The Charlie Kirk Show - How the Small Things Become the Big Things — Charlie Kirk LIVE from Freedom Square

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, happy Sunday.

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00:00:39.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:41.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:00:43.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:46.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:50.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:51.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:52.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:00:54.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:00.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:09.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:12.000 I just want to thank, first of all, all of you that send me your warm notes of encouragement that you're praying for us and praying for me.

00:01:20.000 It's, you know, it's a battle out there, and there's definitely some spiritual warfare going on.

00:01:24.000 Do you feel that too?

00:01:26.000 Now, this is not just in the material.

00:01:28.000 And so I want to thank you guys for all of that.

00:01:30.000 And it just came to me today.

00:01:31.000 I was talking to my very good friend, Pastor Greg, who's in from a great church from California, of what to share.

00:01:38.000 And it's actually, we have a really good message to share tonight, one of optimism and hope and one of positivity.

00:01:43.000 And if you're like me, you could use some of that right now, especially what's going on in the world and in our country.

00:01:49.000 So there's one word I really want to focus on tonight, and it's the word momentum.

00:01:54.000 So what is momentum?

00:01:56.000 Well, momentum, for those of you that have built, you know, Pastor Barnett, you know all about momentum.

00:02:00.000 Once you hit that curve, things just start to happen.

00:02:03.000 The question is, how do we get to that place of momentum?

00:02:05.000 You guys know this when you have a sports team.

00:02:07.000 Any of you guys, Chicago Bulls fans, oh, I'm sorry about that.

00:02:10.000 Michael Jordan beat the Phoenix Suns with, sorry about that.

00:02:14.000 I'm a big Bulls fan, by the way.

00:02:15.000 When you get momentum, it's like a team plays at another level.

00:02:18.000 Now, I don't watch professional sports anymore, so you guys could tell me who's doing well.

00:02:21.000 No, I really don't.

00:02:22.000 I heard LeBron lost.

00:02:23.000 That's all I cared about.

00:02:25.000 And so, so for that, I want to, I guess it was Phoenix.

00:02:32.000 Was it?

00:02:33.000 Yeah, I used to love sports, but then everyone can make their own decision.

00:02:37.000 Have a nice time.

00:02:39.000 I wish you well.

00:02:40.000 And, but you guys know in sports, when you get momentum, there's nothing else like it.

00:02:45.000 There's a lot of golfers out there.

00:02:46.000 I know the Barnetts love golf.

00:02:47.000 When you get momentum when you're a golfer, you could have one week can change your golf career forever.

00:02:53.000 Jordan Speet had one week that changed his entire golf career.

00:02:57.000 So we need to ask ourselves when we're trying to reclaim the country for Christ, what is momentum and how do we get momentum?

00:03:05.000 And so first, let's just get to the physics definition of momentum.

00:03:09.000 Momentum is very, and Newton discovered this.

00:03:12.000 He didn't invent it.

00:03:13.000 Force equals mass times acceleration.

00:03:15.000 How big is something?

00:03:16.000 How fast is it going?

00:03:18.000 And when we feel as if we don't have momentum, we feel as if there's not enough or not going fast enough.

00:03:23.000 And if you're like me since January, especially, feels like we've been a little bit on defense, a little bit on the heels, a little bit like we've got no momentum.

00:03:32.000 We're losing ground.

00:03:33.000 It seems as if our values, our ideas are always under attack.

00:03:37.000 And it seems like the mass is decreasing and any movement is going backwards.

00:03:42.000 But in the last couple of days, I've felt actually something different.

00:03:45.000 A certain senator from West Virginia came out and he said, look, I might be able to negotiate on a couple of things, but HR1 and HR5 and adding DC and Puerto Rico estates and mail-in ballots, that's not going to happen.

00:03:57.000 We're going to have to work together.

00:03:58.000 And the other senator from this state, who I think is nuttier than a fruitcake, sometimes, Senator Sinema, did the same.

00:04:04.000 And I think she should be thanked for that, quite honestly.

00:04:06.000 I really do.

00:04:08.000 And so all of a sudden, that threw a boomerang and things, and they got the other side, got very angry about that.

00:04:16.000 And all of a sudden, people are stopping me in airports and they're stopping me when I'm traveling.

00:04:20.000 And they're saying, you know what, Charlie?

00:04:22.000 I'm showing up to school board meetings.

00:04:23.000 I'm going to start getting more aware and I'm feeling something that's happening.

00:04:26.000 That's all of a sudden, this force equals mass times acceleration.

00:04:30.000 I'm seeing the mass increase and I'm seeing the speed increase ever so slightly.

00:04:34.000 So what does the Bible say about momentum?

00:04:37.000 What does the Bible say about this?

00:04:38.000 And so I went through some of my favorite parts of the Bible and I actually literally just typed in momentum.

00:04:44.000 It's not actually in the Bible, is a word that was actually just created in like 1794.

00:04:50.000 I love finding out where words come from.

00:04:52.000 But there are similar stories about this concept of momentum.

00:04:56.000 So a lesser referenced book of the Bible is the book of Zechariah.

00:05:02.000 And this is, in all fairness, it's not referenced because it's glossed over, but I think it's super important to focus on tonight.

00:05:11.000 And so we, most of you know, the story of the first temple and the second temple.

00:05:15.000 So the first temple was Solomon's temple.

00:05:18.000 It was in all of its splendor.

00:05:19.000 And for those of you that have been in Israel, you could just imagine how beautiful and majestic this was.

00:05:24.000 The son of David built something to the glory of God that was so incredible.

00:05:28.000 But that temple was destroyed and the Jews were sent out into exile.

00:05:33.000 Jews coming from the tribe of Judah, the Hebrews, God's chosen people.

00:05:37.000 Then a secular man, best described as someone who is not part of God's chosen people, Cyrus, as said and was prophesied, came and said, You know what?

00:05:46.000 You can go back to Jerusalem and you can reclaim what is yours.

00:05:50.000 So they get back and they have all this momentum. 0.64

00:05:52.000 They get back to Jerusalem.

00:05:54.000 They're excited, kind of like how we were a couple years ago, right?

00:05:57.000 We were fired up.

00:05:59.000 We had a plan.

00:06:00.000 And then all of a sudden, kind of what happens with big projects, a little bit of cynicism set in.

00:06:06.000 All of a sudden, people started complaining.

00:06:09.000 The bricks are too heavy.

00:06:11.000 What's the big deal?

00:06:12.000 Why do we need to build a temple?

00:06:14.000 Who is this God that you say?

00:06:15.000 And if you look in Zechariah 1, 2, 3, and 4, they're kind of complaining.

00:06:19.000 They're kind of like, you know what?

00:06:21.000 I watched Tucker Carlson.

00:06:23.000 I bought the pillow and the world is not saved.

00:06:26.000 Okay?

00:06:27.000 And by the way, promo code Kirk, if any of you go to mypillow.com.

00:06:32.000 Let me just be very clear.

00:06:34.000 And by the way, buy as many pillows as you can.

00:06:36.000 I'm fully in support of that.

00:06:38.000 But I get it.

00:06:39.000 I'm there with you.

00:06:40.000 It's kind of a little bit of a, hey, I'm not loving this right now.

00:06:45.000 But then all of a sudden, this man of God, Zechariah, and there's over 30 people with that name in the Bible, and historians point this specific prophet as being kind of the hype man.

00:06:55.000 He was the guy that came to Zerebbabel.

00:06:57.000 Say that three times quickly.

00:06:58.000 Zerubbabel, okay.

00:07:00.000 Zerubbabel, who was commissioned alongside Ezra to rebuild the second temple.

00:07:05.000 And so just you understand the significance of the temple.

00:07:08.000 This was considered to be the holy of holies, the place of God.

00:07:12.000 And we, we, now that we have the new covenant, we know that the third temple is really Christ's return here on earth.

00:07:20.000 We know that.

00:07:20.000 We know how the story ends.

00:07:22.000 And so the second temple was very significant.

00:07:26.000 And Zechariah basically comes to the Jewish people and he starts to say, hold on a second. 0.70

00:07:30.000 You guys are complaining.

00:07:31.000 You guys are getting down with yourself.

00:07:33.000 And it's one of the most beautiful pieces of scripture.

00:07:36.000 And I have two different translations for it in English, just for emphasis.

00:07:41.000 And it's Zechariah 4:6 and then 10.

00:07:45.000 And it says, not by might, not by power, but my spirit, says the Lord.

00:07:50.000 Do not despise the day of small things.

00:07:53.000 I'm going to say this differently in a different translation.

00:07:56.000 Do not despise these small beginnings, for the Lord rejoices to see the work begin, to see the plum line in Zarebbabel's hand.

00:08:05.000 You kind of feel like you're in the days of small things.

00:08:08.000 Like, Charlie, what's the difference?

00:08:10.000 Showing up to the school board meeting, that's not going to save the Republic.

00:08:14.000 But Zechariah is like, no, actually, that small thing actually really does make a difference.

00:08:18.000 That one email, that one brick that you're going to put on that second temple actually makes a big difference.

00:08:24.000 The Lord commands us to care about the small things.

00:08:29.000 And it has this cumulative impact.

00:08:31.000 And little did Zeribbabel know.

00:08:33.000 And he was building the very temple that our Savior was going to walk through.

00:08:38.000 Little did he know he was going to fulfill that covenant perfectly so that the Son of God could come and fulfill the promises.

00:08:45.000 Now, that temple was destroyed in about 70 AD by Titus.

00:08:49.000 And that was also prophesied by Jesus himself.

00:08:52.000 And so it really got me thinking that the enemy tries to get in our ears to tell us that the small things don't matter.

00:09:00.000 And by the way, I'm not immune to this.

00:09:02.000 I'm like, does this speech, is this speech really going to move the dial?

00:09:02.000 I'm not.

00:09:05.000 Like, we are in Banger, Maine.

00:09:07.000 No one ever goes to Banger, Maine, okay?

00:09:09.000 I love Ken Graves.

00:09:10.000 He's awesome.

00:09:11.000 But I mean, that is, you know, basically Nova Scotia.

00:09:14.000 And I'm like, what, what is the difference, right?

00:09:17.000 And that's the enemy.

00:09:18.000 That is not of the Lord.

00:09:20.000 And if you're like me, you get bombarded every day.

00:09:23.000 And then what comes from cynicism comes nihilism.

00:09:26.000 Nothing matters.

00:09:27.000 My actions don't matter.

00:09:28.000 It doesn't matter if I lie, steal, or cheat.

00:09:30.000 It doesn't matter if I care, if I do my taxes correctly, because what I do does not have a reflection in the broader world around me.

00:09:38.000 The Lord tells us to never accept cynicism.

00:09:41.000 In fact, the Bible is like the anti-cynical document.

00:09:44.000 It's the most anti-cynical document.

00:09:45.000 If you're like me, I'm sick of all the cynicism in our country right now.

00:09:49.000 I'm sick of people saying it doesn't matter.

00:09:51.000 There is no truth.

00:09:52.000 There is no beauty.

00:09:53.000 It's kind of depressing, isn't it?

00:09:55.000 And so it's now when we're seeing a little bit of momentum, and that's what Zechariah was.

00:09:59.000 He was encouraging momentum.

00:10:01.000 And as we look at that scripture, we know how it ends.

00:10:04.000 And so if momentum is the product of weight or mass times velocity or speed, then a big, heavy debt object could be going really fast, but that's not momentum.

00:10:17.000 And so what we need to understand, or very slow speed, I should say.

00:10:20.000 So the issue that we have here is we need to continue to expand our ranks and look around.

00:10:26.000 This Freedom Square has momentum.

00:10:28.000 And then the question is, what are we going to do about it?

00:10:31.000 And so I want to tell you a miracle in American history.

00:10:34.000 Then we're going to get into Arizona because that's fun, right?

00:10:36.000 Because I always want to get into what we can do, not just come up and just do the Zechariah II thing.

00:10:42.000 Everything's terrible.

00:10:43.000 Everything's bad.

00:10:44.000 The temple's not going to get built.

00:10:45.000 Goodbye.

00:10:46.000 We're not doing that.

00:10:47.000 But for those of you that say, oh, a small thing doesn't really change history, what if I told you a piece of wood this big created America?

