The Charlie Kirk Show - How the Snowflakes Took Over Media with Amber Athey and Kalen D'Almeida

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00:00:01.000 Amber Athy joins us about her latest book on how the media was taken over by woke millennials and Kaylin from Frontlines Turning Point USA Project who was assaulted in Sacramento.

00:00:11.000 We talk about the sophistication, the coordination of Antifa.

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00:01:11.000 I've seen several instances of Antifa, the paramilitary organization and the shock troops of the Democrat Party out in the streets recently.

00:01:19.000 And I saw them in Chicago.

00:01:22.000 We saw them, our frontlines team did an amazing job at Turning Point USA capturing them in Sacramento.

00:01:29.000 But I encourage all of you to watch some of this footage.

00:01:32.000 The Antifa, they move this, they move in the streets with almost kind of military precision.

00:01:40.000 They use the same sort of tactics, the same sort of violent intimidation.

00:01:46.000 And one of our frontlines journalists, very brave man, Kaelin Dalameda, was assaulted.

00:01:55.000 And we're going to show you that footage.

00:01:56.000 Kaylin, welcome to the program.

00:01:58.000 You're doing a great job.

00:01:59.000 I want to play cut 20 of some of the footage that was Kaelin right on the front lines.

00:02:05.000 He got assaulted by Antifa while the police stood there and did nothing.

00:02:08.000 Play cut 20.

00:02:26.000 Get this called up.

00:02:27.000 They're in an ambulance.

00:02:28.000 Can you hold pressure to your head, please?

00:02:30.000 Hold pressure.

00:02:30.000 Where is it?

00:02:30.000 Hold pressure to the wound.

00:02:32.000 Where's it?

00:02:33.000 I don't know where I'm going.

00:02:36.000 Can we replay the video, please?

00:02:38.000 Let's just replay 20.

00:02:40.000 All right.

00:02:40.000 Kaylin is with us.

00:02:41.000 Kaylin, walk us through what happened when you were in Sacramento.

00:02:45.000 Sure.

00:02:47.000 We got there to the Capitol, and I want to say that things like this, this happened. 0.72

00:02:56.000 But the main thing is that Chloe Cole was having a speech and trying to raise awareness for teach transitioners.

00:03:05.000 And that, I think, is the most important thing that went on that day.

00:03:10.000 However, we arrived to the Capitol in about two minutes after being there.

00:03:16.000 I couldn't even get through my initial introduction before someone came up with a miniature Louisville slugger and destroyed my camera's man, my cameraman's lens.

00:03:28.000 Luckily, Charlie Paxiao is a pro and he was able to fix it and we were able to keep going.

00:03:37.000 So I'm really thankful for that.

00:03:38.000 But they were incredibly aggressive just right off the start.

00:03:43.000 There may have been 75 plus of them.

00:03:46.000 And I personally haven't seen a group like this that has been this aggressive and violent in a while.

00:03:57.000 So that was kind of surprising because normally, you know, they march in the streets and they try to shout people down and they threaten people.

00:04:05.000 But today, or excuse me, that day they had quite a few guys striking, you know, moving behind the barriers that they have up.

00:04:18.000 They hold, you know, flags and they hold banners and they really create a wall of bodies with shields.

00:04:24.000 But then they had.

00:04:26.000 guys who were brave enough to come out and start striking and assaulting people.

00:04:31.000 The man whose head was split open right above his eye, he's bleeding profusely, but he said, yeah, it was just standing on the on the sidewalk.

00:04:39.000 So it was anyone who even was just getting near them was getting attacked.

00:04:44.000 Yeah.

00:04:44.000 And so, I mean, I see the police, they just watched this happen.

00:04:47.000 Did anyone get arrested for the assaults?

00:04:50.000 I believe one person was arrested.

00:04:53.000 They moved them down the Capitol.

00:04:55.000 The police sort of, you know, with crowd control, right control, they moved that group westward away from the Capitol.

00:05:06.000 And I believe one person was arrested.

