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00:01:47.000While you were probably having an enjoyable weekend, you might have missed the fact that Joe Biden might have communicated one of the most clear and one of the actually anything but clear, one of the biggest foreign policy blunders of the last 30 to 40 years.
00:02:06.000Joe Biden went to Europe and he went to hopefully try to unite the NATO countries and to try to bring forth some form of peace.
00:02:16.000But instead, Biden did the exact opposite.
00:02:55.000Valerie Jarrett, whoever's doing the handling of Joe Biden, they need to make sure that he no longer is able to speak publicly because he did exactly what Putin would want him to do this weekend.
00:03:23.000Now, we've talked a lot about the dangers of regime change.
00:03:27.000We've talked about a lot on this program how when the United States is involved in regime change, more times than not, there are issues, power vacuums that follow, then there is actual stability.
00:03:43.000That when you remove Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, for example, you get slave markets, you get civil war, you get a fracturing of a country.
00:03:52.000Now, no one in their right mind was a fan of Muammar Gaddafi.
00:04:10.000You see, Libya is a great example for the playground that is the United States State Department.
00:04:18.000Hillary Clinton even bragged about her involvement in Libya.
00:04:22.000She thought it was a wonderful accomplishment.
00:04:24.000Iran is largely run by evil theocratic tyrants because of the United States involving ourselves in the displacement of Mossagh Day and the implementation of the Shah, which then led to the Islamic Revolution to remove the Shah because the Iranian people felt as if Western influence was coming into their country.
00:04:43.000And the Iranian example is a really good one.
00:04:46.000The Iranian example is because when the West involves themselves in foreign policy, when the West involves themselves in other countries' affairs, you better do it right.
00:04:57.000And you must be very careful because any misstep will be used as a rallying cry and a call for a consolidation of power domestically from other tyrants.
00:05:08.000So let's listen to what Joe Biden said this last weekend in the last couple of hours that is setting the world ablaze.
00:05:17.000We will have a different future, a brighter future rooted in democracy and principles, hope and light, of decency and dignity, of freedom and possibilities.
00:05:25.000For God's sake, this man cannot remain in power.
00:05:46.000Well, Putin couldn't have asked for a better equation.
00:05:48.000Putin could not have asked for a better one-liner.
00:05:52.000That has now been cut and put all over domestic Russian propaganda television, where he says, see, the West wants to do us exactly what they did to Qaddafi.
00:06:01.000You see, the West wants to do us what they try to do to Assad.
00:06:03.000You see, the West wants to do us exactly what they did to Hussein.
00:06:07.000You see, the West wants to do us exactly what they did to Iran.
00:06:20.000Unfortunately, the message is confused, which is why President Biden, I think, kind of worked himself up in this speech, and then he made a comment that he did.
00:06:30.000President Biden also made the gaffe about sending the 82nd airborne into Ukraine, which we're not doing.
00:06:35.000And he also said that the United States would respond in kind if there was a chemical weapons attack on the part of Russia.
00:06:40.000So this really was, it was not a good, I think, trip for the president because the three big gaffes really are at cross purposes with the overall message from this administration.
00:06:50.000Instead of trying to actually broker peace, Joe Biden is actually getting us closer to war.
00:06:56.000His inability to say a coherent sentence is now a national security issue.
00:07:00.000So we make fun of his ever-increasing dementia.
00:07:29.000With regard to the President's incredibly powerful speech yesterday, I think the President, the White House, made the point last night that, quite simply, President Putin cannot be empowered to wage war or engage in aggression against Ukraine or anyone else.
00:07:50.000As you know, and as you've heard us say repeatedly, we do not have a strategy of regime change in Russia or anywhere else for that matter.
00:08:13.000The question is, should you change them?
00:08:15.000And what happens when you do change them?
00:08:17.000When you do change them, you create an inexplicable vacuum and sometimes a vacuum that cannot be filled by normal or otherwise stable forces.
00:08:27.000So Biden went to Europe and Putin became more powerful.
00:09:04.000He's worried about a domestic backlash with the currency, the ruble, completely deteriorating.
00:09:12.000You see, Putin is worried that oligarchs and people will time up together and mobilize forcefully against Putin's reign.
00:09:21.000So now Putin is able to say, see, the one thing we can all agree on, oligarchs, peasants in the St. Petersburg area or the eastern part of Siberia, the one thing we can all agree is that we don't want the West to tell us how to live our life.
