00:02:12.000 It was built by wonderful Scandinavians, and it seems as if it's just being destroyed now.

00:02:17.000 Rather intentionally, we're actually going to talk about that because my whole family's actually from Austin, Minnesota, many generations back in Austin, Minnesota.

00:02:25.000 Yeah.

00:02:26.000 So, and also Marshallton, Iowa, so not too far from here.

00:02:30.000 I grew up in Chicago, but many generations past.

00:02:32.000 So we have a lot of Minnesota ties here.

00:02:35.000 And I was looking forward to coming to this specific stop, like Little House on the Prairie, this kind of idea of small town America, which feels as if we're now intentionally destroying that.

00:02:45.000 And so I grew up listening to someone who I fundamentally disagree with on many issues, but I don't think he ever was characterized correctly.

00:02:53.000 And many people not in college will know this name.

00:02:55.000 Maybe you guys will know Garrison Keillor.

00:02:57.000 And, you know, Garrison Keillor obviously wasn't Little House on the Prairie.

00:03:01.000 It was Prairie Home Companion.

00:03:02.000 And he was always kind of this national public radio voice for Minnesota, 800 radio stations across the country.

00:03:10.000 And he got me too in like 2017 or whatever.

00:03:13.000 And, but I think that in some ways, the Garrison Keeler wing of the American left is gone and dead, where his whole approach was that there's something profoundly beautiful about small town America and that there's something special about the family.

00:03:29.000 And what was that?

00:03:30.000 How he opened up every broadcast or closed it.

00:03:32.000 He said, we're like, the men are above, like, children are above average and the women are, you know, super strong, whatever it was, kind of this like sign-off that was like really kind of quaint and romantic and made you chuckle.

00:03:41.000 But the whole idea of kind of the Garrison Keeler, you know, Prairie Home Companion was that maybe we shouldn't hyper corporatize our entire lifestyle and all move to cities and become childless and godless, that maybe there's something worth preserving and conserving.

00:03:58.000 And he would call himself a left-winger.

00:04:00.000 I never actually thought that.

00:04:01.000 He might have had really socially liberal policies, but the idea that all of a sudden towns like Mankato and he called it Lake Wobegon, which was the famous lake that he used to talk about, is we've seen this massive trend in the last couple of years, especially of rural America being destroyed and allowing, just like all moving to kind of these urban centers of madness, Minneapolis being one of them.

00:04:25.000 We're going to talk about Minneapolis, where the founding fathers warned us about this, where they said, if you become too concentrated in these urban areas, urban areas are prone to rumor with a spice of madness.

00:04:37.000 I just kind of love that.

00:04:38.000 That's what James Madison said, where it's going to be these kind of combustible centers of activism, where if you're a farmer and you're actually in touch with the land and you know the person who educates your children, you know the pastor, that that's the truest form of local government.

00:04:53.000 And this country was founded on thousands and tens of thousands of fictitious but actual cities like Lake Wobegon that Garrison Keillor once talked about.

00:05:03.000 And so kind of coming to a place like this that doesn't quite honestly get as much attention.

00:05:07.000 Usually people just go to Minneapolis or wherever was something that we really wanted to do for a variety of different reasons.

00:05:13.000 But also I think it's profoundly important that we as conservatives don't overindulge in this idea of everyone move to the cities and stop having families and stop owning property.

00:05:23.000 I think the trend should be the opposite, actually.

00:05:25.000 I think that we should defend small town America and say that there's something profoundly beautiful about it.

00:05:30.000 And so we'll talk about that.

00:05:32.000 And you could tell me why I was wrong about Garrison Keillor.

00:05:35.000 I'm sure he has plenty of shortcomings and failures.

00:05:37.000 He was kind of a sarcastic snob in a lot of different ways.

00:05:40.000 But I think he was onto something.

00:05:41.000 And I think the American left has just dismissed that entire view.

00:05:45.000 In fact, they have nothing but contempt for this part of the world.

00:05:48.000 And so, but what I want to open up with, in addition to that, is kind of why we named our tour what it is.

00:05:54.000 And some people have been, you know, very opinionated about what they think we're talking about here.

00:05:59.000 But CRT is now everywhere, whether we like it or not.

00:06:02.000 It's in our schools, it's in our military, it's in our corporations, it's in our political process.

00:06:06.000 Critical race theory, woke is - whatever you want to call it.

00:06:09.000 It's a very simple ideology.

00:06:10.000 We don't have to overthink it.

00:06:12.000 If you guys want to ask questions about it, we can go into the actual intellectual roots of it.

00:06:16.000 But it's this idea that somehow the systems we have in front of us in our country are systemically unjust.

00:06:22.000 They're actually racist.

00:06:24.000 That if you're a white person, whether you realize it or not, you're participating in this racist experiment that you must now endlessly apologize for things you didn't do, but simply what you look like.

00:06:35.000 And I could go through example through example.

00:06:37.000 And some, for example, let's just use Atlanta public schools, where they're segregating white kids in one classroom and black kids in another classroom in a second grade classroom in Atlanta public schools.

00:06:49.000 United Airlines has come out and they said they want 50% of all the new pilots that they hire to be black pilots.

00:06:56.000 Now, I have no problem with black pilots, obviously, but are they now going to be prioritizing competent pilots or pilots with a certain melanin content in their skin color?

00:07:07.000 Now, I know for you, I want to make sure the pilot that's hired in the plane I'm riding in actually knows what they're doing, not like check some sort of diversity quota box.

00:07:15.000 I mean, you go to your doctor, you're like, hey, okay, it's not that I want to see the best doctor.

00:07:19.000 If I have a tumor, I have cancer.

00:07:20.000 You know what?

00:07:21.000 I want a diverse doctor.

00:07:23.000 I mean, what's really happening here is the deterioration of competency and the elevation of diversity. 0.91

00:07:30.000 So this is where it all comes home here, is that just 70 miles down the street and an hour 20 minutes north, our country profoundly changed.

00:07:41.000 And this is the other reason why I wanted to come to Minnesota, because we're going to participate in all sorts of thought crimes here tonight.

00:07:46.000 So buckle up. 0.96

00:07:47.000 It's going to be a lot of fun, which is, thank you, which is On May 25th, 2020, up in Minneapolis, a cell phone video changed the trajectory of our entire nation in this state.

00:08:04.000 The reason why our tour is called the CRT Tour is because of George Floyd's death and the misinterpretation of that.

00:08:13.000 And I'm not going to go on this endless soapbox defending Derek Chauvin.

00:08:17.000 I think he's kind of not a great person. 0.99

00:08:18.000 But I am also going to offer some context and some nuance about the death of George Floyd that no one dares to say out loud, which is that this guy was a scumbag. 0.99

00:08:27.000 Now, does that mean it deserves to die? 0.99

00:08:28.000 That's two totally different things. 0.93

00:08:29.000 Of course not.

00:08:30.000 But the idea that someone who had 10 times the legal limit of fentanyl was illegally counterfeiting current, like trading counterfeit currencies, was resisting arrest and previously put a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach, who then dies, according to the first medical examination for the Hennepin County Examiner, said he died due to asphyxiation or a drug overdose.

00:08:53.000 The second the medical examination said it was due to suffocation or due to the knee on the neck, that somehow we must say, you know what?

00:09:02.000 Let's profoundly restructure society.

00:09:04.000 And that's what happened, is that one video in one moment of highly emotional footage that was a lot more complicated and nuanced than anyone ever wanted to admit at the moment did what?

00:09:14.000 All of a sudden says, yeah, you know what?

00:09:16.000 This American project's been going really well. 0.95

00:09:18.000 Instead, let's put white people one classroom, black people another classroom. 0.98

00:09:22.000 Western Washington University has come out and they have black only dormitories. 0.96

00:09:26.000 Columbia University has come out and they have black only graduation ceremonies and Hispanic only graduation ceremonies.

00:09:33.000 Why?

00:09:34.000 Because of one cell phone footage that happened on May 25th, 2020, right down the street.

00:09:38.000 And here's why, is that we as conservatives, and what do you want to call yourself, you know, pro-American, pro-freedom, whatever, you know, there's this old quote that if you label me, you negate me.

00:09:47.000 I'm happy to say I'm a conservative.

00:09:48.000 I'll tell you why.

00:09:49.000 But it's like not a woke person.

00:09:52.000 I guess that's a fair categorization for most people nowadays, hopefully, is that we look at one of the mistakes we've made is that we underemphasize the power of visual and video medium.

00:10:06.000 And in that one video was everything the activists needed to revolutionize society.

00:10:11.000 So you had a white man and a black man, literal knee on the neck, which before that incident even happened, was kind of this incantation that they would say, that white America has a knee on black America's neck.

00:10:23.000 And then in addition to that, you had someone that just wasn't a random white person, you had a police officer.

00:10:28.000 And the police officer, which many of us know, represents the administration of the law.

00:10:34.000 So so many activists could say, see, that right there is what we've been talking over the last 30 and 40 years.

00:10:40.000 And immediately, instead of acting patiently and prudently and slowing down and saying, hold on a second, is this an isolated incident?

00:10:48.000 Is this happening on a daily basis?

00:10:50.000 We then allowed, quite honestly, the most corrupt and disingenuous voices that any human being could possibly find around anything to completely and totally reorganize society.

00:11:01.000 And this then, of course, happened with the entire summer of what they call the racial reckoning of last summer, you know, otherwise known as Floyd-Palooza, when we decided just to destroy our entire nation. 0.85

00:11:12.000 And whereas as if like, I'm so angry about systemic racism, I'm going to go burn down a Wendy's.

00:11:18.000 Like, yeah, just like robbing Adidas sneakers from All of America is not going to bring George Floyd back, right?

00:11:25.000 That's a very obvious thing.

00:11:26.000 But if you dare say that, they call you a bad name, which again, couldn't really care less.

00:11:30.000 We're going to say things that are true.

00:11:32.000 And so what ended up happening throughout June and July of last year, $2 billion in damages, by the way, after that specific incident, America's actually become a less pleasant and more dangerous place to live.

00:11:46.000 Murders are up 30% since May of last year of what happened here in Minneapolis.

00:11:51.000 I'm not sure really the status quo of like what that says could be like the state of affairs of what's happening in Minneapolis, but they tried to defund the police.

00:11:58.000 They still have private security.

00:12:00.000 What is kind of the latest there?

00:12:01.000 I guess they're sort of half defunding the police.

00:12:03.000 It's a more dangerous place to live.

00:12:04.000 All of you know that.

00:12:05.000 If you've gone down to Minneapolis, it's not the town it used to be.

