The Charlie Kirk Show - How They Did It: The 'Conspiracy' to Defeat Donald Trump

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00:00:01.000 On this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, I spend this whole episode on one article, The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election by Molly Ball, a time.com article that is so stunning that even in this whole episode, I felt like I could have gone an extra hour.

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00:01:00.000 The secret history of the shadow campaign that saved the 2020 election.

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00:02:49.000 What if I told you that instead of conservatives and journalists having to go through months and years of investigation of what exactly happened in November and the months leading to it?

00:03:06.000 What if I told you all that work was done for us?

00:03:10.000 What if I told you that the people that were behind an orchestrated effort for a desired result in November have now publicly admitted and detailed their efforts?

00:03:30.000 This story was almost too stunning to comprehend after four times of reading it.

00:03:38.000 That's right.

00:03:38.000 I've read this story four times.

00:03:40.000 And it's not even that the details are that stunning.

00:03:43.000 It's the brazen cockiness that they published this story with.

00:03:52.000 The almost Unprecedented double standard it takes to write a story like this.

00:04:02.000 And it says by Molly Ball from Time magazine.

00:04:05.000 See, I didn't know Time really did much writing anymore, which is exactly probably why they decided to do it in Time magazine because they could get written exactly what they want written because Time would want the clicks and Time would want the mentions, so they were probably more open to writing the story they wanted to have written.

00:04:22.000 By Molly Ball.

00:04:23.000 She actually did a pretty good job of writing this. 0.86

00:04:25.000 I'm not saying she did a good job of reporting it because some of her word selection and diction is unbelievable.

00:04:33.000 The secret history of the shadow campaign that saved the 2020 election.

00:04:40.000 That's the title.

00:04:43.000 Secret Shadow Saved.

00:04:46.000 Those are the three operative words.

00:04:51.000 I want to go back in the time machine before I even go back, go into this article.

00:04:55.000 Do you remember when there were thousands of articles written specifically by the New Yorker about dark money, shadow operations, secret clandestine efforts, possibly dealing with Russia?

00:05:13.000 The article starts by talking about how after Election Day, there were no protests in the streets.

00:05:20.000 I started reading this article, and the C-word started to creep into thought.

00:05:29.000 I said, is this what I think it is?

00:05:32.000 And then Molly Ball says it for me in about the seventh paragraph.

00:05:41.000 There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes.

00:05:46.000 One that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs.

00:05:53.000 It goes on to say that a pact was formalized in a terse, little notice joint statement of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, who I think we went through in great detail this week, and the AFL-CIO, which is a public sector union.

00:06:08.000 Private unions I have no issue with generally, as long as people have freedom to choose to associate public sector unions, I'm a harsh critic of.

00:06:19.000 Publish on Election Day.

00:06:21.000 Both sides would come to see as sort of an implicit bargain inspired by the summer's massive, sometimes destructive racial justice protest.

00:06:30.000 At least she's honest. 0.98

00:06:31.000 Good for Molly Ball for that.

00:06:32.000 She didn't say mostly peaceful.

00:06:35.000 In what forces of labor and what forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep peace and oppose Trump's assault on democracy.

00:06:46.000 So let's go back to this sentence here.

00:06:48.000 There was a conspiracy unfolding.

00:06:52.000 Now, only Democrats could have a puff piece written about a conspiracy.

00:06:57.000 Only Democrats could possibly pull that off.

00:07:01.000 She used the C word, conspiracy.

00:07:04.000 Now, I'm going to walk through this 25-page article in great detail because it admits, and it says here, through never-before-seen documents, interviews with dozens of those involved across the political spectrum, access to the inner workings.

00:07:24.000 It is the story of an unprecedented, creative, and determined campaign whose success reveals how close the nation came to disaster, aka Trump winning.

00:07:35.000 And what's so incredible about this article is how all of this had nothing to do with persuasion.

00:07:47.000 This is a 25-page document that involves billions of dollars of resources.

00:07:52.000 The most powerful people on the planet openly admitting that they worked in collusion and conspiracy with each other for a desired objective and goal.

00:08:04.000 All to protect democracy.

00:08:09.000 Now, what's so extraordinary is that is the opposite of a constitutional republic.

00:08:14.000 Powerful people colluding together for a desired outcome and objective is not what representative government is about.

00:08:22.000 That's what kleptocrats do.

00:08:26.000 The handshake between business and labor was just one component of a vast cross-partisan campaign to protect the election, which is code for defeating Trump.

00:08:35.000 An extraordinary shadow effort dedicated to not winning the vote, but ensuring it would be fair, free, credible, and uncorrupted.

00:08:44.000 I want to read this sentence here.

00:08:47.000 The scenario the shadow campaigners were desperate to stop was not necessarily a Trump victory.

00:08:53.000 It was an election so calamitous that no result could be discerned at all.

00:08:58.000 A failure of the central act of democrat self-governance that has been the hallmark of America since its founding.

00:09:03.000 So the thesis statement as this begins is that it wasn't really about defeating Trump.

00:09:07.000 It was just about defeating Trump's desired objective by us getting involved and changing the way we do elections in our country totally completely, but more than just elections.

00:09:17.000 In this document, they detail how they prevented protests from happening, about how they used the threat of the deployment of protests.

00:09:29.000 In this piece, it talks about hundreds of millions of dollars being spent by Zuckerberg for a very specific purpose.

00:09:37.000 In this article, it talks about how, behind the scenes, while we were worried about Trump's approval rating and polls in Battleground States, when we were worried about voter registration numbers, when we were worried about whether or not President Trump was actually managing the Chinese coronavirus, what were they doing?

00:09:56.000 They were at Mark Zuckerberg's home demanding certain accounts get shut down.

00:10:03.000 That's what they were doing.

00:10:06.000 I quote here: their work touched every aspect of the election.

00:10:12.000 And these are not my words.

00:10:13.000 This is Time magazine that says they are shadow campaigners.

00:10:18.000 Again, typically that's a pejorative when you're dealing with representative government.

00:10:24.000 Who wants to be known as a shadow campaigner?

00:10:31.000 Their work touched every aspect of the election.

00:10:34.000 The shadow campaigners got states to change their voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions of dollars in public and private funding.

00:10:46.000 They fended off voter suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers, and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time.

00:10:53.000 They successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation, told you, and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears.

00:11:04.000 Norm Eisen, who we mentioned on a podcast with Darren Beattie, you might know that name when we are warning against a color revolution, said, quote, the untold story of the election is thousands of people of both parties who accomplished the triumph of American democracy at its very foundation.

00:11:20.000 Okay, so let me be clear.

00:11:21.000 When Trump won in 2016, that was an assault on democracy.

00:11:26.000 But when Joe Biden wins after a week of shenanigans, nonsense, tomfoolery, and interference from your conspiracy, that's a win for democracy.

00:11:35.000 When they say that, it's code for our guy won, your guy lost.

00:11:40.000 It's that simple.

00:11:48.000 We don't have to do our own research anymore now about what happened.

00:11:53.000 They publicly admit it.

00:11:55.000 They wrote the book that shows what they did.

00:11:58.000 And I'm telling you, everybody, listen very carefully to stuff we're about to go through because this is about to be some incredibly revealing information.

00:12:09.000 This piece is the most in-depth and detailed article I have read with inside sources and document review about what happened in the 2020 election from the Democrat side.