00:05:08.000 I don't have further details on that, but I do know one person was arrested.

00:05:12.000 Yeah.

00:05:12.000 So can you just kind of, I mean, the video is very chilling, but, you know, Antifa, first of all, the media doesn't, they act as if it doesn't exist.

00:05:20.000 They say it's not real.

00:05:21.000 We obviously see it's real, but they're moving almost as if they've rehearsed this and or trained with this, right?

00:05:27.000 I mean, this is kind of a sloppy analogy, but it feels as if it's like the Vikings from the Last Kingdom, kind of like they move together in sequence with shields, and then they open up and somebody comes with a bat and slams you in the face.

00:05:40.000 This is not exactly a group of amateurs.

00:05:43.000 I mean, these are people that seem as if they've trained or they've gone through several hours, if not dozens of hours of practice to do this.

00:05:52.000 Am I viewing this correctly?

00:05:54.000 Absolutely.

00:05:57.000 They do have parameter training.

00:06:00.000 And I've looked at some of their documentation that they hand out when they're organizing.

00:06:11.000 And a lot of it does talk about there being different affinity groups with people who serve different roles when they're doing that.

00:06:20.000 It goes down the line all the way from shields, scouts, people who gather information, people who strike.

00:06:29.000 And when they strike, they come out from behind the row of shields and then they come back in.

00:06:36.000 And a lot of it actually could be drawn from law enforcement.

00:06:43.000 I was talking with Brian Harpole, and he was explaining to me that a lot of that is what they do when they're trying to manage riots and large crowds.

00:06:57.000 Yeah, I mean, I want to just play some B-roll here.

00:07:00.000 We're playing that.

00:07:01.000 And these are stormtroopers.

00:07:03.000 They're actually going to be out in the streets for my visit tomorrow at University of California, Davis.

00:07:09.000 They're talking a very big game, and the police so far are doing a really good job.

00:07:14.000 We're very thankful for them.

00:07:16.000 They're anticipating over 100 to 150 police officers that are going to be deployed because I want to go talk about the Constitution.

00:07:24.000 I don't know.

00:07:25.000 You mentioned something that's very interesting, Kaylin, what they were getting worked up over.

00:07:29.000 So Chloe, who we've had on this program, is a detransitioner. 1.00

00:07:34.000 Why on earth would Antifa dress up in military gear with weapons and go to the streets in the middle of broad daylight to protest somebody who's detransitioning? 0.87

00:07:46.000 What's going on here?

00:07:48.000 The fact of the matter is they hate that anyone has A detransition experience after they've been indoctrinated.

00:07:58.000 It's almost like someone who becomes a Christian.

00:08:03.000 In the same way, detransitioning provides a huge window into the world of indoctrination, into the world of medical abuse against children and even adults.

00:08:22.000 And I think one of the big points that was made earlier at the Detransition Awareness Day was that there are so many people who are struggling mentally or physically, and they're diagnosed with dysphoria and this medical industry instead of providing some higher standard of care than just making sure people don't commit suicide.

00:08:52.000 A lot of the Antifa will say, you know, there's a trans genocide going on and there's trans suicides happening every day.

00:09:01.000 And if you don't give these kids, you know, hormone blockers or testosterone or some sort of mutilation surgery, that they're going to commit suicide.

00:09:12.000 And so it seems as though the medical industry is pushing this idea and the schools are teaching this sort of indoctrination where you can, you know, magically be something other than what you actually are.

00:09:29.000 And the most important messages spoken that day were very powerful.

00:09:36.000 It was a teary-eyed gathering.

00:09:38.000 It really was listening to Chloe Cole.

00:09:40.000 I've heard her speak before, but every time it is emotional because, you know, as a Christian and just as a human being, like my heart breaks for that sort of thing.

00:09:51.000 Yeah, and it makes you wonder why it is that Antifa has in broad daylight on a weekend, obviously being funded by somebody or something.

00:09:59.000 We don't know who.

