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00:00:40.000Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, a very important episode with Jennifer Van Law, deputy managing editor of RedState.com, a terrific website.
00:00:52.000She is probably best known for her incredible work with Katie Hill.
00:00:57.000And I believe we met back last year, right, Jennifer, if I'm not mistaken?
00:01:21.000So we know about the problem with George Soros-funded DAs around the country, including in Chicago with Kim Fox and in St. Louis with Kim Gardner.
00:01:31.000And out here in California, we have Diana Bechton in Contra Costa County.
00:01:35.000So she is the one who had a couple charged with the hate crime when they painted over a Black Lives Matter mural, air quote mural, in Martinez.
00:01:45.000And so she also has put some policies in place regarding looters during the riot.
00:01:52.000So she charged this couple with a hate crime, but she put out a directive that cops and DAs have to go through this whole flowchart to decide whether a looter needed the item or if the place was already broken into before they went in, like this whole decision tree before they can even charge them with looting.
00:02:10.000So can you just take a step back and tell us about the Soros back, the Soros-backed DAs?
00:02:56.000He's funded all these other DAs that have to go through these ridiculous calisthenics of whether someone wants something or they need it, then they're able to get away with the crime.
00:03:07.000And try to determine if they're going to sell what they got or if they're going to use it as if that matters.
00:03:15.000So now it's means-based looting, basically.
00:03:18.000So if you need it, then you can take it.
00:03:22.000If you need Lululemons, you can take them.
00:03:25.000And so what is Soros' agenda here, though?
00:03:28.000People say, I don't quite understand why Soros would be doing this.
00:03:32.000What is his agenda and what is he really trying to achieve here?
00:03:36.000So Kim Fox, Diana Bechten, and a couple others wrote an op-ed in Politico last week.
00:03:42.000And they started off with the premise that our entire justice system is designed to perpetuate slavery since we don't have that as an institution anymore.
00:03:50.000Apparently, they've forgotten all the hundreds of years of judicial systems around the world before our country ever existed.
00:03:57.000But they laid out 11 points in that piece that they want to accomplish as district attorneys.
00:04:05.000I think there were five of them in there that wrote this article.
00:04:09.000How much money has Soros put into some of these races?
00:04:12.000Oh, I don't have all of those figures, but enough that it buries the competition where he's just getting mailers out, robocallers, ballot harvesting, all of the above.
00:04:22.000Yeah, this is really critical race theory in action.
00:04:25.000I mean, we have talked about critical race theory quite a lot, but now you have George Soros, one of the wealthiest people on the planet.
00:04:31.000He put $18 billion into the Open Society Foundation, who now is directly supporting these district attorneys, where if you need something, you could take something.
00:04:40.000However, it is a misapplication of justice towards the people like the McCloskeys or Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:04:47.000And so this is playing out all across the country.
00:04:54.000Well, she, a lot of the mayors in her county didn't realize that she had done this policy.
00:04:59.000And so when my story came out, she was called on the carpet by them, had to have a press conference and admit that the documents that I had received were authentic.
00:05:07.000So I thought that was pretty big that she didn't try to even deny that that was her policy.
00:05:13.000She has another policy where even when an officer has on body cam evidence that he's been assaulted by someone he's trying to arrest, that that's not good enough to charge that person with assault on an officer.
00:05:25.000They have to go through a senior DA signing off on that assault.
00:05:30.000I had probably five or six law enforcement officers from that county contact me and tell me how discouraging it is to know that they can't use a little bit of force if they need to to arrest someone, which these are criminals.
00:05:43.000You might have to get a little rough to effect the arrest.
00:05:47.000I'm not trying to defend at all police violence, but if you're ever on the street with a law enforcement officer doing a ride-along, you'll see that it's not easy sometimes to apprehend someone.
00:05:57.000And I would rather that officer use a little force to arrest them than let that person run a rampage on the community.
00:06:04.000So a deputy attorney general that first got in contact with us kind of motivated this story.
00:06:11.000Can you tell us more about what motivated them to reach out and dive deeper into it?
00:06:16.000Kind of how this whole national news story has unfolded?
00:06:23.000The law enforcement officers that contacted me, they said that if this keeps on going on, then you're going to lose the good law enforcement officers because there are some bad apples.
00:06:33.000But the ones who are really just trying to work hard, get criminals off the streets, they're going to leave Contra Costa County.
00:06:39.000They're going to leave California if this goes national or it goes statewide.