00:12:26.000 They call themselves the Democracy Campaigners.

00:12:29.000 That was a self-described title.

00:12:33.000 Former GOP representative Zach Womp said, quote, we can look back and say things went pretty well, but it was not all clear in September and October that that was going to be the case.

00:12:43.000 Things went really well.

00:12:45.000 Who is this guy?

00:12:46.000 What is he talking about?

00:12:50.000 This is the inside story of the conspiracy to save the 2020 election, based on access to groups, inner workings, never before seen documents, interviews with dozens of those involved across the political spectrum.

00:13:04.000 If you want to stop people in believing in QAnon conspiracy theories, stop admitting that there are conspiracies on the left.

00:13:17.000 I mean, what do you think people are going to think when they read this?

00:13:21.000 Like, I told you, they're admitting that there was a conspiracy.

00:13:24.000 They use that word time and time again.

00:13:29.000 You remember when conspiracy was a way of attacking the other side?

00:13:35.000 I had to pull this from the memory bank.

00:13:37.000 Remember when Hillary Clinton said this back during the Clinton impeachment trial playtape?

00:13:42.000 The great story here for anybody willing to find it and write about it and explain it is this vast right-wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband since the day he announced for president.

00:13:56.000 I remember when conspiracy was a bad word to use.

00:13:59.000 Now, it's how we describe, what do they call themselves?

00:14:04.000 They call themselves the Avengers or something.

00:14:05.000 Oh, yeah, the democracy campaigners.

00:14:07.000 That's what they call themselves.

00:14:09.000 Got it.

00:14:12.000 One step short of the Avengers.

00:14:13.000 Trust me.

00:14:15.000 So as I was reading this, I kid you not, I was thinking to myself, boy, this kind of feels like a cabal.

00:14:21.000 I was like, ah, that's probably too aggressive of a word.

00:14:24.000 Then I got to paragraph 15.

00:14:28.000 Even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream, a well-funded cabal of powerful people, she says it right here in this article.

00:14:36.000 She says it right here.

00:14:37.000 Ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage, and control the flow of information.

00:14:48.000 Trust us, they were not rigging the election.

00:14:50.000 They were just fortifying it.

00:14:51.000 Yeah, it makes perfect sense.

00:14:52.000 That one sentence makes me feel so much better, Molly Ball.

00:14:55.000 Fortifying.

00:14:56.000 What a wonderful word.

00:14:57.000 I bet that was poll tested.

00:15:00.000 And they believe the public needs to understand the system's fragility in order to ensure that democracy is in America endures.

00:15:07.000 That's a little hat tip to Robin D'Angelo: fragility.

00:15:11.000 I guarantee you that the term fragility, word fragility, has been used more in the last two years than in the last 20. 0.55

00:15:20.000 Of course, I'm talking about white fragility written by Robin D'Angelo.

00:15:24.000 I want to reread this paragraph.

00:15:26.000 And yes, we are going to go through the specifics because they even identify an architect behind this multi-billion dollar plan.

00:15:32.000 They identify tactics.

00:15:33.000 They identify how confident they were they were going to win.

00:15:39.000 I want to reread this paragraph.

00:15:41.000 That's why the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream.

00:15:53.000 Ian Basson says, quote, it's massively important for the country to understand that this did not happen accidentally.

00:16:00.000 The system didn't work magically.

00:16:02.000 Democracy is not self-executing.

00:16:04.000 Oh, so it's not about what people think.

00:16:06.000 It's about powerful people getting in and manipulating, changing laws, getting tech companies to interfere.

00:16:11.000 That's what democracy is.

00:16:14.000 So democracy is not actually what people's perceptions are.

00:16:17.000 You see, while we were focused on persuasion, they were focused on believing that it's not magical, self-executing.

00:16:25.000 No, no, no, it's about interference.

00:16:30.000 They admit it.

00:16:31.000 This guy, Ian Bastion, co-founder of Protect Democracy.

00:16:35.000 So for them, in order to protect democracy, we must destroy democracy.

00:16:43.000 I'm going to read this part again.

00:16:44.000 A well-funded cabal of powerful people ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage, and control the flow of information.

00:16:59.000 This reads like a February 2017 New York Times piece when they did a diagnostic report on the NRA and Cambridge Analytica and Paul Manafort and Roger Stone and Vladimir Putin.

00:17:13.000 Instead, it gets written about positively.

00:17:16.000 Okay, let's get to chapter one.

00:17:18.000 That's right.

00:17:18.000 We're still only on chapter one of this thing.

00:17:20.000 The architect, Mike Podhorzer.

00:17:26.000 He's the senior advisor to the president of the AFL-CIU, AFL-CIU, which is one of the largest labor unions in the country.

00:17:34.000 It actually is the nation's largest labor federation.

00:17:38.000 He started to bring together liberal strategists.

00:17:40.000 Now, let me be very clear.

00:17:42.000 They are painting him as the mastermind.

00:17:45.000 I don't think he's the mastermind.

00:17:48.000 I think that he's a fill-in for the actual mastermind that they didn't want to put in an article.

00:17:53.000 I think that he was probably involved.

00:17:55.000 I think that he's someone that is very unassuming.

00:17:58.000 He has a big organization to support him in case he came under criticism.

00:18:02.000 And I think that he was instrumental.

00:18:05.000 But if you read about this guy, there's no way that he was able to actually pull the weight together to do what they say he actually did.

00:18:12.000 But I think he was definitely influential.

00:18:14.000 But I already don't like this guy.

00:18:16.000 I'm going to tell you why I don't like this guy.

00:18:18.000 Not because he works for the FL-CIO, not because he tried to create a conspiracy, which is literally what Time magazine calls it, but for a different reason.

00:18:26.000 I'll tell you that in a sec. 0.73

00:18:28.000 But he's actually not dumb.

00:18:29.000 He says, quote, my basic take on politics is that all pretty obvious.

00:18:33.000 If you don't overthink it or swallow the prevailing frameworks whole.

00:18:37.000 After that, just relentlessly identify your assumptions and challenge them.

00:18:40.000 He believes that it should be less about political strategy and has little to do with how changes actually get made.

00:18:46.000 He's right.

00:18:47.000 Republicans are always about political strategy.

00:18:49.000 It's about sending direct mail.

00:18:51.000 It's about continually raising capital from certain areas where he's like, you need better tactics.

00:18:59.000 It's exactly what they did.

00:19:01.000 Now, speaking of tactics, the reason why I don't like this guy is it says, quote, Podhorzer applies that approach to everything.

00:19:10.000 When he coached his now adult son's Little League team in DC, he trained the boys not to swing at most pitches, a tactic that infuriated both their opponents, parents, but won the team a series of championships.

00:19:23.000 Okay, this is everything wrong with America.

00:19:26.000 As parents that teach their eight, nine, and 10-year-old kids not to swing.

00:19:31.000 Okay, here's why it bothers me so much.

00:19:33.000 Okay.

00:19:34.000 I couldn't stand this growing up.

00:19:36.000 When you're a 10-year-old pitcher, you're going to throw more balls than strikes.

00:19:42.000 You're gaming the system.

00:19:44.000 And there was a specific coach, I'm not going to say who, when I was growing up, that's all he did.

00:19:48.000 He would teach his team to just get walks the entire time.

00:19:54.000 And so in response, there was this huge committee meeting.

