The Charlie Kirk Show - How the UnitedHealth CEO Killer Was Caught... In a McDonald's

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00:00:01.000 The strange case of the killing of the United CEO. The United Healthcare CEO. Very, very bizarre and strange.

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00:01:44.000 Yesterday, we were in Washington, D.C., and we missed some major news, the Daniel Penny news in particular.

00:01:49.000 Blake, thank you for filling in.

00:01:52.000 You did a great job at that breaking news hour.

00:01:55.000 I have a lot to say about that, but I need to really kind of combine my thoughts.

00:01:58.000 I'm going to get to the more breaking news, though, but it is phenomenal news that Daniel Penny walks free.

00:02:03.000 They're still going to go after him, by the way.

00:02:05.000 They're still going to go after him on civil charges, so he's not completely out of the woods.

00:02:10.000 However, criminally, it is a major win for justice and the American way of life.

00:02:17.000 The suspected UnitedHealthcare CEO shooter has been apprehended after a week-long manhunt.

00:02:23.000 This is one of the weirdest stories that we've seen in quite some time, and one of the saddest.

00:02:27.000 The suspected shooter, Luigi Mangione, was spotted at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania.

00:02:34.000 Police arrived and they found he was using the same fake ID that was used by the shooter.

00:02:39.000 They also found a silenced pistol with him, which they described as a ghost gun, a gun assembled from parts purchased online.

00:02:45.000 Mangione had a short 262-word note similar to a brief manifesto.

00:02:51.000 Reminds you almost of the Unabomber manifesto, which attacked companies that, quote, continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allowed them to get away with it, unquote.

00:03:03.000 The fact pattern of the story is really remarkable.

00:03:06.000 Mangione, the supposed downtrodden hero of the working class, is from a very well-off family in Maryland and attended an Ivy League school, the University of Pennsylvania.

00:03:17.000 Brian Thompson, the man he murdered in cold blood, was the son of a farm worker and went to Iowa State.

00:03:23.000 So why did he do it?

00:03:25.000 Why did he kill this CEO in cold blood?

00:03:29.000 We're sure to learn a lot more but from scouring Mangione's social media profile, we've learned a lot.

00:03:36.000 Mangione appears to have been a person of immense promise.

00:03:39.000 He was a high school valedictorian and had an Ivy League degree in computer science.

00:03:45.000 As a young man, he doesn't seem to have been that far left of a radical.

00:03:48.000 In fact, he seems to have been politically centrist.

00:03:51.000 But then something went terribly wrong.

00:03:54.000 Mangione was supposed to participate in a friend's wedding this fall when he suddenly vanished and stopped speaking even to his family and friends.

00:04:02.000 According to his friends, Mangione had a dramatic personality change after undergoing back surgery.

00:04:10.000 He also posted about experimenting with psychedelic drugs.

00:04:14.000 Really a bad idea.

00:04:15.000 This whole new rise of ketamine and LSD-laced psychedelics is a bad, bad trend in our country.

00:04:24.000 I do not support it.

00:04:26.000 All of a sudden, the street drugs in the 1960s are considered to be legitimate.

00:04:31.000 Prescriptions and alternatives.

00:04:32.000 It's a bad idea.

00:04:34.000 So one possibility is that he underwent surgery and used psychedelic drugs to try and manage the pain and instead had a psychotic break that ended in murder.

00:04:44.000 Internet users have also read through his Goodreads page which lists hundreds of books that he's read over the years.

00:04:51.000 One of those, by the way, was Hillbilly Elegy by J.D. Vance.

00:04:54.000 But the more interesting one was the one by the Unabomber.

00:04:59.000 Ted Kaczynski, otherwise known as the Unabomber Manifesto.

00:05:03.000 Now, interestingly, if it's true that Mangione was poisoning himself with psychedelics, he had a lot in common with Ted Kaczynski.

00:05:12.000 Ted Kaczynski was also a victim of poisoning.

00:05:17.000 Of course, by the Central Intelligence Agency.

00:05:20.000 The Unabomber's Manifesto is famous on the American right because it sends quite a bit of time attacking modern liberals.

00:05:27.000 It accuses them of hating the West.

00:05:29.000 Remember, Kaczynski was also a genius as well.