00:10:59.000 What if I told you a piece of wood this big changed the course of human history?

00:11:04.000 All of you have heard of Benedict Arnold before.

00:11:06.000 Benedict Arnold was a traitor to the United States.

00:11:09.000 In the Revolutionary War period, we were in a bitter war against the greatest power the world has ever seen, with a navy that was unmatched and ground forces that were well trained and unlimited budget.

00:11:19.000 King George basically declared war on us for sport.

00:11:23.000 He was like, ah, the American colonists, I'm going to prove it to them.

00:11:26.000 And adding insult to injury, Benedict Arnold betrayed the armed forces and he befriended this guy by the name of Major John Andre.

00:11:36.000 He was constantly slipping secrets of troop formations and George Washington was always confused how the British knew that there was going to be one or two moves ahead.

00:11:45.000 He was always like, how do they know what I'm going to do before I do it?

00:11:48.000 It was bothering him.

00:11:50.000 So, Benedict Arnold, similar to someone that we know in the scriptures, decided to sell out America for 20,000 British sterling.

00:11:58.000 Sound familiar?

00:12:00.000 This deal was brokered at West Point, New York.

00:12:02.000 Anyone been to West Point?

00:12:03.000 It's where our United States Military Academy is.

00:12:05.000 It's beautiful.

00:12:06.000 It's right on the shores of the Hudson, but it's not an in-it's a super consequential military base.

00:12:11.000 It's built like a fort because it was a fort.

00:12:13.000 This was the gateway to the American colonial military base.

00:12:17.000 If you could get West Point, the war is over.

00:12:20.000 It would be the equivalent that in America that if you could control the port city right now of Miami or Philadelphia, it's everything.

00:12:27.000 It would be like San Diego on the West Coast where our entire fleet is.

00:12:30.000 So West Point was the whole enchilada.

00:12:32.000 Now, this guy, Benedict Arnold, was very clever.

00:12:35.000 Now, similar to someone who's running our public health department right now in our country, clever people can be the most dangerous.

00:12:42.000 I'll let you fill in which person that is.

00:12:47.000 Be careful of clever people if they are not rooted in truth and ethics.

00:12:51.000 Deceit, arrogance, and treachery.

00:12:54.000 Be very, very careful of those three things.

00:12:58.000 So Benedict Arnold was a serpent undercutting and disobeying his oath.

00:13:03.000 So there was a meeting that was brokered secretly in the middle of the night in West Point, New York.

00:13:08.000 Major John Andre from the British forces came up and he went with Benedict Arnold.

00:13:13.000 He said, Okay, 20,000 shilling it is.

00:13:15.000 Let's get it in writing.

00:13:16.000 Here's a little note to anyone that's deciding to betray your country.

00:13:20.000 Don't do it in writing.

00:13:22.000 Bad idea.

00:13:23.000 Right?

00:13:24.000 That was the first mistake.

00:13:26.000 But as we know in the Bible, if you decide to do acts of treachery, what is done in darkness will be brought to light.

00:13:32.000 So this deal gets brokered, and Major John Andre gets on the ship.

00:13:37.000 He's excited because he just brokered the deal where Benedict Arnold said, I'm going to tell you when to attack West Point and how to attack it at the perfect time.

00:13:45.000 I'm going to distract the force.

00:13:46.000 He sold the whole country down, right?

00:13:49.000 Like the whole vector of our country was sold.

00:13:51.000 So Major John Andre is just kind of going back down to the Hudson, back to the British Navy, and we didn't even have a Navy, right?

00:13:57.000 I mean, we were just kind of minute men and minute women, and we were just put together, we were just held together.

00:14:03.000 We talked about this at last Freedom Square by a belief in a higher power and we wanted to govern ourselves.

00:14:09.000 That was our secret weapon.

00:14:10.000 It was our resilience and our grit and our capacity to endure whatever they threw at us.

00:14:15.000 So Major John Andre, he's really excited.

00:14:18.000 He's going down the Hudson River and he's got Benedict Arnold's papers in his jacket.

00:14:23.000 And by the way, everything I'm telling you right here is 100% verified by historian after historian.

00:14:29.000 And every child in America should learn this story.

00:14:32.000 So Major John Andre has Benedict Arnold concession papers, right?

00:14:36.000 And a couple of American colonialists have a cannon right on the Hudson River.

00:14:40.000 They're like, oh, British ship.

00:14:41.000 They shoot a cannon at the boat.

00:14:43.000 It does very little to no damage to this ship.

00:14:46.000 But strangely and bizarrely, it hits the wood in a certain way where a splinter of wood this big pops up and goes up into the nose of Major John Andre.

00:15:00.000 So Major John Andre gets really annoyed and irritated and he's like, you know what?

00:15:04.000 Just turn the boat around.

00:15:06.000 I can't focus.

00:15:07.000 I can't man the ship.

00:15:09.000 Turn this around so I can get this fixed or you can find another person.

00:15:12.000 And no one really knows the significance of the documents he has right there in his jacket.

00:15:18.000 They go back, they get intercepted by three American minutemen.

00:15:23.000 And all of a sudden they say, they pat him down and they get all the papers and they look at this and they say, oh my goodness.

00:15:29.000 And a man by the name of Major Benjamin Talmadge, who is one of George Washington's secret spies, a man who is loyal and committed to the truth, said, I will take that.

00:15:41.000 He ran as fast as he could, got on horseback and rode through the night, nearly killed his horse to General Washington.

00:15:48.000 Said, this is how they know what we're doing before we do it.

00:15:51.000 And immediately, George Washington said, Ah, I see.

00:15:55.000 Benedict Arnold fled and this is whole drama, but the trust of Benedict Arnold was broken.

00:16:00.000 And you say, okay, but what's the significance?

00:16:02.000 Well, let's think back to that story.

00:16:04.000 If the cannonball would have destroyed the ship, everyone would have cheered, but they just would have sent another ship to go have Benedict Arnold sell us down the only a piece of wood this big that could have annoyed a sociopath by the name of Major John Andre to turn around to then go to shore and have three American minutemen then get in the custody to get the papers that show irrefutably that Benedict Arnold was selling our troops.

00:16:29.000 Only that could have happened.

00:16:31.000 So be that piece of wood, will you please?

00:16:35.000 Will you go be that one little piece of action?

00:16:37.000 Because the small things are the big things and that changed the course of the entire American Revolution.

00:16:43.000 From that point forward, George Washington only kept his dearest friends and he had checks and balances against everyone around him.

00:16:49.000 All of a sudden, the American troops had a shot of energy and the British troops had a little bit of despair.

00:16:54.000 It changed the course of history nearly permanently.

00:16:57.000 And I truly believe it was a miracle in the hand of God.

00:17:00.000 I believe what was being done in darkness for selling out our country for lies and deceit and for tyrannical control was done for the reason of trying to preserve power.

00:17:12.000 The small things are the big things, everybody.

00:17:14.000 The little things have big, big impact.

00:17:17.000 And a piece of wood that big very well could have won the American Revolution and with it all the freedom and liberty that we enjoy today.

00:17:25.000 The small things are the big things.

00:17:27.000 Okay, let's get to what's happening now in Arizona.

00:17:31.000 So a lot has happened since our last meeting.

00:17:34.000 And I first just want to thank all of you that have had a recommitted energy and focus on school boards in general.

00:17:41.000 So I'm going to do a couple school board updates here, things that are happening, trends, what's wrong with them.

00:17:46.000 Then we're going to get to some statewide stuff.

00:17:48.000 And then we'll do some questions, which we really, really enjoy.

00:17:52.000 So many of you are aware of what's been happening in the Scottsdale Unified School District.

00:17:58.000 And yeah, so quite a lot's been happening.

00:18:02.000 So they had a meeting in late April and they canceled the meeting because they said there was a bunch of agitators there about mask policy and whatever it is.

00:18:12.000 I just want to say one thing.

00:18:14.000 When you do go to these meetings, if you go, please embody Christ in all things that you do.

00:18:18.000 Don't give them a reason to try to ever try and accuse you of anything that's not totally there.

00:18:25.000 With that being said, whatever you're doing in Scottsdale is working.

00:18:29.000 And so I think we're going to see some very, very big reversals there sometime soon.

00:18:35.000 You also might be aware what's happening in the Chandler Unified School District.

00:18:39.000 We have some Chandler people here.

00:18:42.000 Chandler is, let's say, entertaining something very, very dangerous right now.

00:18:46.000 Now, just as some background, maybe this is your first Freedom Square.

00:18:49.000 I believe that the most important focus for us in Arizona right now has to happen in school boards.

00:18:55.000 I really do.

00:18:56.000 I think that we have to recommit ourselves to knowing what our children are being taught, where is it coming from, because a country, a nation, and a people cannot continue to flourish if we are not able to pass down our proven traditions and our customs to the next generation.

00:19:11.000 And look, I'll be honest, I think that we've been taken advantage of.

00:19:16.000 I think that we gave trust and then we kind of just said, you know what, I trust you to do this.

00:19:21.000 And we ran our lives.

00:19:22.000 We built churches, we built businesses, we raised our kids.

00:19:25.000 Next thing you know, you turn around in a school board, they're like, whoa, they're teaching what exactly.

00:19:30.000 Now, we went through the Litchfield, Arizona example last time.

00:19:34.000 That is still very much in play.

00:19:36.000 And if any of you live in Litchfield, Arizona and want to live around there, you have to keep that.

00:19:41.000 I have to say, because of what we've done here, they released a statement that they're reconsidering their equity critical race theory curriculum. 0.64

00:19:49.000 So, God bless you guys for that.

00:19:50.000 It's a very big deal.

00:19:54.000 Now, just as a refresher before I get into Chandler, because it's really important.

00:19:59.000 This is not just Chandler.

00:20:00.000 I'm going to go through a couple other examples.

00:20:01.000 And I met with some amazing teachers previously: is that what exactly is it that we find to be so troubling about this new trend?

00:20:11.000 And so, we went into this last time, but it's worthy of repetition, which is there is a movement right now in the country to try to implement critical race theory into our schools.

00:20:23.000 And critical race theory comes from this idea of critical theory.

00:20:27.000 It was born out of the Frankfurt School in Germany, and it's by a guy by the name of Herbert Marcuse and a woman by the name of Angela Davis, who is still alive.

00:20:36.000 Angela Davis is a member of the American Communist Party, and critical theory, especially critical race theory, is at direct odds with the teachings of the Bible and the traditions of Western civilization.

00:20:48.000 It cares about skin color.

00:20:50.000 It's teaching your children and our children to believe that skin color is really, really important. 0.75

00:20:56.000 I quite honestly couldn't care less about skin color.

00:20:58.000 I care about your soul, your spirit, your character, and your actions. 0.99

00:21:02.000 I think your skin color is completely and totally irrelevant. 1.00

00:21:08.000 It also, by definition, tries to restrict dialogue and freedom of speech. 0.91

00:21:13.000 They teach young children that freedom of speech and dialogue is a heteronormative cis-gender colonialist practice. 0.96

00:21:22.000 Now, if that sounds like a pile of rubbish, you are right. 0.98

00:21:25.000 It is.

00:21:26.000 And in some ways, they divide the world overly plainly and simply into two different categories.

00:21:32.000 And the kind of the archbishop of critical race theory is a guy by the name of Ibram X. Kendi.

00:21:38.000 I've talked quite a lot about him, and he has a book called How to Be an Anti-Racist.

00:21:43.000 He believes the world can be divided into racist and anti-racist.

00:21:48.000 In a bizarre turn of events, he believes that by focusing on skin color, we'll make the world in some way less racist.

00:21:56.000 He believes that current discrimination is necessary to atone for previous discrimination.

00:22:01.000 That is an exact quote.

00:22:03.000 Now, instead of emphasizing action, trying to understand how every person is made in the image of God, critical theory, going back to Herbert Marcuse, believes that everything is a power struggle.

00:22:17.000 That everything, without whether you realize it or not, is one group fighting another group.

00:22:21.000 We as Christians find this to be quite honestly reprehensible.

00:22:25.000 We find that every person at birth is, of course, broken by nature and needs a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

00:22:32.000 That you might be part of a group of your choosing.