00:19:58.000 Again, this is probably too much information about what was P-H-Y-B-A.

00:20:02.000 That was the name of my baseball team growing up.

00:20:06.000 So we got a coalition of umpires together to expand the strike zone because it just got to be so ridiculous.

00:20:13.000 So this tells me everything I need to know about this guy.

00:20:15.000 Game the system at all costs.

00:20:18.000 When in reality, why are your kids playing baseball?

00:20:21.000 You might say, oh, yeah, to win.

00:20:23.000 Yeah, when they're 10 years old, they're playing baseball to enjoy the sport, figure it out, get some hand-eye coordination.

00:20:29.000 When they get to 14, 15, or 16-year-old, then, okay, yeah, then it's about winning.

00:20:33.000 And then the pitchers will be throwing more strikes than balls, okay?

00:20:37.000 But when they're 10 years old and they're throwing the ball all over North America, you want your kids to get in the game.

00:20:45.000 You want them to participate.

00:20:46.000 Anyway, that really bothered me, okay?

00:20:51.000 It continues by saying that Trump's election in 2016 is credited in part to his unusual strength amongst the sort of blue-collar white voters who once dominated the AFL-CIO.

00:21:02.000 Podhorzer found that to be a problem.

00:21:08.000 It turned out that Podhorzer wasn't the only one thinking in these terms.

00:21:13.000 I'm reading from the, if you're just tuning in, the conspiracy that won the 2020 election.

00:21:18.000 Their words, not mine.

00:21:21.000 He began to organize a coalition of resistance organizations and what called to be known the Democracy Defense Coalition.

00:21:30.000 It turned out that once you say it loud, people agreed and it started building momentum.

00:21:36.000 He spent months pondering scenarios and talking to experts.

00:21:39.000 It wasn't hard to find liberals who saw Trump as a dangerous dictator.

00:21:42.000 But Podhorzer was careful to steer clear of hysteria.

00:21:46.000 What he wanted to know was not how American democracy was dying, but how it might be kept alive.

00:21:53.000 So how did he do that?

00:21:55.000 Well, he built this alliance alongside others.

00:21:57.000 Again, I don't believe he was the chief architect behind it.

00:21:59.000 I think he was involved.

00:22:01.000 It continues by going to say, in April, Podhorzer began hosting two and a half hour weekly Zoom meetings.

00:22:09.000 It was structured around a series of rapid-fire five-minute presentations on everything from which ads were working to messaging to legal strategy.

00:22:17.000 It continued to say that, quote, at the risk of talking trash about the left, that's not a lot of good information sharing.

00:22:24.000 There's a lot of not yet invented here syndrome where people won't consider a good idea if they didn't come up with it.

00:22:31.000 The meetings became, this is a ridiculous way to describe it, a galactic center for a constellation of operatives.

00:22:37.000 Like be a little bit more dramatic, Molly Ball, okay?

00:22:40.000 Yes, and then they all boarded the Starship Enterprise and traveled at the speed of light until democracy was saved.

00:22:45.000 I got it, okay?

00:22:46.000 They went backwards in time like Superman, and together we're all able to enjoy a Biden presidency.

00:22:51.000 Okay, it's a little bit more dramatic.

00:22:54.000 The group had no name, no leaders, and no hierarchy.

00:22:56.000 Yeah, it sounds like the Paris Commune.

00:22:58.000 It sounds so wonderfully communistically egalitarian.

00:23:03.000 But it kept the distance, actors, in sync.

00:23:05.000 Quote, Pod played a critical role behind the scenes in keeping different pieces.

00:23:10.000 That's who they called Podrozer, of the movement, infrastructure, and communication and aligned.

00:23:15.000 You have the litigation space, you have the organizing space, the political people just focused on the W and their strategies aren't always aligned.

00:23:22.000 He got Greenpeace involved.

00:23:24.000 He got Black Lives Matter involved.

00:23:26.000 And then he got two other actors involved.

00:23:30.000 If you believe he's actually the architect here.

00:23:32.000 So I want to just reinforce this.

00:23:35.000 While conservatives, we were worried about messaging and persuasion and raising money.

00:23:41.000 They were worried about blocking and tackling.

00:23:44.000 They were worried about the way elections are actually conducted.

00:23:52.000 This is chapter three, securing the vote.

00:23:55.000 Yeah, they're just rubbing it in your face.

00:23:57.000 Securing the vote, which they actually was the opposite.

00:24:01.000 I want to just reread this.

00:24:04.000 Read this.

00:24:04.000 I haven't read it.

00:24:05.000 Obviously, I've read it personally.

00:24:06.000 I haven't read it out loud.

00:24:08.000 Understand, is this legal?

00:24:10.000 The first task was overhauling America's bulky election infrastructure in the middle of a pandemic.

00:24:16.000 Are you allowed to overhaul an election infrastructure with private money?

00:24:20.000 Because that's what they did.

00:24:24.000 For thousands of local, mostly nonpartisan officials who administer elections, the most urgent need was money.

00:24:30.000 Of course it was.

00:24:32.000 This is their rationale for why they needed the Zuckerberg money.

00:24:35.000 They needed masks, gloves, and hand sanitizer.

00:24:37.000 I kid you not.

00:24:38.000 That's what they write in here.

00:24:39.000 Hand sanitizer.

00:24:44.000 In March, they appealed to Congress and they got some money.

00:24:48.000 But then Mark Zuckerberg stepped up.

00:24:51.000 The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative chipped in $300 million.

00:24:56.000 We've been through this, the Center for Technology and Civic Life.

00:25:00.000 Quote, it was a failure at the federal level that 2,500 local election officials were forced to apply for philanthropic grants to fill their needs, says Amber McReynolds, a former Denver election official who heads the nonpartisan National Vote at Home Institute.

00:25:15.000 That's right, National Vote at Home Institute, which Jimmy Carter's own coalition shows that vote by mail is the most susceptible for fraud.

00:25:22.000 Her whole organization, funded by big tech centi-billionaires, not just billionaires, but they're worth $100 billion, centi-billionaires, are to make people vote at home.

00:25:35.000 McReynolds' two-year organization became a clearinghouse for a nation struggling to adapt.

00:25:42.000 With all of these hundreds of millions of dollars, the Institute gave secretaries of state from local parties technical advice on everything from which vendors to use to how to locate drop boxes.

00:25:52.000 Local officials are the most trusted sources of election information, but few can afford a press secretary.

00:25:56.000 So the Institute distributed communication toolkits.

00:25:59.000 Basically, private money came into public elections and started to dictate the way elections should be done.

00:26:05.000 Unconstitutional outside of state legislatures, outside of the consent of the local governed.

00:26:12.000 And we did not know a lot of this was happening in real time.

00:26:15.000 Why?

00:26:16.000 Where was the Republican infrastructure calling this out?

00:26:20.000 Where were the people that are dedicated to building secure and stable elections on our side?

00:26:27.000 And the answer is that we were too busy running network television ads, I guess.

00:26:37.000 Because we thought that was the way elections were won.

00:26:39.000 Meanwhile, Podroser, the guy that teaches kids not to swing and just win championships by getting walks, basically that told us they wanted to game the system.

00:26:51.000 They wanted to use whatever apparatus they could to get to their achieved desired outcome.

00:27:00.000 The Institute helped 37 states and Washington, D.C. bolster mail and voting.

