The Charlie Kirk Show - July 27, 2023


How Hunter Biden and the DOJ Got Caught Red Handed with Fmr. Federal Prosecutor Will Scharf


Episode Stats

Length

37 minutes

Words per Minute

168.96861

Word Count

6,280

Sentence Count

468


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

Transcript

Transcripts from "The Charlie Kirk Show" are sourced from the Knowledge Fight Interactive Search Tool. Explore them interactively here.
00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:00.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk show, the Hunter Biden plea deal that just defies all logic.
00:00:05.000 Will Sharf is here to help explain it.
00:00:07.000 Email us, freedom at charliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast.
00:00:10.000 Open up your podcast application and type in Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:14.000 Get involved with TurningPointUSA at tpusa.com.
00:00:17.000 That is tpusa.com.
00:00:19.000 Start a high school or college chapter today.
00:00:21.000 Get involved in our education movement at tpusa.com.
00:00:24.000 That is tpusa.com.
00:00:27.000 Become a member at members.charliekirk.com.
00:00:30.000 People are joining very fast.
00:00:31.000 Here is the offer.
00:00:33.000 It goes till Monday for the next 500 people.
00:00:36.000 That's right.
00:00:37.000 500 people who become members.
00:00:39.000 You get my hot sauce for free.
00:00:41.000 Members.charlikirk.com.
00:00:44.000 500.
00:00:46.000 All right.
00:00:46.000 It's happening very quick.
00:00:48.000 And you also can hear exclusive conversation like this one with Tucker Carlson.
00:00:52.000 Enjoy.
00:00:52.000 Humility empowers you.
00:00:54.000 That's the sad thing is they miss when you say I'm sorry or I was wrong.
00:00:59.000 It makes you happier too.
00:01:00.000 100% when you say, when you tell the truth about yourself, you know, to the extent you can see it, it's kind of hard to see ourselves and like we're not always accurate in the way we understand ourselves.
00:01:09.000 But to the extent that you can to say, this is who I really am, once you stop lying, you're filled with this weird supernatural power.
00:01:17.000 That is totally true.
00:01:19.000 And they should try that because you're not hiding all the time.
00:01:22.000 Oh, man, I hope they never find out I'm an alcoholic or secretly gay or was behind the Iraq war.
00:01:28.000 It's like everyone already knows.
00:01:30.000 Just say it out loud.
00:01:30.000 Like the people who love you will love you anyway.
00:01:32.000 It's not.
00:01:33.000 Do you know what I mean?
00:01:34.000 Yes.
00:01:34.000 And they're so afraid.
00:01:36.000 Members.charliekirk.com, affordable.
00:01:39.000 And you get a signed hot sauce bottle.
00:01:42.000 Wow.
00:01:42.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:01:43.000 Here we go.
00:01:45.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:01:47.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:01:49.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:01:52.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:01:55.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:01:56.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:01:57.000 His spirit, his love of this country.
00:01:59.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:02:06.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:15.000 That's why we are here.
00:02:18.000 Brought to you by the Loan Experts I Trust, Andrew and Todd at Sierra Pacific Mortgage at andrewandTodd.com.
00:02:27.000 This is the weirdest news cycle that I think anyone has lived through.
00:02:32.000 We got hearings on UFOs, and the conspiracy theorists are saying, no, no, no, there's actually no aliens.
00:02:40.000 And they're saying there's like extraterrestrial human beings, non-human life walking among us.
00:02:45.000 We got Obama's chef who just drowns.
00:02:48.000 We're just supposed to take that whole story, nothing to see here, move on.
00:02:51.000 Got Hunter Biden plea deal falling apart.
00:02:53.000 Trump's about to get indicted.
00:02:56.000 I mean, this is just like strange things happening all over the place.
00:02:59.000 We got congressional hearing on men in women's locker rooms and Jerry Nadler reading some press release saying that, oh, no, it's perfectly fine that men are allowed to go into locker rooms.
00:03:09.000 You got Sam Bakeman Freed, who got dropped charges on some of it, some of it on campaign finance stuff.
00:03:15.000 It's just, you got so much news going on.
00:03:16.000 You don't even know what's happening.
00:03:18.000 Is there a conductor to all this?
00:03:20.000 Is this stuff happening accidentally or on purpose?
00:03:22.000 Part of it, yes, but you have to slow down.
00:03:26.000 Slow down.
00:03:28.000 If you're like me, I don't recognize this country somedays.
00:03:32.000 If you look at that hearing on men going into female locker rooms, it's unbelievable.
00:03:37.000 The regime media is celebrating Barbie as this like feminist movie while simultaneously saying it's perfectly fine for biological men to go into female locker rooms.
00:03:50.000 And then you just got hearings on aliens.
00:03:52.000 Perfectly normal.
00:03:54.000 Obama's chef, poor guy, dies, He couldn't swim, what he was doing in the water.
