The Charlie Kirk Show - December 15, 2022


How the RNC is Blowing YOUR Money with Stephen Miller


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Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, I go through my take on the Republican National Committee spending story, and then Stephen Miller gives us an update from the border and some of his successful legal challenges. Support our program at CharlieKirk.us/slashsupport and get involved with Turning Point USA today.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, I go through my take on the RNC spending story.
00:00:05.000 And then Stephen Miller gives us an update from the border and some of his successful legal challenges.
00:00:10.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:00:13.000 Support our program at charliekirk.com/slash support and get involved with Turning Point USA today.
00:00:19.000 That's TurningPointUSA at tpusa.com.
00:00:23.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:24.000 Here we go.
00:00:25.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:27.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:29.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:32.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:36.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:37.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:38.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.
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00:01:07.000 There was a powerful article that was published last evening by Jennifer Van Law.
00:01:11.000 We're going to have her on the program in a little bit.
00:01:13.000 Analysis of RNC spending since 2017.
00:01:18.000 Let me first by saying this: begin by saying this: that when we analyze and we judge the Republican National Committee, the GOP, especially the committee itself, it must be held to a higher standard.
00:01:35.000 It must be held to more scrutiny than almost any other organization.
00:01:41.000 And I'll tell you why.
00:01:43.000 First of all, the Republican National Committee is a very regulated organization.
00:01:48.000 The Republican National Committee cannot receive unlimited donations.
00:01:53.000 The top, the most that they can receive from a person or a couple, I believe, is $750,000 per year.
00:02:01.000 Now, you might say, well, Charlie, that's an extraordinary amount of money.
00:02:03.000 It is.
00:02:04.000 But super PACs, as you saw with George Soros putting $120 million in, can raise a lot of money very quickly from small amounts of people.
00:02:12.000 The Republican National Committee can also coordinate with campaigns.
00:02:17.000 So the RNC can work with state committees.
00:02:19.000 It could work with the Arizona Republican Party.
00:02:22.000 It can work with the Georgia Republican Party.
00:02:24.000 The RNC can also pick up the phone and talk to the Herschel Walker campaign.
00:02:28.000 It could talk to Donald Trump's campaign.
00:02:30.000 They could do things called JV JFCs.
00:02:35.000 That's right, JFCs, joint fundraising committees.
00:02:38.000 For example, they did this with Donald Trump and it was called Trump Victory.
00:02:42.000 So used correctly and used properly, the Republican National Committee, the GOP, is able to go places that super PACs legally are not allowed to go.
00:02:51.000 So for example, super PACs that you might see American Crossroads, which was Karl Robes deal, or Priorities USA, which is a left-wing one.
00:02:59.000 They are not allowed to pick up the phone and work with campaigns.
00:03:03.000 They are not allowed to pick up the phone and work with state committees.
00:03:06.000 They have to be separate.
00:03:07.000 They have to be walled off.
00:03:08.000 They're not allowed to coordinate.
00:03:10.000 The Republican National Committee and the Democrat National Committee, because they are parties, are the only organizations that are allowed to coordinate on messaging, on strategy, on resources, on funding, and especially when it comes to the state committees themselves.
00:03:29.000 Now, the Republican National Committee, because of that, is also able to get signatures for direct mail solicitations, for emails, and for text messages that other super PACs would not be able to get.
00:03:45.000 For example, the Republican National Committee was able to have Donald Trump sign a lot of their fundraising emails.
00:03:53.000 I'm sure many of you, we did a lot of coverage on this, would get relentless amount of emails saying 10 minutes left, five minutes left, triple match.
00:04:02.000 It was just nonstop.
00:04:04.000 And so because of this, the Republican National Committee had an advantage to be able to raise a lot of money using Donald Trump's signature under the pretense that we are the Republican Party.
00:04:18.000 Now, since the Republican Party, the RNC, is not able to raise unlimited amounts of money from top-level donors, every dollar they spend should be under harsher and greater scrutiny.