00:09:40.000Joe Biden just sent a power wire transfer directly to Putin.
00:09:48.000Joe Biden just made Vladimir Putin dictator for life.
00:09:52.000That clip right there from the mouth of Joe Biden is more than just saying we're going to sanction Russia, that we're going to oppose them.
00:09:59.000No, no, instead, it's he's got to be removed.
00:10:02.000Biden went to Europe and Putin became more powerful.
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00:11:30.000So if we were serious about actually brokering peace, we wouldn't have this joke of a president going to Europe and saying that we need to have a regime change.
00:11:41.000Now the entire administration is in complete fallout mode there.
00:11:45.000Of course, this is a backtrack from what Jen Psaki said in Cut 11.
00:11:49.000But first, here's a montage of congressmen and people on television ripping Biden's speech.
00:11:55.000By saying that, that regime change is our strategy effectively, it plays into the hands of the Russian propagandists and plays into the hands of Vladimir Putin.
00:12:05.000It strengthens Putin at home, makes it difficult for any domestic opposition to coalesce together.
00:12:11.000I wouldn't use those terms because I continue to speak to President Putin.
00:12:15.000Because what do we want to do collectively?
00:12:17.000We want to stop the war that Russia launched in Ukraine without waging war and without escalation.
00:12:37.000You might not agree with the invasion of Ukraine, but we all agree that the West is the enemy.
00:12:45.000You see, what Joe Biden doesn't understand, and this is the problem because people say, well, Charlie, we can't go after his mental decline.
00:12:52.000Well, yeah, when you give him a microphone and he goes to Europe, then all of a sudden his mental decline becomes an international security issue.
00:12:58.000So that one 13-second clip, that singular sentence where he says, look, we just need to get rid of him.
00:13:07.000Outwardly calling for the regime change of one of the most powerful countries on the planet, especially one that is invading another country that you allegedly want to support.
00:13:19.000So if you actually want the sanctions to work, if you actually want this kind of stranglehold on Russia to be effective, you would say the opposite, actually.
00:13:32.000You would say, look, Putin, he's kind of a joke.
00:13:37.000Putin's actually not that strong of a person.
00:13:40.000We'll see what the people end up deciding.
00:13:42.000That would have been incredibly destabilizing of Vladimir Putin.
00:13:48.000It would have been destabilizing if Biden would have underplayed Putin.
00:13:52.000Do you see the way that they're able to communicate that is say, we in the Putin regime are such a threat to the West that they have to make a special trip to Europe and call for our displacement, especially after the track record of Western influence that has happened in the last couple of years.
00:14:11.000And so, but this is a complete contradiction, of course, to what Jen Psaki said back on March 4th, where she said, look, we're not going to tell anyone that they have to be removed from power.
00:14:22.000Regime change is not a policy of this administration.
00:14:36.000That is not the position of the United States government, and certainly not a statement you'd hear come from the mouth of anybody working in this administration.
00:14:43.000No, we are not advocating for killing the leader of a foreign country or regime change.
00:14:48.000That is not the policy of the United States.
00:14:50.000For God's sake, this man cannot remain in power.
00:14:55.000It certainly is the policy now of this administration, and the consequences of this are severe.
00:15:01.000The consequences are you're making Vladimir Putin dictator for life.
00:15:05.000Now, are we pursuing a policy of Russian roulette with Russia?
00:18:51.000The left hates comedy because comedy is rooted in truth, saying things that you know are true that you might not have thought of that are right in front of you.
00:18:59.000And so Babylon Bee tweeted out something about Ricardo Levine, who is the four-star admiral in the Navy that Joe Biden appointed.
00:20:36.000And we're certainly not going to say that two and two make five here so that we can get back in Twitter's good graces.
00:20:43.000So I'm sure you agree with us that that's a good reason to, as good a reason as any to take a stand.
00:20:49.000So it says violating our rules against hateful conduct.
00:20:52.000You may not promote violence against, threaten, harass other people, other or harass other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, or serious disease.
00:21:04.000Funny, I get harassed of those things all the time on Twitter.
00:21:07.000And people don't get banned, but whatever.
00:21:44.000Do you think Twitter's going to respond to our appeals or are we just never going to get back on Twitter?
00:21:51.000We may never get back on Twitter, but my comment on that is then so be it.