00:04:01.000 It's like all this strange stuff.
00:04:03.000 Probably nothing to it.
00:04:04.000 But then we learn that, like, the Clinton's private chef also died under mysterious circumstances.
00:04:09.000 Anyway, and then Donald Trump is in front of the special counsel.
00:04:12.000 But we're going to start with the Hunter Biden story, which is also very confusing.
00:04:17.000 We're going to try to make sense of all this.
00:04:18.000 If anybody tells you clearly what is going on and they know what's going on, they're lying to you.
00:04:24.000 This is all just guesswork and educated guesswork with speculation.
00:04:28.000 So here's how things were supposed to work yesterday: Hunter Biden was supposed to show up, was supposed to get a tongue-lashing from a judge, sign a piece of paper, and move on.
00:04:39.000 That's what was supposed to happen.
00:04:42.000 Hunter Biden showed up with his bong-smoking brother lawyer, is what they call it.
00:04:50.000 And things started to fall apart.
00:04:51.000 The judge started to ask questions.
00:04:53.000 That's his lawyer, who is a marijuana-using guy.
00:05:00.000 And things started to fall apart.
00:05:02.000 Critical questions started to be asked.
00:05:04.000 And all of a sudden, the lawyer said, Oh, yeah, the plea deal is dead.
00:05:08.000 And remember, this lawyer paid off a $2.8 million payment in debt for Hunter.
00:05:13.000 Now, we have an amazing guest coming up, Will Sharf, who's running for the Attorney General in Missouri.
00:05:17.000 I've known Will for many years.
00:05:18.000 He's excellent.
00:05:19.000 I hope he becomes Attorney General of Missouri.
00:05:21.000 Now, Blake is super high IQ, went to Dartmouth, smart guy.
00:05:25.000 And he's read this plea deal, and he says it doesn't make any sense.
00:05:28.000 I've read it.
00:05:29.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:05:30.000 And I mean that as simply as I possibly can.
00:05:34.000 It is remarkably confusing.
00:05:38.000 And when you go through it, it seems as if that they were trying to give him a pardon without explicitly giving him a pardon.
00:05:47.000 Now, how are they doing that?
00:05:48.000 Well, basically, there were two documents that a federal judge was reviewing yesterday.
00:05:53.000 One was Hunter Biden's plea deal to plead guilty to tax charges.
00:05:57.000 The other was a diversion agreement allowing him to avoid prosecution for a gun charge.
00:06:01.000 Now, normally, all the details of the actual plea agreement would be in the plea agreement.
00:06:08.000 But in this case, the feds dumped a ton of details into the diversion agreement.
00:06:13.000 If you read the deal very carefully, what they say in effect is that if Hunter doesn't commit more crimes for two years, then he's immune from any prosecution for Foreign Agent Registration Act violations for all the corruption and bribery he's engaged in.
00:06:32.000 What you don't commit more crimes?
00:06:36.000 It's even people that are seasoned.
00:06:39.000 And I was texting some people that used to be in the DOJ.
00:06:42.000 I said, Have you ever seen anything like this?
00:06:43.000 I texted a guy, 10 years in the Department of Justice, really fair-minded, smart guy, private lawyer now.
00:06:49.000 He says, Charlie, I have never seen anything remotely close to this.
00:06:52.000 He said, This is not a sweetheart deal.
00:06:55.000 This is like Stalin's son-type stuff.
00:06:59.000 He's like, If Stalin's son got in trouble with the law, what would Joseph Stalin do?
00:07:04.000 This is like not third world banana republic.
00:07:07.000 This is pure outright dictatorship totalitarian stuff.
00:07:11.000 Basically, they were saying, We agree to not prosecute you for anything else if you stay out of trouble, and this is a binding agreement.
00:07:19.000 And they hid that they were doing this, and the judge noticed and flipped.
00:07:23.000 Praise God for this judge, honestly.
00:07:26.000 I think that this judge was under intense pressure to go along with this.
00:07:31.000 But I think this judge flipped and was able to be given an excuse privately and publicly to all the pressure that I believe she was receiving because of Hunter Biden's lawyers calling and impersonating and lying.
00:07:49.000 This is a part of the story that I think we have to remind.
00:07:52.000 This judge and the clerk's office gets a fake call from Latham Watkins, a top-tier blue-chip law firm, demanding that an amicus brief is pulled.
00:08:06.000 And we're all just supposed to act as if that's normal.
00:08:08.000 I think this judge reached a breaking point.
00:08:13.000 And honestly, praise God for this judge for saying, like, no, we're not going to do this.
00:08:17.000 And so we asked the question, who benefits from this?
00:08:19.000 Gavin Newsom benefits from this.
00:08:21.000 This now makes the Hunter Biden and the Joe Biden corruption front and center.
