The Charlie Kirk Show - How To Be a Bold Man — LIVE from Generation Church

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00:02:42.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:02:44.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

00:02:46.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:02:49.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:02:53.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:02:54.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:02:55.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:02:56.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.

00:03:02.000 Turning point USA. 0.65

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00:03:40.000 Hey, watching it backstage.

00:03:40.000 Oh, man.

00:03:42.000 Thanks for being with us.

00:03:43.000 Thank you.

00:03:43.000 Yeah, man.

00:03:44.000 You're doing a great job.

00:03:45.000 Thank you.

00:03:46.000 Well, a little bit about Charlie.

00:03:47.000 Those of you guys who don't know him, he was an Eagle Scout at a young age.

00:03:53.000 Technically, still am.

00:03:54.000 You don't stop.

00:03:55.000 Okay, that's a good point.

00:03:56.000 So those of you that are Eagle Scouts, you know that it's He's the founder of Turning Point USA.

00:04:03.000 Yeah.

00:04:06.000 And he is hosted the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:04:08.000 At one point, he was named to Forbes' 30 under 30 list, which is a crazy.

00:04:14.000 Has one of the top 10 most engaged Twitter, formerly known as Twitter X accounts.

00:04:20.000 Sounds so dirty.

00:04:21.000 Yeah.

00:04:23.000 I don't have a top 10 X account.

00:04:25.000 That doesn't.

00:04:27.000 No.

00:04:28.000 He's an author, a husband, a father.

00:04:32.000 And I can tell you this, this is true.

00:04:34.000 Charlie is a devoted follower of Jesus Christ.

00:04:43.000 And I know with how much notoriety he has, you might wonder, like, well, what's he really like?

00:04:48.000 I can just tell you from time with him in private, he's humble, he's kind, he cares about people, and he really does exhibit Jesus and how he carries himself.

00:04:58.000 So he's a real deal.

00:04:59.000 I just want to honor you for that.

00:05:01.000 That's very kind.

00:05:01.000 Thank you.

00:05:02.000 Thank you, Rand.

00:05:02.000 Thank you.

00:05:06.000 So I was hoping to just kind of start with this.

00:05:09.000 Could you give us some of the backstory of you going from a young man who was first year college student, I believe, and you ended up starting Turning Point USA at a young age?

00:05:22.000 Can you just kind of talk about what that was like and what led up to that?

00:05:26.000 And when did it become clear to you that that was God's calling for your life?

00:05:30.000 Yeah, again, honored to be here, everybody.

00:05:32.000 So, yeah, I mean, I started Turning Point USA when I was 18 years old.

00:05:36.000 Prior to that, in fifth grade, I gave my life to the Lord, most important decision I made in my life.

00:05:42.000 And we need to talk as men more openly about that and how everything else in life is cool and fine, but that is the most important decision.

00:05:52.000 And so that really set me on a course to pursue truth.

00:05:56.000 I believe the center of everything we believe as Christians is the truth, not lies.

00:05:59.000 And we should seek truth in everything that we do.

00:06:02.000 And so when I was 18 years old, I wanted to go to West Point, didn't get in, decided to take a gap year.

00:06:07.000 It's been 11 gap years since then.

00:06:10.000 We'll see if I go back.

00:06:12.000 And there's one narrative in the Bible, one story in the Bible that just pops open, which there's really two starts to the Bible.

00:06:20.000 There's Genesis 1-1 and then Genesis 12-1.

00:06:24.000 Genesis 12-1 is really the beginning of the Hebrews, right?

00:06:27.000 Abram, because everything before that, you have Cain and Abel, Noah, and then obviously ends with the city of Babel.

00:06:32.000 And then there's this guy that comes out of nowhere, Abram.

00:06:36.000 And basically the first couple of verses is, leave your father's home and go on an adventure.

00:06:40.000 And that's as close as the story to Turning Point USA.

00:06:44.000 And I didn't go to Egypt or try to sell my wife to Pharaoh, but that's a separate issue.

00:06:48.000 So, but, you know, did have narrowly avoided death and thought about changing my name.

00:06:55.000 But that's separate.

00:06:56.000 But yeah, no, I went on an adventure, and it's been wild and crazy and unexpected.

00:07:02.000 And quite honestly, beyond my wildest imagination.

00:07:05.000 What started as just me with an idea and maybe a couple close friends has turned into the largest movement of its kind, the largest conservative student movement in the country on thousands of high school and college campuses.

