The Charlie Kirk Show - How the Left Lost the Narrative War on Abortion

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00:01:44.000 Friday was one of the most monumental victory for conservatives, for constitutionalists, for people that want to protect and preserve life.

00:01:59.000 It was a massive victory.

00:02:01.000 But we were so ready, we were bracing for impact that we were going to lose the narrative war and we were just going to have to take it.

00:02:11.000 But remarkably, days later, now on Monday, they look like the zealots and the extremists.

00:02:19.000 And we look as if we're the moderate and reasonable ones because we are, by the way, they're the ones that are arguing irrationally and frenetically.

00:02:32.000 They are the ones where they have tape after tape that is circulating on social media that shows that there's something deeper at play here than just an abortion debate.

00:02:45.000 Now, it's important to reinforce the point.

00:02:49.000 Roe versus Wade being overturned is a very moderate decision.

00:02:54.000 The court did not take a position on the constitutionality of the practice of abortion, of which I do believe for the preservation of life that abortion should be unconstitutional.

00:03:04.000 That is not the decision they made.

00:03:06.000 They instead made a very technical judicial decision, of which I completely support and I'm very thankful for, where they said that the judicial activism that Roe versus Wade started and judicial activism that they used was not a proper way of nationalizing or creating a new right that is not found in the Constitution through some sort of weird calisthenic interpretation of the 14th Amendment.

00:03:33.000 Now, this would have happened earlier if it wasn't for Justice Kennedy in Planned Parenthood v. Casey in the early 1990s making a very bizarre, abstract argument about how you could define your own existence.

00:03:45.000 And there really is no such thing as objective truth.

00:03:48.000 One of the weirdest decisions ever issued.

00:03:50.000 And it was a massive blow to the pro-life movement because they thought in the early 90s this would be a way to overturn Roe.

00:03:57.000 This is a very moderate position.

00:03:59.000 All four justices that wanted to uphold Roe, they're like, well, just because a decision is, you know, a decision gets forward, who are we to overturn it?

00:04:07.000 Now, of course, that is an incredibly silly and immoral way to look at your role as a Supreme Court justice.

00:04:13.000 Just look at the Dred Scott decision. 0.59

00:04:16.000 The court was wrong, and then they reversed their decision later.

00:04:21.000 The court allows for adjustments, improvements, and corrections.

00:04:26.000 So here's just one example of how and why we are winning the narrative war.

00:04:31.000 While those of us that are pro-life are thanking God, we're not rubbing it in people's face.

00:04:37.000 We're saying it goes back down to the states.

00:04:39.000 You can make your own decision.

00:04:42.000 About eight states now have completely outlawed abortion, which is amazing.

00:04:46.000 This is how the other side is reacting.

00:04:49.000 And this is not an isolated clip.

00:04:51.000 They're posting these all over social media.

00:04:54.000 Play cut 29.

00:04:57.000 Let it out.

00:05:00.000 Let it out.

00:05:16.000 Now, that is one of many clips that I could play for you: of TikTok videos, Twitter videos, and Facebook videos of people that are just losing their mind.

00:05:25.000 Now, if you don't think this is a spiritual battle, I encourage you to re-watch that video.

00:05:28.000 They look like the irrational ones because they are.

00:05:31.000 There is no argument that is resonating right now with the reasonable, kind of more moderate middle in the country that they are offering.

00:05:46.000 For example, Cut 10.

00:05:51.000 Democrat Representative Katie Porter, back in May, you might remember, said the reason we need abortion is that it's too expensive to have children, that we should be able to terminate the little ones that are smaller than us and less developed than us because of inflation.

00:06:10.000 Play cut 10.

00:06:11.000 Things like inflation can happen and it can become more expensive to feed your kids and to fuel your car is exactly why people need to be able to be in charge of how many mouths they're going to have to feed. 0.99

00:06:24.000 So the argument that is being made is that because the cost of living is too much, that you should be able to terminate those that might need a meal here and there.

