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00:01:37.000David is the AI crypto czar, so we're definitely going to talk about that.
00:01:43.000But first, David, as much as you're able to speak or willing to speak about the developments regarding Ukraine, President Trump, Russia, make sense of what's happening here.
00:01:53.000Well, I think that there's been huge developments on Ukraine.
00:01:56.000I mean, the president has said from the outset, I mean, during his campaign, that he wanted to bring this war to an end, Charlie, and I think that he's in the process of doing that.
00:02:05.000For the first time in, I think, at least three years since the war began, we had a conversation between an American president and the Russian president.
00:02:15.000I mean, that's the first step in getting to some sort of peace agreement is to actually talk to the other side.
00:02:21.000You then had conversations between the delegations from the U.S. and from Russia in Saudi Arabia, and they seem to have made substantial progress.
00:02:31.000And I would say that most of all, the thing that I think has been the biggest breakthrough is just that finally this administration has been willing to tell the truth about how this war started.
00:02:44.000Because you need to understand that in order to bring it to an end.
00:02:48.000And what Secretary of Defense Hegs has said and what Stephen Wyckoff has said is that it was NATO expansion that the Russians saw as a provocation.
00:03:00.000And it was the United States' desire under Joe Biden, their insistence that they had to bring Ukraine into NATO, that was seen as incredibly threatening by the Russians, just the same way that we saw.
00:03:14.000Soviet influence in Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis is incredibly threatening.
00:03:18.000And the United States back in, was it 1962, was willing to go to war to keep the Soviets out of Cuba.
00:03:27.000And in a similar way, the Russians, they telegraphed in advance that this was a red line for them for decades.
00:03:33.000And they said they'd be willing to go to war to prevent Ukraine from becoming a member of NATO. And yet the Biden administration insisted.
00:03:42.000You know, it was widely underreported, but in the first month of this war that started three years ago, that's cost so many lives, there was a deal that was signed, a draft deal that was signed in Istanbul to end the war.
00:03:58.000And all it really required was for Ukraine to agree to be a neutral country.
00:04:02.000And if they had been willing to do that, the war would have ended, there would have been no destruction, and Ukraine would have kept its territories in the eastern part of the country.
00:04:11.000And it was the Biden administration that basically sabotaged that deal.
00:04:15.000And that's why the war has now raged on for three years.
00:04:18.000I'd say upwards of a million people have died.
00:04:21.000The country's never going to be the same.
00:04:23.000And the craziest part of the whole thing is that...
00:04:27.000The Biden administration itself, and Jens Stoltenberg, who was the head of NATO, said at the very end of the Biden administration that Ukraine could not join NATO, would not be joining NATO, because it was unable to win this war.
00:04:41.000So this whole conflict was over nothing.
00:04:44.000We could have just agreed to the thing that everyone understands now, which is Ukraine is not going to be part of NATO, and this whole thing could have been avoided.
00:04:56.000Let's say that if your cause is wearing the Ukrainian pin, which I find to be repulsive and ridiculous, let's say that is you, and you're a lawmaker on Capitol Hill.
00:05:05.000Ironically, if they would have accepted the early peace deal, it would have been far better for the cause of Ukraine's independence, sovereignty, geography that it controls, and lives lost.
00:05:17.000Speak about, David, how early on there was a peace deal on the table.
00:05:21.000Istanbul, Turkey, I know you mentioned this.
00:05:23.000Tony Blinken, Boris Johnson, that if you're one of those virtue signallers that wears the Ukrainian flag pin, even for what they want, that would have been a better deal for everybody involved.
00:07:42.000And I think that, look, we could just allow what is going to happen here to take...
00:07:48.000I mean, if President Trump did nothing, then what's going to happen is that eventually Ukrainian lines are going to collapse under severe pressure and the Russians will just take more of the country.
00:07:59.000But I think that President Trump wants to bring this war to an end.
00:09:08.000A journalist in Ukraine, you have to basically get a license from the government and tow the party line.
00:09:13.000And I would say that the worst part of the whole thing is that there was an American journalist living in Ukraine named Gonzalo Lyra who was arrested trying to flee the country.
00:09:23.000And there is a chilling tape by Gonzalo Lyra where he posted on social media saying, I'm about to be arrested.
00:09:30.000If I'm arrested, I will never see the light of day again.
00:11:56.000I mean, all of us have now experienced You know, ChatGBT or Grok and programs like that where you can ask it questions and it gives you amazing answers.
00:12:42.000It would jeopardize our economy and it could make us militarily less powerful than China.