00:22:35.000 You might be part of some group, but the most important group that you should be part of is called the kingdom of heaven group.

00:22:40.000 That's the group that we care about the most.

00:22:43.000 And that tradition that was passed down through Western culture allowed this idea of individual rights to really be created.

00:22:51.000 You have to understand before America, this idea of ancestral guilt, that you must atone for what your great-grandfather did was normal.

00:23:01.000 So if I told you right now that all of a sudden you must do something that you didn't do, but someone that you were related to did, you'd say, no, that's not me.

00:23:08.000 I make my own choices and my own action.

00:23:10.000 Now, we know this in how we explain salvation to young people.

00:23:15.000 We say this in a lot of youth groups.

00:23:17.000 We say, hey, you need to, your parents can't save you.

00:23:20.000 You got to come in your own relationship with Christ.

00:23:22.000 Now, that idea that you will be individually held accountable is a uniquely Christian idea that has been passed down either consciously or subconsciously in our American traditions, customs, and in the rule of law.

00:23:34.000 So here's how it would work. 0.92

00:23:35.000 Let's say you kind of have an errant brother.

00:23:38.000 The brother decides to go do a bunch of, let's just say, not so good things on a Saturday evening.

00:23:43.000 Should we administer justice by saying anyone who's related to this brother must now go to prison for arson and theft?

00:23:49.000 Of course not.

00:23:50.000 We'd say, that's my brother.

00:23:51.000 I might be related to him, but that's not me.

00:23:54.000 That's pretty obvious.

00:23:56.000 But the way that critical race theory teaches, oh, no, no, you look like that person, therefore, you must be held accountable with that person.

00:24:03.000 And anyone who's grown up in the West, as we have, we know this to be rather so obvious, sloppy, dangerous, and dare I say, unethical and evil.

00:24:12.000 So this is what's being pushed.

00:24:14.000 And I do want to say, but I think some people that are pushing it, I'm offering an olive branch here.

00:24:19.000 I think some of them actually want to make the world a better place.

00:24:22.000 Some of them.

00:24:23.000 And I think that some of them have a misunderstanding, I think, of actually what's happening in the country.

00:24:28.000 And I think some of them have an urge to want to be part of something bigger than themselves.

00:24:32.000 I think some of them have a desire to try to be part of the next major movement.

00:24:37.000 Now, I have a theory, and I think you would agree with it.

00:24:41.000 If social media didn't exist, a lot of these people would never do this stuff, okay?

00:24:45.000 If you couldn't post about this publicly to your friends, that's just a guess.

00:24:49.000 I'm just saying.

00:24:50.000 Now, with that being said, of course, there are issues and problems that we should address.

00:24:54.000 Of course, there are things that we should try to improve in our country.

00:24:57.000 But we know the way that we can improve conditions of all people, regardless of your skin color, your background, no matter what it is.

00:25:04.000 It's very simple.

00:25:05.000 The thing that's truly been destroyed in our country is the nuclear family in our country, is being able to be raised with a mother and a father. 0.85

00:25:12.000 So I'll prove it to you. 0.79

00:25:14.000 If a child hears 3,000 words or less every single day, they are far more likely to go to prison, commit crimes, or join a gang.

00:25:22.000 If they hear 3,000 words or more, higher, more vocabulary, more likely to have higher cognitive function, they're more likely to be able to go to college and not commit crimes.

00:25:31.000 Now, you ask yourself, is a child more likely or less likely to hear more words if they have a mother or father around?

00:25:37.000 It's a very simple question. 0.71

00:25:39.000 And we know, according to the data, that a child that is, a white child that is raised by a single mother, and God bless our single mothers, by the way, it's an afana, we should support them in every way, is less likely to succeed, not because of a single mother, just because of the pressure and the weight of raising a child than a black child that is raised by a mother and a father. 0.68

00:25:59.000 That single statistic is the most universal and colorblind statistic.

00:26:04.000 But instead, the emphasis on this conversation that is unfortunately being entertained in Chandler Unified School District, amongst many others, is one that will reverse everything that I said.

00:26:16.000 And this is where I think we have to continue to stand up clearly and boldly and understand where these ideas come from.

00:26:22.000 You know, I remember 10 years ago, 10 years ago, when we used to say, you know what, if you cared about skin color, you're kind of engaging in racism.

00:26:32.000 And I think that we should actually just repeat what Martin Luther King Jr. said, which is I dream of a day where we care about the content of someone's character, not the color of your skin.

00:26:42.000 It's a very basic American principle.

00:26:44.000 So in Chandler, they're entertaining this.

00:26:52.000 There is some people that are being pushed and many other.

00:26:54.000 They have a Voices That Matter campaign that has been started.

00:26:59.000 And there's a person in leadership that is continuing trying to push this there.

00:27:04.000 I'm not going to get overly into details.

00:27:07.000 If you're interested, you could look at amongst your own things.

00:27:10.000 But I believe that sunlight is the best disinfectant.

00:27:13.000 I believe that if this room cumulatively together said, you know what?

00:27:17.000 What's going on in Litchfield, what's going on in Chandler, Scottsdale is a different example.

00:27:22.000 I don't think kids should have to wear a mask when they go to school.

00:27:24.000 I think it's absolutely insane.

00:27:25.000 And I think we should all stand against it.

00:27:27.000 Let me just be very clear, okay?

00:27:29.000 If you want to wear one, fine.

00:27:30.000 God bless you.

00:27:31.000 I won't say anything, but this mandatory, I think it's bad for childhood development.

00:27:35.000 I think it makes people unfamiliar with each other.

00:27:38.000 I think it makes children less likely to see what God has given us, a face.

00:27:42.000 I think it makes less likely to see the nuance, the spirit, and every single way that we communicate with one another.

00:27:47.000 And so it goes back to this question: what is a human being?

00:27:51.000 We are the speaking beings.

00:27:52.000 And if I can only hear you mumble and I can't see your entire expression, I think it actually dehumanizes our interactions with one another and makes us less civil, less likely to have empathy, less likely to be compassionate, less likely to love like Christ did if we're walking around with masks all the time, acting as if you're the problem, not the opportunity.

00:28:11.000 Let me say that again.

00:28:12.000 We're acting like people are the problem, not the opportunity.

00:28:15.000 Okay, so that thing in Scottsdale is a whole other thing.

00:28:18.000 And so there's a couple bills, though, thankfully, that can address this.

00:28:22.000 So let me just say this.

00:28:23.000 Nationally, there have been a couple states, Oklahoma as one, Montana as the other, and Florida as the other, that have passed pieces of legislation in the state level that have done the following.

00:28:34.000 Arizona currently has not done this, but the opportunity is there.

00:28:38.000 Number one, that has said that men are not allowed to compete in female sports against females.

00:28:50.000 Florida has signed that into law, and God bless Governor Ron DeSantis for doing that.

00:28:59.000 Another one would be banning this idea of critical race theory.

00:29:04.000 Now, let me say this: I'm not one to go quick into this idea of banning.

00:29:09.000 After all, we do love freedom of speech and discourse.

00:29:12.000 However, there are certain ideas that are so vile, so against our ethical system, that we do not believe they should be the forefront of how we train and instill values into our children, especially in the formative years, because we know this, especially those of you that are teachers and that have worked in childhood development.

00:29:29.000 You only get so much time and attention with a five and six and seven-year-old.

00:29:34.000 And if you're using that valuable time to all of a sudden emphasize things that we do not want emphasized, then all of a sudden we should say, time out, that is not what education should be for.

00:29:43.000 So education comes from the Latin word to lead forth.

00:29:47.000 So how are we leading forth the seven-year-olds that say, you know what?

00:29:51.000 What really matters is not how you act.

00:29:53.000 It doesn't matter your decisions.

00:29:55.000 It doesn't matter your relationship with your creator.

00:29:57.000 What matters is something you can't change.

00:29:58.000 That's kind of awfully depressing for a seven-year-old to hear.

00:30:02.000 And so there are a couple bills right now that are up against, that are kind of being debated right now.

00:30:08.000 And the Arizona session is coming to an end.

00:30:12.000 I want to just name a couple that have been vetoed.

00:30:14.000 And I hope that there's some reconsiderations of these right now in Arizona.

00:30:20.000 HB 2792 was vetoed by the governor, which prohibits the delivery of early ballots to anyone who has not specifically requested one.

00:30:28.000 Another one that was vetoed, which is kind of bizarre that this was vetoed, is the one right here that requires the Attorney General to review the constitutionality of any executive orders by the president.

00:30:42.000 That seems rather obvious.

00:30:44.000 The one that I can't quite understand why it was vetoed.

00:30:47.000 And again, I'm not going to make any personal comments about anyone in leadership.

00:30:50.000 You guys can make your own.

00:30:51.000 I'm just telling you facts here.

00:30:52.000 You guys make your own decisions, right?

00:30:54.000 And we're doing everything as a 501c3 would.

00:30:56.000 I'm just here telling you the facts, right?

00:30:58.000 That SB 11074 was vetoed by the governor, which would have banned requiring public employees to participate in critical race theory training, which includes teachers, educators, and administrators.

00:31:10.000 That seems like a no-brainer.

00:31:12.000 Another one, SB 1022 was vetoed, which renamed references in law from product of human conception to unborn child.

00:31:21.000 That's a big deal to all of a sudden kind of say that.

00:31:24.000 So there's about 22 of these bills.

00:31:26.000 I'm not sure why they were vetoed.

00:31:28.000 Your legislature was doing their job, but I hope and I pray that we can change that.

00:31:34.000 We have a lot of little pieces of wood that all of a sudden get very, very loud in the next 30 days, maybe, and do that.

00:31:39.000 So, there was an opportunity here to do something.

00:31:42.000 Opportunity is not lost, but I'll let you guys draw your own conclusions on that, of kind of how that is all happening there.

00:31:50.000 The House did pass an unbiased teaching act barring racist, sexist, and politicized instruction in Arizona schools.

00:31:58.000 And here's what Representative Udall said: Racism cannot be combated by teaching children to be racist.

00:32:04.000 Amen.

00:32:05.000 Our country has not always lived up to that concept that all men are created equal, still is a fundamental idea that should be upheld by our schools, government institutions, and society.

00:32:15.000 To teach our children otherwise is immoral and fuels corrosive social tensions within our state and nation.

00:32:20.000 So, let's just be somewhat solution-oriented.

00:32:23.000 How about we say, Governor, I'm not sure why you vetoed these 22 bills.

00:32:26.000 We're going to say it with a smile, but why don't you pass the Unbiased Teaching Act here in Arizona and lead the rest of the country in saying we in Arizona care about character, not skin color?

00:32:36.000 There is still time to do this, and all of you guys can get that done right here in the state of Arizona.

00:32:44.000 And so, this is still coming up, and Michelle Udall is a Republican member of the House of Representatives in Mesa.

00:32:49.000 And so, there's a lot happening in Arizona.

00:32:52.000 And as we talked about last time, this state is the gateway to the rest of the country.

00:32:57.000 There are hundreds of millions of dollars pouring into the state on the state and local level.

00:33:02.000 And I just want to re-emphasize this point, and I'd love to do some questions and dive into this even more.

00:33:06.000 Re-emphasize the point that the small things are the big things.

00:33:09.000 You never know when your individual courageous action could very well be the thing that all of a sudden changes the course.

00:33:15.000 It could be one letter, one conversation.

00:33:18.000 But I also want to say that let us never become angry or bitter or anything less than joyful in how we communicate that.

00:33:25.000 I've tried my best to do that in the way that I've done this, despite any sort of personal reservations I have.

00:33:30.000 And you guys can make your own feelings.

00:33:32.000 But I think that with good cheer and embodying how we're supposed to communicate and be empathetic, but also clear.

00:33:38.000 Remember, Jesus was so unique, obviously.

00:33:41.000 He was 100% grace and 100% truth.

00:33:45.000 He never wavered on what was true, but he never, ever once was one that got into, I mean, he had every insult possibly thrown at him.

00:33:53.000 He could have gotten raised his voice, he could have done all these things, but he always showed love, compassion, mercy.

00:33:58.000 And I think we have to continue to do that.

00:33:59.000 I think it's actually the most effective way that we can continue to push this forward in our state.