00:06:37.000 And it's not stopping there. 0.99

00:06:39.000 We will get the tape here of Anna Navarro as well, who said we need abortion because of people with Down syndrome, because of people that have special needs, that it's hard to have people with special needs in your family, and we should just be able to get rid of them.

00:06:55.000 You see, the left missed their opportunity.

00:06:57.000 If I was pro-abortion, of which I am not, I would have given them much different advice.

00:07:03.000 You see, the pro-abortion fanatics, they used to be able to resonate with people when they would talk about the 13 or 14-year-old young girl who has their whole life ahead of them.

00:07:13.000 Those arguments can emotionally connect with people.

00:07:16.000 I think that they're obviously morally flawed, but those arguments tend to resonate.

00:07:23.000 Instead, you get arguments like this.

00:07:26.000 You get arguments like Jessica Tarlov on Fox News saying that she finds it hard to believe that if one of Ted Cruz's daughters got pregnant because she was raped or if because an uncle got her pregnant, that he wouldn't do everything in his power to make sure that baby didn't come to term.

00:07:42.000 Play cut 11.

00:07:44.000 Protecting the life of the mother.

00:07:45.000 Some of these states are going to have no exceptions for rape.

00:07:50.000 It's hard to believe.

00:07:52.000 For the conservatives on TV, I saw Ted Cruz on earlier, you know, touting the ruling that if one of Ted Cruz's daughters got pregnant because she was raped, or God forbid, an uncle or someone got her pregnant, that he wouldn't do everything in his power to make sure that his daughter didn't have to carry that baby to term.

00:08:07.000 The hypocrisy is beyond comprehension here. 0.90

00:08:11.000 Republican women get pregnant too. 1.00

00:08:13.000 And I'm not saying we can't have a conversation about 15 weeks or 20 weeks.

00:08:16.000 I know a lot of people who are pro-choice have numbers like that, but.

00:08:21.000 The more they talk, the more unreasonable they seem.

00:08:26.000 And yet we continue as pro-lifers.

00:08:28.000 We were very disciplined over the weekend.

00:08:30.000 We talked about the need to be able to offer services and to offer help for people that are now having children come into the world, that we have a moral obligation as pro-lifers to offer all the resources available so that abortion is just unthinkable because people cite financial circumstances for abortion.

00:08:56.000 And it's a remarkable thing because as we look back to Friday and the reversal of Roe versus Wade, I thought we were going to lose the narrative war.

00:09:07.000 And the narrative industrial complex is collapsing.

00:09:12.000 You see, they're so used to being able to talk about the same five or six things over and over again.

00:09:19.000 But because of the social media age and because of the infrastructure the conservative movement has built and because of our very talented radio show hosts and podcast hosts and people like Tucker Carlson and our social media infrastructure that's been built on the right.

00:09:35.000 And yes, the meme community.

00:09:38.000 The left doesn't stand a chance.

00:09:40.000 They just keep on writing the same things and people find it to be unpersuasive.

00:09:45.000 And they're talking about eliminating people due to special needs.

00:09:51.000 Children are too expensive, as Katie Porter would say.

00:09:54.000 Or as Jessica Tarlov would be, you know, Ted Cruz isn't really pro-life because if his uncle or his brother impregnated his daughter, then what would he do then?

00:10:05.000 Who seems to be the unreasonable ones?

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00:12:01.000 In the West, based on Judeo-Christian values and principles, we believe that the strong must protect the weak.

00:12:10.000 The big must protect the small.

00:12:13.000 We take this for granted. 0.99

00:12:15.000 You see, in the 1920s and 1930s, there was a massive eugenics movement in America. 0.74

00:12:24.000 It was led by people such as Margaret Sanger and many others.

00:12:29.000 Eugenics basically comes from a Greek word, you, which means good or well, and genics, obviously, which means genes, grown into being from the beginning.

00:12:42.000 It's a set of beliefs or practices that aim to improve the genetic quality of a specific human population.