00:10:00.000 The federal government has not done the proper investigations here.

00:10:03.000 This is not going to, if there was the next Republican administration, they need to do a RICO case into Antifa, isolate 10 or 20 of these guys that have been arrested, go through their bank accounts, follow their cell phone activity, do it all through warrants with a warrant to do it the right way, find out where they've been meeting, find their pings, find out the ringleader, isolate it, and then be able to do a real national organization.

00:10:24.000 These are not a lot of, there's not a lot of people nationally.

00:10:26.000 There's probably 2,000, 2,500 of them in Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Sacramento, Los Angeles, obviously Atlanta, D.C., Chicago.

00:10:35.000 But they all use the same tactics.

00:10:36.000 They use the umbrellas to hide identities.

00:10:39.000 They all move in the same sort of harmony because I think that people underestimate the sophistication of how Antifa moves and really what is behind them.

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00:12:03.000 Kaelin Delameda continues with us.

00:12:05.000 So, Kaelin, can you just explain to our audience how coordinated Antifa is?

00:12:10.000 Do you see a central leader?

00:12:11.000 There has to be somebody that is calling the shots.

00:12:14.000 What have you learned?

00:12:16.000 Well, I've learned that there is different roles that these groups play.

00:12:23.000 And typically, there is a loose idea of where they want to go, but the idea is that they move fluidly and they sort of right, they have their it's hard to say, Charlie.

00:12:38.000 It's hard, it's hard to say who is the leader when they all look the same and they're obfuscating their identities with black block. 1.00

00:12:45.000 Um, surely there is certain roles designated to how they're going to move down the street.

00:12:55.000 Uh, I do think there is, I do think there is a leader when it comes to these individual groups that organize these direct actions.

00:13:04.000 Uh, it's just hard to say who those might those people might be in the moment, and they're they're mercilessly violent.

00:13:12.000 We saw what they did in Georgia where they went after the cop city, which was a training facility for police officers, and they firebombed it and they committed arson, a majority of which the people who did that were not arrested and were not held accountable.

00:13:26.000 And I mean, their intent is disruption, their intent is violence.

00:13:30.000 The ideology that drives them is kind of more anarchism at times than it is even leftism, but it certainly is a hatred of you and I, of Christians, of conservatives.

00:13:44.000 There is a nastiness, there is a venom, there is almost a fervor for revolution.

00:13:49.000 What bothers me the most, though, is that the cops seem more interested in crowd controlling them than actually arresting them.

00:13:56.000 Is that correct?

00:13:59.000 You know, that's something that I don't fully understand.

00:14:03.000 I don't understand why they're just standing by and watching people being beaten in the streets and not doing anything about it.

00:14:11.000 I'm not sure what their rules of engagement are in terms of going out and protecting citizens from these types of people.

00:14:20.000 Journalists and media should be protected by law.

00:14:27.000 And I will say this: as I was walking down the street, I did hear law enforcement on the radio.

00:14:33.000 They were saying, Hey, there's a guy with a silver helmet and an armband, and he's got a bat.

00:14:38.000 He's been attacking people.

00:14:40.000 And so I know that they were aware.

00:14:44.000 They were aware of who was doing what.

00:14:47.000 And that may have been the individual who was arrested later on.

00:14:54.000 I just can't confirm.

00:14:56.000 These are shock troops.

00:14:58.000 I mean, these are people that are deployed for a very specific reason for political violence.

00:15:03.000 And the rest of them, Jerry Nadler says it didn't even exist when he was confronted.

00:15:07.000 Oh, what do you mean by Antifa?

00:15:08.000 Oh, they don't exist.

00:15:09.000 They're not real.

00:15:09.000 Play Cup 202 guys as I'm doing this just as B-roll.

00:15:13.000 And they find their targets.

00:15:14.000 But it's interesting that over the last, this is them attacking Cop City, which 23 were thankfully arrested.

00:15:23.000 The remainder were not.

