The Charlie Kirk Show - How Smartphones are Strangling the Soul of America

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00:00:17.000 Hey, everybody.

00:00:17.000 I recently went to North Dakota.

00:00:19.000 Great people up there.

00:00:21.000 And I had probably one of the most provocative conversations on why I think these smartphones are destroying our humanity.

00:00:28.000 I talk about other things as well.

00:00:29.000 I make a case for life.

00:00:30.000 I take questions.

00:00:31.000 And I'm interviewed by a good man, Chris Berg, in North Dakota.

00:00:35.000 And we have a great conversation.

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00:00:41.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:00:44.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:45.000 Here we go.

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00:02:17.000 Well, this is awesome.

00:02:19.000 Thank you, guys.

00:02:20.000 Thank you.

00:02:20.000 Please sit down.

00:02:21.000 I wanted to talk for a couple minutes and then we're going to have a fun conversation.

00:02:25.000 But first, let me just say, isn't it nice to be in person together at an event?

00:02:33.000 This is terrific.

00:02:34.000 I love the state of North Dakota.

00:02:36.000 You know, I travel the country to college campuses, so you don't have to.

00:02:40.000 And is that Teddy Roosevelt?

00:02:43.000 How you doing, man?

00:02:43.000 Good to see you.

00:02:44.000 I think the last time I saw you was literally at Mount Rushmore.

00:02:49.000 And so it's nice to be in a state that actually loves America and mostly.

00:02:55.000 And it's very rare, actually, unfortunately.

00:03:00.000 So, no, we're going to have some fun tonight.

00:03:02.000 And for those of you that don't know, I'm born and raised in Chicago, Illinois, Illinois.

00:03:06.000 It's a good place to be from.

00:03:08.000 And unlike most states, Illinois has term limits, but it's a different type of term limits.

00:03:13.000 It's one term in office, one term in jail.

00:03:16.000 And so when we ask for our governor's cell number, we actually mean his cell number.

00:03:25.000 One more. 0.98

00:03:26.000 My grandmother was a lifelong Republican from the north side of Chicago.

00:03:29.000 She passed away in the mid-1990s, and she's been voting Democrat ever since.

00:03:34.000 So promise that's it.

00:03:38.000 No, it's been an amazing journey.

00:03:41.000 I've been at this for nine and a half, eight and a half years, nine years in June.

00:03:44.000 I did this instead of going to college.

00:03:46.000 I took a gap year.

00:03:47.000 It's been eight and a half gap years of traveling the country.

00:03:51.000 And I was trying to make the argument back then, and it's more applicable today than ever before, that if we do not take decisive and dramatic action, we're going to lose this gift that we have been given, this constitutional republic of the people and for the people.

00:04:05.000 And it is a gift because generations before us sacrificed for what we enjoy today, or what we should be enjoying today.

00:04:13.000 And so what gives me hope is gatherings like this.

00:04:16.000 And I know that there's a lot of people here that have been open critics of what I consider to be the worst mistake in American history, which is what we did to ourselves, which is the lockdowns.

00:04:28.000 The lockdowns will go down as the worst mistake in American history, and we should never lock down our country again.

00:04:36.000 Ever.

00:04:39.000 Now, let me be very clear.

00:04:43.000 And I prefer clarity over agreement, as the great Dennis Prager says.

00:04:47.000 The virus is a very real thing, and it's especially a very real threat for certain people in the American population.

00:04:53.000 There's all sorts of threats, though, to humanity and human beings.

00:04:57.000 And you must have a really good reason to want to shut down the entire American economy, mandate masks.

00:05:04.000 We'll get to that in a second. 0.73

00:05:05.000 Shut down all of our schools and micromanage human behavior.

00:05:10.000 And if all of a sudden you're losing more young people to suicide than to the Chinese coronavirus, which is what happened in California, then all of a sudden that's a government-inflicted trauma on its own citizens.

00:05:23.000 That's government coming in and saying, we know what is best for you, and we are going to micromanage every single one of your decisions, forgetting this idea of American liberty, especially when we had churches being closed across the country and Planned Parenthoods remaining open.

00:05:38.000 When if you just wanted to be able to assemble, I guess we could say this is a peaceful protest or whatever they're going to say in Minnesota.

00:05:45.000 You know, yeah, the buildings are burning, but it's a mostly peaceful protest here, you know, in Minneapolis.

00:05:50.000 That was perfectly fine.

00:05:52.000 And what it really showed me more than anything else over the last year is how fragile our freedoms are.

00:06:00.000 It's very important to recognize government does not give us our freedoms.

00:06:03.000 This is something that we don't do a good enough job of teaching our young people.

00:06:07.000 Our freedoms are natural.

00:06:08.000 They come from our Creator because we are made in his image.

00:06:12.000 Our rights come from God, not from government.

00:06:17.000 And for the first time in American history, we decided to give away all those freedoms and liberties by a group of people that said they were trying to keep us safe.

00:06:30.000 And so there's a whole new kind of weird, strange cable expert that came expert, that came, cable news expert that came onto the scene, these medical experts that have been wrong about everything.

00:06:40.000 And Dr. Fauci should have been fired the first time he opened his mouth.

00:06:43.000 He's been wrong about everything.

00:06:46.000 And what we have found, what we have found is the states that locked down actually are in a worse position than the states that opened up their economy fully in May, like Florida that had open restaurants and open schools and opened small businesses in May versus California.

00:07:06.000 Florida has a much older population than California, yet their death rate and their virus rate is lower.

00:07:16.000 They have a lower rate of mental health issues, alcoholism, drug usage, higher small business rate.

00:07:21.000 We've lost 40% of our small businesses over the last year.

00:07:24.000 And so if you wanted to get Jeff Bezos richer, well, then of course you're going to lock down the American economy because all of us then go straight to our smartphones and our devices and we start ordering packages instead of going to the local carpenter, going to the local convenience store.

00:07:40.000 If you wanted to make America's ruling class, who hate you, by the way, they actually hate the values of North Dakota.

00:07:45.000 And this is the first time in our country's history where the richest people actually have contempt for the people that got them rich.

00:07:52.000 I want you to think about that deeply.

00:07:54.000 I'm a big fan of Teddy Roosevelt, which is somewhat controversial in Republican circles because I don't think they understand Teddy Roosevelt.

00:08:00.000 But I'm a big fan of Teddy Roosevelt.

00:08:01.000 But even the people that Teddy Roosevelt went after, the trust-busting that he did, Andrew Carnegie, Mellon, J.P. Morgan, they loved their country.

00:08:11.000 The industrialists back in the early 1900s, they might have had too much power and influence, but they were Americans.

00:08:18.000 I cannot say that about our tech companies right now.

00:08:20.000 I cannot say that about Bill Gates.

00:08:22.000 I cannot say that about Jeff Bezos.

00:08:24.000 I cannot say that about the people that run these companies that have made literally hundreds of billions of dollars.

00:08:31.000 In fact, it's the opposite.

00:08:33.000 In fact, the people that run our big companies, Delta, that run major league baseball and Coca-Cola, they have contempt for you.

00:08:40.000 And this is what I call down, this is what I call a top-down revolution, which is a small group of people that are preemptively striking you.

00:08:49.000 People in the heartland, you understand they're obsessed with you, right?

00:08:53.000 You have people that are worth $100 billion that could take a plane to anywhere on the planet, that can eat any food that they desire, that could drink anything at any time.

00:09:03.000 They have real power, but yet they continually comment that the real problem in America is not Jeff Bezos and $165 billion he has. 0.76

00:09:12.000 No, it's the Christian welder in North Dakota.

00:09:14.000 That's the problem. 1.00

00:09:16.000 And we have to do everything we can to crush that person.

00:09:18.000 No, it's the person that's working in an oil rig in western North Dakota.

00:09:22.000 That's the problem.

00:09:23.000 And this is a top-down revolution, and it's happening in real time, where the most powerful people, instead of trying to govern our country and try to pass down something at least somewhat healthy to the next generation, they're saying, you know what?

00:09:36.000 We're going to strike the people before they get angry that we have stole so much from them.

00:09:41.000 And that's a very unprecedented cycle of events.

00:09:46.000 And so we go back to these lockdowns.

00:09:47.000 The lockdowns only made this worse.

00:09:50.000 The lockdowns made the wealthiest people in America wealthier than any other time in human history, even wealthier than when Teddy Roosevelt was president, which is really hard to believe.

00:09:59.000 It also did nothing for health at all whatsoever.

00:10:04.000 Now, two weeks of lockdowns, I understand.

00:10:06.000 You're trying to figure out what you're dealing with.

00:10:08.000 You're waiting for the data.

00:10:09.000 I sympathize with that.

00:10:10.000 But then you go into June, you go into July, you go into August, you go into the fall, you go into the winter, and they took Christmas and Easter from us, by the way.

00:10:19.000 And we're supposed to believe this is all under the guise of public health.

00:10:24.000 I said this back in May, and I'm going to say it again.

00:10:25.000 This is a social conditioning exercise, and we are failing it.

00:10:30.000 This is about control.

00:10:31.000 This is not about health.

00:10:34.000 So what's the proper way we can go about doing this?

00:10:37.000 And again, I actually have a rule.

00:10:38.000 I try not to weigh in on local politics.

00:10:40.000 I really don't because I don't live here.

00:10:42.000 And the same way I don't like Americans trying to go weigh in on foreign countries politics unless you really know the issue.

00:10:49.000 But from what I understand, there is a bill that has passed through the House and the Senate that would remove a mask mandate.

00:10:55.000 And that's at least what I understand.

00:10:58.000 And if that is true, then the governor should sign that bill.

00:11:04.000 And that's as far as I'm going to weigh in on that.

00:11:06.000 And so, again, there might be more complications on that.

00:11:10.000 So again, I only say that because this idea that we're going to use, we're now going to require you to go wear a piece of cloth over your mouth because we are now in control.

00:11:23.000 I thought it was my body, my choice, first of all, from all the collectivists.

00:11:26.000 Secondly, there's, and if you believe masks work, then so be it.

00:11:30.000 I'm mask agnostic, meaning it comes from a Greek word agnosis, which without knowledge, if you believe they work, then go ahead, do it.

00:11:38.000 But you're all of a sudden going to force people to wear them, then that's a violation of their individual liberty and their sovereignty.

00:11:45.000 And it's against what I, people say, Charlie, what does it mean to be a conservative today?

00:11:50.000 I said, it really means this, is that our agenda is a pro-human agenda.

00:11:54.000 It's that simple.

00:11:55.000 It's not a pro-technology agenda.

00:11:57.000 It's not a pro-woke agenda.

00:11:59.000 It's not a pro-chaos agenda.

00:12:01.000 Every single public policy choice that we support as conservatives, from being pro-life, to putting more police in the streets to allowing parents to have choice in their education to not mandating masks to caring more about small businesses than Amazon is a pro-human agenda.

00:12:17.000 That's exactly what conservatives should articulate.

00:12:19.000 And I'm afraid, I'm sure you guys are, in a variety of different ways, we are dehumanizing our young people and we're dehumanizing each other.

00:12:26.000 And what a better example of dehumanization than forcing people to walk around with masks all the time.

00:12:34.000 That is the literal definition of dehumanization.

00:12:37.000 And I have been a critic for a long time.

00:12:41.000 And again, the media hates it when I mention it, but I'm going to be consistent. 1.00

00:12:45.000 I'm a critic of, in the Middle Eastern world, of women having to literally mask up. 1.00

00:12:51.000 I always called it dehumanizing. 0.99

00:12:53.000 And we have too, by the way.

00:12:54.000 If you guys don't remember some of the debates like 10 years ago, a lot of conservatives weighed in on it and they've been really silent on us masking ourselves.

00:13:02.000 And I think it's child abuse to have a three-year-old wear a mask.

00:13:05.000 I think it's child abuse to have a child thinking that this is normal.

00:13:11.000 And they're like, oh, they're going to have this new normal.

00:13:13.000 Like whatever sort of weird tech company-funded normal you think it is, I already hate it.

00:13:20.000 You haven't even finished your sentence.

00:13:22.000 Because these are people that don't believe there's a difference between man and woman.

00:13:25.000 These are people that want to destroy women's sports.

00:13:29.000 They're funding it and they're espousing these ideas.

00:13:31.000 And so, insofar that that fight has come here to North Dakota, you know, I want to applaud the state legislature for pushing forward that bill.

00:13:38.000 That's the right thing to do.

00:13:40.000 And so I'll say a couple other things and then we'll come out and we'll have a conversation.

00:13:48.000 And actually, it ties with the lockdown.

00:13:49.000 So America went through three inflection points the last year.

00:13:53.000 And those of us that love America and love human beings and are conservatives, we failed all three of them.

00:13:57.000 The first was the lockdowns.

00:13:59.000 We're finally, hopefully, getting past that.

00:14:00.000 And all the mandates that came from there.

00:14:02.000 By the way, I could go for two hours on the human cost of the lockdowns.

00:14:06.000 You guys don't even understand the beginning of it.

00:14:09.000 Do you know that prescriptions for young children for anxiety is up 2,000% in the major counties across the country?

00:14:17.000 We did that because we decided to lock that down.

00:14:20.000 And we say that human contact is not essential.

00:14:22.000 It's unbelievable.

00:14:23.000 I mean, I could go through every single statistic.

00:14:25.000 Suicide, mental health, anxiety, depression, self-inflicted harm, one after the other.

00:14:30.000 By the way, not to mention domestic abuse.

00:14:33.000 All of a sudden, we're like, hey, let's make it so that women who are abused have to go live with their abusers, which was one of the most anti-women things we could have ever done in our country.

00:14:44.000 Anyway, the lockdowns, we failed.

00:14:46.000 The second thing, which is not far from here that I do want to comment on, is because of one incident that was immediately misrepresented, we decided, without very few people acting with courage, to accept this argument that America is a racist country.

00:15:01.000 And that not only that, we're going to go a step further. 0.65

00:15:03.000 We're going to say that all white people are racist. 1.00

00:15:05.000 And then if you do not admit it and take a knee and fund our companies and say it every single day and have a yard sign and the bumper sticker and post the black square, we're going to find you and humiliate you and make your life miserable. 0.99

00:15:17.000 And I was an early critic of this because I grew up in a very racially diverse part of Chicago where we actually cared about character, not skin color. 0.97

00:15:26.000 I know it's a really bizarre thing, where we didn't look at an audience or a group of people and say, oh, they're all white people.