00:04:32.000 That's not to say that if you run an organization that can take unlimited donations, you should not be under scrutiny.
00:04:39.000 I happen to run one of them.
00:04:41.000 But when you are the party itself that can share data, volunteers, resources, walking lists, polling information with campaigns, every dollar matters.
00:04:55.000 So there is a report that came out by Jennifer Van Law that detailed some of the spending since 2017.
00:05:01.000 Now, many of you watching this program have donated generously to the RNC in years past, knowingly or unknowingly, by the way.
00:05:11.000 The RNC is the hub.
00:05:14.000 So therefore, if your hub starts misallocating money, if your hub does not spend money wisely or prudently or correctly, it could impact all sorts of different campaigns and advocacy that you're involved in.
00:05:32.000 You want to avoid even the appearance of poor spending.
00:05:36.000 So last evening, there was a report that came out that showed the following.
00:05:41.000 Now, some of this, I think, is being misunderstood.
00:05:45.000 Some of this, I think, is not being, not receiving enough criticism.
00:05:49.000 So, for example, some people are attacking the fact that the RNC spent $500,000 on private jets this last year.
00:05:59.000 Now, if you're running a massive organization like the RNC and you have to go to events and you have to raise lots of money and you have to do multiple stops, I could see part of that.
00:06:11.000 I could see that if you have tight windows and you got to go to weird locations, if you're doing a lot of business, let me just, I don't, I could dive into my own personal perspective on that.
00:06:22.000 Let me just put that aside and say I'm not even going to talk about that.
00:06:25.000 However, here's the one that I can't quite understand.
00:06:28.000 There's a couple I can't understand.
00:06:29.000 $321,000 on flowers.
00:06:34.000 Flowers.
00:06:36.000 So here you have a Nevada Senate race that was decided by a couple thousand votes, and the Republican Party, the hub, spent $321,000 on floral arrangements.
00:06:48.000 Are they hosting an Indian wedding every single day?
00:06:51.000 Well, what is the possible justification for spending $321,000 on flowers?
00:07:00.000 And then the kicker of the entire article.
00:07:03.000 And I'm going to read the RNC's response to this because I find it to be very weak.
00:07:09.000 $17 million on donor mementos.
00:07:17.000 Did you guys get any of those that donated to the RNC?
00:07:20.000 $17 million for donor mementos.
00:07:25.000 Let me read this for you.
00:07:26.000 So it is, it's right.
00:07:31.000 Apparently, according to this report, the RNC is quite generous to its donors, spending $17 million on donor mementos, custom pins by legendary DC jeweler Ann Hand, and Christmas ornaments from Shea Mart, the company that makes the White House Christmas ornaments, are listed as donor memento expenses.
00:07:53.000 But the financials also include $65,000 in office supplies from Ann Hand and $28,000 from Shea Mar.
00:08:03.000 So that's $17 million.
00:08:04.000 So the RNC's response was this.
00:08:07.000 The RNC's response was: well, we were basically forced to pay $17 million for this because these were for White House Christmas parties, White House picnics, and they put it on the RNC, of which the RNC should have said, we're not paying for it.
00:08:24.000 This is one of the big concerns that all of us have about the RNC, which is, are you a leader or not?
00:08:29.000 You stand up to the White House and say, no, our money is super valuable.
00:08:33.000 We're not going to spend $17 million on useless ornaments that say make America great again, that go put on a Christmas tree.
00:08:41.000 We got elections to win.
00:08:43.000 We are the hub.
00:08:44.000 Our dollars are precious.
00:08:46.000 Our donors are investing in us.
00:08:48.000 People are giving $50,000, $75 that they do not have in a time of inflation.
00:08:53.000 Why on earth are we spending $17 million on donor mementos?
00:08:58.000 So let me read this.
00:08:59.000 This is what they say in the RNC's response.
00:09:02.000 Just to be perfectly fair, they say donor mementos referenced in the story refer to money spent towards White House events, such as Christmas parties, congressional picnics, and Easter egg rolls.