00:12:51.000 Now, America didn't just dabble in this. 1.00

00:12:53.000 We went full-throated into it. 1.00

00:12:55.000 We massively sterilized tens of thousands of women in the 1920s that we called idiot women. 1.00

00:13:03.000 Oliver Wendell Holmes, Supreme Court justice, wrote extensively about the moral need to sterilize women that IQ is too low. 0.99

00:13:15.000 So eugenics is set on a belief of practices trying to kill or trying to get rid of people that are less than. 0.63

00:13:25.000 Now, because of a religious revival in our country and an awakening, we decided this was wrong, inappropriate, and immoral at every single turn. 0.67

00:13:35.000 We were trying to attack the Nazis, the National Socialist Workers' Party, for doing eugenics, when in reality, the Nazis actually got some of their ideas of eugenics from Margaret Sanger and Oliver Wendell Holmes.

00:13:49.000 You see, absent a Judeo-Christian moral construct where you believe that all people are image bearers, that you believe all people are worthy of protection and value, of infinite value, if you just think people are a clump of cells, then it's very tempting and it's very easy to want to use your power, your incumbent advantage, your size, your level of development, your environment to then crush or eliminate those people that might you deem a parasite.

00:14:19.000 You see, many of the pro-abortion fanatics will consider certain people to be parasites if they are in the womb.

00:14:30.000 We believe that every life has value.

00:14:35.000 Anna Navarro went on CNN and she said that special needs families, it could be very expensive and that we need abortion to be able to eliminate people that might have autism or Down syndrome.

00:14:53.000 Play Cut 31.

00:14:54.000 And I am not anybody to tell you what you need to do with your life or with your uterus.

00:14:59.000 And because I have a family with a lot of special needs kids, I have a brother who's 57 and has the mental and motive skills of a one-year-old.

00:15:08.000 And I know what that means financially, emotionally, physically for a family.

00:15:13.000 And I know not all families can do it.

00:15:16.000 And I have a step-granddaughter who was born with a Down syndrome.

00:15:19.000 And you know what?

00:15:20.000 It is very difficult.

00:15:22.000 Yeah, it's very difficult.

00:15:23.000 She goes on to say that she's a Catholic inside the church.

00:15:26.000 It's impossible to be a practicing Catholic and to also say what she just said.

00:15:31.000 You see, that only reinforces the argument that all of a sudden people are looking at us and say, wait a second, I might have been sympathetic to some allowances for abortion, but you're saying we should eliminate people just because they don't talk as fast as you?

00:15:46.000 Well, this is not some sort of abstract argument.

00:15:50.000 In Iceland, for example, they are systematically eradicating Down syndrome.

00:15:57.000 They do what is called prenatal screening through blood tests, and they eliminate children if they have Down syndrome.

00:16:08.000 You could read it, theatlantic.com.

00:16:11.000 The last children of Down syndrome, theatlantic.com.

00:16:14.000 Prenatal testing is changing who gets born and who doesn't.

00:16:18.000 This is just the beginning, theatlantic.com.

00:16:22.000 So here's a question.

00:16:23.000 Are you going to do IQ screening?

00:16:25.000 If someone's IQ isn't high enough, will you eliminate them? 0.61

00:16:31.000 You see, the eugenics movement pushed forward by Margaret Sanger in the pivot of civilization. 0.91

00:16:37.000 She wrote her thoughts that immigrants, the poor, all these people very well, she called them human weeds, reckless breeders, spawning human beings who never should have been born. 0.95

00:16:53.000 She said, quote, I think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children into the world that have a disease from their parents, that have no chance in the world to be a human being practically. 1.00

00:17:02.000 Delinquents, prisoners, all sorts of things just marked when they're born.

00:17:06.000 That to me is the greatest sin that people can commit.

00:17:10.000 This is Margaret Sanger, and Anna Navarro is paralleling that.

00:17:16.000 Who is Margaret Sanger? 0.98

00:17:17.000 Margaret Sanger is one of the founders of Planned Parenthood.

00:17:22.000 Planned Parenthood, the very same abortion factory that is up in arms right now because of the reversal of Roe versus Wade.