00:06:44.000Also, if they get assaulted by a suspect and the suspect gets hurt in that scuffle, if the suspect is not charged with assault, that suspect can then go sue the county, the city, and that officer individually.
00:06:58.000And so, but it's also just putting communities at risk all across the country.
00:07:02.000So just so everyone can understand, we have a multi-billionaire who is not born in this country who is spending billions of dollars to try and disintegrate our country through the district attorney's offices.
00:08:01.000Yeah, there's contribution limits there, but they go through PACs, they go through other organizations that can spend on that candidate's behalf.
00:08:10.000And so, because of that, now we have an entire whole group of new DAs of the biggest cities in our country.
00:08:17.000And Kim Fox in Chicago, just in the last month, there have been six first-degree murderers in Chicago let out on bail.
00:08:28.000So, it's hard for me to believe that Soros, who is funding this, wants anything else than the complete and total destruction of the country.
00:08:36.000The media doesn't like when we ever mention George Soros.
00:08:41.000Can you just build out more about the Soros funding mechanism and what he's really doing in our country?
00:08:47.000He's just using through all of his different puppet organizations, I guess is the best term for them, putting funding in through there to affect these races and get that message out.
00:09:01.000And the sad thing is, now with Black Lives Matter taking over so much, he doesn't have to spend as much money.
00:09:06.000These people are everywhere spouting everything for him.
00:09:08.000Once you get to that point of, I guess, a critical mass, it just takes off.
00:09:13.000Is there any counter force to this to try to push back against this DA takeover?
00:09:36.000It says, Part of our responsibility as elected public servants is to be self-aware and recognize that we are part of the problem.
00:09:44.000It is our moral and ethical duty to start advancing racial equity-minded policies.
00:09:48.000And the community advocates and voters should hold us accountable for doing so.
00:09:53.000So then they end with, unless we stop trying to reform the system and instead work to transform it, we will never achieve the kind of change needed to upend a system rooted in slavery.
00:10:09.000Yeah, Kim Fox, who is the DA of Chicago, basically in charge of prosecutions for Chicago and letting people off if they just, you know, the BLM decides to riot 600 black-owned businesses.
00:10:25.000And of course, she was the centerpiece of the Jussie Smollett controversy when Jussie tried to start a race war in our country.
00:10:45.000And those of us that study the left, we know that this is a complete and total agenda of the disintegration of America.
00:10:52.000And a lot of, I talk to a lot of people about this in the more moderate camp, and they think we're being over-hyperbolic or alarmist.
00:11:01.000And they say, oh, come on, there's no way that no one could actually get elected in America and believe that if you loot or cheat or steal, you shouldn't be held accountable.
00:11:20.000So not just looters, but peaceful protesters.
00:11:25.000Hold police accountable by pursuing criminal charges against officers who unlawfully use excessive force and other forms of state-sanctioned violence.
00:11:35.000So, but some of them they read like, ah, maybe that's not so bad.
00:11:39.000Well, what do you consider excessive force?
00:11:41.000What do you consider state-sanctioned violence?
00:11:43.000Is going to jail, state-sanctioned violence?
00:11:46.000I can see some of these people arguing that.
00:11:49.000They want to decline to prosecute low-level offenses.
00:11:54.000So they want to just basically get rid of any misdemeanor things.
00:11:58.000Commit to using our office's power and platform to advance discussions of divestment from the criminal legal system and toward community-led and community-defined responses to harm.
00:12:49.000We have all the rest of government doing that.
00:12:53.000Require the review of all available evidence, including body-worn camera and other video footage in cases that rest solely on the testimony of an officer.
00:13:01.000So we have men and women who have sworn to uphold the law and have been doing their job, and them taking an oath that they're telling the truth isn't good enough.
00:13:10.000And from what the officers in Contra Costa County told me, even if you have the body-worn camera footage, they probably won't do it.
00:13:17.000They even had DAs that want to charge it tell them, I don't want the blowback that's going to come at me from the seniors in my office if I charge this.
00:13:25.000So then you have people on the street that imagine being an officer and you get a call to go respond to something.
00:13:31.000And this person has assaulted officers before, but you don't know that because they never charge them.
00:13:37.000So you're walking into a situation where you're at greater risk and you have no idea.
00:13:42.000And this is all rooted in critical race theory where they believe that skin color means everything.
00:13:48.000And honestly, it's an incredibly racist view of the world because if they're equating black people with criminals, which Krimp Kim Fox basically is, she says, we have to lessen the sentences on misdemeanors because that's going to help get rid of white supremacy.