00:15:24.000 And we have to be lectured about January 6th.

00:15:26.000 Meanwhile, they're attacking our homeland every single day, every day.

00:15:30.000 They literally committed acts of widespread arson and vandalism.

00:15:34.000 This is all thanks to Antifa.

00:15:37.000 And so, Kaelin, what we have found is that many of these people are not arrested.

00:15:41.000 They're not held accountable.

00:15:43.000 The police are afraid of them.

00:15:45.000 That is the case in many cities.

00:15:48.000 And the police do not want to engage.

00:15:50.000 They do not want to get involved in this.

00:15:52.000 It is obviously orchestrated.

00:15:54.000 The power balance has shifted because the activists are running the streets and it seems as if the district attorneys have their back.

00:16:01.000 But one minute remaining, Kaylin, it is interesting because what they are doing is more and more focused on the trans issue.

00:16:10.000 Why do you think that is?

00:16:12.000 I think the trans issue is a serious, a seriously grotesque attack on America's youth. 1.00

00:16:21.000 And I think that is why they're so vehemently against anyone who opposes it, because it's something that directly destroys the future of the United States.

00:16:33.000 If they can strike fear into anyone who wants to speak out against the absolutely bizarre things that these kids are being taught and that they believe about reality and themselves and what medicine is and what it isn't and what treatment should look like and what it shouldn't look like, they're going to do that.

00:16:55.000 If they can put you in the hospital for standing up against this agenda that seeks to destroy our youth and corrupt their minds, then they'll do it 100 times over and laugh in your face.

00:17:08.000 That's right.

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00:17:15.000 Kaylin, you're doing a great job.

00:17:16.000 Make sure you stay safe.

00:17:17.000 Our security team was there.

00:17:19.000 And I think that, you know, they really helped you.

00:17:23.000 And if they wouldn't have done what they did, they deserve a public thanks.

00:17:27.000 And so thank you, Kaylin.

00:17:28.000 We're out of time.

00:17:29.000 Keep being courageous.

00:17:30.000 And I pray that tomorrow at UC Davis does not get violent.

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00:18:38.000 The Snowflakes Revolt, how woke millennials hijacked American Media.

00:18:43.000 Very interesting premise.

00:18:45.000 I'm excited to dive into this.

00:18:47.000 And Amber Athey joins us now.

00:18:49.000 Amber, welcome to the program.

00:18:50.000 Thanks for having me, Charlie. 0.94

00:18:52.000 Amber, make the argument. 1.00

00:18:54.000 How did woke millennials hijack American media?

00:18:57.000 I think the premise of this book is really that conservatives got it so wrong about five years ago when we looked at the craziness that was happening on college campuses and we said these snowflakes are going to enter the real world and they'll just melt because they're not going to be able to hack it.

00:19:13.000 Their employers aren't going to give them safe spaces or trigger warnings and they're going to have to learn to adapt or die.

00:19:19.000 Well, what happened instead is that it turns out much of the American corporate space and particularly the mainstream media were both sympathetic to these college students and also totally unprepared for the onslaught that was going to come to their doorsteps.

00:19:34.000 And these so-called snowflakes entered the real world and have used the same campus tactics, mob tactics, public shaming, internal revolts, and overall cancellation attempts to completely wrest power from the institutions that they've now taken over.

00:19:54.000 And they've influenced the media in such a way that the reporting that we see is further left than ever before.

00:20:00.000 I have been told, though, by boomers that kids get more conservative once they leave college and college is liberal, but it's not as if they bring their ideas with them.

00:20:11.000 I've always found this to be preposterous.

00:20:12.000 I wrote a whole book on it, that what happens on college campuses doesn't stay on college campuses.

00:20:17.000 It'll influence corporate boardrooms and then the halls of Congress.

00:20:22.000 In media, have you seen that same phenomenon?

00:20:24.000 Have you seen these media companies come more like college newspapers and not the other way around?

00:20:30.000 Definitely.