00:09:13.000 Gifts for donors and guests of the White House were purchased at the discretion of the White House as a standard practice, regardless of which party has the presidency.
00:09:22.000 The respective party committee is responsible for paying for these events and gifts, not the American people, of which they should have said, We're not doing it.
00:09:31.000 Zero.
00:09:31.000 That's how much you get.
00:09:32.000 We're not paying for a gift.
00:09:33.000 And you know what?
00:09:34.000 I know this because I run an organization that raises a serious amount of money.
00:09:38.000 Donors will respect it.
00:09:40.000 Donors will appreciate the fact that you're not spending their money on some sort of trinket or giveaway, the vast majority of which probably do not keep or revere or even remember receiving.
00:09:51.000 $17 million on fine jewelry for donors.
00:09:57.000 That $17 million should have been spent on money to help Carrie Lake.
00:10:00.000 That $17 million should have been helping Adam Laxalt.
00:10:04.000 That $17 million could have helped any one of our candidates that were in these narrow races.
00:10:11.000 And what really bothers me, and again, I want to say this: if you're running an outside super PAC, in some ways, it's buyer beware.
00:10:20.000 Learn your lesson.
00:10:22.000 Is it well spent?
00:10:23.000 We find out.
00:10:24.000 Okay.
00:10:24.000 I mean, I could go into my own opinion and my perspective on that stuff.
00:10:28.000 If you're running the actual apparatus that is the RNC, that is the only organization, that is the only piece of infrastructure that is able to coordinate, share data, that is able to consolidate strategies, you are the hub.
00:10:44.000 By legal definition, the way the federal election code is written, the RNC is different.
00:10:51.000 And $17 million on donor mementos?
00:10:55.000 And the excuse is, well, the American people should have to pay for it.
00:10:58.000 Say no one gets gifts.
00:10:59.000 How about that?
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00:12:26.000 Look, so Turning Point USA is nowhere near the size of the RNC.
00:12:29.000 We are a fraction.
00:12:31.000 We do raise a serious amount if you count Turning Point USA, Turning Point Action.
00:12:36.000 We have over 165,000 grassroots donors, very blessed.
00:12:39.000 So I know a little bit about this space, about what it's like to allocate expenditures.
00:12:45.000 40% of all the money spent by the Republican National Committee was spent on fundraising.
00:12:51.000 40%.
00:12:52.000 So if you give a dollar to the RNC, if you give a dollar to the GOP, 40 cents on the dollar is going to go spend to, is being spent to raise more money.
00:13:02.000 And so the RNC's response is: well, the RNC has raised record amounts of money.
00:13:07.000 Well, they've raised record amounts of money because they're spending all your money and raising more money.
00:13:12.000 It's that they spend money on new solicitations, buying new lists, and that's part of their response.
00:13:18.000 But if anyone in the audience, please email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:13:24.000 What is the argument for spending $700,000 on floral arrangements?
00:13:31.000 Somebody said, well, Charlie, it's for donors that passed away.
00:13:35.000 Okay, that's not the best spent.
00:13:37.000 I'll be honest, that's not the best money spent by the RNC.
00:13:40.000 That $700,000 could be spent on data that could be spent on critical infrastructure in the States.
00:13:46.000 That's not the best money spent.
00:13:48.000 I'm not saying you shouldn't honor a person that passes away, but $700,000 on flowers?
00:13:53.000 Okay, so you might say, well, what do the Democrats spend?
00:13:58.000 The Democrat National Committee only spent $1,000 on flowers.
00:14:04.000 So this is just the election cycle.
00:14:06.000 The RNC spent $321,000 on flowers, and the Democrats spent $1,000 on flowers.
00:14:15.000 The Democrats spent $1.5 million at the Democrat National Committee on donor gifts, $1.5 million on donor gifts.
00:14:25.000 And the Republicans spent $17 million on donor gifts.