00:07:18.000 Our social media footprint is beyond anything I could have ever imagined.

00:07:25.000 We have been blessed with incredible graduates.

00:07:28.000 Candace Owens started with us at Turning Point USA, Brandon Tatum, Ana Paulina, who's a member of Congress, started at Turning Point USA.

00:07:37.000 We have hundreds of thousands of students that are still part of Turning Point.

00:07:40.000 We have TPUSA Faith, which is trying to strengthen the American church and kick wokeism out of American Christianity. 0.86

00:07:46.000 So we have a lot going on.

00:07:48.000 And it's been an amazing 11 years.

00:07:51.000 And the Lord has had his blessing on us every step of the way.

00:07:53.000 It's definitely clear.

00:07:54.000 The Lord's blessing is on it.

00:07:57.000 I think about those early years.

00:07:59.000 There was probably a point where you felt like, okay, this is definitely God's calling for me, his purpose for me.

00:08:05.000 And there's probably a lot of guys in the room who are trying to figure out their purpose.

00:08:09.000 What was it like for you when it started to crystallize?

00:08:11.000 Like, God definitely made me for this and is calling me to this.

00:08:14.000 Yeah, the best answer I have is I first knew what wasn't my purpose.

00:08:18.000 And my purpose I knew was not to go get a meaningless piece of paper from some, you know, Midwest university.

00:08:26.000 And that's a controversial thing to believe.

00:08:28.000 11 years ago, even so to this day, it's kind of built into upper middle class suburban society that if you're a good student, Eagle Scout, you know, get A's, you play football, basketball, you're in honor society, you take AP classes like I did, it's not a matter of if you are going to college, it's where you're going to college.

00:08:44.000 And for I didn't get into West Point and I was on my own financially of what college I was going to go to.

00:08:50.000 So I had to borrow the money and it didn't feel right to go study, you know, go borrow $70,000, $80,000 to go study North African lesbian poetry or whatever they do now at these schools.

00:09:03.000 And so I knew what I didn't want to do.

00:09:06.000 And somebody gave me some great advice early on, which is, Charlie, you have a couple gifts.

00:09:12.000 If you enjoy those gifts, even better.

00:09:15.000 So follow the gifts that you enjoy and then see what God has in store for you.

00:09:20.000 And so I've always loved speaking.

00:09:22.000 I love making arguments.

00:09:23.000 I love learning.

00:09:25.000 And those are things that I'm better than average at.

00:09:28.000 And there's some things I'm not so good at.

00:09:30.000 And so I said, okay, I'll just start speaking and see what happens.

00:09:32.000 And I learned along the way that I also am kind of a natural entrepreneur.

00:09:37.000 I like building things.

00:09:38.000 I like taking risks.

00:09:39.000 And so, yeah, I just kind of did that along the way.

00:09:41.000 And it's just been this amazing journey.

00:09:43.000 But honestly, it's about trial and error and testing what you are doing to God's perfect and pleasing will, which it says very, you know, clearly in the scriptures.

00:09:52.000 I mean, Philippians 4:10, right?

00:09:54.000 Whatever is good, whatever is true, whatever is beautiful, think on those things, testing those to God's perfect and pleasing will.

00:09:59.000 And you just have to always do that.

00:10:01.000 Is what you're doing to the glory of God or to the rebellion of God's law, right?

00:10:05.000 Constantly comparing that.

00:10:07.000 And, you know, there's a great quote that Luther had, which is that, you know, someone who makes shoes, who's a Christian, doesn't glorify God by putting a cross in every single shoe, right? 0.89

00:10:17.000 He glorifies God by doing beautiful and excellent things and sharing the gospel where appropriate.

00:10:21.000 And I think we lose that sometimes.

00:10:22.000 We feel as if, you know, I'm not glorifying God if I'm a plumber or a welder because I'm not in the ministry.

00:10:27.000 No, everything is your ministry.

00:10:28.000 Your life is your ministry, right?

00:10:30.000 How you build your family, the value you create.

00:10:32.000 And so, you know, for me personally, I was a little uncomfortable at times because I was told by some Christians, you know, Charlie, you're not doing your highest calling because you're not being a pastor.

00:10:44.000 You're not running a church.

00:10:45.000 You know, my now pastor, Rob McCoy, is here in the front row, and he affirmed that actually what I was doing was fighting for God's natural law, fighting for the principles that are laid out in the eternal scriptures that built our civilization.