00:05:32.000 And justifying all kinds of evils as a result.

00:05:35.000 We've certainly seen that to be true. 0.77

00:05:37.000 But the manifesto also attacking modern big business and industrial society in general, accusing it of breaking down human relationships, alienating us from one another and wrecking the environment and so on.

00:05:49.000 Ultimately, the Unabomber believed that tearing down all of modern society was needed to save humanity. 0.87

00:05:55.000 It's a radical work and one that, if taken seriously, could lead a person to commit terrorism.

00:06:01.000 In this case, at least, it seemed to have actually happened.

00:06:06.000 Now, the deeper we dive into this, the more dark we see the picture of Mangione.

00:06:14.000 What would lead him to do something like this?

00:06:17.000 Well, it could be an insurance claim.

00:06:19.000 It could be this belief that the insurance industry is inherently awful or evil.

00:06:24.000 However...

00:06:25.000 Allow me to mention something that I've seen from the outside, which I am simply a reporter on this, and I find it to be very disturbing.

00:06:35.000 The widespread internet reaction of the lack of remorse for the death of this CEO is very noteworthy.

00:06:47.000 This CEO, Brian Thompson, did not deserve to be murdered in the street at all.

00:06:54.000 Not everyone necessarily agrees with that.

00:06:56.000 There are thousands, if not tens of thousands of people that are celebrating the death of Brian Thompson.

00:07:04.000 The death penalty with no pretrial due process.

00:07:09.000 Now, vigilante justice in this way is completely wrong.

00:07:14.000 However...

00:07:15.000 Let's just take a step back and say, what is it that would drive the American people to believe that Brian Thompson, not the American people, but some people, enough where it's noteworthy, okay?

00:07:26.000 Not some fringe on the internet.

00:07:28.000 To believe that a CEO and a father of two who's doing his job deserves to be murdered.

00:07:34.000 And it is a deeper and darker picture into how broken...

00:07:39.000 Health insurance is in this country.

00:07:40.000 In some ways, of course, this is a mental health issue.

00:07:42.000 This guy's obviously been all psychedelic-ed up.

00:07:46.000 Very, very high IQ and with an altered brain could be very, very evil.

00:07:51.000 But I'm just struck by how many people aren't upset and not sad that this CEO was murdered.

00:08:02.000 That this CEO, because they say that, well, my claim was not filled.

00:08:06.000 My claim was not taken.

00:08:08.000 And that's another very difficult takeaway from this entire saga.

00:08:15.000 People are even review bombing the McDonald's where Mangione was arrested, saying that it was full of rats.

00:08:22.000 So what does this mean for our culture, our society?

00:08:24.000 It will go down as one of the most perplexing stories in 2024. The CEO goes to a shareholder meeting.

00:08:32.000 And Mangione, who obviously did his research, he assumed he was going to be there, and we still don't yet know how he knew he was going to be there at that very specific time.

00:08:42.000 Mangione is likely going to spend the rest of his life in prison.

00:08:46.000 And, I mean, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare had death threats.

00:08:50.000 I get death threats all the time.

00:08:52.000 Didn't have personal security with him, and that's too bad.

00:08:55.000 But for millions of people to react, And of course, Mangione is innocent until proven guilty.

00:09:01.000 He's a suspect, not convicted.

00:09:03.000 All those proper prerequisites and important things to note.

00:09:10.000 Caveats.

00:09:11.000 If even a small portion of the population is thrilled that a CEO, or I mean, celebrating, saying the CEO deserved it, what does that mean?

00:09:23.000 There's something else deeper going on here.

00:09:25.000 Let me be perfectly clear.

00:09:27.000 The CEO did not deserve it.

00:09:30.000 This guy should go to jail for the rest of his life.

00:09:31.000 I'm simply observing the reaction as a curious onlooker saying, what is this?

00:09:36.000 This is strange.

00:09:38.000 I mean, I think it's terrible.

00:09:39.000 I think it's a tragedy that a father of two and a guy in a replaceable CEO role just gets murdered in cold blood.

00:09:46.000 I think it's awful.

00:09:47.000 But we need to think about this and ask ourselves the question less about the Mangione because I think we have a picture about that.

