The Charlie Kirk Show - How the Church Can Build Something New in America—LIVE from Cornerstone Church in Fresno, California

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00:01:22.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:55.000 Well, welcome to Fresno.

00:01:56.000 First time to be in our big city.

00:01:59.000 Awesome to be here.

00:01:59.000 Thank you.

00:02:00.000 It's, you know, you and I were talking backstage.

00:02:03.000 The left, they could be tricksters.

00:02:04.000 I'll tell you what.

00:02:06.000 We had 7,000 reservations for this event, and you can never tell.

00:02:10.000 Imagine being so, such an awful person that you try to take tickets away from other people.

00:02:15.000 Anyway, we were going backstage.

00:02:17.000 You're like, well, we could kind of spend all of our time on how the left tried to derail this event because that's what they do.

00:02:22.000 They do tickets to try to prevent other people from coming and making it seem as if it's going to be, you know, the way it is.

00:02:28.000 Anyway, I said, but you know what?

00:02:29.000 Look at all these amazing people that are here right now.

00:02:31.000 We're going to have a great event.

00:02:32.000 So that's what we're going to do.

00:02:34.000 So so you guys got the intimate seats here.

00:02:38.000 And just think about this now.

00:02:40.000 Think how special you are.

00:02:41.000 Charlie travels all over the country to packed auditoriums that you got to share him with thousands of people.

00:02:48.000 And you get to spend an intimate night with him here.

00:02:52.000 And we said somebody's lives tonight is going to change.

00:02:56.000 I know that because the enemy would love to, you know, throw division and rancor and all that.

00:03:00.000 So I don't know who you are, but whoever that is, your life is going to change tonight.

00:03:04.000 So excited to get going.

00:03:05.000 So you're here on purpose.

00:03:07.000 I'll just say that.

00:03:08.000 Okay, so let's get started, Charlie.

00:03:11.000 You're in California now, the People's Republic.

00:03:14.000 There you go.

00:03:15.000 So how do you see California?

00:03:18.000 Because I'll take advantage of you.

00:03:20.000 Travel everywhere and that.

00:03:22.000 Describe California as people outside of California see California.

00:03:26.000 Boy, how do I see California?

00:03:31.000 Yeah, I have to, I feel as if I have to show my passport when I land in California.

00:03:36.000 It's a like a separate country.

00:03:38.000 I will say this.

00:03:38.000 I think California is, first of all, just objectively one of the most beautiful places on the planet.

00:03:44.000 It really is.

00:03:44.000 I have a theory about California, which is how much does weather mean to a human being?

00:03:51.000 Because everything else is terrible.

00:03:53.000 The schools are awful.

00:03:54.000 The church, some of the churches are good, but the schools are awful.

00:03:57.000 The roads are terrible.

00:03:58.000 Taxes are terrible.

00:03:59.000 You know, people are leaving the state, but it's the mornings.

00:04:01.000 I mean, come on.

00:04:02.000 I mean, and I don't know, a lesser extent here in the Central Valley, but in Orange County, they always say, but the weather is worth the 13% income tax and the terrible politics.

00:04:12.000 But look, I look at California as an opportunity.

00:04:15.000 I'm an optimist.

00:04:16.000 I think that things are starting to turn in a favorable and better direction right now in our country.

00:04:20.000 I really do.

00:04:22.000 And look, California obviously has its problems, but it also has its fighters.

00:04:27.000 Looking, you know, I live in Arizona, looking into California, I see the most brave and courageous pastors in America, one of them on stage with me, by the way, are here in California.

00:04:38.000 I see people that are fighting, even though they've been told there's no way they can win, that the cost is overwhelming.

00:04:45.000 And so, look, as an onlooker to this beautiful and this wonderful state, I understand that it can be frustrating, that you might be outnumbered, but we're called to continue to fight.

00:04:56.000 We're called to hate evil and to do good.

00:04:59.000 And look, California has its own wackiness, obviously, its own corruption embedded in it.

00:05:05.000 But I could say this: that America would be a substantially less free country as a whole if it wasn't for the heroes and the fighters in the grassroots here in this beautiful state.

00:05:15.000 I truly believe that.

00:05:17.000 So, let me give you my theory, since you didn't ask for it, but I have the microphone.

00:05:23.000 So, we had our governor, when he was the mayor of San Francisco, stand up on the steps of City Hall, San Francisco, and say, as goes California, so goes the rest of the nation.

00:05:35.000 Sadly, we kind of saw that because we saw California values, San Francisco values, migrate to Washington, D.C. Everything from the Speaker of the House to obviously with the vice president and several of the staff that was here in Sacramento now has migrated there and become a part of the administration.

00:05:55.000 But with those policies that have been implemented, it seems with the change that is happening now across the country, and people then are rejecting those policies, and thus what we're going to see in the midterm election.

00:06:08.000 Do you think that now is going to come back to California?

00:06:11.000 That as goes the rest of the nation, so could go California?

00:06:16.000 I'll be honest, not immediately.

00:06:18.000 I think that you'll start to see some gains and some traction.

00:06:21.000 California is a long-term project.

00:06:25.000 There's a great verse in Nehemiah, I think, which is, do not belabor the days of long work.

00:06:31.000 You know the verse I'm talking about when they're rebuilding the temple under Zeribbabell's leadership, and they're like, This is taking forever.

00:06:38.000 And it's like, well, that good things take a long time.

00:06:41.000 And look, California was not lost in an election, and it won't be retaken in an election.

00:06:46.000 This was a long-term project.

00:06:47.000 But look, I mean, the question is: what is rock bottom in California?

00:06:52.000 And everyone has their own theory, right?

00:06:54.000 Kind of when the homeless guy defecates on your front lawn, maybe that's rock bottom.

00:06:58.000 I don't know.

00:06:59.000 That's happening more and more in San Francisco.

00:07:01.000 And in, I was just in Berkeley.

00:07:03.000 No exaggeration, super dark place, spiritually dark in a lot of different ways.

00:07:08.000 But look, I think that in order for California to be a freer state, it has to start local.

00:07:15.000 I think that, you know, kind of making some appropriate changes here on the city council level in Fresno would be a good start, especially for the incredible story here of another church that's being totally targeted by the local city council.

00:07:31.000 If you're not aware of this story, I encourage you to check it out.

00:07:34.000 It's just terrible what the local city council is doing.

00:07:36.000 So we need to focus on the hyper-local first and foremost.

00:07:40.000 And I think that this city in particular is being misrepresented by a lot of the people in City Hall here.

00:07:46.000 But look, I'm asked all the time, Charlie, do you think there's any hope for California?

00:07:50.000 And my answer is always the same: we have to make our own hope happen.

00:07:54.000 There, we have to obviously fast and pray for the nation and the land that we're in, but we also have to do things that actually make a substantial difference.

00:08:03.000 No longer be a spectator, but be a participant in that.

00:08:06.000 And in some ways, that is against where a lot of conservatism has been in the recent years, where some people think that, hey, we just win a presidential election.

00:08:16.000 I can kind of take it off and I'm just going to kind of watch the rest on TV.

00:08:19.000 The left has never thought that way.

00:08:21.000 They've been in the trenches.

00:08:22.000 They've been in the schools for a long time.

00:08:25.000 And I'm starting to see a mindset shift.

00:08:26.000 I really am.

00:08:27.000 I'm starting to see after the initial shock that you're not going to get your country back in just 18 months.

00:08:32.000 Now I see conservatives putting their working boots on.

00:08:35.000 Now I see people that are willing to get into the trenches, into the grassroots, and say, look, this might take 5, 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 years, but I'm willing to do that because my grandkids are worth it because liberty is worth fighting for.

00:08:46.000 And I could tell you this, though, and we'll dive into this throughout the conversation kind of more nationally.

00:08:54.000 I don't call myself an optimist just to say it.

00:08:59.000 I have been an optimist for a long period of time because I traveled the country and I see that we have the greatest people on the planet sacrificing so much for their values.

00:09:08.000 And I've been saying this since February of last year, that there was a rumbling, that there was a stirring in our country.

00:09:13.000 And it wasn't really manifested.

00:09:15.000 It didn't manifest itself immediately.

00:09:17.000 But I said, there's something happening that will be a reaction to this regime, you know, criminalizing moms and dads showing up to school board meetings across the country.

00:09:26.000 There will be a reaction about pushing a vaccine on a population that does not need it, particularly students and young people.

00:09:32.000 And so we were always complaining, like, will there be a price to going woke and all these sorts of things?

00:09:38.000 And my goodness, in the last couple of weeks, if you just kind of take a step back, you say, wow, like Disney, they're down 20% of their market share, their market cap.

00:09:50.000 Netflix is down 40%, which is a total woke company. 0.99

00:09:54.000 CNN Plus lasted two scaramuccias, which is like 21 days.

00:10:00.000 Just gone, multi-billion dollar project.

00:10:03.000 And I know we all have mixed opinions on this individual.

00:10:06.000 I certainly do.

00:10:07.000 There's some things I really disagree with him on, but it's just, it's nothing, it's definitely entertaining.

00:10:13.000 I think it's very beneficial where the world's richest man decides to come in and just buy Twitter.

00:10:21.000 And not only that, but self-describe himself now as a conservative.

00:10:26.000 He did that today on Twitter, saying that free speech is a fundamental human right.

00:10:30.000 There's something happening here where all of a sudden the people in charge, the power brokers, the ruling class, the elites, they're not going according to plan.

00:10:39.000 And here's how you know.

00:10:41.000 If their victory was inevitable, then their propaganda would not be necessary.

00:10:48.000 I'm going to say that again.

00:10:49.000 You want me to say that again?

00:10:50.000 Say it again.

00:10:51.000 All right.

00:10:51.000 If their victory was inevitable, their propaganda would not be necessary.

00:10:57.000 If it was a sure thing they were going to win, they would not have to keep on filling our airwaves with garbage every single day. 0.68

00:11:03.000 They'd have to keep on lying to us. 0.81

00:11:05.000 They know there's a chance they could lose.

00:11:07.000 In fact, they know there's a greater chance that they're going to kind of lose their entire current monopoly over power here in our country.

00:11:16.000 And how is one supposed to get the news out?

00:11:18.000 Well, CNN Plus fails.

00:11:19.000 Disney, Netflix, all this.