00:14:31.000 I'm telling you right now, we would not put up with any of this at Turning Point, not even close.
00:14:37.000 We hawk every single expenditure.
00:14:39.000 40% of all dollars spent on new donors and new fundraising.
00:14:44.000 And then there's all these expenditures on clothes.
00:14:48.000 By the way, I asked our team what our number is.
00:14:50.000 At Turning Point, we spend between 4% to 6% on fundraising, 4% to 6%, which is way below the average.
00:14:58.000 A reasonable average is like 8% to 10%.
00:15:00.000 You get near 12%.
00:15:01.000 You're a little bit shaky.
00:15:02.000 We're near 4% to 6% at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action.
00:15:06.000 We hawk it.
00:15:07.000 Now, mind you, it's a little different.
00:15:09.000 We're able to accept unlimited gifts, meaning that we can accept donations larger than $750,000.
00:15:16.000 We don't have a lot of donors like that.
00:15:18.000 We have a couple.
00:15:19.000 The RNC is not allowed to, but that's only a more, that's another argument for the RNC to be careful with their money.
00:15:33.000 Don Bulldick spent $4 million in his entire campaign.
00:15:36.000 Imagine if one fourth of that, of he had that $17 million in mementos.
00:15:42.000 So instead of giving money to the RNC, I'm sorry, the RNC giving $17 million in donor gifts.
00:15:48.000 And by the way, I know the donor community pretty well.
00:15:50.000 They don't want these trinkets.
00:15:52.000 They think it's a waste of time.
00:15:54.000 Maybe a thing here or there, a memorable pin.
00:15:57.000 We do that every so often at turning point, but not $17 million worth.
00:16:01.000 You should have told the White House, pay for it yourself or don't give it out.
00:16:06.000 There's more expenditures here.
00:16:07.000 $100,000 on clothes?
00:16:10.000 I don't even know that's how that's legal.
00:16:12.000 I mean, I know this.
00:16:13.000 101, you're not allowed to expense clothes.
00:16:15.000 It doesn't happen.
00:16:16.000 I pay for it myself.
00:16:17.000 Another $100,000 in makeup and hair and makeup services and dry cleaning expenses.
00:16:23.000 And so then the RNC says you're sexist.
00:16:26.000 This is their response.
00:16:27.000 They say you're sexist for saying that you can't say that you shouldn't spend $100,000 on hair and makeup and wardrobe.
00:16:35.000 But here's the thing.
00:16:35.000 Anyone who knows that if you do cable television, which I've done, what, Andrew, probably 600, 700 fox hits in the last decade.
00:16:43.000 I think that's, I think that's fair.
00:16:45.000 Probably six or seven hundred fox.
00:16:46.000 Okay, Andrew, I think it's more.
00:16:47.000 Probably 800 fox hits.
00:16:49.000 90% of the time, the station that you're going on will pay for your hair and makeup.
00:16:55.000 I have never had to pay for my own hair and makeup.
00:16:58.000 And they say, well, it's sexist because they're women and they need it.
00:17:01.000 You know, that's what they say, that Rana needs it and you can't criticize it.
00:17:06.000 I think that's an extraordinary expenditure.
00:17:08.000 I think $100,000 in hair and makeup and dry cleaning is not the best use of your money.
00:17:14.000 And I'm not, the private jet thing, I'm going to say, let's just put that aside.
00:17:17.000 If you're productive and you're doing lots of events, the private jet thing, let's just disqualify that from the conversation.
00:17:24.000 Okay.
00:17:24.000 Now, $1.3 million on limousine and chauffeur services.
00:17:29.000 There is so much misallocation of money here.
00:17:32.000 And guess what?
00:17:33.000 The DNC, the Democrats, they're much more careful with their money.
00:17:37.000 What are your thoughts?
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00:19:46.000 Okay, so we got actually our numbers.
00:19:47.000 I asked our team, I said, what do we spend at Turning Point?
00:19:50.000 You know, and look, we've been very blessed, over 130,000 donors, 145,000 donors.