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00:18:29.000 With us right now is the great Andy Biggs, who I wish we had 500 Annie Biggs in Washington, D.C. Congressman Biggs.

00:18:38.000 Welcome back to the program.

00:18:39.000 Charlie, great to be with you.

00:18:41.000 It's always good to be with you.

00:18:43.000 Thanks for all you do.

00:18:44.000 Thank you very much.

00:18:45.000 Thank you.

00:18:46.000 So catch me up to speed here, Andy.

00:18:49.000 So Arizona, prior to what happened last Friday, the reversal Roe versus Wade, from I understand correctly, they never actually got rid of their previous abortion ban.

00:19:01.000 Where does Arizona stand on all of this?

00:19:04.000 Because it doesn't seem as if they're kind of in the list of states that will soon outlaw abortion.

00:19:10.000 Well, Charlie, from statehood, the statute has been on the books that no abortion is allowed except for in the case to protect the life of the mother.

00:19:20.000 So that has never been rescinded.

00:19:24.000 So that is the current state of the law.

00:19:26.000 There was another law that they kicked around, and I'm not sure it got passed, but it dealt with rape and incest as well.

00:19:35.000 But I don't know that that ever was passed into law.

00:19:38.000 So the current state of the law is unless you're protecting the lives of the mother, you cannot do an abortion in Arizona.

00:19:44.000 And so, is that now being enforced?

00:19:46.000 That's the question.

00:19:47.000 I mean, there are Planned Parenthood clinics in Arizona.

00:19:51.000 Are they closing?

00:19:52.000 Who's actually kind of putting the pressure on to make sure this law gets enforced?

00:19:56.000 Well, that's going to have to come from Governor Ducey's office and the Department of Public Safety and the State Attorney General all have to go in and start enforcing that law.

00:20:06.000 And I think I don't know why this might have caught anybody off guard, but it happened so quickly.

00:20:12.000 I was expecting the decision this week.

00:20:14.000 In fact, I thought it was going to come out today, but it came a little bit earlier.

00:20:18.000 But the AG has got to basically be the one who goes in and prosecutes.

00:20:24.000 And I don't know if they're set up to do it just yet.

00:20:28.000 You know, it was interesting.

00:20:29.000 I spent some time in Scottsdale in Paradise Valley, and there were some very upset people.

00:20:34.000 And they said, you know what?

00:20:35.000 I moved here to Arizona and I'm going to move back to California because abortion is illegal. 1.00

00:20:40.000 I said, perfect.

00:20:41.000 It's already working for no other reason to get these Californians out of Arizona. 1.00

00:20:46.000 It's kind of just like a self-deportation thing.

00:20:49.000 You can go back to Sacramento.

00:20:50.000 You can go back to San Francisco.

00:20:52.000 Perfectly fine with me.

00:20:53.000 So actually breaking right now, Planned Parenthood of Arizona says it's putting all abortion services on hold until there's a clear idea of the legal landscape in Arizona.

00:21:03.000 So that's Planned Parenthood right now that has put that forward.

00:21:07.000 So I want to ask you, from your perspective in Washington, D.C., it seems as if the Democrats are continuing on this January 6th committee.

00:21:18.000 You wrote a whole article on this.

00:21:20.000 Do you think that's really what your constituents want?

00:21:23.000 Is that what voters are demanding right now?

00:21:26.000 No, that is so far down the list.

00:21:28.000 No one's even paying attention.

00:21:30.000 And I have to tell you, my voters in Arizona, and I've looked at multiple polls, not just ones that I've run, but others have run.

00:21:38.000 And the top two issues, and they're almost neck and neck are the inflation and economy.

00:21:44.000 That's right there with border security.

00:21:47.000 And actually, most of the time, border security is on top, but they're both very close and they both have tremendous impact on Arizona.

00:21:53.000 And you know, Charlie, that Arizona, particularly the Phoenix metro area, has effectively the highest inflation rate in the country.

00:22:01.000 Yes, that's right.

00:22:02.000 And yeah, it's incredible.