00:12:09.000 And so right on that corner of Chicago Street and 38th Street where George Floyd died, all of a sudden, we as a civilization said, you know what?

00:12:18.000 Our entire history of the rule of law, of the administration of such separation of powers, checks and balances, independent judiciary, presumption of innocence, you know, trying to put criminals off the streets, let's throw that all out.

00:12:30.000 Instead, we need to reconsider and recalibrate society as we know it.

00:12:35.000 And the damage is real, is what I'm here to tell you tonight.

00:12:38.000 And tonight, as we do this tour, we need to stop and realize how severe and real of a mistake we have made as a country to allow it to go as far as we have for this long.

00:12:48.000 That here we are in October of 2021 in every single metric you can imagine of violent crime is going up.

00:12:55.000 Now, it's not necessarily going up in rural America.

00:12:57.000 It's actually the very communities that they say they want to help and serve, black and Hispanic communities, where their communities are actually becoming more dangerous, more violent, and a less safe place to live. 1.00

00:13:08.000 But kind of embedded into this entire narrative is, and that's why this one video was so powerful in some ways, was that this is a caricature of what's happening every single day.

00:13:20.000 That black people are being gunned down simply because of the color of their skin.

00:13:25.000 Now, this is also why the nuance around the Floyd incident was so incredibly misleading, is that Derek Chauvin actually had multiple interactions with other black people throughout that day and did not single out George Floyd because he was black.

00:13:42.000 Did you know that George Floyd actually in the video asked to be put on the ground?

00:13:45.000 That he was the one that is actually resisting arrest?

00:13:49.000 And now, again, people can flight that will say, Charlie, do you think he deserves that?

00:13:52.000 Of course, that's not what I'm saying.

00:13:53.000 Obviously, what I'm saying is you watch the video, the actual police cam video, there's back and forth going there where he says, I can't breathe seven times before he actually goes down onto the ground because he was actually probably already experiencing a drug overdose well before that incident actually happened.

00:14:10.000 But when you actually look at the statistics, not only have we been lied to, but it's an Orwellian trick.

00:14:15.000 It's the opposite of the truth.

00:14:17.000 Not only are black people not being gunned down because of the color of their skin, the opposite is indeed true. 1.00

00:14:23.000 That in community after community, police officers are restraining themselves to actually police many of these communities of color.

00:14:30.000 I'll go through some of these numbers, which is you look at, so they say that they're being gunned, unarmed blacks are being gunned down at a massive rate in America.

00:14:38.000 Well, the police fatally shot nine unarmed blacks and 19 unarmed whites in 2019.

00:14:44.000 More unarmed whites were gunned down and shot by police in 2019.

00:14:48.000 In just the last two years, 19 and 20, 30 total unarmed blacks were killed in two years with 600 million police interactions.

00:14:58.000 So you have 600 million police interactions and you have 30 blacks that are killed that are unarmed.

00:15:04.000 Now, if you actually go into those numbers, many of them are like they were reaching for the weapon.

00:15:08.000 They were in a car trying to run over a police officer.

00:15:11.000 Very, very nuanced.

00:15:13.000 And so you're trying to tell me that we should completely restructure civil society for maybe 10 or 12 incidents in a country of 335 million people with 600 million police interactions.

00:15:24.000 So in 2018, there were 7,407 black homicide victims.

00:15:29.000 Assuming a comparable number of victims last year, those nine unarmed black victims of police shootings represent 0.1% of all blacks killed in 2019.

00:15:38.000 Yeah, that's the emphasis of the entire conversation in that question.

00:15:42.000 And in 2018, you actually look at crime statistics. 0.89

00:15:45.000 Blacks made up 53% of known homicide offenders in the United States and commit 60% of robberies, even though blacks are 13% of the population. 0.99

00:15:54.000 So far, committing far more crimes than the percentage of the population are. 0.99

00:15:58.000 Now, if you dare say these things, you will lose your job.

00:16:00.000 You'll get kicked out of class.

00:16:01.000 Guess what?

00:16:02.000 I couldn't care less because things that are true need to be said.

00:16:05.000 That if you are afraid to read off crime statistics as they are, and there's a big conflation that sometimes happens.

00:16:15.000 The major reason why the black community unfortunately gets into a cycle of crime and violence is because they're missing the most important ingredient that BLM refuses to talk about. 0.99

00:16:26.000 Strong men in the household. 0.88

00:16:28.000 Putting fathers back into the household. 0.87

00:16:31.000 And instead, they want to talk about a war on police and systemic laws that are written incorrectly or whatever they might be saying.

00:16:41.000 And so you have in Chicago today, Kim Fox today.

00:16:44.000 Kim Fox, who is a kind of a like the perfect example of what happens when critical race theory gets implemented into law. 0.61

00:16:51.000 She released five gangbangers just back onto the streets, even though there's cell phone footage of a gunfire back and forth of two gangs shooting at each other and one person was killed and she says there was insufficient evidence, even though you could very well see, and they all but admitted to it.

00:17:10.000 Even Lori Lightfoot, who I'm not a fan of at all, has come out and said that this is going to make Chicago a much more dangerous place.

00:17:16.000 But Kim Fox says that you don't understand communities of color.

00:17:19.000 You don't understand these dynamics.

00:17:21.000 So at first, over the summer, we had to be told you can't break up night fights.

00:17:24.000 Remember that whole thing?

00:17:26.000 Now we can't break up gang fights, even though there's people that are being killed in the collateral damage.

00:17:33.000 There are about 1,000 fatal police shootings every single year out of 385 million police interactions.

00:17:40.000 Being a police officer is a hard job.

00:17:42.000 There are bad cops.

00:17:43.000 Of course there are bad cops.

00:17:44.000 They're also bad teachers.

00:17:45.000 It's bad of everything.

00:17:46.000 Is the general police officer waking up trying to oppress people?

00:17:50.000 Absolutely not.

00:17:51.000 In fact, a general police officer wants to keep their community safe, wants to look after their fellow citizen and their fellow countrymen.

00:17:57.000 And the assault on police officers is intentional because police officers are what stands within this fixation on destroying the rule of law as we know it in America.

00:18:09.000 We're seeing this happen, where we have now had 400,000 people that have illegally crossed the southern border in the last 60 days.

00:18:16.000 Where the people that burned down Minneapolis, a majority of the people that did that actual violence that destroyed the small businesses in the black community, many of whom will never be tried for the crimes that they committed in Minneapolis during last summer.

00:18:29.000 But if you dare walk into the U.S. Capitol building and take a selfie, they'll put you in solitary confinement and lock you away indefinitely.

00:18:37.000 So it's not that we have the destruction of the rule of law.

00:18:40.000 It's anarcho-tyranny.

00:18:41.000 It's anarchy.

00:18:43.000 If you do something that fits a certain subset of the regime, you can do whatever you want.

00:18:48.000 But if you cross the line, then all of a sudden what?

00:18:50.000 Merrick Garland, Attorney General of the United States, came out yesterday and said that we are going to use the FBI, Department of Homeland Security, to identify the threats, the harassment, and the violence, of which I've seen none, happening at school board meetings across the country.

00:19:09.000 This is now a priority of the federal government of the United States saying that if you're a mom showing up worrying about pornographic content being taught to your kids or being worrying about critical race theory being taught to your eight-year-old, now the federal government says not so fast.

00:19:23.000 We monitor your communications.

00:19:25.000 We might track your social media activity.

00:19:27.000 And so make no mistake, there is a clampdown on certain behavior if you dare disagree with a certain subset of ideas.

00:19:35.000 And this whole kind of idea of critical race theory is a betrayal of the Western idea of the rule of law, which is this a very simple idea.

00:19:44.000 We used to teach this in our schools, which is that all human beings deserve dignity, regardless of their skin color, regardless what they look like.

00:19:54.000 All human beings are made in the image of God, that all human beings deserve dignity and equal application of the law.

00:20:04.000 And so what we've seen is that entire premise being challenged.

00:20:11.000 And so if you believe... that all human beings have dignity, then you must ask yourself the question, what is more important?

00:20:18.000 Things you can change or things you can't change.

00:20:22.000 Now, America at its best was always prioritizing human agency and action.

00:20:29.000 And at our best, we are de-emphasizing things you cannot change.

00:20:33.000 For example, you cannot change your racial complexion. 0.95

00:20:37.000 You cannot change your biological parents.

00:20:40.000 You cannot change the type of world you were born into at that very moment.

00:20:44.000 You know what you can change?

00:20:45.000 How hard you work, the type of character you have, the type of spirit and soul you want to develop.

00:20:50.000 Those things take a lot of work.

00:20:52.000 So America at its best would prioritize your own human action, not what tribe you're from, not who your parents were, not what sort of ethnic group you might be part of.

00:21:04.000 Now, this is very obvious stuff, right?

00:21:06.000 This is, all of you are saying, yeah, of course, that's true.

00:21:09.000 Everything that CRT stands for, woke industrial complex, diversity, equity, inclusion, all this stuff, stands against that.

00:21:15.000 Instead, it says, hey, what tribe are you a member of?

00:21:19.000 Because what they say is white silence as violence, that if you have white skin color, you are instantaneously or automatically, I should say, privileged.

00:21:28.000 That without you even realizing it, without even knowing it, the society was built for you and by you and because of you.

00:21:34.000 And you must sit down and shut up and take a knee so other people can advance ahead in front of you.

00:21:38.000 That is then de-emphasizing your own human action, how hard you can work, the type of person you can be, the development of your soul, the improvement of your relationship with your creator, very basic Western ideas.

00:21:50.000 And instead, it's elevating tribal politics and saying, you know what's the most important thing?

00:21:56.000 Not human agency, not choice, not whether or not you make good decisions or not, not praxeology, which is a Greek, it comes from the word praxis, we get the word practice from, which means the repetition of good choices that improve one's soul towards the good.

00:22:10.000 Instead, it's let's just be super sloppy and lazy.

00:22:10.000 No, no, no.

00:22:14.000 Let's put the people that look like this over here, the people that look like that over there, to try to right the wrong of generations and societies past. 0.95

00:22:21.000 And what's so disappointing about this entire thing is how many people that I thought would stand against it are going for it.

00:22:28.000 Now, let me be very clear.

00:22:29.000 This ideology, albeit sinister, albeit all these different things that I've gone through, I do not think a majority of Americans deep down agree with this.

00:22:37.000 I don't.

00:22:38.000 I think that there is a majority consensus that organizing people by skin color by prioritizing not your actions, not your choices, not your deeds, but your ancestry and your tribe, I think most Americans generally reject that.

00:22:52.000 What I do think, though, is most Americans don't know how to push back against this.