00:15:31.000 I'm like, no, they're actually all really decent people.

00:15:34.000 And I actually didn't think about people's race.

00:15:36.000 In fact, if you're obsessed with race all the time, there's something really wrong with you.

00:15:40.000 Like, you should find Jesus and like read the Bible for a little bit.

00:15:44.000 I mean, there's something like really wrong with you.

00:15:47.000 And I actually believe that most Americans don't think about race all day long.

00:15:54.000 In fact, I think we're teaching that.

00:15:55.000 I've been a very vocal critic of all this because America is the least racist country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:16:01.000 America was founded on freedom, not on slavery.

00:16:03.000 The Northwest Ordinance, believe it or not, Ohio used to be considered the Northwest in America.

00:16:08.000 Ohio and Indiana was a declaration where it said no new slaves are allowed to expand into these territories, ratified by the United States Congress as one of their first acts of Congress right after the ratification of the U.S. Constitution.

00:16:20.000 They very well could have said, hey, we're going to allow all the slave traders to go into the Northwest Territories, but the founding fathers and George Washington, our first American president, said, no, any new territory is going to be a free territory because that's a reflection of our values.

00:16:33.000 Now, that short little vignette I just, 90 seconds, wouldn't it be nice if every single American kid in our schools understood that very basic truth?

00:16:43.000 And I could go on further.

00:16:44.000 There's so much depth there that I could dive into.

00:16:47.000 But whether, we all know this, almost every single person in America is afraid of being called the R-word.

00:16:53.000 It's the most powerful word in the American political discourse, being called a racist, obviously.

00:16:59.000 And no one wants to be called that because basically it's the new scarlet letter.

00:17:02.000 If you get called that, you could lose jobs, friends, you could potentially get kicked out of fraternities and sororities.

00:17:09.000 And so we are willing to do things we otherwise would not do to justify to other people that actually hate us that we're not a racist.

00:17:17.000 Now, let me be very clear.

00:17:18.000 If you are a racist and you harbor those deep resentments, then you have work to do.

00:17:22.000 You have people to apologize to.

00:17:24.000 I hope you get in contact with your Creator through his Son, Jesus Christ.

00:17:28.000 And I really hope that you seek forgiveness.

00:17:30.000 I mean that.

00:17:31.000 But let me be very clear.

00:17:33.000 If you're not a racist and you treat people decently and you have basically for your entire life, then you have nothing to apologize for.

00:17:43.000 You are not in default of that position just because God made you a certain way or because you have a certain skin color.

00:17:49.000 That's a wildly controversial thing to say on college campuses now.

00:17:52.000 And then the third inflection point is the election and what happened there.

00:17:57.000 And let me just say this as bluntly as possible.

00:18:00.000 If we do not fix the way we do elections in this country, we're never going to have another election.

00:18:05.000 We have to fix the way that we do elections in our country.

00:18:09.000 And I'm sure that North Dakota does it much better than Georgia, my goodness.

00:18:16.000 But look, I could go through the election in a variety of different ways.

00:18:20.000 There's things I think the president could have done better.

00:18:22.000 There's things that the campaign could have done better.

00:18:24.000 There's things that the media did.

00:18:25.000 There's things that the tech companies did to prevent the information from being spread.

00:18:30.000 Despite all of that, Donald Trump got closer than anyone would have ever believed, not to mention all of the nonsense and the shenanigans and quite honestly, the treachery that happened in the ballot registration, the ballot dropping, the voter harvesting, the vote counting, the late night ballot drops, that whole process, I really hope that it gets reformed, not just reformed, it needs to get dramatically moved in the right direction.

00:18:55.000 And so we need to ask ourselves the question, why are elections important?

00:18:58.000 Well, elections are pressure release valves.

00:19:01.000 It's all that prevent us from descending into the third world and going to a place of permanent chaos.

00:19:10.000 Elections are a place where if you're really angry, you could circle a date on your calendar and say, I'm so angry, but I can't wait to do my silent little protest and it's going to be our little secret because all my friends might like Biden, but I love Trump.

00:19:23.000 That's a thing that elections are supposed to offer you.

00:19:25.000 But when you don't trust your elections, if you do not trust the mechanism that you're actually able to express your voice, then all of a sudden that entire pressure release valve disappears.

00:19:35.000 So we are flirting with some very dangerous territory here.

00:19:38.000 And instead of reforming our elections, Democrats want to pass HR1, which would do the opposite, which would forever damage our elections.

00:19:46.000 And then Georgia wants to make a very, just very vanilla, moderate change to election law.

00:19:53.000 And they get accused of like, oh, you're saying that you can't distribute water to people in line.

00:19:57.000 First of all, you can.

00:19:59.000 Second of all, never knew voting was that dehydrating.

00:20:01.000 Third of all, you can bring your own water.

00:20:04.000 Fourth of all, again, we're talking about voting, not Navy SEALs training, right?

00:20:09.000 Like, the whole thing is like so bizarre. 0.68

00:20:11.000 And they're like, oh, it's Jim Crow 2.0.

00:20:13.000 Okay, you realize that this allows Sunday voting, which most black people use to vote in Georgia. 0.87

00:20:18.000 The only difference that drives them absolutely nuts is that if you're going to use a mail-in ballot, you have to prove who you are. 0.90

00:20:26.000 That's it.

00:20:26.000 It's not exactly a controversial thing, but they're so angry about it.

00:20:30.000 And this should give you the entire story of the 2020 election.

00:20:34.000 Because whatever just happened, that's probably where a lot of that happened is in the mail-in balloting nonsense, in a practice that the New York Times itself called ballot laundering, which is picking up ballots to people that never requested them, people that got extra ballots, to things that move.

00:20:48.000 And there's an entire underground criminal industry that does exist.

00:20:52.000 It was exposed by the New York Times to go pick up those ballots, fill them out anonymously, and put them in drop boxes funded by Mark Zuckerberg.

00:20:59.000 Now, people say, well, that didn't happen enough to be able to sway things.

00:21:02.000 First of all, you don't know that.

00:21:04.000 Second of all, we're talking about margins of 10,000, 11,000, 15,000, 20,000 votes.

00:21:09.000 So when all of a sudden things are right within that marginal difference, those things absolutely can be consequential.

00:21:16.000 And so then you have the president of the United States and the CEOs of Delta and Coca-Cola literally waging economic warfare against Georgia.

00:21:24.000 And so they say it's all about fighting systemic racism.

00:21:27.000 So they move the Major League Baseball All-Star game from a 60% black county that would have been a $30 million stimulus to the black community and $100 million stimulus to Atlanta to a white county in Denver with a bunch of kind of mountain hippies, I guess. 0.67

00:21:43.000 I'm sure if you guys have friends that are basically all white and really rich.

00:21:47.000 And they say, no, we do not want to economically support the black community in downtown Atlanta because we're fighting for the black community.

00:21:53.000 I'm like, wait, I'm sorry, what?

00:21:55.000 And of course they don't get called out on it.

00:21:57.000 And now Denver is going to get the Major League Baseball game.

00:21:59.000 And this goes to the final thing I'll say is this, and I want to explore this, which is that corporations are not your friend.

00:22:04.000 There are two threats to your liberty right now.

00:22:06.000 They're coming from both government and they're coming from corporations.

00:22:10.000 So we're going to have a conversation here.

00:22:14.000 And as we do, we're going to do some questions.

00:22:16.000 But I want to thank you guys for being here tonight because it's very important that we start to assemble physically again.

00:22:23.000 We are human beings.

00:22:24.000 We are not cyborgs.

00:22:25.000 Enough of the Zoom and Skype and YouTube nonsense.

00:22:28.000 And we have to start to show the world that we are not going to tolerate the intentional destruction of this beautiful gift and this constitutional republic that we have been given.

00:22:41.000 We're not going to take it anymore.

00:22:42.000 And it starts tonight.

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00:23:59.000 I don't know about you, but after that, I'm like, 18 million things I'm excited to visit with you about.

00:24:04.000 But one of the things that jumped out to me when I first met you is just your humility.

00:24:08.000 I mean, what you're doing is absolutely incredible.

00:24:10.000 And so because you're so humble, I don't think a lot of people really know your story from where you started to where you are today.

00:24:15.000 So let's just start there.

00:24:16.000 Let's start about the Charlie Kirk story.

00:24:18.000 Well, thank you.

00:24:20.000 So I grew up in Chicago, as I mentioned.

00:24:23.000 Went to Wheeling High School as a public high school.

00:24:25.000 And I was going to go to West Point.

00:24:27.000 That was my life ambition.

00:24:29.000 Didn't get in.

00:24:30.000 Ended up being the best thing that never happened to me.

00:24:33.000 And that's a good lesson for all of you guys out there that sometimes there's a better thing in store for you.

00:24:39.000 I told my parents that I was really concerned about the decline of Western civilization.

00:24:44.000 And they kind of laughed.

00:24:46.000 And I said I wanted to do something about it.

00:24:50.000 And so I had some really good mentors.

00:24:52.000 My parents were super supportive.

00:24:53.000 They really were.

00:24:54.000 And they were supportive. 0.96

00:24:55.000 And actually, the most provocative thing a young person can do in upper middle class Chicago suburbia when you aren't a complete loser. 0.58

00:25:02.000 And that's not go to college, right?

00:25:03.000 It's like the one thing you're not allowed to do.

00:25:06.000 You know, drugs, perfectly fine.

00:25:08.000 Drunk driving, we got a whole program for that.

00:25:11.000 You know, not going to college, like you really need some help, right?

00:25:15.000 And so I have a whole speech on that.

00:25:17.000 We can explore.

00:25:19.000 But no, they were super supportive.

00:25:21.000 And I had no money, no connections, no idea what I was doing.

00:25:24.000 And just started traveling the country and started to kind of learn as we went.

00:25:29.000 And Turning Point USA now is the premier conservative student organization on campus out there with thousands and thousands of young people.

00:25:37.000 We just had our Southwest Regional Conference and our Young Latino Leadership Summit in Phoenix yesterday.

00:25:43.000 I've been all over the place in the last 24 hours.

00:25:45.000 It's been very eventful.

00:25:47.000 And we launched a podcast about two years ago.

00:25:50.000 And it's now consistently the top 10 of all Apple News podcasts, which we're very thankful for.

00:25:55.000 We're on 85 radio stations across the country every single day.

00:25:59.000 And at Turning Point USA, we've got about 165 people on full-time staff and host the biggest events.

00:26:06.000 You guys have probably seen our videos.

00:26:08.000 We have a lot of success stories.

00:26:09.000 We've had a lot of fun.

00:26:10.000 Candace Owens got her start with us, who's terrific, as you guys all know.

00:26:17.000 And so, yeah, look, we want to play a piece, play a part, be a piece, I guess you could say, in changing the trajectory of our nation because currently we all know where it's headed.

00:26:28.000 But share with people where you started.

00:26:30.000 I mean, the story told me I'm Sarah's been, hey, Chris, I went to Madison, Wisconsin.

00:26:33.000 That's funny.

00:26:34.000 Yeah, I really didn't know what I was doing.

00:26:36.000 I just had energy, and that's about it.

00:26:39.000 So that's a good lesson for all the young people out there.

00:26:43.000 If you just are willing to outwork other people and take risks and be bold and be daring, this country still rewards that.

00:26:51.000 Do not let your teachers or the negative people in your life tell you different.

00:26:55.000 You could still be rewarded for that in America.

00:26:58.000 And so I had no idea what I was doing.

00:27:02.000 I didn't know college activism.

00:27:03.000 So I just drove up to UW-Madison.

00:27:07.000 Which is a bastion of liberalism.

00:27:09.000 Of course it is.

00:27:11.000 And I kind of had like a friend there and a connection of one of the people that were trying to get us started, Catherine.

00:27:19.000 And I set up a card table and started talking to students.

00:27:22.000 And we started the chapter from that.

00:27:24.000 And it was that organic, right?

00:27:26.000 And so then I traveled the country.

00:27:27.000 And as I started to speak more events, I started to meet some people and raise some more money.

00:27:32.000 And then I realized kind of what an organization is and what it can do.

00:27:35.000 And I mean, they don't teach you any of this stuff in high school, right?

00:27:38.000 They teach you how to hate your country, but they do not teach you.

00:27:40.000 I literally did not know how to write checks, bank account, personal finance.

00:27:43.000 Oh, it's true. 0.95

00:27:44.000 Find me a high school that does and send your kid there because my high school was all about, I mean, my high school when I was there was better than most, but there was definitely the liberal undertones and garbage there.

00:27:56.000 But it's been one amazing blessing after the other.

00:27:58.000 And we definitely hit an inflection point when I had an amazing opportunity to meet the president when he was a candidate.

00:28:05.000 I personally went all in for him when many conservatives thought he had no chance of winning.

00:28:10.000 And so I became the body man to Donald Trump Jr. and just basically fetched Diet Red Bulls and took pictures for him while still trying to figure all this stuff out.

00:28:23.000 That was only four years ago and a couple months ago.

00:28:26.000 And I mean, I wasn't nobody at the time.

00:28:29.000 I was still doing a couple things, speaking and TV here, but it was one 1,000th of what we have now, right?

00:28:36.000 And I just saw this amazing opportunity.

00:28:38.000 And again, this whole thing about Russian collusion, I always laugh about it.

00:28:42.000 Like, oh, yeah, you colluded with Putin.

00:28:44.000 I'm like, I was the bodyman to John Jr.

00:28:46.000 We got our, we got our Columbus to Cincinnati and Cleveland mixed up.

00:28:49.000 We couldn't order a pizza, let alone collude with Putin, okay?

00:28:53.000 Like this idea that we were part of this like intercontinental conspiracy.

00:28:57.000 I'm like, this was the most organic, people-driven campaign in the history of the planet. 0.96

00:29:02.000 Like, oh, yeah, we're being driven by some Russian oligarch is ridiculous. 0.95

00:29:06.000 And so, obviously, Trump won.

00:29:08.000 And unlike most politicians, President Trump actually cared about the people that helped him get there, which is like a really weird thing, right?

00:29:18.000 And so most politicians are far too transactional.

00:29:24.000 It actually runs against the bias most people have about Trump, which is that he just uses people and discards them.

00:29:30.000 It's the exact opposite, and I could speak to that.

00:29:32.000 He spoke at our events.