00:14:34.000But while our entire urban centers of our country are going to get run over by these district attorneys, have you seen a direct correlation in the increase of crime when these DAs take over?
00:14:45.000I spoke to some of my sources in Contra Costa County yesterday about that.
00:14:49.000They've seen especially an increase in the lower level crimes because they know they're going to get in statewide in California, we're seeing that because they've changed the rules where it has to be over $950 worth of value before you can really be charged with.
00:15:04.000Say that again for our listeners out of California.
00:15:06.000So if you study, if you steal $945 of value, what happens?
00:15:13.000And so a lot of times those officers won't even charge it because they know you're going to get thrown back out on the street and nothing's going to happen.
00:15:19.000So the officers don't want to waste their time.
00:15:21.000And so people just pretty much shoplifting is out of control in California because they know that nothing's going to happen to them.
00:15:29.000I remember being in San Francisco right after speaking at UC Berkeley, right near the Trans America building.
00:15:36.000San Francisco used to be a very decent and reasonable town and it's not anymore.
00:15:40.000It is probably the worst city in America as how it's governed.
00:15:43.000And there's so much darkness in that city.
00:17:44.000If I do that, that's going to be three or four hours.
00:17:46.000There's one less cop in our, so they go through this whole decision tree.
00:17:49.000He said, they're not going to do anything because it's not that much.
00:17:52.000So we're just going to like let them go.
00:17:54.000We're going to take the drugs and go take them to the station and destroy it, but let them go.
00:18:00.000And I hated to hear that, but I could see the logic in what he was saying.
00:18:03.000They're trying to still just get through their shifts every day too and be able to go home to see their families.
00:18:08.000And these cops are being overworked, right?
00:18:10.000They're being worked 12 hours on, 12 hours off, nonstop, no time with family, totally disrespected, rioters in the streets.
00:18:19.000It seems like Soros and Fox and all these people, you said it earlier, they just want to break it.
00:18:24.000They just want to get to a point where this system falls apart.
00:18:28.000Can you walk us through how someone could believe something like that?
00:18:33.000I've been thinking about this a lot with the critical race theory stuff and how can you want to destroy our country, especially today we're recording the September 11th.
00:18:42.000I was just watching all of the coverage before we started this interview.
00:18:46.000And it comes from a place I get, I think, of guilt.
00:18:49.000People, we have done so well as a country and they feel a little guilty if someone else has less than they do or faces adversity.
00:18:57.000And we should, we should have compassion.
00:18:59.000But the critical race theorists, they prey upon that and convince people that you're bad because you have this or that or the other or convince people that are facing these challenges that they shouldn't have to, that because they're in America, they should just have all of this stuff, that that's their right.
00:19:17.000And I think from there, once you start drinking that Kool-Aid, it just explodes.
00:19:22.000And I'm not sure if you're aware, but LA County Public Health, Soros is getting into public health too.
00:19:28.000The public health director there, Barbara Ferrer, she came straight from the Kellogg Foundation, which is aligned with Soros and was brought in by Hilda Solise, who is an Obama in the Obama administration.
00:19:41.000And she's the public health director here in LA County.
00:19:44.000So she's the one that got caught on tape the other day saying that the schools won't open till after the election.
00:19:53.000Barbara Ferrer also said something where she supported looting and rioting because she said that was a good activity, but she said, because it's the wokest virus we've ever seen.
00:20:17.000She apparently left Boston under some bad circumstances that I haven't fully explored yet.
00:20:23.000Went to Kellogg Foundation and then to LA County.
00:20:26.000Her big goals here are all racial equity, equity, and health equity, not preventing disease, which is what you think a public health officer would do.
00:20:35.000She hasn't done anything about typhus that's been going through downtown LA and going to LAPD headquarters, officers getting typhus, hepatitis.
00:20:44.000She didn't want to pay for vaccines for the doctors for some of the diseases they come in contact with all the time.
00:20:49.000But it's all about getting Planned Parenthood counseling in the high schools, racial equity.
00:21:53.000We have, by the way, if you actually tally up the amount of resources that conservative philanthropists have, and I'm so thankful for the conservative philanthropists that have supported us at turning point.
00:22:02.000And this is by no ways a slight at them, but look at the landscape here, right?
00:22:06.000It's kind of in some ways, I'm kind of like, hey, we can do more, guys, because Soros, Tom Steyer, Bloomberg, I mean, can you build out this kind of money that has this being spent at this stuff?