00:10:59.000 And, you know, even more importantly, that trying to rescue a generation that is lost in misery and despair and deception that is looking for the truth and only the truth of Jesus Christ can set them free.

00:11:10.000 And, you know, like all things, and those of you that have built businesses know this, once you get momentum, that's really the key, right?

00:11:16.000 So going from zero to one is the hardest thing.

00:11:18.000 Going from one to two is way easier than zero to one.

00:11:21.000 And going two to four is easier and four to eight.

00:11:23.000 And then before you know it, you know, what just started as yourself is, you know, we now have 450 employees, right?

00:11:28.000 And 300,000 donors across the country.

00:11:31.000 And it's all God that has done that, right?

00:11:32.000 I'm just saying that.

00:11:36.000 And then constantly comparing, am I doing, am what I doing is to the glory of God?

00:11:40.000 And that doesn't mean that you don't make mistakes, you're not sinful, and you don't, you know, are in error off the target.

00:11:45.000 That's what literally sin means in the scriptures.

00:11:48.000 But I found that along the way that God was, there were so many God moments, Ryan, so many blessings that would defy reason that I knew that I was on the correct path.

00:12:00.000 So good.

00:12:01.000 I have to point out, I too was a West Point reject.

00:12:06.000 Yeah.

00:12:06.000 We have that in common.

00:12:07.000 You still served your country.

00:12:08.000 And I did not.

00:12:10.000 You are also serving your country.

00:12:12.000 We have some West Point grads in the church, but us West Point rejects are just trying to make something of ourselves.

00:12:18.000 I want to just point out a couple of things that he said, though.

00:12:21.000 What he felt like his calling was, it aligned with God's word and his gifting.

00:12:26.000 And he had older, wiser, godly men who affirmed this calling.

00:12:31.000 And at that intersection, man, when you are at that point, you can have a lot of confidence that you're stepping in a good direction.

00:12:38.000 You're likely to step into God's will for your life.

00:12:41.000 Yeah.

00:12:42.000 And I mean, there's a couple stories that really pop open to me.

00:12:45.000 My second favorite character of the Bible, I got in so much trouble because I said it was my favorite and I had a revolt.

00:12:49.000 Jesus is my favorite character for the record.

00:12:52.000 Okay.

00:12:52.000 So my second favorite is Moses.

00:12:54.000 I think he's awesome in so many different ways, right?

00:12:57.000 And he was living a great life.

00:12:59.000 He actually got along with his father-in-law, Jethro, which is amazing.

00:13:02.000 And, you know, he's kind of just chilling out at Midian.

00:13:05.000 God's like, nope, I'm taking you and you're going to go, you know, lead the most, you know, the group of the least impressive people that I could possibly find, the Hebrews, that are going to complain the entire time and never give you any credit. 1.00

00:13:15.000 And you're going to want to quit and lead them to the promised land.

00:13:18.000 And this guy was faithful.

00:13:19.000 And by the way, one of my favorite, Numbers 12 is one of my favorite books, the whole Bible, because he, you know, God is writing through Moses, but I think Moses put this in himself.

00:13:28.000 And Moses was the meekest man.

00:13:29.000 Like, yeah, okay, God.

00:13:30.000 Thanks.

00:13:30.000 Thanks, Moses.

00:13:31.000 Right?

00:13:32.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:13:32.000 Okay.

00:13:33.000 So, okay, hold on a second.

00:13:34.000 You're so meek that you write that about yourself.

00:13:36.000 It was under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

00:13:38.000 No, I'm not saying it.

00:13:38.000 Of course it was.

00:13:40.000 I'm saying that's how you know everything else is true.

00:13:43.000 So true.

00:13:44.000 Because anyway, that's a separate issue.

00:13:46.000 But what I love about the story of Moses is one of obedience and duty and that it was God's call on his life to do something adventurous and something bold.

00:13:57.000 He was not just a philosopher, not just a leader, but he was an Eved. 0.86

00:14:02.000 And that's an interesting word as men.

00:14:04.000 So Eved in Hebrew means slave, but it also means servant.

00:14:07.000 It's interchangeable.

00:14:08.000 And you think about that, you're like, wow.

00:14:11.000 So here's a guy who is rescuing people who are slaves who is called a slave to God.

00:14:18.000 That's incredible, right?