00:11:20.000 Twitter is now in complete jeopardy.

00:11:22.000 It's like the Wild West.

00:11:23.000 I don't know if you've gone on Twitter the last couple of days.

00:11:24.000 It's awesome.

00:11:25.000 It's like you can actually speak your mind again.

00:11:28.000 But this is not motivated from the top down.

00:11:31.000 This is a bottom-up revolution.

00:11:33.000 These are a revolution in a peaceful and a meaningful way, not the type that the left always tries to throw at us, but one that is one where we're building things and we're unafraid to proclaim the truth.

00:11:45.000 And so you're just beginning to see the early stages of what I believe will be a first a couple year, then a multi-decade citizen rising movement where all of a sudden the game gets changed permanently.

00:12:01.000 And what a time to be alive.

00:12:02.000 We feel thankful that we get to live through this.

00:12:05.000 And it's the things that it's a thing that historians will write about for generations to come.

00:12:10.000 So what were some of the catalysts that you think that brought about this change that motivated what we're seeing everywhere from entertainment to media?

00:12:18.000 Yeah, so two things.

00:12:19.000 First is the laws of reality.

00:12:21.000 So we as Christians, we believe in the laws of nature and nature is God.

00:12:25.000 It says that in the Declaration of Independence.

00:12:27.000 But we believe in the God of order.

00:12:28.000 We do not believe in a God of chaos.

00:12:30.000 The enemy sows chaos and our Lord is a God of order.

00:12:34.000 So when an organization or a movement, a celebrity decides to sow chaos against order and they institutionalize it, that will not be rewarded by the laws of nature and nature is God.

00:12:45.000 No, a simple law of nature that we believe in is the law of gravity, right?

00:12:48.000 So you try to just throw yourself into the Grand Canyon, it's not going to work well, right? 0.94

00:12:52.000 Well, also when you try to all of a sudden say men can become pregnant, or if you say things as ridiculous as America is the most racist country in the world, that's unsustainable.

00:13:01.000 It might sound good in a talking point on MSNBC, might make you feel good, but eventually there will be a reaction to not making yourself bound to those pesky shackles of reality, right?

00:13:15.000 And that's part of it is just, I just kind of call it civilizational gravity, that you cannot build an entire organization and insist that you can't tell me what a woman is, like Katangi Brown Jackson.

00:13:26.000 I'm not a biologist, so I can't tell you what a woman is. 1.00

00:13:29.000 Like that's not a winning formula for success.

00:13:33.000 Or trying to tell an entire country that where we have our beautiful veterans that serve so much for our flag, that actually you want to go fight for something that's colonialist, homophobic, racist.

00:13:44.000 Like that's actually not really popular.

00:13:46.000 People want to be proud of where they're from.

00:13:47.000 They want to be proud of the flag that they see.

00:13:50.000 They understand the flaws.

00:13:51.000 They're not dumb, but they also don't want to just be beat over the head as if you're some sort of terrible person because you stand for the flags and you don't take a knee.

00:13:58.000 And so part of this is kind of this force of gravity, but it's a combination, right?

00:14:03.000 So whatever goes woke will go broke because actually no one wants to go watch the Netflix series called He's Expecting.

00:14:09.000 It's a real thing.

00:14:11.000 Like no one's like, yeah, you know, that's why I'm a Netflix subscriber.

00:14:14.000 Like, no, that's why they lost 200,000 subscribers.

00:14:16.000 And honestly, this is also exactly why many of you are now against Disney because they're pushing an incredibly radical sexual agenda on five-year-olds.

00:14:26.000 And that's not okay.

00:14:27.000 And that's just a very basic moral question, regardless of when you think sexual education should be talked to kids.

00:14:33.000 Any decent person, not five-year-olds, or like maybe a teenager, maybe 12, 13, I think it has no place in our schools whatsoever.

00:14:39.000 I think it's a parental issue, but you might have some nuance in it, right?

00:14:44.000 Like maybe it's for 12 or 13, but like no one in their right mind says a five-year-old should be learning about puberty blockers, lesbian sex, and a transition closet, which is what's happening in many schools.

00:14:54.000 But then the second part of why it's not just the force of gravity, but then it's those of you that have been pushing back against their seeming monopoly over our kind of institutions, which is you've decided, many of you, to do what is right more than what is popular.

00:15:10.000 And that really is the winning formula, right?

00:15:13.000 It is impossible to get the country back and all the while win all approval all the time by the newspapers, by social media.

00:15:20.000 You're going to have to make some people irritated or annoyed.

00:15:24.000 Not because that's what your heart is.

00:15:26.000 Your heart should never be to annoy people.

00:15:28.000 But if it's a byproduct of telling the truth, that's not your problem.

00:15:31.000 That's their problem, right?

00:15:33.000 And so if you look at it, the left, if you will, the secular left, they have weaponized name-calling in our country to such a, so brutally, where the way to get someone to stop fighting for what they believe in is to call them a bad name. 0.91

00:15:49.000 You're a racist. 0.98

00:15:50.000 You're a bigot. 1.00

00:15:51.000 You're a, I'm like, hold on a second. 0.94

00:15:52.000 Like, where do I donate money?

00:15:52.000 No, I'm not.

00:15:53.000 I'll put a sign in my yard.

00:15:55.000 Maybe a bumper sticker.

00:15:56.000 Here's my black square on my social media.

00:15:58.000 I'll wear two masks when I shower.

00:16:00.000 And please, like, anything.

00:16:02.000 Just don't call me those terrible names, anti-science.

00:16:05.000 And in reality, we think you should understand those names mean nothing.

00:16:08.000 They should mean nothing to you.

00:16:09.000 Those are nothing more than baseless slings of the arrows from the enemy to try to have you stop fighting for truth and righteousness.

00:16:16.000 If you take away name-calling, they have very little power.

00:16:20.000 I mean, they have some power, right?

00:16:22.000 That's not no power.

00:16:23.000 They could fire you from your job if you don't get a vaccine.

00:16:25.000 They could kick you off social media.

00:16:26.000 But I think we'd all agree the greatest power they have over us is that we're afraid to speak our mind because of public approval or sentiment or not being invited to a certain party.

00:16:35.000 I'm not actually insulting you.

00:16:35.000 And that's okay.

00:16:37.000 We all go through this, myself included.

00:16:39.000 There's times when I'm around family members.

00:16:40.000 I'm like, I don't want to talk politics.

00:16:42.000 You're all there, right?

00:16:43.000 We get it because they're going to be the first one to be like, that's a racist thing to say.

00:16:46.000 Like, I don't have the patience, right?

00:16:48.000 But in reality, when we cross that Rubicon, when we take that leap of faith as our faith actually instructs us, that is what weakens them and empowers our cause more than anything else.

00:16:59.000 Have you found?

00:17:03.000 Have you found that when you step across that line, when again, that fear is there, I don't want to be identified this way.

00:17:10.000 I don't want to be called that way.

00:17:12.000 But once you step across that line, step through that barrier, you suddenly realize it's not what they said it was going to be.

00:17:19.000 And you find that there is allies on the other side that are saying, oh, I'm finally glad somebody else stood up and said, what is truth?

00:17:27.000 Yes, it's total freedom.

00:17:29.000 I do three podcasts a day, three hours of radio a day, traveling the country always.

00:17:34.000 And I know a lot of other people in media and they work for certain organizations and they're always reaching out like, wow, Charlie, like you really speak your mind.

00:17:42.000 I say, yeah, because I don't have to report to somebody if I say something wrong.

00:17:48.000 Like I'm not going to like to have to, you know, if I say something incorrect, I'll be the first one to apologize to you.

00:17:55.000 But if I say something true and you don't like it, like, all right, whatever.

00:17:59.000 There's a sense of freedom and a sense of peace that I want for all of you in your life, where all of a sudden you do not care about what they could do to you.

00:18:08.000 And that's not to say that you might not be in that situation right now.

00:18:11.000 I understand that.

00:18:12.000 There might be an employer.

00:18:13.000 There might be somebody that might be threatening.

00:18:15.000 But I do not believe that's how God actually wants you to live his life.

00:18:19.000 You know, the story of the Old Testament largely is God giving abundant grace and delivering God's chosen people from tyranny into freedom, even though they didn't deserve it.

00:18:29.000 And it's kind of kept on getting messed up because God's chosen people kept on going through the cycle of sin of getting freedom, not wanting it anymore, complaining about who brought them.

00:18:37.000 Like, who's this Moses guy?

00:18:38.000 Bring us back to slavery.

00:18:40.000 And them then going back to some form of bondage, getting delivered again.

00:18:45.000 And thankfully, we don't have to worry about it anymore.

00:18:47.000 We have Jesus Christ to set us free from our sins.

00:18:50.000 So we don't have to worry about that kind of whole cycle of destruction.

00:18:54.000 But God does not wish for you to live in a state of perpetual cultural or relational fear, to have to walk on eggshells for your beliefs.

00:19:02.000 That's not God's wish for humanity.

00:19:04.000 In fact, he loves you so much, he wants you to be at a place of peace.

00:19:08.000 That was Christ's promise to us, by the way, that you can have peace.

00:19:12.000 And I think that gets misapplied at times where people think it's like peace between the nations.

00:19:16.000 That's probably true.

00:19:17.000 But first, let's have peace in your soul.

00:19:19.000 And an unsettled soul is one where you know you believe something and you're not able to vocalize it.

00:19:25.000 The most unhappy people in the world are people that have a strongly held belief and they feel as if they can't tell anybody.

00:19:33.000 And so one of my kind of charges for you tonight is, I want that kind of freedom for you.

00:19:37.000 Say, Charlie, how do I get it?

00:19:38.000 Here's the cool thing.

00:19:39.000 You just choose.

00:19:41.000 That's it.

00:19:41.000 You just choose that speaking your mind or doing what is right matters more than whatever the earthly, momentary or quickly vanishing social acceptance might get you.

00:19:52.000 I've noticed in obviously watching what you do when those that come to confront you and they have the talking points that they've heard and everything.

00:20:02.000 But then when you simply respond to them, they usually don't have a follow-up.

00:20:07.000 It's very shallow what the left is doing.

00:20:11.000 And if we just have that, like I say, just do it.

00:20:14.000 Just take that next step.