00:08:25.000 Simultaneously, we have Speaker McCarthy that seems to be accelerating impeachment proceedings.
00:08:31.000 I, for one, am tired of all this kind of like, oh, we have to have committee.
00:08:34.000 Just put the articles on the floor.
00:08:36.000 That's me.
00:08:36.000 I'm sick and tired of waiting.
00:08:38.000 What else are we going to learn?
00:08:39.000 Read Peter Schweiser's book.
00:08:41.000 Everything that Schweiser wrote years ago is true, has been now verified by third-party investigations.
00:08:48.000 And I just want to reiterate, Lotham Watkins is the number, Latham Watkins, number four law firm nationwide in the rankings.
00:08:56.000 It's amazing, first of all, that Hunter can retain that level of the firm, given that the Bidens are not supposed to be very well off.
00:09:03.000 I guarantee you this.
00:09:05.000 This plea deal was supposed to be a conversation ender, and it has all fallen apart.
00:09:10.000 I would bet the farm that there are LLCs and bank accounts that we have not yet learned about.
00:09:19.000 I would bet the farm that there are millions of dollars in the Cayman Islands, in the Bahamas, in Swiss bank accounts, in foreign transactions, in real estate, in numbered accounts.
00:09:36.000 Just think about how much has come out in just the last couple of weeks.
00:09:39.000 The gay IRS Democrat was just a week ago saying, we have not been able to investigate any of this.
00:09:46.000 You know, you could say it's just the tip of the iceberg.
00:09:48.000 I think this is just the beginning of the story.
00:09:50.000 This plea deal was supposed to end it.
00:09:52.000 I believe that this plea deal falling apart significantly puts into jeopardy the idea of Joe Biden becoming the nominee in 2024.
00:10:00.000 It still could happen.
00:10:02.000 They have a machinery that they're very confident in, but this adds a lot of mystery.
00:10:07.000 Now, whether or not that's a good thing for Republicans and Trump supporters remain to be seen.
00:10:12.000 We might actually look back and be like, boy, I wish that plea deal went through, because running against Gavin Newsom will be a lot harder than Joe Biden.
00:10:19.000 If it's Kamala Harris, I invite that.
00:10:21.000 I think Kamala Harris is unbelievably beatable.
00:10:24.000 I think she's so unlikable.
00:10:26.000 She has Ava Peron type tendencies, totalitarian dictator, cackler, not likable.
00:10:33.000 As we said, Indian Caribbean Hillary.
00:10:35.000 So be careful what you wish for.
00:10:37.000 However, I think it's good.
00:10:39.000 I think it's healthy that at least there's some check and balance left in our system that says no.
00:10:45.000 This was supposed to be a rubber stamp.
00:10:50.000 This was supposed to be a no question to ask regime, yes, move on plea deal.
00:10:57.000 And something went awry.
00:11:00.000 Did something go awry because of looming anxiety about Joe Biden's ability to speak in coherent sentences and that Donald Trump is only gaining steam?
00:11:09.000 Did this go awry because of, again, I don't like poll watching.
00:11:13.000 It drives me nuts, but Harvard Harris poll shows Donald Trump up five points on Joe Biden in the key battleground states.
00:11:18.000 Is it that there's a little bit of uneasy and they want to try to keep Joe Biden in?
00:11:24.000 And the media is just in fault.
00:11:26.000 I mean, you got Claire McCaskill in the view saying that the crime is Joe Biden loving his son.
00:11:31.000 I've officially seen everything.
00:11:34.000 I've now seen everything.
00:11:35.000 Wait till you hear this clip of Claire McCaskill.
00:11:37.000 Thank goodness Senator Josh Holly beat in 2018.
00:11:39.000 She says the crime here Republicans are trying to go after is a father loving his son.
00:11:47.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
00:11:48.000 Does lack of energy, memory issues, brain fog, or other mysterious health issues cause you distress?
00:11:53.000 If so, listen up because I dealt with the same exact issues until I found Strong Cell.
00:11:57.000 Strong Cell is a liquid NADH supplement packed with highly bioavailable CoQ10, marine collagen, and tons of essential vitamins.
00:12:04.000 All these work together with NADH to improve your health at the cellular level.
00:12:08.000 There are cells in every area of your body, so if your cells are healthy, you'll be healthier.
00:12:12.000 I'm asked by a lot of nutrition companies to endorse their products, and I say no to most of them.
00:12:16.000 But once I saw what Strong Cell did for me personally, I reached out and teamed up with them.
00:12:20.000 Go to strongcell.com forward slash Charlie today and check it out for yourself.
00:12:24.000 I take it every day, and it's made a big impact on my life.
00:12:26.000 Remember, this is not an overnight fix, it's repairing your body at the cellular level, so you got to give it time for it to work.
00:12:32.000 I recommend you try the 30-day supply to give your body the greatest chance to see the benefits.