00:22:56.000 They're afraid of the cost associated with it, which is, you're a racist. 0.99

00:22:59.000 Sit down and shut up, which is a real thing, by the way. 1.00

00:23:02.000 You could lose your job. 0.98

00:23:03.000 You could lose your friends, and CNN might say bad things about you.

00:23:06.000 It's true.

00:23:08.000 But also, I think that people are petrified and paralyzed to have a conversation on race in this country.

00:23:15.000 And so as we were trying to plan this entire tour, we said to ourselves, well, if we're not willing to go into the issue that is dominating the number one thing that all of you are living through, then what good are we at Turning Point USA?

00:23:29.000 And so here's the other question is that when we used to do these tours, and I'm happy to talk about immigration, abortion, socialism, whatever you guys want to, by the way, in the question and answer.

00:23:36.000 But I wanted to make sure that the remarks that we have here are framed around this idea that we're no longer in like an economics debate.

00:23:43.000 High taxes, low taxes, more regulation, less regulation.

00:23:46.000 I obviously have my preferences.

00:23:48.000 No, this is civilization defining stuff.

00:23:50.000 This is whether or not the mission statement of the American Project is true or untrue.

00:23:56.000 Are all men created equal, true or untrue?

00:23:58.000 That's the question in front of us.

00:23:59.000 Are all people made in the image of God?

00:24:01.000 Is skin color a necessary prerequisite to organize society? 0.90

00:24:05.000 So here's three questions that every person needs to ask when it comes to CRT, whatever you want to call it, diversity, equity, inclusion, wokeism, whatever.

00:24:12.000 Number one, is race a characteristic that you care about in judging a human being's worth or value?

00:24:19.000 The answer should be absolutely not.

00:24:22.000 Why?

00:24:22.000 Because they can't change it.

00:24:23.000 Because that is racism, which is exactly why we put that word in.

00:24:27.000 And let me be very clear for everyone that's watching at home, just to reiterate it. 0.90

00:24:30.000 If you care about people's skin color, you are a bigot and a racist for believing that.

00:24:36.000 That is racism by caring about people's skin color and focusing on it.

00:24:44.000 And you have like the kind of the pope of CRT.

00:24:49.000 You have this whole kind of like Mount Rushmore of Ibram X. Kendi and Robin DiAngelo and Taha Nisi Coates.

00:24:55.000 I'll focus on Henry Rogers, or Harry Rogers, Henry Rogers, whatever his name is, who's Ibram X. Kendi, who's come out and he says, okay, we now need segregation and discrimination today to right the wrong of segregation and discrimination yesterday.

00:25:10.000 And so this is a really important point.

00:25:13.000 I'm a Christian, and Christianity heavily influenced English common law, William Blackstone, the idea of presumption of innocence, due process, that you must be held accountable for you.

00:25:26.000 That your salvation with your creator, you must get that right.

00:25:30.000 You got to get in a relationship with your creator.

00:25:32.000 You might have to accept Jesus into your life.

00:25:36.000 That's a Christian idea.

00:25:37.000 And I'm happy to go into that if people want to ask about it.

00:25:40.000 That's not the main point of this thing, but it is true.

00:25:43.000 Which is this, which is no matter how hard your parents try, they can't save you for you.

00:25:50.000 That you must be accountable for your own actions.

00:25:53.000 Why is this important?

00:25:54.000 Because Ibram X. Kendi believes that we must now hold you accountable because you look like people that did something wrong 150 years ago.

00:26:03.000 Because you are related to them.

00:26:05.000 Because you come from that bloodline.

00:26:07.000 It is a breakdown of the Western promise, which is this, which is it doesn't matter where you come from.

00:26:13.000 Show me what you got.

00:26:15.000 That's why we are always the envy of the world.

00:26:16.000 You want to go live in a caste system?

00:26:17.000 Go to India. 0.96

00:26:18.000 It matters a lot who your parents are.

00:26:21.000 Good luck escaping that caste. 1.00

00:26:22.000 What CRT does is it implements a racial caste system into this country where all of a sudden people are paralyzed.

00:26:29.000 They say, well, maybe I've been a racist my entire life without realizing it.

00:26:33.000 Maybe I've been this terrible and awful human being.

00:26:36.000 Now, if that is true, and I always have to say this because, you know, so not everyone listens to everything I say, repetition of the soul of memory.

00:26:42.000 We have a supply and demand problem with racism in America.

00:26:45.000 There's an incredibly low, little supply and an incredible big demand to find it.

00:26:49.000 If you happen to be in the very small percentage of a racist in the country, then you got work to do.

00:26:56.000 Go get in contact with your creator quickly, read the Bible, ask for forgiveness of the people that you know.

00:27:03.000 With that being said, just because you're of a certain skin color does not automatically make you a racist.

00:27:10.000 Just because you're a white person does not mean you have to begin apologizing simply for how God made you.

00:27:17.000 And so the second question, of course, is black-only dormitories, which is the re-segregation.

00:27:21.000 Ibram X. Kendi says, okay, the way we're going to fix inequity is now go back to segregation because this kind of idea of a multiracial, multicultural society, it's actually a false promise.

00:27:33.000 And then the third thing, I've kind of got into this, is should people be punished by group?

00:27:38.000 Should you be held accountable for not your own actions, but instead what jersey you're wearing?

00:27:42.000 Is that the country we want to live in?

00:27:43.000 I think it's really disgusting, actually, if all of a sudden we're going to be a country where your jersey is your skin color, where all of a sudden we feel as if the values we share is because of the melanin content in your skin. 0.87

00:27:53.000 I honestly think that is a disservice to how incredibly unique, complex, and special every single human being is created.

00:28:03.000 And if we want to go back to tribes, which is literally a 5,000, 6,000-year regression, then with it, we will throw away the centuries of interpretation of the Bible and the Constitution that says neither slave nor Greek nor Jew.

00:28:17.000 We are all one in Jesus Christ.

00:28:19.000 We are all one in the image of God.

00:28:22.000 Where does this lead?

00:28:23.000 Countries that tend to organize themselves based on race go into civil conflict very quickly.

00:28:30.000 South Africa, Brazil.

00:28:32.000 This idea of this many different people from this many backgrounds coexisting for as long as we have is actually remarkable.

00:28:39.000 As I watched the race riots last summer, I couldn't believe that it was happening and we tolerated it. 1.00

00:28:45.000 But when I really thought about it and I kind of viewed the racial demographics in our country, which again, race means nothing to me.

00:28:51.000 I think it's an unnecessary talking point.

00:28:54.000 But if you look at the racial demographics in most countries, they'll have those race riots every month.

00:29:00.000 Why?

00:29:01.000 It's because if absent the American Trinity, in God We Trust, Liberty, and E Polaribus Unum, then all of a sudden, you are going to get into tribes really quickly.

00:29:11.000 That if all of a sudden you remove the core promises of America, what are you going to replace it with?

00:29:16.000 There's not that many other things you can think of.

00:29:18.000 We've basically experimented with every type of governmental model you can imagine.

00:29:22.000 And I hate to be too binary about this, but there's only two ways you can organize every single government in the history of the planet.

00:29:27.000 Do you emphasize speech in how you set up the government or force?

00:29:32.000 It's that simple.

00:29:32.000 Soviet Union, force.

00:29:34.000 Communist China, force. 0.90

00:29:35.000 Venezuela, force.

00:29:37.000 America was supposed to be speech, meaning, tell me your idea, and then I'll give you power. 0.98

00:29:43.000 You got to run for office.

00:29:44.000 You got to give a speech.

00:29:45.000 You got to tell people what you're going to do.

00:29:49.000 The capacity to speak and to reason is what makes us human beings.

00:29:54.000 Aristotle said we are the speaking beings, which means that without speech, then we're nothing more than just warring conflict in tribes.

00:30:02.000 And this idea of reason is a uniquely Western idea.

00:30:06.000 And so why are we all here?

00:30:07.000 And to kind of summarize it before we get to questions, is 70 miles down the street, all of that changed.

00:30:14.000 And it changed for a variety of different reasons.

00:30:16.000 Number one, the other side was ready.

00:30:18.000 They were prepared to push all of these ideas.

00:30:20.000 CRT did not start with George Floyd.

00:30:21.000 It's been in the school system for a long time.

00:30:23.000 And they went all in with a full kind of push at the moment that they saw fit.

00:30:28.000 But more importantly, we were afraid as conservatives and unequipped to be able to launch a countermove by what we saw happening in front of us.

00:30:37.000 I think that's changing.

00:30:39.000 I think one of the reasons why so many people are here tonight and engaging and understanding is they say, whoa, okay, I might not like what I saw in the video, but all of a sudden you're now saying I have to totally change the way I view this issue altogether, that I have to read this book, How to Be an Anti-Racist, and I'm white fragile, according to Robin DiAngelo, the multi-million dollar white author that tells you that you're a fragile white person.

00:31:01.000 Like that's like the new standard for philosophical exploration in our country.

00:31:06.000 And we shouldn't put up with it, is what I'm telling you tonight, is that when bigotry enters the American discourse, we should not tolerate it.

00:31:15.000 We should say, you know what?

00:31:16.000 No, CRT is nothing more than a new manifestation of what leads us to eugenics, leads us to categorizing people based on skin color.

00:31:24.000 And there is no good way this ends.

00:31:26.000 Period.

00:31:27.000 That I remember the America that I grew up in 10 years ago.

00:31:31.000 That when people focused on this stuff, they would be called bigots and they'd be called racists.

00:31:38.000 And because we've sent so many wonderful people to college, excluding everyone in these wonderful yellow shirts in high school, is that a major part of our population have been propagandized and indoctrinated to believe that maybe we are systemically racist.

00:31:51.000 Maybe we are racist to the bone.

00:31:53.000 Maybe the founding of our country was wrong since the very beginning.

00:31:57.000 Happy to go into that if that interests anybody tonight.

00:32:00.000 I did an extensive overview on that yesterday.

00:32:03.000 Human equality is a fundamental value and American idea.

00:32:09.000 Now, human equality does not mean we all have the same skills.

00:32:13.000 It does not mean we have all the same outcomes.

00:32:16.000 Some people are going to be smarter.

00:32:17.000 Some people are going to be faster.

00:32:18.000 Some people are going to be taller.

00:32:19.000 What is human equality?

00:32:22.000 That we're all the same sort of thing.

00:32:24.000 That we're all speaking beings.

00:32:25.000 We're mind, body, spirit, and soul.

00:32:28.000 Pick word, whatever word you want.

00:32:30.000 I prefer soul.

00:32:31.000 Mind, body, and soul.