00:20:15.000 Do it in love, but do it with boldness.

00:20:18.000 Let me ask about the education system because one of the things that the strength of the left has been what they've done to our children and what they've done to education, what is now not education, but indoctrination.

00:20:31.000 That seems to be, though, where they have lost the battle or another one of the catalysts is because they overplayed their hand in what they've done in education that has caused parents to rise up.

00:20:43.000 Yeah, that's a great point.

00:20:45.000 And so I had a mom activist that came up to me the other day and she said, Charlie, I never cared about politics, but as soon as I found out that they were distributing puberty blockers in my kid's school and that my kid was asking questions of whether or not he could be a boy or a girl, I really didn't do much thinking.

00:21:08.000 Just kind of this inexplicable primal instinct kicked in.

00:21:12.000 And I don't really remember what happened after. 0.80

00:21:16.000 And I thought to myself, what another dumb move by the left to activate something that truly is primal, right?

00:21:24.000 Where when we were not as civilized as we are now, and the men were out hunting and gathering and the moms had to defend the children against an invader or against a threat, right? 0.79

00:21:36.000 That sort of God-given protective instinct has all of a sudden now been activated amongst millions of people all across the country.

00:21:45.000 And so when you see the kind of like the San Francisco men's choir, an all-gay choir, come out and they say, we are going to convert your children. 1.00

00:21:56.000 Literally, that's their singiness over and over again.

00:21:58.000 Like, I don't think that all of a sudden we need like a long form Socratic debate over whether or not, I just think moms all of a sudden say, I know this is wrong and you're not going to, you are not going to take the innocence of my child.

00:22:11.000 It's not going to happen.

00:22:12.000 And we're seeing that in every community across the country.

00:22:15.000 And it's profound and it's real and it's growing.

00:22:19.000 And honestly, I'll be very, it's beautiful.

00:22:21.000 Like that's very biblical, by the way.

00:22:24.000 I would be depressed and cynical if this was happening and parents were okay with it.

00:22:29.000 Now, there's some parents that are, we know that, but a vast majority aren't.

00:22:33.000 A vast majority of parents love their kids.

00:22:35.000 They don't quite understand the problems of the education system as intimately as we do.

00:22:39.000 That's okay.

00:22:40.000 We can help you navigate that.

00:22:42.000 But they know what's wrong when they see it.

00:22:44.000 And many of them, and this is an unintended blessing and benefit of the Chinese Fauci coronavirus, is the fact that many parents all of a sudden started to hear what their kids were learning in Zoom class.

00:22:59.000 And they're like, that teacher has no idea what they're talking about.

00:23:03.000 And I'm not going to, so they sort of show up at school board meetings like, hey, excuse me, why is this teacher, you know, this 27-year-old punk, telling my eight-year-old that like, if they want to, they could chemically castrate themselves.

00:23:16.000 And the school board's like, get the police officer, this person's spreading hate speech.

00:23:20.000 And like, yeah, the next month, the mom shows up with like 500 moms, right?

00:23:24.000 And this happened everywhere.

00:23:25.000 And for whatever reason, it perplexes me, the left can't quite figure out where this has come from.

00:23:32.000 And I think it is something that deserves our appreciation and our pause when all of a sudden you see a revival of parents prioritizing the education of their children to such an extent that they don't care of the consequences.

00:23:47.000 They just don't.

00:23:48.000 And so the education system has become a racket.

00:23:51.000 It's a cartel.

00:23:52.000 We all know that.

00:23:53.000 This is why homeschooling has quadrupled in the last couple of years, a year and a half.

00:23:59.000 It's a phenomenal thing, the quadrupling of American homeschooling.

00:24:03.000 And so, look, the government education system, I don't even call it the public education system because it doesn't serve the public good anymore, whether it be the lack of literacy, the lack of math, mathematical ability, or scientific ability in some of our nation's schools.

00:24:16.000 These are government schools for the aim of trying to create obedient government technocrats in the future.

00:24:22.000 If it served the public good, I would call it that.

00:24:24.000 And even some private schools aren't so good anymore, as I'm sure many of you know, unfortunately.

00:24:29.000 But they're slipping.

00:24:30.000 They're falling.

00:24:32.000 And this movement of parental rights and education is not going away.

00:24:36.000 And so the wonderful Ron DeSantis, I mean, how great is Ron DeSantis, by the way?

00:24:39.000 Isn't he amazing?

00:24:40.000 Just incredible.

00:24:43.000 He passes like the most boring bill ever, like super boring.

00:24:47.000 Like you ask 99% of people in Fresno, they'd be like, why is this even controversial?

00:24:51.000 Like get away from me.

00:24:52.000 Like, of course, obviously, which is super simple, right?

00:24:54.000 Like five, six, and seven-year-olds should not be taught about transgenderism or sexual matters.

00:24:58.000 Okay, that's it.

00:24:59.000 Like should not be taught about gender. 0.99

00:25:01.000 You could read the bill yourself.

00:25:02.000 It's seven pages.

00:25:03.000 And then the other part is that if health treatment is given to kids, parents have to be notified.

00:25:07.000 Okay?

00:25:08.000 That's it.

00:25:09.000 And so it was called the Parental Rights and Education Bill.

00:25:12.000 And so this passes, and Disney acted as if that somehow this was like a Jim Crow 2.0 against trans people or whatever.

00:25:20.000 And they start running these advertisements, like this is a war on trans people.

00:25:23.000 Like, excuse me, like, how is not teaching five-year-olds about these very, albeit confusing and highly politicized radical matters, an attack on trans people?

00:25:34.000 And then what was amazing is you saw so many teachers come out and be like, I will not know how to teach my kindergartners anymore about math.

00:25:41.000 Like, that tells me a lot about what you were actually doing in math class.

00:25:45.000 If you're not allowed to talk about like, anyway, I don't even want to talk about it in public.

00:25:50.000 It's like really disgusting, honestly.

00:25:52.000 Like, that's what we used to have words for people like this.

00:25:54.000 And you could fill them in.

00:25:55.000 It's not right.

00:25:56.000 And so, but then most Americans look at this and you feel as if you feel like you're losing your mind at times and you watch the news.

00:26:02.000 It's actually part of the design.

00:26:02.000 It's okay.

00:26:02.000 It's part.

00:26:03.000 They want you to feel that way.

00:26:05.000 You're like, wait a second, there's nothing controversial about this.

00:26:07.000 Like five, six, and seven-year-olds deserve to be protected in their innocent state.

00:26:10.000 I'm not going to apologize for that.

00:26:12.000 Then Disney, you know, does this whole thing where they're like threatening against the governor of governor Florida?

00:26:18.000 And honestly, Ron DeSantis responded correctly.

00:26:20.000 He told them to cut it out.

00:26:21.000 They didn't.

00:26:22.000 He told him to cut it out again.

00:26:23.000 He didn't.

00:26:23.000 And so he treated Disney like a child because Disney doesn't care about children anymore.

00:26:27.000 Said, okay, what do you do when a child misbehaves after the first couple of times?

00:26:31.000 He punished him, put in time out.

00:26:32.000 And he said, okay, Disney, you're losing your $200 million a year tax bonus from the special carve out from the people of Florida.

00:26:39.000 Like, okay, you're now going to go after the children of Florida and act as if we're the enemies.

00:26:43.000 In Disney now, they say that 50% of their characters are going to be trans or gay in their children stuff by the end of this year on Disney Plus.

00:26:50.000 50%.

00:26:51.000 They've come out and they've said they're going to dedicate hundreds of millions of dollars to transgender programming over the next couple of years.

00:26:57.000 And that when you go to Disney World, they're not going to say, welcome boys and girls.

00:27:00.000 They're going to say, welcome people of the world, right?

00:27:03.000 They're not going to say that women have birth, but they're birthing people.

00:27:05.000 Like this is now Disney, right?

00:27:07.000 Which is talking more like a radical Berkeley, you know, activist group than a media company.

00:27:14.000 One final thought on Disney before I close the point on DeSantis.

00:27:16.000 What really frustrates me is they made billions of dollars on your trust.

00:27:22.000 You trusted them.

00:27:23.000 So when you turned on Disney Plus, you assumed it was innocent content and you were able to maybe get some work done or, you know, maybe make dinner while your kids were watching Disney.

00:27:32.000 And they robbed you blind while you gave them your trust.

00:27:36.000 And I believe that's where a lot of our anger is.

00:27:38.000 I think a lot of our anger is rooted in the fact that they got rich while we thought they were the family-friendly safe zone.

00:27:45.000 And honestly, there deserves to be a price for that.

00:27:48.000 That is a very immoral thing to do, to get rich while benefiting off of parents trusting you.

00:27:55.000 So look, DeSantis got rid of their $200 million loophole in that.

00:27:58.000 And so I could dive further in education.

00:28:01.000 I could dive what the purpose actually is into it if you want.

00:28:04.000 But this is one of the most important fights happening in America.

00:28:06.000 So you mentioned during the pandemic that suddenly parents got an opportunity via Zoom to look into really what their child was because now instead of asking the teacher, they're turning to mom and dad and asking these questions.

00:28:21.000 And then we saw the transgender movement and what they were doing with our athletes of saying, wait a minute, a guy can compete against a girl. 0.66

00:28:29.000 And just the total unfairness of that, lack of justice in that, has been the thing that has caused the American people to rise up, moms and dads, to say, no, wait a minute, you're not going to do that to my kid.

00:28:41.000 So I think, again, that they overplayed their hand and interjected that now into the workplace.

00:28:47.000 Yeah, I mean, and look, I always say this before I go into the trans issue.

00:28:53.000 I don't recognize like a lot of this nonsense around this issue, but I want the best for all people.

00:28:59.000 We're all made in the image of God.

00:29:00.000 I want nothing more than people that are living under this delusion internally to try to find Jesus Christ and realize that they are living under a delusion and they need grace and compassion.

00:29:11.000 However, like we could sort that out.

00:29:13.000 We could have your own opinions on that.

00:29:15.000 I'm not going to call you by your pronouns if I see something different.

00:29:18.000 Like I'm not going to play that game.

00:29:21.000 So, however, I will say this, though, regardless of all of that, the whole kind of bargain around the trans thing was supposed to be like, let us live our life and you live yours and we'll leave each other alone, right? 0.93

00:29:30.000 That was kind of the whole thing.