00:20:31.000 I completely agree with your read on the situation. 0.92

00:20:34.000 The idea that all of these people are having a come to Jesus moment and this aha moment of conversion in terms of their political ideology is completely ridiculous.

00:20:44.000 If this were happening on such a wide scale, considering just how many progressives go through the university system, it would be an absolute spectacle.

00:20:52.000 I mean, we'd be reading about it every single day, but that's not what happens.

00:20:55.000 These people do carry these views with them and they use them to influence the mainstream media companies.

00:21:01.000 Absolutely.

00:21:02.000 I did a deep dive on several different outlets, including the Washington Post, the New York Times, Politico, The Hill.

00:21:09.000 And it's quite clear that they have been hiring reporters or activists disguised as reporters for the past five to 10 years.

00:21:18.000 And eventually they created such a large group of them that they've banded together and they've been able to completely influence the editorial line.

00:21:28.000 Just recently, one of the excerpts from my book, I obtained an exclusive copy of Politico's style guide.

00:21:35.000 And the style guide is just unbelievable political propaganda from left-wing activists.

00:21:40.000 You're not allowed to say terms like biological sex or biological man.

00:21:45.000 You're not allowed to say things like identifies as because you're denying a trans person's existence.

00:21:50.000 You're not allowed to say illegal alien, which is a legal term used by the Department of Homeland Security.

00:21:56.000 So that influences every single thing that you read in a news outlet.

00:22:01.000 Yeah, this list of examples you have here, and again, for untrained eyes, you don't always catch this.

00:22:08.000 And so here's a great example that you have in your book.

00:22:12.000 Politico organized a staff-wide seminar with a queer activist group.

00:22:17.000 Now, I got to stop here.

00:22:18.000 Amber, when I grew up, queer was a slur.

00:22:21.000 I guess now it is something that people like calling themselves.

00:22:27.000 That warned staffers how they were allowed to write about the LGBTQ plus community.

00:22:34.000 As you mentioned, the new style guide was issued to Politico reporters that remove all gender language from articles and dropped the descriptive terms like chain migration or late-term abortion.

00:22:45.000 This is not even in story selection or in kind of bigger picture bias.

00:22:51.000 We're talking about vocabulary policing that has now set into media.

00:22:57.000 Is that right?

00:22:58.000 Yes.

00:22:59.000 And this is very insidious, Charlie, because I think when we look at things like story selection or the headlines that are chosen, people can see that bias pretty clearly.

00:23:09.000 But when they're actually controlling language, they're controlling the way that you think.

00:23:14.000 The way that we understand concepts and issues is intrinsically linked to the vocabulary that we use, the words that we're allowed to use.

00:23:23.000 I mean, think of it this way.

00:23:25.000 If you're learning a new language, you think in English, for example, and then you translate the word to whatever language you're trying to learn, let's say Spanish.

00:23:35.000 It takes a long time before you get comfortable and fluent enough to immediately think of the concept in Spanish without doing that translation in your head.

00:23:43.000 That's how powerful language is in the way that we, in the way that we think.

00:23:47.000 And so by these people controlling the words that are used in newspapers and in news stories, they're directly controlling the way the readers understand those concepts.

00:23:59.000 And then also just removing the truth and watering it down ever so slightly.

00:24:05.000 I mean, another example here is just kind of in the you can't use chain migration.

00:24:13.000 You can't use late-term abortion.

00:24:15.000 You can't say identifying with.

00:24:16.000 And all this happens without the reader ever realizing it.

00:24:19.000 It is Orwellian, very slow-motion changes that are supposed to alter your mind.

00:24:26.000 The Hill launched a new editorial project in 19 called Changing America, supposedly centrist.

00:24:34.000 The first news outlet to use activist-created, quote, don't say gay nickname in a headline and published alarmist and alarmist propaganda about climate change.

00:24:46.000 Washington Post attempted to cancel a pro-fossil fuels philosopher and author over a two-decade-old blog post from college.