00:14:19.000 So he's someone that is leading slaves out of slavery, but under, and you could go servant or slave.

00:14:25.000 It's interchangeable in the Hebrew, right?

00:14:27.000 But I think it's powerful because he's thought of as the greatest Jew ever to live in traditional Judaism.

00:14:33.000 It's hard to disagree.

00:14:35.000 And this is a guy who committed his whole life to God, submitted.

00:14:39.000 And what's even more amazing is that it did not end the way he thought it would, right?

00:14:44.000 He didn't get into the promised land, but he played his part.

00:14:48.000 Maybe for us, we're not, it's not going to end the way we always want it to, but you obediently play your part.

00:14:54.000 And it might take a Joshua generation to continue it forward. 0.99

00:14:58.000 But you play your role, you do your part, you listen to God, and you trust his plan.

00:15:03.000 Yeah, so good.

00:15:04.000 Isn't it ironic that like Paul said, I'm a slave to Christ.

00:15:06.000 And that's exactly.

00:15:07.000 The truest freedom comes from voluntarily submitting your life to Christ.

00:15:13.000 Now, as a dad, looking back on your childhood and all that you're carrying today, when you think, because we've been talking about marriage in our church recently and fatherhood and parenting, what are some of the things you think your parents did?

00:15:13.000 So good.

00:15:27.000 No parents are perfect, but what are some of the things that they did that you feel like best prepared you for what now God is using you to do?

00:15:34.000 Yeah, I mean, my parents were amazing and are amazing.

00:15:38.000 And they were the opposite of helicopter parents.

00:15:40.000 Now there's like snowplow parents where they want to remove all obstacles, right?

00:15:45.000 They were firm.

00:15:47.000 They were they instilled character, but they came from a very interesting background where they were very bohemian in some ways, if you know what I mean.

00:15:55.000 They were like, okay, be home at nine.

00:15:58.000 And that was amazing.

00:16:00.000 And I think kids are totally missing that.

00:16:03.000 There was, for those of you that were raised that way, you know exactly what I mean.

00:16:07.000 There was no cell phones.

00:16:08.000 It was be home by when it's a little bit after dark.

00:16:11.000 And there was almost a spirit of self-governance that had to set in where my parents literally sometimes had no idea where I was and I had no idea where I was.

00:16:20.000 And you had to kind of figure out your way home.

00:16:23.000 And I talked to some of these parents.

00:16:24.000 It's deeply unhealthy sometimes.

00:16:27.000 And honestly, I see where it comes from.

00:16:29.000 Like, you know, you constantly check in.

00:16:30.000 I have a daughter now.

00:16:31.000 You're constantly worried about it.

00:16:32.000 And I'm not sure what's better, but I know what was good for me.

00:16:36.000 You know, and I'm not trying to tell you parenting advice.

00:16:38.000 I just know what worked for me is that my parents were kind of like, okay, if you don't want to go to college, then that's your, that's your choice.

00:16:44.000 And that's unusual, everybody, right?

00:16:46.000 Most parents would be like, no, you're going to college.

00:16:47.000 You're getting the piece of paper.

00:16:50.000 You're going to get the diploma.

00:16:51.000 My parents are like, okay, if you want to do that, that's perfectly fine.

00:16:54.000 But also very high standards.

00:16:56.000 And they refused to allow me to settle.

00:17:00.000 And at the same time, if I came home and I had a C, they'd be like, okay, you're going to have to live with that.

00:17:07.000 It wasn't shame culture.

00:17:09.000 And it was kind of like, you're going to have to take responsibility for your own actions and you're going to have to figure it out.

00:17:14.000 And for me, I mean, that really worked.

00:17:16.000 And so at the same time, they were incredibly present at sporting events, not overly so where it was obnoxious.

00:17:23.000 You guys know what I mean, but it was never a question of were they supporting me.

00:17:27.000 That's very, very important, right?

00:17:30.000 That they were there, that they were watching.

00:17:32.000 They never interfered, you know, with coaches or any of that stuff.

00:17:35.000 But it was if I wanted to practice, they were there to help me practice, right?

00:17:39.000 They were always over the top supportive with anything that I wanted to do to push myself to get better, trainers or pouring into.

00:17:46.000 I think they struck a pretty amazing balance.

00:17:49.000 And they're not nearly as political as I am, which is the hilarious part of all this, because it really was, you know, set your own course and do what you want to do.