00:29:34.000 He spoke at four of our events in a 16-month period.

00:29:37.000 He endorsed our book that I wrote about him that I still think is a very applicable, good book about kind of where these ideas came from and what we should be arguing for.

00:29:46.000 So, look, I'm the luckiest guy in the world and unbelievably blessed to be able to travel the country.

00:29:52.000 I give 330 speeches a year, more or less.

00:29:56.000 And so, a lot, sometimes multiple a day, and again, two podcasts a day and do the radio and plus run turning points.

00:30:03.000 So, I have trouble sitting still.

00:30:06.000 And so, this is a really good line of work for me to be in.

00:30:09.000 Well, congratulations.

00:30:10.000 Thank you.

00:30:11.000 Thank you.

00:30:11.000 One of the things that really jumped out in your conversation, we are going to do this town hall, so we're going to get to some of your questions as well.

00:30:16.000 But I think one of these that jumped out tonight was the power of your faith.

00:30:20.000 Yes.

00:30:20.000 So, talk to us about that.

00:30:22.000 Yeah, so I've been talking about that more in the last couple of years.

00:30:26.000 And I've been a Christian since fifth grade.

00:30:29.000 I gave my life to Christ when I was, yeah, I guess I was 12 years old.

00:30:32.000 Yeah.

00:30:33.000 And so, but I was taught incorrectly that Christians shouldn't get involved in politics.

00:30:41.000 Has anyone heard that at all?

00:30:42.000 I'm sure you have.

00:30:43.000 Of course, you have.

00:30:44.000 And I was always taught that whatever political engagement I did, do not let it kind of get into the religious sphere.

00:30:53.000 And I actually believed that up until a couple of years ago when I met my current pastor, Rob McCoy, at an event, I'll tell him he has an enthusiastic group of people that love him.

00:31:05.000 Thank you for that.

00:31:06.000 Yeah, he's awesome.

00:31:07.000 And so he's a pastor of a great church in California.

00:31:10.000 I'll tell you a little bit about him.

00:31:12.000 And he gave this unbelievable speech at this conservative event.

00:31:15.000 I had no idea who he was, right?

00:31:17.000 And then he exits by like, oh, come to my church.

00:31:19.000 I'm like, pastors talk like this?

00:31:21.000 Like, what?

00:31:22.000 And so I go up to him and I introduce, and we get to know each other.

00:31:25.000 And I realized that I was lied to, that not only should Christians get involved in politics, but Christians formed this country through the first great awakening of the sermons of Roger Williams and Jonathan Edwards and George Whitfield and many others, and that the Protestant Reformation was directly instructive towards the formation of America.

00:31:48.000 And there's been four great awakenings.

00:31:50.000 I'm happy to go through all of them.

00:31:51.000 But some Christians say theologically, we shouldn't get involved in politics.

00:31:55.000 It doesn't say that anywhere in the Bible.

00:31:56.000 First of all, that's just not true.

00:31:58.000 It says there's an extensive verse in Jeremiah to seek, which comes from a Hebrew word, badrash, which means the demand, desire, or aim, the welfare or the shalom, the peace of the nation of which you are in, for the peace, the shalom of that nation is your welfare.

00:32:15.000 So think about that.

00:32:17.000 So that your welfare is tied to the welfare of your nation.

00:32:20.000 Now, some of you might say, ah, no, it's not true.

00:32:23.000 What happens to the nation doesn't impact me? 0.84

00:32:25.000 We know that's a biblical truth through what happened in the Soviet Union. 0.88

00:32:28.000 That the welfare of the people of the Soviet Union was far less. 0.86

00:32:33.000 It was like a way worse condition than that what we had in the United States. 0.93

00:32:36.000 We knew that from Cuba. 0.84

00:32:37.000 We know that from now in China and North Korea. 0.98

00:32:39.000 So that biblical truth remains true to today.

00:32:41.000 But also, the people that say that will have to wrestle with the, they have to explain the Old Testament heroes of Esther, Mordecai, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Joseph, just to name a few, of people that were the counselor to the king to influence secular government for God's purpose.

00:32:59.000 It says in 1 Timothy, which is argued by historians, the last thing that Paul wrote, where it's a beautiful letter where he knows he's going to get killed, right?

00:33:09.000 Paul's in a Roman prison, and he's like, this is it, I'm done.

00:33:13.000 And that's the verse that is commonly quoted: I've run the good race, and I'm finishing well.

00:33:19.000 But there's a verse before that.

00:33:20.000 He says very clearly that to pray for the leaders in authority that you might live quiet and peaceable lives.

00:33:25.000 And if you go back to the original Greek, he's emphasizing quiet and peaceable as what we should desire.

00:33:32.000 And if you're not living in quiet and peaceable lives, then that's a contract that is being broken.

00:33:37.000 And even further, and I could go through verse by verse, like you know, the dozens that speak to this, but what pastors are really saying or what Christians are really saying is, hey, Christianity is supposed to be not controversial, okay?

00:33:50.000 That's what Christianity is about, which is a very bizarre theological belief if you actually read the scriptures.

00:33:56.000 It's like, it's just this weird, like, hippie Jesus that has started to come onto the scene the last 20 years, that hippie was like this John Lennon character that was like the birds and the bees and the meadows, and he's just kind of like, we're all going to get along.

00:34:10.000 Like, there's an element to Jesus, I guess, that you could point there.

00:34:13.000 But Jesus was 100% grace and 100% truth.

00:34:17.000 And Jesus was unafraid to call right from wrong, to say that he was the way, the truth, and the life, and the only way to get to the Father was through him.

00:34:27.000 And so this idea that Christianity shouldn't be controversial, I don't think you should seek controversy.

00:34:32.000 The scriptures tell you that.

00:34:33.000 Of course not.

00:34:34.000 You shouldn't go run after it, but you should always speak the truth.

00:34:37.000 And I also believe in the parable of the talents that we are going to be judged based on what we are given.

00:34:43.000 And we as Americans are given a lot more.

00:34:46.000 We are given more liberty, more freedom, more opportunity, more blessing than any other nation ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:34:52.000 And I truly believe that when our Creator, when we face our Creator, we are going to be judged of what we did, if anything, with this gift that we have been given that has afforded so many people so much unbelievable and quite honestly undeserved liberty.

00:35:05.000 That if you actually look at who we are in the state of nature, we're brutal.

00:35:09.000 We are nasty to each other, as Thomas Hobbes would often say.

00:35:12.000 So I'm speaking out more and more about my faith.

00:35:14.000 And I've come to realize, it's also kind of part of this thing that I've developed the last couple of years.

00:35:20.000 What else are you going to call me?

00:35:22.000 I mean, the New York Times or the Washington Post, you've already used every single word you could possibly do to slander me.

00:35:28.000 I don't care, so I'm going to tell you what I believe louder than ever.

00:35:31.000 And you can write whatever you want about me.

00:35:33.000 I really don't care.

00:35:34.000 And so it's the most liberating thing that could ever happen to you.

00:35:40.000 So I'm happy to dive deeper into that.

00:35:43.000 But Christian pastors in particular, if there's any here, any watching, you need to take your proper role in the ecclesia.

00:35:51.000 Ecclesia is a Greek word that means public square.

00:35:55.000 Jesus Christ used it at Caesarea Philippi, one of the most famous, yes, yet misunderstood scriptures in the New Testament.

00:36:01.000 When Jesus took his disciples up to the mouth of the Jordan River, I've been there multiple times.

00:36:05.000 And he says, who do you say that I am?

00:36:07.000 Or who do men say that I am?

00:36:08.000 And so they say, well, some people say you're Elijah.

00:36:11.000 Some say that you're John the Baptist.

00:36:12.000 And then he goes on to say, on this rock, he's pointing to Peter, build my, and the Greek word is ecclesia.

00:36:18.000 Well, we use church, but it's really deeper.

00:36:20.000 It's ecclesia, which means political gathering.

00:36:23.000 It means public square, all-encompassing group that cares about the welfare and the being of all around you.

00:36:29.000 And when Greeks used to meet about something wrong in their community, they'd say, all right, we're having ecclesia tonight.

00:36:34.000 And they used to unify around two other Greek words, eleutherian, isonomia, freedom, and equality.

00:36:40.000 I wonder what country has those two words as central organizing principles.

00:36:46.000 And so let me just talk pure political science on this really quick, though. 0.83

00:36:49.000 Maybe you're not a Christian or you've been burned by the church. 0.90

00:36:52.000 I get it. 0.99

00:36:52.000 And Christians have done a bad job in a lot of different ways in this country the last couple decades. 0.99

00:36:57.000 And myself included, I'm still learning how to better communicate these things. 0.98

00:37:01.000 But if Christians don't rise up louder than ever before, the country's done.

00:37:05.000 And so if you care even a little bit about the nation, churches and Christians and pastors have to get more involved than ever before in this fight. 0.71

00:37:16.000 Do you have a photographic memory?

00:37:19.000 No, I really don't.

00:37:21.000 I forget a lot.

00:37:23.000 I have these journals, these thick journals, because I try to take two hours a day.

00:37:28.000 I recommend this to anyone.

00:37:29.000 It's actually, it's the most liberating thing.

00:37:31.000 People say, Charlie, how do you keep up your good cheer?

00:37:33.000 I learn something new every single day.

00:37:35.000 And if you're learning, you're making progress in a good way, not bad progress like they want us to.

00:37:40.000 But you're developing your character, hopefully.

00:37:42.000 You're pursuing wisdom.

00:37:43.000 And so I actually, I look back at these journals.

00:37:46.000 My goodness, I forgot basically 95% of it.

00:37:48.000 But if I only remember 5% of what I learned over 10 years, I'm 50% smarter.

00:37:54.000 And so a decade from now, I'm going to be much smarter than I am today and wiser, hopefully.

00:37:58.000 So no, I don't have a.

00:38:00.000 So what was your strategy that you said that for two hours you do what?

00:38:02.000 Yeah, so ever since I started doing radio and podcasting, I learned this from my friend Rush Limbaugh, who was just, we should just honor him.

00:38:09.000 He was just the best.

00:38:11.000 He was just so great.

00:38:14.000 And I got to know him.

00:38:18.000 And I said, Rush, what does your daily schedule look like?

00:38:22.000 And he told me that he would take time with his phone put aside and not with emails, reading and reading history books or going into philosophy.

00:38:30.000 I mean, the one misrepresentation of Rush that people don't realize is he was a deep thinker.

00:38:35.000 And I could tell you from doing two hours of radio day, doing three hours is even harder.

00:38:39.000 And to make it interesting alone with no guests, that's hard.

00:38:42.000 And he was able to do that and predict things before they happened and come up with one-liners that all of us used because he was so deep into the knowledge that built Western civilization, therefore unafraid to make these bold, these bold predictions.

00:38:56.000 And so I try to do that.

00:38:57.000 And so I spend two hours a day.

00:38:59.000 I just did it on the plane right over of no distractions, listening to podcasts, of interesting people, authors, things I agree with.

00:39:05.000 I try to do a little bit less of what I disagree with, not because I'm any less interested in it, but I have a pretty good idea where they're coming from right now.

00:39:15.000 I do.

00:39:16.000 And I still do a fair amount of it, but I just find it less.

00:39:18.000 I just fall asleep.

00:39:19.000 I'm like, yeah, okay, everyone's thinking racist and the victim oppressor.

00:39:22.000 Like, I get it.

00:39:22.000 It's like after the 95th time, it's somewhat.

00:39:25.000 Maybe if they start to, maybe if they innovate themselves a little bit, then I'll listen to their garbage. 0.96

00:39:30.000 But not a lot of that. 0.96

00:39:32.000 But that's what I try to do every day.

00:39:33.000 So we want to take some questions.

00:39:35.000 So, Scott, if you have something, let us know.

00:39:37.000 But first, before we do, Scott, I just got to bring something up real quick because he and I were upstairs chatting for a few minutes.

00:39:43.000 And he said something, and I'm going to take my phone out, but he said something that I think is going to shock a lot of people.

00:39:48.000 And so I just want to give you a chance to expound on what we were talking about and see how that landscape.

00:39:52.000 Yeah, I've become strangely anti-technology in the last year.

00:39:56.000 And I want you all to think deeply about this.

00:39:59.000 And I'm intentionally going to be provocative.

00:40:01.000 I think these smartphones are destroying our humanity.

00:40:04.000 I think that our young people are being robbed of what I had, which was this amazing thing when I was nine years old, when my mom told me to go outside and I had to go play.

00:40:15.000 It's really an amazing thing.

00:40:17.000 No, it was actually awesome.

00:40:18.000 And I kid you not, I would go through these hour-long worlds that I created purely through my imagination.

00:40:26.000 And it was, people say, Charlie, how are you?

00:40:29.000 I actually think that was a huge reason why I'm able to do what I do today.

00:40:33.000 I was using my mind all the time.

00:40:35.000 And then I go out to these dinners and these parents are handing these smartphones and no one's talking.

00:40:42.000 No one's having any conversation.

00:40:43.000 They're just staring at these devices.

00:40:45.000 And so let me just say a couple things on this.

00:40:48.000 And we have to control technology before we are slaves to this technology.

00:40:52.000 And it's happening quicker than ever before.

00:40:53.000 Remember, I said pro-human agenda, right?

00:40:56.000 This is an anti-human device and an anti-human thing that's happening to us in real time, from virtual reality to augmented reality to the social psychology behind it.

00:41:05.000 Here's a couple things to think about.

00:41:07.000 Apple has dozens of full-time neuroscientists on their payroll that all day they have children as lab rats to find out how your kids can be more addicted to those devices.

00:41:21.000 There's something really wrong about that.

00:41:24.000 There's something really anti-human about that.

00:41:27.000 And I don't even think we're able to understand or process the complexity of what's happening to the neuroscience, the chemistry of the brain when we're spending six hours a day on average under the age of 20 on these devices.

00:41:41.000 That's number one.

00:41:41.000 Number two, the people that have actually built these applications, they don't let their kids use them.

00:41:47.000 I want you to think about that.

00:41:49.000 The people that have built them, that your grandchildren and your children are using or the young people, they know the power in them because they built it.

00:41:56.000 So they have rules in their own house.

00:41:58.000 No smartphones till you're 18.

00:42:00.000 Number three, these, you are not getting anything out of them.

00:42:06.000 You are the product.