00:12:49.000And that's not a world we want to live in.
00:12:50.000So I just think that winning this race is absolutely critical and I'm happy to be working for the president to help make that happen.
00:12:57.000Yeah, it has some unbelievable upsides.
00:12:59.000I mean, I use AI all the time, and mostly to be able to analyze data in a very quick, synthesized way.
00:13:05.000It saves me incredible amounts of time, spreadsheets, emails, long-form data.
00:13:12.000So, David, what would you have to say to skeptics?
00:13:15.000That would say AI is going to do nothing but displace people from their jobs and will basically usher in a new unelected technocratic oligarchy.
00:13:26.000Well, I think on the first part, there's just been a lot of doomerism in the media, and the media always loves to take the most pessimistic view of things and scare people.
00:13:35.000I think that there could be some job displacement, but I think the productivity gains will be a lot greater.
00:13:42.000And this will be a tool that ordinary people can use in their work, especially knowledge workers.
00:13:47.000And again, incomes rise with productivity.
00:13:50.000So to the extent that we get productivity tools, it...
00:13:53.000Basically increases economic growth and makes us wealthier.
00:13:57.000So I think that the Doomer case here has just been overstated and focused on too much.
00:14:04.000And I think there's a much more pessimistic way to look at this, which is that this is going to fuel economic growth for the next decade.
00:14:12.000And by the way, the United States is something like $36 trillion in debt.
00:14:17.000If we don't have a big economic boom over the next decade, how are we ever going to pay that debt back?
00:14:22.000I mean, how are we ever going to get out from under this hole?
00:14:34.000You know, this is not the way that technology has evolved throughout history.
00:14:39.000What you see is, yes, the people who do invent the technology benefit, but so do all the consumers of it.
00:14:46.000So do all the businesses that benefit from it downstream.
00:14:49.000And, again, this is just like the creation of the Internet or the Industrial Revolution or the creation of the tractor or something like that.
00:14:59.000There are going to be benefits that are felt throughout the economy, and I do think it's going to ultimately raise the standard of living for all Americans.
00:15:44.000And let me just ask the question, you know, these products have now been on the market for over two years, and we're seeing a rapid evolution in how good they are.
00:15:52.000We see one company leapfrogging in the next, and then the next product comes out.
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00:19:00.000Elbridge Colby is one of the few people in sort of advanced and elite Washington, D.C. circles who has actually been a friend of the Donald Trump program from the very beginning, especially in foreign policy.
00:19:12.000And he's someone who's seen as a threat.
00:19:14.000by a lot of other insiders in Washington, by those who want to see America kind of return to the unsuccessful foreign policy of Joe Biden and Barack Obama and indeed George W. Bush.
00:19:24.000So Bridge Colby is someone who can sort of act as an intellectual axle to bring together these, you know, sort of different components of the machine to advance President Trump's foreign policy and America First foreign policy.
00:19:40.000And there are people who want to prevent that from happening.
00:19:42.000They want to throw spanners in the works, basically, and prevent Colby from being nominated to the number three slot in the Pentagon.
00:19:48.000And they want to, you know, fill the Trump administration to the extent they can with neoconservatives and people who are going to be trying to foil Donald Trump's plans.
00:19:57.000And unfortunately, Senator Tom Cotton has gone along with this to some degree.
00:20:01.000And I have to credit you, Charlie, for being the first person to speak out on X and basically call out Senator Cotton for doing the bidding of people like Bill Kristol.
00:20:09.000Yeah, I didn't win any friends there with Senator Cotton's office, but it was necessary.
00:20:14.000And I think I was polite because it was true.
00:20:21.000The first objection I got is, oh, no, no, Senator Cotton is not delaying it.
00:20:24.000And then, of course, it came out that he was delaying it.
00:20:27.000What exactly does the job that Elbridge Colby will hopefully assume do?
00:20:33.000And can you just take some time here educating the audience?
00:20:36.000They think, okay, just Pete Hegseth, he runs the whole thing.
00:20:38.000This is a massive organization where the power goes into 40 or 50 other buckets that are essential.
00:20:46.000What would Elbridge Colby be tasked with doing?
00:20:49.000Well, he would be the Undersecretary for Policy, which, as the name suggests, is responsible for a lot of the formulation of exactly how America, how our defense apparatus is going to approach other nations around the world.
00:21:03.000And so you can see why there's a great deal of scrutiny being applied to Bridge Colby.
00:21:07.000And, you know, you can also see why people who don't like the president's agenda and don't like what Bridge Colby represents, why they think that if they can sabotage this, they'll actually score a lot of points and be able to...