00:24:54.000 You say here the New York Times throughout the editorial staff behind the Tom Cotton op-ed after repeatedly defending left-wing employees who brought bad PR to the paper.

00:25:05.000 And so, I mean, we can go on and on and on about this, but where are the adult editors that tell them to kind of go pound sand?

00:25:14.000 That's the really sad part about all of this is if somebody just had the courage to stand up and say no against the mob, then none of this would be happening.

00:25:25.000 But I think a big part of the problem is that because newsrooms for so many years have become increasingly liberal, that there's not only a lot of sympathy for these woke activists, but there's also a great fear of them because I think they understand just how powerful these people can be.

00:25:41.000 I mean, if you're a left-wing boomer, being called a racist is the worst thing that can happen to you.

00:25:46.000 I mean, that is terrifying.

00:25:47.000 That is something that can absolutely destroy your career, your reputation, your social standing.

00:25:53.000 It actually used to mean something to be called a racist in the 80s.

00:25:55.000 That's why.

00:25:57.000 Exactly.

00:25:57.000 It used to mean something.

00:25:58.000 And now it's lobbied against anyone who doesn't tow the progressive orthodoxy.

00:26:02.000 And so I think these newsroom leaders are really just trying to prevent any accusations against their character.

00:26:08.000 And they think by appeasing the mob that they're going to get them on their side.

00:26:12.000 But instead, what they're doing is incentivizing them to continue their ridiculous cancellation attempts and public PR smears of the organizations that they work for.

00:26:21.000 Yeah, I mean, that's really important. 0.75

00:26:23.000 And it used to be that calling a racist was almost paralyzing.

00:26:29.000 I mean, I get people that are 60 plus all the time.

00:26:32.000 We just had a dinner recently.

00:26:33.000 I said, Charlie, if I didn't know you, I'd think you were this terrible racist based on everything I read in the newspaper.

00:26:38.000 And that must be really hard.

00:26:40.000 I said, why do you think being called a racist matters?

00:26:43.000 Like, well, it's the worst thing.

00:26:44.000 And they said, it would destroy my life.

00:26:46.000 It's like, destroy your life if someone lies about you?

00:26:49.000 It just goes to show how young activists use the weaponization of name-calling to go after old people. 0.99

00:26:56.000 You're a racist. 1.00

00:26:57.000 You're terrible. 1.00

00:26:58.000 Okay, whatever you want. 0.99

00:26:58.000 We'll reaccommodate all of society to you. 0.99

00:27:01.000 So let me ask, you know, so for example, you work at the Daily Caller.

00:27:05.000 You're now the Washington editor, the spectator.

00:27:07.000 I mean, is the journalist community in DC getting any better or is it just getting worse?

00:27:12.000 Are they more activist-driven?

00:27:14.000 Are they less?

00:27:15.000 I don't see major investigations going into any of these left-wing causes.

00:27:19.000 In the journalist pool in D.C., what are you seeing?

00:27:22.000 I would say that media has become more fractured.

00:27:25.000 You see a bigger divide between conservative media, as it's called, or independent media, and the mainstream media.

00:27:33.000 And the mainstream media is getting rid of the sort of old-fashioned liberals who still kind of understood journalistic ethics because anyone who stands in the way of this attempt to reshape the newsrooms in the views of the left-wing activists are no longer allowed to be there.

00:27:52.000 That's why you see people like Barry Weiss, Matt Taibbi, and some of these other classically liberal or left-leaning individuals systematically leaving the mainstream media because there's no room for any attempt at unbiased journalism or even just kind of left-leaning investigative journalism.

00:28:10.000 I mean, that used to be kind of acceptable, but now it's become so awash with just progressive idealism and a complete reshaping of what journalism even means.

00:28:20.000 I mean, in this politico meeting with the queer activists that you mentioned before, one of the things that was said by Kate Sozin, who is with a left-wing queer activist group, was that you're not allowed to report on both sides of the transgender issue because that would be considered a violation of journalistic ethics.