00:42:07.000 They are selling you every time you go on Facebook and Instagram and Twitter and YouTube.

00:42:12.000 You are the product.

00:42:13.000 Now, I'm not saying it's all bad.

00:42:14.000 I mean, we got cameras.

00:42:16.000 Some people are filming me now.

00:42:18.000 You could find out where you are a little bit easier.

00:42:19.000 Actually, that's a negative thing.

00:42:20.000 I'll be honest.

00:42:21.000 I got in this debate with somebody.

00:42:22.000 Oh, smartphones are the greatest thing ever.

00:42:24.000 Like technology all the time.

00:42:25.000 By the way, if we have no technological advancements in smartphones for the rest of my life, I'll be super happy.

00:42:31.000 Honestly, enough.

00:42:32.000 Like, we have to slow it down because it's destroying the spirit and the soul of how God made us.

00:42:38.000 But he's like, oh, no, it's a great thing because we have maps and GPS all the time.

00:42:41.000 And at first, I agreed with him.

00:42:42.000 I think there's some truth to that.

00:42:44.000 But I talked to these 16-year-olds.

00:42:46.000 They have no understanding of the neighborhood around them.

00:42:48.000 They do not know a compass.

00:42:49.000 They didn't even know how to find their home if they were 10 minutes outside of their.

00:42:53.000 And I said, you know what?

00:42:54.000 No, I actually don't agree.

00:42:54.000 I think it's a bad thing.

00:42:55.000 I think it's a good thing when you know physically where you are oriented with your point of reference and metaphorically where you're oriented in your life of your point of reference.

00:43:04.000 And you think about just the little social psychology things, right?

00:43:07.000 So all of a sudden you want to become a follower.

00:43:09.000 Well, that's a really way to make people obey.

00:43:12.000 Like, oh, I'm a follower of Beyoncé on social media.

00:43:15.000 Should we be creating leaders, not followers?

00:43:18.000 Little stuff like that has been thought.

00:43:19.000 None of this is a mistake.

00:43:21.000 So the way you have to look at these phones is like how you have to look at a Tarantino movie, or it's been thought through.

00:43:26.000 It's scripted.

00:43:27.000 Everything that you see, like, for example, if you're going to watch Saving Private Ryan and they show a character with a gun and they emphasize the gun, that gun is going to be used a couple minutes later, right?

00:43:38.000 That's you guys, that's film 101.

00:43:40.000 Same thing with these phones.

00:43:41.000 When you see something, nothing in there is a mistake.

00:43:45.000 They are built to have you be chemically addicted to them, including your children.

00:43:49.000 And so I'm of the opinion, and by the way, it's going to get probably a million times worse, and I'm not exaggerating with artificial intelligence.

00:43:56.000 And artificial intelligence, I understand enough to be dangerous, but I trust the people in charge that are warning us about it, like Peter Thiel and Elon Musk.

00:44:04.000 We have to regulate artificial intelligence before artificial intelligence regulates you.

00:44:10.000 And I believe that we've had multiple thousands of years of human beings having a certain pattern of behavior, getting married, having children, going to work, working with your hands.

00:44:20.000 And now we're basically saying all of that was a mistake.

00:44:23.000 And I'm calling BS on all of that.

00:44:25.000 I'm saying I do not want to live in this Aldous Huxley's Brave New World combination of 1984 with Orwell, where everything we do is monitored.

00:44:33.000 There is no solitude.

00:44:35.000 There is no privacy.

00:44:36.000 We only seek pleasure, the next dopamine rush.

00:44:38.000 There is no virtue.

00:44:40.000 And I think these devices have a lot to blame for that.

00:44:43.000 I think these devices where you get a next notification of your friend liking your post, or you're getting these endless Facebook arguments, that is not how I believe it's not the optimal human condition.

00:44:54.000 And so technology has a place.

00:44:56.000 I think it's a positive thing when we say that we can rebuild hearts for heart transplants using technology.

00:45:01.000 But that's us controlling technology.

00:45:04.000 We've done the opposite.

00:45:04.000 We've said everyone is able to handle a thermonuclear weapon in their right-hand pocket.

00:45:09.000 And I think that is a tragic error and mistake.

00:45:12.000 And so if I was in charge, which I'm not, I would say we have to regulate this like we regulate nuclear weapons.

00:45:18.000 That we are going to use it for the benefit of humanity, but we are going to be transparent with where they are and how they're spread out.

00:45:26.000 But we are going to understand very calmly, very, very clearly with our citizens that these things very well are going to create a generation of 10 or 20 years where we are going to be automatons and cyborgs.

00:45:38.000 And people are going to say, if you want to be happy, just go put on your glasses.

00:45:42.000 You're upset with the circumstance around you?

00:45:44.000 Mark Zuckerberg said that at a stockholder meeting last month.

00:45:48.000 He said, people are not going to have to leave their homes soon.

00:45:50.000 Just put on your glasses and you'll be able to be transported to a new reality.

00:45:54.000 As far as I have breath in my lungs, I refuse to be a slave to these devices and I will protect a pro-human agenda.

00:46:08.000 So have you ever browsed in incognito mode?

00:46:10.000 It's probably not as incognito as you think.

00:46:12.000 And why would it be?

00:46:13.000 Incognito mode, like the Chrome browser itself is a Google product and Google has made its fortune by tracking your movements online.

00:46:19.000 There's even a $5 billion class action lawsuit against the company in California where it's accused of secretly collecting user data.

00:46:25.000 Google's defense, incognito does not mean invisible.

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00:47:20.000 My question to you is because you talked about how the ruling class despises people here in North Dakota.

00:47:25.000 But it feels like right now we're run by a corporatocracy.

00:47:29.000 That's exactly right.

00:47:30.000 So how do you stop it?

00:47:31.000 Well, this, you guys being here right now is part of it.

00:47:34.000 Boy, how you solve it is the hardest part of it.

00:47:37.000 I'm really good at diagnosing the problems, then walking off stage.

00:47:39.000 Have a nice night.

00:47:40.000 Thank you.

00:47:42.000 So let me reinforce how hard this is because we are now in a moment in time when people you didn't vote for now have more power than people you voted for.

00:47:53.000 I want you to think deeply about that.

00:47:56.000 That's never happened before, where people you didn't vote for have more power than the people you voted for.

00:48:02.000 And so that's a violation of the constitutional promise.

00:48:06.000 So the constitutional promise is power is going to be left to the consent of the governed.

00:48:12.000 What was the American Revolution about?

00:48:14.000 It wasn't about tea.

00:48:15.000 It was not about taxes even.

00:48:16.000 It was about consent.

00:48:18.000 That you are not allowed to have major power without my permission.

00:48:24.000 That's basically the American system, right?

00:48:27.000 Now we have forgotten that system or we've just kind of ignored it because these corporations have funded our politicians' campaigns and we fell in love with this idea that the more cheap plastic from China, the better, that companies are always going to be in our best interest.

00:48:42.000 We know that's not true.

00:48:43.000 We've seen that in the last couple of weeks.

00:48:46.000 So it has to be a variety of different things.

00:48:47.000 Number one, if I was in charge, or if at least I have input, I'm going to tell you my input, is that the best thing that we can do is not send our kids to college and try to raise a new generation of entrepreneurs.

00:48:58.000 We have to build new stuff quickly and we have to build them boldly.

00:49:01.000 And I'm talking about, anyone want to start an airline?

00:49:04.000 I mean, that's how bold we have to think.

00:49:06.000 Soft drink companies.

00:49:07.000 I mean, we have to, college is a great way to learn not how to start a business.

00:49:11.000 I always laugh, like, oh, yeah, I'm going to college for entrepreneurship.

00:49:13.000 I'm like, you're learning.

00:49:15.000 What would you like?

00:49:16.000 The study of entrepreneurship.

00:49:17.000 It's the one thing you literally just do.

00:49:19.000 You have energy and you have spirit.

00:49:21.000 You get tougher.

00:49:21.000 You take risks.

00:49:22.000 You learn from other people and you self-correct.

00:49:25.000 I go to college for entrepreneurship.

00:49:26.000 Like, what are you talking about?

00:49:28.000 You're going to college for entrepreneurship.

00:49:30.000 And then I'm not trying to offend anyone that goes to college for entrepreneurship.

00:49:33.000 But like, I went to one of these schools and they're not even learning from an entrepreneur.

00:49:38.000 They're learning from some professor who has never started anything in their life.

00:49:42.000 And I'm like, at the very least, just go talk to a couple business guys before that.

00:49:46.000 And so entrepreneurship is one of the ways we're going to save this.

00:49:51.000 That's number one.

00:49:51.000 We have to start new stuff and start it quickly, invest in our people, and get these 16, 17, 18-year-olds that have the energy, the ambition, the wherewithal, the people to do what I did, which, again, the first five years when I started Turning Point, it was red-eye flights, never going home, getting my teeth kicked in, borrowing money, the stuff you have to do.

00:50:09.000 Praise God, we're not in that position anymore.

00:50:12.000 But I was nuts enough and 21 years old to do it.

00:50:15.000 But when you go to college, you immediately have a liability.

00:50:18.000 You have a student loan debt.

00:50:19.000 You have to service.

00:50:19.000 You're less likely to take a risk.

00:50:21.000 You're filled with bad ideas.

00:50:22.000 You're in a culture of negativity.

00:50:24.000 You want to be a cog in the machine.

00:50:26.000 When you're in a high schooler, you actually still think you could take on the world.

00:50:28.000 That's a good thing.

00:50:30.000 So the entire system of creating new risk takers has been completely inverted.

00:50:33.000 So that's number one.

00:50:34.000 Number two, and this is the more controversial one, which is that we as Republicans have to be willing to use political power to check corporate America.

00:50:44.000 And that's something we're usually afraid to say.

00:50:47.000 But if Delta Airlines and Major League Baseball want to wage economic warfare against Georgia, a sovereign state, our fellow countrymen, then we should be unafraid to say that you're going to lose your exemptions and that you're going to pay a price.

00:51:00.000 And I don't know what that price is, quite honestly, but we should explore it.

00:51:03.000 I'm sure someone has some good ideas.

00:51:04.000 I know Teddy Roosevelt showed us what a price could be.

00:51:07.000 Truly.

00:51:08.000 That if you do not represent our values, if all of a sudden you're going to be a company that treats America like a colony and not our home, then no, you're going to pay a price for that.

00:51:19.000 Because all of a sudden, you're against what is going to continue the American promise for our children and our grandchildren.

00:51:25.000 I do not come to that conclusion lightly.

00:51:27.000 I don't.

00:51:28.000 I don't like saying that we're going to use political power.

00:51:30.000 In fact, I try to hesitate.

00:51:32.000 I try to prevent myself from that.

00:51:33.000 I'm afraid that we have very few things left at our disposal.

00:51:36.000 So, what does that look like?

00:51:37.000 The Democrats are enthusiastic to use political power.

00:51:40.000 They use every level of agency to try to remake America in their image, all the time, always.

00:51:46.000 From the IRS to the Department of Justice to the Employment Prevention Agency, the EPA.

00:51:51.000 I know that would probably get some applause here in North Dakota, right?

00:51:54.000 They are enthusiastic about using political power to try to remake America in their image.

00:52:01.000 Republicans are terrified of it.

00:52:02.000 It's a very simple thing: is that if Amazon is going to continue to do what they're doing, or even a better example of Delta Airlines, is, I mean, will the Attorney General of one of these states just send a letter to them and say, why are you trying to wage economic warfare on a sovereign state like Georgia?

00:52:17.000 Maybe you have monopolistic practices.

00:52:20.000 Are you representing the best interest of your shareholders?

00:52:22.000 The point is that the people are actually with us.

00:52:25.000 This is the most interesting part of all this: we control 27 state legislatures and 31 governors' mansions.

00:52:32.000 I might have my numbers off a little bit, but the people continually elect Republicans, and then Republicans get paralysis when they're in power to actually do what the Democrats have done to us, which is use political power to destroy our country.

00:52:44.000 And so at some point, there has to be a reckoning here, which is that people keep showing up in massive numbers to give you power because they feel like they're losing their country.

00:52:56.000 It's time to wisely start using that power.

00:53:01.000 Amen.

00:53:02.000 Scott, what do you have for us, my friend?

00:53:07.000 If you would like to ask a question of Charlie, I'm going to walk up and down the aisles here.

00:53:11.000 Just raise your hand and I'll stop and see you.

00:53:12.000 We have a few.

00:53:13.000 All right, tell Charlie your name and come on over here.

00:53:15.000 I'll hold the mic so you can just come right here.

00:53:17.000 Your name and your question.

00:53:19.000 Hi, my name is Cade Busik.

00:53:20.000 I'm a junior accounting student at NDSU.

00:53:22.000 I'm kind of curious to hear how automation factors into your people-first technology, things like automated trucks or the removal of cashiers from places like grocery stores.

00:53:32.000 Do you think that's a good thing or a benefit to the country going forward?

00:53:35.000 Or do you think the loss of jobs is going to be detrimental to the country going forward?

00:53:38.000 Yeah, so this is a great question.

00:53:40.000 If you would have asked me that five years ago, I would have said, yeah, it's a great thing.

00:53:43.000 Things are getting better and we'll be able to have less human contact, I guess.

00:53:49.000 I could see an argument for why driverless cars are better from the auto fatality standpoint.

00:53:54.000 But until I'm willing to embrace the automation craze, which I'm not, that's part of my entire technology criticism, then you better have a very good reason, very good plan of what you're going to do with 15 million patriotic Americans that shelved all of your grocery stores and busted their tail to make sure you had a wonderful way of life the last couple decades.

00:54:17.000 And no one has an answer to that.

00:54:19.000 And another social welfare program is not going to satisfy me.

00:54:23.000 And so, again, I haven't studied that particular issue deeply, but if you said, Charlie, are you forward or against it?

00:54:28.000 I would probably be against it because I believe things are changing far too quickly.

00:54:33.000 And this is why I'm a conservative, not a libertarian.

00:54:36.000 I'm libertarian on a couple issues like firearms and lockdowns, because I'm very libertarian on guns.

00:54:41.000 I think the government has no business finding out about any of your guns ever.

00:54:45.000 That's my opinion.

00:54:48.000 But I'm not of that opinion when it comes to automation.

00:54:55.000 And because again, you're looking at already the displacements.

00:54:59.000 Let me use an example of this.