00:21:57.000I mean, I think you want me to comment on the importance of this or like what or why, you know, why this is why this is necessary, why we feel this is like a hill to die on.
00:22:06.000I mean, if we can, if everybody just simply rolls over and does whatever Twitter wants and engages in this kind of like reality denial where we all have to use the language they want us to use, affirm the things they want us to affirm, refuse to deny things that we wish to deny, then we're just handing them power that they shouldn't have over us.
00:22:29.000We're giving them more power than they should have over us.
00:22:32.000And so I think that Twitter will face, if they eventually get to the point where they're asking people to say and believe or not say what they believe, things that are just so outrageous and outlandish and insane that people in large numbers finally say, you know, no, we're not going along with this.
00:22:54.000We're not going to abide by your rules.
00:22:56.000Twitter is going to ban themselves into irrelevance at some point.
00:23:00.000But unless and until somebody takes a stand, a bold stand, somebody with a following that's got some influence, people aren't going to be emboldened to follow suit.
00:23:09.000And I think that once you get one person that stands up, another might feel a little emboldened to do it.
00:23:37.000So Dan Bongino tweeted out my tweet as well, and he hasn't been banned.
00:23:40.000So Twitter is, in some ways, they don't want to escalate this further.
00:23:44.000They don't want to draw more attention to it.
00:23:46.000It seems as if they are fine with you and I not being on Twitter, fine with Tucker, but are they really willing to purge the entire conservative movement?
00:23:55.000And so there's now rumblings that someone you know that has come on your podcast, the world's wealthiest man, Elon Musk, very well might be starting his own social media site.
00:24:10.000So he's like, he's gone on the record saying that he's that he's exploring this very seriously, this idea of potentially either, well, I mean, what he was, the specific question that he was dealing with in his Twitter poll was, is Twitter committed to free speech?
00:24:27.000And he was telling people, you know, the results of this poll are going to have important consequences.
00:24:31.000So I'm going to act on the basis of the results of this poll.
00:24:34.000And 70% of people said, no, Twitter is not dedicated to free speech.
00:24:57.000So, you know, I don't think he doesn't just go to the public with stuff like this lightly.
00:25:00.000I'm sure there's things that he's like toyed with the idea of doing something and then didn't do it.
00:25:06.000I think he even thought about making a candy company at one point and then didn't end up going forward with that.
00:25:12.000But, you know, he's, I think, I think speech, he's called himself a free speech absolutist, which I love.
00:25:18.000And if it really matters to him that much and he feels it's that important for the health of our society, of our democracy that we have free expression, then who knows?
00:25:28.000He may take action here and try to do something.
00:25:30.000I just have questions about, you know, how effective these alternative platforms can be.
00:25:35.000So yeah, what would that potentially, I mean, Elon could buy Twitter based on the market cap right now.
00:25:40.000I mean, it would probably be the share price would skyrocket, right?
00:25:44.000But I suppose, I mean, there's Truth Social coming out.
00:26:40.000They really love censorship of views that they disagree with because they consider words that they disagree with to be violence and they have to do away with that.
00:26:48.000So even if Musk were to do something that was more like politically central or neutral and that wasn't like a conservative haven or pitched that way to the public, he would still have this problem of he's pursuing a free speech platform.
00:27:02.000And leftists aren't going to leave Twitter in droves for a free speech platform when they want heavy-handed censorship.
00:27:07.000So in my mind, you know, there is some sensibility, I think, to the possibility of Trump taking over Twitter.
00:27:30.000They would have to go start their own censorship-heavy platform, and they would have to decide whether they wanted to flee.
00:27:37.000They'd be in the position that conservatives are in now, being on a platform that doesn't want them there.
00:27:42.000Leftists would be on a platform that they don't want any part in, and they would have to decide do they want to leave it and to create a new one.
00:27:49.000I don't know if an alternative is ever really going to get off the ground and chip away at the market share of these major companies that have tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of daily active users and function as the public square of the modern age.
00:28:03.000Just talk about the success your website is having, BabylonB.com.
00:28:07.000I mean, it's hard to kind of distinguish some of the headlines from reality, which I think is why, you know, it's so successful.
00:28:14.000For example, Are You a Woman? 12 Signs to Look For, BabylonBee.com.
00:28:51.000Well, I mean, the success, this idea that, you know, these, this, these headlines are so believable.
00:28:57.000I mean, that's true, but I think that's, I think that this is a point I often make is that's that's definitely an indictment of reality, right?