00:09:54.000 It's psychedelics.

00:09:55.000 It's the ayahuasca crowd.

00:09:56.000 That stuff will drive you nuts. 0.93

00:09:58.000 It's not good.

00:09:59.000 I think there's a deeper thing at play here worth some examination.

00:10:04.000 Just understand that I believe in the book of Romans or Philippians, there is a prohibition on the Greek word called pharmakia, which is exactly what this guy used.

00:10:17.000 And I believe it is a gateway to the demonic and the underworld.

00:10:21.000 Do not play around with that stuff, everybody.

00:10:23.000 It is bad across the board.

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00:12:24.000 In the meantime, I want to talk about the power of this audience, and that will be a perfect segue into our conversation with Senator Eric Schmidt.

00:12:33.000 A week ago, it looked as if Pete Hegseth was not going to survive.

00:12:37.000 It looked as if Pete Hegseth was going to be pulled and people were even saying that it was going to be Ron DeSantis as the replacement.

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00:13:13.000 That if you continue to say that you guys are supreme to the executive branch, we're not going to let that happen.

00:13:21.000 And of course, center stage was Joni Ernst.

00:13:23.000 And Joni Ernst is now saying she's going to vote for Pete Hegseth.

00:13:26.000 So we are, we're good.

00:13:28.000 We're just going to kind of lay off of Joni Ernst and allow that to continue.

00:13:32.000 Thank you, Joni, for your support.

00:13:34.000 And if things change, there will be a primary campaign visiting your town sometime soon.

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00:13:40.000 You're doing what we asked and we thank you for that.

00:13:42.000 Donald Trump won the mandate.

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00:13:47.000 We do not want Lloyd Austin, who you voted for, Joni.

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00:13:54.000 So therefore, let's get the alternative cabinet.

00:13:57.000 And Pete Hegseth has just been a gentleman.

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00:14:01.000 And I give Pete Hegseth great odds to be confirmed.

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00:14:27.000 And again, I've said this all along.

00:14:29.000 It's nothing against Senator Ernst.

00:14:30.000 We're done with that.

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00:14:32.000 What is the next person standing in the way?

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00:14:43.000 And we are the media.

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00:15:02.000 So Pete Hegseth just looked done a week ago.

00:15:05.000 To anyone on the outside.

00:15:07.000 Oh, we're going to pull it for DeSantis.

00:15:09.000 And no, no, no.

00:15:09.000 Who's doing this?

00:15:11.000 And we held the line.

00:15:13.000 We found out who was doing it.

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00:15:20.000 This program, all of you in the Charlie Kirk show audience, which is why when you guys become a member, members.charliekirk.com, you guys are part of the vanguard.

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00:16:04.000 Pete Hegseth, It's not there yet, but he's likely to get confirmed thanks to all of you who held the line and had the presidents and Pete's back.

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00:17:18.000 Joining us now is an excellent man in the U.S. Senate, one of the few, Senator Eric Schmidt from the great state of Missouri.

00:17:25.000 Senator, welcome to the program.

00:17:27.000 There has been a lot of drama recently around Senate confirmations, including Pete Hegseth.

00:17:33.000 What would you give Pete Hegseth's chance of now being confirmed and walk us through some of the events of the last week?

00:17:38.000 I think he's got a great chance.

00:17:41.000 And I think the vibes are strong.

00:17:43.000 I met with him last week.

00:17:44.000 I'm on the Armed Services Committee.

00:17:47.000 Pete's a great pick.

00:17:48.000 And you look at the sort of electrical cord that runs across all of these picks, Charlie, you've talked about it a bunch, is that They're all disruptors.

00:17:56.000 They're all reformers.

00:17:57.000 President Trump ran on this.

00:17:58.000 He talked about it for well over a year.

00:17:59.000 He held rallies all across the country.

00:18:01.000 He talked about disrupting the status quo in Washington.

00:18:04.000 And that's exactly what he's doing with these picks.

00:18:06.000 Our conversation centered around reforms within the Pentagon.

00:18:09.000 We've got to be nimbler.

00:18:11.000 We got to be smarter.