00:29:31.000 And so the personal opinions aside, it kind of sounded fair.

00:29:35.000 Like, okay, you could obviously wear a dress in your own home.

00:29:37.000 You could wear a dress publicly.

00:29:39.000 We're not going to stop you.

00:29:41.000 Whatever.

00:29:41.000 Okay.

00:29:42.000 That was kind of the way.

00:29:42.000 Now, how naive, right?

00:29:44.000 We were so naive to believe that all of a sudden this was going to be the end of it.

00:29:48.000 And so what happens next?

00:29:49.000 Well, you have the 462nd best swimmer in the country who's a man, who transitions to be a woman and then wins the NCAA championship, therefore disenfranchising the other women in the NCAA championship, right? 0.76

00:30:04.000 And we're supposed to put up with this.

00:30:05.000 And so someone asked me, well, Charlie, what do you think the solution to that is?

00:30:09.000 Well, I think the solution is pretty simple, right?

00:30:12.000 Which is, you know, make the person compete against their own biological sex.

00:30:17.000 Like he could think he's a woman all day long, but you still got to compete against men. 0.76

00:30:21.000 Like it's your own delusion is not my problem, right?

00:30:26.000 It's not, and it shouldn't be your problem either.

00:30:29.000 But instead, what we've done is we've completely redesigned society to wrongly Platform and to wrongly kind of readjust to what people feel is right.

00:30:39.000 And so there's a lot, there's a lot wrong with this, obviously, on its surface level.

00:30:44.000 But what's so hilarious about this, which got me banned from Twitter originally, I'm back now.

00:30:50.000 And thanks to new management.

00:30:53.000 Our protest worked.

00:30:55.000 And so, no, this is what got me banned from Twitter, which is asking where are the feminists in this whole thing. 1.00

00:31:00.000 I mean, I remember just a couple years ago, I was there on the streets of Washington, D.C., when these like these bus filled of late teenage, early 20-something women from Ivy League schools with signs were screaming at the top of their lungs that Brett Kavanaugh's the war on women and all they're screaming in my face.

00:31:22.000 You could go watch those videos.

00:31:23.000 Many of them have gone very viral in recent years.

00:31:25.000 I remember like the whole crux of the left was like women matter and they must be protected and all this.

00:31:32.000 And obviously, I believe a lot of their critiques against the patriarchy, which I don't believe exists, by the way, was wrong.

00:31:39.000 But at least I could agree that women were a thing, right? 1.00

00:31:42.000 So, but now it's like, no, women is whatever you want. 0.97

00:31:44.000 It's me.

00:31:44.000 I'm like, that happened really quickly.

00:31:46.000 Like, you went from the political movement from like biological women must be protected against like angry men to now we must allow like terrible men to be able to abuse women.

00:31:55.000 Like, where did that happen, actually?

00:31:57.000 I actually kind of missed the feminists. 1.00

00:31:59.000 At least I agreed with them on a lot of different things, right?

00:32:03.000 At least I agreed that women was something that was biologically true. 1.00

00:32:07.000 And yes, men and women have different needs, wants, desires, and those differences must be appreciated.

00:32:13.000 And now all that's, now I have to be told, like, actually, men and women are exactly the same.

00:32:17.000 And this is taught in our schools, taught in our institutions.

00:32:20.000 And look, this is the deeper question is, what do we think of cheating, right?

00:32:26.000 Thomas, the swimmer for University of Pennsylvania, is a cheater.

00:32:29.000 There is no other way to put it.

00:32:31.000 It's that if you are going to use a structural advantage, a chromosomal advantage, and switch categories because you feel it, then feel that way, then you're cutting in line.

00:32:41.000 And so it's a very simple question, which is, do you believe you get to determine your own existence?

00:32:46.000 And the answer, of course, is no.

00:32:47.000 I mean, does a 55-year-old get to go play t-ball just because he feels that way?

00:32:51.000 No, I mean, it would be insane, right?

00:32:54.000 We wouldn't put up with that.

00:32:55.000 No, there are certain things that we are rooted to biological objective truth.

00:33:00.000 The most simple of which, by the way, is what has kind of kept civilization together, which is men and women.

00:33:06.000 And then, so now I go to Berkeley.

00:33:07.000 So when I first went to Berkeley, I get screamed at by the feminists that women are oppressed. 1.00

00:33:12.000 Now I get screamed at by the feminists that women don't exist. 1.00

00:33:14.000 Like it's just whatever you want it to be.

00:33:16.000 Or they tell me that anyone who wants to be a woman can become a woman. 0.98

00:33:20.000 Like the price of admission is just simply kind of a state of kind of mental acceptance.

00:33:26.000 And so this doesn't make sense to most Americans and it shouldn't.

00:33:31.000 In fact, you don't have to overthink it.

00:33:33.000 You don't have to spend the rest of the evening kind of dwelling on it or pondering on it.

00:33:36.000 There's two teams in America, right?

00:33:38.000 There's team liberties, liberty slash team reality.

00:33:40.000 That's us, right?

00:33:41.000 We live on team reality and team liberty, rooted in the laws of nature and nature's God, the God of order, right?

00:33:47.000 The God of structure and the God of purpose.

00:33:50.000 They are on team insanity, team tyranny, and whatever, like team chaos, whatever you want to put it, right?

00:33:57.000 And so these kind of two teams have been formed in America, and it's no longer team right or team left.

00:34:02.000 It's not even conservative or liberal, by the way.

00:34:04.000 Like who's on team reality and team liberty?

00:34:06.000 Well, we have an ever-growing roster of very fun people.

00:34:09.000 We have Joe Rogan, who's the most like successful podcaster in history, who, by the way, is far from a conservative, by the way.

00:34:17.000 But they call him like a right-winger.

00:34:18.000 Like, you don't know Joe Rogan.

00:34:20.000 Like, he's like pushing for like the decriminalization of psychedelic mushrooms.

00:34:23.000 Like, not exactly a right-winger from Alabama.

00:34:28.000 By the way, a lot of respect for Joe Rogan.

00:34:29.000 I think what he did on COVID took a lot of courage.

00:34:32.000 I have a lot of respect for Joe Rogan.

00:34:34.000 Also, on team realities, Elon Musk helps to have the world's richest man, who, by his own admission on his tweet today, he said, I used to identify as a liberal, but everyone moved and I didn't.

00:34:42.000 Now I'm like this right-winger.

00:34:43.000 It's like, okay, welcome aboard.

00:34:45.000 Like, keep buying companies that we don't like.

00:34:48.000 That would be really helpful, right?

00:34:49.000 And by the way, if Elon was here, I would push him on a lot of different stuff.

00:34:52.000 I'd push him on the Neuralink stuff, which I think is really, really bad.

00:34:55.000 I do not like tampering with the human brain.

00:34:57.000 I'd push him on the China stuff, which I don't like how much business he does in China.

00:35:01.000 I'd push him on some of his metaphysical beliefs, which are very wacky, by the way, which he thinks we're living in a simulation.

00:35:07.000 Okay, anyway, but you can look it up.

00:35:10.000 And it's actually somewhat rational the way he's put himself into that, but it's irrational in a different way.

00:35:15.000 But I'm not going to get into that.

00:35:17.000 That's a separate thing.

00:35:18.000 But he's got eight kids.

00:35:19.000 He loves liberty.

00:35:21.000 He does not like team woke.

00:35:23.000 And honestly, I'm glad that he's on our team, right?

00:35:26.000 And so, and what I believe right now is this consolidation of those of us that don't have to overthink our positions, right?

00:35:33.000 We know that a certain certain fundamental Western values are good, such as separation of powers, consent to the governed, freedom of speech, constitutional rights, that these things deserve to be protected and preserved.

00:35:44.000 And the other team, they're just, they're getting more animated and they're getting, they're almost further entrenching their very radical position.

00:35:53.000 My money's on team reality.

00:35:55.000 So I want.

00:35:59.000 I just hope that next he's going to buy McDonald's and fix all the ice cream machines.

00:36:04.000 That's the next thing that I want him to do.

00:36:05.000 Well, can I just say one more thing on the Elon thing?

00:36:07.000 And I totally get complaints about him and all that.

00:36:10.000 But by the way the left has reacted, there's no way you could tell me that they're enjoying this.

00:36:15.000 Okay.

00:36:16.000 If you just look for a second on how the regime left has reacted to this, it's unbelievable because censorship matters to them.

00:36:25.000 How else will they be able to control a society if they can't censor us?

00:36:30.000 This idea that Elon might now open up the public square.

00:36:34.000 If you think this country is somewhat conservative now, imagine if we'll be able to speak freely online.

00:36:41.000 I want you to imagine something.

00:36:42.000 So a lot of us were really upset about how unfree America has become the last couple of years.

00:36:48.000 Lockdowns, mask mandates, vaccine mandates.

00:36:51.000 Imagine if Twitter would have allowed a robust discussion on ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, early interventions.

00:36:58.000 I want you to imagine that.

00:37:00.000 Imagine if Elon will allow that according to his own position.

00:37:04.000 In fact, he said that.

00:37:05.000 That means the next time a tyrant rears his head and tries to do something irrational, Twitter can now be an open market for ideas to compete.

00:37:13.000 And guess what?

00:37:14.000 We're okay with that because our ideas are going to win.

00:37:17.000 We know that.

00:37:18.000 That's why we're unafraid.

00:37:20.000 To them, they know their ideas do not win when they are cross-examined.

00:37:25.000 They know their ideas fall apart.

00:37:26.000 So they must be able to shut us up, which is why they're reacting the way they are.

00:37:30.000 But also, this is the greatest show on earth, what you're seeing happen with Elon.

00:37:35.000 And people say, Charlie, does he even realize what he's doing and all this?

00:37:39.000 Maybe, maybe not.

00:37:40.000 If you know anything, he's admitted he has Asperger's, right?

00:37:43.000 He admitted he's like, he just focuses on something and he doesn't get off of it.

00:37:47.000 And I only say that because I don't think he cares.

00:37:51.000 I don't think he, I mean, we're near Yosemite, right?

00:37:53.000 You guys see that amazing documentary, Free Solo, right?

00:37:57.000 Right.

00:37:57.000 I mean, my amygdala was going off the entire time.

