The strange case of the killing of the United CEO. The United Healthcare CEO. Very, very bizarre and strange. Senator Eric Schmidt joins us as we also talk about how we have momentum to give Trump his cabinet. Become a member today at members.charliekirk.org/tppusa.
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00:01:52.000You did a great job at that breaking news hour.
00:01:55.000I have a lot to say about that, but I need to really kind of combine my thoughts.
00:01:58.000I'm going to get to the more breaking news, though, but it is phenomenal news that Daniel Penny walks free.
00:02:03.000They're still going to go after him, by the way.
00:02:05.000They're still going to go after him on civil charges, so he's not completely out of the woods.
00:02:10.000However, criminally, it is a major win for justice and the American way of life.
00:02:17.000The suspected UnitedHealthcare CEO shooter has been apprehended after a week-long manhunt.
00:02:23.000This is one of the weirdest stories that we've seen in quite some time, and one of the saddest.
00:02:27.000The suspected shooter, Luigi Mangione, was spotted at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania.
00:02:34.000Police arrived and they found he was using the same fake ID that was used by the shooter.
00:02:39.000They also found a silenced pistol with him, which they described as a ghost gun, a gun assembled from parts purchased online.
00:02:45.000Mangione had a short 262-word note similar to a brief manifesto.
00:02:51.000Reminds you almost of the Unabomber manifesto, which attacked companies that, quote, continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allowed them to get away with it, unquote.
00:03:03.000The fact pattern of the story is really remarkable.
00:03:06.000Mangione, the supposed downtrodden hero of the working class, is from a very well-off family in Maryland and attended an Ivy League school, the University of Pennsylvania.
00:03:17.000Brian Thompson, the man he murdered in cold blood, was the son of a farm worker and went to Iowa State.
00:03:25.000Why did he kill this CEO in cold blood?
00:03:29.000We're sure to learn a lot more but from scouring Mangione's social media profile, we've learned a lot.
00:03:36.000Mangione appears to have been a person of immense promise.
00:03:39.000He was a high school valedictorian and had an Ivy League degree in computer science.
00:03:45.000As a young man, he doesn't seem to have been that far left of a radical.
00:03:48.000In fact, he seems to have been politically centrist.
00:03:51.000But then something went terribly wrong.
00:03:54.000Mangione was supposed to participate in a friend's wedding this fall when he suddenly vanished and stopped speaking even to his family and friends.
00:04:02.000According to his friends, Mangione had a dramatic personality change after undergoing back surgery.
00:04:10.000He also posted about experimenting with psychedelic drugs.
00:04:34.000So one possibility is that he underwent surgery and used psychedelic drugs to try and manage the pain and instead had a psychotic break that ended in murder.
00:04:44.000Internet users have also read through his Goodreads page which lists hundreds of books that he's read over the years.
00:04:51.000One of those, by the way, was Hillbilly Elegy by J.D. Vance.
00:04:54.000But the more interesting one was the one by the Unabomber.
00:04:59.000Ted Kaczynski, otherwise known as the Unabomber Manifesto.
00:05:03.000Now, interestingly, if it's true that Mangione was poisoning himself with psychedelics, he had a lot in common with Ted Kaczynski.
00:05:12.000Ted Kaczynski was also a victim of poisoning.
00:05:17.000Of course, by the Central Intelligence Agency.
00:05:20.000The Unabomber's Manifesto is famous on the American right because it sends quite a bit of time attacking modern liberals.
00:05:37.000But the manifesto also attacking modern big business and industrial society in general, accusing it of breaking down human relationships, alienating us from one another and wrecking the environment and so on.
00:05:49.000Ultimately, the Unabomber believed that tearing down all of modern society was needed to save humanity.
00:05:55.000It's a radical work and one that, if taken seriously, could lead a person to commit terrorism.
00:06:01.000In this case, at least, it seemed to have actually happened.
00:06:06.000Now, the deeper we dive into this, the more dark we see the picture of Mangione.
00:06:14.000What would lead him to do something like this?
00:07:15.000Let's just take a step back and say, what is it that would drive the American people to believe that Brian Thompson, not the American people, but some people, enough where it's noteworthy, okay?
00:08:08.000And that's another very difficult takeaway from this entire saga.
00:08:15.000People are even review bombing the McDonald's where Mangione was arrested, saying that it was full of rats.
00:08:22.000So what does this mean for our culture, our society?
00:08:24.000It will go down as one of the most perplexing stories in 2024. The CEO goes to a shareholder meeting.
00:08:32.000And Mangione, who obviously did his research, he assumed he was going to be there, and we still don't yet know how he knew he was going to be there at that very specific time.
00:08:42.000Mangione is likely going to spend the rest of his life in prison.
00:08:46.000And, I mean, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare had death threats.
00:09:59.000I think there's a deeper thing at play here worth some examination.
00:10:04.000Just understand that I believe in the book of Romans or Philippians, there is a prohibition on the Greek word called pharmakia, which is exactly what this guy used.
00:10:17.000And I believe it is a gateway to the demonic and the underworld.
00:10:21.000Do not play around with that stuff, everybody.
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00:17:48.000And you look at the sort of electrical cord that runs across all of these picks, Charlie, you've talked about it a bunch, is that They're all disruptors.
00:19:03.000It's the greatest political comeback in American history, and he deserves to have a team around him that wants to execute on his vision.