00:27:05.000 But it wouldn't be worth much if people didn't take advantage.

00:27:07.000 Part of the challenge was logistical.

00:27:09.000 Each state had different rules for when and how ballots should be requested and returned.

00:27:13.000 The Voter Participation Center, which in a normal year would have deployed canvasers door to door, instead conducted focus groups to find out how people would get to vote by mail.

00:27:21.000 Quote, all the work we've done for 17 years was built for this moment of bringing democracy to people's doorsteps, the Vote by Mail National Home Institute said.

00:27:30.000 National Vote at Home Institute.

00:27:34.000 Hannah Freed said, quote, we had to get the message out.

00:27:37.000 This is safe, reliable, and you can trust it.

00:27:45.000 So you had all these liberal groups working in concert together, forming a conspiracy to their own admission.

00:27:56.000 You had hundreds of millions of dollars from tech companies coming in.

00:27:59.000 You had the way that elections were done actually changed.

00:28:01.000 You had the Chamber of Commerce and the AFL-CIO getting into total and complete handshake agreement with what needs to happen, but didn't stop there, actually.

00:28:12.000 They started filing lawsuits, pre-election litigation, to allow vote by mail to go with looser signature verification standards, to allow new voter registrations to go unchallenged from the Brennan Center of Justice at NYU.

00:28:28.000 In the end, nearly half the electorate cast ballots by mail in 2020.

00:28:33.000 Let me read this again.

00:28:37.000 While we as conservatives and Republicans were worrying about, I don't know what, Democrats said to our, said, how do we get the electorate to vote by mail?

00:28:46.000 Now, what's the significance to that?

00:28:47.000 Well, Jimmy Carter, the Democrat president himself, said that vote by mail is the least secure way of voting. 0.84

00:28:53.000 We've been through the practice of granny farming, the practice of ballot laundering, vote interception.

00:28:57.000 We've gone through all of that at length. 1.00

00:29:01.000 Half, let me say that again.

00:29:03.000 50% of all votes cast were by mail in 2020.

00:29:08.000 I'm sure in previous elections, it was 10 to 15%.

00:29:11.000 I'm just going off the top of my head, probably at most 20%.

00:29:14.000 I'm just guessing.

00:29:15.000 That's just on a pure inference of just what I know to be true, and we'll get that fact checked.

00:29:23.000 But it gets worse, everybody, because this liberal conspiracy, as described by Time magazine, went even further.

00:29:31.000 The disinformation defense.

00:29:33.000 Now, this is blowing up on social media.

00:29:35.000 So it says, quote, bad actors spreading false information is nothing new.

00:29:39.000 For decades, campaigns have grappled with everything from anonymous calls claiming the election has been rescheduled to flyers spreading nasty smears about the candidates' families.

00:29:47.000 But Trump's lies and conspiracy theories, the viral force of social media and involvement of foreign meddlers, made disinformation a broader, deeper threat to the 2020 vote.

00:29:57.000 The most important takeaway from Laura Quinn's research, who's a veteran progressive operative who co-founded Catalyst, said, quote, when you get attacked, the instinct is to push back, call it out, and say this isn't true.

00:30:09.000 But the more engagement something gets, the more the platform boosts it.

00:30:14.000 The algorithm reads that as, oh, this is popular.

00:30:16.000 People want more of it.

00:30:17.000 The solution, she concluded, is not to actually stand up for truth.

00:30:21.000 No, no, no, no.

00:30:23.000 The solution is to have platforms police that content against certain types of malign behavior.

00:30:32.000 But they haven't been enforcing them.

00:30:35.000 In November of 2019, Mark Zuckerberg invited nine civil rights leaders to dinner at his home.

00:30:42.000 Quote, it took pushing, urging conversations, brainstorming, all of that to get to a place where we ended up with a more rigorous rules and enforcement.

00:30:48.000 Vanita Gupta, the CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, said.

00:30:56.000 It was a struggle.

00:30:58.000 We got to the point where they understood the problem.

00:31:00.000 Was it enough?

00:31:01.000 Probably not.

00:31:01.000 Was it later than we wanted?

00:31:03.000 But it was really important, given the level of official disinformation, that they had rules in place and tagging things and taking them down.

00:31:03.000 Yes.

00:31:13.000 They also attended dinners with Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey and others.

00:31:18.000 Now, of course, Dorsey and Zuckerberg never met with conservatives.

00:31:24.000 Where conservatives were worried about content that very well could be election interference being taken down, our posts being taken down.

00:31:31.000 Why?

00:31:32.000 Because we as conservatives do a very poor job of threatening a boycott if we don't get what we want.

00:31:41.000 What do we do?

00:31:42.000 We say, can you please stop censoring us?

00:31:44.000 I don't like it.

00:31:45.000 Whereas liberals will go in and meet with Zuckerberg and say, if you do not do something about disinformation, we will be relentless in our boycott of you.

00:31:52.000 You'll have employee revolts.

00:31:54.000 You'll have problems like you will not believe.

00:31:55.000 And they listened.

00:31:58.000 And so while we were worried about placing Facebook ads to get Donald Trump reelected, Democrat activist advocacy groups weren't worried about Facebook advertisement.

00:32:08.000 They were instead worried about Facebook interference.

00:32:11.000 And it says it very simply.

00:32:14.000 Why were we as conservatives not doing this ourselves?

00:32:17.000 Why were we as conservatives not using the infrastructure that we control to protect the republic?

00:32:24.000 Why were we not getting unified at least amongst one shared objective and demanding fair, free, and open elections?

00:32:33.000 That is a solution that we must look towards as we see the secret history of the shadow campaign that saved the 2020 election.

00:32:40.000 And if you're listening to this and you're wondering, how did Joe Biden become president?

00:32:47.000 Well, they're now openly writing and admitting how it happened.

00:32:51.000 Powerful people flexed their muscles and they said, we do not want our kleptocracy to be put in jeopardy.

00:32:58.000 And we're going to do it under the disguise, the camouflage of protecting our democracy. 0.51

00:33:04.000 We're going to double the amount of mail and votes.

00:33:07.000 We're going to fund hand sanitizer stations, which ends up being financial assistance for heavily Democrat vote counting areas.

00:33:18.000 And most critically, we're going to get involved in the tech companies to shut up the other side.

00:33:24.000 This story is really extraordinary.

00:33:29.000 The secret history of the shadow campaign that saved the 2020 elections.

00:33:33.000 Saved.

00:33:35.000 So let's just focus on the title for a second.

00:33:38.000 Secret, shadow, saved.

00:33:41.000 This is glorifying in a positive narrative light, powerful people changing the way our country is run because you don't actually know how bad Trump is.

00:33:54.000 Basically, that's the thesis of this entire article.

00:33:57.000 It goes through chapter and chapter of disinformation defense of how this group went to the tech companies and demanded they take down conservative voices.

00:34:07.000 It goes down to spreading the word, which is where we'll pick up on this by Molly Ball at Time magazine.

00:34:13.000 They wrote this.

00:34:17.000 Beyond battling bad information, there is a need to expand a rapidly changing election process.

00:34:23.000 It was crucial for voters to understand that despite what Trump was saying, mail and votes weren't susceptible to fraud.

00:34:27.000 And that it would be normal if some states weren't finished counting votes on election night.

00:34:32.000 The Voting Rights Lab and Into Action created state-specific memes and graphics spread by email, text, Twitter, Facebook, or TikTok, urging every vote to be counted.