00:38:00.000 Like, I was getting nervous watching him.

00:38:02.000 If you haven't seen it, you guys all know El Capitan, right?

00:38:05.000 He climbed the whole thing with no ropes.

00:38:06.000 Totally.

00:38:06.000 So it's insane.

00:38:07.000 You watch it, you can't believe it.

00:38:09.000 But at the end of the movie, they talk to this guy.

00:38:11.000 I can't remember his name.

00:38:11.000 Someone probably knows it.

00:38:12.000 And they're like, yeah, he doesn't have in his brain like the fear gene.

00:38:15.000 It doesn't process fear.

00:38:17.000 And that's Elon Musk.

00:38:19.000 It's just like, okay, like, what are you going to do to me?

00:38:22.000 Like, I'm going to go make more rockets.

00:38:23.000 Okay.

00:38:24.000 Like, whatever.

00:38:26.000 And I think the whole thing's so exciting.

00:38:28.000 And the worst, the people that I have the most disgust for hate this.

00:38:33.000 So I love it.

00:38:38.000 Man, I got so much I want to talk to you about.

00:38:43.000 So it's amazing that the people that we can see over the last few years, you mentioned now with what Musk is doing, and then Donald Trump, which so many rejected. but yet became literally the catalyst that brought us.

00:39:02.000 And now we've got Musk, which again, well, he's not one of us, but yet is bringing that out.

00:39:08.000 Do we need to open our eyes to see perhaps the deliverers that are coming?

00:39:13.000 Well, the Bible talks about King Cyrus, who was not a Christian, but did moral and righteous and courageous things to bring God's chosen people back to Israel.

00:39:20.000 So we should be open-minded to non-Christians fighting for liberty. 1.00

00:39:24.000 You know why?

00:39:25.000 Because most Christians aren't fighting for liberty right now. 0.96

00:39:28.000 A lot of pastors aren't.

00:39:30.000 And so maybe we need a Cyrus.

00:39:33.000 And so I think it's fair to say Trump is eccentric and so is Musk.

00:39:37.000 Is that fair to say?

00:39:38.000 I'm a big fan of the eccentric, though.

00:39:40.000 Study history.

00:39:41.000 The eccentric are the only people that get good done.

00:39:46.000 Always in history, it's the eccentric.

00:39:48.000 Why?

00:39:49.000 Well, it's because they tend to de-emphasize the currency of social acceptance.

00:39:56.000 It just doesn't phase them, right?

00:39:58.000 And so instead, they just kind of focus on what they believe is good or what needs to be fixed, and they'll go about it regardless of the arrows or the slings that are thrown at them.

00:40:07.000 It is very rare to find someone who is accepted by the world in all ways and is not labeled as eccentric and will also do something largely, unexpectedly heroic.

00:40:18.000 All throughout history, Churchill was very eccentric, like extremely eccentric.

00:40:23.000 Lincoln, whoa, like very, very eccentric.

00:40:26.000 In fact, there were musings like they were like, the word wasn't weird.

00:40:29.000 It was something similar to that back then.

00:40:31.000 The eccentric get good done.

00:40:34.000 And so, but look, to your point, I think it should be kind of a wake-up call for Christians, right? 0.92

00:40:40.000 Where it's like, hey, you have secular people.

00:40:43.000 And I'm not saying Trump is secular, but he said he's a Christian, and he said as such, but he certainly doesn't talk about his faith, I think, as openly as others.

00:40:53.000 But he's, I think, been the greatest friend to Christians as a president, more so than anyone could have possibly imagined.

00:40:58.000 But some people say he's not a Christian.

00:41:00.000 I don't believe that.

00:41:01.000 But the point is this, is that whatever you believe Trump to be or whatever you believe Musk to be, he certainly possesses the courage that I would love, both of them, that I would love to see every pastor and Christian have, right?

00:41:14.000 And that's something I think we must pray and think about.

00:41:17.000 So let's talk about that then with the landscape that you have painted for us where the left is basically self-destructing and turning on themselves because they don't know what to do.

00:41:29.000 Is this now one of the greatest opportunities that the church has to rise up and to be light in the midst of this darkness?

00:41:37.000 And are we doing that?

00:41:39.000 Are we missing it?

00:41:40.000 What do we need to do?

00:41:41.000 Oh, it's a great opportunity.

00:41:42.000 What a great question.

00:41:43.000 The answer is yes.

00:41:46.000 So I think it's Psalm 97, 10.

00:41:50.000 It's my day job verse is what I call it.

00:41:53.000 People say, Charlie, what Bible verse justifies what you do all day long?

00:41:57.000 It says very simple.

00:41:58.000 If you love God, you must hate evil.

00:42:01.000 So that's my mission statement.

00:42:04.000 If you love God, you must hate evil.

00:42:06.000 It's that simple.

00:42:07.000 It's impossible to tolerate evil if you love God.

00:42:10.000 And so, yeah, look, the church, this church is doing an amazing job, and so are you.

00:42:16.000 But far too many pastors and churches right now, like, hey, we don't do that around here, okay?

00:42:21.000 Like, evil, we're neutral on evil around here, okay?

00:42:26.000 We're a seeker church.

00:42:27.000 Like, we don't want to turn people away.

00:42:29.000 I mean, what if we tell people evil's wrong and they leave?

00:42:35.000 This is the argument most churches will make, by the way.

00:42:37.000 How true.

00:42:38.000 Right?

00:42:38.000 How true.

00:42:39.000 Where in reality, actually, the churches that are taking stances right now against what's happening, they're growing.

00:42:45.000 Their tides are going up.

00:42:46.000 They're seeing more and more people show up in record numbers.

00:42:49.000 And so this is a great opportunity for the church.

00:42:52.000 So the question we must ask as Christians, which is what is liberty?

00:42:55.000 And liberty is not man's idea.

00:42:58.000 It is God's idea.

00:43:00.000 It is God's heart for his people to set the captives free.

00:43:03.000 It's that simple.

00:43:05.000 And so when we start to see tyranny march across the land, what are we to do?

00:43:10.000 Well, first, we must understand the biblical commandment to be good stewards.

00:43:15.000 We are commanded to be good stewards.

00:43:16.000 So we are stewards of America.

00:43:18.000 And therefore, we must understand where it came from, what it is, what it isn't, and what we should do about it.

00:43:24.000 America was founded by pastors and Christians that were willing to take a stand for liberty.

00:43:30.000 That's a beautiful and amazing thing.

00:43:33.000 And only the church will be able to get it back into alignment.

00:43:36.000 And so we must understand at this particular moment as we see our country, I mean, absent a musk and a Trump that comes in, the large swath of the activity has to stem out of the church. 0.92

00:43:48.000 And it is this kind of moment, this period of time, where I think God is patiently waiting to see what is the church going to do.

00:43:56.000 It is a calling moment.

00:43:57.000 And most churches fail.

00:43:58.000 So there's three types of churches in America.

00:44:00.000 It's the three C's, okay?

00:44:01.000 There's the courageous.

00:44:02.000 You're sitting in a courageous church right now, okay?

00:44:07.000 There is the cowardly, and then there's the complicit, okay?

00:44:11.000 The cowardly church is the one that kind of says, hey, we don't do that around here, okay? 0.51

00:44:16.000 We just do the Bible. 0.94

00:44:17.000 Okay, great.

00:44:18.000 Terrific.

00:44:19.000 You just do the Bible.

00:44:19.000 How about Jeremiah 29, 7?

00:44:21.000 You ever teach on that?

00:44:22.000 That you must demand the peace and the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.

00:44:28.000 That's the Lord commanding you.

00:44:29.000 You ever preach on that?

00:44:30.000 No, no, no.

00:44:31.000 I'm sorry.

00:44:31.000 When I said the Bible, I meant Matthew.

00:44:33.000 Oh, got it.

00:44:36.000 You mean like, more specifically, Matthew 5.

00:44:38.000 Oh, so you're a Sermon on the Mount church.

00:44:39.000 Got it.

00:44:40.000 Okay.

00:44:41.000 Which is fine.

00:44:42.000 Like, I love the Sermon on the Mount.

00:44:43.000 The Bible, all of it is the breathed word of God, right?

00:44:46.000 It is the inerrant scripture.

00:44:49.000 And so to go deeper than that, though, which I think is really important, is the kind of cowardly church will kind of back away from the fights, even though their congregation is asking them questions, right?

00:45:01.000 They're like, hey, how do you feel about this?

00:45:03.000 Oh, we don't talk about that here.

00:45:05.000 When moms are coming in tears to pastors saying that my 11-year-old is transitioning to be a girl, the pastor says, oh, we don't do that around here.

00:45:13.000 That is a disservice to your flock to not inform them and empower them with the Bible has to say.

00:45:19.000 But then there's the complicit church.

00:45:21.000 And we all know the complicit church.

00:45:22.000 I'm sure Fresno has a couple.

00:45:23.000 They're the ones that fly the LGBT flag or the BLM flag out front. 0.88

00:45:28.000 They're the ones that are not doing nothing.

00:45:30.000 I prefer them to do nothing.

00:45:31.000 But instead they're actively involved in anti-biblical activism, right?

00:45:35.000 They're actively involved in spreading things that are not true.

00:45:38.000 Let me give you some one-liners of churches that will say they'll say, Jesus was a socialist.

00:45:41.000 They'll say that, right?

00:45:42.000 Or they'll say, my new favorite, and I got this one the other day, and I wish it was filmed.

00:45:48.000 It was a private conversation.

00:45:49.000 They said, Jesus was transgender.

00:45:51.000 It's a new one.

00:45:52.000 Have you heard this one?

00:45:53.000 No, it's a new one.

00:45:55.000 And I said, what?

00:45:58.000 This is their argument.

00:45:58.000 They said, so Jesus was part man and part God.

00:46:03.000 Part of both, therefore was trans of a being.

00:46:09.000 And I said, that's really a reach.

00:46:12.000 You realize that, right?

00:46:15.000 That's not true.

00:46:17.000 And they said, well, prove it.

00:46:19.000 I said, I have to prove that Jesus is not a transgender. 1.00

00:46:21.000 I said, no, no, the burden of proof is on you.

00:46:23.000 Okay.