00:34:04.000 And so, I want to re-emphasize one other thing, which is this, this now has become SB 1532.

00:34:12.000 If any of you are interested here in Arizona, to get engaged and get involved in that.

00:34:18.000 And so, in close, let's do some questions in a second here.

00:34:21.000 I'm super thrilled because I'm feeling the momentum.

00:34:24.000 No longer do I have to tell you guys the problem.

00:34:27.000 You guys are asking me, what can I do about the problem?

00:34:29.000 I have parents that are reaching out to me that are not saying, Hey, Charlie, why do I have to go show up to a school board meeting?

00:34:34.000 They're saying, Show up with me.

00:34:37.000 You see, I've said before, my least favorite thing that I have to hear, and I don't hear it a lot anymore.

00:34:41.000 I'm actually hearing it less and less, was this thing that I would hear when people would kind of pat me on the shoulder.

00:34:47.000 They'd say, Hey, Charlie, how's it going out there?

00:34:51.000 What do you mean out there?

00:34:52.000 What am I, like a running back for the Arizona Cardinals or something, right?

00:34:56.000 And there's nothing special about what I do, it's just energy and it's participation.

00:35:01.000 Instead, I'm hearing people that are saying, Man, like these amazing parents I just met with from a certain unspecified part of Arizona, they said, We're in the trenches.

00:35:09.000 We're getting called names, we're getting called all these things, and I feel what you feel.

00:35:14.000 And thank you for having my back, and we have your back.

00:35:16.000 And that's really what we're here to do: to enlighten, to educate.

00:35:20.000 And if you feel so compelled, all of a sudden you believe what Zachariah said.

00:35:24.000 And I'm going to re-emphasize this piece of scripture.

00:35:26.000 Those small things are the big things that the little action that might feel so insignificant that God can use for that great purpose.

00:35:34.000 Let me say this again.

00:35:36.000 Do not despise these small beginnings.

00:35:39.000 The Lord is testing us in this year of 2021.

00:35:43.000 This is the year of small beginnings.

00:35:45.000 Temple construction was suspended since January.

00:35:48.000 It's like, all right, enough.

00:35:50.000 And all of a sudden, we kind of need that catalyst.

00:35:52.000 We need that hype man.

00:35:53.000 We need that reinsertion.

00:35:54.000 And I can tell you this, guys, once that momentum happens, we know that unstoppable.

00:35:59.000 Force equals mass.

00:36:02.000 Look around you.

00:36:03.000 This is almost every seat full, right?

00:36:05.000 Pastor Luke, 2,000 people times acceleration.

00:36:08.000 How fast are we going to move?

00:36:09.000 What are we going to do about it?

00:36:10.000 Are we going to keep on recruiting and doing that?

00:36:12.000 That is the definition of momentum.

00:36:14.000 I can tell you right now, once we have momentum with grace and truth, we are going to win and it's going to be pretty glorious.

00:36:22.000 All right, let's do some questions, guys, which I really enjoy.

00:36:25.000 And let's keep the questions short, if possible.

00:36:31.000 And I want to thank you guys again.

00:36:32.000 I want to re-emphasize a couple things.

00:36:35.000 I want to just thank Dream City.

00:36:36.000 How awesome is it that Dream City is allowing this forum and is allowing this sort of destruction, which is awesome.

00:36:41.000 Thank you, Luke.

00:36:43.000 And that is a very impressive outfit you have, I have to say.

00:36:50.000 So thank you for being here.

00:36:52.000 Oh, sorry about that.

00:36:53.000 So first, I'd like to thank you for all you do.

00:36:55.000 I'm a very big fan of yours.

00:36:56.000 Thank you for saying that.

00:36:56.000 Thank you.

00:36:58.000 So I'm going to try and keep this brief.

00:37:00.000 Can you define in one sentence why figures such as David Chipman, who by the way is running for the AFT, as Joe Biden would call it?

00:37:09.000 Oh, yeah.

00:37:10.000 Right.

00:37:11.000 Why is control not the answer to protect our liberties and freedoms that our founding father instilled in this country?

00:37:19.000 So why is control not the answer? 0.85

00:37:21.000 Gun control.

00:37:22.000 So like you said in one of your previous episodes, big fan of the Charlie Kirk show.

00:37:26.000 Thank you.

00:37:26.000 You said control is not the answer, and that is the key word.

00:37:29.000 It's not gun, but it's control.

00:37:31.000 They want control.

00:37:32.000 I totally get what you're getting at.

00:37:34.000 So let's talk about what makes the American system unique and where did that come from?

00:37:37.000 Then I'm going to land the plane, as I kind of try to always hopefully do.

00:37:41.000 The American system is unique because it was the first experiment ever that had the following attributes.

00:37:46.000 Consent, otherwise known as permission.

00:37:49.000 It was the first time people said, you know what, we agree to this.

00:37:52.000 We're cool with this.

00:37:53.000 And we're going to form something voluntarily.

00:37:56.000 Number two, independent judiciary.

00:37:59.000 Meaning you've got some people that are outside of the mechanisms of politics that can insert themselves and protect what God gave you.

00:38:05.000 Let me say that again.

00:38:06.000 There is an institution that exists that can insert themselves and protect what God gave you.

00:38:11.000 What did God give us?

00:38:12.000 Well, who are we in the state of nature?

00:38:13.000 We have consciousness.

00:38:15.000 We have speech.

00:38:16.000 Speech is a big deal.

00:38:17.000 Speech is what separates us from the beasts of the wild.

00:38:21.000 So it separates us just from a dog or from a cat or from a giraffe.

00:38:24.000 Speech is the logos.

00:38:26.000 In the beginning, God created the word and the word was with God and the word was God.

00:38:31.000 That word logos is a very heavy word in Greek.

00:38:34.000 And so it's word, it's reason, it's truth.

00:38:38.000 It's all of those things.

00:38:40.000 We are the speaking beings, and the American founders knew that.

00:38:44.000 And they put forward a rules for government first and foremost.

00:38:48.000 What else makes this system different is permission, independent judiciary, and also this idea of a republic.

00:38:57.000 We are not a democracy, everybody.

00:38:59.000 It makes me want to pull my hair out of my head when I hear that we're a democracy.

00:39:03.000 Now, what's the difference?

00:39:05.000 Well, a democracy would be this.

00:39:07.000 We take a vote in a room like this.

00:39:09.000 We say, how many of you want to get rid of freedom of speech?

00:39:11.000 And if 51% of the hands go up, it's gone.

00:39:14.000 A republic is intentionally slow and deliberate because it recognizes things that are eternal, things that don't change.

00:39:22.000 You see, the professors and the people that run our public health department and the people on television, they try to convince you because we have airplanes and internet and Twitter and Facebook that human beings have evolved so much since the times of Christ.

00:39:33.000 Now, we're just as lying, deceitful, treacherous, self-centered, narcissistic, and sociopathic as the Pharisees were.

00:39:40.000 We haven't really improved much at all. 0.93

00:39:41.000 In fact, in some ways, technology has made it worse.

00:39:45.000 So the founding fathers built the system on things that do not change.

00:39:49.000 Don't let your smug friends say, oh, we've advanced so much in postmodern America.

00:39:55.000 I can fly to New York, therefore we're better people.

00:39:57.000 Or I can communicate.

00:39:59.000 Well, no, actually, those things only reinforce or accelerate our broken nature.

00:40:03.000 In fact, it only makes us need Jesus more.

00:40:06.000 And so this republic style of government recognizes that.

00:40:10.000 The American system also has this idea of checks and balances.

00:40:15.000 So if you dive deep into the philosophy behind the American founding, you start to see this recurring theme, which is it's really hard to change things quickly.

00:40:26.000 I want to think, just I want to reiterate that.

00:40:27.000 It's hard to change things quickly.

00:40:29.000 And so the founding fathers realized that this idea of liberty is super rare.

00:40:36.000 But all the founders knew when the declaration was signed.

00:40:39.000 I always point to Connor because he's our producer.

00:40:41.000 He always gets the exact number.

00:40:43.000 I think it was 70 out of 74.

00:40:44.000 The signers of the Declaration were self-declared Christians or regular church attendants.

00:40:50.000 They were inspired by the teachings of Jonathan Edwards and George Whitfield.

00:40:53.000 They knew that liberty was not man's idea.

00:40:56.000 It was God's idea.

00:40:57.000 They knew that this idea of liberty was so short-lived.

00:41:01.000 So let's go through the Bill of Rights if we can.

00:41:03.000 I won't go through all 10 because not all of them apply, but why not?

00:41:07.000 So First Amendment, right?

00:41:09.000 We are the speaking beings.

00:41:10.000 That's who we are.

00:41:11.000 We're not beings that just have force.

00:41:13.000 Chimpanzees fight each other.

00:41:15.000 We don't just pursue pleasure.

00:41:17.000 Plenty of animals do that.

00:41:18.000 No, speech is what differentiates us.

00:41:21.000 Jesus spoke.

00:41:22.000 God spoke and it became true.

00:41:24.000 In Genesis 1, right?

00:41:25.000 He spoke and the world came into existence.

00:41:28.000 We're made in the image of God, just as God spoke.

00:41:30.000 So that's why the First Amendment is so important, that you're able to speak your mind and let the best ideas win.

00:41:35.000 Let us have this sort of debate, this discourse, this dialogue.

00:41:38.000 It's fundamental to who we are.

00:41:39.000 Second Amendment, I'll get to that in a second.

00:41:41.000 Third Amendment is kind of fun.

00:41:42.000 It's like you can't put soldiers in your home.

00:41:44.000 I know you kind of like, we laugh at that one.

00:41:46.000 That was actually a really, really big deal back in the revolutionary times that you just can't quarter soldiers.

00:41:50.000 Like, oh, I own the place.

00:41:51.000 Fourth Amendment, right to privacy, right?

00:41:51.000 Thanks very much.

00:41:54.000 That the government just can't storm into your home and take all of your stuff.

00:41:57.000 Fifth Amendment, that you're able, that's the right against self-incrimination.

00:42:01.000 Six, seven, eight are all about due process, quick and speedy trial.

00:42:04.000 The Ninth Amendment is really kind of fun because the Ninth Amendment says that there are rights out there that exist that aren't currently articulated in the Constitution.

00:42:14.000 I actually love that amendment because it says very clearly in the Bill of Rights, it says, if we didn't touch it, it doesn't mean we got it wrong.

00:42:21.000 It means very well that we're not saying we have all the answers.

00:42:26.000 It's the most humble amendment of the entire United States Constitution and honestly the most looked after, the Ninth Amendment.

00:42:32.000 The 10th Amendment, which means that anything we didn't cover goes down to the states and down to the people.

00:42:38.000 I love the 10th Amendment because remember, the states created the federal government.

00:42:41.000 The federal government did not create the states.

00:42:43.000 Let me say that again.

00:42:44.000 The states created the federal government.

00:42:46.000 The federal government did not create the states.

00:42:48.000 Now, what's interesting, and I will get back to your Second Amendment question, is that the Bill of Rights was not put or passed till December of 1791.

00:42:59.000 If you guys remember, in 1787, in September, after some heated debates, that's when the Constitution was passed.

00:43:05.000 It took them four years to get this passed.

00:43:07.000 Is George Mason, good old George Mason, who passed the original Bill of Rights in Virginia, which recognized this idea, like, hey, you need extra protections so human beings don't get steamrolled by government because that's how God made them.

00:43:23.000 And they need to be able to pursue virtue.

00:43:26.000 Let me say what liberty is: liberty is not being able to put drugs in your body or do things as you want to do it.

00:43:31.000 This like weird secular version of liberty.

00:43:34.000 That is never what the founding fathers knew liberty to be.

00:43:37.000 Liberty is the ability to pursue virtue, which means the good, without someone getting in the way.

00:43:43.000 That's what liberty is.

00:43:45.000 Liberty is your ability to be able to pursue virtue without someone getting in the way.

00:43:49.000 That means what we're doing here: freedom of worship and assembly.

00:43:52.000 Now, the Second Amendment.

00:43:54.000 I believe the Second Amendment is the amendment that protects all the other amendments.