00:17:57.000 But yeah, also, and the final thing I'll say is they made a point, and I'll be eternally, you know, in their debt for this.

00:18:04.000 At second grade, they said, I don't know why they said it, but they said, you need to go to Christian school, right?

00:18:10.000 And third, fourth, and fifth grade, three years of Christian school in third, fourth, and fifth grade, never went back, changed my entire life.

00:18:17.000 That's it.

00:18:18.000 And, you know, you think of we now reach millions of people for the gospel every week, right?

00:18:24.000 And third, fourth, and fifth grade changed my life and potentially, you know, now the impact of everything that we're doing, you know, through our outreach.

00:18:31.000 And so something to think about.

00:18:32.000 Maybe some of you that have young kids, you might say, ah, does it really matter to put them in Christian education?

00:18:37.000 Maybe, maybe not.

00:18:38.000 Not everyone that goes to Christian education doesn't stick, right? 0.99

00:18:40.000 But for me, it was what I needed to hear.

00:18:42.000 It was the most formative years.

00:18:44.000 And I went to government school after that, you know, sixth, seventh, eighth grade in high school.

00:18:48.000 And, you know, I didn't lose my faith.

00:18:50.000 It actually strengthened it.

00:18:52.000 I think a lot of parents are thinking about Christian school right now.

00:18:52.000 It's good.

00:18:55.000 And I just heard Fadi Bochum said, if you give your kids to Caesar, don't be surprised if they come back as Romans. 0.88

00:19:03.000 So I think parents really have to wrestle with that right now.

00:19:06.000 How are we going to protect our kids from the indoctrination that society wants to force upon them?

00:19:11.000 I want to ask you about this, Charlie.

00:19:14.000 So we encourage our church and the men in our church to be bold, to stand up for what's right, to represent the Lord in the world.

00:19:22.000 But then we know that that brings potential backlash.

00:19:25.000 Very few people understand that like you do.

00:19:28.000 As a leader, as a pastor, you know, we understand what it's like to get attacked, unfairly accused, criticized.

00:19:35.000 But you understand that on another level.

00:19:37.000 And I know you're not going to whine about it.

00:19:40.000 Sometimes I'm even concerned about you.

00:19:41.000 And I'm like, how are you doing?

00:19:42.000 You're like, I'm fine.

00:19:43.000 Yeah.

00:19:44.000 But I think there's a lot of people that are not used to being outspoken and bold in their faith.

00:19:50.000 And they're worried, like, well, what if I deal with backlash?

00:19:53.000 What if I deal with criticism?

00:19:54.000 What if I lose friends?

00:19:56.000 So, can you talk about all the backlash you face?

00:19:59.000 Literally, there are people who are constantly criticizing you.

00:20:04.000 How have you personally fortified?

00:20:06.000 I would settle for criticizing.

00:20:10.000 I mean, I'm probably one of the most hated people in the country.

00:20:13.000 It's not an exaggeration, right?

00:20:14.000 There's a whole cottage industry dedicated towards trying to put me in jail, hate me.

00:20:18.000 It's not a joke, right?

00:20:20.000 There's entire full-time people, both in our government, Washington Post, New York Times, that want to destroy my entire life.

00:20:25.000 And thank God we have a hedge protection around us, and we're not going to let them win, as long as that's God's will.

00:20:34.000 And I don't say it as whining.

00:20:35.000 And I will say, for those of you, here's what I will say with this.

00:20:38.000 Number one, it gets easier.

00:20:42.000 When I was first into this, the attacks really, really impacted me.

00:20:46.000 I wasn't necessarily born this way.

00:20:48.000 I had a predisposition not to care.

00:20:50.000 But yeah, when the New York Times used to run a front page story about me, it used to really hurt.

00:20:56.000 I used to really have normal stuff that most people deal with.

00:21:01.000 When you have four full-time reporters from the biggest news agencies internationally going to high school kids that you went to high school with, trying to get dirt on you like you're Brett Kavanaugh, right?

00:21:13.000 That used to really bother you.

00:21:14.000 Now it's called Tuesday, right?

00:21:18.000 And so you, like all things, for those of you that run businesses, you know this, the first time you had to fire somebody, it's really hard.

00:21:25.000 I'm not saying it gets easier, but you develop muscles, right?

00:21:29.000 And the same thing, by the way, for those of you that might be terrified of public speaking, you know this, right, Ryan?