00:32:32.000 That we deserve dignity and due process, the rule of law.

00:32:36.000 And if you want to organize society, let's just say you get to a blank canvas.

00:32:40.000 Do you want to all of a sudden say, hey, I want to try to design society in a way that empowers people and tries to make them better human beings or disempowers them and keeps them in corners endlessly apologizing by the time they're 18 years old saying I'm actually a terrible, bigoted, awful, racist, colonialist, imperialist, misogynistic, bigoted person, not because of something I did, but because of how my parents looked.

00:33:00.000 That's where we're going.

00:33:02.000 Where kids have to needlessly apologize, not because they did something wrong, but because they were born into a certain caste and tribe.

00:33:08.000 We're not going to stand for that anymore.

00:33:10.000 And so I believe, regardless of your political affiliation, regardless of your political affiliation, I really don't care.

00:33:19.000 I'm sure there's people of all different political stripes here.

00:33:21.000 This actually needs to be something where we look back in our history and there might have been like a short gasp of this ideology and it was repudiated by people of all different political stripes and colors.

00:33:31.000 Obviously, I'm conservative.

00:33:32.000 Obviously, I believe in the Constitution and American exceptions and all this.

00:33:35.000 But if you even have like a remnant of admiration for America, then this should disgust you.

00:33:43.000 Don't try to all of a sudden get in your right left side and be like, oh, this is too much of a right-wing critique of CRT.

00:33:49.000 Like, what did I exactly say in the last 20 minutes, besides like all human beings are made in the image of God, human equality, speech is good, and we should treat people based on what they do, not what they look like, is exactly a right-wing critique of American society.

00:34:02.000 The fact that anyone might even think that all of a sudden goes to show the exact reason why this is being implemented, which is this, which is power is most effectively, is most effectively assumed when tribes are at war.

00:34:20.000 If we're getting along and we're living in harmony, well, I mean, there'll obviously always be some form of conflict.

00:34:26.000 We're not trying to look at each other's skin color.

00:34:28.000 What's your white privilege card and do a privilege walk and all this?

00:34:31.000 All of a sudden, the people in charge, they actually aren't given as big of a license to dominate and control your life.

00:34:38.000 A country that respects each other, understanding the mind, body, and soul relationship, and kids, that is a preference, all of a sudden makes tyrants far less powerful.

00:34:50.000 Aristotle had this beautiful thing in the fifth book of the politics where he said, tyrants aim to make citizens unfamiliar to one another.

00:34:59.000 They try to create distance between neighbors.

00:35:02.000 They try to make countrymen distrustful of the people near them.

00:35:06.000 Tyrants try to sow discord, chaos, and confusion.

00:35:11.000 And when that happens, they're able to sweep into total control of a nation.

00:35:16.000 And that was 2,500 years ago that he wrote that.

00:35:19.000 It's just as true as it is today.

00:35:21.000 People say, how do we stop tyranny?

00:35:23.000 How do we stop the power grab?

00:35:25.000 Happy to go through all of that.

00:35:26.000 But their gateway to making you live in a Huxleyan or Orwellian nightmare is to have every single person screaming about skin color all day long, worrying as if that thing actually matters while they plunder our society, destroy the American middle class, lie to us on television, force vaccines on our children, keep us masked up and obedient. 0.97

00:35:50.000 They keep our borders wide open, but they want you distracted with this smokescreen grenade that they've thrown at us as if the most important thing is something you can't change.

00:35:59.000 Don't take the bait.

00:36:01.000 We're here tonight to say, okay, we can have our differences on every sort of issue.

00:36:03.000 You know where I stand on all of them.

00:36:04.000 Happy to go through it.

00:36:05.000 But if we want this American civilization to continue, which is a gift from God, it is a gift from God that we get to live in this country, then we must reject and repudiate this insidious ideology.

00:36:16.000 Okay, let's do some questions, everybody, and we're about to have some fun.

00:36:19.000 So you can line up here for some questions, and don't be shy, and we'll stay until they kick me up.

00:36:27.000 And so I also want to thank our amazing Turning Point USA students.

00:36:30.000 Give it up for them.

00:36:31.000 They did an amazing job, help organize this.

00:36:34.000 Phenomenal.

00:36:39.000 Question lines over there.

00:36:40.000 We'll get that going.

00:36:42.000 And I also want to just say for all of you guys watching on the live stream, these events are so hard to plan.

00:36:49.000 And all of you to understand with the virus measures, the lockdown stuff, navigating these things, obviously our preference would be doing this on campus.

00:36:58.000 But the entrepreneurship, the adaptation, the ability to kind of change on their feet, I've been so proud of our Turning Point USA students and staff not to take campuses saying, oh, we're not doing events.

00:37:12.000 And like, we very well could have not done this.

00:37:14.000 These issues and these ideas and the people we're impacting is far too important to all of a sudden take some administrator trying to shut us down as a reason not to do our tour.

00:37:24.000 So I just want to say it's an amazing, amazing thing.

00:37:27.000 Okay.

00:37:31.000 All right.

00:37:31.000 We will go to the first question.

00:37:34.000 If you disagree, you're allowed to cut in line.

00:37:34.000 I always say this.

00:37:37.000 And if someone says something outrageous, don't laugh at them.

00:37:41.000 Don't mock them.

00:37:42.000 Don't ridicule them.

00:37:43.000 This is obviously a conservative audience.

00:37:44.000 So if a liberal is speaking, give them the respect that they never give to us to allow their ideas to be spoken.

00:37:51.000 Okay?

00:37:58.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:37:59.000 I have kind of a two-part question for you.

00:38:01.000 So first, you talked about people like Ibram, who actually came to speak at my college campus.

00:38:06.000 That's hilarious.

00:38:07.000 Yeah.

00:38:08.000 So what advice would you give to students like us who disagree with this, who want to fight back, but are fought every way?

00:38:15.000 We're fought in every corner, every step of the way.

00:38:17.000 Hard getting, we're trying to get a turning point on campus and not happening.

00:38:20.000 Trying to take all these steps to fight back, and they're just fighting us at every step.

00:38:23.000 And then part two of the question is, God willing, if I have kids one day, what do we do if it keeps going this way?

00:38:30.000 I mean, homeschooling is always an option, but if we'd like to send them to school, what are your thoughts on that?

00:38:35.000 What school do you go to?

00:38:36.000 The University of St. Thomas in St. Paul.

00:38:38.000 Okay.

00:38:39.000 Well, first of all, boo, right?

00:38:44.000 Thank you for being here, by the way.

00:38:46.000 So I want to just open up by first saying, I don't have any easy answers when you experience oppositions.

00:38:58.000 For the young people in the room, raise your hand if you've been treated differently or graded differently because of your political affiliation or your ideas.

00:39:05.000 Yeah, basically, every single young person's hand goes up.

00:39:08.000 Now, for adult, for some of the parents and grandparents, they're shocked and aghast that we would live in that kind of country.

00:39:15.000 Yeah, we do.

00:39:15.000 You're going to pay a price if you disagree with the status quo.

00:39:20.000 The best thing you can do is you have to make a decision and you have to make a choice of whether or not this sort of endeavor, which will come with opposition, it will come with backlash, it will come with mockery and ridicule against you, is worth it.

00:39:38.000 Here's the two things I can promise every single turning point USA student.

00:39:42.000 Well, first, you're going to all pay a price.

00:39:44.000 No one likes hearing that, right?

00:39:45.000 You're all going to lose friends, but you'll make new ones.

00:39:47.000 You're all going to get kicked out of fraternities and sororities.

00:39:50.000 Who cares about that stuff anyway?

00:39:51.000 Your grades will be different.

00:39:52.000 I don't really think grades matter that much, but maybe they do to you.

00:39:55.000 But whatever.

00:39:56.000 I think character matters.

00:39:57.000 I would rather have courageous C students than weak A students.

00:40:03.000 And so, I'm not saying you can't be both.

00:40:06.000 I'm not saying you can't be a courageous A student, but if I was forced to choose, okay?

00:40:11.000 But here's the thing I can promise you.

00:40:14.000 And I could tell you're frustrated.

00:40:16.000 You're getting your teeth kicked in.

00:40:17.000 You get to be something that most people in America wish you could be. 0.71

00:40:21.000 The same person in public that you are in private.

00:40:24.000 You do not have to pretend to be somebody that you're not.

00:40:28.000 So you do not have to leave your apartment and go put on a camouflage and a disguise and go be like a woke person when you go to go to work.

00:40:35.000 No, you'll be like, oh, this is what I believe and why I believe it.

00:40:37.000 Don't want to hire me, fine, I'll figure it out.

00:40:39.000 If you want to call me these names, fine, I'll figure it out.

00:40:41.000 You act that way, you take almost all their power away.

00:40:45.000 We have given them this kind of societal and cultural power by allowing them to all of a sudden tell us what is socially acceptable, to allow us to, what sort of ideas are.

00:40:55.000 And I'm not saying it's easy, because there's somebody in this audience right now that I know is getting a pit in their stomach.

00:41:00.000 Like, man, Charlie, it's easy for you to say, I'm a nurse at a hospital.

00:41:04.000 I'm about to be fired because I'm getting forced to get a vaccine.

00:41:07.000 If I dare say anything, I will tyrannically and autocratically be fired almost instantaneously.

00:41:13.000 Easy for you to get up on stage and say that.

00:41:15.000 It's not easy for me to say it.

00:41:16.000 It's hard because I know the significance of the words that I'm saying.

00:41:19.000 I know that there will be a price and a consequence.

00:41:22.000 We do not do hopium at Turning Point USA.

00:41:24.000 You know what that is?

00:41:25.000 Hopeful things, opium, feels good.

00:41:27.000 It's actually really bad for you.

00:41:29.000 A lot of people will go on tour and they'll say this.

00:41:31.000 Just stand for your beliefs and your life will get infinitely better instantaneously. 1.00

00:41:34.000 That's garbage. 1.00

00:41:34.000 That's lying to you. 1.00

00:41:35.000 No, it actually might be really awful for the first six months, first year, two years, but you'll become stronger.

00:41:42.000 You'll develop the metaphorical muscles to deal with this.

00:41:45.000 A year from now, two years from now, three years from now, they won't be able to take anything from you.

00:41:49.000 You will be a properly sold individual, which is what?

00:41:53.000 Free.

00:41:54.000 You'll be free.

00:41:55.000 Free from what they can call you.

00:41:57.000 Free from what they can throw at you.

00:42:00.000 And so, heck yeah, man.

00:42:04.000 You're going to get all sorts of different backlash and ridicule.

00:42:07.000 Don't give up.

00:42:09.000 Handle yourself correctly, respectfully.