00:12:36.000 Visit strongcell.com forward slash Charlie or call 888-596-0155 or use promo code Charlie to get a special 20% off discount.
00:12:44.000 That's strongcell.com forward slash Charlie.
00:12:50.000 This is an amazing clip.
00:12:53.000 Claire McCaskill, former senator from Missouri, talking to Jen Pesaki, play cut 94.
00:13:00.000 What accusations and arguments do you think they're going to make, given this didn't go exactly as planned today?
00:13:07.000 Well, they're going to keep doing what they've been doing.
00:13:09.000 They are going to try to indict a father for loving his son who has been addicted to drugs and/or alcohol, and without evidence of the father doing anything other than loving that son.
00:13:25.000 I'll be honest, just seeing that saddens me to the level of Pravda-style dishonesty that half the country engages in.
00:13:34.000 That's so hunt, and it's so unhealthy.
00:13:39.000 It's so damaging.
00:13:41.000 This is a former U.S. senator who it's not just lying, it's the opposite, it's the inversion of the truth.
00:13:48.000 Lying is saying, No, I did not go to that restaurant.
00:13:51.000 What they're doing is like, you were in the restaurant.
00:13:54.000 No, I wasn't.
00:13:54.000 We went through the whole cookie example the other day.
00:13:57.000 And by the way, if Joe Biden is such a loving grandfather, like this quack on MSNBC says, What's that?
00:14:04.000 Boy, we had that in the cold open.
00:14:06.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right.
00:14:08.000 Mike Barnacle, these people are unbelievable.
00:14:11.000 Play cut 59.
00:14:13.000 You know, the clip that we just showed about the president speaking yesterday showed Joseph R. Biden who he really is.
00:14:23.000 He's an emotional guy, he's a president of the United States who is capable of tears.
00:14:29.000 And I don't think he gets enough credit for being the decent human being that you know, that I know, that we all know.
00:14:38.000 He doesn't get enough credit for it.
00:14:40.000 Everyone just nods along.
00:14:41.000 Oh, really?
00:14:41.000 He's such a good grandfather that he ignores one of his grandchildren, doesn't even acknowledge them as if it's dust, as if it's just kind of a rat in Arkansas.
00:14:52.000 He goes out of his way to say that he has six grandkids when in reality he has seven.
00:14:58.000 Maybe it's seven or eight, whatever.
00:14:59.000 It's right near there.
00:15:00.000 He's a scumbag.
00:15:03.000 And yet the entire regime media has now resorted towards this.
00:15:07.000 He's such a sweet and personal guy.
00:15:09.000 He's a traitor to the United States, and he's a scummy grandfather.
00:15:15.000 To just say that there's a grandchild out there, how hard would it be?
00:15:19.000 They got millions of dollars laying around.
00:15:21.000 Why couldn't Joe Biden just say, okay, that's my granddaughter, obviously under less than desirable circumstances?
00:15:28.000 Is that that hard to do?
00:15:30.000 No, you have to go fly your son out on private jets to alimony hearings, to go fight dollars and cents for a woman he impregnated of a daughter that is now alive, looking for a future.
00:15:41.000 Like no, we just ignore them.
00:15:44.000 These are bad, bad people, and it's consistent.
00:15:47.000 The same scumbag who is our president, who ignores his granddaughter, is the same person who sells us out to the Chinese, who sells us out to Burisma.
00:15:57.000 These people are morally corrupt across the board.
00:16:01.000 Across the board, they always have been.
00:16:05.000 They have suppressed their soul to such an extent and boy, they're gonna have an eternal reckoning at some point if they don't get right with the lord.
00:16:12.000 The amount of evil these people have engaged in and they think that they're being so virtuous like, oh yeah, we're doing the right thing.
00:16:21.000 You guys are really challenging the divine and the almighty in a serious way.
00:16:28.000 Let's go to cut 95.
00:16:32.000 Former U.s attorney slams, Biden DOJ play cut 95.
00:16:38.000 So if you're right, if i'm right, that that one of the choices the Department has is to dismiss this thing and just admit that they're they're they're a protection racket for the Bidens, they're gonna have to justify getting rid of it and at this point they've already charged it and she's arraigned him.
00:16:56.000 He's he's pled not guilty and she's gonna demand that they prosecute the case or give her a reason to dismiss that.
00:17:04.000 So this is, this is ongoing.
00:17:07.000 We're gonna see if the investigation accelerates or slows down.
00:17:12.000 What does the Administrative State want?
00:17:17.000 That's the question.
00:17:19.000 We know who runs the government.
00:17:21.000 Stop acting as if this is a series of mistakes.
00:17:24.000 There's some coordination happening here.
00:17:26.000 So what does the Administrative State want?
00:17:28.000 And my best guess today is, I don't think they know.
00:17:34.000 In some ways, the Administrative State, the shadow government, the Leviathan.