00:55:00.000 I was just in Hubbard, Ohio, earlier today for a funeral of a dear friend who was just awesome.

00:55:05.000 And his name is Tom Patrick.

00:55:07.000 He loved his country.

00:55:08.000 And for years, as I got to know him, I grew up in the conservative movement when you never questioned free trade, right?

00:55:16.000 Like that, you never talked about it.

00:55:18.000 Free trade is awesome.

00:55:18.000 Don't you understand?

00:55:19.000 We get all these piles of plastic from China. 0.98

00:55:21.000 Aren't you happy?

00:55:22.000 And I was too young and naive to really understand what was happening.

00:55:26.000 So I drove through Hubbard, Ohio.

00:55:27.000 It's a population of 7,000 people.

00:55:30.000 That's eastern Ohio.

00:55:31.000 Those are like the swing counties, right?

00:55:32.000 That's Trumbull County, Mahoney County.

00:55:34.000 You probably seen it on TV.

00:55:35.000 They view it as like kind of almost like the African jungle, like you go there to go meet a Trump voter, right?

00:55:42.000 Like that's one of those counties, right?

00:55:43.000 They come with their news trucks and they like film you like walking back and forth, right?

00:55:48.000 And so the I was driving through downtown Hubbard, Ohio this morning, and you guys know so many cities like this in North Dakota.

00:55:58.000 And so many just run-down businesses, completely closed manufacturing plants, but they had one business on the street corner.

00:56:08.000 They had a Dollar Tree.

00:56:10.000 And I just found that to be a massive middle finger to Hubbard, Ohio.

00:56:14.000 You know what that was, though?

00:56:15.000 No, I want you to think deeply about this.

00:56:17.000 They had a Dollar General five minutes down the street.

00:56:19.000 Made a couple of McDonald's and Wendy so we can go give the community diabetes.

00:56:22.000 Like that's the trade, right?

00:56:23.000 That somehow we're going to worship the corporate giants.

00:56:26.000 We can go get overweight and a bunch of cheap plastic from China.

00:56:29.000 And I said, oh my goodness, this is the best visual I've ever seen of this automation, low-cost craze.

00:56:35.000 Okay, so all the stuff used to be made within 100 square miles of Hubbard, Ohio.

00:56:40.000 That's in that dollar tree.

00:56:42.000 But our leaders decided that free trade was the best thing ever.

00:56:46.000 So we're going to go shut down all of those manufacturing plants in eastern Ohio because we're going to get cheaper stuff.

00:56:52.000 Not all for cheaper stuff.

00:56:53.000 I think that plays a component to trying to make a decision.

00:56:56.000 But then all of a sudden those manufacturing plants close and you're not going to find a new job for every single person.

00:57:00.000 So opioids come in.

00:57:02.000 Families fall apart.

00:57:04.000 Church tithes go down.

00:57:06.000 The school district has a little less money.

00:57:08.000 The aspirational ones go to big cities.

00:57:08.000 People move out.

00:57:10.000 And Hubbard, Ohio becomes this kind of slow-motion relic of a time that used to exist.

00:57:16.000 And for the people that are still there, they get the opportunity to go buy stuff for a dollar for the stuff that used to be made in Hubbard, Ohio.

00:57:24.000 And so we worshiped the God of seamless economic innovation for decades.

00:57:31.000 So I'm going to say for all the people that are trying to push that, excuse me, while I call a timeout, before we really soberly try to weigh the costs of always trying to have a small group of corporate oligarchs say what's best for us, or a bunch of investment bankers or private equity guys like Mitt Romney, who literally went around to manufacturing plants and gave them pink slips for a living.

00:57:52.000 I think that's a really unhealthy thing for our nation.

00:57:55.000 And I'm willing to pay a little bit more for products if it's made by my fellow countrymen. 0.99

00:58:00.000 So my partner.

00:58:08.000 How do you make that shift when you've got corporate CEOs, all they care about is Wall Street's quarterly earnings report?

00:58:15.000 What a great question.

00:58:17.000 The merger and acquisition model is one of the main problems because there's so much cheap money flowing around and we've indulged in this long-term debt cycle where we don't build companies anymore.

00:58:27.000 You guys do in North Dakota.

00:58:28.000 You're one of the few states that do.

00:58:30.000 But instead, you start companies and you sell companies.

00:58:32.000 I want you to think about that.

00:58:34.000 So we used in America, we used to build companies you would hand down to your kids or grandkids.

00:58:38.000 It'd be this multi-generational ownership.

00:58:40.000 Now we start companies and try to boost their valuation as quickly as possible and hand it off to some Wall Street firm that are just going to fire all of your friends that used to work there, give you a big check, and merge you into some sort of cog of a massive corporate machine.

00:58:53.000 So the system itself has to change.

00:58:55.000 And let me be very clear.

00:58:56.000 I believe markets are the best way to organize society.

00:58:59.000 I do.

00:58:59.000 I believe in private property.

00:59:00.000 I just gave a whole speech on entrepreneurship, and I hate lockdowns and government orders and edicts.

00:59:05.000 But if government is good for anything, it is about, as it says in the United States Constitution, protecting the general welfare of its citizenry.

00:59:13.000 And it must balance every public policy decision.

00:59:17.000 And so how do you change it?

00:59:19.000 Well, the short answer is that you guys have more power than you might think.

00:59:23.000 And so there's about 800 people here and thousands of people that will be watching here.

00:59:29.000 And probably a million people will listen to this because I'm going to rebroadcast it as a podcast.

00:59:33.000 And so if every person who hears me say this all of a sudden makes a decision, you know what?

00:59:37.000 I'm going to purchase my values for the rest of my life, even 5% or 10%.

00:59:43.000 That makes a huge difference.

00:59:44.000 In fact, I can tell you how big of a difference it made.

00:59:46.000 Coca-Cola is retreating on their entire thing.

00:59:49.000 They sent out this whole thing.

00:59:50.000 Like, we believe it's time to work together. 1.00

00:59:52.000 Like, actually, Coke, screw you. 0.99

00:59:54.000 I'm going to buy Pepsi. 0.98

00:59:55.000 Thank you so much.

00:59:56.000 Amen.

00:59:57.000 Amen.

00:59:58.000 And let me say one last thing.

01:00:01.000 Oh, sorry.

01:00:01.000 Yeah.

01:00:02.000 We're ready, Chris?

01:00:03.000 I'm literally a talk coach, so I could talk all day long.

01:00:05.000 All right, right here.

01:00:05.000 Go to the next question.

01:00:06.000 Gentlemen, what's your name?

01:00:08.000 My name's Mike, and I have a question about the incredible double standards that continue.

01:00:13.000 And the one that comes to mind the most to me is the 2016 election, where the Democrats protested and protested for three and a half years about Russia.

01:00:24.000 And then this past election, we can't have any hearings.

01:00:29.000 We can't have nothing.

01:00:30.000 Everything's shut down.

01:00:31.000 Social media is shut down.

01:00:33.000 News don't run stories.

01:00:36.000 And it's just a terrible corrupt system we have.

01:00:42.000 And I also want to thank you, Charlie, very much for appearing here in Bismarck.

01:00:46.000 And God bless you.

01:00:47.000 Thank you for saying that.

01:00:52.000 This is an unfortunate reality of the country we're living in right now.

01:00:55.000 If the left didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.

01:00:59.000 And it's all they have.

01:01:01.000 And it's to be on every single side of every issue.

01:01:04.000 I just love having Joe Biden debate himself on a previous issue.

01:01:08.000 Whatever issue it is he's been on the other side of.

01:01:12.000 But look, and this is that what you're actually pinpointing, though, is a deeper problem.

01:01:17.000 And I think we're all waking up to it.

01:01:19.000 And I think the awakening is going to happen before the actual end result.

01:01:24.000 I'm not talking about a religious awakening.

01:01:26.000 I'm happy to talk about that if people are interested because I think it's a separate issue.

01:01:29.000 I'm talking about the awakening of this double standard.

01:01:32.000 We've been lied to by the press.

01:01:33.000 There is a manipulative top-down scheme to social condition us and sit down and obey.

01:01:38.000 But the result is going to be what we do today that's actually going to materialize a year or two years from now.

01:01:44.000 So what do I mean by that?

01:01:45.000 It's going to be creating the next social media company.

01:01:48.000 It's going to be creating the next server farm.

01:01:50.000 It's going to be creating the next institution.

01:01:53.000 And we as conservatives are not great at building institutions.

01:01:56.000 Do you know why?

01:01:57.000 Because we're too busy building things that matter more than institutions, like our family and our communities.

01:02:02.000 And so now it's time for us to build things that are even bigger than that, that actually have a national appeal and a patriotic underpinning.

01:02:09.000 So, for example, we need to fix the distribution of information problem in our country.

01:02:15.000 It is massive.

01:02:15.000 It is real.

01:02:16.000 It is significant.

01:02:17.000 We're trying to do it through radio, and Scott's been amazing with that, and also through podcasting every single day, where we reach millions of people through over-the-top broadcasting.

01:02:27.000 I am on all the social media channels.

01:02:29.000 It's just a matter of time before they kick us off or until they render us completely useless.

01:02:34.000 And so that's actually how we're going to fix this.

01:02:36.000 They're never going to stop having double standards.

01:02:38.000 But the only way we're going to fix it, and how many people here say, man, if only my liberal friend or relative saw the things that I saw, then they wouldn't be liberal.

01:02:46.000 Everyone would agree with that.

01:02:47.000 It's a distribution of information problem.

01:02:50.000 And now we have to start getting into the weeds of fixing it.

01:02:53.000 And so it might be creating your own content.

01:02:55.000 It might you becoming your own channel of information, of doing a great job of covering the news.

01:03:00.000 All those things are really, really important.

01:03:03.000 And so what we can actually do about it is going to take a longer term project.

01:03:07.000 All right, we have more questions here.

01:03:08.000 A number of questions were gathered before this audience came.

01:03:10.000 I want to do one of those, and then this young lady has a question next to me.

01:03:13.000 Says, Charlie, what are some of the keywords or phrases that divide us?

01:03:17.000 And how can we as conservatives do better at defining those phrases?

01:03:21.000 Wow.

01:03:21.000 Okay.

01:03:21.000 So what are the keywords and phrases that divide us as conservatives or as the country?

01:03:26.000 It doesn't say that.

01:03:27.000 Okay, yeah.

01:03:27.000 So I'll say this with this whole idea that we're divided as a country.

01:03:32.000 Of course we are.

01:03:33.000 I mean, we have the left waging war on our culture.

01:03:36.000 Like, of course, we're divided.

01:03:37.000 It's about time we start drawing the lines and we win.

01:03:39.000 I mean, this idea that we're going to get back to this moment of peace and harmony anytime soon.

01:03:45.000 You just said they're militarizing downtown Minneapolis in D.C. because someone's going to have a trial of their peers and it's a result that they don't like.

01:03:52.000 We have Aunt Jemima gone with the wind, Dr. Seuss all canceled.

01:03:56.000 We have our children learning to hate themselves and hate our country.

01:04:00.000 We have 100,000 people pouring over our border every single month.

01:04:04.000 We're bringing in a million people into our country legally when our college graduates and our middle-class workers can't find jobs.

01:04:10.000 They want to take our weapons and they're suppressing us on social media.

01:04:13.000 And we're trying to find harmony.

01:04:18.000 The only way this ends, and this is not a popular thing for people to hear, it wins when we win.

01:04:23.000 It ends when we win.

01:04:24.000 And that means that we're going to have to convert and mobilize more people to our perspective to crush the American left in its current form.

01:04:33.000 And I do not mean physically, obviously, they mean that to us.

01:04:36.000 I mean that we're going to have to have the dominant cultural institutions.

01:04:39.000 We're going to have to win elections by bigger margins.

01:04:41.000 We're going to have to register more voters.

01:04:43.000 The things we do control, which are like nothing, which is talk, radio, and churches, we're going to have to get even more mobilized and engaged and involved.

01:04:51.000 And do I seek a time when we can get along with the left?

01:04:54.000 Of course I do.

01:04:55.000 It's not in my spirit to try to have discord.

01:04:58.000 But they're waging war on our home, everybody.

01:05:00.000 And I want you to look at America as our home.

01:05:02.000 And that's what it is.

01:05:04.000 And my grandfather didn't fight in World War II.

01:05:06.000 So some self-righteous 26-year-old wearing a full mask and antif outfit in Minneapolis can wage war on my home.

01:05:13.000 I'm not going to tolerate that any longer.

01:05:15.000 And you guys shouldn't either.

01:05:25.000 By the way, thank you for supporting the Mass Freedom Bill.

01:05:29.000 And so I listen to your podcast while I do my cleaning job and everything.

01:05:34.000 Thank you.

01:05:36.000 But every once in a while, I'll listen to the liberal podcasts like David Pachman or The Young Turks and stuff.

01:05:43.000 And every once in a while, they do sometimes stump me a little bit.

01:05:47.000 So I'm wondering, do you have any tips on when we're hearing the other side, like what to think about?

01:05:52.000 Should we not listen to the other side?

01:05:53.000 No, again, I listen to it somewhat.

01:05:55.000 Happy to help you navigate through any of their arguments.

01:05:59.000 And again, it's my job to think deeply about this.

01:06:02.000 You know, you should go live a happy life and not have to worry about this all the time.

01:06:06.000 No, but the fact you're actually worried about like listening to the other side and going through it says a lot about who you are and your character.

01:06:12.000 Yeah, we should listen.

01:06:13.000 Of course, again, I listen to the left quite often, and it's hard not to because, again, I own a smartphone to my own distaste.

01:06:22.000 I'm trying to divest from it.

01:06:23.000 In fact, my screen time is going down every single week this year.

01:06:26.000 That's my goal.

01:06:27.000 My goal is to get to less than an hour of screen time.

01:06:29.000 I think I'm going to get it, which is hard.

01:06:31.000 Good luck.

01:06:32.000 And so, which is, I get Apple news all the time, which is just filled with dribble.

01:06:39.000 I'm sure all of you guys do.

01:06:40.000 Apple gets a total pass in this whole thing, by the way, and they should.

01:06:43.000 They have access to basically every single smartphone in the country to push notify you with some ridiculous Washington Post article.

01:06:49.000 So, and I read the Times, and I commonly say in my podcast, I read the New York Times so you don't have to.

01:06:55.000 But look, I mean, I do encourage you to listen to podcasts that push your boundaries or pursue information that are rooted in truth.