00:42:11.000 Understand the position of others.

00:42:13.000 Don't give them a reason to try to cancel you or silence you.

00:42:17.000 Do not do things for the sake of provoking.

00:42:21.000 But, you know, people say, Charlie, you're always trying to provoke.

00:42:23.000 That's not true.

00:42:24.000 I say things that are true.

00:42:25.000 And if it provokes people, that's their problem, not mine.

00:42:28.000 Okay?

00:42:28.000 So my intent is to say things that are true.

00:42:30.000 So let me just say this.

00:42:32.000 People like you are why we started Turning Point USA.

00:42:34.000 Don't give up.

00:42:35.000 Don't give in.

00:42:35.000 We've heard all the stories.

00:42:36.000 And here's the other thing.

00:42:38.000 Resist the temptation, because it's there, even for me, to want to feel sorry for yourself.

00:42:43.000 Wanting to feel sorry for yourself is the opposite of living a magnanimous life.

00:42:50.000 A magnanimous man is one who's deliberate in its choices.

00:42:53.000 It's a properly sold person.

00:42:56.000 A magnanimous man is not anxious when they open an envelope or an email.

00:43:01.000 I'm not that person sometimes.

00:43:03.000 Sometimes you get a text message.

00:43:04.000 You're like, oh, my goodness, what is this?

00:43:06.000 A magnanimous man knows who they are and they know their place in the world and no one can take it away from them.

00:43:11.000 Keep fighting.

00:43:11.000 God bless you.

00:43:18.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:43:19.000 Oh, sorry.

00:43:20.000 Hi, Charlotte.

00:43:21.000 So I just had, I listened close to your speech.

00:43:24.000 It was very good.

00:43:29.000 All right, so.

00:43:33.000 It's a very detailed speech.

00:43:35.000 I basically had a two-part question for you.

00:43:38.000 After listening to your speech, I wondered, did you think that slavery and ensuing Jim Crow laws had a lasting impact on the black community in the United States?

00:43:48.000 Some, and that's a good question.

00:43:50.000 So if you correlate all the impact of Jim Crow and slavery, I would say that you could generously say 26% single motherhood in the black community in the 1960s.

00:44:00.000 So about 26% of all black babies born in the 1950s and 1960s were born to a single mother.

00:44:07.000 Now it's 77%.

00:44:09.000 So I would ask you, why did it jump 50 points, 50%, since the Civil Rights Act as America got significantly less racist?

00:44:20.000 So that's fine.

00:44:22.000 I don't know why it jumped.

00:44:23.000 That who cares?

00:44:25.000 It wasn't slavery or Jim Crow.

00:44:26.000 It was something else.

00:44:28.000 So the only lasting impact that slavery had on the U.S. was that less black families had fathers?

00:44:35.000 No, not necessarily, but have you ever known anyone that's owned a slave?

00:44:40.000 No, but I know a few presidents who did.

00:44:42.000 You know them personally?

00:44:47.000 So you don't know anyone that was ever a slave?

00:44:50.000 Well, no, because...

00:45:01.000 So, okay, I don't know anyone who was a slave.

00:45:07.000 So it had no impact?

00:45:08.000 No, it had some impact.

00:45:10.000 The question is, did it have an impact that is measurable and significant enough now in 2021, where we saw a key metric that influenced the livelihood of the black community, like single motherhood, right?

00:45:23.000 That is America got less racist, all of a sudden now 77% of black babies are born without a father, where before it was 26%.

00:45:31.000 And I suppose the question is this, because this is the question about systemic racism, right?

00:45:36.000 What law that is in practice today actively discriminates against black people?

00:45:43.000 So here's what I would say to that.

00:45:48.000 The idea of capitalism and America, like you said, is it doesn't matter who you are, show me what you got, is fresh start.

00:45:56.000 So what would happen if you had like 150 years in a country for your family to build wealth, to own a house, to have a job, to get college education for your kids, to build generational wealth?

00:46:12.000 And then you took another family who didn't have the opportunity to do any of that for 150 years and then set them off on the same even starting point.

00:46:25.000 Is that really an even starting point?

00:46:27.000 And would that not result in some kind of systemic disadvantage?

00:46:31.000 So the black middle class was the fastest growing demographic in the 1940s and 1950s until the Great Society Act and that intervention.

00:46:40.000 It's very tempting to do what you're doing.

00:46:43.000 And I'm not faulting you for it because you've probably been propagandized to believe it.

00:46:47.000 And that's okay, because I think you're actually a victim in this case because you've been misled to want to believe that things you never lived under, never understood, and that I think you are partially seeing had a disproportionate impact in the world that you're living in today.

00:47:01.000 So for example, if that were to be true, then first generation immigrants would not be able to quickly be able to make good choices and move up the ladder in this country, which I think we have some first generation immigrants here tonight. 0.98

00:47:13.000 Now, Let me say this, that this idea that America is systemically racist to the core would also be quickly debunked by the fact that more blacks have legally immigrated to America since the 1980s than ever were here brought as slaves.

00:47:31.000 Over 2 million blacks from the Caribbean and from Nigeria and from Western Africa have come here to America.

00:47:38.000 So the question is, why is it that in every statistic that you could probably rattle off, are black people doing worse than white people?

00:47:45.000 What is it?

00:47:45.000 Well, I would point to the fact that fathers are not in the home, because it was 26% of black females in the 1960s were single mothers.

00:47:54.000 Now it's 77%.

00:47:56.000 If you look at the Brookings Institution, a liberal think tank, there are three things you need to do to stay out of poverty in America.

00:48:02.000 Number one, graduate high school.

00:48:05.000 Well, because of public sector unions and the dominance of our government schools, that's harder than ever in far too many communities.

00:48:12.000 Not just black communities, not just Hispanic communities.

00:48:14.000 The second thing, get a job, any job.

00:48:16.000 And the third thing is, obviously, not to commit crimes, but to try to get married before you have children. 0.97

00:48:24.000 And so some of what I believe has contributed to the downfall of some of these communities has nothing to do with white people with the neck on black people. 0.91

00:48:33.000 Instead, it's the following. 0.89

00:48:34.000 Fathers no longer being in the home, the rise of sexual anarchy that came in post-1960s liberalism that removed this idea of sex being confined to a marital relationship to be gratuitous.

00:48:47.000 And everywhere, all of a sudden you've seen an increase in the birth, in not just the birth rate, but the single motherhood rate and abortion alongside of it.

00:48:53.000 I would just ask this question, I'm just curious.

00:48:56.000 How much do you think outputs are based on people's decisions, based on the advantages they're born into?

00:49:05.000 I mean, as someone who's taken introduction to sociology, your life is greatly influenced by what the conditions are born into.

00:49:16.000 But I promise this will be the last thing.

00:49:18.000 Just you say there's less fathers in the home of many black families, and that's the issue.

00:49:24.000 So what do you think is keeping fathers out of the home in those?

00:49:28.000 Great question.

00:49:29.000 Do you think it could be over-policing and police arresting, like discretionary?

00:49:35.000 You went through this, everybody.

00:49:37.000 Do you think it could be law enforcement disproportionately enforcing laws in black neighborhoods and arresting more black males than any other demographic?

00:49:47.000 So blacks are actually under-arrested and under-policed per the percentage of crimes they commit. 1.00

00:49:52.000 We talked about some of those numbers. 0.96

00:49:53.000 But let me tell you one thing in particular.

00:49:56.000 In the Great Society Act, we decided as a civilization to subsidize single motherhood. 0.91

00:50:01.000 In the 1960s, we told black women you no longer need to be married to have children.

00:50:06.000 You can get married to the government.

00:50:08.000 And we saw a dramatic escalation and increase of the deterioration of the nuclear family and a replacement of that of the nanny state and the welfare state. 0.88

00:50:18.000 And I would say this, that every single activist group that steps up that talks about systemic racism and oppression, if you look at the data, purely the data, if there is a movement to put black fathers back in the home and to try and challenge the sexual anarchy that came in the post-1960s and had a more prudent and pious view of sexual relations in America, 0.75

00:50:39.000 which is a very unpopular view, by the way, for most Americans, but it's true that before the 1960s, sexual relations were, at least culturally, supposed to always be confined to marital relationships.

00:50:50.000 The more gratuitous that we have been in trying to catalog it in media and in pop culture and in Hollywood and yes in schools, then all of a sudden you have seen people say, well, why do I need to get married for that?

00:51:02.000 Marriage is the bedrock institution and strong families create strong communities which create strong civilizations.

00:51:08.000 This is why immigrant communities that have come to America and first-generation immigrants, they're able to move so quickly up the socioeconomic ladder because they might not have wealth, they might not have big bank accounts, they might not own a lot of land, but they have the thing they know that will keep them together, which is a family that will not be broken up at any means necessary.

00:51:27.000 I'll finally say this: let me just say this.

00:51:31.000 No, I want to thank you for coming because I took courage you to ask that question.

00:51:35.000 I'm just going to ask you to do one thing. 0.78

00:51:36.000 Please forget everything you learn in Introduction to Sociology 101, because it was likely all garbage.

00:51:41.000 So, thank you so much.

00:51:49.000 If anyone disagrees, feel free to hop in line and, you know, maybe you disagree and you're working the events, who knows?

00:51:56.000 No, I don't.

00:51:56.000 Okay, hi.

00:51:58.000 Okay, so I know you feel strongly about a lot of political issues.

00:52:02.000 I just want to know what one do you feel the most strong about or like passionate about most strongly about like that.

00:52:09.000 Most yeah, I mean, there's a lot, but if you really want to get me animated, um, yeah, um, is the million abortions that we accept in our country every single year.

00:52:44.000 So, that one, that one definitely gets us all animated.

00:52:49.000 If you can't get basic things right, then I don't expect us to start to get the more complicated things correct.

00:52:57.000 Life begins at conception.

00:52:58.000 It shouldn't be hard to say that.

00:53:02.000 I will go back to what I said earlier, which is that when all of a sudden a society accepts that sexual relations can be normalized outside of marriage, then all of a sudden you need to institute new forms of birth control and pleasure control, which is abortion.

00:53:19.000 Million abortions a year.

00:53:21.000 And that's 3,000 a day to give you an idea of how many abortions happen in our country every single year. 0.99

00:53:27.000 And so it also disproportionately hurts black communities.

00:53:31.000 And to kind of answer that previous question before, this is a tough topic to talk about because even some conservatives kind of want to participate in kind of some of the cult, the slow cultural landslide.

00:53:43.000 And I think we have to be very clear of what is the ideal.

00:53:46.000 What is the law of nature and nature's God, as Thomas Jefferson said?