00:22:17.000Because I don't think people realize it because, and God bless the amazing conservative, generous patriots like Foster Freeze and stuff that have supported me.
00:22:26.000So I'm not trying to be, you know, full of ingratitude.
00:22:29.000I'm just saying, look, we're not even engaging on some of the stuff where Soros is putting a country's GDP at work, right?
00:22:37.000So can you just go through the overwhelming amount of resources that are being spent from every direction from BLM to every town to Planned Parenthood?
00:22:48.000So I'm glad you brought up Bloomberg because a few years ago, I studied how Bloomberg was getting his gun control agenda passed through every town.
00:22:56.000And it's very scientific the way that he picks different jurisdictions where he can get someone elected.
00:23:03.000And then they introduce certain measures in the legislatures in those states like Washington and Oregon were big ones a couple of years ago.
00:23:11.000And they pull out what messages are going to resonate with voters.
00:23:15.000And then those are, that's the measures they go after first.
00:23:20.000He's going to do the same pattern of finding a jurisdiction that has a weak incumbent or where he thinks that he can make inroads and bring those candidates.
00:23:29.000And I'm totally with you on with the conservative side.
00:23:31.000There's great donors and great people doing a lot, but a lot of people aren't putting their money or their actions where their mouth is.
00:23:38.000Because not just money, it's going out and registering voters.
00:23:41.000It's going out and getting your friends to the polls.
00:23:44.000And we need to realize, hopefully, this BLM stuff, if there's a silver lining, has made people really realize what the other side is about.
00:23:52.000Yeah, this is something we try to do through our political vehicle, Turning Point Action.
00:23:56.000And I argue that conservatives, we have a spectator culture, not an activist culture.
00:24:02.000So we're at, I mean, we act, and it's really interesting when you dive into it.
00:24:05.000There's definitely maybe even a book that could be built around this where how much talk radio conservatives consume, how much Fox News we consume.
00:24:41.000I think they might be the only player in town.
00:24:43.000But the left has an activistic culture.
00:24:45.000We have a spectator culture where some conservatives, and I say this as lovingly as I can, we believe as conservatives that our involvement is listening to Rush Limbaugh or Mark Levin, watching Tucker Carlson and buying a pillow.
00:25:02.000Like that's not going to save the Republic.
00:25:04.000While the liberals, they might watch Rachel Maddow, but they're out there registering voters.
00:27:55.000And what I'm trying, my call to action here, and I don't want this to be just a depressing landscape because you've been delivering some very, you know, unfortunate news, is that we as conservatives, we have to give more money.
00:28:06.000I mean, I talk about Pastor Rob McCoy.
00:28:08.000You know, Pastor McCoy, right down the street, Thousand Oaks.
00:28:11.000He gives 10% of his income to candidates every single, every single election cycle, 10%.
00:28:16.000He ties to the church, ties to candidates, and he makes a biblical argument for it.
00:28:20.000So if you're not giving 10% of your income to politics, I tell people you're not, or at least 10% of your time, 10% of something, right?
00:28:26.000If you don't have the money, that's fine.
00:28:41.000I did have some hope earlier this week.
00:28:45.000Scott Pressler was in town and had, yeah, we filled this place called the Republican Value Center in SUNY Valley, over 100 people there.
00:28:53.000And he had everyone fired up to go register people to vote and make sure that we get our ballots in to a ballot collection center, not through the mail.
00:29:01.000And everyone was fired up to go, well, that hopefully that will go into action.
00:29:06.000But it was nice to see that was the biggest crowd I've seen fired up to actually do something besides listen in a long time.
00:29:20.000But generally, the amount of consumption versus action, it's got to change or else this country is going to be destroyed.
00:29:27.000If you have kids, you need to do a knock on doors, bring them with you.
00:29:31.000I would think most people are going to be nice.
00:29:34.000Your kids aren't going to be in harm's way.
00:29:36.000In our city, people get on street corners with the signs for their candidate and wave like during commute times because it's a big commuter city.
00:29:43.000So people aren't always home to see who the candidates are.
00:29:46.000So I have pictures of my son when he was about 10 and laying on a bench by DGI Fridays because we were out there waving signs for Steve Knight.
00:29:58.000He's kind of just laying there holding up a Steve Knight sign.
00:30:01.000But he was able to say he's in 12th grade now and taking U.S. government and able to say, yeah, I worked on a campaign.
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