00:34:43.000 Now, what's stunning, this was $20 million put behind this effort.

00:34:48.000 Dick Gephardt raised $20 million from his, quote, contacts in the private sector.

00:34:55.000 $20 million for an advocacy campaign to tell people to be patient that votes are going to take a long time to count.

00:35:02.000 How did they know that?

00:35:03.000 Because there was a conspiracy.

00:35:05.000 Not my words, Molly Ball's words.

00:35:09.000 By the way, people are saying, I wonder where all these people think that conspiracy theories are coming from.

00:35:14.000 You're admitting that there's literally a conspiracy.

00:35:16.000 Don't be stunned when people then go to the message boards after they read an article like this.

00:35:20.000 Now, should people go to the message boards?

00:35:22.000 No. 0.81

00:35:23.000 Should people believe that what Viking Q-Man Shaman believes?

00:35:26.000 No.

00:35:27.000 Of course not.

00:35:28.000 I'm not validating it.

00:35:31.000 I'm instead saying, don't be surprised when all of a sudden you have a legitimate conspiracy that's written about in positive terms about, again, I'm going to read this.

00:35:40.000 It's actually so.

00:35:41.000 Maybe she just did this to be provocative, Molly Ball.

00:35:45.000 It is the story of an unprecedented, creative, and determined campaign whose success also reveals how close the nation came to disaster.

00:35:53.000 That's why the participants want the secret history.

00:35:56.000 Apologize for that.

00:35:56.000 This is it.

00:35:57.000 Want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream, a well-funded cabal of powerful people ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change the rule of laws, steer media coverage, and control the flow of information.

00:36:10.000 Thank you, Connor.

00:36:11.000 I knew it was in there somewhere.

00:36:13.000 Let's continue on their own admission of this report.

00:36:21.000 Spreading the word.

00:36:24.000 The Alliance took a common set of themes from the research Shanker Osorio presented at Podhorser's Zooms.

00:36:30.000 Remember, Podhorser is the guy that teaches his kids not to swing when they're nine-year-olds in Little League.

00:36:39.000 When you say, quote, these claims are fraud of fraud are spurious, what people hear is fraud.

00:36:45.000 But we saw in our pre-election research that anything that reaffirmed Trump's power, cast him as an authoritarian, diminished people's desire to vote.

00:36:53.000 Next chapter, people power.

00:36:56.000 The racial justice uprising sparked by George Floyd's killing in May was not primarily a political movement.

00:37:02.000 The organizers who helped lead it wanted to harness its momentum for the election without allowing it to be co-opted by politicians.

00:37:07.000 Many of the organizers were part of Podhorser's network from the activists in Battleground States who partnered with the Democracy Defense Coalition to organize with leading roles in the movement for black lives. 0.59

00:37:19.000 We knew that the BLM Incorporated movement was going to be used against Trump.

00:37:25.000 What we didn't know is that more than 150 liberal groups joined together from Sierra Club to Color of Change to Women's March to the Democrat Socialists of America to the Protect the Results Coalition.

00:37:41.000 400 planned post-election demonstrations were possibly going to happen to be activated via text message as soon as November 4th to stop the coup they feared.

00:37:52.000 The left was ready to flood the streets.

00:37:55.000 So basically what this admits is that at a moment's notice, through an artificial AstroTurf, billionaire-funded Chamber of Commerce constructed program, millions of people could flood to the streets at a moment's notice.

00:38:10.000 But we're supposed to believe it's all organic.

00:38:11.000 People are so upset.

00:38:14.000 They were ready to mobilize in massive numbers.

00:38:18.000 The next chapter, Strange Bedfellows.

00:38:21.000 The Chamber of Commerce, which represents open borders, big tech dominance, and is really the Chamber of China, made great friends with the AFL-CIO because Donald Trump was a threat to both the AFL-CIO because he was actually winning over their membership at great disgust of their leaders, and the Chamber of Commerce is very upset that we have better trade deals, our borders were secure, and American workers finally had a voice.

00:38:47.000 However, the leadership of the Chamber of Commerce and the leadership of the AFL-CIO are actually very similar.

00:38:52.000 They're ruling class people that pretend to represent the needs, wants, and interests of normal people.

00:38:59.000 They sent a, quote, broader and bipartisan message.

00:39:03.000 They chose their words carefully and scheduled the statement's release for maximum impact.

00:39:09.000 The groups added, although we might disagree on desired outcomes up and down the ballot, we are unified in our call for American democratic process to proceed without violence, intimidation, or any other tactics that make us look weaker as a nation.

00:39:21.000 The next chapter, showing up, standing down.

00:39:24.000 Election night began with many Democrats despairing.

00:39:28.000 Trump was running ahead of pre-election polling, winning Florida, Ohio, and Texas easily and keeping Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania too close to call.

00:39:35.000 But Podhorzer, no, no, no, he was unperturbed.

00:39:38.000 When I spoke to him that night, the results were exactly in line with his modeling.

00:39:42.000 How did he know?

00:39:45.000 It's a lot for just an advisor to the FLCIO to know.

00:39:49.000 He'd been warning for weeks that Trump's voters turnout was surging.

00:39:53.000 And as the numbers dribbled out, he could tell that as long as the votes were counted, Trump would lose.

00:40:00.000 He had a Liberal Alliance 11 p.m. Zoom call, and many people were freaking out.

00:40:05.000 He said it was very important for me and my team in that moment to help ground people what we already knew was true.

00:40:10.000 Liberal groups wanted to protest in the street.

00:40:12.000 Podhorzer said don't.

00:40:15.000 So the word went out: stand down.

00:40:18.000 Isn't that awfully authoritative?

00:40:18.000 That's weird.

00:40:22.000 Stand down.

00:40:24.000 Protect the results announced that it quote not be activating the entire National Mobilization Network today, but remains ready to activate if necessary.

00:40:32.000 Podhorzer credits the activists for their restraint.

00:40:36.000 Wednesday through Friday, there was not a single Antifa versus Proud Boys incident like everyone was expecting.

00:40:41.000 And when that didn't materialize, I don't think the Trump campaign had a backup plan.

00:40:45.000 It's ridiculous to say that, as if the Trump campaign wanted some sort of confrontation. 0.97

00:40:49.000 It's ridiculous. 0.66

00:40:51.000 Activists, though, reoriented the Protect the Results protest towards a weekend of celebration.

00:40:56.000 Now, to credit these guys, to credit Podhorzer and all these guys, it was very smart.

00:41:00.000 Go celebrate, and it's hard to retract public opinion after you're celebrating in the streets.

00:41:05.000 Once you declare victory and the media goes alongside it, it feels as if the race is over and everything you're trying to do is to undo an election, even though votes are still being counted, even though things are still being figured out in the courts.

00:41:16.000 Very smart by Podhorzer.

00:41:19.000 Unethical?

00:41:20.000 Sure.

00:41:20.000 Smart?

00:41:21.000 Yes. 1.00

00:41:24.000 Quote, we made them look ridiculous by contrasting our joyous celebration of democracy with their clown show. 0.99

00:41:30.000 The votes had been counted. 0.97

00:41:31.000 Actually, they hadn't all been counted.

00:41:32.000 Trump had lost, but the battle wasn't over.

00:41:36.000 I hope you understand what you're listening to here.