00:17:38.000 They're actually more powerful, with Biden being compromised because they get whatever they want full rubber stamp.
00:17:46.000 At the same time, you have Donald Trump looming.
00:17:51.000 You have Donald Trump growing in popularity.
00:17:54.000 You have Donald Trump increasing despite everything they're throwing at him.
00:17:57.000 And any moment now we might get news, Donald Trump indicted by the Department OF Justice on 48 accounts or 57 counts of insurrection rebellion, seditious conspiracy lying blah blah blah, all that crap.
00:18:09.000 What does the administrative state want?
00:18:11.000 I think they're Actually, uncertain.
00:18:14.000 And I think that's why you're seeing one of the murkiest news cycles of our lifetime.
00:18:22.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
00:18:24.000 We are saving babies with pre-born by providing free ultrasounds.
00:18:27.000 When you introduce a girl to her baby by providing an ultrasound, you're giving her the truth at the most important time in her life.
00:18:33.000 And more than 85% of the time, when she sees the baby and hears the baby's heartbeat, she will choose life.
00:18:38.000 The voices that call themselves pro-choice are loud and proud, and they are everywhere.
00:18:42.000 It might feel like an uphill battle, but there is no better fight to fight than with the truth of an ultrasound.
00:18:47.000 $140 gives five mothers a free ultrasound and saves babies.
00:18:50.000 $280 can save 10 babies.
00:18:52.000 For just $28 a month, you can save a baby a month for less than $1 a day.
00:18:56.000 And $15,000 gift will provide an ultrasound machine that will save lives for years to come.
00:19:01.000 Whether you want to save one baby or five or hundreds, that opportunity is just a phone call or click away.
00:19:06.000 I'm a donor to Pre-Born, and you should be too.
00:19:08.000 Call 833-850-BABY.
00:19:10.000 That is 833-850-2229 or go to preborn.org/slash Kirk.
00:19:16.000 If you want to save one baby or five or hundreds, the opportunity is just right there.
00:19:19.000 Go to preborn.org/slash Kirk.
00:19:26.000 Joining us now is Will Sharf.
00:19:27.000 Will, thank you for making time.
00:19:28.000 Will is running for Attorney General of Missouri.
00:19:31.000 Will has prosecuted cases of some really bad dudes, bad hombres, as we would say.
00:19:36.000 He's a great man.
00:19:37.000 Will, I saw your tweet, and I had to reread it five or six times.
00:19:40.000 This is without a doubt one of the most perplexing and confusing, quote-unquote, plea deals I have ever seen.
00:19:46.000 Make it make sense for me and our audience.
00:19:49.000 Yeah, you know, that's exactly right, Charlie.
00:19:51.000 First of all, thanks for having me on.
00:19:53.000 What we saw with this Hunter Biden deal was an attempt by the Department of Justice and Hunter's legal team to let him walk out of court with total immunity for basically a decade of all of his malfeasance, whether it's burismo, whether it's his shady deals in China, failing to register as a foreign agent.
00:20:14.000 All of the accusations that we've all heard about Hunter Biden and his activities were going to be wiped clean in return for a minor misdemeanor plea to a couple of tax charges.
00:20:27.000 That's not the deal that DOJ represented it was to the public.
00:20:32.000 But when you dig into the court documents, that's the deal that they promised.
00:20:36.000 And to make it even more outrageous, they attempted to insulate the deal both from public view and from judicial oversight by burying the key immunity provisions, not in the plea agreement where they would usually be, but in a pretrial diversion agreement that they said was about an unlawful possession of a firearm charge, but was really about the full scope of Hunter's illegal activity over the better part of a decade.
00:21:03.000 It's outrageous.
00:21:05.000 Fortunately, Judge Norieca, who's an outstanding judge in Delaware, a Trump-appointed judge who was confirmed unanimously by the United States Senate, she wasn't having any of it.
00:21:16.000 She demanded accountability from the lawyers.
00:21:19.000 She ran through these two different agreements in gruesome detail in open court, and she blew the whole thing up and sent them back to the drawing board.
00:21:27.000 That's what all of us who care about the rule of law and the Constitution should have been rooting for.
00:21:33.000 And it's just, it's a great result.
00:21:35.000 Give us some examples of what Judge Norieca did as far as going to the details.
00:21:42.000 Walk us through some of that.
00:21:44.000 So the Department of Justice and Hunter's legal team hid the key provisions, these key immunity provisions, in a pretrial diversion agreement, which isn't even in usual circumstances supposed to come before the court.
00:21:58.000 So instead of being upfront and honest, both with the court and the American people by having a clear and open plea agreement, they basically buried this stuff in a document that they thought would never see the light of day.
00:22:11.000 And because of that, they argued that this plea agreement was really not a big deal.
00:22:16.000 And because of the provision they were bringing it under, didn't even require judicial approval at all.