00:28:42.000 And in her view, journalistic ethics means standing on behalf of the downtrodden.

00:28:47.000 Whereas we like to think of it as, you know, going in search of the truth.

00:28:51.000 And what's so warped about this entire concept of fighting on behalf of the downtrodden is that these people aren't the downtrodden.

00:28:58.000 Journalists, for one, are some of the most powerful people in society.

00:29:02.000 They have mega platforms that they can use to shape public debate.

00:29:05.000 Cancel people at will, right?

00:29:07.000 These are some of the most powerful people on the planet.

00:29:09.000 Keep going.

00:29:11.000 And the minority groups that they claim to be giving a voice to because they're so voiceless are also people with immense power.

00:29:19.000 They benefit in all kinds of ways from affirmative action programs.

00:29:23.000 You're not allowed to criticize them because, again, you will be accused of being any type of bigot.

00:29:29.000 They have massive amounts of funding from left-wing billionaires for their pet projects.

00:29:33.000 I mean, the idea that these are people who lack any kind of institutional power is a complete backwards view of what American society actually is right now.

00:29:45.000 Believing you are a victim then gives you a moral license to victimize.

00:29:49.000 And far too often, we have people that have been told they're victims their entire life, and then they actually become the tyrants that they think they are opposing.

00:29:59.000 Happens more and more.

00:30:00.000 Amber, stay right there.

00:30:02.000 I want you to check out her book.

00:30:03.000 It's very important, The Snowflakes Revolt, How Woke Millennials Hijacked American Media.

00:30:10.000 This is so important.

00:30:10.000 And by the way, it goes against everything I was told.

00:30:13.000 I was told by adults and our saged elders, Charlie, come on.

00:30:17.000 I mean, the campuses are liberal, but they'll get more conservative as they get older.

00:30:21.000 That's not true.

00:30:23.000 They are becoming more radical.

00:30:24.000 They're infecting our institutions and they're trying to destroy the country.

00:30:28.000 Zero evidence to believe.

00:30:30.000 Zero evidence to believe that somehow they get more conservative as they get older, especially with this new ideology that takes very deep roots.

00:30:37.000 So, Amber, how do we go about fixing this?

00:30:39.000 They've taken over the institutions.

00:30:41.000 They've taken over the media.

00:30:43.000 How do we excommunicate them?

00:30:44.000 How do we reclaim them for goodness and for actual reporting?

00:30:48.000 I suppose the first question you have to ask is, is the media even worth saving?

00:30:51.000 Which I think is very much up for debate.

00:30:54.000 It would not be totally out of pocket, I think, for me to say that watching them destroy themselves would be quite satisfying.

00:31:01.000 But there is something that conservatives can do and Republicans can do to help fight back.

00:31:06.000 And I think the most obvious thing is to support each other when we become potential victims of these cancellation attempts.

00:31:14.000 I see too often conservatives who say, I don't want to get involved in that one because that one's a little sticky.

00:31:19.000 And then two weeks later, you find out that, of course, the accusations were bogus, but it was too late.

00:31:24.000 You didn't stand up for your friend.

00:31:25.000 And I think that's such a shame.

00:31:27.000 Now, the other thing is that conservatives need to stop playing the game of the mainstream media.

00:31:33.000 And what I mean by that is that you will constantly see Republicans on Capitol Hill giving scoops and stories and press releases and interviews to mainstream media.

00:31:44.000 It's like, why are members?

00:31:47.000 I know, why are members of the Trump administration calling the New York Times?

00:31:51.000 Maggie Haberman.

00:31:52.000 Yeah, come on in.

00:31:52.000 Come in in the Oval Office, Maggie.

00:31:54.000 I'm like, no, you should say, come on in, Matt Boyle from Breitbart.

00:31:57.000 Come on in, Amber.

00:31:58.000 You know what?

00:31:59.000 Drive them nuts where they'll have to say, according to Breitbart News, Donald Trump said he's, you know, just torpedoed Qassam Salamani.