00:41:39.000 This is an admission that the way we do elections in our country have changed forever.

00:41:46.000 It's now a war game for powerful people to get their desired outcome.

00:41:50.000 The five steps to victory.

00:41:52.000 We are reading from the Time magazine the secret strategy that Shadow campaigned and saved America, whatever the title is.

00:42:00.000 In Podhorzer's presentation, winning the vote was only the first step to winning the election.

00:42:04.000 After that came winning the count, winning the certification, winning the Electoral College, and winning the transition.

00:42:10.000 They were so much more organized than we were.

00:42:13.000 It's unbelievable.

00:42:16.000 I want to go to one example here that's pretty unbelievable.

00:42:20.000 Do you remember when President Trump met with the Republican legislators from Michigan?

00:42:28.000 You remember when he flew them out to the White House?

00:42:31.000 Well, it's mentioned here in the article.

00:42:34.000 There was a perilous moment.

00:42:36.000 If Chatfield and Shirky, which are the two GOP leaders in Michigan, agreed to do Trump's bidding, which is just voter integrity, Republicans in other states might be similarly bullied.

00:42:50.000 Quote, I was concerned things were going to get weird.

00:42:53.000 Describe it as the scariest moment of the entire election.

00:42:56.000 Guys, there was a moment when the left was worried that a widespread investigation might actually clarify what ended up happening.

00:43:04.000 And the state legislators stood down.

00:43:06.000 What this article is telling you is that the state legislatures had the power all along and they refused to use it.

00:43:14.000 That's what the liberals are admitting that they were on defense for a moment.

00:43:21.000 But the democracy defenders, that's what they call themselves, the Avengers, the nice people, the wonderful people that the powerful people that saved our country, thank you, launched a full court press, protect democracy's local context, researched lawmakers' personal and political motives.

00:43:37.000 Okay, so they ran opposition research immediately.

00:43:40.000 Issue one ran TV ads and Lansing.

00:43:42.000 The Chambers Bradley kept close tabs on the process.

00:43:45.000 Wamp, the former Republican congressman, called his former colleague Mike Rogers and wrote an op-ed for the Detroit newspapers urging officials to honor the will of the voters, even though we don't know what the will of the voters are, because there's no investigation.

00:43:56.000 You mean the will of the Biden campaign.

00:43:58.000 That's what you're saying.

00:44:00.000 Three former Michigan governors, John Engler, Rick Snyder, and Democrat Jennifer Granholm, jointly called the Michigan electoral votes to be cast free of pressure from the White House.

00:44:10.000 So what ended up happening?

00:44:12.000 Well, the pro-democracy forces, what unbelievably deceiving framing, Time magazine.

00:44:17.000 The pro-democracy forces, basically the good guys, were up against a Trump, Trumpified Michigan GOP, controlled by allies of Ronna McDaniel, Betsy DeVos, and a member of a billionaire family of GOP donors.

00:44:33.000 Got it.

00:44:33.000 So it was the democracy forces up against the evil Republicans.

00:44:37.000 Unbelievable.

00:44:38.000 To just an untrained eye, this reads is like a good versus evil story. 0.69

00:44:46.000 So then they came up with this ridiculous theory that Trump was going to bribe the legislators when they came to the White House.

00:44:54.000 Quote, of course he's going to try and offer them something.

00:44:57.000 Head of the Space Force, ambassador to wherever.

00:44:59.000 We can't compete with that by offering carrots.

00:45:01.000 We need a stick. 0.92

00:45:02.000 So then they had this ridiculous op-ed. 0.91

00:45:04.000 I remember reading this op-ed and be like, why are they doing this? 0.92

00:45:07.000 Well, here's why.

00:45:09.000 Richard Primus was then contacted by Basson, a law professor at University of Michigan, to see if Primus agreed and would make the argument publicly.

00:45:17.000 Primus said he thought the meeting itself was inappropriate, and he got to work on an op-ed for Politico.

00:45:22.000 So let me be straight.

00:45:22.000 You had an activist that called through their tickler file, go through their little tickler.

00:45:27.000 Again, if you don't know a tickler file, it's just an old expression for a Rolodex, okay?

00:45:31.000 Goes through it and finds a professor, contacts the professor without the professor actually being interested in the story, and activates the professor who has a lot of credibility to then go write the op-ed to go confirm their political narrative.

00:45:48.000 That's called a conspiracy, because Time magazine calls it.

00:45:51.000 So you have a professor who's at University of Michigan who's obviously liberal with a lot of credentials, then who gets contacted by an activist, says, hey, do you agree with this?

00:46:01.000 Yeah, sure, I agree.

00:46:02.000 Perfect.

00:46:03.000 Here's Politico.com.

00:46:04.000 Write the op-ed.

00:46:05.000 We'll get on the front page really quickly.

00:46:09.000 The piece posted on November 19th, the Attorney General's Communications Director tweeted it.

00:46:13.000 So then they give it to the Michigan Attorney General to tweet the article from the Michigan professor to then say that these lawmakers might get bribed and they all might go to jail.

00:46:26.000 But no evidence whatsoever to support any of this, by the way.

00:46:30.000 Just like pure gaslighting conjecture.

00:46:32.000 It's like, this might happen.

00:46:34.000 We don't like it.

00:46:35.000 Get the professor, write the op-ed.

00:46:36.000 The attorney general tweets it out, but it gets worse than that.

00:46:39.000 Rea's activists scanned flight schedules and flocked to airports on both ends of Shirky's journey to D.C.

00:46:46.000 I don't even think that's legal, first of all, okay?

00:46:49.000 To underscore that the lawmakers were being scrutinized.

00:46:52.000 After the meeting, the pair announced they pressed the president to deliver COVID relief for their constituents and informed them they saw no role in the election process.

00:46:59.000 Here's what it gets creepy.

00:47:00.000 They then went for a drink at the Trump Hotel, and a street artist projected their images onto the outside of the building along with the words, the world is watching.

00:47:08.000 That only got inserted into the article because the cabal was in favor of that.

00:47:12.000 My goodness, do we have a lot to learn from the left?

00:47:15.000 And I say that non-sarcastically, tactically, strategically.

00:47:19.000 The moment that we started the call for state legislators to get involved in the election integrity process, what happened?

00:47:27.000 They launched ads.

00:47:28.000 They tracked flight logs.

00:47:30.000 They accused potential bribery.

00:47:32.000 They got professors writing articles, state attorney general putting people on notice.

00:47:36.000 So when the state legislators from Michigan who got invited by the president actually visited, they didn't even talk about the election.

00:47:40.000 They just talked about COVID relief.

00:47:43.000 And that was it.

00:47:43.000 And they had lawyers with them.

00:47:46.000 They go to the Trump Hotel for a drink, and a street artist just happens to have a sign that says the world is watching.

00:47:51.000 Oh, so convenient.

00:47:54.000 Like that, the entire liberal infrastructure went into place.

00:47:58.000 Where was our conservative infrastructure defending these lawmakers, putting the equal amount of pressure, praising them to do this?

00:48:11.000 Too busy trying to create plans to invade Burma or something.

00:48:16.000 I don't know. 0.95

00:48:17.000 All right.

00:48:19.000 The next part of this is stunning.

00:48:25.000 The secret history of the shadow campaign that saved the 2020 election.

