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00:00:01.000Amber Athy joins us about her latest book on how the media was taken over by woke millennials and Kaylin from Frontlines Turning Point USA Project who was assaulted in Sacramento.
00:00:11.000We talk about the sophistication, the coordination of Antifa.
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00:01:11.000I've seen several instances of Antifa, the paramilitary organization and the shock troops of the Democrat Party out in the streets recently.
00:02:47.000We got there to the Capitol, and I want to say that things like this, this happened.
00:02:56.000But the main thing is that Chloe Cole was having a speech and trying to raise awareness for teach transitioners.
00:03:05.000And that, I think, is the most important thing that went on that day.
00:03:10.000However, we arrived to the Capitol in about two minutes after being there.
00:03:16.000I couldn't even get through my initial introduction before someone came up with a miniature Louisville slugger and destroyed my camera's man, my cameraman's lens.
00:03:28.000Luckily, Charlie Paxiao is a pro and he was able to fix it and we were able to keep going.
00:03:46.000And I personally haven't seen a group like this that has been this aggressive and violent in a while.
00:03:57.000So that was kind of surprising because normally, you know, they march in the streets and they try to shout people down and they threaten people.
00:04:05.000But today, or excuse me, that day they had quite a few guys striking, you know, moving behind the barriers that they have up.
00:04:18.000They hold, you know, flags and they hold banners and they really create a wall of bodies with shields.
00:04:26.000guys who were brave enough to come out and start striking and assaulting people.
00:04:31.000The man whose head was split open right above his eye, he's bleeding profusely, but he said, yeah, it was just standing on the on the sidewalk.
00:04:39.000So it was anyone who even was just getting near them was getting attacked.
00:05:12.000So can you just kind of, I mean, the video is very chilling, but, you know, Antifa, first of all, the media doesn't, they act as if it doesn't exist.
00:05:21.000We obviously see it's real, but they're moving almost as if they've rehearsed this and or trained with this, right?
00:05:27.000I mean, this is kind of a sloppy analogy, but it feels as if it's like the Vikings from the Last Kingdom, kind of like they move together in sequence with shields, and then they open up and somebody comes with a bat and slams you in the face.
00:05:40.000This is not exactly a group of amateurs.
00:05:43.000I mean, these are people that seem as if they've trained or they've gone through several hours, if not dozens of hours of practice to do this.
00:06:00.000And I've looked at some of their documentation that they hand out when they're organizing.
00:06:11.000And a lot of it does talk about there being different affinity groups with people who serve different roles when they're doing that.
00:06:20.000It goes down the line all the way from shields, scouts, people who gather information, people who strike.
00:06:29.000And when they strike, they come out from behind the row of shields and then they come back in.
00:06:36.000And a lot of it actually could be drawn from law enforcement.
00:06:43.000I was talking with Brian Harpole, and he was explaining to me that a lot of that is what they do when they're trying to manage riots and large crowds.
00:06:57.000Yeah, I mean, I want to just play some B-roll here.
00:07:25.000You mentioned something that's very interesting, Kaylin, what they were getting worked up over.
00:07:29.000So Chloe, who we've had on this program, is a detransitioner.
00:07:34.000Why on earth would Antifa dress up in military gear with weapons and go to the streets in the middle of broad daylight to protest somebody who's detransitioning?
00:07:48.000The fact of the matter is they hate that anyone has A detransition experience after they've been indoctrinated.
00:07:58.000It's almost like someone who becomes a Christian.
00:08:03.000In the same way, detransitioning provides a huge window into the world of indoctrination, into the world of medical abuse against children and even adults.
00:08:22.000And I think one of the big points that was made earlier at the Detransition Awareness Day was that there are so many people who are struggling mentally or physically, and they're diagnosed with dysphoria and this medical industry instead of providing some higher standard of care than just making sure people don't commit suicide.
00:08:52.000A lot of the Antifa will say, you know, there's a trans genocide going on and there's trans suicides happening every day.
00:09:01.000And if you don't give these kids, you know, hormone blockers or testosterone or some sort of mutilation surgery, that they're going to commit suicide.
00:09:12.000And so it seems as though the medical industry is pushing this idea and the schools are teaching this sort of indoctrination where you can, you know, magically be something other than what you actually are.
00:09:29.000And the most important messages spoken that day were very powerful.
00:09:38.000It really was listening to Chloe Cole.
00:09:40.000I've heard her speak before, but every time it is emotional because, you know, as a Christian and just as a human being, like my heart breaks for that sort of thing.
00:09:51.000Yeah, and it makes you wonder why it is that Antifa has in broad daylight on a weekend, obviously being funded by somebody or something.
00:10:00.000The federal government has not done the proper investigations here.