00:32:05.000 Like, give them a good one.

00:32:07.000 I know.

00:32:07.000 They give us the PR scraps, you know, the stuff that's already public.

00:32:11.000 Or even worse, they will go to the New York Times.

00:32:14.000 The New York Times will, of course, turn it into a hit job.

00:32:16.000 And then they come running to conservative media and they say, please, can you help us fix this?

00:32:21.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:32:22.000 It's too late.

00:32:22.000 Why is that?

00:32:23.000 Is that because some of these older folks still have some sort of, I mean, they actually think this rag matters, this right here, the New York Times?

00:32:31.000 I think that's exactly what it is.

00:32:33.000 They sort of have this nostalgia for when these were the papers of record and they sort of want that perceived prestige or legacy.

00:32:41.000 But I tell this story in the book of when I was the White House correspondent for the Daily Caller and there was an instance where we were all members of the press across the spectrum were invited in for briefings on immigration.

00:32:55.000 And they were background briefings.

00:32:58.000 And in one of the briefings, it was all conservative media members who were invited into the upper press part of the White House.

00:33:07.000 And as we're waiting in line, these other reporters come walking up from CBS and CNN.

00:33:14.000 And they're trying to almost sneak their way into this background briefing.

00:33:18.000 And I think it just spoke to how entitled these members of the media are, where they really think that they're entitled to access, even though they continuously lie about people who disagree with them.

00:33:29.000 And I mean, to the Trump administration's credit, at that time, they had pushed these people out.

00:33:34.000 But then the next week, I think it was a week after CNN had published an incredibly egregious hit job on the president, they were inviting CNN White House correspondents once again up into upper press for background briefings.

00:33:49.000 And I just wanted to shake them and say, why are you constantly rewarding bad behavior?

00:33:55.000 I mean, you have the power to decide who really gets access.

00:33:58.000 And if you keep giving them access, they're going to keep doing exactly the same thing that they've been doing.

00:34:03.000 There was that kind of fight over Acosta's press credentials and all that.

00:34:08.000 But the point that was never covered, in my opinion, you don't have to call on him.

00:34:13.000 And so, I mean, I think you should be able to revoke press credentials of whoever you want because they do that to OAN and they did it to whatever.

00:34:20.000 But you don't have to call on him.

00:34:21.000 And you certainly get to choose which media, especially what conservative media, you could break exclusive stories to, cabinet pics and all that stuff.

00:34:29.000 And I see this with senators all the time.

00:34:32.000 Senators all the time are like, oh, Washington Post this and New York Times that.

00:34:37.000 And it's always, it's always adversarial media.

00:34:41.000 And I mean, it's almost as if where, you know, these Republicans like, well, if we show the Washington Post that we're fair, they'll reward us.

00:34:49.000 I mean, and the RNC, I mean, the RNC is buddy-buddy with the CNN and MSNBC.

00:34:54.000 And it's extraordinary.

00:34:55.000 Final thoughts, Amber?

00:34:57.000 Well, look, and the same thing happened with the New York Times, where people will say, well, we want our stuff published in the New York Times because we'll be able to change hearts and minds.

00:35:06.000 Well, the people who read the New York Times are canceling subscriptions when they see Republican names in their pages.

00:35:12.000 Those are not the people that you're going to convince to your point of view.

00:35:16.000 And just as someone who's, again, been in the White House, there's a huge difference between having a hard pass and being there every day and actually getting access to the administration.

00:35:24.000 So there's ways to do this that are completely legal and absolutely have to happen in order for us to delegitimize the mainstream media.

00:35:31.000 Check out Amber's latest book, It's Important, The Snowflakes Revolt: How Woke Millennials Hijacked American Media.

00:35:36.000 Amber, thanks so much.

00:35:38.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:35:39.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:35:40.000 Everybody, email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:44.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

00:35:49.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 14, 2023

How the Snowflakes Took Over Media with Amber Athey and Kalen D'Almeida

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