01:07:06.000 And if a liberal podcast does that, tell me because I'd be very fascinated by that.

01:07:11.000 But generally, don't spend too much time on that.

01:07:13.000 If that's not part of your value system or your viewpoint, it could be fun, it can expand your horizon.

01:07:18.000 But most of why you're going to be listening is to make sense of the world with your deeply held beliefs so you can communicate it to others to keep persevering through what you're doing.

01:07:26.000 But if there's anything in particular I can help unpack for you, I'd be happy to do that.

01:07:30.000 I was just wondering, yeah, for some tips.

01:07:32.000 That's really good, though.

01:07:33.000 Thank you so much.

01:07:34.000 All right, time for two more.

01:07:34.000 Appreciate that.

01:07:36.000 Raise your hand.

01:07:37.000 We've got time for two more.

01:07:37.000 I got one over there.

01:07:38.000 Anyone else right here?

01:07:39.000 Okay.

01:07:40.000 We do have one that came in earlier from the young Republicans.

01:07:43.000 Do memes really spread the message, Charlie?

01:07:45.000 Do memes help spread the message?

01:07:46.000 I think part of it, I mean, sure, I think they probably got Donald Trump elected in 2016.

01:07:52.000 Yeah, I think it's partially yes.

01:07:55.000 I think that we obviously do a lot of them at Turning Point.

01:07:58.000 I'm not even on social media, so I'm not.

01:08:00.000 My team has all my logins.

01:08:02.000 That's how I actually found myself.

01:08:05.000 I'm such a happier person since I deleted all my social media apps.

01:08:08.000 And I literally just text them what I want tweeted.

01:08:10.000 It's actually a fun thing.

01:08:11.000 It's so funny.

01:08:11.000 I said that I deleted all my social media apps and some ridiculous reporter wrote it up.

01:08:16.000 Like, Charlie Kirk tweets 20 minutes after he says he deletes all his social media apps.

01:08:20.000 Like, yes, I deleted them.

01:08:21.000 I don't have access to them.

01:08:23.000 Other people, like, it's again, they don't actually believe I don't have them. 0.59

01:08:26.000 But I encourage you guys to maybe do one day a week or two days a week because I realize that I'm a much happier, more centered person because the value of who I am and what I believe and what I think has no influence on some random blue check person on Twitter. 0.52

01:08:40.000 It's actually things that I've read or I've prayed about. 0.64

01:08:43.000 And so I could speak so freely.

01:08:45.000 So people say, oh, Charlie, you're trending on Twitter.

01:08:47.000 There's 300,000 tweets about you.

01:08:49.000 I say, do you know what's so amazing?

01:08:50.000 It feels exactly the same as you're not trending on Twitter.

01:08:54.000 It's completely irrelevant.

01:08:55.000 It's not real life.

01:08:56.000 It's just some albatross of noise.

01:08:59.000 And so, do memes work?

01:09:02.000 I suppose they do.

01:09:03.000 Yeah.

01:09:03.000 And I think there's obviously a ceiling to that.

01:09:06.000 Another question on that note before Goodyear: this young man wants to know who tweets for Donald Trump.

01:09:10.000 Does Donald Trump tweet when he used to have a Twitter account?

01:09:13.000 No one tweets for Donald Trump anymore.

01:09:15.000 But yeah, yeah, he did.

01:09:17.000 He did it himself.

01:09:18.000 I've saw him tweet before.

01:09:19.000 I've seen him.

01:09:19.000 Yeah.

01:09:23.000 In case you were wondering, he was a one-finger guy.

01:09:29.000 All right, tell me your name.

01:09:34.000 My name is Levi Corum.

01:09:36.000 I'm a senior at Jamestown High School.

01:09:38.000 First thing, I just want to say thank you for setting the bar really high for us, young conservatives.

01:09:42.000 We really appreciate it.

01:09:43.000 Thank you for saying that.

01:09:48.000 I just have two questions here.

01:09:49.000 I'm going to be a freshman in college this fall, and I want to start a Turning Point USA group at Bethlehem University of Minnesota.

01:09:56.000 And how do I do that?

01:09:57.000 And then my second question is: in Joe Biden's first couple months as president, he's already gotten the stimulus bill out, and a very small percentage of that bill has gone to us, the people.

01:10:08.000 And now he wants to get an infrastructure plan, and a very small percentage of that plan wants to actually go to roads and bridges.

01:10:15.000 How much inflation are we going to face with these bills?

01:10:19.000 Big time.

01:10:20.000 If you own land, which there's plenty of it here in North Dakota, you're actually going to do quite well with inflation, unfortunately, because things you can touch and feel do very well when there's more dollars than value.

01:10:30.000 I'm going to talk about that one second.

01:10:32.000 First of all, happy to help you with the Turning Point USA thing.

01:10:35.000 We have Turning Point USA chapters all across the country, high school and college.

01:10:39.000 I want to thank those of you here tonight that support Turning Point.

01:10:42.000 You're doing a moral good for our nation.

01:10:43.000 These are the most courageous young people.

01:10:45.000 And I want to shout out the young Republicans here, wherever they are.

01:10:49.000 I met them.

01:10:49.000 I saw them.

01:10:50.000 They were great.

01:10:51.000 Terrific.

01:10:51.000 Oh, hi.

01:10:52.000 I'm sorry.

01:10:52.000 I'm looking in front.

01:10:52.000 You guys are awesome.

01:10:53.000 Keep up the great work.

01:10:54.000 They have courage.

01:10:55.000 You want to see courage?

01:10:56.000 Find a young conservative and outspoken about it.

01:10:58.000 I'm going to tell you a story, though, because we're actually not far from Minnesota of something that happened at White Bear Lake High School last week and a half.

01:11:06.000 A young lady by the name of Avery Severson wanted to start a turning point USA group at White Bear Lake High School.

01:11:11.000 You might know it, it's right outside of St. Paul.

01:11:13.000 And as soon as she decided to start a group, she was a couple days later met with these messages that she did not send, that she's never seen these horribly racist messages and accused of sending these messages.

01:11:24.000 So instead of having presumption of innocence, due process, the school went nuts.

01:11:30.000 The teachers had sponsored walkouts.

01:11:32.000 The students walked out of the school. 0.94

01:11:34.000 She had her name smeared and she was just completely almost destroyed by it.

01:11:38.000 She had to go to class with security.

01:11:40.000 She had to take off of school.

01:11:41.000 And so the FBI got involved, right?

01:11:44.000 Because it was potentially a hate crime.

01:11:45.000 They investigated it.

01:11:46.000 They exonerated her in a couple hours because they find out who actually did it.

01:11:50.000 Now, they interestingly won't release the name of the person who did it, obviously, because they said the person who did it poses no threat to fellow students in regards to social justice.

01:11:59.000 It's true.

01:12:00.000 It was all a hoax.

01:12:02.000 The school superintendent's own terms was a hoax.

01:12:05.000 She nearly had her entire life completely and totally destroyed just because she wanted to start a turning point USA chapter.

01:12:12.000 You guys and young Republicans have experienced similar sort of outrageous things that are happening.

01:12:16.000 So, but I want to commend you, and I hope you know the people over 50, the adults in the room here, I hope you draw inspiration from young people that are like, you know what?

01:12:24.000 I know the price and the cost, and I want to do it anyway.

01:12:28.000 Now, Bethel's not going to be an easy place to do that.

01:12:30.000 Like, that's not at all.

01:12:30.000 I'm going to be honest.

01:12:33.000 And I don't know that intimately, but I know it enough to know that it's probably been taken over by the woke industrial complex. 0.53

01:12:40.000 And so, good luck. 0.61

01:12:41.000 But we're going to be there to support you.

01:12:42.000 So, when you start the group and you want to advocate and they come after you, you're going to have an infrastructure behind you.

01:12:48.000 And we need courageous young people to stand up.

01:12:51.000 But please, for the adults, draw inspiration from these young people that want to do something to save their nation.

01:13:01.000 Charlie Kirk here, and I've warned you about home title theft, where cyber thieves remove you from your homes title and you become the owner.

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01:13:26.000 Name, address, personal information, and more, it's out there.

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01:14:05.000 It's such an honor to have you here.

01:14:07.000 And I just can't thank you enough for coming to North Dakota.

01:14:10.000 So my question is kind of a tactical question.

01:14:13.000 There is a group of local parents, grandparents, concerned citizens who are trying to convince the Bismarck School Board to lift the mask mandates.

01:14:24.000 Or give the parents schools in the schools or to give the parents the ability to make the decision if they want their child masked or not.

01:14:35.000 What kind of suggestions or tactics do you have for us to convince them to lift the mandate?

01:14:43.000 First of all, thank you for the question because the fact you guys care about that is awesome.

01:14:49.000 And again, we're one of the few nations on the planet right now that are actually pushing back against this.

01:14:53.000 You know, most of Europe just sits and takes it.

01:14:56.000 They have a couple protests here and there, but nothing like this.

01:14:58.000 And it's special and it's beautiful.

01:15:00.000 And it's what makes America America.

01:15:02.000 And you guys should be commended for that.

01:15:03.000 It's awesome.

01:15:04.000 And so tactically, make more noise.

01:15:07.000 You show up to the school board meetings if they have them with a group this big and you take public comment to 4.30 in the morning.

01:15:14.000 Seriously.

01:15:17.000 That's number one.

01:15:17.000 Number two, you have to come, I don't know, you probably have already done this, but come up with a title and a name for your group.

01:15:25.000 And don't make it necessarily issue specific if you want it to ever tackle other issues in the future.

01:15:31.000 So it could be moms for child safety or whatever it is, or moms for, you know, moms for local reform.

01:15:37.000 You can make it very generic.

01:15:39.000 But once it's a group, then all of a sudden it has real power.

01:15:43.000 And it's not just kind of this like sparing thing, like, oh, there's a couple people.

01:15:46.000 No, there's infrastructure and we have membership and we can contact them and we can mobilize them and we have hierarchy and we meet regularly.

01:15:54.000 That threatens people.

01:15:55.000 You see what I'm saying?

01:15:56.000 A couple of people speaking out.

01:15:58.000 All of a sudden, as soon as you have a name and you have maybe a logo and a website, then all of a sudden it's a very legitimate thing.

01:16:05.000 And just the idea that this is even controversial, that we're going to mandate young kids that are not at risk at all, significant risk of dying from the Chinese coronavirus, that we are going to...

01:16:16.000 If I had to wear a mask in high school, it would have destroyed my high school experience.

01:16:21.000 And I mean, we are social beings.

01:16:23.000 We are meant to be able to see people's facial reactions.

01:16:26.000 God gave us a face for a reason.

01:16:27.000 It is the argument we used against the Islamic fundamentalists when they push masks for a different reason.

01:16:33.000 Mask mandates all throughout the Middle East because we believe that connection with human beings is something very special.

01:16:39.000 And so I think they said you wanted to say something too, right?

01:16:42.000 No, I think that's the thing.

01:16:44.000 I wanted to share with you.

01:16:45.000 There's a fantastic, brand new Stanford peer-reviewed study regarding masks.

01:16:50.000 Thank you.

01:16:51.000 And they're like, hey, these things don't work, right?

01:16:53.000 I mean, it's fantastic.

01:16:54.000 Yeah, and again, it draws good skepticism towards it.

01:16:57.000 It finds, it doesn't say they don't necessarily don't work.

01:16:59.000 It's just like they see no evidence that they do work.

01:17:01.000 I know those are two different things, but if you don't use that language, then all of a sudden they're going to come after you.

01:17:06.000 But I don't mean to be semantically technical, but I literally got kicked off Facebook because of something like this, because I used one word wrong on the Dante Wright thing.

01:17:17.000 I got to tell this story.

01:17:18.000 So I don't know if you guys saw this video I did on Dante Wright.

01:17:20.000 It got like six million views in like 24 hours.

01:17:22.000 I was literally going for a walk and I just decided to do this video.

01:17:25.000 So Facebook fact checks the video and makes me take it down because they say, oh, you got a fact wrong.

01:17:30.000 I said, what fact did I get wrong?

01:17:31.000 They said, you said he was wanted for a warrant for aggravated robbery, when in reality, he was wanted on a weapons charge.

01:17:37.000 I said, oh, yeah, what a wonderful human being this guy was.

01:17:39.000 Like, I mean, the essence of what I was saying is that he was wanted on a warrant.

01:17:43.000 And they said, oh, you got it wrong.

01:17:44.000 Anyways, that really matters.

01:17:46.000 You have to get, or else the spread of information gets, you know, gets impacted.

01:17:51.000 I do have one more here, Chris.

01:17:52.000 If you're ready, otherwise, up to you.

01:17:55.000 Okay, you ready?

01:17:55.000 Let's do it.

01:17:56.000 Okay.

01:17:57.000 Let's go here and see this young man right over here.

01:18:00.000 With a quick question.

01:18:01.000 Go ahead for Charlie.

01:18:01.000 Okay.

01:18:02.000 Tell me your name.

01:18:04.000 My name is Ryan Baibetto.

01:18:05.000 I'm actually a nephew of Amber Bavetto.

01:18:08.000 I go to Ireland's Christian School.

01:18:10.000 I'm a junior.

01:18:11.000 And I was wondering, as abortion is ravaging the country, what are some arguments against the argument, it's my body, it's my choice.

01:18:23.000 My journey, not yours.

01:18:25.000 I have a tough time with that argument, but I was just wondering if there's any counter-arguments to that.

01:18:32.000 First of all, thank you.

01:18:33.000 I'm going to help you right now.

01:18:34.000 I'm going to give you a one-liner.

01:18:35.000 If it's not your DNA, it's not your choice.

01:18:40.000 So it's a separate point of DNA.

01:18:43.000 And I actually got that one liner, and I'll give you a couple more.

01:18:46.000 I've done a lot.

01:18:47.000 So I actually got that.

01:18:48.000 I was at the March for Life last year before all the lockdowns, and there was this eight-year-old girl with this sign.

01:18:52.000 And it said that if it's not your DNA, it's not your choice.

01:18:55.000 I said there is more wisdom on that sign than the entire Harvard faculty.

01:18:59.000 I said that one sign is just awesome.

01:19:02.000 And it's true.

01:19:03.000 What is conception?

01:19:04.000 It's when DNA is formed.

01:19:06.000 That is a scientific fact.