00:22:23.000 Judge Norieka said that if you're agreeing to this kind of immunity from prosecution, those cases do require judicial oversight, and the judge gets to have a say.
00:22:34.000 So she was unwilling to engage in this kind of constitutional morass that they were setting up and instead demanded that the deal that was being presented in court be the actual deal.
00:22:48.000 But she pointed out contradictions in the way that DOJ was presenting the plea versus the actual terms of the plea.
00:22:57.000 She pointed out that this pretrial diversion agreement was essentially incorporated into the plea deal.
00:23:04.000 She made Hunter say on the record that he wouldn't accept the plea deal, absent this corrupt pretrial diversion agreement.
00:23:12.000 And she got DOJ to say on the record that one, there is an ongoing investigation into Hunter Biden, and two, that he could face liability as an unregistered foreign agent under FARA.
00:23:24.000 Those were two big admissions that DOJ clearly did not want to make in open court.
00:23:30.000 But because she was on the ball, because she knew the facts and the law, we, the American people, at least have those answers this morning.
00:23:39.000 So, Will, I have a very simple technical question.
00:23:42.000 Who actually writes these plea agreements?
00:23:45.000 Who does this?
00:23:46.000 Is this the prosecutor in charge of the case?
00:23:49.000 I mean, I guess the simple answer is: did Merrick Garland review this plea deal before it went in front of the judge?
00:23:56.000 So, typically, prosecutors are the ones who prepare plea agreements.
00:24:00.000 I've prepared dozens and dozens of plea agreements, or I did in my career as a federal prosecutor.
00:24:06.000 There are terms that are negotiated over.
00:24:09.000 The defense counsel is obviously going to have a say in certain provisions.
00:24:13.000 But at the end of the day, it's the job of the prosecutor to prepare this thing.
00:24:16.000 I don't know if Merrick Garland had a say in this.
00:24:20.000 It's such an irregular deal that I find it tough to believe that no one at Maine Justice in D.C. was cued in as to what they were doing.
00:24:29.000 The whole thing just reeks of the kind of corruption, of the kind of two-tiered system of justice that we've seen time and time again under President Biden and under Merrick Garland.
00:24:40.000 Well, and so correct me if I'm wrong, though, Will, but typically if there's a plea deal, there's also something in return, testimony, right?
00:24:48.000 Some sort of evidence.
00:24:50.000 This seems a plea deal just because, I mean, when you have ongoing investigations, isn't it usually like, okay, we can, you're the bag man.
00:24:58.000 Maybe you could testify against the mob leader, or you could be helpful in an ongoing.
00:25:03.000 There was none of this here.
00:25:06.000 So at times, you'll see plea deals that are structured where a defendant agrees to plead guilty to some charges in return for other charges being dropped or an agreement not to bring new charges.
00:25:20.000 But those deals are always subject to judicial approval.
00:25:23.000 They purposely structured this deal to pull Judge Norieka out of the circle and basically just to shove it down her throat and to require her, in her words, to be a rubber stamp.
00:25:34.000 And she just wasn't willing to do that, fortunately, for all of us who care about these sorts of things.
00:25:41.000 But, you know, anyone who's ever been in federal court, anyone who's prosecuted a case will tell you that the structure of this plea agreement was highly irregular.
00:25:52.000 It didn't really reflect the facts on the ground at all.
00:25:55.000 I think it was an attempt by Hunter's legal team and by DOJ to pull a fast one.
00:26:01.000 And fortunately, there was a judge who was sharp enough and who understood what they were trying to do, and she blew the whole thing up.
00:26:09.000 But it's also the Constitution got in the way.
00:26:11.000 They would have loved to not have to involve a judge.
00:26:14.000 And the fact they even had to go through this process probably irritated them.
00:26:17.000 They wanted to go top-down, bottom-up, DOJ, Hunter Biden's lawyers meet in the middle, rubber stamp.
00:26:23.000 But the framers actually put together this system where, no, no, no, no, you have to run this by a judge.
00:26:30.000 They were effectively asking the judge to perform a judicial duty without even knowing what that duty was.
00:26:37.000 Judge Norieka was very clear that there were poor separation of powers issues, poor constitutional issues implicated by the way that they had structured this attempted, I'd call it almost an out-of-court settlement in the form of this pretrial diversion agreement.
00:26:53.000 And then even more, after cutting her out of the deal, they attempted to cut her back in in a different provision in the pre-trial diversion agreement by saying that if Hunter Biden violated his probation, prosecutors, maybe prosecutors under a future Trump administration, wouldn't be authorized to bring charges without first seeking judicial approval.
00:27:16.000 So they attempted to ram through this deal without judicial approval and then said that to reassess or readdress things down the road, you would need judicial approval.
00:27:27.000 So they didn't want the judge involved where she's supposed to be involved.
00:27:31.000 But they are so scared of future liability for Hunter that they attempted to put in that extra constitutional, unconstitutional check on future prosecutors and limit their ability to bring charges down the road.