00:43:58.000 Without the Second Amendment, there would be no First Amendment.

00:44:01.000 Now, this is a, some people would call it a controversial way to describe this.

00:44:06.000 I don't care.

00:44:07.000 Because if we just have a little bit of reading of history, it is time and time again of well-meaning people that represent the people that all of a sudden take away our freedoms and liberties.

00:44:19.000 And the founding fathers do this.

00:44:21.000 They knew that in order for consent of the governed to work and permission to work, people had to be able to defend themselves, not just from someone coming into their home, but God forbid from a usurptatious government.

00:44:33.000 And this is a unique characteristic of the American system.

00:44:37.000 This is one that I believe actually creates more peace than conflict.

00:44:42.000 It creates more negotiation and bargain than actual toil and division.

00:44:47.000 And it's almost completely contrarian than what you might believe.

00:44:51.000 So the new ATF person, as I now come back to your question, is now up for confirmation.

00:44:57.000 He does not believe that firearm ownership is a constitutional right.

00:45:02.000 He has a whole litany of he thinks that AR-15s aren't, they should be confiscated. 0.61

00:45:08.000 He thought that Waco went well.

00:45:10.000 If anyone thinks that the Waco siege went well, like, it's like, you're going to campaign on Chernobyl next or something? 0.57

00:45:18.000 Like, is that you're going to all of a sudden be like, Three Mile Island, like, greatest thing ever. 0.68

00:45:22.000 Like, okay, that's definitely not the government instance. 0.87

00:45:26.000 He oversaw Waco.

00:45:27.000 But I do want to say this: that you're a very surprising and how do I characterize her?

00:45:34.000 I don't really know, but she's either courageous or she's really wants power.

00:45:40.000 Senator Sinema, she has not said she's going to vote for him yet.

00:45:43.000 And so I don't know.

00:45:45.000 She's been pretty good on a couple things.

00:45:46.000 Again, I know that she's awful unlike everything else, but the fact that she opposes breaking the filibuster and adding these things and she's giving some of these nominees a hard time, honestly, think because I could use a couple people standing up and kind of doing, just throwing a little chaos there.

00:46:03.000 But let me just complete the point.

00:46:05.000 It is about control.

00:46:06.000 And I'll give you one final example of this.

00:46:09.000 If you're not yet one over on this, and I'm a big Second Amendment guy, obviously, which is, I want you to think back to Hong Kong, the Hong Kong protesters two years ago.

00:46:19.000 The Hong Kong protesters, again, Hong Kong for 100 years had a 100-year contract with the British.

00:46:24.000 It was a sovereign place where they had private property rights, freedom of commerce.

00:46:28.000 100-year contract basically expires.

00:46:29.000 Long story short, the Chinese Communist Party basically assumed control of it.

00:46:33.000 Still sovereign, but the CCP, super, they're super, they're very, very, what's the word I'm looking for?

00:46:40.000 Not just greedy, but they just want more territory.

00:46:42.000 And so they got in this conflict.

00:46:43.000 Remember that two years ago?

00:46:44.000 That we're going to govern ourselves.

00:46:47.000 We knew that that was not a negotiation.

00:46:50.000 That was a hostage situation.

00:46:53.000 Why? 0.51

00:46:54.000 Because the Hong Kong people had no way to defend themselves.

00:46:57.000 At the end of that whole thing, it was whoever brings in the tanks is going to get what they want.

00:47:02.000 Now, I want you to imagine a situation if the people of Hong Kong peacefully had an AR-15 strapped around their back.

00:47:10.000 All 600,000 of them.

00:47:11.000 The Chinese Communist Party would have said, let's negotiate.

00:47:15.000 That's how you can have an armed citizenry that can broker peace and prevent conflict and ensure liberty and freedom.

00:47:23.000 Next question.

00:47:23.000 Thank you.

00:47:28.000 Hello, Charlie.

00:47:29.000 Thank you again for being here.

00:47:30.000 And I think I speak for everybody.

00:47:32.000 When I thank you, that we thank you for all your hard work, all your dedication, all your research, all being rooted in the truth, information that you come back to inform us.

00:47:44.000 So thank you for your wonderful wedding gift, too, by the way.

00:47:46.000 I meant to thank you for that.

00:47:48.000 Give me the sweetest wedding gift.

00:47:50.000 Thank you.

00:47:51.000 You're welcome.

00:47:52.000 So here's my question. 0.83

00:47:54.000 Last night on Tucker, Candace Owens was on, and she spoke about how the Democrats are actually changing the demographics of the United States, that the Harris-Biden, the Biden-Harris administration, however you want to go ahead and look at it, is actually changing the demographics of the United States by bringing in all these illegals.

00:48:23.000 They're the new votes for the Democrats.

00:48:25.000 So here's my question.

00:48:27.000 How do I, as an individual, how do we, we being the corporate consensus Christian conservatives, how do we stand up against this and stop this insanity?

00:48:43.000 Yeah, so thank you for your question.

00:48:44.000 So let's talk about biblical immigration for a second, because I think that there's a little bit of a misunderstanding here.

00:48:49.000 Every time immigration, migration, or transferring from one land to the other is talked about in the Bible, assimilation is almost always mentioned.

00:48:57.000 Almost always.

00:48:58.000 So what is assimilation?

00:49:00.000 Assimilation is coming and agreeing to the pre-existing culture or language or history.

00:49:06.000 And so that's a very important thing.

00:49:08.000 This idea of borders is actually a biblical idea.

00:49:11.000 This idea of a nation is actually a biblical idea.

00:49:14.000 So let's talk about what a nation is.

00:49:15.000 A nation is mentioned many, many times all throughout the scriptures.

00:49:18.000 A nation is when people come together, hopefully voluntarily, and they agree, again, hopefully through their actual consent, to be able to govern themselves in one way or the other.

00:49:28.000 Nations are rarely, if not ever, acts of randomness.

00:49:32.000 Nations are usually deliberate.

00:49:34.000 Now, sometimes you have some people that play war games with that, but where we are right now, most nations are deliberate.

00:49:41.000 If nations all of a sudden are just kind of suggestions and borders are nothing more than lines drawn on a map, then all of a sudden that means the Bill of Rights does not really apply to the people of America.

00:49:51.000 It might apply to the entire Western Hemisphere, but whose Bill of Rights?

00:49:54.000 The Mexican Bill of Rights or the American Bill of Rights?

00:49:56.000 Now, I have nothing against the Mexican Bill of Rights, but the Second Amendment's not in the Mexican Bill of Rights.

00:50:01.000 I have nothing against the Mexican Bill of Rights, but they do not have as robust free speech protections, or maybe the Canadian Constitution, where they just locked up another nine pastors for violating orders for doing exactly what you did right now.

00:50:12.000 What I'm getting at is that borders and immigration, the ability to have self-determination, is a fundamentally moral question.

00:50:21.000 Now, let me say this.

00:50:22.000 When it comes to this idea of immigration into the country, we have to also broaden the conversation that it's not moral for the people that are coming here, the women that get raped, taken advantage of, trafficked across the southern border for sport and for pay by coyotes in the cartel that have created these vacuums of, boy, what's the right word I'm looking for?

00:50:46.000 They create these vacuums of, they're taking advantage, these vacuums of, quite honestly, horror.

00:50:53.000 That's the best way to say it. 0.76

00:50:54.000 And so the moral thing to do would be what Nehemiah did. 0.98

00:50:58.000 Build a wall and have a process if you want to come in to come in. 0.95

00:51:02.000 The entire book of Nehemiah is just about that. 0.89

00:51:05.000 Because in the book of Nehemiah, it says very clearly, and I'm quoting, I'm paraphrasing, I should say, that there are threats sometimes that want to diminish the state of Israel.

00:51:13.000 And this idea about nations and borders, I love Israel, by the way.

00:51:17.000 Greg, you and I talk about Israel all the time.

00:51:18.000 I love Israel.

00:51:19.000 Israel is awesome.

00:51:20.000 And one of the reasons I love Israel is that Israel is very clear about the country that they are.

00:51:26.000 Look, we're Jewish.

00:51:27.000 We are the one Jewish countries at Israel's end.

00:51:29.000 We're the one place for the Jewish people.

00:51:32.000 And thank you for being here tonight, by the way.

00:51:37.000 Thank you.

00:51:37.000 Appreciate that.

00:51:38.000 So Israel has its ability to say that we have self-determination and we are going to be a Jewish state.

00:51:45.000 And because of that, they have walls and they have a defense mechanism.

00:51:48.000 We saw what happened when some people wanted to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

00:51:52.000 Let me just say this about Israel.

00:51:54.000 If Israel laid down their weapons, there would be no Israel. 0.95

00:51:57.000 If the Arabs laid down their weapons, there would be peace. 0.97

00:52:00.000 That's all I have to say about Israel in the Middle East. 0.98

00:52:02.000 With that being said, I believe it is a moral thing that Israel says we are going to have control over the people that come into our nation. 0.93

00:52:13.000 So what can you do?

00:52:15.000 I think we should have grace and mercy and truth.

00:52:18.000 At the same time, we must be very clear through public policy decisions that if immigration, which I believe it is, is being used as a political tool, that is immoral and it is wrong and is being used as a continual political football.

00:52:30.000 And I find that to be reprehensible.

00:52:32.000 So thank you.

00:52:32.000 Next question.

00:52:35.000 Hi, I'm just going to start with an opening statement.

00:52:38.000 Okay.

00:52:39.000 So $86.9 million was given to a non-profit organization to house illegal immigrants, technical immigration, in hotel rooms.

00:52:49.000 Now, how many people right now who serve this country are having trouble paying for the housing bills, including their medical, their meals, and yet we have 87 million dollars given to illegal immigrants to an organization to house them until they get a court date.

00:53:06.000 So my question is, can you give us one practical thing we can do to avoid this or to stop the government from doing this? 0.96

00:53:12.000 Because I don't know about you, but I prefer American citizens to get help, even more veterans to get help than illegal immigrants or criminals that come into this country. 0.55

00:53:24.000 I totally agree. 1.00

00:53:25.000 And so here's what there is a lot of problems with the whole way this system is designed.

00:53:33.000 We now have an incentive structure for more and more people to come.

00:53:36.000 We have created chaos and we're subsidizing chaos and we're housing it and we're attracting more of it.

00:53:44.000 So practical is tough.

00:53:46.000 I will say this though, that the more the governors of the southern states can try to use whatever resources they have at their disposal to try to protect the sovereignty of the states that they've been sworn to protect, I'm in full support of that.

00:54:00.000 It seems like the federal government is completely uninterested in helping right now, that our vice president goes down to Guatemala and is interested in that.

00:54:09.000 Look, we had a time where border crossings were at an all-time low.

00:54:13.000 It was about 14 months ago. 0.83

00:54:14.000 We had a policy of a return in Mexico, remain in Mexico.

00:54:19.000 And guess what?

00:54:20.000 The amount of rapes, human smuggling, child sex trafficking, drugs, and guns being smuggled were plummeting.

00:54:26.000 So I think we have to talk about the holistic human cost here as well.

00:54:30.000 And I just got to be honest, I'm losing my patience with the current people in power that lectured me and us for nine months about children in cages.

00:54:41.000 And now that is even worse than ever before.

00:54:43.000 And all of a sudden, we have to be just kind of just virtue-signaled non-stop. 0.55

00:54:48.000 So, this is where hopefully we can get a leadership class in our country that starts to be very clear about what immigration is, what that mechanism is. 0.87

00:54:56.000 And mass migration is not good for anybody. 0.67

00:54:59.000 It isn't. 1.00

00:54:59.000 It's not good for the people. 1.00

00:55:00.000 It's not good for you.

00:55:01.000 It's not good for the workers.

00:55:02.000 It's not good for crime.

00:55:03.000 It's not good for schools.

00:55:05.000 It's not good.

00:55:06.000 A nation, as described in the Bible, has a moral right of self-determination to be able to decide who comes into their country and for what purpose.

00:55:15.000 I'm afraid that the spirit of generosity we have has now been taken advantage of on a national and international level, and that it is now coming at a great cost to us.

00:55:27.000 And so we have to be very clear about that.

00:55:29.000 I wish I had more solutions, man.