01:19:08.000 The heartbeat begins as early as 21 days.

01:19:11.000 Some people say six weeks.

01:19:13.000 It depends how you define a heartbeat.

01:19:14.000 21 days is legitimately when the heartbeat begins.

01:19:17.000 Here's a couple thought-provoking questions: not your journey, not your choice.

01:19:21.000 I actually haven't heard that one.

01:19:22.000 That one's interesting and new.

01:19:26.000 Why is it that when a pregnant mother gets murdered, we count it as a double homicide?

01:19:33.000 Why is it that when a pregnant mother has a baby shower, not a fetus shower, that she could all of a sudden decide then to go to an abortion clinic right after that and decide to terminate that pregnancy?

01:19:48.000 So, what really we're debating here is a subjective view or an objective view of life.

01:19:52.000 That's basically what we're debating.

01:19:54.000 And so, we have a lot of ways in America we actually have come to a consensus of when life ends.

01:20:00.000 We have no consensus of when life begins.

01:20:02.000 That's probably an even more important question.

01:20:04.000 It's a fundamental question of who we are.

01:20:06.000 And so, we know when life begins, it's when deoxorbonucleic acid is formed, and that's never going to happen again.

01:20:11.000 It's when the sperm and egg meet.

01:20:12.000 It's a magical moment that only quite honestly can't be explained by science, but a belief in a creator who loves us and wants us to be able to reproduce because we're made in his image.

01:20:22.000 So, a couple of things to think about, a couple other things to think about is this: which is sometimes they'll throw at you the rape and abortion thing.

01:20:32.000 Well, first of all, that's less than 1% of all abortions in our country.

01:20:35.000 99% of all abortions are elective abortions because people do not want them.

01:20:39.000 They're abortions of inconvenience.

01:20:41.000 While there are millions of people wanting children for adoption, there are robust Christian ministries for children to be able to enter this world. 0.94

01:20:51.000 And what they're really trying to say, and what they're arguing in that moment, is that I want an escape hatch for a decision that I made.

01:21:00.000 And that all of a sudden is saying, I want to prevent another person from living because I regret something I did.

01:21:07.000 And that in any sort of moral construct is never acceptable when you think about it.

01:21:11.000 Is saying, I'm going to do, I'm going to prevent someone from being able to exist because I wish I wouldn't have done something.

01:21:17.000 It's separate on the other issue.

01:21:18.000 I'm happy to go in on the rape and incest issue, but not necessarily worth it right now.

01:21:22.000 I did a whole speech on that recently.

01:21:25.000 The final thing I'll say, the final, final, final thing I'll see is this: which is we've aborted 60 million people since Roe versus Wade.

01:21:32.000 And there was another decision.

01:21:33.000 Roe and Doe were happening simultaneously.

01:21:36.000 I actually just learned this from Kristen Hawkins from Students for Life.

01:21:39.000 60 million people.

01:21:41.000 And if we believe that life begins at conception and we've allowed 60 million people to be aborted from our country, then that's a moral stain on who we are as a nation. 0.97

01:21:53.000 Maybe we wouldn't need to bring in all these immigrants into our country to go do the jobs other people won't do, which is not true, by the way, if we didn't abort a million of our own citizens every single year. 0.97

01:22:01.000 They say Black Lives Matter. 1.00

01:22:02.000 Did you know that 46% of all the abortions in our country are black children?

01:22:06.000 That if you know, if you see a black pregnant woman on the subway in New York City, she's more likely going to the abortion clinic than going to the delivery room.

01:22:13.000 The abortion rate is higher than the birth rate in New York City.

01:22:16.000 It's become a form of birth control.

01:22:18.000 They used to say it's going to be safe and rare, and it's been anything but that.

01:22:24.000 It's abundant, and actually, it has a huge amount of spiritual harm. 0.95

01:22:27.000 It has a huge amount of mental harm on the women that actually do it. 0.90

01:22:31.000 I'll say one thing to all of us that are pro-life.

01:22:33.000 We have to do a better job for the women that have had abortions to have compassion and not make them the brunt of our criticism.

01:22:39.000 Instead, go after the abortionists. 0.90

01:22:41.000 They're not doctors.

01:22:42.000 I'm not even close to being doctors. 0.99

01:22:43.000 They're abortionists, the ones that practice these abortions and go after them.

01:22:47.000 But I'll just kind of close how I started, which is that we do not have a moral right to terminate a life that is not our own, and it's not her body.

01:22:56.000 She's the temporary host of somebody else's body, and the science tells us that.

01:23:00.000 When I talk to parents, they're so concerned right now because they feel like as they send their kids off to some high school or some colleges, it's these indoctrination camps.

01:23:08.000 You just brought up DNA.

01:23:10.000 We're now in a place in the world where chromosomes are not science.

01:23:14.000 Wow.

01:23:14.000 Yeah.

01:23:15.000 I mean, that is like.

01:23:16.000 So I guess my question to you is, what would you say to parents and young people here about, okay, if you feel like you're sending your kids doing a doctor indoctrination camp, here's some things you should be doing.

01:23:26.000 Yeah, and I actually don't know how your state schools are here.

01:23:28.000 I don't.

01:23:29.000 So when I talk about colleges, please understand it's most of the other schools across the country.

01:23:35.000 I don't know if your schools are doing a good job or a bad job or an okay job on the issue of indoctrination.

01:23:39.000 I don't.

01:23:40.000 So I don't mean to impart any sort of not so good of a job, not good, pretty liberal.

01:23:47.000 Yeah. 0.93

01:23:48.000 You see, they're awful.

01:23:49.000 See, this is what I can't understand.

01:23:51.000 And so, but this is an example of Democrats using political power and we don't. 0.98

01:23:57.000 We fund these schools and we have Republicans in every chamber of power and yet we tolerate this garbage. 0.97

01:24:03.000 I do not understand why this is acceptable. 0.99

01:24:07.000 And if they're garbage and you say they are, the students themselves are saying that, then I just don't get it. 0.92

01:24:13.000 But look, let me just say this for everyone out here, and I think this is actually going to resonate with this audience. 0.97

01:24:17.000 I gave this very same little thing I just am about to give to a bunch of Manhattan businessmen, and it was totally silent.

01:24:24.000 It was silent.

01:24:25.000 And so they were.

01:24:29.000 And this is how it goes.

01:24:30.000 Not everyone needs to go to college to succeed in America.

01:24:33.000 In fact, we have way too many people going to college in America.

01:24:37.000 And let me walk you through it.

01:24:40.000 The numbers speak for themselves.

01:24:42.000 We have a deficit in America of welders, electricians, and plumbers, carpenters, police officers, and entrepreneurs.

01:24:47.000 And we have far too many people that have gone to these universities and be filled with bad ideas, filled with debt, that have no direction, and have been taught to hate the country.

01:24:56.000 College should be about getting a skill, not ideological exploration.

01:25:02.000 If you go there to go find yourself, you're going to lose yourself.

01:25:05.000 41% of people that go to college drop out.

01:25:07.000 They never should have gone to the first place.

01:25:08.000 Let me say that again for emphasis.

01:25:10.000 41% of people that go to college drop out.

01:25:13.000 Out of the people that do graduate, only 10% are in science, technology, engineering, or math.

01:25:18.000 The people that are in the soft social sciences, psychology, North African lesbian poetry, North American migratory bird studies, they have very low, they have very low chance of actually getting a job in that field.

01:25:35.000 And so, obviously, you'd be amazed at some of the stuff I've seen.

01:25:41.000 So what we really have here is we've decided to try to have an entire generation of young people to go borrow money they don't have, to go find, to go study things that don't matter, to find jobs that don't exist.

01:25:54.000 And then all of a sudden we're really kind of confused why they all moved to Minneapolis and they want to go burn down the entire country.

01:26:03.000 But I do want to say this, that it's not all the young people's fault.

01:26:06.000 It's not.

01:26:06.000 In fact, I'm not one to play into the victim thing.

01:26:08.000 I hate victim culture.

01:26:10.000 You guys know this.

01:26:11.000 But I'm going to give a little bit of grace to young people, which is that they've been mistreated by the generation that was supposed to be guardians.

01:26:18.000 They were told a lie.

01:26:19.000 And they were told a lie to go to college and check all these boxes and borrow this money and do all these things and their life was going to get better.

01:26:25.000 And it's a absolute, none of the data shows that.

01:26:28.000 None of it.

01:26:29.000 And yet we do that because, and I don't necessarily think it's the case here in North Dakota, but in most places, parents are afraid to turn to their neighbors and tell their neighbors their kid isn't going to college.

01:26:39.000 Like they're afraid to go to the grocery store and all of a sudden see, you know, someone that they know and be like, yeah, Henry's doing just fine and he's become a plumber and he's not going to North Dakota State or he's not going to University of Minnesota.

01:26:52.000 Becoming a plumber is like a pejorative in most social circles.

01:26:56.000 I love plumbers.

01:26:57.000 Why?

01:26:58.000 They are the least appreciated people.

01:27:01.000 Could you imagine a world without plumbers or good plumbers?

01:27:04.000 No.

01:27:04.000 And so what's really happened here, I want you to view America in the term of two different economic classes.

01:27:11.000 It's not middle class and all this.

01:27:12.000 No, no, no.

01:27:13.000 There's two classes.

01:27:14.000 There's the Zoom and Skype class, people that open their laptop for a living.

01:27:18.000 And then there's the muscular class.

01:27:21.000 The people that roll up their sleeves that actually keep the economy going.

01:27:24.000 The truck drivers.

01:27:25.000 The people that work on the oil rigs.

01:27:27.000 The people that work in the butcher shops.

01:27:29.000 The people that actually help make the agricultural backbone.

01:27:35.000 Farmers, yes, obviously.

01:27:38.000 That help make all of this possible.

01:27:42.000 The people that are in the daily grind more than ever.

01:27:47.000 And we have decided as a country that we don't care about the muscular class, that we want everyone to go get a piece of paper from a meaningless institution to go be filled with really bad ideas in debt.

01:27:58.000 Well, that makes perfect Democrat voters, first of all.

01:28:00.000 You want to know why the country, I mean, that is a Democrat vote-producing scheme.

01:28:05.000 But young people did all the right things that they were told to do.

01:28:09.000 And then all of a sudden, we wonder why they're 30 years old, unmarried, renting an apartment in Minnesota, not owning land, big difference.

01:28:17.000 We have a renter's crisis.

01:28:18.000 We have way too many people renting because they can't afford to own because they're in debt because they went to college.

01:28:24.000 And then we wonder why they're all of a sudden so liberal.

01:28:26.000 And so I want you guys to understand this for a second.

01:28:30.000 I understand why young people are attracted to Bernie Sanders, and it's not because of free stuff.

01:28:35.000 It's partially that, but it's not.

01:28:36.000 And you guys have to understand this.

01:28:37.000 They look at Bernie Sanders for freedom.

01:28:40.000 And you guys laugh and you should, but there's a part of this that's true.

01:28:44.000 How would you feel if you were $145,000 in debt and someone said they could make that debt go away?

01:28:50.000 It's a form of freedom.

01:28:52.000 They are a slave to the debt because they check the boxes you told them to go check.

01:28:56.000 And Bernie Sanders to them is their Moses or their Harriet Tubman.

01:29:00.000 They're going to lead them out of that slavery of student loan debt.

01:29:03.000 That's why he's popular with so many young people.

01:29:06.000 And it's also the free stuff stuff and all that. 0.89

01:29:07.000 But it's also like we told our generation to go do this garbage and then we're like, oh, they're a bunch of victims. 0.68

01:29:15.000 Like there's part of that that's true. 0.97

01:29:17.000 They should pull themselves by the bootstraps.

01:29:19.000 They should stop complaining and stop throwing Molotov cocktails at police officers, obviously.

01:29:22.000 Stop doing all that stuff, right?

01:29:24.000 Like that's not good.

01:29:25.000 But there's also a part of it where parents have to realize, man, we screwed up.

01:29:30.000 Like we sent an entire generation of our most valuable asset, which is our young people.

01:29:35.000 The most valuable asset is not found in the Permian Basin.

01:29:37.000 It's not fountain cold mines.

01:29:38.000 It's young people.

01:29:39.000 The country goes and lives and survives based on young people. 0.94

01:29:43.000 And we're producing indebted and ungrateful young people because we told them to go do a sequence of events that actually does not help them. 0.91

01:29:52.000 And then we decide to lock down our whole country so they can't find jobs and they're not able to build wealth.

01:29:58.000 And we go ACH them $1,900 payment as if that's going to do anything.

01:30:03.000 And so what to do about it?

01:30:05.000 Look, some people should go to college.

01:30:09.000 You should go to get a skill.

01:30:11.000 You should be able to answer this question.

01:30:13.000 It's the most simple question.

01:30:14.000 Why are you going to college?

01:30:16.000 And if the answer is my parents are making me, that's a bad reason.

01:30:20.000 If the answer is they have a good sports team, that's a bad reason.

01:30:23.000 If the answer is my counselor is making me, that's a bad reason.

01:30:26.000 If the answer is all my friends are going, that's a bad reason.

01:30:30.000 Here's a good answer.

01:30:30.000 I'll give you a good answer.

01:30:32.000 I'm going to North Dakota State because it's affordable and because I think I can graduate quickly and I want to go become an engineer.

01:30:41.000 I don't know if they have an engineering school or not.

01:30:42.000 I'm guessing they do.

01:30:45.000 And I believe that I can get that skill to go live a robust and fulfilling life.

01:30:50.000 That's a good answer.

01:30:51.000 Less than 1% of college kids can answer it in that way.

01:30:54.000 Instead, they're like deers and headlights when you ask them.

01:30:57.000 Not these young people because they're directed and they're conservative, but most of them, they're like, I'm here because everyone else is here and we're just kind of meandering together.

01:31:05.000 It's all part of this scheme, I really believe it is, to try and make us less free thinking, less independent, and more likely to try to be a cog and a machine.

01:31:15.000 And so I'm a big critic of college.

01:31:17.000 I think we have to get college enrollment down like 50% to save the country.

01:31:17.000 I think we have to decline.

01:31:21.000 Last question.

01:31:23.000 When you and I were chatting earlier, we said, Chris, the most important thing people are going to be doing is you've got to take action.

01:31:27.000 We feel right now like we're trying to save the greatest nation in the world.

01:31:31.000 So if everybody here tonight and the group that brought you here talks about getting involved locally, right?