00:53:50.000 And I'm not here to proselytize a certain religious belief.

00:53:53.000 I obviously have my own.

00:53:54.000 Let's talk about what Thomas Jefferson said in the Declaration of Independence.

00:53:57.000 What is the law of nature and nature's God?

00:53:58.000 Here's a law of nature.

00:53:59.000 Out-of-wedlock children is not good for anyone.

00:54:03.000 It's not good for the parent.

00:54:04.000 It's not good for the kid.

00:54:06.000 It's not good for society.

00:54:07.000 It's not good for the civilization.

00:54:09.000 It's not good for the future of the country.

00:54:10.000 That there is an ideal.

00:54:12.000 That the ideal should be a man and a woman raising that child, pouring into them.

00:54:17.000 That a daughter needs to see the type of woman she wants to Become.

00:54:21.000 She also wants to see the type of man she one day wants to marry.

00:54:24.000 The man needs to see the type of woman that one day he wants to court and marry, and then maybe the man he wants to become. 0.97

00:54:29.000 You remove one of those elements.

00:54:31.000 It's not to say that it's impossible.

00:54:33.000 There are some phenomenal single mothers out there that have been mistreated by weak men, that have been lied to by degenerate men, quite honestly, and I'm happy to get into that endlessly, that step up and raise amazing children.

00:54:49.000 But the statistics show it itself.

00:54:51.000 And I wanted to say this to the prior question I forgot, which is that if you look at the data, the data is very clear, which is that a black child raised by a mother and a father is far more likely to take all the different statistics that you would consider to be a success than a white child that is just raised by a single mother.

00:55:12.000 That right there is the ultimate social safety net, which is stronger families.

00:55:17.000 And this is obvious, but far too often, here's the thing though: is this is where I'll go a step further and feel free to disagree and we can get in line, which is that I don't think we just have to talk about it as conservatives.

00:55:28.000 I think we have to do something about it, which means that we as conservatives know that families are everything.

00:55:36.000 But far too often, we as conservatives say that.

00:55:38.000 We're like, okay, now go make good choices.

00:55:39.000 I say, wow, why don't we try to calibrate laws that actually try to defend families and make it easier to have children in our country?

00:55:46.000 They make it easier.

00:55:48.000 And now some conservatives get really nervous.

00:55:50.000 They're like, I don't know, because that's government intrusion into it.

00:55:53.000 Look, we're living in, unfortunately, a phase where government's intruding into everything.

00:55:57.000 I don't like it.

00:55:58.000 I wish we had limited government.

00:55:59.000 I wish we were living in a society where everyone was able to police their own ideas and their own actions through the pursuit of virtue.

00:56:08.000 But I've said very clearly that if we do not turn the corner on Americans having more children, then the civilization is over. 1.00

00:56:16.000 You know what the number one reason why young couples do not have children is?

00:56:19.000 Number one reason, too expensive.

00:56:20.000 It's unacceptable.

00:56:22.000 We have to start to think to ourselves: if you can't have children, then what good is corporate profits and building new weird buildings in downtown Minneapolis?

00:56:31.000 And what good is that?

00:56:33.000 I want an America where five, six, seven, eight, nine kids per family starts to have a resurgence.

00:56:38.000 I think the wealthiest people in America is not Jeff Bezos.

00:56:41.000 It's the people that have large families.

00:56:44.000 They are the wealthiest people in America.

00:56:46.000 They really are.

00:56:48.000 And that's an ideal.

00:56:51.000 And I will say this.

00:56:57.000 Too many young women make an ideal of a soulless corporate career when deep down they actually want to start a family. 1.00

00:57:04.000 Don't prolong it.

00:57:05.000 Go find someone responsible and go have a lot of kids.

00:57:07.000 Thank you.

00:57:15.000 If anyone disagrees, again, I just let it be known.

00:57:17.000 The offer stands.

00:57:18.000 Okay.

00:57:19.000 Do you want to drink a water first?

00:57:21.000 I already had one.

00:57:22.000 Okay, cool.

00:57:24.000 I've got two to three things.

00:57:27.000 First, my understanding that slavery is still allowed within our penal system as a punishment.

00:57:32.000 Is that not?

00:57:34.000 No.

00:57:34.000 How would you say slavery is allowed?

00:57:36.000 That we've enshrined it in law that it is okay to use slavery as a punishment in our penal system.

00:57:42.000 That's why they don't have to be paid minimum wage for work. 0.97

00:57:45.000 And I just like to call out, like, I know that that's not around racism or anything like that.

00:57:51.000 And it's just like calling out that we still have slavery within our system.

00:57:55.000 And that, like, I know people who have worked in that system.

00:57:57.000 I've had friends abroad who were slaves in the cotton fields in Uzbekistan.

00:58:01.000 Like, it's still going on here too.

00:58:02.000 So, so, just so I'm understanding, your argument is that we have slavery in America because people who commit crimes aren't paid a minimum wage when they go to jail.

00:58:11.000 Correct.

00:58:11.000 And I'm not saying that that's wrong.

00:58:13.000 I'm just saying that still is slavery.

00:58:15.000 No, that's not slavery.

00:58:17.000 Okay.

00:58:17.000 Why is that slavery?

00:58:18.000 Well, first of all, many of the prisoners actually want those jobs because they get a chance to actually build some income and get out of the cell and have a decent life.

00:58:24.000 Here's the thing.

00:58:25.000 I'm not really big into the prisoner sympathy thing, okay?

00:58:27.000 You commit a crime and you go to jail, you're a rapist, you're an arsonist, you're a murderer, you're a money embezzler, and all of a sudden you get a chance to put together packages.

00:58:36.000 You should be thanking us, okay? 0.99

00:58:38.000 Enough of like the swan song of like, feel sorry for me because I burned down buildings or whatever it is.

00:58:42.000 So it's not slavery, okay?

00:58:44.000 Slavery would be that you took a random citizen on the side of the street and be like, oh, you did nothing wrong.

00:58:49.000 Go put together a bunch of gizmos and gadgets.

00:58:52.000 So maybe your definition of slavery is different than mine, but.

00:58:56.000 You talked earlier about dignity of all humans.

00:58:58.000 And right there, it sounds like once you've committed a crime, your dignity is not.

00:59:01.000 This is a great question.

00:59:02.000 So when should dignity be removed?

00:59:04.000 I would argue never.

00:59:05.000 So, okay, let me ask you a question.

00:59:07.000 So Ted Kaczynski, Eric Rudolph, and Timothy McVeigh, three people that randomly bombed American society, the Unabomber, the Centennial Park Bomber, and the guy that bombed the Oklahoma City bomber, you should never take their dignity away?

00:59:19.000 Yeah, humans, as you said earlier, that like once we start defining why you should take dignity away, dignity will start.

00:59:26.000 How about like murdering people?

00:59:28.000 Okay, there's a difference between allowing people to live in society and taking away their dignity. 0.82

00:59:33.000 Right, so like Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber, should he not be in jail?

00:59:36.000 I'm not saying he shouldn't be in jail.

00:59:38.000 I'm saying that the rhetoric we use towards people shows whether we give them dignity and see dignity.

00:59:43.000 Right, like Ted Kaczynski was given dignity when he was a professor until he started mailing packages around the country and started killing random children.

00:59:50.000 Then it's like, okay, you're going to jail for the rest of your life.

00:59:52.000 That's a good use of power.

00:59:53.000 So Charlie, when should people stop giving you dignity if you're going to have lines?

00:59:57.000 Because I'm not the Unabomber.

01:00:09.000 Right?

01:00:11.000 Yeah, fair point.

01:00:12.000 And do you understand where I'm saying?

01:00:14.000 Like, if we, okay.

01:00:16.000 Cool.

01:00:19.000 If we claim that dignity is an inalienable human right, we're given by God.

01:00:25.000 Rights could be taken away.

01:00:27.000 Okay, if dignity is given by God, can it be taken away by man?

01:00:31.000 I didn't hear what you said.

01:00:31.000 Say that again.

01:00:32.000 If dignity is given by God, can it be taken away by man?

01:00:35.000 It could be taken away by the state if you make a decision to infringe on the life, liberty, or property of another.

01:00:41.000 Therefore, an emphasis on what?

01:00:43.000 Human action.

01:00:45.000 So, for example, when someone goes and shoots up a school or a church like Dylan Roof, he all of a sudden has violated the social contract and social compact of life, liberty, and property of another.

01:00:59.000 Therefore, we absolutely have a moral right and prerogative.

01:01:02.000 In fact, we have a moral obligation to say that he should not be able to live in free society alongside of us.

01:01:10.000 Absolutely agree.

01:01:12.000 That's not what I'm trying to say.

01:01:13.000 What I'm trying to say is that we should still treat these humans with dignity, even when they are not allowed to be a part of society.

01:01:22.000 I mean, again, you're not going to convince me that Dylan Roof or the Unabomber are in some sort of vast need after they decided to take the life of innocent people. 0.92

01:01:34.000 Is that the argument?

01:01:35.000 They made a decision to take the life of another.

01:01:38.000 At that point, the social contract has been violated, and we should, in fact, we have to use state power to take them out of the free and decent society.

01:01:48.000 I'm still not disagreeing with that.

01:01:51.000 So what I'm disagreeing with is how we use rhetoric in our thought patterns to view other humans and we start to objectify them.

01:01:57.000 This is a good question.

01:02:00.000 I understand what you're getting.

01:02:01.000 But let me ask you a question.

01:02:02.000 Oh, can I just finish real quick?

01:02:03.000 Yeah, fine.

01:02:05.000 Just like Nishek, not that I agree with everything. 0.95

01:02:08.000 Nietzsche?

01:02:09.000 I'm really bad with Nicole.

01:02:09.000 Yeah, I'm sorry.

01:02:10.000 It's okay.

01:02:11.000 So which book are you quoting that you learned in your intro to the famous quote?

01:02:15.000 Yeah, Beyond Good and Evil.

01:02:16.000 You know, which one is it?

01:02:17.000 Beware when fighting monsters, for you yourself become a monster.

01:02:21.000 When you gaze into the abyss, the whisk is back.

01:02:23.000 And I hear a lot of rhetoric of tribalism.

01:02:24.000 I hear a lot of undignifying of humans and objectifying of humans because of the wrongs that they've committed, which is, yeah, like I agree, they committed wrongs.

01:02:33.000 And like, how do we get beyond this tribalism, get beyond this undignifying of humans from what they do?

01:02:41.000 How about this?

01:02:42.000 Stop committing crimes and start improving your own character and your conduct.

01:02:46.000 And then all of a sudden, I think society will start to figure it out.