00:29:04.000Reality is too close to satire, not the other way around.
00:29:07.000And when we make a joke about CNN praising the Taliban for responsibly wearing masks, the reason that that goes viral and that so many people share it and so many people think it's funny is because that's it's it's great commentary on CNN and their bias.
00:29:23.000It's because of their track record that that joke lands and that it and that it's really funny.
00:29:27.000But it's believable also because of their track record.
00:29:30.000And that's why, you know, sometimes there's some confusion and our stories have to get fact-checked and rated false before you buy into this dangerous misinformation.
00:29:38.000But yeah, we've seen a tremendous amount of success because I think one of the reasons, honestly, why I feel like we're being so successful right now is because we're doing something that a lot of comedians today aren't willing to do.
00:29:49.000Instead of promoting the popular narrative, we're poking holes in it.
00:29:52.000And that's what comedians are supposed to do.
00:30:04.000Are these people hypocrites that are pushing this stuff on us?
00:30:07.000You know, the comedian is supposed to examine that stuff and challenge that stuff and do it in a lighthearted way, in a fun way, but that exposes and points to the truth.
00:30:16.000And a lot of comedians are just interested in promoting the popular narrative instead of poking holes in it.
00:30:21.000So comedians who are willing to challenge the narrative are going to get a huge audience because that's what real comedy does.
00:30:27.000So if we're doing that effectively, that's the reason that we're growing.
00:30:52.000Let's play cut 13 here of the CEO of Twitter, Parag Agarwal, during a 2020 speech saying, quote, our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment.
00:31:05.000Our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment, but our role is to serve a healthy public conversation.
00:31:12.000And our moves are reflective of things that we believe lead to a healthier public conversation.
00:31:19.000The kinds of things that we do to work about this is to focus less on thinking about free speech, but thinking about how the times have changed.
00:31:30.000One of the changes today that we see is speech is easy on the internet.
00:31:44.000They're going to decide who can be heard.
00:31:47.000You know, Twitter has held themselves out there.
00:31:49.000Even if even if they're, you can read their hateful conduct policy.
00:31:52.000I'm going to read like a little brief section of this real quick, right above where we supposedly you and I violated this policy.
00:31:58.000It says that Twitter's mission is to give everyone the power to create and share ideas and information and to express their opinions and beliefs without barriers.
00:32:08.000We believe that everyone has a voice and the right to use it.
00:32:11.000Our role is to serve the public conversation, which requires representation of a diverse range of perspectives.
00:32:17.000That sounds like a ringing tribute to free expression right there.
00:32:20.000I mean, it sounds like they're all about free speech.
00:32:23.000But then when you actually dig down into their terms of service, you know, they have these policies that are based on like an ideology, a very progressive ideology that most people don't even agree with.
00:32:33.000The majority of Americans don't agree with it, but it's baked into the terms of service.
00:32:38.000So you have to agree with it in order to use the platform.
00:32:41.000So on the one hand, they're saying, you know, what they're giving with one hand, they're taking away with the other and saying that this is a free speech place.
00:32:48.000We want everyone to express their ideas and be free to express their ideas.
00:32:52.000But then with the other hand, they take that away and say, oh, but your ideas have to line up with our extremely radical progressive ideology.
00:33:48.000I mean, they're pretty fired up about it too.
00:33:50.000You know, I know people like Rogan are supportive of us, both of us for taking a stand and not backing down.
00:33:57.000You know, they're not necessarily, these are not necessarily conservatives, but yeah, they value freedom and they don't like to see people's freedom being trampled on.
00:34:06.000And I think that's an that's that's an important thing to unify around.
00:34:09.000You know, if we can't agree on everything as conservatives, well, at least if we're unifying around freedom, then we have the right to disagree with each other on those other things.
00:34:18.000And so, you know, I'm happy to lock hands or walk in lockstep with people who value freedom like that.
00:34:25.000I'm honored to share a Twitter jail cell with you.
00:34:27.000I think it's very noble of you and very brave of you to be taking a stand on this.
00:34:31.000I mean, look, you and I both stand to gain a lot by being on Twitter.
00:35:11.000Yes, we should have broke up these companies a long time ago.
00:35:13.000We should have had, I think, you know, much more robust free speech protections for any sort of company that has 50 to 100 million plus users.
00:35:22.000I mean, that's not the same free speech protections for like a local bowling club, right?