00:19:10.000So, Senator, there's some whispers that the NDAA, which is this big bloated thing that gets passed, could potentially tie Pete Hegsatz and Doge's hands.
00:19:21.000Educate our audience on what the NDAA is.
00:19:23.000Do you guys need to pass it as this monstrosity before we add a couple more Senate seats and take the majority?
00:19:29.000Please walk us through the details on the NDAA. Yeah, so the NDAA is the National Defense Authorization Act.
00:19:34.000It's passed every year and essentially authorizes how we allocate resources to protect our country, right?
00:19:40.000So, you know, what do you want to spend money on?
00:19:43.000You know, are you spending money on, you know, the Air Force for this or are you spending money for the Navy for that?
00:20:40.000And what I would say is, and you know this to be true, I'm into the audience's We'll know this to be true.
00:20:45.000The legislative branch plays a very important role with appropriating and oversight, but you have to have true believers leading those organizations.
00:20:55.000It's the reason why we got into this goofy DEI stuff in the first place.
00:21:15.000So you really do need leadership that's going to change it culturally beyond just any legislation that we would pass or not pass.
00:21:21.000So there were some whispers last night.
00:21:23.000I don't need to get too deep into this, but that Schumer is doing some last minute stuff to try to protect the National Labor Relations Board from Trump.
00:21:59.000I think we kind of know the federal judges that he's going to appoint.
00:22:03.000He's got a limited number he can do on the district court level.
00:22:06.000There's not going to be any more Circuit level, meaning appellate judges, that's a win.
00:22:10.000There's like four more that President Trump's going to get when he comes in because they have their own attendance issues, but we got to make sure we show up.
00:22:24.000It's a five-member board that decides a lot of potential disputes between business and labor and might have a role to play, quite frankly, with when President Trump wants to come in And have a reform agenda.
00:22:36.000And if you're not willing to show up to work, you probably shouldn't have a job in this town, right?
00:23:24.000Have you guys started to go through committee hearings and scheduling votes from January the 3rd before January 20th so that we can start to get Trump's cabinet within hours of swearing in?
00:23:36.000Yeah, so I think the idea is, and our committees are going to come out, they're actually working on the composition because we've got new members coming in.
00:23:43.000I would expect Charlie either later this week Worst case, next week, our committees will be set, which will be an important first step.
00:23:51.000And then I think you'll see the committee chairmen start to announce committee hearings right when we're back.
00:25:38.000Yeah, that's really instructive and helpful.
00:25:40.000That didn't happen back in 2017, though.
00:25:43.000In fact, Donald Trump did not even get his attorney general till early February.
00:25:47.000I mean, it was a very prolonged process.
00:25:50.000What is Senate Majority Leader Thune doing differently in a good way that prior Senate leadership has not done?
00:25:57.000Yeah, so I wasn't here in 2017. I was AG in Missouri in that era.
00:26:03.000But Senator Thune has made clear, we had a meeting last week with our Senate conference, and President Trump joined in by phone.
00:26:15.000We were very unified about having a sense of urgency.
00:26:20.000And to me, this is what I'm telling my colleagues.
00:26:22.000We do not get these opportunities very often.
00:26:24.000I mean, the idea that we have a Republican White House, a Republican House, a Republican Senate, that people work so hard, your listeners, you, everybody across the country work so hard for this, we cannot be back on our heels.
00:26:35.000We have to move an agenda forward that's reflective of what the American people wanted, getting key people into these positions.
00:26:42.000I also think, by way, we ought to move immediately on I don't want to get too wonky, but reconciliation is a way that if it's tax related, there's budget savings.
00:27:01.000The tax cuts that President Trump got in in 2017 will expire at the end of the year.
00:27:07.000We should do that quickly, but let's not, in my view, let's get some Big wins and some points on the board early.
00:27:13.000We can deal with those tax provisions throughout the year, too, and get those done.
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00:29:42.000Well, a lot of these senators, like Senator Rounds, who we very well might end up primarying, doesn't look exactly like the most thrilled guy in this picture.
00:29:51.000Now, this might have been just kind of, you know, caught him in a bad, candid moment, and it could just be in very misleading aesthetic.
00:30:00.000Or it could actually capture the essence of what's going on here.
00:30:46.000She wants to be able to fight radical Islamic terrorism.
00:30:48.000She wants to be a strong and lethal fighting force.
00:30:50.000She does not want to have nation-building or regime change or over-configuration with abstractions abroad.
00:30:58.000Tulsi Gabbard says, quote, I want to address the issue that's in the headlines right now.
00:31:01.000I stand in full support and wholeheartedly agree with the statements that President Trump has made over the last few days with regards to developments in Syria.
00:31:08.000President Trump said, quote, Syria's a mess and the United States should have nothing to do with it.
00:31:12.000He was also very morally clear about how Assad is not a good dude.
00:32:07.000By the way, if you chase like 5,000 votes in Rapid City and like 10,000 votes in Sioux Falls, you're like half the GOP primary electorate swing vote.
00:32:17.000And look, I hope he goes behind it, but he's been very wishy-washy, very unpredictable recently with his support of President Trump, so I hope that ends up changing.
00:32:27.000I hope he ends up going, and we want to see that.
00:32:39.000But it's also, they're so out of alignment with what Republican voters want, specifically Republican primary voters, that we just might need a Tommy Tuberville in South Dakota.
00:32:50.000We might just need a fighter, a Mike Lee fighter.