00:46:23.000 You're going to do a lot better than just saying that Jesus was 100% God, 100% man, and all of a sudden say that has that's gender dysphoria.

00:46:30.000 Like, not exactly.

00:46:32.000 So, that's a new one.

00:46:33.000 And so, yeah, look, those are the three types of churches. 0.98

00:46:37.000 The vast majority are cowardly. 0.95

00:46:39.000 A growing part are complicit.

00:46:41.000 But the most fervent and blessed churches in America are the courageous.

00:46:47.000 And those are the ones that I think God is going to continue to bless.

00:46:50.000 So, let's do some questions.

00:46:51.000 Is that okay?

00:46:52.000 So, we're going to do some questions, guys.

00:46:56.000 You guys can line up in the aisle to ask the question.

00:47:00.000 We have time for 15, 20 minutes of them.

00:47:03.000 And so, a line here, is that right?

00:47:06.000 Okay, and over there.

00:47:07.000 Hey, Brandon, how are you doing?

00:47:09.000 And so, yeah, just start lining up if you have a question.

00:47:12.000 I want to prioritize students. 0.99

00:47:14.000 I'm going to just kind of be the jerk. 0.98

00:47:16.000 Please make it a question, not a statement. 0.99

00:47:18.000 So, I will cut you off, okay?

00:47:20.000 Sorry in advance.

00:47:22.000 Been a long week today.

00:47:23.000 I was up at 3 a.m. doing a Fox News interview, so I'm just not going to hear about your candidacy for dog catcher.

00:47:28.000 I'm sorry.

00:47:30.000 So, just line up here.

00:47:31.000 Ask, yeah, please, thank you.

00:47:33.000 And we'll try to get to as many as possible.

00:47:36.000 And great, let's start here.

00:47:39.000 Is that okay?

00:47:41.000 Hello.

00:47:42.000 So, you seem to support Elon Musk.

00:47:47.000 Can we talk about his transhumanism?

00:47:50.000 Yeah.

00:47:51.000 No, and I definitely think I mentioned that in my remarks briefly.

00:47:56.000 Yeah, so this is something where if I ever get the chance to meet Elon or talk to him, I'll challenge him a lot on this.

00:48:04.000 And I'd love to see him discontinue and collapse that entire division of his company.

00:48:11.000 So, I'll explain what it is to everybody first.

00:48:14.000 So, he has a company called Neuralink.

00:48:17.000 The company strives to first try to solve dehabilitating disorders, nerve disorders stemming in the brain of people that are paralyzed and they think they could fix it.

00:48:29.000 But it's a lot deeper and I think a lot more insidious than that, right?

00:48:33.000 He aims to be able to upload human consciousness to a computer.

00:48:39.000 Not a fan at all.

00:48:40.000 I'm not a fan of tampering with the human brain.

00:48:43.000 I'm not a fan with trying to merge science with the perfectly designed brain that the Lord has given us.

00:48:49.000 And what you mentioned with transhumanism is exactly right, which is the eventual merging of machines and human beings.

00:48:58.000 There are some pastors that will say that was prophesied in Revelation.

00:49:04.000 Maybe you would agree or not.

00:49:06.000 I do, but I don't get into that kind of theological dispute.

00:49:09.000 I had a pastor say that's not what it says.

00:49:11.000 Whatever, okay?

00:49:12.000 You could read the Bible and kind of come to your own conclusion.

00:49:15.000 Here's what I will say: it's wrong.

00:49:17.000 Okay, it is wrong to try to merge human beings with machines.

00:49:22.000 And so, I will continue to be a vocal and outspoken critic of Musk's Neuralink project.

00:49:29.000 I find very little to any redeeming value outside of maybe being able to fix people's nerves disorders that are paralyzed in the waist down, but you and I both know it's not going to stop there at all.

00:49:39.000 It's going to get to the place where he has said openly he wants to be able to drill a hole in the side of the brain and be able to put a machine in there and upload all of consciousness, and that you will be able to dictate machines to your will based on what you think.

00:49:55.000 Not buying it.

00:49:56.000 Sorry, you guys can't get a vaccine right.

00:49:59.000 Excuse me when I'm kind of like a little bit skeptical on the whole like drilling a hole in the side of my head thing.

00:50:05.000 Not going to happen.

00:50:06.000 So, but my praise of Musk remains because not of that project, but because what he's done to preserve speech, which I believe is a fundamental right in the West that is so mercilessly under attack.

00:50:20.000 And so, I appreciate the question.

00:50:21.000 I think we have a lot of agreement on the transhumanism stuff, though.

00:50:24.000 Thank you.

00:50:24.000 Okay.

00:50:26.000 I'd like to thank you first off for being here tonight for coming to the armpit of California, some would like to say.

00:50:32.000 I think it's beautiful here.

00:50:35.000 This 400-mile stretch of the Central Valley produces a fourth of the nation's fruits and vegetables, including fourth of the nation's nuts, including 40% of the fruits and vegetables here.

00:50:45.000 As an American, I'm proud to be a part of that.

00:50:48.000 I didn't get home until 2 o'clock this morning from working a 15-hour cattle sale, contributing to the beef in our food supply chain.

00:50:54.000 Right here, where we stand is, in my opinion, the best and worst place to live. 0.98

00:50:58.000 Our ag is great, but our politics are trash.

00:51:01.000 We face the possibility to see a disruption of our agriculture production.

00:51:04.000 Inflation and the state's overreach on our water rights have the power to diminish our small farmers and ranchers here in California.

00:51:10.000 With woke culture's attack on the idea that cattle are killing the planet and animal agriculture is the leading cause to climate change, which let me add the EPA put out that agriculture only contributes to 9% of that and three of that is animal agriculture.

00:51:24.000 Knowing the significance of this and the simple fact that agriculture sees no race, color, or sexual orientation, whether you're green, white, gay, purple, or even identify as a cat, because whether it's obvious or not, we all have to eat.

00:51:38.000 We need our farmers and ranchers in order to stay in that human being. 0.89

00:51:40.000 You gotta ask the question.

00:51:41.000 I'm sorry.

00:51:41.000 I'm getting there.

00:51:42.000 So, my question for you is: why is it not talked about?

00:51:45.000 Why is this agriculture not talked about more in the mainstream media?

00:51:48.000 And why is it not talked about on your platform?

00:51:50.000 Because you say, let's save America.

00:51:52.000 And I think saving America starts with saving our farmers and ranchers first.

00:51:55.000 Yeah, I mean, I totally agree with that.

00:51:56.000 Yeah.

00:51:58.000 Yeah, I probably should talk about it more.

00:52:00.000 There's probably other 50 other issues I should talk about more too.

00:52:03.000 But I agree with everything you said.

00:52:04.000 Look, there's a war on ranchers here in this country. 0.97

00:52:07.000 It's deliberate, and farmers in particular.

00:52:13.000 There's several issues here.

00:52:14.000 The supply chain thing is intentional and deliberate.

00:52:16.000 I believe in more ways than one.

00:52:18.000 I want anybody to tell me why on earth so many food processing plants are blowing up all of a sudden in the last couple of months, like weird, bizarre plane crashes, arson, like really weird stuff, which directly impacts the ability to distribute and process food.

00:52:33.000 But look, there is a campaign to try to make America less self-sufficient.

00:52:38.000 We are the envy of the world that we do not have to import a lot of our food.

00:52:43.000 In fact, we're able to export a lot of it.

00:52:45.000 They want to change that.

00:52:46.000 So it is a part of my platform for sure.

00:52:48.000 I mean, we do entire episodes of it.

00:52:50.000 We just did one the other day.

00:52:52.000 But the water rights thing, I mean, this is one of the reasons why I think it's unrealistic, but it's also important that this part of California should, I mean, separate from the rest of California or whatever.

00:53:01.000 The fact that your water continues to subsidize the elevated lifestyle of those people that don't share your values, your politics.

00:53:09.000 I don't think it's realistic to break California in five parts.

00:53:12.000 I just think it's an awesome idea.

00:53:13.000 I have for a while said California is way too big.

00:53:15.000 The values do not align with most people.

00:53:17.000 Now, I've said it for a long time.

00:53:19.000 It's an unsustainably large project.

00:53:21.000 It is.

00:53:22.000 You should not be ruled by the Bay Area and LA.

00:53:25.000 It's just not, it's not, that's what's happening, right?

00:53:27.000 It's two big metropolitan areas that rule the rest of the state.

00:53:30.000 So I appreciate the question.

00:53:32.000 We'll just go with three parts of California instead of five.

00:53:35.000 Yeah, I've seen all sorts of different proposals.

00:53:37.000 Three sounds better than what it is right now.

00:53:39.000 So, all right.

00:53:41.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:53:43.000 My name is Veronica.

00:53:44.000 I'm from the, I came from Narrowsville, so this is a really closer area than I would have traveled to.

00:53:49.000 And I'm really glad that you're here.

00:53:51.000 And thank you for your time.

00:53:53.000 I do want to say one, it's a two-part, and I'll make this quick.

00:53:57.000 I know that there's a most recent abortion bill being pushed from the Capitol.

00:54:02.000 And last Tuesday, there were 3,000 people that came.

00:54:06.000 The Assembly Health Committee only went through not even half of the people that spoke.

00:54:13.000 It was 150 plus people.

00:54:15.000 And yet this week I went to the Capitol for two, three hearings and only two or three people showed up to two of the three hearings.

00:54:23.000 I'm very disappointed.

00:54:24.000 And I know that there's a lot of discouragement and people are burnt out.

00:54:29.000 What is your take on ensuring we can gather as much encouragement for the people that may be burnt out spiritually or just in general?

00:54:40.000 Do you want to start with that?

00:54:41.000 Can you give us status of the bill and where it's at?

00:54:44.000 So it's AB 2223, which is the infanticide bill.

00:54:48.000 If you're not familiar with it, it basically legalizes that not only can a child's life be taken in the womb, but up to 30 days.

00:54:56.000 Some of the legislators are saying that the life can be taken after birth.

00:55:01.000 And so it went through the health committee, passed through that.

00:55:05.000 And now we've still got several other committees to go through on the assembly side.

00:55:09.000 We're trying to get it even in more, and then it will pass over to the Senate.

00:55:13.000 So the fight's not over, but it is a fight.

00:55:16.000 And just to your point, we have to keep the activism going.