00:22:04.000 And I, you know, go to fill up my tank with gas and it's like 569, 570 per tank.

00:22:10.000 And that's that's outrageous, outrageous.

00:22:13.000 And it's not just that, but it's the price of housing, groceries, everything in Phoenix is up.

00:22:18.000 Why has Phoenix kind of become the worst for inflation?

00:22:22.000 What do you think the reason for that is?

00:22:25.000 A couple of reasons.

00:22:26.000 First of all, we don't have the access to enough pipelines and enough flow from California and Texas of gas into the country.

00:22:34.000 So that's going to just naturally deal with the technical side of things.

00:22:38.000 But then when you move to the classical definition, we've got basically this, the currency is devalued.

00:22:46.000 We've got so much growth here, and it's really red hot.

00:22:50.000 You know it.

00:22:51.000 The price of housing was already going way up ridiculously high.

00:22:55.000 And then when Biden came in and they caused the supply chain problems, you have the late, then they supplied all these people incentives to stay home and they've not come back to work yet.

00:23:06.000 Even though you have an artificially reported low unemployment rate, so there's all these jobs that are open in Arizona and throughout the country.

00:23:13.000 But the bottom line is this.

00:23:15.000 When you devalue your currency and then at the same time, you create these scarcities like in energy, you're going to have massive amounts of pressure.

00:23:22.000 And Arizona doesn't have a relief valve because we don't have a refinery.

00:23:27.000 We don't have the adequate pipelines on the energy side.

00:23:31.000 And then we're just growing like all your friends, your friends that need to move back to California now, they've all moved here for jobs because the companies have come here because we've got this tremendous job environment, low taxes, low regulatory environment, great infrastructure.

00:23:48.000 And so it's driving all these prices up as well.

00:23:51.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:23:53.000 And it's not just Phoenix, but it's also happening Atlanta.

00:23:55.000 It's happening in many other areas.

00:23:56.000 But Phoenix is by far the worst.

00:23:59.000 We're certainly feeling it here.

00:24:01.000 So let's talk about this week, over the weekend, there were these Arizona Capitol riots.

00:24:06.000 So kind of the great irony is that we have a whole committee that is supposed to go look into insurrection.

00:24:12.000 And it looked as if there was almost an attempted insurrection over the weekend, was there not?

00:24:17.000 There was in both in Washington, D.C.

00:24:21.000 And that insurrection has been going on.

00:24:23.000 First of all, in Washington, D.C., when you're trying to intimidate Supreme Court justices to change their view, yet also have somebody that leaked the report.

00:24:32.000 That's an insurrection in the classical definition.

00:24:36.000 And then you saw what happened at the state capitol in Arizona and Phoenix.

00:24:41.000 All these people trying to get in and interrupt and cause mayhem and riot and the criminal damage they did.

00:24:50.000 I thought Senator Kelly Townsend, Senator Prescient Twitter that I read at the time that said, you know, where's the J-24?

00:24:57.000 I think I can't remember how she phrased it, but where's the J-24th Commission?

00:25:01.000 And that's, you know, that was as insurrectionist as anything else you'll see, this rioting.

00:25:08.000 And we have to face that, Charlie.

00:25:10.000 That's what the left does.

00:25:12.000 You and I, well, you weren't around, but when I was there with the conservative movement and the pro-life movement, we didn't say we're going to burn down the Supreme Court.

00:25:20.000 We didn't say it's irrelevant.

00:25:22.000 We want to pack the Supreme Court.

00:25:23.000 We didn't say it's illegitimate.

00:25:25.000 We said we're going to have to work this thing through and try to make this right.

00:25:29.000 But the other side, they immediately go to violence.

00:25:33.000 And we've seen that, particularly in the last 12 years.

00:25:37.000 Yeah.

00:25:37.000 And they say that you're not supposed to do any of this.

00:25:41.000 Obviously, we agree, but yet they do it themselves.

00:25:43.000 So let's go to cut 16 video of when the session inside the Arizona State Capitol was disrupted because of the pro-abortion rioters outside trying to break in.