00:21:18.000To really cripple what Donald Trump's trying to do in reorienting American foreign policy towards America's national interests.
00:21:25.000So it's a critical policymaking, grand strategy kind of position.
00:21:30.000And Bridge Colby's exactly the right person for it.
00:21:32.000And there's an awful lot of pressure, however, being brought to bear sort of behind the scenes.
00:21:36.000There's this whispering campaign against him, putting out all sorts of just nasty rumors because there's no honest case to be made against this gentleman.
00:21:44.000He really is someone who comes from a patriotic family.
00:21:46.000He's someone who has, you know, against sort of withstood all the pressures to conform within Washington.
00:21:52.000And now, you know, the question is, will this whispering campaign now being led perhaps by Senator Cotton succeed in derailing this gentleman who would be a true asset to President Trump's agenda?
00:22:04.000And so more broadly, what do you make of the momentum behind The foreign policy view of this administration.
00:22:14.000It is uniquely different than even Trump won and totally different than Republican Inc.
00:22:21.000Yeah, you know, the difference between Trump 1 and today is that Trump 1 had so many of these disloyal staffers who were able to restrain the president and keep his foreign policy from going in the direction where he wanted to take it.
00:22:33.000President Trump really does have, first of all, an America first view, yes, but also an America's first view.
00:22:38.000He sees the strategic importance of our own hemisphere as being paramount, which is why Secretary Rubio, you know, spent his first trip going to the Caribbean and to Central America.
00:22:47.000It's why we've been talking about Greenland so much.
00:22:50.000We have to defend our own hemisphere, keep the influence of people like China from reaching into our own backyard.
00:22:56.000When it comes to Europe, what's absolutely essential for Europe's own defense is that the Europeans themselves be the primary providers, that they be fully invested not only in terms of the money they spend for the military that they have, but also that they should be willing to be the first line of defense of their own continent and their own borders.
00:23:15.000Right now, they are expecting America to pay for their defense.
00:23:18.000And they're expecting, ultimately, if their borders are attacked by Russia or anyone else, that it's American lives that are going to come out and save them.
00:23:25.000So you've got a Europe that's actually become steadily weaker over the past...
00:23:29.00030 years since the end of the Cold War because of their over-reliance on America and their unwillingness to pony up either the men or the moral commitment in order to defend themselves.
00:23:40.000He would have changed it back between 2016 and 2020, except there were so many people within his own administration, including even in the Defense Department, even in the Secretary of State's offices, that wanted to prevent Trump from going in this direction.
00:23:54.000They wanted to keep America basically with this consensus bipartisan foreign policy.
00:23:58.000We're getting from everyone from George Bush to Barack Obama, ultimately to Joe Biden.
00:24:03.000So Trump is trying to, you know, really reorient our foreign policy for the first time since the end of the Cold War.
00:24:08.000And to do that, he's going to need a team that is loyal to him and that has the right ideas.
00:24:12.000And Bridge Colby is certainly someone who fits that description.
00:24:15.000So I love the America's first perspective and that kind of hemispheric idea that we need to consolidate the hemisphere and...
00:24:25.000And make sure that our adversaries do not have that kind of dominance within.
00:24:30.000What do you have to say, Daniel, to some of the audience's, let's say, concerns, that President Trump is talking like an imperialist?
00:25:05.000The Panama Canal is being very directly influenced right now by China.
00:25:10.000They have a certain economic stake in it, and there's a risk that they're going to have more economic sway and more political sway over the canal, which is absolutely vital to our interests.
00:25:19.000Then with Greenland, right now, America's already basically responsible for providing for Greenland's defense.
00:25:26.000So it's kind of silly that we're paying the price for defending Greenland, but we don't actually have a kind of formal relationship between our nation and Greenland.
00:25:34.000Instead, Greenland is still controlled by Denmark.
00:25:37.000In the long run, however, there's a danger that Greenland, because of its strategic position in the Arctic, is going to be heavily influenced by other powers that want to be involved in Arctic politics.
00:25:47.000And certainly, Russia increasingly looks to the Arctic as a place to expand its power.
00:25:51.000There is a danger that, you know, even though China is not directly in the Arctic, they may want to be able to use their expanding naval power and their expanding financial influence to influence a small, you know, in fact, a tiny country like Greenland.
00:26:04.000Greenland's a huge island, but it's possible.
00:26:06.000Population is only about 50,000 souls or so.
00:26:08.000And so you can see how they could be susceptible to any great power that comes after them, which is why it's very important that America be the great power that is providing for their protection rather than have the Chinese or someone else be able to come in and influence them.