00:10:03.000This is not going to, if there was the next Republican administration, they need to do a RICO case into Antifa, isolate 10 or 20 of these guys that have been arrested, go through their bank accounts, follow their cell phone activity, do it all through warrants with a warrant to do it the right way, find out where they've been meeting, find their pings, find out the ringleader, isolate it, and then be able to do a real national organization.
00:10:24.000These are not a lot of, there's not a lot of people nationally.
00:10:26.000There's probably 2,000, 2,500 of them in Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Sacramento, Los Angeles, obviously Atlanta, D.C., Chicago.
00:10:36.000They use the umbrellas to hide identities.
00:10:39.000They all move in the same sort of harmony because I think that people underestimate the sophistication of how Antifa moves and really what is behind them.
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00:12:16.000Well, I've learned that there is different roles that these groups play.
00:12:23.000And typically, there is a loose idea of where they want to go, but the idea is that they move fluidly and they sort of right, they have their it's hard to say, Charlie.
00:12:38.000It's hard, it's hard to say who is the leader when they all look the same and they're obfuscating their identities with black block.
00:12:45.000Um, surely there is certain roles designated to how they're going to move down the street.
00:12:55.000Uh, I do think there is, I do think there is a leader when it comes to these individual groups that organize these direct actions.
00:13:04.000Uh, it's just hard to say who those might those people might be in the moment, and they're they're mercilessly violent.
00:13:12.000We saw what they did in Georgia where they went after the cop city, which was a training facility for police officers, and they firebombed it and they committed arson, a majority of which the people who did that were not arrested and were not held accountable.
00:13:26.000And I mean, their intent is disruption, their intent is violence.
00:13:30.000The ideology that drives them is kind of more anarchism at times than it is even leftism, but it certainly is a hatred of you and I, of Christians, of conservatives.
00:13:44.000There is a nastiness, there is a venom, there is almost a fervor for revolution.
00:13:49.000What bothers me the most, though, is that the cops seem more interested in crowd controlling them than actually arresting them.
00:16:12.000I think the trans issue is a serious, a seriously grotesque attack on America's youth.
00:16:21.000And I think that is why they're so vehemently against anyone who opposes it, because it's something that directly destroys the future of the United States.
00:16:33.000If they can strike fear into anyone who wants to speak out against the absolutely bizarre things that these kids are being taught and that they believe about reality and themselves and what medicine is and what it isn't and what treatment should look like and what it shouldn't look like, they're going to do that.
00:16:55.000If they can put you in the hospital for standing up against this agenda that seeks to destroy our youth and corrupt their minds, then they'll do it 100 times over and laugh in your face.
00:18:54.000How did woke millennials hijack American media?
00:18:57.000I think the premise of this book is really that conservatives got it so wrong about five years ago when we looked at the craziness that was happening on college campuses and we said these snowflakes are going to enter the real world and they'll just melt because they're not going to be able to hack it.
00:19:13.000Their employers aren't going to give them safe spaces or trigger warnings and they're going to have to learn to adapt or die.
00:19:19.000Well, what happened instead is that it turns out much of the American corporate space and particularly the mainstream media were both sympathetic to these college students and also totally unprepared for the onslaught that was going to come to their doorsteps.
00:19:34.000And these so-called snowflakes entered the real world and have used the same campus tactics, mob tactics, public shaming, internal revolts, and overall cancellation attempts to completely wrest power from the institutions that they've now taken over.
00:19:54.000And they've influenced the media in such a way that the reporting that we see is further left than ever before.
00:20:00.000I have been told, though, by boomers that kids get more conservative once they leave college and college is liberal, but it's not as if they bring their ideas with them.
00:20:11.000I've always found this to be preposterous.
00:20:12.000I wrote a whole book on it, that what happens on college campuses doesn't stay on college campuses.
00:20:17.000It'll influence corporate boardrooms and then the halls of Congress.
00:20:22.000In media, have you seen that same phenomenon?
00:20:24.000Have you seen these media companies come more like college newspapers and not the other way around?
00:20:31.000I completely agree with your read on the situation.
00:20:34.000The idea that all of these people are having a come to Jesus moment and this aha moment of conversion in terms of their political ideology is completely ridiculous.
00:20:44.000If this were happening on such a wide scale, considering just how many progressives go through the university system, it would be an absolute spectacle.
00:20:52.000I mean, we'd be reading about it every single day, but that's not what happens.
00:20:55.000These people do carry these views with them and they use them to influence the mainstream media companies.
00:21:02.000I did a deep dive on several different outlets, including the Washington Post, the New York Times, Politico, The Hill.
00:21:09.000And it's quite clear that they have been hiring reporters or activists disguised as reporters for the past five to 10 years.
00:21:18.000And eventually they created such a large group of them that they've banded together and they've been able to completely influence the editorial line.
00:21:28.000Just recently, one of the excerpts from my book, I obtained an exclusive copy of Politico's style guide.