01:02:49.000 I guess my question is this, which is, you're worried about thought patterns and speech patterns.

01:02:55.000 We right now in our country have thousands of people that have committed first-degree murder.

01:03:01.000 They decided to take the dignity and the life of another human being.

01:03:05.000 Excuse me while I don't dedicate parts of my speech for people that decided to kill people in cold blood.

01:03:12.000 Right?

01:03:18.000 Let me put it more bluntly.

01:03:19.000 People lose any sort of compassion from the state or society or any sort of what you would consider to be the same freedom you enjoy when you start to take the life of another.

01:03:30.000 Let me ask you just one final question about this, which is, you say we shouldn't dehumanize people.

01:03:35.000 What happens when people stop to be human?

01:03:38.000 Like Adolf Hitler? 0.66

01:03:40.000 You think we should give him dignity?

01:03:42.000 I think we shouldn't stoop to the level we're trying to stop.

01:03:47.000 Okay, well, let me finish one thing. 0.97

01:03:51.000 I just want to highlight how incredibly dumb that statement was, because let me be very clear. 0.94

01:03:57.000 The rule of law and the enforcement of it is a sword that needs to be used blindly, prudently, and with wisdom. 0.98

01:04:05.000 But make no mistake, to say that, well, for example, we don't like people that take the life of another, therefore we should not take the life of somebody else.

01:04:12.000 It violates the American idea of justice, which is that you take the life and liberty of another, you're going to pay a price for that.

01:04:19.000 And I encourage you to expand.

01:04:21.000 We're going to get to the next question.

01:04:23.000 Expand beyond Nietzsche.

01:04:24.000 Just learn how to pronounce it, Nietzsche.

01:04:26.000 You know, German guy that was right about some things and wrong about a lot. 0.88

01:04:30.000 And maybe just read a little bit of Aristotle and Aquinas and Augustine, maybe a little Plato.

01:04:35.000 Then maybe you'll expand it a little bit.

01:04:36.000 Thank you for your question.

01:04:37.000 Thanks for being here tonight.

01:04:45.000 Did not expect the whole thing on the Unabomber tonight, but here we are.

01:04:52.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:04:52.000 Thanks for being here.

01:04:53.000 You just mentioned pretty early on, pretty briefly, about how a lot of the struggle with conservatives is that we don't have the same place in visual media that the left does.

01:05:03.000 I'm a media production major, specifically film, and so it's kind of disheartening to see the way that that profession has been taken over by the left and how kind of a lot of doors seem shut for people who want to use that medium to spread pro-American messages.

01:05:18.000 So I'm just wondering, what has to happen for conservatives to carve out their place in visual media?

01:05:23.000 Yeah, so first of all, this is a great question.

01:05:25.000 My wife and I were just talking about this, actually.

01:05:28.000 The way that we view art is all wrong.

01:05:32.000 I love art.

01:05:33.000 I just don't like postmodern art, obviously. 0.99

01:05:35.000 It's garbage. 0.88

01:05:36.000 And so we need to do a better job of telling people what art actually is, which is the glorification of beauty, the pursuit and commitment to wonder, and hopefully the personification of the ideal and properly sold man. 0.98

01:05:52.000 One of the reasons why conservatives tend to not like some of the people that come out of these graphic design schools is because they've been so propagandized to believe that art is what you make out of it, which is one of the most ridiculous things.

01:06:04.000 I think it was Marshall DuCamp in 1920s who signed a urnal and was kind of the beginning of kind of this postmodern artist revolution where he said, this is now art because I want it to be.

01:06:15.000 Like, no, it's not.

01:06:16.000 That's not the way, maybe you could say that.

01:06:18.000 You have a right to be completely wrong.

01:06:20.000 So, how does that tie to you?

01:06:21.000 Is that we as conservatives, we need to get back into culture.

01:06:25.000 Obviously, we hear this a lot in movies, entertainment, and art.

01:06:28.000 But let's be very clear about the type of culture that we actually want to create.

01:06:32.000 We want to create art that glorifies a pursuit and a relationship with your creator, that speaks favorably of the Western canon, of Shakespeare, of the books that built our entire civilization.

01:06:47.000 Instead, we're doing the opposite.

01:06:48.000 Instead, on Disney Plus, you can go be a graphic designer to go like tell eight-year-olds that transgenderism is normalized or whatever that crazy, right? 0.80

01:06:56.000 That's like the new thing, which I think is completely and totally evil and wrong, where they have transgender people on Disney Plus and Nickelodeon or whatever. 1.00

01:07:04.000 And so, I would just say that what needs to be done is we as conservatives need to be more embracing of people that are artists.

01:07:10.000 And this is the problem is because some people say, well, artists are inherently disruptive and destructive.

01:07:15.000 Now, there is a point and there's some truth to that, right?

01:07:18.000 But good art does not destroy things that are beautiful.

01:07:22.000 It does the opposite.

01:07:23.000 Good art portrays things that are beautiful in a way that has not been done before.

01:07:28.000 And so, this is the whole idea of architecture, right? 0.95

01:07:30.000 Don't get me started on architecture in America, which is mostly garbage, right? 0.83

01:07:33.000 It's mostly utilitarian. 0.52

01:07:35.000 You want to know the best example of American architecture going now.

01:07:38.000 Go look at a dollar general.

01:07:40.000 It looks like something out of a Soviet commissar in the 1970s, right? 0.98

01:07:43.000 Like no windows, total box, built solely and strictly for the purpose of buying crap from China. 1.00

01:07:49.000 Like, that's what a dollar general is for, right? 0.53

01:07:52.000 And instead, we used to build buildings to have some sort of transcendent connection.

01:07:58.000 So, there's two very basic things that you should know about architecture.

01:08:01.000 Number one, the circle is the perfect shape because there is no beginning, there is no end, it's an infinite symbol in its core.

01:08:07.000 Number two, all buildings should point upwards because they point upwards towards transcendent order or to God.

01:08:12.000 Very simple.

01:08:12.000 Most European medieval architecture, Gothic architecture embodies this.

01:08:16.000 People are really afraid to talk about this topic.

01:08:18.000 I don't know why, because they kind of loop it into some sort of like, you're a terrible person because you're talking about architecture.

01:08:22.000 No, I want to live in a society that is aesthetically pleasant and beautiful.

01:08:26.000 Now, to answer your question, which was totally unrelated to that, which is, I just, is this, which is if you're going to get into the graphic arts and all of this, we need to do a better job as conservatives to embrace content creators and create those people at the other side.

01:08:40.000 If you have a passion for that, please try to form yourself into trying to glorify the good and to pursue the wonderful, not trying to disrupt things that work and be like, oh, this is a piece of art because like a Campbell soup can that has like been poured over, which is like some of the stuff in the middle.

01:08:55.000 You guys ever see that video on YouTube where they had like the orange juice spill and they pretended it was a piece of art and people came by and took pictures of it?

01:09:02.000 It's like they could be like, it really wasn't, but they persuaded themselves that it was, is that art should glorify the good, not destroy the ideal.

01:09:09.000 So thank you so much.

01:09:10.000 Thanks, Charlie.

01:09:16.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:09:17.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:09:17.000 I'm a little nervous, so bear with me.

01:09:19.000 But I got kind of a two-parter.

01:09:20.000 So first, over the summer, you had a debate with a YouTuber, Vosh, on the Timpo podcast.

01:09:26.000 And you guys had a conversation about critical race theory in school and what the purpose of education should be.

01:09:32.000 And if I believe, if I remember correctly, you said something along the lines of the purpose of education should be to kind of breed gratefulness for being in an awesome, amazing country.

01:09:42.000 Could you elaborate on that?

01:09:44.000 That's a great question.

01:09:45.000 Thank you for asking it.

01:09:46.000 So education comes from a Latin word, which means to lead forth.

01:09:51.000 It literally comes out of Socrates' allegory of the cave, well, Plato's allegory of the cave, as told by Socrates, of leading forth out of darkness into light.

01:10:00.000 So there's this debate right now of what is education, right?

01:10:03.000 Should education be kind of a buffet line where you present students with all the different options they kind of choose for themselves?

01:10:10.000 Or should education be hopefully a commitment to things that are objectively true and good and beautiful and leading young people towards what is the beginning of philosophy, which is wonder.

01:10:21.000 Like, wow, there's a world so big outside of things that I'm just beginning to understand, and I know so little of it, but I want to go in the pursuit and the journey of maybe getting closer to it.

01:10:31.000 So those are two different types of definitions, right?

01:10:33.000 So one form of an educational definition is, you know what?

01:10:36.000 We are going to try to sample every single ideology and kids and students choose for themselves.

01:10:41.000 I think that's a mistake.

01:10:43.000 Now, the downside is if you get really, really bad teachers, all of a sudden they're going to use that and they're going to be like, oh, well, we know Marxism is better than that.

01:10:50.000 So at least we'd prefer the buffet line over serving, you know, breadlines of the equivalent of Marxism.

01:10:54.000 Whereas in its ideal, though, in the classical sense, people that are teachers, people that want to lead forth, they need to be willing to make absolute objective claims in three categories, in ethics, in metaphysics, and in politics.

01:11:09.000 That's not political parties, but in certain political systems.

01:11:12.000 And so the correct and the ideal view of education should be that.

01:11:16.000 Is it?

01:11:16.000 It's so far from that, it's hard to believe.

01:11:18.000 Anyone here classically educated, you kind of know what I believe here.

01:11:21.000 Yeah.

01:11:21.000 And you would know that it's not actually imposing those ideas.

01:11:25.000 It's teaching the fundamentals of Greek, of Latin, and Hebrew, reading ancient and great books, and getting closer towards that hopeful end conclusion of a better citizen.

01:11:34.000 And so people say, Charlie, what does a properly educated man look like?

01:11:39.000 A magnanimous man, someone that has character.

01:11:42.000 Now, character comes from a Greek word, which means imprint or tattoo.

01:11:47.000 It's etched within you.

01:11:49.000 A properly sold man with character is like the Grand Canyon, where good luck undoing that.

01:11:58.000 Good luck trying to change that.

01:11:59.000 That's what education should be.

01:12:01.000 A properly sold man is like the Grand Canyon.

01:12:03.000 Look at it, you're impressed.

01:12:04.000 No matter how much rain, storm, or opposition happens, that stays in put.

01:12:11.000 In fact, education is like the opposite of it.

01:12:14.000 It's like a plate of spaghetti.

01:12:15.000 It changes as you want to.

01:12:16.000 There's no form of it.

01:12:17.000 Does that answer your question?

01:12:18.000 Or is that beg another one?