00:19:55.000 So last year we reported at Turning Point USA, we raised $55.2 million in total revenue, and we spent $3.1 million in fundraising expenses.
00:20:06.000 So that's nonprofit, that's mailings, that's text messages, that's emails, that's donor events.
00:20:13.000 So at Turning Point USA, that's a 6%.
00:20:17.000 So we spent 6% on fundraising expenses.
00:20:21.000 And the RNC spent 40% on fundraising expenses.
00:20:26.000 By the way, if you want to contact your RNC member and ask them why they are wasting your money with $17 million on donor mementos and $700,000 on flowers, you guys can contact your RNC member at hireharmeat.com.
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00:20:50.000 Joining us now is Stephen Miller, a great patriot.
00:20:53.000 There's a new story out in the Washington Post, how a Trump-allied group fighting anti-white bigotry beat Biden in court.
00:21:00.000 Stephen, welcome back to the program.
00:21:02.000 Great to be here.
00:21:03.000 Thank you so much.
00:21:04.000 So Stephen, tell us, how did you, and you're the founder of America First Legal, how did you beat Biden in the court with his blatant and naked anti-white beliefs and views?
00:21:14.000 Well, it's quite simple, really.
00:21:16.000 Federal civil rights law is as unambiguous as it gets.
00:21:19.000 Racial discrimination is patently illegal, particularly, of course, when carried out by the federal government.
00:21:26.000 And that's true in any context, no matter who you're discriminating against.
00:21:30.000 And for years, and this is something we've talked about before, under the guise of equity, the left has been pushing formalized racial discrimination against both white people as well as a few other ethnic groups, Indians, Asians, Jews, et cetera.
00:21:47.000 And all of that is, of course, completely illegal.
00:21:50.000 Whether you're talking about admissions to universities, whether you're talking about eligibility for grant money, whether you're talking about eligibility for federal benefits, all of that in any context is illegal.
00:22:04.000 And so we sued the Biden administration for some of these very bigoted policies.
00:22:10.000 Yes, they are.
00:22:11.000 Yes.
00:22:12.000 And we also have ongoing lawsuits in other contexts over the exact same thing.
00:22:17.000 So we have sued Amazon over racial discrimination, in which if you are a Caucasian Amazon driver, you're not eligible for the same benefits as drivers who have other skin color.
00:22:30.000 We've also sued Texas A ⁇ M University for racial discrimination in the hiring of professors.
00:22:37.000 So this is an area where we are very active and very engaged in order to preserve equal justice for all in America.
00:22:44.000 And I would just say to all of your viewers and all of your listeners that if you see something, say something.
00:22:51.000 Contact us at aflegal.org slash equality, aflegal.org slash equality.
00:22:59.000 That's our portal for any complaints about racial discrimination.
00:23:03.000 And if you have a valid case, if there's something that is legally actionable, then we will be in a position to evaluate that and possibly provide pro bono legal representation.
00:23:12.000 Yeah, I just think you guys are doing such wonderful work.
00:23:15.000 And America First Legal is one of the most important and powerful organizations.
00:23:20.000 You guys are really moving the dial.
00:23:21.000 By the way, you guys can, if you're plaintiffs, you can go to aflegal.org slash hotline and put TPUSA in the subject line.
00:23:31.000 And we're really...
00:23:33.000 Yes, that's another, yes, that's another very important thing.
00:23:35.000 I'm glad you mentioned that.
00:23:37.000 So yes, we are partnering with TPUSA.
00:23:40.000 So do exactly what Charlie just said.
00:23:42.000 Go to aflegal.org slash hotline and put TPUSA in the subject.
00:23:48.000 And then we will be able to flag that as being part of this partnership and be able to get to it right away and be able to look at whatever that legal complaint is.
00:23:56.000 But if you're a college student right now, any internship, any fellowship, any academic program, any corporate program that has any kind of discrimination on the basis of sex, so for example, favoritism to LGBTQI groups, to use their terminology, or favoritism based on race.