00:18:13.000 One of the big advantages we've always had against our adversaries like China is that we're innovators and China copies. 1.00

00:18:19.000 Well, if you have a Pentagon that's completely, you know, this bureaucratic mess, we're not going to innovate very well moving forward.

00:18:26.000 He talked about that.

00:18:26.000 Eliminating DEI once and for all in the Pentagon.

00:18:30.000 We've got some wins.

00:18:31.000 I've sponsored a hiring freeze, but you really need somebody at the top to lead that cultural kind of change to get back to warfighting. 0.99

00:18:38.000 And instead of all these social experiments, this racist DEI. So he's a smart guy.

00:18:44.000 He's going to do a great job.

00:18:45.000 And I think he's going to get through.

00:18:46.000 I think, honestly, I think they're all going to get through.

00:18:51.000 Because senators, I think, appreciate and hope they do.

00:18:55.000 It's certainly something I talk about.

00:18:58.000 President Trump won with that mandate.

00:18:59.000 He won the popular vote.

00:19:01.000 He swept the battleground states.

00:19:02.000 It's unprecedented.

00:19:03.000 It's the greatest political comeback in American history, and he deserves to have a team around him that wants to execute on his vision.

00:19:10.000 So, Senator, there's some whispers that the NDAA, which is this big bloated thing that gets passed, could potentially tie Pete Hegsatz and Doge's hands.

00:19:21.000 Educate our audience on what the NDAA is.

00:19:23.000 Do you guys need to pass it as this monstrosity before we add a couple more Senate seats and take the majority?

00:19:29.000 Please walk us through the details on the NDAA. Yeah, so the NDAA is the National Defense Authorization Act.

00:19:34.000 It's passed every year and essentially authorizes how we allocate resources to protect our country, right?

00:19:40.000 So, you know, what do you want to spend money on?

00:19:43.000 You know, are you spending money on, you know, the Air Force for this or are you spending money for the Navy for that?

00:19:48.000 We have real challenges right now.

00:19:50.000 I'll tell you, China has a bigger Navy than we have.

00:19:52.000 It's not a better Navy, but it's a bigger Navy.

00:19:55.000 We've got supply chain issues.

00:19:57.000 We've got production problems.

00:19:58.000 And so the NDAA is sort of a statement on the things that That we care about as it relates to our national defense.

00:20:04.000 It's about $800 billion a year.

00:20:06.000 That's what it is this year.

00:20:08.000 And so it's something we do.

00:20:10.000 I think there's a lot of big wins in this NDAA as it relates to DEI, getting rid of some of this censorship enterprise that was embedded.

00:20:18.000 By the Biden administration.

00:20:21.000 But we're going to know they're going to crack at this next year.

00:20:23.000 And my hope is that we have an administration, and we will, that's very much reform-minded.

00:20:30.000 But the NDA is something that every year we sort of put our stamp on, what are our priorities that relates to the national defense?

00:20:36.000 And I did talk to Pete about that.

00:20:39.000 I think he's coming in.

00:20:40.000 And what I would say is, and you know this to be true, I'm into the audience's We'll know this to be true.

00:20:45.000 The legislative branch plays a very important role with appropriating and oversight, but you have to have true believers leading those organizations.

00:20:55.000 It's the reason why we got into this goofy DEI stuff in the first place.

00:20:59.000 It was political.

00:21:00.000 It was meant to send some sort of virtue signal.

00:21:03.000 It's hurt recruiting.

00:21:04.000 The Navy's recruiting is down.

00:21:06.000 They fired over 6,000 well-qualified men and women from the armed forces because they refused to get the COVID shot.

00:21:14.000 I mean, this stuff is nuts.

00:21:15.000 So you really do need leadership that's going to change it culturally beyond just any legislation that we would pass or not pass.

00:21:21.000 So there were some whispers last night.

00:21:23.000 I don't need to get too deep into this, but that Schumer is doing some last minute stuff to try to protect the National Labor Relations Board from Trump.

00:21:31.000 They can file cloture.

00:21:33.000 They can force it through.

00:21:34.000 I know that it's a kind of a wonky thing.

00:21:36.000 I want you just to comment on that.

00:21:38.000 But more broadly, I mean, we are now three weeks out from the Senate majority flipping because it happens on January 3rd.