00:55:19.000 You know, I can't guarantee a victory on this bill.

00:55:23.000 In fact, we've talked privately.

00:55:24.000 I don't know if you're comfortable sharing it, but it doesn't look good.

00:55:27.000 It looks like the governor wants this bill to pass.

00:55:29.000 But we must fight.

00:55:30.000 We must do everything we possibly can.

00:55:32.000 I know people are burned out, but I mean, babies are worth it, right?

00:55:36.000 If we can't protect them, then what form of activism matters?

00:55:40.000 So God bless you.

00:55:41.000 Thank you.

00:55:42.000 We'll get to a couple more.

00:55:43.000 Hi, how's it going, Charlie?

00:55:45.000 My question was, who would you rather have in the 24 office, DeSantis or Trump?

00:55:51.000 Yeah, I mean, it's a running joke.

00:55:53.000 I just did a whole podcast on this.

00:55:55.000 And so we actually opened up this to my whole audience.

00:55:59.000 So I'm very honest about this, right?

00:56:01.000 So I'm a loyal person.

00:56:02.000 I told Trump while he was president, after it looked like he wasn't getting another term, if you run again, you have my support.

00:56:08.000 He was great to me.

00:56:12.000 I would have none of your trust if I made commitments to people and I went back on them.

00:56:16.000 And I know you wouldn't expect me to do anything else.

00:56:18.000 And so if he runs, I'm going to back him in 2024.

00:56:21.000 And I have no mystery of whether or not he would be a good president again.

00:56:24.000 He was an awesome president.

00:56:25.000 I think he'd be a great president again.

00:56:27.000 But let me say this about DeSantis, though.

00:56:30.000 With that being said, because I'm a loyal person and I take that very seriously, especially in politics where loyalty is not a currency always found, I think Ron DeSantis could be a once-in-a-generation statesman.

00:56:41.000 I really do.

00:56:41.000 I think Ron DeSantis could be a Winston Churchill or an Abraham Lincoln.

00:56:46.000 I think God has something in store for him that is profound.

00:56:49.000 I have not seen leadership ability on a state level like this in my lifetime.

00:56:53.000 I haven't.

00:56:54.000 His ability to pick tough fights, to win them, to build consensus.

00:56:58.000 He does it with wit and with charm and with incredible godly wisdom, whether it be the pro-life legislation he just signed into bill, his anti-riot legislation, his parental rights legislation, the stuff for against vaccine mandates and mask mandates.

00:57:14.000 He was best on the lockdowns in the country, considering he had the most elderly population in the country per capita was Florida, yet he enthusiastically reopened Florida.

00:57:24.000 And Florida had a better death rate, infection virus rate than here in California, where you guys did long, drawn out lockdowns.

00:57:33.000 And so I'll be very honest when it comes to Ron DeSantis.

00:57:36.000 I went on, I started a project a couple months ago.

00:57:41.000 The project was, there must be something wrong.

00:57:45.000 And I just kept looking.

00:57:47.000 And I tried to find something wrong with Ron DeSantis.

00:57:50.000 And then I kept looking.

00:57:52.000 And then I can't find one thing.

00:57:54.000 Like, I just can't.

00:57:55.000 It's been months now.

00:57:56.000 If you know something wrong with Ron DeSantis, tell me.

00:57:58.000 I knew Ron DeSantis when he was a congressman.

00:58:00.000 We used to hang out a lot.

00:58:02.000 And now he's obviously like a superstar.

00:58:04.000 So we see each other so often.

00:58:06.000 And he's the same guy then.

00:58:07.000 He's smart.

00:58:08.000 He's driven.

00:58:09.000 He's tough.

00:58:09.000 He's all those things.

00:58:11.000 And the 12th Amendment forbids two people from the same state to run for president.

00:58:16.000 So someone will have to move out of Florida or get an apartment somewhere.

00:58:19.000 But just think how strong a Trump DeSantis ticket would be.

00:58:22.000 That would be something I think that would blow people's socks away.

00:58:25.000 And so I love them both.

00:58:27.000 I really do.

00:58:28.000 I'm a loyal guy, but I also acknowledge those of you that might be more like, hey, DeSantis or whatever, I got no disagreeing with you.

00:58:35.000 That guy's special.

00:58:36.000 Thank you.

00:58:36.000 I appreciate that.

00:58:40.000 I attend a local Christian college here.

00:58:40.000 Hi.

00:58:45.000 Well, they claim to be Christian. 0.88

00:58:49.000 Recently, my name?

00:58:50.000 Can you say that?

00:58:51.000 Fresno-Pacific.

00:58:53.000 My sister, I'm studying history.

00:58:55.000 And I actually haven't had much of an issue with the professors, more as the students at school.

00:59:02.000 And my question is, at what point do you argue?

00:59:06.000 And at what point do you stop?

00:59:08.000 Got it.

00:59:09.000 So great question.

00:59:10.000 Like with the students or with the professors?

00:59:12.000 I mean, it's both ways.

00:59:13.000 Yeah, it goes both ways.

00:59:14.000 Okay.

00:59:15.000 So you first got to, and this is a good rule for life.

00:59:17.000 You just got to decide very clearly what do you want, right?

00:59:21.000 So if you want a good grade, then don't say anything.

00:59:25.000 Right?

00:59:26.000 I believe grades don't matter nearly as much as speaking the truth.

00:59:30.000 That's my opinion.

00:59:31.000 I think grades are largely irrelevant.

00:59:33.000 And I mean this, take this just nicely and kindly.

00:59:36.000 I think college is a scam and kind of a waste of time.

00:59:38.000 Right.

00:59:38.000 Okay, good.

00:59:39.000 So, and that's not an attack on you.

00:59:41.000 I just think college is largely useless.

00:59:44.000 So you got to figure out what you want, right?

00:59:46.000 So Ben Shapiro and I disagree on this.

00:59:49.000 Ben will say, hey, just tell the professor what he wants to hear.

00:59:52.000 Just lie your way through the coursework, whatever.

00:59:56.000 I think if you lie small, you lie big.

00:59:58.000 I think every fight matters.

01:00:00.000 I think you shouldn't put your name to something that's untrue.

01:00:02.000 Not only is that unbiblical, it's also just a bad rule for life, right? 0.70

01:00:05.000 So you just got to know what you want.

01:00:07.000 But also know that if you decide to challenge a professor, challenge a student, your grade will probably suffer.

01:00:13.000 Your friendships will suffer, and it'll be tough.

01:00:15.000 But waiting on the back end of that will be an incredible sense of freedom that I think will just open your eyes in a profound and a magical way.

01:00:25.000 And so you have to know what you want.

01:00:28.000 And for me, it's always just been truth first and whatever the consequences are, like so be it.

01:00:35.000 Now, you don't have to do it in a reckless way or a bombastic way.

01:00:38.000 Do it gracefully and compassionately.

01:00:40.000 You can do it magnanimously, which is one of my favorite words written a lot about by Aristotle.

01:00:45.000 But at the same time, if I personally, this is the way I'm wired, I wouldn't be able to get an A while not challenging a professor for just spreading rubbish.

01:00:55.000 I will have felt as if I just saw the truth go through a drive-by shooting and I let that happen. 0.77

01:01:02.000 And that's not the way I'm wired.

01:01:04.000 So God bless you.

01:01:05.000 Thank you.

01:01:05.000 All right, we'll take a couple.

01:01:07.000 I think we'll do one here and then one there.

01:01:09.000 Okay, so two more.

01:01:10.000 Thank you, Charlie.

01:01:11.000 I'm not a student.

01:01:12.000 I'm a father.

01:01:13.000 My wife and I have five kids.

01:01:15.000 They're all teenagers.

01:01:18.000 I will tell you, and I appreciate you saying earlier that you were an optimist.

01:01:22.000 I'm very discouraged right now with explaining to my kids about what's going on in the world.

01:01:27.000 So I want your opinion on something.

01:01:29.000 When I read Revelation, and it's talking about the end times, the new world order that we keep hearing about in the news, the mark of the beast with the microchip, I can't help but think that Christ is coming back.

01:01:42.000 I know we can't, you know, we don't know.

01:01:44.000 The day and the hour is unknown.

01:01:45.000 Exactly.

01:01:46.000 Only God knows that.

01:01:47.000 So I want your opinion on that matter.

01:01:50.000 I believe the Bible is true.

01:01:51.000 And so I believe everything the Bible says is going to happen is going to happen.

01:01:55.000 So let me give you my opinion on eschatology, which is the study of the end times, right?

01:01:59.000 Brandon's going to, he knows exactly where I'm going with this.

01:02:02.000 So there's the pre-trib and the post-trib, and the debate rages on and will rage on for a long time.

01:02:08.000 And whenever I get the pre-trib and the post-trib guys in the room together, they both have really good arguments.

01:02:14.000 They both do.

01:02:15.000 And so I'm more of a pre-trib guy, just kind of by default, right?

01:02:18.000 However, I tend to just kind of say in my public thing, I'm a pan-trip.

01:02:23.000 It's all going to pan out in the end, right?

01:02:27.000 Here's my concern with your question, and then I'll answer it the best I can, which the answer will probably not surprise you.

01:02:33.000 The overemphasis on eschatology can have an unintended consequence of inaction.

01:02:40.000 If you think Jesus is coming next Thursday, then why do you have to be involved, right?

01:02:46.000 We're going to get zapped up.

01:02:47.000 What does it matter?

01:02:49.000 So we cannot allow our eschatology to turn into an excuse for inaction.

01:02:53.000 I know that's not why you're asking it, but a lot of people will say that, like, hey, Charlie, this thing's, it's not falling apart, it's falling together.

01:03:00.000 It's coming together.

01:03:01.000 And I just kind of push back on that a little bit.

01:03:04.000 And so my answer is very simple: I don't know.

01:03:06.000 You're going to have to ask someone with a lot more theological kind of understanding than I do.

01:03:11.000 It's hard to disagree that things certainly seem to be falling in place.

01:03:14.000 However, it could be another 10 years, 100 years, 500 years, 750 years, 1,000 years.

01:03:18.000 The day and the hour is unknown.

01:03:19.000 We can look to the signs of the times, but we have to occupy till he comes.

01:03:23.000 So my mission is to occupy until he comes and let the rest figure itself out.