00:24:17.000 That's all illegal.
00:24:18.000 Let us know and we can file lawsuits as appropriate.
00:24:24.000 I think that's so incredibly important.
00:24:25.000 And so I just want to talk about the border here, Stephen.
00:24:28.000 I mean, can you just give our audience a little bit of a window into what's happening on the southern border, the rescinding of Title 42, which in your to give you credit, you were kind of one of the architects, is that fair to say, Stephen, of that policy, if I remember correctly?
00:24:48.000 Yeah, I was one of the individuals who both raised the need for this as well as was responsible for implementing it.
00:24:59.000 Yeah, so tell us what it is and how dangerous it is that it's now been rescinded or repealed.
00:25:04.000 Yes, so Title 42 was an authority that was implemented by President Trump on the advice and guidance of the Centers for Disease Control in 2020.
00:25:16.000 And basically, it's a public health authority that gives the executive branch fleet authority to prohibit the entry of any foreign national if there's any concern about the spread of disease or communicable illness in the United States.
00:25:32.000 And again, that's in the sole discretion of the executive branch.
00:25:36.000 So it doesn't say that it has to be a particular threshold of disease or particular kind of disease.
00:25:42.000 It's a very broad authority.
00:25:43.000 And obviously, we've known for many, many years that the southern border is a vector for the spread of illness.
00:25:49.000 You know, we know we've all heard the stories about measles, smallpox, tuberculosis, scabies, not to mention the flu.
00:25:58.000 You know, none of us wants to get the flu.
00:26:02.000 None of us wants our children to get the flu.
00:26:03.000 Nobody likes the flu.
00:26:04.000 There's no reason why to take something that's very elemental that any of us should have more flu because there's an open border.
00:26:10.000 Like the amount of flu we have is all the flu that we need.
00:26:13.000 Nobody needs more flu coming through the southern border with the very unsanitary conditions associated with mass illegal migration.
00:26:20.000 So all of that, all of it qualifies.
00:26:22.000 Now you add on top of that, of course, COVID-19.
00:26:25.000 And you have more than a sufficient legal basis to deny the entry of anybody, which means no asylum, no refugee status, no ability to fight your deportation.
00:26:36.000 So it's a blanket authority that circumvents every other authority to say that you can't come in, period.
00:26:45.000 No exceptions.
00:26:46.000 And so we implemented that in 2020.
00:26:49.000 And the Biden administration, when they came into office, immediately carved out very large populations from Title 42.
00:26:57.000 Basically, all unaccompanied minors, which is the reason why we had record-setting numbers of 17 and younger illegal immigrants traveling alone.
00:27:09.000 They're obviously not smuggled here alone, but they're without an adult companion arriving over the last two years, numbers nobody's ever seen before.
00:27:16.000 And then they carved out almost all illegal immigrant families.
00:27:19.000 Then they started carving out additional nationalities.
00:27:23.000 So pretty much anybody beyond Central America was, in most cases, categorically exempt from Title 42.
00:27:29.000 So for basically most of two years, Title 42 has been used for a very limited subset of people, but still used for that remaining subset of illegal immigrants.
00:27:40.000 The last piece of that is going to fall away in a matter of days because the Biden administration has been trying to end it.
00:27:47.000 And don't be confused.
00:27:48.000 This is not something the court is forcing them to do.
00:27:50.000 They tried to end it before the courts ever got involved.
00:27:54.000 They sent the message, we want this thing gone.
00:27:56.000 We want it out of this.
00:27:57.000 They're not going to the Supreme Court asking for an emergency appeal.
00:28:01.000 This is deliberate.
00:28:02.000 This is planned.
00:28:03.000 The objective has been to find a way to end Title 42, and that's what's happening.
00:28:08.000 And so states have sued to try to keep it online, but it looks like they're going to be unsuccessful.
00:28:13.000 Yeah.
00:28:13.000 And it looks like it's going to go away.