00:21:45.000 What last minute sneaky things do we have to be worried about from Chuck Schumer in the United States Senate?

00:21:51.000 Yeah, the good news is we're only here for the rest of this week and next week.

00:21:55.000 So there's a limited amount of time for Chuck Schumer to do shenanigans.

00:21:58.000 I think we're about done.

00:21:59.000 I think we kind of know the federal judges that he's going to appoint.

00:22:03.000 He's got a limited number he can do on the district court level.

00:22:06.000 There's not going to be any more Circuit level, meaning appellate judges, that's a win.

00:22:10.000 There's like four more that President Trump's going to get when he comes in because they have their own attendance issues, but we got to make sure we show up.

00:22:17.000 The NLRB stuff is a great example.

00:22:20.000 These are five-year positions.

00:22:24.000 It's a five-member board that decides a lot of potential disputes between business and labor and might have a role to play, quite frankly, with when President Trump wants to come in And have a reform agenda.

00:22:36.000 And if you're not willing to show up to work, you probably shouldn't have a job in this town, right?

00:22:40.000 So this is an important board.

00:22:42.000 It's important, I think, that we try to knock these people out.

00:22:44.000 I'm not going to support either one of them.

00:22:46.000 Those votes are coming this week.

00:22:47.000 But we've got to, if to the extent we can beat them, we don't have the numbers if everybody shows up.

00:22:52.000 But you don't know that until everybody shows up.

00:22:54.000 We've got to all vote no on these, I think, to sort of beat this back.

00:22:56.000 Yeah, I mean, also, I mean...

00:22:58.000 You got some bitter Democrats.

00:23:00.000 Jon Tester just might not show up.

00:23:02.000 I mean, you got some guys that...

00:23:04.000 I mean, literally, Jon Tester's telling reporters, I want to get the hell out of here, right?

00:23:06.000 And so he feels forgotten in some ways, Sherrod Brown.

00:23:11.000 So you don't know that, right?

00:23:12.000 It's just you don't know who actually might show up and who won't.

00:23:16.000 So the Senate majority will convene in early January.

00:23:19.000 I've had you on this topic before, Senator.

00:23:21.000 It's worth refreshing.

00:23:22.000 I know you're getting this question a lot.

00:23:24.000 So what...

00:23:24.000 Have you guys started to go through committee hearings and scheduling votes from January the 3rd before January 20th so that we can start to get Trump's cabinet within hours of swearing in?

00:23:36.000 Yeah, so I think the idea is, and our committees are going to come out, they're actually working on the composition because we've got new members coming in.

00:23:43.000 I would expect Charlie either later this week Worst case, next week, our committees will be set, which will be an important first step.

00:23:51.000 And then I think you'll see the committee chairmen start to announce committee hearings right when we're back.

00:23:57.000 And you're right.

00:23:58.000 We should not wait until January 20th.

00:24:00.000 Let's get rolling.

00:24:01.000 I met with Pam Bondi actually today.

00:24:04.000 Pam is a great friend.

00:24:05.000 Pam is going to be an incredible Attorney General. 1.00

00:24:08.000 She's going to restore, I think, her respect to an agency that completely has lost its way, has been overtly politicized.

00:24:13.000 Cash Patel, you know, I'll be meeting with Cash soon.

00:24:16.000 He's going to do a great job at the FBI. She's got all this great team, but we've got to get them in place.

00:24:20.000 So I think the idea is, at the beginning of January, as quickly as we can, let's start scheduling these hearings.

00:24:26.000 Let's start getting votes so that President Trump has his team in place as quickly as possible.

00:24:30.000 That is the goal.

00:24:31.000 So, yeah, I just...

00:24:32.000 So you can get them out of committee before January 20th.

00:24:36.000 Can you confirm them before January the 20th?

00:24:38.000 Yeah, theoretically, because the new Congress is sworn in on January 3rd.

00:24:43.000 The new members are sworn in.

00:24:44.000 We come back in earnest, really, that next week, whatever that is, January 6th.

00:24:51.000 That's when we begin our work.

00:24:54.000 So they're sworn in on the 3rd, the new members.

00:24:57.000 January 6th, we come in, and then it's go time, right?