00:21:35.000And the style guide is just unbelievable political propaganda from left-wing activists.
00:21:40.000You're not allowed to say terms like biological sex or biological man.
00:21:45.000You're not allowed to say things like identifies as because you're denying a trans person's existence.
00:21:50.000You're not allowed to say illegal alien, which is a legal term used by the Department of Homeland Security.
00:21:56.000So that influences every single thing that you read in a news outlet.
00:22:01.000Yeah, this list of examples you have here, and again, for untrained eyes, you don't always catch this.
00:22:08.000And so here's a great example that you have in your book.
00:22:12.000Politico organized a staff-wide seminar with a queer activist group.
00:22:18.000Amber, when I grew up, queer was a slur.
00:22:21.000I guess now it is something that people like calling themselves.
00:22:27.000That warned staffers how they were allowed to write about the LGBTQ plus community.
00:22:34.000As you mentioned, the new style guide was issued to Politico reporters that remove all gender language from articles and dropped the descriptive terms like chain migration or late-term abortion.
00:22:45.000This is not even in story selection or in kind of bigger picture bias.
00:22:51.000We're talking about vocabulary policing that has now set into media.
00:22:59.000And this is very insidious, Charlie, because I think when we look at things like story selection or the headlines that are chosen, people can see that bias pretty clearly.
00:23:09.000But when they're actually controlling language, they're controlling the way that you think.
00:23:14.000The way that we understand concepts and issues is intrinsically linked to the vocabulary that we use, the words that we're allowed to use.
00:23:25.000If you're learning a new language, you think in English, for example, and then you translate the word to whatever language you're trying to learn, let's say Spanish.
00:23:35.000It takes a long time before you get comfortable and fluent enough to immediately think of the concept in Spanish without doing that translation in your head.
00:23:43.000That's how powerful language is in the way that we, in the way that we think.
00:23:47.000And so by these people controlling the words that are used in newspapers and in news stories, they're directly controlling the way the readers understand those concepts.
00:23:59.000And then also just removing the truth and watering it down ever so slightly.
00:24:05.000I mean, another example here is just kind of in the you can't use chain migration.
00:24:16.000And all this happens without the reader ever realizing it.
00:24:19.000It is Orwellian, very slow-motion changes that are supposed to alter your mind.
00:24:26.000The Hill launched a new editorial project in 19 called Changing America, supposedly centrist.
00:24:34.000The first news outlet to use activist-created, quote, don't say gay nickname in a headline and published alarmist and alarmist propaganda about climate change.
00:24:46.000Washington Post attempted to cancel a pro-fossil fuels philosopher and author over a two-decade-old blog post from college.
00:24:54.000You say here the New York Times throughout the editorial staff behind the Tom Cotton op-ed after repeatedly defending left-wing employees who brought bad PR to the paper.
00:25:05.000And so, I mean, we can go on and on and on about this, but where are the adult editors that tell them to kind of go pound sand?
00:25:14.000That's the really sad part about all of this is if somebody just had the courage to stand up and say no against the mob, then none of this would be happening.
00:25:25.000But I think a big part of the problem is that because newsrooms for so many years have become increasingly liberal, that there's not only a lot of sympathy for these woke activists, but there's also a great fear of them because I think they understand just how powerful these people can be.
00:25:41.000I mean, if you're a left-wing boomer, being called a racist is the worst thing that can happen to you.
00:25:58.000And now it's lobbied against anyone who doesn't tow the progressive orthodoxy.
00:26:02.000And so I think these newsroom leaders are really just trying to prevent any accusations against their character.
00:26:08.000And they think by appeasing the mob that they're going to get them on their side.
00:26:12.000But instead, what they're doing is incentivizing them to continue their ridiculous cancellation attempts and public PR smears of the organizations that they work for.
00:26:21.000Yeah, I mean, that's really important.
00:26:23.000And it used to be that calling a racist was almost paralyzing.
00:26:29.000I mean, I get people that are 60 plus all the time.
00:27:15.000I don't see major investigations going into any of these left-wing causes.
00:27:19.000In the journalist pool in D.C., what are you seeing?
00:27:22.000I would say that media has become more fractured.
00:27:25.000You see a bigger divide between conservative media, as it's called, or independent media, and the mainstream media.
00:27:33.000And the mainstream media is getting rid of the sort of old-fashioned liberals who still kind of understood journalistic ethics because anyone who stands in the way of this attempt to reshape the newsrooms in the views of the left-wing activists are no longer allowed to be there.
00:27:52.000That's why you see people like Barry Weiss, Matt Taibbi, and some of these other classically liberal or left-leaning individuals systematically leaving the mainstream media because there's no room for any attempt at unbiased journalism or even just kind of left-leaning investigative journalism.
