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00:00:59.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:47.000It was a huge, it was a huge comfort and a blessing because I made so many friends like getting involved with them that they're going to be my friends, I know, for even after Turning Point.
00:01:55.000So when you first get to college, though, is it like, I would imagine it's something like you've got to be careful about disclosing, you know, like, how do you find out, you know, there are other potential conservatives there and you're not alone?
00:02:06.000I think it's kind of, it's, it's difficult at times because you show up to a college campus and you have, you know, professors who are very outspoken on what they believe and then students who are.
00:02:16.000And so I think conservative, I guess, minded people that are especially young in our generation is, they don't want to say.
00:02:23.000And so it's just a matter of living your beliefs enough that people come to you.
00:02:28.000How did you find, like, were you afraid to tell your roommate, to tell a teacher?
00:02:32.000Like, did you ever, have you yet had to write a paper in which it was going to be clear you were not a lefty?
00:02:38.000So I'm actually in nursing school at my, at my university.
00:02:41.000So it's a little tricky navigating, you know, various topics like the facts and all that.
00:02:47.000So I have found quite a few people that agree with me on a lot of it, which has been really comforting.
00:02:52.000I'm not totally sure where they align politically because I don't really talk about it, but it's not something I'm hiding, but it's also not something I'm openly bringing up.
00:03:00.000In nursing school, are you already getting the pressure of like, don't ask somebody what their gender is, you know, all that stuff?
00:03:12.000And we have, it's actually funny when we look at charts, we're like treating some older people and it'll be like an 85-year-old woman and it'll say what their pronouns are.
00:03:20.000And I'm like, this lady, you never asked this lady.
00:03:23.000Like, she doesn't even know what you're talking about.
00:03:26.000Do you guys feel like your life would be easier if you were a liberal or a left-winger as far as like acceptability of friends, grades, treatment from peers?
00:03:35.000I mean, we see on campus all the time when I went in as a freshman, I had one of my suite mates come back who had discussed politics with me before and said, you know, my parents are conservative.
00:04:01.000When you have a group like this, it is so-I don't really like to use the word empowering, but empowering and inspiring and motivational because you have all these people that you know are on your side and will have your back and will stand for you in any situation.
00:04:15.000So there's nothing really to be scared of.
00:04:17.000These people would never come for you in any way because they only talk behind a screen, really.
00:04:22.000I've only had one instance where professors, like kind of weird.
00:04:25.000So it was my anatomy class, and we spent a whole class period talking about transitioning.
00:04:30.000And we watched like a Bill Nye the Science guy clip of what transgender is and that gender is a spectrum.
00:04:37.000And I'm like, we're in an anatomy class and we're talking about gender ideology.
00:04:42.000And it's like, this is the class where we establish biology and we're still talking about this.
00:04:49.000Like, you know, I know a lot of students I've spoken to wrestle with: do I just go along to get the A so I can get into the best graduate school or get the best job?
00:05:02.000Do I challenge and stand up and say, no, it's not.
00:05:05.000It wasn't a situation where I felt I could raise my hand and be like, what are we doing?
00:05:10.000But I definitely, at my small table, I was like, guys, what is this?
00:05:14.000Like, this is Bill Nye, the science guy, telling me that our genitalia and our biology doesn't determine our gender.
00:05:21.000And they, of course, were like, well, this is all new and fluid.
00:05:25.000And I'm just like, this is an anatomy class.
00:05:27.000Like, we're all going to be healthcare professionals and we don't even know we came to establish gender.
00:05:32.000Do you think amongst many of your classmates that might agree with you, there's a fear that if they speak out, they won't be able to get jobs or advance in their career?
00:05:42.000Like, obviously, as you know, growing up, you always wanted, like, your dream is to go work for some, you know, maybe a Fortune 500 company or just, you know, make a lot of money, right?
00:05:51.000And I think a lot of students see that the only way that they might be able to do that is if they just, you know, be quiet.
00:05:57.000I can admit that to some extent I was brainwashed by the left to believe that separation of church and state are necessary to maintain life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
00:06:09.000Do you guys feel as if there's certain things you've caught yourselves like that or others where you realize that you were using language or behaviors that were not your own, but were imposed upon in like a totalitarian, tyrannical way?
00:06:24.000I mean, I guess sometimes I've had moments where I'm like, I'll be saying, oh, I have to eat their own, like, it doesn't affect me, or just on various things.
00:06:31.000And then I think, I'm like, no, like that's not good for the better of society.
00:06:37.000Like, we have to look out for each other.
00:06:38.000And there's, are there truths and there's morals and ethics?
00:06:41.000And just because it doesn't affect me directly, it will eventually.
00:06:44.000So it's important that we're firm on all across the board all the time.
00:06:49.000Do you guys feel like there's secret rules that you don't know about, but when you violate them, you lose everything?
00:06:53.000Yeah, I think a lot of times, like, you get on social media and you're looking at that, and all of a sudden you see some organization being canceled because they said they said something or they were, or maybe they're getting ridiculed because they used some new term that, like, I feel like there's so many terms now that I don't know what they are.
00:07:09.000And so when I mess up, it's just like get yelled at kind of fixed.
00:07:13.000Or even in the trans lane, it's like assigned male at birth.
00:07:58.000And yet we're devoting all this energy to how it should be done and how early it should be done and how we should all talk about it being done.
00:08:22.000And people are being brainwashed to think, oh, it does make sense because you're not being inclusive all of a sudden because that's the new buzzword is inclusive.