00:55:31.000 But it's kind of heartbreaking because we saw that go in a positive direction 14 months ago.

00:55:36.000 And that's something that has a lot of federal.

00:55:38.000 So what I would love to see happen is the governor of Arizona and Texas.

00:55:42.000 New Mexico is a total waste of time.

00:55:44.000 Maybe get into, you know, I mean, like they're on a reservation.

00:55:47.000 Just ask Steve Smutterman all about that.

00:55:48.000 He's got a lot to tell you about that.

00:55:51.000 Come to some sort of state-based coalition to say, look, I'll just use Texas as an example.

00:55:56.000 If you're not going to do it, I'm going to mobilize the Texas Rangers, right?

00:55:59.000 Like, I mean, at some point, there's got to be a breaking point there, right?

00:56:03.000 Because there's a mechanism for this to work, but you guys see this.

00:56:08.000 And just so you guys know, Scottsdale Road.

00:56:13.000 Scottsdale Road, there is a hotel that used to be a double tree right across from the Hampton Inn Suites where there are hundreds of foreign nationals that have illegally entered into America that are being paid $384 a night to stay there. 0.93

00:56:27.000 And quite honestly, I'm really insulted because I grew up around Czechoslovakians and Poles and Arabs and Persians and Koreans that waited their turn and they applied and they came into this country and that somehow we should give preference to people that jump in line and border jump.

00:56:46.000 I'm not a fan and I find that to be something that we should oppose. 0.98

00:56:49.000 So thank you so much.

00:56:50.000 I really appreciate that.

00:56:56.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:56:57.000 Thanks for being here.

00:56:58.000 So this is a heavy topic.

00:57:00.000 I apologize if it's painful for anyone here.

00:57:02.000 I want to know how we can more emphasize God's love, mercy, and forgiveness for those who have already participated in abortion instead of rejecting or judging them because they're the ones that need our compassion the most.

00:57:15.000 First of all, thank you for that question.

00:57:17.000 And I totally agree.

00:57:19.000 And I'm going to speak some tough love to the pro-life movement right now.

00:57:26.000 So I've been pro-life my whole life.

00:57:28.000 And I think the pro-life movement is doing some good things, Lila Rose and others, but we're doing, I don't know what, I've never seen an advertisement.

00:57:39.000 I could be wrong, and I'm going to say this as lovingly as I can.

00:57:41.000 An advertisement or reached out to ever by a pregnancy crisis center anywhere in the country.

00:57:47.000 Ever. 0.93

00:57:48.000 We should be leading with that. 1.00

00:57:50.000 We should be leading with the pregnancy crisis.

00:57:52.000 None of them even knows what a pregnancy crisis center is. 0.86

00:57:54.000 Let me tell you what a pregnancy crisis center is. 0.94

00:57:56.000 It's the pro-life equivalent of a planned parenthood.

00:58:00.000 You would be stunned how many pro-life activists don't even know these exist.

00:58:03.000 Wow.

00:58:04.000 And so a pregnancy crisis center is a place that's rooted usually in Christian ethics and values, but it's all about trying to love and counsel and give compassion to expectant mothers to have the child.

00:58:19.000 And I'll say this.

00:58:20.000 I think that the way the pro-life movement currently is in some of its messaging, it is way too harsh for women that were taken advantage of by abortionists.

00:58:32.000 I'll give you a great example of this.

00:58:33.000 I got a question the other day in Ohio, and it was contentious.

00:58:37.000 It was back and forth.

00:58:38.000 And he said, Charlie, I think that women that have had abortion should pay a price.

00:58:43.000 And I got really upset.

00:58:44.000 And I don't get upset very easily, right?

00:58:46.000 I try to embody the fruits of the spirit, the last of which is self-control.

00:58:50.000 I was like, forget it, right?

00:58:52.000 And truly, I said, hold on a second.

00:58:55.000 You know so little about how this process works.

00:58:58.000 These are people that come with whatever option, the small framework of options that have been given to them.

00:59:03.000 We don't have a culture of life in many communities, including, by the way, upper middle class white communities. 0.52

00:59:08.000 Just so we're clear, upper middle class white communities, there's like nothing worse than being pregnant as a teenager or early 20 something.

00:59:16.000 And we should be way more understanding and accepting and lifting mothers up like, okay, you made a mistake, but you just made it right for a mistake that you just made.

00:59:23.000 Instead, we're like, oh, you did that premaritally, like you're a bad person.

00:59:28.000 So like, no, actually, okay, you made a mistake.

00:59:30.000 A lot of people do.

00:59:31.000 And there's grace every day thanks to our creator, Jesus Christ.

00:59:35.000 And God bless you for now saying you're going to take responsibility to bring that life into this world.

00:59:40.000 And a lot of young women, they fear nothing more than having to have that kind of conversation.

00:59:44.000 And quite honestly, I can see that to an extent.

00:59:47.000 Secondly, they underestimate the abortionists.

00:59:50.000 These abortionists have a profit incentive to misrepresent the facts, to go after women and try to have a system that they profit from, that they have a financial model.

01:00:01.000 I'm perfectly cool with this conversation of holding abortionists accountable, but I think women have to be met with grace and compassion and mercy and say, look, man, it's bad for everyone.

01:00:14.000 You know, majority of women regret having abortions in our country.

01:00:18.000 And a lot of women never even knew it was an option.

01:00:22.000 They didn't know adoption was an option.

01:00:23.000 They didn't know.

01:00:23.000 And I know that's hard for a lot of people to hear because maybe you're right in, maybe you're in the foxhole, the pro-life space.

01:00:29.000 And like, we have this option and this option and this option.

01:00:32.000 I don't see any of it.

01:00:33.000 I don't.

01:00:33.000 I know what Dream City is doing, which is awesome.

01:00:36.000 And, but holistically, we need to do a lot more.

01:00:40.000 And I think it's also a tonal thing too.

01:00:42.000 It has to be tonal, T-O-N-A-L, which is we got to be the ones that are like, hey, we're pro-life, but we're also going to be the ones that if we need to look after a kid, we will.

01:00:52.000 We're going to be the ones that are going to help, you know, in any way possible.

01:00:56.000 And I think you're right.

01:00:57.000 And this is something I've been talked about a lot.

01:00:58.000 And we're only going to ever, I think, win on that issue when we embrace the entire cycle of life, which is exactly what this beautiful church does from the people that are lost and abandoned and forsaken all throughout.

01:01:10.000 I really believe that.

01:01:11.000 And so just a word of improvement.

01:01:14.000 When we talk about this issue, we got to talk about the miracle of life.

01:01:18.000 We got to talk about everyone made in God's image.

01:01:20.000 But also understand that in certain communities across the country, young women that might be pregnant, they're in crisis.

01:01:27.000 And what they fear is not raising the child.

01:01:29.000 That is not what they fear.

01:01:31.000 They fear the conversations with critical and judgmental, sanctimonious moralists.

01:01:37.000 They're going to say, oh, you got pregnant. 1.00

01:01:41.000 Oh, that's actually what a lot of women fear.

01:01:44.000 And I just want to make sure that's very clear. 0.54

01:01:45.000 And we have to be solution about that.

01:01:47.000 So God bless you.

01:01:48.000 And thank you for that correct question.

01:01:52.000 Okay, next question.

01:01:56.000 Okay.

01:01:57.000 Okay.

01:01:57.000 Okay, Tommy.

01:01:59.000 You're the man.

01:02:00.000 I just wanted to thank you for the fire that you lit underneath parents like me.

01:02:05.000 And it really is working.

01:02:07.000 I wanted to let you know that there is a group called the West Side Moms United.

01:02:13.000 I love that.

01:02:14.000 And we have gotten together and we are taking Josh's Barnett, who is the gentleman who had that fitness place.

01:02:23.000 And we are serving the school boards.

01:02:26.000 We are serving the principals.

01:02:28.000 We are serving the governor.

01:02:29.000 We are serving the sheriffs.

01:02:31.000 We are serving everyone about the mask mandates and the vaccine mandates.

01:02:41.000 That's awesome.

01:02:46.000 So you're a small thing.

01:02:50.000 So first of all, this is, I just want you guys to understand, this is uniquely American.

01:02:55.000 I get messages from people across the world, Lithuania, Norway, Korea, and they're locked down in the government.

01:03:01.000 And this idea of the disagreeable citizen, this idea of the, no, you're going to need my permission to do that, is so amazingly American.

01:03:15.000 And you embody that.

01:03:16.000 And all of you guys do too.

01:03:18.000 And that's what, and it's something that is so special.

01:03:23.000 And we have to preserve it because when tyranny oversteps its bound, the true check and balance, everybody, is you and us.

01:03:30.000 That's the true check and balance.

01:03:32.000 So God bless you for saying that.

01:03:33.000 And any way I can help you, let me just re-emphasize one thing.

01:03:37.000 I am not pro-vaccine.

01:03:38.000 I'm not anti-vaccine.

01:03:40.000 I am vaccine.

01:03:41.000 I say agnostic.

01:03:42.000 It's not the perfect word for it.

01:03:43.000 I'm neutral.

01:03:44.000 Like, whatever.

01:03:45.000 Just do your research.

01:03:46.000 I'm not personally getting the vaccine.

01:03:48.000 That's my own decision.

01:03:49.000 You don't have to applaud.

01:03:50.000 Some people boo.

01:03:50.000 Some people applaud.

01:03:51.000 Whatever.

01:03:52.000 I am so against vaccine mandates.

01:03:55.000 I can't even tell them.

01:03:56.000 I think we can all agree, especially for children for vaccine mandates for the Chinese coronavirus vaccine.

01:04:02.000 Let's talk to you.

01:04:05.000 So this is about parents' rights.

01:04:08.000 It is their right to mask their child or not.

01:04:11.000 It is their right to vaccinate their child or not.

01:04:14.000 I love it.

01:04:15.000 And the West Valley Moms United, what a great name for a group.

01:04:21.000 And I wouldn't want to get in your way.

01:04:24.000 So God bless you.

01:04:25.000 It's not yours, but you're part of it.

01:04:27.000 So whomever is running it, God bless that person.

01:04:30.000 So thank you.

01:04:30.000 Okay, next question.

01:04:32.000 My name is Elise, and I'm 16.

01:04:32.000 Hello.

01:04:35.000 Thank you for being here.

01:04:36.000 Thank you.

01:04:37.000 So my question is a little bit specific.

01:04:40.000 How do you encourage someone to think for themselves when they're surrounded by far-left influences and you're the only conservative influence on their life?

01:04:52.000 Well, so I want you to look around.

01:04:55.000 This is one of the reasons why I love Freedom Square.

01:04:58.000 So I'm going to do the thing where I'll eventually get back to it.

01:05:04.000 Aristotle said politics is the highest form of community because it combines sociability and morality.

01:05:10.000 And I just want you to know this is a community for you.

01:05:13.000 And if you're the only one, you should get involved with turning points.

01:05:16.000 Keep coming to Freedom Square because this is a place where you can look around and know you're not alone, know that people share your values and that you want to do something about it.

01:05:24.000 I just want to just re-emphasize that.

01:05:26.000 It's tough, the situation you're in.

01:05:28.000 You in high school?

01:05:29.000 It's only going to get worse.

01:05:31.000 And one of the tricks, no, it is.

01:05:34.000 You get into college and you get older, meaning like this, one of the tricks of the enemy, I call it all the eyes of what the enemy does.

01:05:42.000 Intimidation and then isolation.

01:05:45.000 They want you to feel as if you're the only one.

01:05:48.000 They want you to feel as if there's no one else that's within the connective tissue of your belief system or your worldview.

01:05:54.000 It's a trick.

01:05:55.000 It's not the truth.

01:05:57.000 And so what I want to say to someone that might want to think that you're like, how do I get this person to think freely?

01:06:01.000 Do what Christ did and what Socrates did.

01:06:05.000 I prefer Christ as the example.

01:06:06.000 Just ask questions.

01:06:08.000 Dig deeper.

01:06:09.000 Say, so why do you believe that?

01:06:11.000 Do you think that anything is worth preserving?

01:06:14.000 Do you think that anything that existed before you were born was beautiful?

01:06:18.000 What is beauty?

01:06:19.000 Do you find anything to be objectively true?