00:26:22.000So all of this is about defending America's national interests.
00:26:25.000It's not about trying to export democracy to far-off lands and transform other cultures into models replicating our own.
00:26:33.000That's the imperial project that America had been embarked on since the end of the Cold War, basically.
00:26:37.000This is instead focusing on America first, which also means focusing on our neighborhood first, and that is the other Americas and the rest of the Western Hemisphere.
00:26:46.000Neocons are known for laying traps or snares or even ambush campaigns on otherwise chugging along administrations.
00:26:55.000You think everything's going fine, and then there's a neocon.
00:27:00.000What should we be looking for from permanent Washington that could potentially derail this administration, get us into another permanent war?
00:27:08.000What are the hot spots that we should be looking at?
00:27:11.000The neocons are really smart, and I point this out in my essay for Comback magazine on why Bridge Colby is so important.
00:27:17.000The neocons realize that if they go to the American public, if they go straight to the voters, the voters won't take them up on the kind of imperial, democracy-promoting agenda that the neocons want to endorse.
00:27:29.000And they also realize that, you know, if you try to elect a pure on, you know, sort of pure neoconservative like Bill Kristol, try to send him to the Senate or, you know, nominate him for president, that's not going to work.
00:27:40.000Recall, Charlie, that back in 2016, Bill Kristol had the lunatic idea that he would get David French to run for president and that David French would somehow be the neocon candidate to stop Donald Trump.
00:27:52.000They can't win elections and they can't serve in office.
00:27:54.000But what the neocons are very clever about doing is instead insinuating themselves into the staff and into the offices of office holders.
00:28:03.000So in other words, you don't have to win elections if you are responsible for the staffing positions of the office holders.
00:28:10.000Because the office holders themselves are often choosing from a menu of policy that has been written up by their staff or that has been sort of spun by ideologues and think tanks and magazines.
00:28:18.000That's where the neocons have a chokehold on American policy and on the American right.
00:28:22.000And that's where they're really concerned they're going to lose that chokehold and that grip if Bridge Colby gets into the Pentagon.
00:28:27.000Daniel, thank you so much for your time.
00:28:30.000How does our audience stay in touch with you and follow you?
00:28:32.000Yeah, you can find me on Twitter at the unusual handle of Tory Anarchist, which is a nice sort of fun phrase I use.
00:28:38.000And then online, you can find me on the internet at www.modernagejournal.com.
00:28:50.000There's a lot of excitement in Washington, D.C. as we start the year, but I wanted to talk to you about something just as exciting happening outside the D.C. Beltway, a revolution in the States.
00:29:02.000It's growing and growing because some states, as they should, are putting parents in charge of the education of their kids.
00:29:09.000Everyone knows education has the power to change a kid's life, and anyone who raised a child knows each has different needs, learning styles, and God-given talents.
00:29:19.000The fact is, parents know their own children best, knows what's best for their development.
00:29:23.000And future education freedom legislation puts parents, not zip codes, and politicians in charge of these important family decisions.
00:29:32.000It's why I strongly support making universal education freedom a reality for every parent in every state.
00:29:39.000To find out where your state legislature stands and to make sure your voice is heard, go to educationfreedomusa.com now, educationfreedomusa.com.
00:29:50.000Okay, here's the very serious question.
00:30:18.000Where it's become really hard to have an intellectual debate with any of these people because the level of stupidity that they are displaying every single day is frankly embarrassing, not just in Congress, but as Americans.
00:30:32.000And the fact that these people are allowed to say just the most ridiculous things tells you that the dumbing of the United States has arrived because how else do we get Trump presidency again?
00:30:46.000Now, we should seriously look into her immigration status.
00:30:49.000I think it would make great headlines if Trump deported a member of Congress.
00:32:21.000There are so many chats that we have where we are talking about what we're going to do and we're talking about what we are doing.
00:32:27.000But a matter of amplifying those things is a lot more difficult.
00:32:31.000And I think that it's important that those of us that sit in Congress have to figure out what is really the best way for us to communicate.
00:32:39.000And we've got to settle into that and recognize that not everyone's going to sit on a podcast.
00:32:43.000Not everyone's going to be social media savvy, but they are going to have to find their communication lane.
00:32:50.000And so I do think that it is something that we struggle with.
00:32:53.000We know right now we obviously have X is owned by Elon.
00:32:57.000We've also got, you know, the other news network that I won't name and some other things.
00:33:01.000So there's an actual ecosystem that pumps out this disinformation consistently on behalf of them.