00:25:50.000 Play cut 16.

00:25:52.000 Please listen.

00:25:53.000 We are going to recess.

00:25:54.000 We're going into recess right now, okay?

00:25:56.000 We have a security problem outside.

00:25:59.000 Members, please go to, please go stop.

00:26:06.000 We're reset.

00:26:09.000 Wait a second.

00:26:09.000 So rioters actually interrupted the official proceeding of Arizona State Business.

00:26:16.000 Is that right, Andy?

00:26:17.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:26:19.000 Now, those people you heard yelling in there, those were teachers who were taking advantage of the situation because the historic vote that they were about to take was to grant essentially educational scholarship accounts to all 1.1 million kids in Arizona students in Arizona.

00:26:36.000 And so when she announces their security problem, there's a riot problem, they started chanting.

00:26:42.000 But yes, they were trying to break up an official session of the Arizona State Senate.

00:26:48.000 And, you know, I mean, we use the term insurrection loosely.

00:26:53.000 It was certainly a riot.

00:26:55.000 But if we have a new definition of insurrection, which I'm hearing about all the time in Washington, D.C., then this was about as close as you could come.

00:27:02.000 Cut 15 footage from inside the Arizona State Capitol of pro-abortion protesters trying to break in.

00:27:07.000 play cut 15.

00:27:30.000 After all of the kind of rancor that they put towards January 6th, that's what they then do, is they try to then bust down the doors of the Arizona State Capitol.

00:27:42.000 Your thoughts, Andy, as we close?

00:27:44.000 Yeah, absolutely right.

00:27:46.000 And this is, it's unbelievable this behavior that comes from the left.

00:27:52.000 Every time they move to violence immediately, every time I got a kick out of Babylon B, they did a headline that said the January 6th committee recesses so they could encourage insurrection throughout the country.

00:28:04.000 And that's really what you've seen from the left, from Pelosi, Schumer, AOC, Elizabeth Warren.

00:28:11.000 And you know what?

00:28:14.000 They're actually calling for action.

00:28:16.000 And so maybe they should be held accountable.

00:28:18.000 Yeah, very good.

00:28:19.000 Congressman Biggs, thank you so much from the great state of Arizona.

00:28:22.000 We got to take it back.

00:28:23.000 We got to win the Senate race and keep the governor's mansion red.

00:28:25.000 It's super important.

00:28:26.000 Thank you.

00:28:27.000 Amen, brother.

00:28:28.000 God bless you.

00:28:28.000 Amen, brother.

00:28:29.000 Thank you.

00:28:29.000 Thanks.

00:28:30.000 As we wait for Kelly Shackelford, we will go to a tape here of Lori Lightfoot having some choice words for Clarence Thomas, play cut three.

00:28:40.000 If you read Clarence Thomas concurrence, he said thank you, Clarence Thomas.

00:28:48.000 You both of us.

00:28:51.000 He thinks that we are going to stand idly by when they take our rights.

00:28:57.000 As Lori Lightfoot on Clarence Thomas, meanwhile, just over the weekend, let's see, seven killed and 34 wounded over the weekend in Chicago.

00:29:10.000 In just June, 56 people shot and killed in Chicago, 268 shot and wounded, 324 shot, and 61 total homicides. 0.60

00:29:18.000 But Lori Lightfoot, the lesbian black mayor of Chicago, is screaming at Clarence Thomas, saying, whatever. 1.00

00:29:29.000 F. Clarence Thomas is what she said. 0.91

00:29:30.000 With us is Kelly Shackelford.

00:29:32.000 Congratulations on the massive victory in front of the Supreme Court.

00:29:35.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:29:36.000 It was a great day.

00:29:38.000 Great opinion.

00:29:39.000 Doing a bunch of interviews with Coach Kennedy.

00:29:41.000 You'll probably see some tonight, Hannity, and some other stuff.

00:29:44.000 It's just been a great celebration.

00:29:46.000 Yeah, so tell us about the case.