01:06:21.000 These are all really good questions, by the way, that they're probably not being asked by their teacher.

01:06:25.000 That, by the way, is what classical education is all about.

01:06:28.000 Asking questions.

01:06:30.000 So tell me why you believe what you believe.

01:06:32.000 Well, because I was told, no, that's a really bad reason.

01:06:34.000 So tell me what is true.

01:06:37.000 And so let me just tell you one of my biggest pet peeps.

01:06:39.000 And someone says, Well, my opinion is like, Yeah, I really don't care about that.

01:06:42.000 Tell me things that are true.

01:06:44.000 Yeah, my opinion is the Bible isn't true.

01:06:46.000 Okay, yeah, I got that. 0.99

01:06:47.000 So tell me things that are true.

01:06:48.000 You know, everyone's got their own opinion, right?

01:06:50.000 But ask questions and do it the way Christ did it.

01:06:54.000 Engage in long-form dialogues that are rooted in mutual agreement and listen and listen carefully.

01:07:00.000 Don't listen or try to get your point across.

01:07:02.000 That's hearing, not listening.

01:07:04.000 I mean, do less hearing, we need to do more listening.

01:07:06.000 I do that too.

01:07:07.000 Like, yeah, okay, stop talking so I can say my next thing, right?

01:07:09.000 We all do that, right?

01:07:10.000 Come on, Okay, now I'm going to say something smart.

01:07:12.000 We've got to really listen, right?

01:07:14.000 We all do that, of course, obviously.

01:07:16.000 Like, yeah, come on, wrap it up, wrap it up.

01:07:18.000 Yeah, and did you know?

01:07:19.000 Like, no, because people are a lot more interesting than you might think.

01:07:23.000 And honestly, a lot of young people probably share your values more than you might believe.

01:07:28.000 And at the bottom of it, if you're around a lot of 16-year-olds, here's the driving force.

01:07:32.000 A lot of them actually probably want to do good in the world and they just don't know the mechanism.

01:07:38.000 And just a very basic question.

01:07:41.000 If you want to just like open up Pandora's box, just ask them what is good and where does that come from?

01:07:46.000 How do you know a line is crooked if you don't have a straight line to compare it to?

01:07:50.000 How do you know something is true?

01:07:51.000 How do you know something is false if you don't know that which is true?

01:07:54.000 And that's this idea of objective truth, which is what the entire Christian faith is centered around, right?

01:07:59.000 Our whole belief system is that some things are irrefutably, eternally true.

01:08:05.000 And then we built a whole civilization around things that were eternal, right?

01:08:08.000 And that's the connection between the divine and then the material.

01:08:11.000 And so the other thing is just, I keep re-emphasizing this point: just be an embodiment of light and win them over with your charm and who you are.

01:08:21.000 And eventually the ideas will follow.

01:08:22.000 I'll give you a great example of this.

01:08:24.000 And it's been really hard the last couple of days.

01:08:26.000 We lost a dear friend, Foster Freese, a little while ago.

01:08:30.000 Some of you knew Foster.

01:08:31.000 He was larger than life.

01:08:33.000 This man proved that God existed.

01:08:37.000 He made friends with Harry Reed.

01:08:38.000 And I was like, how did you do that?

01:08:40.000 No, seriously, I was like, that was best friends.

01:08:44.000 And it was, they disagreed on everything.

01:08:46.000 But it's the way he approached every conversation.

01:08:49.000 You felt that he was so intent when he was listening to you.

01:08:52.000 That every word was something.

01:08:53.000 He's like, okay, I really want to see where you're coming from.

01:08:56.000 With hyper focus, not just kind of ready to exhaust the point.

01:08:59.000 And I think that's a really good lesson when we try to get into these sometimes controversial and divisive topics.

01:09:04.000 So I hope that's helpful.

01:09:05.000 And then you should join Turning Point USA.

01:09:07.000 God bless you.

01:09:08.000 So, all right, we'll get a couple more.

01:09:11.000 So, knowing that our end goal here is a great awakening, each great awakening had numerous variables and factors involved.

01:09:18.000 I personally agree that education is the first big step, which is why I plan on volunteering with Turning Point USA as soon as possible.

01:09:25.000 But my question here, not trying to look too far, but at least the next few years, is what is step number two?

01:09:31.000 Because education has to be first, but what's next?

01:09:34.000 So, what an articulate question.

01:09:37.000 And whatever you're going to do in life, you'll do well.

01:09:39.000 I mean that because that's really thoughtful.

01:09:42.000 So, look, there's things we can control and things we can't control.

01:09:45.000 And sometimes we conflate the two of them.

01:09:48.000 And so, it's important to know what I can control and then pray steadfastly and trust the Lord for things we cannot control.

01:09:55.000 But what we said earlier, the things we can control are actually really big things.

01:09:59.000 The small things are the big things.

01:10:00.000 So, education is a huge piece.

01:10:03.000 You're all sitting right now in the next piece.

01:10:06.000 This is the piece that I think needs to be sprung into action.

01:10:10.000 And it's been an amazing answer to prayer here at Dream City to see all this coming.

01:10:14.000 I want you to look around you.

01:10:15.000 These are 2,000 people at 8 o'clock, on a Tuesday night in Phoenix that are coming together to hear and listen about what's happening in the nation and in the area around you.

01:10:26.000 There's something happening here, and I don't know quite what it is, but it's bigger than all of us.

01:10:30.000 And it could be explained as maybe the spirit moving or something that's really, really awesome.

01:10:34.000 And I'm telling you that the test is gonna be, and so here's, here's a good, someone said to me, Charlie, what does success look like for 2021?

01:10:45.000 What should it look like for me?

01:10:46.000 And I'll say, here's what it looks like.

01:10:48.000 I want you to imagine that an invisible man follows you around your entire year and documents your year.

01:10:55.000 And he has to give a summary of what your year, like what described that person?

01:11:01.000 A year well lived in 2021.

01:11:04.000 would say, you know what?

01:11:06.000 That guy had guts.

01:11:08.000 That's it.

01:11:09.000 If every person got that description and said that guy had guts for truth, that guy did something that was beyond themselves, that took a leap of faith.

01:11:18.000 If every person had that description, then all of a sudden this thing would turn around.

01:11:22.000 I'll be honest, some of the biggest movements are by a couple thousand people that congregate in places that really matter.

01:11:29.000 It's this kind of retelling of history where sometimes like, oh, it was 500 million people.

01:11:33.000 Sometimes it's 500.

01:11:35.000 The American Revolution was hatched in barns and saloons, bars, barns, literally, bars, saloons, taverns, and churches of just eight to 10 people that were like, hey, do you hear about this George Washington guy?

01:11:45.000 He's kind of awesome.

01:11:46.000 That was before the internet, before Twitter, before Facebook, before TikTok, before Snapchat.

01:11:49.000 It was like word of mouth.

01:11:51.000 Pretty amazing.

01:11:52.000 And so, but the common through line of moral movements is always people that knew the truth that did something about the truth.

01:12:00.000 Let me say that again.

01:12:01.000 It's people that knew it that did something about it.

01:12:03.000 Let me tell you the type of Christianity that I am lovingly trying to change.

01:12:10.000 I call it run the hills Christianity. 0.66

01:12:12.000 We got the truth. 1.00

01:12:13.000 We'll see you when this whole thing is over and just eat us last.

01:12:18.000 Thank you.

01:12:18.000 Goodbye.

01:12:19.000 Like, no, not going to work.

01:12:22.000 We're called to be salt and light, occupied till I come.

01:12:24.000 If you are not paying the price for Christ, you're not in the arena.

01:12:28.000 And it's the man in the arena that counts.

01:12:30.000 So thank you for your question.

01:12:31.000 Next month.

01:12:33.000 All right.

01:12:34.000 We'll do two more.

01:12:35.000 One here, one there, and then we got to go wrap it.

01:12:38.000 Hey, Charlie, actually, that hotel right on Scottson Road, I graduated from SHAP, which is a Scottsdale School, and I did not wear a mask when I graduated, just FY.

01:12:47.000 But my question is about, I'm very blessed I get to go to college this coming year.

01:12:53.000 And what do you think is like the most important thing for folks my age in college to focus on?

01:12:58.000 Like, would it be history or like taking like theology classes?

01:13:02.000 Like, what's the focus that we ought to have to be this movement, to help continue this momentum?

01:13:09.000 Where are you going to school?

01:13:10.000 Hampton, Sydney, Farmville, Virginia.

01:13:12.000 Cool.

01:13:12.000 So what are you studying?

01:13:13.000 Well, history, religion.

01:13:15.000 I'm kind of asking you what you think is more important to me.

01:13:17.000 No, I mean, so look.

01:13:19.000 Well, I mean, you know what I'm saying.

01:13:21.000 Here's the piece of advice I have, which is pursue things that never change.

01:13:25.000 Pursue things that will be true when you're 100 years old.

01:13:29.000 You see, the Academy doesn't teach that stuff anymore.

01:13:31.000 They teach things that are like, oh, we're so postmodernly enlightened.

01:13:34.000 No, you're not.

01:13:35.000 Go read and it's just go seek wisdom, which of course isn't rooted in the Bible, which is basically a diagnosis of how human beings act, human nature, and things that explain how the world works.

01:13:47.000 So we do two hours of study a day on our podcast.

01:13:50.000 90 minutes of my study is dedicated to things that do not change.

01:13:53.000 Then 30 minutes, I like read the news and like whatever, because I just kind of find that to be some, but the 90 minutes is what explains what's currently happening.

01:14:02.000 So for example, a good thing that you could wrestle with for the next 100 years of your life is what is the good?

01:14:08.000 How do I achieve it?

01:14:09.000 Has a society ever achieved it?

01:14:11.000 And what does it mean to have things objectively beautiful and full of wonder?

01:14:16.000 That'll keep you busy for about 10 years.

01:14:18.000 Just that little statement.

01:14:19.000 And by the way, that used to be how education used to be.

01:14:23.000 It used to be we'd get a bunch of 18-year-olds who think they know everything.

01:14:26.000 And you'd say, so why are you here?

01:14:28.000 I'm here to improve myself.

01:14:29.000 Eventually it gets down to this idea.

01:14:30.000 I'm here to do good.

01:14:31.000 That's eventually what eventually it boils down to.

01:14:33.000 Okay, what is the good?

01:14:35.000 And their eyes like, welcome to college.

01:14:37.000 That's how it used to be.

01:14:39.000 And you'd almost tease an 18-year-old.

01:14:41.000 You'd almost want to bring them along and say, okay, now that we got you interested, here's the 5,000 things you got to do to get even close to knowing kind of almost what that is.

01:14:50.000 Now, college, and I don't know the specific college, now college is the opposite.

01:14:55.000 Now it goes down and says there is no truth, there is no beauty, there is no wonder, there is no God.

01:15:00.000 We're nothing but a bunch of cells in a collision course.

01:15:03.000 All there is is pleasure and death.

01:15:05.000 And what's the use of even being here anymore?

01:15:08.000 And we're going to find a way to try to find some meaning in the midst of all this nothingness.

01:15:12.000 That explains basically half the country, right?

01:15:15.000 So my advice for you is you go to college, pursue the things that never change.

01:15:19.000 And in four years from now, you can explain what is beautiful, wondrous, and good.

01:15:24.000 I'll give you a little bit of a hint.

01:15:25.000 This entire church is centered around worshiping what is beautiful, wondrous, and good.

01:15:29.000 You will have had a good four years.

01:15:31.000 Thank you.

01:15:32.000 Okay, the last question.

01:15:33.000 I apologize, guys.

01:15:35.000 I wish I could get some more.

01:15:36.000 Might take one after that.

01:15:38.000 But yeah, see?

01:15:39.000 You did a pivot.

01:15:39.000 Go ahead.

01:15:40.000 You never know.

01:15:41.000 Go ahead.

01:15:42.000 So I'm going to try to make this real fast, but I'm going into my senior year of high school.

01:15:46.000 What I said.

01:15:46.000 And Horizon and the PVUSD.

01:15:50.000 So how can I, as a senior, like combat these different opinions that go on their own, like racial or critical race theory and stuff like that?