00:27:44.000 So let me get this straight.
00:27:45.000 The Department of Justice has other investigations in process, but they were actively trying to strike a plea deal that blew up future cases.
00:27:53.000 Yes.
00:27:54.000 I think that that is the only fair way to interpret the documents they submitted to the court and their statements in open court.
00:28:03.000 It's crazy.
00:28:04.000 It's something that, you know, in no normal case would this ever happen.
00:28:08.000 But we've seen this willingness to let Hunter Biden get away with what I believe is the greatest scandal in American history, a broad-ranging foreign corruption conspiracy between him and other members of his family, including, I believe, President Biden.
00:28:25.000 DOJ wanted to just wipe that all away, let him plead guilty with no prison time to two little misdemeanor tax charges and bind the hands of any future prosecutor that might want to look at all this.
00:28:37.000 No, this is smart.
00:28:37.000 So, Will, you know, you were in the Department of Justice, right?
00:28:40.000 In a Missouri office, I'm not mistaken, right?
00:28:42.000 You were going after some really bad dudes and you went after violent crime.
00:28:46.000 There are some good people still in the Department of Justice.
00:28:48.000 Here's my working theory is that there's a fraction, I don't know, maybe 5%, 10% of people that are involved or adjacent to these active investigations.
00:28:57.000 And they are really upset that they are not allowed to do their job.
00:29:00.000 They're upset about the double standard.
00:29:02.000 They're seeing Trump get after, you know, they have to probably, they hear all the chatter in the DOJ office, like, wait, hold on, we have the special counsel thing.
00:29:08.000 What it seems to be, and plus they're getting pressure from Grassley and from Congress, which, you know, is irritating, but the internal pressure, I think, is significant.
00:29:17.000 What it seems to be, Will, is that they wanted this plea deal as a way where they could shut up internal DOJ pressure to actually continue the investigations into Hunter Biden.
00:29:29.000 We've seen that with these various whistleblowers that have come forward from the IRS, from DOJ, talking about the special treatment given to Hunter.
00:29:37.000 Look, I was a line prosecutor in a violent crime unit in St. Louis.
00:29:41.000 I served under Trump appointees only.
00:29:43.000 I never saw this kind of D.C. Democrat politicization of the Justice Department the way that we're all seeing it now.
00:29:52.000 But it really tells you just how far the Biden administration has been willing to take things to clean things up for the Biden family because of their long history of these really horrific criminal acts.
00:30:06.000 There's another wrinkle to this that I want to dive into, which is Latham Watkins, a top-tier firm, this just lies to a clerk.
00:30:16.000 I think this is important.
00:30:16.000 I don't think this is insignificant.
00:30:18.000 Some people are saying it's a sideshow.
00:30:19.000 I think it plays right into the paranoia, the neurotic behavior, the pride, and also the desperation on behalf of Hunter Biden's legal team.
00:30:31.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
00:30:32.000 MyPillow's 20-year anniversary.
00:30:35.000 They're celebrating over 80 million pillows sold.
00:30:37.000 Mike Lindell with MyPillow wants to thank you by giving you the lowest price in history on their MyPillows.
00:30:43.000 You'll receive a queen-size MyPillow for $19.98.
00:30:46.000 Regular price is $69.98 and just $10 more for a king size.
00:30:50.000 With this special anniversary offer, you'll receive a dip-deep discount on all my pillow products, such as their bed sheets, mattress toppers, pet beds, mattresses, my slippers, and so much more.
00:31:00.000 Go to mypillow.com and click on the radio podcast Square and use promo code Kirk to receive this amazing offer on the queen size My Pillow.
00:31:10.000 It's time to start getting the quality sleep you deserve.
00:31:13.000 Go to mypillow.com and use promo code Kirk or call 800-875-0425.
00:31:20.000 That's mypillow.com, promo code Kirk.
00:31:22.000 Receive this amazing offer on the queen-size MyPillow.
00:31:25.000 Let's support my friend Mike Lindell, mypillow.com, promo code Kirk.
00:31:29.000 It's mypillow.com, promo code Kirk.
00:31:34.000 Will Sharf is running for Attorney General of the amazing, beautiful, and great state of Missouri.
00:31:39.000 So, Will, help me understand.
00:31:41.000 Again, you were a DOJ prosecutor.
00:31:44.000 Have you ever experienced somebody calling a clerk for a judge and lying about their identity to get an amicus brief filed, let alone Latham Watkins doing this?
00:31:57.000 Yeah, you know, Charlie, this story, it's not just irregular, it's insane.
00:32:03.000 For your viewers who may not be following it as closely as we are, the other night, the night before last, what happened was this.
00:32:12.000 The House Ways and Means Committee filed an amicus brief in Hunter Biden's case that included their investigative report into Hunter Biden.