00:28:10.000I mean, that used to be kind of acceptable, but now it's become so awash with just progressive idealism and a complete reshaping of what journalism even means.
00:28:20.000I mean, in this politico meeting with the queer activists that you mentioned before, one of the things that was said by Kate Sozin, who is with a left-wing queer activist group, was that you're not allowed to report on both sides of the transgender issue because that would be considered a violation of journalistic ethics.
00:28:42.000And in her view, journalistic ethics means standing on behalf of the downtrodden.
00:28:47.000Whereas we like to think of it as, you know, going in search of the truth.
00:28:51.000And what's so warped about this entire concept of fighting on behalf of the downtrodden is that these people aren't the downtrodden.
00:28:58.000Journalists, for one, are some of the most powerful people in society.
00:29:02.000They have mega platforms that they can use to shape public debate.
00:29:11.000And the minority groups that they claim to be giving a voice to because they're so voiceless are also people with immense power.
00:29:19.000They benefit in all kinds of ways from affirmative action programs.
00:29:23.000You're not allowed to criticize them because, again, you will be accused of being any type of bigot.
00:29:29.000They have massive amounts of funding from left-wing billionaires for their pet projects.
00:29:33.000I mean, the idea that these are people who lack any kind of institutional power is a complete backwards view of what American society actually is right now.
00:29:45.000Believing you are a victim then gives you a moral license to victimize.
00:29:49.000And far too often, we have people that have been told they're victims their entire life, and then they actually become the tyrants that they think they are opposing.
00:30:30.000Zero evidence to believe that somehow they get more conservative as they get older, especially with this new ideology that takes very deep roots.
00:30:37.000So, Amber, how do we go about fixing this?
00:31:27.000Now, the other thing is that conservatives need to stop playing the game of the mainstream media.
00:31:33.000And what I mean by that is that you will constantly see Republicans on Capitol Hill giving scoops and stories and press releases and interviews to mainstream media.
00:32:23.000Is that because some of these older folks still have some sort of, I mean, they actually think this rag matters, this right here, the New York Times?
00:32:33.000They sort of have this nostalgia for when these were the papers of record and they sort of want that perceived prestige or legacy.
00:32:41.000But I tell this story in the book of when I was the White House correspondent for the Daily Caller and there was an instance where we were all members of the press across the spectrum were invited in for briefings on immigration.
00:32:58.000And in one of the briefings, it was all conservative media members who were invited into the upper press part of the White House.
00:33:07.000And as we're waiting in line, these other reporters come walking up from CBS and CNN.
00:33:14.000And they're trying to almost sneak their way into this background briefing.
00:33:18.000And I think it just spoke to how entitled these members of the media are, where they really think that they're entitled to access, even though they continuously lie about people who disagree with them.
00:33:29.000And I mean, to the Trump administration's credit, at that time, they had pushed these people out.
00:33:34.000But then the next week, I think it was a week after CNN had published an incredibly egregious hit job on the president, they were inviting CNN White House correspondents once again up into upper press for background briefings.
00:33:49.000And I just wanted to shake them and say, why are you constantly rewarding bad behavior?
00:33:55.000I mean, you have the power to decide who really gets access.
00:33:58.000And if you keep giving them access, they're going to keep doing exactly the same thing that they've been doing.
00:34:03.000There was that kind of fight over Acosta's press credentials and all that.
00:34:08.000But the point that was never covered, in my opinion, you don't have to call on him.
00:34:13.000And so, I mean, I think you should be able to revoke press credentials of whoever you want because they do that to OAN and they did it to whatever.
00:34:21.000And you certainly get to choose which media, especially what conservative media, you could break exclusive stories to, cabinet pics and all that stuff.
00:34:29.000And I see this with senators all the time.
00:34:32.000Senators all the time are like, oh, Washington Post this and New York Times that.
00:34:41.000And I mean, it's almost as if where, you know, these Republicans like, well, if we show the Washington Post that we're fair, they'll reward us.
00:34:49.000I mean, and the RNC, I mean, the RNC is buddy-buddy with the CNN and MSNBC.
00:34:57.000Well, look, and the same thing happened with the New York Times, where people will say, well, we want our stuff published in the New York Times because we'll be able to change hearts and minds.
00:35:06.000Well, the people who read the New York Times are canceling subscriptions when they see Republican names in their pages.
00:35:12.000Those are not the people that you're going to convince to your point of view.
00:35:16.000And just as someone who's, again, been in the White House, there's a huge difference between having a hard pass and being there every day and actually getting access to the administration.
00:35:24.000So there's ways to do this that are completely legal and absolutely have to happen in order for us to delegitimize the mainstream media.
00:35:31.000Check out Amber's latest book, It's Important, The Snowflakes Revolt: How Woke Millennials Hijacked American Media.