00:48:30.000 The cabal of interests that came together in an unprecedented, creative, and determined campaign to save democracy, as we know it.

00:48:43.000 The one last step, the state canvassing board made up of two Democrats and two Republicans, one Republican, a Trumper.

00:48:50.000 That's how they describe Americans, a Trumper.

00:48:54.000 That's in Time magazine, the word Trumper, not Trump supporter, not someone who voted for Trump, not Republican, but this one Republican, a Trumper employed by the DeVos's family political nonprofit.

00:49:09.000 That's it.

00:49:09.000 This guy's entire life is now just being called a Trumper.

00:49:14.000 Don't try to tell me that's not meant to try to be a pejorative.

00:49:17.000 When the meeting began, Reyes' activists flooded the live stream and filled Twitter with their hashtag, quote, all eyes on MI, all eyes on Michigan.

00:49:27.000 A board accustomed to attendance in the single digits, suddenly faced an audience of thousands.

00:49:32.000 In hours of testimony, the activists emphasized their message of respecting voters' wishes and affirming democracy rather than scolding the officials.

00:49:39.000 I thought that tech companies had rules against mass mobilization of coordinated messaging.

00:49:44.000 Tech companies seem to not like that when conservatives do that.

00:49:49.000 Tech companies actually have banned conservative accounts for massive mobilization of unified messaging.

00:49:54.000 Art Reyes III.

00:49:56.000 Reyes, a Flint native who leads the We the People, Michigan.

00:50:01.000 For months.

00:50:03.000 Okay, he's a left-wing activist.

00:50:05.000 So Reyes admits that he just violated tech companies' terms of service, which, again, doesn't mean anything.

00:50:12.000 I mean, if you're a leftist, you're allowed to do that.

00:50:15.000 The vote was 3-0 to certify.

00:50:17.000 The other Republicans abstained.

00:50:20.000 After that, the dominoes fell.

00:50:21.000 Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, the rest of the state certified their electors.

00:50:24.000 Republican officials in Arizona and Georgia stood up to Trump's bullying, and the Electoral College voted on the scheduled day of December 14th.

00:50:32.000 The final chapter of how the powerful people saved our country.

00:50:38.000 How close we came.

00:50:40.000 The last milestone was January 6th.

00:50:47.000 Remember, we mentioned how curious it was that there were no counter protesters to all the people that were in D.C. that day.

00:50:54.000 Remember, that was something that we mentioned on the day of The certification.

00:51:01.000 We were sitting right here denouncing what happened at the Capitol.

00:51:04.000 And we saw that, we were like, that's kind of strange how there's no counter protesters.

00:51:07.000 It was there for a reason.

00:51:08.000 It was that way for a reason.

00:51:10.000 Podhoser said: quote, we strenuously discouraged any counteractivity.

00:51:21.000 It was planned not to go.

00:51:25.000 Left-wing activists are pressuring the newly empowered Democrats to remember the voters who put them there, while civil rights groups are on a guard against further attacks on voting.

00:51:34.000 Business leaders denounce the January 6th attack, and some say they'll no longer donate to lawmakers who refers to certify Biden's victory.

00:51:40.000 Podhorser and his allies are still holding their Zoom strategy sessions, gauging voters' views, and developing new messages.

00:51:47.000 That's the biggest takeaway of this whole article.

00:51:50.000 This is not written looking historically.

00:51:55.000 It's still going on.

00:51:58.000 Podhorser, who is being called the architect of this entire thing, which is very hard to believe, is still holding his meetings.

00:52:08.000 And now they're continuing to go.

00:52:09.000 They're not going to give up.

00:52:10.000 They have cracked the code in their mind.

00:52:13.000 Ah, we control every institution: academia, attorney general's offices, the civil service, the bureaucracies, the corporations, the media, the tech companies.

00:52:25.000 Now let's use them and make America in our image.

00:52:29.000 That's what Podhorser is focused on.

00:52:36.000 To not actually ever be interested in governing, but under the camouflage, under the disguise, under the vapor, under the mirage of protecting democracy.

00:52:55.000 They are going to continue to bully companies.

00:52:58.000 They're going to continue to pressure social media companies.

00:53:02.000 They're going to continue to try to change the way we do elections to keep themselves permanently in power.

00:53:07.000 This is not a one-off.

00:53:10.000 This is now a blueprint.

00:53:13.000 This is now a playbook.

00:53:15.000 The secret history of the shadow campaign that saved the 2020 election.

00:53:21.000 This is not something where they just are going to disassemble this.

00:53:24.000 This is how they're going to do it from this point forward.

00:53:27.000 So, what are the big takeaways?

00:53:29.000 Number one, the left is just now realizing how much power they really have over us.

00:53:37.000 I think they're still learning how to use that power.

00:53:43.000 Number two, the left is willing at almost all costs to sacrifice truth for power.

00:53:53.000 Number three, persuasion means very little when the other side is actually concerned of how the election is going to be conducted.

00:54:02.000 You know, we joked around throughout the last couple, the first couple weeks after early November, after the election, we said it doesn't matter how people vote.

00:54:09.000 It matters who counts the votes.

00:54:10.000 Remember, we joked about that.

00:54:12.000 Well, they say here, in Podhorzer's presentations, winning the vote was only the first step to winning the election.

00:54:22.000 After that came winning the count.

00:54:24.000 Winning the count.

00:54:25.000 Can you believe it?

00:54:27.000 Not just what people think, but actually how the votes are counted.

00:54:31.000 Winning the certification, winning the Electoral College, and winning the transition.

00:54:37.000 This is now going to be how they will handle every single election from this point forward.

00:54:46.000 Vote by mail is here whether we like it or not.

00:54:49.000 We have to push back against HR1 at all costs.

00:54:52.000 They're going to try to make nationwide vote by mail the new standard and the new norm.

00:55:00.000 We're still worried about political strategy and all that sort of stuff.

00:55:05.000 While they are now focused on raising hundreds of millions of dollars from the private sector for corporations, which is nothing more than pseudo-extortion, to change the way elections are done, to supplement local and state election protocols, and to say that anyone that dares say that if you should not be able to vote by mail on MAS, then you actually hate the country and you're a racist.

00:55:27.000 This, as Time magazine calls it, the unprecedented, creative, and determined campaign is now going to become a pattern.

00:55:35.000 So, what do we actually do about it?

00:55:39.000 Well, we still control a lot of these state legislatures.

00:55:44.000 But let me tell you the real reason why this article was written.

00:55:49.000 The real reason wasn't just about pride.

00:55:51.000 It wasn't just about victory lapse.

00:55:53.000 That's part of it.

00:55:55.000 The real reason is that this article is only about 10% of the story.

00:56:01.000 The real reason is that they're trying to set the narrative early, trying to admit that there was a clandestine aspect of it, take the little bit of the mockery and the hit from the right, and move on.

00:56:12.000 This article is not a mistake.

00:56:15.000 This was written by Molly Ball and Leslie Dickenstein, Maria Espada, and Simone Shah.

00:56:21.000 What I'm saying here is that the people behind this are worried that if they don't tell the story, somebody else will.

00:56:31.000 The people behind this, from Pod Horror to Reyes to the social media people, there's more to this than just this Time magazine.

00:56:43.000 There's a lot more to voting practices, to communications, to flow of information, to how this was not about protecting democracy, it was about destroying Trump.

00:56:55.000 And I guarantee you that text messages, emails, documents illustrate that boldly and clearly.