00:25:00.000 And so my position would be, Let's, like that first week, like, let's not wait.

00:25:04.000 There's no organizing to do anymore.

00:25:06.000 Everybody's been, had their committee assignments.

00:25:08.000 Let's roll.

00:25:09.000 And so, yes, we can have the committee hearings.

00:25:11.000 We can vote them out of committee.

00:25:13.000 We can vote on the floor.

00:25:15.000 I mean, there's some timing issues there about, you know, But we're not talking about a very long time.

00:25:20.000 So I think in January, and even in early February, let's get going.

00:25:24.000 But to my, look, if we can get everybody done by January 20th, I would love to do it.

00:25:28.000 But at a minimum, let's just start, let's get the hearing set.

00:25:31.000 Let's air this stuff out.

00:25:32.000 Let's let the American people see all these great picks that President Trump has offered up now.

00:25:36.000 And let's get going.

00:25:38.000 Yeah, that's really instructive and helpful.

00:25:40.000 That didn't happen back in 2017, though.

00:25:43.000 In fact, Donald Trump did not even get his attorney general till early February.

00:25:47.000 I mean, it was a very prolonged process.

00:25:50.000 What is Senate Majority Leader Thune doing differently in a good way that prior Senate leadership has not done?

00:25:57.000 Yeah, so I wasn't here in 2017. I was AG in Missouri in that era.

00:26:03.000 But Senator Thune has made clear, we had a meeting last week with our Senate conference, and President Trump joined in by phone.

00:26:15.000 We were very unified about having a sense of urgency.

00:26:20.000 And to me, this is what I'm telling my colleagues.

00:26:22.000 We do not get these opportunities very often.

00:26:24.000 I mean, the idea that we have a Republican White House, a Republican House, a Republican Senate, that people work so hard, your listeners, you, everybody across the country work so hard for this, we cannot be back on our heels.

00:26:35.000 We have to move an agenda forward that's reflective of what the American people wanted, getting key people into these positions.

00:26:42.000 I also think, by way, we ought to move immediately on I don't want to get too wonky, but reconciliation is a way that if it's tax related, there's budget savings.

00:26:53.000 We only need 51 votes in the Senate.

00:26:55.000 You don't have to deal with the 60 vote threshold.

00:26:56.000 Let's get some big wins early for President Trump.

00:26:58.000 Let's deal with the border.

00:27:00.000 Let's deal with energy.

00:27:01.000 The tax cuts that President Trump got in in 2017 will expire at the end of the year.

00:27:07.000 We should do that quickly, but let's not, in my view, let's get some Big wins and some points on the board early.

00:27:13.000 We can deal with those tax provisions throughout the year, too, and get those done.

00:27:17.000 But I think that's the way to do this, because the American people are going to be watching.

00:27:21.000 They're going to see the flurry of executive orders.

00:27:23.000 There's a lot President Trump can do on day one, but there are some things that we need to be able to do, and I think we need to move quickly.

00:27:29.000 Very good.

00:27:30.000 Senator, thank you so much for your time.

00:27:31.000 Really appreciate it.

00:27:32.000 And we'll have you on again soon.

00:27:33.000 Thank you.

00:27:34.000 All right, Charlie.

00:27:34.000 Take care.

00:27:35.000 Thank you.

00:27:36.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

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00:29:24.000 Tulsi Gabbard woos the defense hawks in her first Hill visit, Politico.com writes.

00:29:29.000 The former Democrat on Monday opened her campaign to win Senate support as the next director of national intelligence. 0.98

00:29:35.000 Now, I think the world of Tulsi, she's become a great friend.

00:29:38.000 She is just extraordinary.

00:29:41.000 What's really going on here?

00:29:42.000 Well, a lot of these senators, like Senator Rounds, who we very well might end up primarying, doesn't look exactly like the most thrilled guy in this picture.

00:29:51.000 Now, this might have been just kind of, you know, caught him in a bad, candid moment, and it could just be in very misleading aesthetic.

00:30:00.000 Or it could actually capture the essence of what's going on here.

00:30:05.000 And I just love this picture.

00:30:07.000 I mean, this is like one of the highest forms of art because it's truth.