00:08:34.000We see that massive double standard in call everywhere.
00:08:36.000We don't even see it in just colleges in America.
00:08:39.000But you know, I will say the trans issue has crossed over now to a point at which even the left has to be able to hear our argument because it's turned into a woman's rights issue.
00:09:35.000She had so many female athletes in that room who stood up and asked her a question at the end or just asked her advice, saying, I can't say anything about this issue at all because I'm going to get taken off of my student athlete advisory counsel or I'm going to get taken out of my sport.
00:09:52.000Well, let's not forget Riley did not say anything in the beginning.
00:10:14.000Let me ask guys, kind of on the trans issue, do you feel the men that you see on campus, do you think there's a lack of masculinity or do you think there's too much toxic masculinity?
00:11:13.000And so like people, I'll get, I'll get made fun of just because of what I wear.
00:11:16.000But it's like, well, I mean, I don't look like an idiot.
00:11:20.000So do you think that there's a greater penalty or reward if you come out as an alpha or someone high testosterone driven purpose?
00:11:29.000I think all with all the media and the propaganda, it is very centered on, you know, feminizing the man in a way that he fits in.
00:11:37.000And so he doesn't like, because, you know, toxic masculinity, that's been a topic that's, you know, it's discussed all the time on campus, like, oh, right, because you're a white male, like, you're not allowed to speak on certain topics.
00:11:47.000Like, we hear that all the time in different stories.
00:11:50.000So it's if you if you be submissive and weak, then at that point, then you're allowed to speak.
00:12:25.000And, you know, it's empowering to sleep, to use your hated word, with as many guys as you want.
00:12:30.000You have to behave like a man in order to feel like you're equal.
00:12:34.000There was one time we were tabling on campus at Sac State, and there was this girl wearing an Army t-shirt that walks by and she's just yelling at us, all this crazy stuff, and flipping us off across the quad and all this stuff.
00:12:44.000And she says the most vulgar thing about sleeping around.
00:12:47.000Or like, we asked her, we were like, oh, well, thank you for serving in our country, you know, thinking she was in the Army.
00:12:53.000And she said something about how she stole it from the guy she screwed the other day.
00:12:57.000And I was like, it's all just about getting the attention.
00:13:32.000One of my favorite scriptures in the Bible, Isaiah, in the first chapter, he talks about they have forsaken the Lord their God and have gone away backwards.
00:13:38.000I think that wickedness leads to retroaggression.
00:13:40.000And I think that's something we're seeing in our society today.
00:13:43.000Do you ever encounter that in a real way where you have some girl throwing herself at you and wanting to go back that night and you're like, whoa, wrong guy.
00:14:06.000And I guess, you know, my friends say, I don't got game sometimes, so I don't know.
00:14:09.000But you're probably also not putting yourselves in those situations.
00:14:12.000We were talking, Benny was talking about that yesterday, you know, how it's both up to men and women.
00:14:17.000When I was in college, this is a long time ago, as a woman, every place was a place where you'd encounter a man who was like that.
00:14:23.000There was no avoiding men who wanted to sleep with you on the first night.
00:14:27.000You just had to learn skills to effectively avoid that without potentially ruining the relationship, right?
00:14:35.000Whether it's a friend or a budding boyfriend.
00:14:38.000And I really think those are skills you have to develop for life.
00:14:41.000College is a good place to start developing the ability to just laugh it off, like nice try, but not going to be.
00:14:49.000Do you guys even feel men approach women naturally in a way in person, or is it like done through Tinder and like hookup acts?
00:14:56.000I mean, do you feel as if like the normal way of like trying to be charming, even clumsily under inebriation, does that happen as much anymore?
00:15:05.000Or is it just kind of like transactional?
00:15:09.000I have a pretty strong opinion on this, actually.
00:15:13.000I think it's done some, like it's as if a lot of like the women that I like you try to interact with, I think if you approach them in person, like trying to be like more traditional style, it's as if you scare them and they don't.
00:15:26.000So it's like if you don't reach out, if you don't play, you know, the games that exist through a screen, you can't find someone to do it.
00:15:34.000Are you afraid you'll be accused of something?
00:15:36.000Yeah, I think with, I think a lot of times it's like, oh, you just ask him on a date.
00:15:39.000It's like, oh, if we go out somewhere, he's, you know, we live in it, we live in such a crazy world with crazy news stories and everything, right?
00:16:42.000And I remember some of the kids that skipped a year and didn't have that time with other Christians because they don't have good family lives and all that stuff.
00:16:51.000They were so suicidal that year and depressed and all that stuff because they didn't have those interactions with like-minded people.
00:16:58.000And someone almost, they're like this close to killing themselves.
00:17:33.000Well, I think your instincts are dead on to stay away from the fake world as much as possible and live in the real world, whether it's dating or figuring out what other people's lives are and to recognize what you just said, that it's all fake, that all of that is fake news, you know.
00:17:46.000But I do think you are already doing everything right.
00:17:48.000You found like-minded people, you found a home, you're finding your voice notwithstanding the enormous societal pressure on you.
00:17:54.000And I would just encourage you that as you go through school and your beginnings of college, if you find somebody who pressures you to abandon your beliefs, that's a good clue to stay away from them.
00:18:04.000And don't be afraid to stand up to those professors because even if they downgrade you, you can wear that like a badge of honor when you go for your job interviews.