01:12:20.000 Kind of, because I just feel like, can you make some look closer?

01:12:23.000 Yeah.

01:12:24.000 Because I feel like I do agree with some of the things you said about education should be about objective truth and things like that.

01:12:31.000 Although I don't think necessarily ethics has like an objective morality to it all the time.

01:12:36.000 But I just, the root of your argument with Vosh was kind of, he was saying how you were arguing that the purpose of school shouldn't be to breed like mini activists.

01:12:48.000 That is true.

01:12:48.000 So from that, I kind of get the idea of a whitewashing history a little bit in order to not like breed activism when in reality I don't think education should like ascribe a morality to our country.

01:13:00.000 It should kind of just be like, like you said, objective truth, history, and then they kind of will make out of it what they got.

01:13:07.000 Yeah.

01:13:08.000 So I would never support whitewashing anything, obviously.

01:13:11.000 I think that if you fairly and readly, you know, read the founders as they are, you'll realize these were incredible men, that they were born into a world that they did not create, that by the time that they were exiting the world, slavery was on its way out, that the first ever anti-slavery convention was hosted by Benjamin Franklin in Philadelphia in 1775.

01:13:30.000 I could go on and on and on.

01:13:32.000 But I think a proper view of history using original texts, actual quotes, and going into the actual context of the time, I think actually creates a sense of pride and a sense of gratitude for living in that nation.

01:13:44.000 So happy to dive into that further.

01:13:46.000 I don't think we're going to explore that much more because I know we're low on time.

01:13:49.000 But I'll say this final thing, is that this is where we'll have clarity, but not agreement on this one issue.

01:13:54.000 I believe there is an objective ethical code.

01:13:58.000 I believe that there is an objective ethical code of how we treat people that are less powerful than us, of a proper way to organize society, of what the highest form of existence for a human being should be.

01:14:10.000 I think one of the great roadmaps, in addition to the Bible, which is the greatest roadmap, but one of the roadmaps that isn't taught is Aristotle's ethics, of what does a properly sold man look like?

01:14:18.000 Courage, contemplation, justice, friendship, all these things that need to be wrestled with and asked the question about.

01:14:25.000 I think that if we say that there's no such thing as objective morality, then we're in nothing more than a power dynamic, which some people in control of our country actually believe.

01:14:32.000 But thank you so much for being here tonight.

01:14:34.000 Appreciate it.

01:14:37.000 Good evening, Mr. Kirk.

01:14:38.000 How are you?

01:14:39.000 Great.

01:14:40.000 Great.

01:14:40.000 I just want to say thank you for coming first.

01:14:42.000 And to those of you who disagreed with Charlie, thank you very much for coming.

01:14:46.000 It's very admirable.

01:14:48.000 I had the opportunity to go to YAFCON this past summer, and I got to ask the Honorable Kevin Brady this question.

01:14:53.000 I think it's really important now more so than ever, especially with the infrastructure talks going on in Congress at the moment.

01:14:59.000 How do we get young Americans to care more about taxes than race? 0.99

01:15:05.000 That's a great question.

01:15:07.000 You might not like my answer.

01:15:08.000 Yeah, go ahead.

01:15:09.000 Kevin Brady actually refused to answer.

01:15:12.000 He flipped it back on me.

01:15:14.000 Well, man, I'm going to answer it, so that's fine.

01:15:16.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm not a politician, nor do I want to be, so I actually answer questions and say things that are true, regardless of what CNN says.

01:15:23.000 Yeah, I mean, well, first of all, just kind of like, obviously they should care almost nothing about race.

01:15:29.000 But I will kind of say, because Kevin Brady's probably the wrong person or the perfect person to answer this question, I think he's way too fixated on taxes, to be perfectly honest.

01:15:38.000 I think tax policy is not even close to the most important thing happening to our country, like not even close.

01:15:43.000 We have a generation that doesn't share values.

01:15:45.000 We have immigration policy that's intentionally harming us, the destruction of the American family, opioid epidemic, sexual anarchy. 0.98

01:15:52.000 Like if you were to say like this big trade-off, again, I don't like paying taxes.

01:15:56.000 I pay way too much in taxes.

01:15:57.000 You do too.

01:15:57.000 Taxes should be lower.

01:15:59.000 But the kind of pathological fixation that certain Republicans and conservatives have on like lowering corporate tax rates when it's like, wait a second, divorces are going up, church attendance is going down, like our morality is being put in question and like your whole thing is like lowering corporate taxes is, I think, kind of low on the totem pole of actual like society bearing futures.

01:16:18.000 And don't get me wrong, I'm all for free markets and lower taxes.

01:16:21.000 But here's how I'll answer your question, which might not how you might expect it, which is we should care less about taxes.

01:16:27.000 Taxes should we should care more about race. 0.99

01:16:29.000 Here's what we should care more about.

01:16:30.000 We should care more about the nation, our fellow countrymen, our shared story, our history, and also a very simple question, which is this.

01:16:38.000 What kind of society do you want to live in?

01:16:39.000 Do you want to live in a society with super low taxes where no one speaks the same language, we all have a different interpretation of history, and we're kind of like this Singaporean colony?

01:16:47.000 Or do you want to live in a country where all of a sudden families are getting back together, children are starting to be had again, where all of a sudden we are turning the corner away from some of the slippage morally I think we're having in our country.

01:16:58.000 Hopefully with immigration that prioritizes our fellow countrymen.

01:17:01.000 Do you have a short follow-up?

01:17:02.000 Okay.

01:17:03.000 Thank you for that question, though.

01:17:04.000 Appreciate it.

01:17:05.000 So.

01:17:10.000 So I want to thank our amazing attorney Boyne Jose students.

01:17:12.000 Let me just kind of summarize all this together and thank you for the disagreements, by the way.

01:17:16.000 I appreciate it.

01:17:16.000 And that's courage.

01:17:18.000 It really is.

01:17:18.000 And thank you guys for being respectful of all that.

01:17:20.000 It's very nice.

01:17:21.000 And so a couple things in closing.

01:17:24.000 Number one, I want to reiterate something I said earlier.

01:17:27.000 If every single person commits themselves to being the same in public that you are in private, all of a sudden the number one form of censorship that has been occurring in America, which is self-censorship, starts to go away.

01:17:41.000 The number one form of censorship is you shutting up you or us shutting up us.

01:17:45.000 I do it too.

01:17:46.000 When I get into a family gathering, sometimes I'm like, I don't want to deal with this right now.

01:17:50.000 Like not right now.

01:17:51.000 That is a form of cultural censorship where all of a sudden we are allowing that pressure to dictate whether or not we are going to stand for what's right and for what we actually need to articulate.

01:18:01.000 The other thing I'll say is this, which I want to re-emphasize this, which is people say, Charlie, how do we win?

01:18:07.000 We win when all of a sudden we stop allowing them to inflict the punishment.

01:18:12.000 We win when all of a sudden we disempower them by showing no matter what you take from me, my salary, my job, my diploma, my friends who aren't really my friends, the thing that matters most is expressing the values and the ideas and the truths that do not change.

01:18:29.000 This country is not going to be saved overnight.

01:18:31.000 People don't like hearing this.

01:18:32.000 We're in a tough spot.

01:18:34.000 They control a lot from Harvard to the New York Times to Google to Facebook, which was like the weirdest 24-hour news cycle of Facebook I've ever seen, but whatever.

01:18:40.000 So so many other different things.

01:18:42.000 The question is this.

01:18:43.000 The question is, will people that still believe in the same American story, believe the Constitution is the greatest political document ever written, that believe natural rights are given to you by God, that believe in life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, the laws of nature and nature is God, and believe in the promise of the Declaration that when in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands with another, that the separate equal stations are given to you by, it continues by saying, laws of nature and nature is God.

01:19:09.000 This is a very important question because we are now on that civilizational brink right now of whether or not we're going to go the direction that they want us to go, tribal warfare, tearing at each other's throats, or we could recommit ourselves.

01:19:21.000 And it starts with this generation.

01:19:24.000 18, 19, 20, 21-year-olds in the audience and watching online.

01:19:27.000 You were born into a world you did not create.

01:19:29.000 So you have a choice. 1.00

01:19:30.000 You could do the AOC thing where you complain about everything, you march in the streets, you say, my parents are a bunch of idiots, and give me a bunch of stuff. 1.00

01:19:38.000 Or you could do this. 1.00

01:19:39.000 Hey, I wish my parents would have been more involved in this, but I'm not going to blame them.

01:19:43.000 It says in the Bible very clearly to honor your mother and father because then you will live long in the land of which you are in.

01:19:49.000 It's the only Ten Commandment with a promise.

01:19:50.000 Instead, you should say, look, maybe my parents could have been more involved, but they gave me an opportunity to live in the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.

01:19:57.000 I have things more going for me than not.

01:19:59.000 I'm going to be filled with gratitude, not anger and venom, and say, guess what?

01:20:03.000 This generation, I'm telling you, we now have to lead the other generations that have been sitting idly by that either don't understand the stakes and circumstances, that are just kind of like, oh, things are going to go back to normal.

01:20:14.000 They will only go back to how they were if we put them back to how they were.

01:20:18.000 This is not a gravitational pull argument like, well, it's going to go back to how it used to be.

01:20:23.000 So here's the final thing I'll say.

01:20:25.000 When we do that, when we no longer allow them to inflict punishment on us, when we stand together as one and when we offer a source of not just compassion, but also a source of catching people when they fall.

01:20:41.000 Someone gets fired from their job, you support them because of their political beliefs, whatever it might be.

01:20:45.000 Then all of a sudden, how do we win?

01:20:47.000 We win with each person believing what you do actually matters.

01:20:51.000 We win when all of a sudden we rise up and we dedicate ourselves to not caring about what other people say about us, but what is true objectively and the things that do not change.

01:21:00.000 This country is a beautiful gift from God, everybody.

01:21:02.000 And it's an honor to be here in this state alongside all of you.

01:21:06.000 I want you to vision cast 10, 20, 30 years from now.

01:21:09.000 I want to say the front page of the New York Times say the following.

01:21:12.000 Sudden and shocking right turn happened post-COVID-19 pandemic when Generation Z and millennials rose up against CRT for freedom in the Constitution.

01:21:22.000 I want to see that headline.

01:21:23.000 I know you do too.

01:21:24.000 We're going to win if we rise up.

01:21:25.000 God bless you guys.

01:21:26.000 Thanks so much for having us in there.

01:21:33.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

01:21:34.000 Email us your thoughts.

01:21:35.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

01:21:37.000 God bless you guys.

01:21:39.000 Thank you for listening.

01:21:40.000 Talk to you soon.

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