00:32:21.000 That's their full investigation into Hunter's various activities abroad, the money laundering, the stuff with burisma, the Chinese connections, all of that.
00:32:31.000 And they wanted that on the record in court.
00:32:33.000 So instead of attempting to negotiate with the House Ways and Means Committee, a lawyer associated with Hunter Biden's legal team called the clerk's office, the people who run the district court in Delaware, apparently misrepresented themselves, said that they were working with the lawyer for the House Ways and Means Committee, and asked that the filing that they'd made just be pulled off the docket entirely.
00:33:03.000 And the clerk's office did that.
00:33:05.000 Now, the whole thing blew up in their face.
00:33:07.000 Judge Norieka issued what's called a show cause order, basically threatening to hold Hunter Biden's legal team in contempt of court for their actions unless they could explain things, which I don't see how they can.
00:33:21.000 But it's such a weird turn of events and it's such a weird course of action.
00:33:26.000 It's weird.
00:33:27.000 It's just like, I mean, this whole week has been weird.
00:33:30.000 UFO hearings, you got Mitch McConnell like short-circuiting.
00:33:33.000 You got like dead chefs in Martha's Vineyard.
00:33:36.000 This whole week is just bizarre.
00:33:37.000 This one, I think, takes the top billing, Will.
00:33:40.000 I mean, it's just you call and you lie.
00:33:43.000 And by the way, it's an amicus brief.
00:33:44.000 This is, I mean, it's not, it's not the biggest deal in front of you, right?
00:33:49.000 I mean, anyone can submit amicus briefs, from what I understand from a layman's perspective.
00:33:54.000 You know, I think what it was is they were so desperate to keep negative information about Hunter off the public docket here.
00:33:54.000 Sure.
00:34:02.000 They were so desperate to pretend that this case, oh, it was just about a few minor tax violations and the gun charge, as opposed to being something much bigger, that they were willing to go to just crazy ends to try to keep those documents off of the docket here.
00:34:20.000 Unfortunately, they got caught.
00:34:22.000 Fortunately, it seems like court personnel weren't willing to back down and have stood by what they said happened.
00:34:30.000 And I think there's going to be a reckoning in the form of a hearing and potential follow-up, either criminal or civil against these lawyers for what they did.
00:34:40.000 But to me, it's just insane.
00:34:42.000 The idea that you would ever call a court clerk, court personnel, and misrepresent who you are, the conversations you've had, who you're representing.
00:34:51.000 It's just so far beyond the pale.
00:34:53.000 It speaks to the wild irregularity of this case and the ends that Hunter Biden's team are willing to go in order to protect this guy from what I believe are his just dessert.
00:35:06.000 And they tried to lie about what they did too.
00:35:09.000 Here's my opinion.
00:35:11.000 They operate with such impunity.
00:35:12.000 They think they're untouchable.
00:35:14.000 They act as if they're untouchable, as if they could do whatever they want.
00:35:18.000 And again, this is Latham Watkins, blue chip AAA law firm, right?
00:35:22.000 Will, this is not just, this is not Better Call Solve from Albuquerque, New Mexico.
00:35:28.000 That's exactly right.
00:35:29.000 And that's one of the things that makes this so shocking.
00:35:32.000 But I think more generally, it speaks to this two-tiered system of justice we've seen developing really since the start of the Biden administration, where Biden and his family members and their friends get one level of justice.
00:35:46.000 And conservatives, whether it's President Trump or whether it's parents showing up aggravated to school board meetings or whether it's Catholic charities, get subjected to a totally different form of justice.
00:35:58.000 Justice is supposed to be justice for anyone, for everyone.
00:36:02.000 There's supposed to be an even-handed application of the law.
00:36:05.000 But time and time again, we've seen a very different set of rules being applied to Biden and his family.
00:36:12.000 And that's just outrageous.
00:36:14.000 I mean, if history has any precedent, this person who called and lied will probably get an award from the American Bar Association.
00:36:20.000 They should be disbarred and they should be held criminally accountable.
00:36:24.000 You cannot allow people to call a clerk's office and lie, which very well could impact criminal proceedings and trials.
00:36:31.000 I've asked 10 different lawyers, Will.
00:36:34.000 They've never heard anything like this, ever.
00:36:35.000 Like, this is so unconscionable.
00:36:38.000 It's a violation of just like sacred procedure of our system.
00:36:42.000 But of course, this is what the left does.
00:36:44.000 They profane anything holy, anything sacred.
00:36:47.000 They're entitled.
00:36:48.000 They're narcissistic.
00:36:49.000 And they're desperate.
00:36:51.000 You do not do this if you're confident things are going to go your way.
00:36:53.000 Will, we're out of time.
00:36:54.000 We'll have you back on soon.
00:36:56.000 Thanks a lot, Charlie.
00:36:58.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:36:59.000 Email us your thoughts is always freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:37:02.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
00:37:06.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.