00:30:09.000 He has a picture, of course, of a guy fencing hunting in South Dakota, a reminder that he has to still respond to his voters.

00:30:17.000 But there he is.

00:30:18.000 He's kind of looking very queasily at the press.

00:30:22.000 Mike Rounds does not want to vote for Tulsi Gabbard.

00:30:25.000 Mike Rounds is an intel guy.

00:30:27.000 He wants whatever the regime wants to spy and to subvert and to overthrow.

00:30:33.000 Mike Rounds would be the guy that would be flying the Syrian resistance flag.

00:30:37.000 Mike Rounds is a neocon.

00:30:39.000 He is a war hawk.

00:30:42.000 Tulsi Gabbard is not.

00:30:44.000 Tulsi Gabbard is an American patriot.

00:30:45.000 She wants America to be safe.

00:30:46.000 She wants to be able to fight radical Islamic terrorism.

00:30:48.000 She wants to be a strong and lethal fighting force. 1.00

00:30:50.000 She does not want to have nation-building or regime change or over-configuration with abstractions abroad.

00:30:58.000 Tulsi Gabbard says, quote, I want to address the issue that's in the headlines right now.

00:31:01.000 I stand in full support and wholeheartedly agree with the statements that President Trump has made over the last few days with regards to developments in Syria.

00:31:08.000 President Trump said, quote, Syria's a mess and the United States should have nothing to do with it.

00:31:12.000 He was also very morally clear about how Assad is not a good dude.

00:31:15.000 But the rebels are far worse.

00:31:18.000 They're both bad.

00:31:19.000 And look, Senator Rounds better get with the program.

00:31:22.000 And he is.

00:31:22.000 I mean, look how happy he looks.

00:31:25.000 Put that picture up.

00:31:25.000 He just looks thrilled.

00:31:27.000 I mean, he's just...

00:31:28.000 That's 10 out of 10 right there.

00:31:30.000 I mean, he's just ready to...

00:31:31.000 He is just...

00:31:32.000 He's going to champion that whole thing.

00:31:35.000 He's ready to go.

00:31:37.000 And look, I hope he ends up voting for Tulsi.

00:31:39.000 And of course, I mean, Mike Rounds has his, you know, he's just a Bush Cheney guy.

00:31:42.000 And that is what it is.

00:31:44.000 However, the Joni Ernst saga, which again, God bless Joni.

00:31:48.000 Heat is off Joni now.

00:31:49.000 She's back in the club. 0.77

00:31:51.000 As long as she votes for Pete and votes for Tulsi and votes for Bobby.

00:31:55.000 She's back in the club. 0.77

00:31:56.000 But maybe Senator Rounds is next.

00:31:59.000 Boy, wouldn't that be fun to primary Senator Rounds?

00:32:02.000 Blake could run the campaign.

00:32:05.000 He's from South Dakota.

00:32:07.000 By the way, if you chase like 5,000 votes in Rapid City and like 10,000 votes in Sioux Falls, you're like half the GOP primary electorate swing vote.

00:32:17.000 And look, I hope he goes behind it, but he's been very wishy-washy, very unpredictable recently with his support of President Trump, so I hope that ends up changing.

00:32:27.000 I hope he ends up going, and we want to see that.

00:32:30.000 A reporter...

00:32:32.000 Asked me.

00:32:32.000 They said, well, Charlie, does the criteria of who you're going to primary is just on the cabinet officials?

00:32:37.000 I said, well, that's part of it.

00:32:38.000 It's a large part of it.

00:32:39.000 But it's also, they're so out of alignment with what Republican voters want, specifically Republican primary voters, that we just might need a Tommy Tuberville in South Dakota.

00:32:50.000 We might just need a fighter, a Mike Lee fighter.

00:32:56.000 We might need a real MAGA senator.

00:32:58.000 We might need a JD Vance in South Dakota.

00:33:00.000 So many of these guys are grandfathered in from the pre-Trump days.

00:33:03.000 They're dinosaurs.

00:33:05.000 They are relics of a dynasty that has fallen.

00:33:09.000 They are remnants of a time long past.

00:33:12.000 I don't know how much longer they're going to be around as U.S. senators.

00:33:16.000 Time will tell.

00:33:17.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:18.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:20.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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