00:28:15.000 I can speak a little bit more candidly than you can, Stephen.
00:28:18.000 This is a loophole, and we should totally support the loophole.
00:28:22.000 I mean, I'll just be very honest, right?
00:28:24.000 I know that you, as a lawyer, have to make the precise arguments, but we are in crisis.
00:28:29.000 We are being invaded by a foreign power.
00:28:31.000 And look, under Title 42, we've expelled successfully 2.5 million people, or at least migrants 2.5 million times, because that actually isn't the same thing, because we repel and expel the same person sometimes, three, four, five, six times.
00:28:46.000 But, you know, the accusation is people say, well, it's a loophole.
00:28:50.000 Of course, it's a loophole.
00:28:51.000 It's a legal one, and it stands up against muster, against criticism.
00:28:56.000 But we do not have many tools at our disposal, right, Stephen, to secure our country.
00:29:02.000 There's several tools, and I should clarify that I manage lawyers for a living, but myself am not a lawyer.
00:29:09.000 Okay, so you can talk as candidly as you want then.
00:29:13.000 But what I can say is that it is a blanket delegation of authority to the executive branch.
00:29:20.000 Just like there's a blanket delegation of authority that authorized the travel ban, which bring up another subject for another day that, of course, Biden rescinded immediately upon entering office.
00:29:32.000 But the point of which is to say that to answer your original question, with this gone, expect total pandemonium.
00:29:38.000 Now, we already have total pandemonium.
00:29:41.000 So basically, imagine total pandemonium and then multiply that by orders of magnitude.
00:29:47.000 It will be, and it will, and it is becoming, scenes from a failed state playing out on our southern border.
00:29:56.000 Masses and masses of people in makeshift camps lining up, waiting for entry and resettlement into the United States.
00:30:03.000 Now, there's three core authorities, all of which we had fully online in 2020, that can keep illegal aliens out of the country and defeat the legal machinery that the activists left and the courts have created over the last few generations.
00:30:17.000 So, in other words, there's all these defenses legal aliens can raise to stay in the country.
00:30:22.000 They're all very preposterous and very ludicrous and very fraudulent that have been created by a combination of the ACLU and similar organizations and then the judges who certify this nonsense and the bureaucracy that has internalized it.
00:30:36.000 And those three big authorities are one, remain in Mexico, which obviously everyone is familiar with.
00:30:45.000 The second is safe third agreements, which basically means that you say to an illegal immigrant, you have two options.
00:30:52.000 You can go home or you can go to an alternate third nation.
00:30:55.000 And then Title 42, which we've discussed, which is blanket removal authority.
00:31:00.000 And so all three of those tools have been revoked and have been rescinded, or in the case of L42, is being terminated by the Biden administration.
00:31:10.000 And so what it will mean is that there will be no way for the Biden administration, even though they wanted to, to remove these evil immigrants, but of course they don't want to because it's why they rescinded the authorities in the first place.
00:31:19.000 So what you're going to be seeing is effectively populations the size of whole countries being continuously resettled in the United States.
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00:32:32.000 So let me play a piece of tape here.
00:32:33.000 Look, what's happening on the border is just so terrible.
00:32:37.000 And by the way, MSNBC is starting to report on it.
00:32:39.000 I'm curious to find out why and get Stephen's take on that.
00:32:44.000 Let's go to Cut 93, please.
00:32:47.000 The horror stories that people face just when they get to Mexico and trying to get to the U.S., they're being kidnapped, starved, raped, extorted.
00:32:55.000 That's just in Mexico.
00:32:57.000 I'm just wondering, where is the urgency here?
00:32:59.000 Where is the outrage that men, women, and children are going through hell?
00:33:05.000 And it seems as though, unless there's some political aspect to this, there's no outrage.
00:33:11.000 There's no focus.
00:33:13.000 No, this is a planned invasion of the country.
00:33:15.000 Stephen, why is MSNBC caring all of a sudden?
00:33:18.000 Well, I think a big factor here is the election is over.