01:16:01.000 How do we as students actually make a difference?

01:16:05.000 So can you just give me some examples of some of the things that are being just, you know, you don't have to if you don't want to.

01:16:10.000 So like all the mask things are critical race theory, that's a pretty big one.

01:16:16.000 Or like what school is this?

01:16:17.000 Horizon.

01:16:18.000 Where is that?

01:16:19.000 Is that 56 and Paradise Valley?

01:16:22.000 Yes.

01:16:25.000 Oh, okay.

01:16:28.000 So they're teaching critical race theory in Paradise Valley?

01:16:32.000 Not yet.

01:16:34.000 I'm just interested.

01:16:35.000 Okay, sorry, go ahead.

01:16:36.000 Not yet, but they're pushing it.

01:16:39.000 Okay.

01:16:40.000 Yeah, that's bizarre.

01:16:42.000 Okay, sorry, continue.

01:16:44.000 So how do we as students make a difference in that?

01:16:48.000 Yeah, so first of all, thank you for your willingness to want to do it.

01:16:52.000 Here's the tough part: they have a secret weapon and they're willing to use it all the time and always.

01:16:58.000 They have a paralytic that gets us to all of a sudden stop and back away, like puts us in like a paralyzed foot passion.

01:17:07.000 They're willing to call anything that gets in their way a racist.

01:17:11.000 And it's a very, very effective weapon.

01:17:14.000 It's the most powerful one right now in American politics.

01:17:16.000 Too bad because there are real racists out there.

01:17:19.000 Of course there are.

01:17:20.000 And when everything is something, then nothing is something.

01:17:22.000 Remember that.

01:17:23.000 Where's my guy that just asked me a question?

01:17:25.000 That's wisdom.

01:17:26.000 When everything is something, nothing is something, right?

01:17:28.000 And that's true, right?

01:17:29.000 All of a sudden, when everything becomes labeled that, then there's no nuance, and then it just becomes this kind of blanket of generalization and this broad stroke of nothingness.

01:17:36.000 So I just want to say, be prepared anytime you stand up against this stuff, be called those things, and be able to navigate that.

01:17:43.000 We can help you with that.

01:17:44.000 The second thing is you have to gauge how much you're willing to sacrifice as coming a senior into Horizon High School.

01:17:52.000 Every kid has a different answer to this.

01:17:54.000 Every parent has an answer to this.

01:17:56.000 The real question is: what are the parents doing about this at your school?

01:17:59.000 I don't know if they're doing anything because that's really, they have very little to lose, you would think.

01:18:05.000 But I will tell you this: nothing matters more than the development of your character at your current age.

01:18:12.000 Now, character is formed in moments of pressure.

01:18:17.000 Pressure creates good people.

01:18:19.000 Let me reiterate this again.

01:18:20.000 Pressure creates good people, or it creates frameworks where you can then correct your behavior, and then you're able to teach ethics in those situations.

01:18:29.000 One of the reasons we have a crisis of goodness in education is we have no more pressure.

01:18:34.000 There's no grades, turning it whenever you want to.

01:18:36.000 There's no accountability.

01:18:38.000 We don't keep score at sports.

01:18:39.000 You remove pressure, all of a sudden that kind of framework for the betterment disappears.

01:18:44.000 So with that being said, character comes from the Greek word imprint or tattoo.

01:18:49.000 You're going to have to ask yourselves the question, what is it deep down, the character that I, the person I want to be, what would I do in a situation like this?

01:18:55.000 Should I ask my teacher these questions?

01:18:57.000 Should I petition the school board?

01:18:58.000 Should I go all of a sudden get parents organized?

01:19:00.000 That's up for you to decide.

01:19:02.000 But I'll tell you this.

01:19:04.000 The more you do in the embodiment of what we talk about with love and with truth and grace and mercy will have a lasting positive impact on you for the rest of your life.

01:19:14.000 Now, you might get graded down.

01:19:16.000 You might have bad things said about you on social media.

01:19:19.000 But all of a sudden, that pressure, the sickness in your stomach, the sleepless nights, the accusations from parents, that will all of a sudden create you to have the maturity of a 50-year-old at 18.

01:19:29.000 And all of a sudden, you'll be like, you know what?

01:19:31.000 I learned about the proper way to navigate opposition when I was in high school, when they decided to throw everything I possibly could at Horizon High School.

01:19:39.000 And all of a sudden, you become that person.

01:19:42.000 I think the greatest person in the 20th century was Winston Churchill.

01:19:46.000 Now, what made Churchill so great?

01:19:48.000 Boy, did he screw up a lot before the most important moment.

01:19:51.000 Seriously.

01:19:52.000 Troop movements, battles, wars, communication lines on hero.

01:19:56.000 And he said his whole life was a series of pressure-filled moments that led up to the moments of when he became prime minister.

01:20:05.000 He met with the king privately.

01:20:06.000 And yes, I am comparing you to Winston Churchill, just so you know.

01:20:09.000 So no pressure.

01:20:10.000 So he met with the king, and basically they couldn't form a government. 0.64

01:20:14.000 And the king said, I want you to put down on a list of paper everyone that you think can become prime minister to form a government to stop the Nazis because they were bombing the English channel.

01:20:25.000 And he said, oh boy.

01:20:27.000 Okay.

01:20:28.000 He left parliament and he wrote this in his diaries, according to his historian Sir Martin Gilbert, with the weight of the world on his shoulders because he knew no matter who he put on that piece of paper, the real answer was going to be him.

01:20:40.000 And he said in his private journals that every moment from a time he was in college as a boy in the infantry, in the army, as a biographic or an author of 50 books led him to that moment.

01:20:52.000 Every moment of when the pressure came down and he learned who he was and how to operate and how to act.

01:20:56.000 So what I'm getting at is that you need to ask yourself the question at 17, which is tough.

01:21:02.000 What kind of person do I want to be?

01:21:04.000 And if it's a person that just thinks the ultimate value is getting good grades, that might be an answer.

01:21:09.000 That might be your answer, then don't do anything.

01:21:12.000 If the most important thing in your life is getting good grades, my advice is do nothing.

01:21:17.000 Seriously.

01:21:18.000 Get A's and run away.

01:21:21.000 But if your answer is that you want to live a full and complete life in the pursuit of truth, then you got to do something.

01:21:28.000 And that's for you to decide.

01:21:29.000 So God bless you, man.

01:21:30.000 Thanks for being here tonight.

01:21:32.000 All right.

01:21:34.000 Want to do one more?

01:21:35.000 Right here.

01:21:36.000 You waited so patiently.

01:21:39.000 First of all, congrats on the marriage.

01:21:41.000 Thank you.

01:21:42.000 I recommend all young people to get married early and have lots of children. 0.99

01:21:45.000 Do not believe the secular life. 0.95

01:21:47.000 I got to wait.

01:21:47.000 No.

01:21:48.000 Find someone that believes in the Lord and is saved by Jesus Christ and loves America and get married.

01:21:53.000 Okay, thank you.

01:21:54.000 So true.

01:21:58.000 Angels like laughing.

01:21:59.000 So yeah. 0.55

01:22:00.000 So my question is, what's your opinion on churches having pride flags outside and how do you approach something like that?

01:22:07.000 I'm not a fan of that, obviously. 0.51

01:22:10.000 Yeah, so look, I'm very clear of what marriage is, one man, one woman. 0.68

01:22:15.000 And I've said that.

01:22:16.000 We have gay people that work for us at Turning Point USA.

01:22:19.000 Some of the most lovely, wonderful people.

01:22:20.000 Some of my best friends are gay.

01:22:22.000 Rick Rinnell, who's a very courageous, good person, is one example.

01:22:26.000 And boy, if all of a sudden the church becomes like an advertising arm of something that is so clearly defined as distance from God, I'm perplexed by that.

01:22:36.000 I really am.

01:22:37.000 And so I don't know what kind of virtue signaling that kind of is, but I do have an idea, actually.

01:22:41.000 And it kind of struck me when I was driving through Seattle.

01:22:44.000 When I was driving through Seattle and I spoke at one of these churches, and a lot of churches had the BLM flag and the gay pride flag.

01:22:51.000 And I asked the guy driving me around, I said, why do they have this?

01:22:54.000 He said, oh, they won't get burned down or they won't get rioted or they won't get picketed.

01:22:58.000 I said, oh, it hit me at that moment.

01:23:00.000 I said, this is the modern day equivalent of blood over the door in ancient Egypt.

01:23:09.000 This is the modern day equivalent. 0.96

01:23:11.000 You guys know exactly what I'm talking about: that the blood over the door, the first foreign doesn't get killed. 0.95

01:23:16.000 That's what this is. 0.97

01:23:18.000 Like, don't audit me.

01:23:19.000 Don't tax me.

01:23:20.000 Don't criticize me.

01:23:22.000 Don't talk to me.

01:23:23.000 I got the flag.

01:23:24.000 We're part of your whole deal.

01:23:28.000 It's not about getting rid of churches.

01:23:30.000 It's about getting rid of churches they don't like that are disagreeable.

01:23:33.000 They want churches they can control.

01:23:35.000 So I look, I am very clear on what biblical marriage is.

01:23:38.000 I'm also one that believes that we should be very clear and loving to people that have that lifestyle.

01:23:46.000 And I am, and we are at Turning Point USA.

01:23:48.000 As I said, they're some of my best friends in the world.

01:23:50.000 But I don't think we should ever waver on the truth and what that is.

01:23:53.000 And let me say this: I know a lot of people that are gay, that are disgusted with the conflation of the gay issue with the transgender issue. 0.72

01:24:01.000 And their intention, the movement seems to try to put them together. 0.51

01:24:06.000 But look, as soon as you draw distance from God, we know where that goes and we know the pattern that then manifests itself.

01:24:12.000 So, look, I think the most important thing that a church should have is a big cross at the highest possible point that everyone can see.

01:24:22.000 And then, if they need to fly any flag, it says in Jeremiah very clearly to pray and demand for the welfare, the peace, the shalom of the city and the nation of which you are in, because that welfare is your welfare.

01:24:35.000 So, I perfectly support an American flag outside of every church as long as it's not higher than the cross that flies above it.

01:24:41.000 Thank you.

01:24:47.000 So, we had a lot of fun tonight.

01:24:50.000 Action steps.

01:24:51.000 There's a couple school board meetings coming up.

01:24:53.000 I think there one might be tomorrow in Chandler at 6:30.

01:24:57.000 And know your stuff, and we'll see what happens.

01:25:00.000 Scottsdale, if they ever decide to have another meeting, go with love, truth, clarity.

01:25:07.000 And we're keeping an eye on that.

01:25:08.000 We got 30 days if you guys are interested in any of those action items on the state level here in Arizona.

01:25:13.000 And more than anything else, look around.

01:25:15.000 This thing is growing, everybody.

01:25:16.000 This thing inspires action.

01:25:18.000 This thing inspires knowledge.

01:25:20.000 Information is everything.

01:25:21.000 So, I know it's the heat of the summer, but it'll be so cool July 13th to pack this thing up again, bring friends.

01:25:31.000 I'm going to try to have more time for questions because that's what I really enjoy.

01:25:34.000 But, everybody, if you are like me, I'm going all in in Arizona. 1.00

01:25:38.000 I'm going all in to try to have Arizona alongside the Barnetts. 1.00

01:25:42.000 I love this state, everybody. 0.83

01:25:45.000 I have a special place in my heart for this.

01:25:48.000 I got married here.

01:25:48.000 I met my wife here.

01:25:50.000 I want to have children here.

01:25:51.000 And I want one thing, everybody, that I don't have to flee.

01:25:55.000 I want one thing that all of a sudden can take a turnaround and come back, as Pastor Luke would say, back to biblical truth and things that are eternal.

01:26:03.000 And it starts with that little piece of wood because the small things are the big things.

01:26:10.000 God bless you guys.

01:26:11.000 This is a lot of fun tonight.

01:26:12.000 Thank you so much.

01:26:16.000 Thanks so much, everybody.

01:26:17.000 Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:26:20.000 God bless.

01:26:20.000 Talk to you soon.

01:26:25.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 27, 2021

How the Small Things Become the Big Things — Charlie Kirk LIVE from Freedom Square

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