01:31:36.000 What's one or two things you would say?

01:31:38.000 Here's what you can do to make an impact and make a difference.

01:31:41.000 Yeah, so I'm going to do a totally shameless plug.

01:31:43.000 Is that okay?

01:31:44.000 Please.

01:31:44.000 Of one thing that I think that the young lady who asked the question, has my podcast helped you in any way?

01:31:50.000 All right.

01:31:51.000 She's singularly applauding.

01:31:52.000 Okay, so look, we do a lot of thinking on our podcast and a lot of exploring of these ideas, a lot of action items of things as they arise.

01:32:01.000 People to support, heroes to get behind.

01:32:03.000 It's a daily news flow of action.

01:32:05.000 That's why our podcast has skyrocketed from nothing to be able to compete with the giants, right?

01:32:11.000 And so the way that we are able to not get canceled and censored is when people subscribe to our podcast and get behind it.

01:32:18.000 And so if every person here, there's 800 people here.

01:32:20.000 So the way the podcast charts work is a rush of new subscribers.

01:32:24.000 So I have this obsession about beating Rachel Maddow in the podcast charts, right?

01:32:28.000 No, it's true.

01:32:29.000 No, it's a very real thing.

01:32:31.000 And so Rachel Maddow and I go back and forth.

01:32:34.000 She's currently beating me in the podcast charts because she plugged it on her show.

01:32:38.000 And so if every person in this room took out their phone, I know we talked about how much we hate phones, but every Apple phone has a podcast app.

01:32:47.000 And if you type in Charlie Kirk show and hit subscribe, it's free of charge.

01:32:50.000 It literally takes 15 seconds.

01:32:52.000 We would beat Rachel Maddow in the podcast charts tomorrow, which is a moral good for our republic.

01:32:57.000 And so if you do not know how to do it, go find a 14-year-old.

01:33:01.000 They'll walk you through it.

01:33:02.000 Or Levi, right?

01:33:03.000 Levi can help you.

01:33:04.000 And so that is a shameless plug, but it actually really helps us a lot.

01:33:08.000 It grows our podcast audience, and it makes us less likely to be canceled.

01:33:12.000 We have some amazing conversations on there.

01:33:14.000 This one will be rebroadcast.

01:33:15.000 If you're like, wow, he made me think about this.

01:33:17.000 We're going to get rebroadcast here.

01:33:18.000 So I would consider it a personal blessing and favor if you guys did that, pulled out your phone and subscribed.

01:33:23.000 Okay, you did it?

01:33:24.000 Subscribe.

01:33:25.000 Hey, there you go.

01:33:26.000 Awesome.

01:33:27.000 Thank you.

01:33:28.000 Right there?

01:33:29.000 Thank you so much.

01:33:29.000 It's a great blessing and favor to me.

01:33:31.000 Okay, let's get more local.

01:33:33.000 What you guys are doing with the moms is so critically important.

01:33:36.000 In fact, the number one demographic, actually number one or two demographic on our podcast, believe it or not, are 30 to 45-year-old women of young mothers.

01:33:43.000 And our advertisers look at us.

01:33:45.000 They're like, your demographics are so surprising for a conservative podcast.

01:33:51.000 And I say, yeah, it's because we talk about action items of what to do. 0.98

01:33:55.000 I have a whole belief on this, and no offense to men, but only mothers can save this country at this point. 0.99

01:34:00.000 I actually believe this. 1.00

01:34:01.000 Mothers have to rise up and make noise. 1.00

01:34:03.000 And here's a reason for this. 0.98

01:34:04.000 It's true.

01:34:05.000 And by the way, there's a pro-men argument for this, which is they're just better at this, okay?

01:34:11.000 They are.

01:34:12.000 No, let's just be honest.

01:34:14.000 And I want every mother across America to think of what's happening to your country as if it's happening in your home to your children, right?

01:34:22.000 What a mother would not do for your children, right?

01:34:25.000 There's something really special and magical and biblical and beautiful and wondrous about that, right?

01:34:30.000 And so I just want to commend you for doing that.

01:34:32.000 But I want you to come on to points of action.

01:34:34.000 Number one, we as conservatives have to get louder.

01:34:37.000 That's right.

01:34:38.000 We have to get louder.

01:34:39.000 We have to do more public displays of support like this.

01:34:41.000 We have to get more friends engaged or involved.

01:34:44.000 Number two, we have to know our stuff.

01:34:46.000 That's what we're trying to provide through our lines of communication.

01:34:48.000 Read the great books.

01:34:49.000 Take the Hillsdale online courses.

01:34:51.000 Be always armed with the information necessary to be able to refute your friends.

01:34:56.000 And by the way, don't get complacent.

01:34:57.000 North Dakota is on their list to try to flip this state soon.

01:35:00.000 So don't act as if this is going to be a Republican state forever.

01:35:03.000 I were headquartered in Arizona.

01:35:05.000 It used to be a robust Republican state that now voted for Joe Biden and has two Democrat senators and has more Democrat congressmen than Republican congressmen.

01:35:13.000 These states can flip like that.

01:35:15.000 And if I can say a totally weird thing that you've never allowed, the mayor of Bismarck might like yank me off stage.

01:35:21.000 I have a whole theory about this.

01:35:22.000 I did a whole podcast on this: that do not allow tall buildings to be built in North Dakota.

01:35:27.000 I have a whole theory on this.

01:35:28.000 The taller the buildings, the more liberal the area is.

01:35:31.000 It's a rule across America.

01:35:32.000 There's a reason for this, though.

01:35:33.000 There's a reason for it.

01:35:34.000 I know he's like, oh, you're going to screw up all my development.

01:35:37.000 No, there's actually a reason for this.

01:35:38.000 That you're less likely to own the higher the building goes.

01:35:43.000 And it's the tragedy of the commons.

01:35:44.000 When you're less likely to own, you're more likely to become a liberal.

01:35:47.000 How did Minneapolis and Atlanta and Dallas and Phoenix all of a sudden become these liberal hotbeds?

01:35:52.000 They went up and not horizontal because they are not actually in the earth.

01:35:56.000 They're not in the soil of what actually makes America special.

01:35:59.000 So they're like, oh, yeah, we'll go tax all those people.

01:36:01.000 We'll take their guns.

01:36:01.000 We don't need it.

01:36:02.000 We live on the ninth floor.

01:36:03.000 We look down on them.

01:36:04.000 Literally, the higher America has become, the lower our politics has become.

01:36:09.000 And so just please have a moratorium on new buildings being built.

01:36:12.000 You got plenty of land.

01:36:13.000 Have people go build it.

01:36:14.000 Seriously, no more tall buildings in North Dakota.

01:36:17.000 No more.

01:36:18.000 Anyway, so that's a strangely fantastic.

01:36:22.000 I did not think I was going to come talk about that tonight.

01:36:25.000 And by the way, the developers can't stand when I talk about this stuff.

01:36:29.000 They're like, oh, no, America's better because we have taller buildings.

01:36:32.000 Like, no, we're not.

01:36:33.000 Nothing about our greatness comes in 110 buildings.

01:36:36.000 Like, that's not our greatness.

01:36:37.000 Anyway, so what else we can do is, look, I want to tell you guys right now, if we commit to this, we're going to win.

01:36:43.000 And we're not just going to win a little bit, we're going to win massively.

01:36:46.000 And here's why.

01:36:47.000 There's the law of thermodynamics, the second law of thermodynamics.

01:36:49.000 Anyone know it?

01:36:50.000 Inevitable law of decay, right?

01:36:52.000 Things fall apart.

01:36:54.000 There's force equals mass times acceleration.

01:36:56.000 There's the law of gravity.

01:36:57.000 We know the laws of physics.

01:36:58.000 There's also the law of the left.

01:37:01.000 Do you know what the law of the left is?

01:37:03.000 Everything they touch destroys, gets destroyed.

01:37:07.000 They screw it all up.

01:37:08.000 It's the law of the left.

01:37:09.000 Everything that they do, they mess up.

01:37:12.000 So we're going to get another chance at this.

01:37:14.000 They're going to mess this up.

01:37:15.000 So the question is: what do we, as conservatives, people who love our country, do in the meantime?

01:37:21.000 We have to build new stuff.

01:37:22.000 We have to get behind the people that are boldly telling the truth and have courage.

01:37:27.000 You know, we promote my pillow on my show because that's someone who has courage and he's unafraid to do something, right?

01:37:34.000 And so that's.

01:37:39.000 And more than anything else, the best thing you could do is you have to write down on a piece of paper tonight something that's hard for you to do.

01:37:46.000 We are going to win.

01:37:49.000 Why is that important?

01:37:50.000 They want you to give up.

01:37:52.000 They want you to say the machines are broken.

01:37:54.000 The ballots are going to disappear.

01:37:56.000 That's the enemy whispering in your ear of surrender.

01:37:59.000 The hardest thing I have to do is get conservatives convinced to write down, we are going to win.

01:38:05.000 That's what you have to believe.

01:38:06.000 That we are going to build new institutions that are exciting.

01:38:09.000 That we want to have more American-born children.

01:38:12.000 That we want church attendance to go up.

01:38:13.000 We want opioid deaths to go down.

01:38:15.000 We want our children to love their country more than their parents do.

01:38:19.000 We want our kids to love America again.

01:38:22.000 And that's only going to happen if you write it down and then commit to a series of action that follows.

01:38:27.000 Here's the one thing that drives me nuts.

01:38:29.000 You know the thing I can't stand?

01:38:31.000 I'll tell you the two things, and then we'll do like a pastor's clothes.

01:38:33.000 So we'll be here for 45 minutes, right?

01:38:34.000 When you're like, I'm kidding.

01:38:36.000 No, which is this, which is when people ask me the question, so Charlie, do you think we're going to win?

01:38:42.000 And I do, but I say, you know why you're asking most times?

01:38:46.000 Because you want me to give you permission to give up.

01:38:49.000 Because if we are going to lose and it's baked, the script is written, then why act?

01:38:54.000 Right?

01:38:55.000 Why do anything?

01:38:56.000 You want me to give you a permission slip so you can go take a vacation and say, no, I was told I don't have to do anything.

01:39:02.000 That's why most people ask that question.

01:39:04.000 Then the second question I can't stand when people ask is they say, so Charlie, how's it going out there?

01:39:10.000 And I said, what are you talking about?

01:39:12.000 You know, out in the culture war out there.

01:39:14.000 I said, what am I?

01:39:15.000 Like Maximus from Gladiator?

01:39:17.000 Like, it's become a spectator sport.

01:39:20.000 It's become a thing where we watch Fox like, oh, Tucker's going to take care of it for me.

01:39:24.000 Trump's going to fight that battle for me.

01:39:26.000 Be honest, all of us did it, right?

01:39:28.000 We were all like, he's going to do that for me.

01:39:31.000 No, no, this is not a spectator sport any longer.

01:39:33.000 You got to get in the arena, everybody.

01:39:36.000 You got to get into the fight yourself.

01:39:39.000 So next time when someone says, no more do we ask that question like, oh, how's it going?

01:39:46.000 Like, I'll tell you how it's going.

01:39:47.000 We knocked on 400 doors.

01:39:49.000 We mobilized 800 people to a school board meeting.

01:39:51.000 We're running local candidates for office.

01:39:54.000 We're going to forbid critical race theory from coming to our schools.

01:39:56.000 We repeal the mask mandate.

01:39:58.000 We have all these new businesses that are popping up that share and love our values and we're supporting the heroes in our community that are doing the right things.

01:40:05.000 We're going and finding new heroes and supporting them every single day.

01:40:08.000 I no longer have to ask people what the fight's like because I'm in the fight myself.

01:40:12.000 And here's the thing that happens when you get in the fight.

01:40:14.000 Your life changes for the better and it gets more difficult.

01:40:17.000 It gets more difficult because all of a sudden your head's exposed.

01:40:19.000 You're going to lose a couple friends.

01:40:20.000 People are going to call you names.

01:40:21.000 You're going to have less free time and you worry all the time.

01:40:25.000 But the Bible says be anxious and nothing.

01:40:27.000 And then all of a sudden you kind of get down.

01:40:28.000 You're good.

01:40:29.000 Okay, good.

01:40:30.000 Victory's already assured because the battle's already won, right?

01:40:32.000 It's like kind of that up and down thing that happens every day.

01:40:35.000 And then when you're in it, though, you no longer feel helpless.

01:40:40.000 What makes us different than all the other countries, the French and the Italians and the Greeks, God bless them.

01:40:45.000 They do leisure well.

01:40:46.000 We solve problems here.

01:40:47.000 We do.

01:40:48.000 That's what Americans do.

01:40:50.000 They enjoy themselves.

01:40:51.000 That's why we go there for vacation, okay?

01:40:53.000 We solve problems.

01:40:56.000 So we have a problem.

01:40:57.000 And if we combine all of our intelligence and all the courage, and I know that's in this room and in our country, that statement that you wrote on that piece of paper becomes true.

01:41:05.000 We are going to win.

01:41:07.000 And that only happens, though, when we have the boldness and the courage that I know exists.

01:41:12.000 Final thing I'll say, I promise.

01:41:14.000 When Pearl Harbor was bombed, it was an awful day for America.

01:41:18.000 But there was one man who was the greatest man ever to live in the 20th century who smiled.

01:41:23.000 And he went into his war cabinet with a smile on his face.

01:41:27.000 And they said, sir, didn't you hear the news?

01:41:28.000 All these Americans died.

01:41:29.000 He said, the war is over. 0.98

01:41:31.000 We have won.

01:41:33.000 He said, what are you talking about?

01:41:34.000 He said, the Americans are in the game.

01:41:37.000 We've won the war.

01:41:39.000 It's just a matter of time.

01:41:41.000 What is the truth of that?

01:41:42.000 We might be late to the game sometimes.

01:41:44.000 We might be worried about building our families in our churches.

01:41:47.000 But when Americans step up, we are going to win.

01:41:51.000 And that is the message I want you guys to carry with you.

01:41:54.000 God bless you guys.

01:41:55.000 Thank you so much.

01:41:56.000 Thank you.

01:41:59.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:42:01.000 Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:42:03.000 And please consider supporting us at charliekirk.com slash support.

01:42:07.000 God bless you guys.

01:42:08.000 Speak to you soon.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 13, 2021

How Smartphones are Strangling the Soul of America

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