00:33:21.000 And so there was no universe where they were going to give this any kind of attention before the election.
00:33:26.000 And so I think this is a phenomenon we've seen a lot.
00:33:28.000 So I think it probably fits pretty well into that bucket, which is it's the equivalent of making some sort of admission or concession for historical purposes to say, oh, look, we covered it.
00:33:37.000 See, look, we checked this box.
00:33:39.000 But waiting to do that to the point at which it will have the least useful political impact for those who care about border security.
00:33:46.000 And I think that's a lot of what's going on here.
00:33:48.000 And you can expect that coverage to disappear at any point in time when it becomes convenient for it to disappear.
00:33:54.000 I want to pick up on someone that the speaker was talking about, which is that the horrors that you're seeing at the border, the rape, the death, the suffering, the starvation, the beatings, when you suspend law enforcement, the Biden administration has done along a massive stretch of territory.
00:34:18.000 When you push out the rule of law, when you say that this is a land without law, a land without law enforcement, a land without rules, you invite into that space, of course, the reign of criminal organizations and syndicates.
00:34:32.000 You can imagine, if you did this in just a city, for example, if you said, take any city, you know, you said, oh, in the city of St. Louis, hereby effective immediately, police are not allowed to arrest anybody for anything.
00:34:44.000 All police can do is transport criminals to the crime scene.
00:34:48.000 But how long until St. Louis became something out of a horribly dystopian sci-fi novel that seemed too horrible and too frightening to think it'd ever be true.
00:34:59.000 Now multiply that across the entire 2,000-mile border where you have some of the most sophisticated, ruthless, and murderous criminal organizations on planet Earth operating.
00:35:08.000 That's what Biden has done and is doing.
00:35:10.000 It's sinister.
00:35:12.000 It's malicious.
00:35:13.000 It's wicked.
00:35:14.000 And those who are aiding and abetting it in Washington, D.C. are complicit in that evil.
00:35:20.000 And so that really brings us to, I think, a very important conversation, which is what now?
00:35:24.000 We've diagnosed the problem and its causes and explained how planned and deliberate it all is.
00:35:29.000 The most important thing that we can possibly do right now, and I will acknowledge that I stand here today, it is unlikely we will be successful based on what I'm hearing and seeing, but it is to get 41 Republicans to defeat a long-term government funding bill before Christmas.
00:35:47.000 So government funding is going to expire.
00:35:50.000 They're probably going to do a stopgap funding bill.
00:35:52.000 But bottom line is that they're going to try and pass a year-long funding bill, a so-called omnibus, before Christmas in late December.
00:36:01.000 That will eliminate any major leverage point for the new House to force border security for effectively a year from today, basically at the end of next September, the beginning of October.
00:36:16.000 And so that will mean millions and millions and millions more legal immigrants will come through with very limited opportunities for the House to force any kind of action on it.
00:36:25.000 I mean, yes, you can and must obviously impeach my orchest, and you have to hold hearings and you have to hold investigations and you have to make criminal referrals.
00:36:33.000 But the most effective forcing function would be to use the funding bill and attach to it an ironclad prohibition on Biden using any government funds to release any legal immigrants into the United States.
00:36:47.000 And that is the policy solution.
00:36:50.000 It's not some complicated immigration reform that nobody can understand and that the bureaucracy will convert into amnesty and resettlement.
00:36:59.000 It is a very straightforward prohibition that says that none of the funds in this or any other act can be used to release any illegal alien into the United States.
00:37:10.000 And of course, if any government official violates that prohibition, then they're committing a very straightforward criminal violation.
00:37:17.000 Keep up the great work, Stephen.
00:37:18.000 What's happening on the southern border is a crime against humanity.
00:37:22.000 And this is why they had to sabotage Terry Lake.
00:37:26.000 This is why they had to ambush her the way they did.
00:37:28.000 Stephen, thanks so much.
00:37:29.000 Thank you.
00:37:32.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:37:34.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:37:37.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.
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