00:57:02.000 What this is right here is no different than Andrew McCabe writing his book before other people were able to tell his story for him.

00:57:11.000 That's what this is.

00:57:13.000 It is a common tactic by the left where you do something shadowy, shadow campaign.

00:57:22.000 And it's a PR strategy that is employed only if you own the instruments of communication.

00:57:28.000 It's a PR strategy that only works if you have complete control over almost every single sentence and paragraph.

00:57:35.000 The PR strategy is this: don't admit fault, but expose the potential attack against you, which then invalidates the future criticism and pose yourself as the hero where the ends justified the means, and therefore people will protect you.

00:57:59.000 So, for Pod Drozer here, yeah, Podhorser, he might be a little worried that some of the activity that he was coordinating might not look very good when the entire story is actually told.

00:58:14.000 So, how do you get up against that?

00:58:15.000 How do you actually deflect against that future criticism?

00:58:19.000 How do you push back against what might be a multi-month, multi-year investigation?

00:58:23.000 Well, you admit that there was something shadowy going on, but it was actually awesome and it saved the country.

00:58:27.000 That's what you do.

00:58:30.000 You invite Time magazine right into your inner circle.

00:58:33.000 You convince them that, yes, it was shadowy.

00:58:35.000 Yes, it was secret.

00:58:37.000 Yes, it was a cabal.

00:58:38.000 Yes, it was multi-pronged interests.

00:58:40.000 But if you tell the story the way we want you to tell it, people will actually get behind it because we're actually the secret society that saved America.

00:58:51.000 This is only more reason to investigate.

00:58:55.000 This document is not the end of the conversation.

00:59:00.000 It should be the beginning of one.

00:59:04.000 Because there's a million questions to be asked about every single aspect of this.

00:59:10.000 The coordination, the potential deployment of activists that could be violent in the streets, all of it.

00:59:19.000 But they wanted to tell the story.

00:59:21.000 Because they're worried there might be something that might be found out that won't fit their preferred narrative.

00:59:27.000 Speaking of typical liberal PR strategies, whenever they come under fire or accusation, immediately the entire left-wing infrastructure from the media to academia comes in and protects their own.

00:59:39.000 That's what Peter happened to Peter Strzok, gets a job at Georgetown Law.

00:59:42.000 It's what happened to James Comey.

00:59:44.000 It's what happened to Lisa Page.

00:59:45.000 Andrew McCabe gets a contributorship at CNN.

00:59:48.000 No different than Hunter Biden.

00:59:50.000 And I would like to congratulate Hunter Biden for now being the number one best-selling author in Chinese biographies on Amazon.com.

01:00:00.000 Not joking.

01:00:00.000 It is a real thing.

01:00:02.000 He is a number one bestseller in Chinese biographies, Amazon.com.

01:00:07.000 I'm not exactly sure how that ended up happening.

01:00:09.000 But yes, Hunter Biden is coming out with a book, a memoir.

01:00:13.000 And just how the media has not demanded the laptop and questions and follow-up and Tony Bobulinsky.

01:00:20.000 I feel bad for Tony Bobulinsky.

01:00:22.000 He's going to be audited every single year for the rest of his life.

01:00:25.000 And he's going to have the entire full weight of the government come after him in every way, shape, or form.

01:00:30.000 But Hunter Biden, as it came out that he was under investigation for tax issues back in December, all of a sudden now he comes out with a memoir that says beautiful things, a memoir by Hunter Biden.

01:00:46.000 Beautiful things.

01:00:46.000 I wonder if he'll talk about the beautiful Chinese deals that he did with his father.

01:00:52.000 That's the strategy left, and that's exactly the strategy that was in this article of Time magazine, the Secret History of the Shadow campaign that saved the 2020 election.

01:01:00.000 They want to tell their story first before the facts actually come out and might look them a little less favorably.

01:01:05.000 That's what McCabe did.

01:01:06.000 It's what Page did, what Strzok did.

01:01:07.000 Comey, didn't Comey write a book?

01:01:10.000 That's what Andrew Cuomo did.

01:01:11.000 Andrew Cuomo wrote a book.

01:01:13.000 Meanwhile, we're finding out there's all this nursing home stuff.

01:01:15.000 Cuomo writes this long meandering.

01:01:17.000 It is a typical Democrat strategy, which is to get ahead of the narrative.

01:01:22.000 The gated institutional narrative will protect you insofar that you do one very simple thing.

01:01:30.000 Obey.

01:01:31.000 Don't challenge.

01:01:32.000 Don't be disruptive.

01:01:34.000 And all the power structure will defend you.

01:01:37.000 Why is it that Simon ⁇ Schuster is okay with publishing the book for Hunter Biden, but not Josh Hawley?

01:01:44.000 Is that right?

01:01:46.000 So Josh Hawley, domestic terrorist, Timothy McVay, keep him away from us.

01:01:51.000 Hunter Biden, sure, come on in.

01:01:55.000 That's the way the systems of power work in our country.

01:02:00.000 And that's all the more reason why we must look into this article that's now been written at Time magazine.

01:02:05.000 Let me tell you very clearly.

01:02:07.000 They're worried that as these state legislatures start looking into things, they're worried as more and more documents start to come to the surface that the story is not going to be told as glamorously as the democracy defending Avenger squad.

01:02:21.000 They're worried that there might, and I don't want to speculate.

01:02:24.000 I'm just saying there is no reason why they would grant this kind of access just to try to get credit.

01:02:30.000 The only reason they would try to grant this kind of access and grant these kind of interviews is that there's a press liability that they're worried about.

01:02:39.000 And I think this article spiraled out of control more than I think they would have wanted, where Molly Ball revealed the entire playbook of the Democrat technocratic left.

01:02:50.000 Not about persuasion, not about polling, not about trying to change people's minds.

01:02:55.000 Instead, it's how do we use the instruments of power to accomplish our goal?

01:02:59.000 How do we silence our opponents?

01:03:00.000 How do we kick them off social media?

01:03:01.000 How do we change the way elections are done?

01:03:03.000 How do we make sure no one asks questions? 0.93

01:03:05.000 How do we harass the lawmakers that might want to actually look into this?

01:03:08.000 How do we use professors and state attorney generals to publicize unfounded theories around this?

01:03:15.000 And what does she call it?

01:03:16.000 A conspiracy.

01:03:20.000 Forget message board conspiracy theories.

01:03:22.000 We got one right in front of us that they're admitting. 1.00

01:03:25.000 We don't need the Q Shaman thing. 1.00

01:03:27.000 We don't need the Viking man. 0.98

01:03:29.000 We got this right here.

01:03:31.000 And what's going to be stunning about this is how the media will now categorize this.

01:03:35.000 Either they're going to ignore it, or if my prediction is right, they are going to elevate the democracy defenders and put them on television.

01:03:45.000 The crew of people that helped save the country from Trump's attempted coup d'état, which is all nonsense.

01:03:54.000 This article right here shows that these investigations must continue.

01:04:00.000 These questions must persist.

01:04:03.000 The secret history of the shadow campaign that saved the 2020 election.

01:04:09.000 The real title should be The Secret Plan of the Shadow Operation That Silenced Your Voice.

01:04:18.000 That's the article that should have been written.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - February 06, 2021

How They Did It: The 'Conspiracy' to Defeat Donald Trump

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