00:29:48.000 So just everyone knows firstliberty.org just won in front of the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:29:51.000 Coach Kennedy, we've talked about this on the program before, but essentially he wanted the opportunity to pray for 15 or 20 seconds, I think, after the game, to be able to honor God and thank God for his ability to coach his teammate, his players.

00:30:04.000 The school district didn't like that.

00:30:06.000 And now it's all up to the Supreme Court.

00:30:07.000 And the Supreme Court wrote what?

00:30:10.000 Six to three.

00:30:11.000 That violates the First Amendment.

00:30:13.000 They violated his right to free speech, his right to the free exercise of his religion.

00:30:17.000 And saying that some student or some spectator might see him from 100 yards away meant that they should squelch and really take away his First Amendment rights is no excuse.

00:30:29.000 And so a really strong opinion in favor of the First Amendment, in favor of Coach Kennedy.

00:30:36.000 This is going to be something that affects every teacher, every coach.

00:30:40.000 They don't have to run away from who they are.

00:30:42.000 In this country, neither teachers nor students relinquish their First Amendment rights at the schoolhouse gate.

00:30:49.000 They said he didn't coerce anyone, which was always true.

00:30:53.000 The facts were in, they were very clear.

00:30:55.000 And he has a right to go down after the game when everybody's milling around and checking their cell phones and calling and checking dinner reservations.

00:31:03.000 The idea that he couldn't go to a knee and pray to thank God for the privilege of coaching those young men that he coaches, it really was outrageous.

00:31:11.000 But for six years, Charlie, he lost every step of the way.

00:31:17.000 And so it was today is our first victory in six years.

00:31:20.000 And it's not only a victory for him, it's a major precedent that is going to be big because it took a bad case that was passed about 50 years ago and they threw it out.

00:31:33.000 And that's, it's what's been causing a lot of this hostility to religion in our schools for the last 50 years.

00:31:39.000 And that's going to be gone from now.

00:31:41.000 And we're going to go with believing in the First Amendment.

00:31:44.000 What are the implications then of this?

00:31:47.000 Big.

00:31:48.000 Because there's a case called Lemon.

00:31:50.000 It's aptly named.

00:31:51.000 It's a Lemon.

00:31:52.000 It's a horrible case.

00:31:53.000 And it kind of makes the government almost root around and try to find religion and say, well, it can't happen here.

00:31:59.000 And that's not what the First Amendment says.

00:32:02.000 We don't want the government to coerce anyone with regard to their religion or establish a national religion.

00:32:08.000 But we also believe in the free exercise rights of every citizen and the free speech rights of every citizen.

00:32:14.000 So the idea that you would remove religion is not what the founders were for.

00:32:19.000 And that's not teaching kids the right thing in school.

00:32:22.000 And so now everybody's going to have their constitutional rights.

00:32:26.000 We've got a court who believes in originalism, which is what is the original meaning of the text.

00:32:31.000 And they're taking us back to these founding principles that our country is built on.

00:32:35.000 So God bless Justice Gorsuch and God bless Donald Trump for putting these great justice.

00:32:41.000 That's exactly right.

00:32:41.000 Without Trump, none of these victories would be a six to three Hillary Clinton court.

00:32:46.000 It would be Alito and it would be actually seven to two.

00:32:51.000 Yeah, it'd be Alito and Thomas.

00:32:52.000 And I don't even think Roberts would be with that.

00:32:54.000 He was on the right side here, but who knows, right?

00:32:57.000 If he didn't have them.

00:32:58.000 Remember, Roberts is always there when you don't need him.

00:33:01.000 Kelly, God bless you.

00:33:02.000 Firstliberty.org.

00:33:03.000 Great job.

00:33:04.000 Great victory.

00:33:05.000 Wish we had more time.

00:33:05.000 Thanks so much.

00:33:06.000 Thank you.

00:33:10.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:11.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:13.000 Thank you so much for listening.

00:33:15.000 God bless.

00:33:18.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk dot com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 27, 2022

How the Left Lost the Narrative War on Abortion

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