01:03:28.000 Thank you.

01:03:29.000 We'll go here and then we'll actually, that'll be the last one, okay?

01:03:33.000 Hello, Charlie.

01:03:34.000 I'm up here to talk about the immigration and people coming into our country.

01:03:39.000 We're here as Christians to show God's love.

01:03:43.000 For people that are taking 10 years to do it the right way to come into our country, it gets frustrating for them, for the people that are coming in illegally. 0.98

01:03:55.000 Where from God's point as showing God's love and giving to everyone?

01:04:01.000 Where does it come to like we're doing it the right way?

01:04:04.000 We're coming in.

01:04:06.000 Just your take on it.

01:04:07.000 So the Bible talks extensively about immigration.

01:04:10.000 Every time immigration is mentioned or the kind of flow of people from one place to the other, assimilation is also mentioned alongside of it.

01:04:17.000 I believe that immigration can and has been a positive in our country's history, but also anything that's a positive in life can also be a negative if it's not done correctly.

01:04:27.000 And the fact that I say that out loud and people find that to be disagreeable, I think is patently insane, right?

01:04:32.000 So first and foremost, we must look at our political leaders.

01:04:35.000 Our political leaders have a moral obligation to their fellow countrymen and to the country that they govern.

01:04:40.000 They do not have an obligation constitutionally to another country.

01:04:44.000 They do not.

01:04:45.000 And we must be very clear about that.

01:04:48.000 Now, when we understand what's happening on the southern border, I have a certain view.

01:04:51.000 I do not believe that's immigration. 0.98

01:04:53.000 I do not.

01:04:53.000 I believe that's cutting in line and disenfranchising the legal immigrants from Vietnam or from Iran or from any other country to try to come into America because they have a closer proximity, right?

01:05:05.000 I've been on the southern border.

01:05:07.000 I know a lot of you have as well.

01:05:08.000 I've been down to Yuma and I've seen over 100 different passports that were dropped right before they entered into the country.

01:05:14.000 This is an unmitigated disaster.

01:05:16.000 You can go look at it yourself. 0.71

01:05:18.000 You can go look at the rape tree of girls as young as 10 years old that are raped as they come across the southern border.

01:05:23.000 How about the opioids flowing into our country?

01:05:26.000 Over 100,000 plus opioid deaths, not including the fentanyl deaths.

01:05:30.000 And so we as Christians must balance the commandment to love our neighbor with also understanding what is the damage of our own policies doing to our own neighbor here when you see the overdose death because we allowed the fentanyl to pour into America, when you see the increase in crime or the deterioration of wages.

01:05:49.000 So it's very simple.

01:05:51.000 I believe that we must have a complete and total clawback of immigration in our country right now. 1.00

01:05:56.000 We've taken in a ton of people, both illegally and legally.

01:05:59.000 We need some time to assimilate and slow it down.

01:06:02.000 America has always gone through cycles of immigration, right? 0.72

01:06:05.000 We go up, we go down.

01:06:06.000 The 1950s went down and kind of stayed there for a little bit because why?

01:06:10.000 We wanted to make sure that every single World War II veteran was able to enter into a robust and booming economy because we had a moral obligation for the men that stormed Normandy Beach and fought at Iwo Jima and Guadalcanal that they would be able to have a booming wage economy and not have to compete against others for that.

01:06:26.000 And then we increased immigration in the years that followed as our economy in the country necessitated it.

01:06:31.000 At times, I believe too much.

01:06:33.000 At other times, I think it was appropriate.

01:06:34.000 I mean, there's an amazing Armenian population here in Fresno that have been incredible benefit, you know, to the people here in the valley, right?

01:06:41.000 So immigration can be a positive.

01:06:43.000 Right now, it's more of a negative than it is a positive.

01:06:46.000 And we must admit what's in front of you.

01:06:48.000 And I believe that's the biblical thing to do.

01:06:50.000 So, God bless you.

01:06:51.000 Thank you.

01:06:52.000 Final question.

01:06:53.000 Yes, Charlie, thank you for being here and coming to Fresno.

01:06:57.000 Even though I guess it was called an armpit, it's a beautiful, refreshing one, right?

01:07:03.000 My name is Nicholas Wildstar.

01:07:04.000 I'm actually running against one of those leftist city council members you were talking about for the first time.

01:07:10.000 God bless you, Mr. Good.

01:07:11.000 Yeah, I'm doing my best.

01:07:13.000 And that's actually my question for you.

01:07:15.000 We know when it comes to politics, money runs politics.

01:07:18.000 I mean, even when it comes to getting your name out there, I mean, the guy that I'm running against, he has $150,000.

01:07:25.000 I'm a grassroots guy, so it's very difficult for me to get my name out there.

01:07:30.000 So when it comes to the public getting their considerations for who they should vote for, a lot of them are coming to the church, but they are some of those complicit, cowardly churches that you spoke about.

01:07:43.000 So two-part question.

01:07:46.000 One, what would you recommend to the people to actually get the best recommendations for who would represent them the best when it comes to local politics?

01:07:56.000 And two, for me as a candidate, what can I do to actually overcome that hurdle?

01:08:01.000 I think this church is led so well that if you have any questions about local political matters, I would always just say ask your pastor, right?

01:08:08.000 And if your pastor doesn't answer, then you might have to find a new pastor, right?

01:08:12.000 If they're not going to tell you to vote for.

01:08:14.000 But look, I first just want to encourage you: we need more people to run for local office.

01:08:17.000 We really do.

01:08:18.000 We need people to push back against what's happening.

01:08:21.000 And look, you're right, money drives politics, but not always on a local level.

01:08:25.000 That is the one exception.

01:08:27.000 I've seen time and time again the harder-working candidate on a local level can beat a lot of money.

01:08:32.000 And so, look, you got to work the business community, you got to work the local area, right?

01:08:37.000 And then finally, to kind of your other question, which is what is it going to take, you know, to get more people engaged and involved in all of this, especially as a candidate who's just trying to build name ID and all that?

01:08:48.000 Look, it requires a commitment to have a message that resonates, not care about what the local press is actually going to say about you or push back against you.

01:08:57.000 And then work events like this, right?

01:08:59.000 It's going to be a lot of early breakfasts and late nights.

01:09:02.000 But I just want to make a comment on the complicit and the cowardly church.

01:09:06.000 They have to, they have, they are going to have to be held accountable at some point for being quiet for the deterioration of this city or the region, right?

01:09:16.000 We're stewards, and the church needs to be the moral clarion call for what needs to happen in a local area, state, or region.

01:09:24.000 And so, just God bless you, man, for running for office.

01:09:27.000 I really deeply appreciate that.

01:09:29.000 Can I say one thing?

01:09:30.000 I'm just going to say one thing in person.

01:09:32.000 So, this is an awesome event.

01:09:34.000 It really was.

01:09:35.000 There's one shameless thing I'm going to ask you guys to do, though.

01:09:38.000 Is that okay?

01:09:39.000 One way you could help me and help us.

01:09:41.000 So, I traveled 330 days last year on the road.

01:09:45.000 We still do three podcasts a day, three hours of radio every single day.

01:09:50.000 And so, for those of you that have been to our events before, you know exactly what I'm going to ask you to do.

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01:10:35.000 It really does help us out.

01:10:36.000 It allows us to flourish and to grow and to strengthen in a very considerable and powerful way.

01:10:42.000 So thank you guys for that.

01:10:43.000 So in closing, I want to say this.

01:10:44.000 What an awesome church this is, right?

01:10:46.000 I mean, this is not your church home.

01:10:49.000 This should become your church home, everybody.

01:10:51.000 And what we are doing at Turning Point USA is we are trying to empower the everyday person, the citizen, to be able to take back their country against the regime.

01:11:03.000 I want all of you to make a decision tonight that you're going to be part of this historical movement that's not going to happen overnight.

01:11:10.000 It's not going to happen in a moment, but the good things take a long period of time, as we talked about earlier.

01:11:15.000 Now, we're going to build new things.

01:11:17.000 We're going to start new businesses.

01:11:19.000 We're going to start new schools.

01:11:20.000 We're going to start new families.

01:11:21.000 We're going to flourish.

01:11:22.000 We're going to grow.

01:11:23.000 We're going to prosper together.

01:11:24.000 We are going to be in the movement of optimism while they're depressing and they're pessimistic.

01:11:28.000 I truly believe that there's this remnant in this country that's going to continue to light these flames of liberty.

01:11:33.000 One of my favorite quotes by a founding father, Samuel Adams, you all know him from other fame, but Samuel Adams, he said, all it takes for a country to go back to freedom is not a majority, but an irresistible, not an irresistible, I'm sorry, a restless minority to continue to light flames of fire in every single corner they go.

01:12:00.000 That's Samuel Adams, who did that himself.

01:12:03.000 And so, yes, you might feel outnumbered.

01:12:04.000 You might feel as if that the forces against you are overwhelming, but that's where you guys come in.

01:12:09.000 And tonight, I know there's someone that needed to hear that that can start an organization.

01:12:13.000 I started this when I was 18 years old, everybody.

01:12:14.000 No money, no connections, no idea what I was doing.

01:12:16.000 And it's the favor of the Lord and the Holy Spirit that has just spoke through us now for a decade.

01:12:21.000 Somebody in this audience could start something as exciting or more exciting as Turning Point USA, a business, a movement, whatever it might be.

01:12:28.000 And we're on high school and college campuses all across the country and now churches.

01:12:32.000 And we're building that coalition where maybe in one year or five years or 10 years or 20 years, all of a sudden, you're going to look around and be like, wow, this country is freer than it was when we were in that kind of church together.

01:12:45.000 And it's going to be because of the work that you put in today where that output's going to happen tomorrow.

01:12:51.000 And it's going to be worth it for our grandkids and for future generations.

01:12:54.000 Remember, liberty, it's not man's idea.

01:12:56.000 It's God's idea.

01:12:57.000 It's now up to us to get to work.

01:12:59.000 God bless you guys.

01:13:00.000 Thank you so much.

01:13:05.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

01:13:06.000 Email me your thoughts is always freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:13:08.000 Thank you so much for listening.

01:13:09.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 08, 2022

How the Church Can Build Something New in America—LIVE from Cornerstone Church in Fresno, California

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