00:21:37.000 It's not that it was ever easy.

00:21:38.000 We might have had a natural gift thing, but it gets easier, right?

00:21:42.000 And so for those of you that might say, I don't know if I can withstand the attacks, you have to, first of all, you have to understand that it does get easier.

00:21:50.000 You build up the muscle for it.

00:21:52.000 You recognize and realize who your true friends actually are.

00:21:55.000 You make new friends too.

00:21:57.000 And I mean, call me like an old-fashioned Christian.

00:22:01.000 I think that your success is actually measured by how much you are persecuted for telling the truth.

00:22:06.000 And the people that I respect the most in this country are the people that are constantly under barrage and constantly under attack, you know, for telling the truth.

00:22:16.000 So I'm not whining about it.

00:22:17.000 I think it's amazing and it's awesome because I think it's a validation of what I am doing is important.

00:22:24.000 And especially as men, we should not allow, you know, the false and nonsensical criticisms to destabilize us.

00:22:34.000 I think that when women make that excuse, I actually empathize with them a lot more.

00:22:39.000 They're far more emotionally driven.

00:22:41.000 They're far more agreeable.

00:22:43.000 They're built.

00:22:44.000 They're built for relationships.

00:22:45.000 They're built. 1.00

00:22:46.000 I mean, they can't go to the bathroom alone.

00:22:47.000 Their whole world is about social acceptance and being tied.

00:22:53.000 I mean, the whole thing is about, I want the people around me to like me.

00:22:53.000 It's right.

00:22:59.000 That's why a lot of them are culturally liberal and politically liberal is because they don't want to disagree with the rest of the mobs.

00:23:05.000 They just go along, right? 0.97

00:23:07.000 And that's why men must lead revolutions for truth because we're less agreeable to nonsense and crap. 0.95

00:23:12.000 It's not to say that women can't be, but it's the male role to lead forth against the lie. 0.97

00:23:17.000 Women are less likely to do that.

00:23:19.000 And so, but yeah, look, I guess your question was advice or for that.

00:23:24.000 I mean, at one point, it came out recently that you were one of the accounts that was blacklisted and suppressed on Twitter.

00:23:30.000 By name, yeah, you were one of the accounts.

00:23:33.000 First off, did you know that that was happening to you?

00:23:36.000 Well, I mean, yes, but I was called a conspiracy theory.

00:23:39.000 It's so funny.

00:23:39.000 I mean, these people are hilarious.

00:23:41.000 So I felt like a crazy person.

00:23:44.000 I was like, Twitter is blacklisting me.

00:23:46.000 Like, you're a conspiracy theorist.

00:23:47.000 You're QAnon.

00:23:48.000 I'm like, no, they are.

00:23:50.000 I can tell.

00:23:50.000 And, you know, no one listens.

00:23:51.000 And then Elon Musk, praise God, buys Twitter and releases.

00:23:54.000 Big daddy Elon.

00:23:55.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:23:56.000 He releases all these documents, and it turns out that there was like a special blacklist with two names on it, Dan Bongino and Charlie Kirk on it, right?

00:23:56.000 Save the day.

00:24:06.000 Great company, by the way.

00:24:07.000 I'll take it.

00:24:08.000 So I love Dan.

00:24:09.000 He's a man's man.

00:24:10.000 He's a great person.

00:24:11.000 Anyway, so yeah, look, I...

00:24:13.000 It says very in James 1, one of my favorite chapters of the word, first of all, it says, pray for wisdom and God will give it to you generously, but blessed are you who are persecuted.

00:24:22.000 Jesus specifically said that.

00:24:24.000 And if you guys want a little bit of a truth, you know, missile for you tonight, if you're not persecuted, you're probably not telling a lot of truth.

00:24:33.000 And that's good. 0.96

00:24:34.000 If you have an easy life, you're probably being a coward. 0.99

00:24:38.000 Amen. 0.97

00:24:39.000 I endorse that.

00:24:45.000 So do you feel like you have dealt with spiritual warfare in this world?

00:24:50.000 Oh, yeah, without a doubt.

00:24:51.000 And, you know, and especially the last couple of years, and this is something that we as men must realize, you know, the scriptures tell us that Satan or his platoon, because Satan is not ubiquitous, he's not omnipotent, he's not omnipresent, but he does have demons, which are fallen angels that are able to create chaos and discord, especially in the mind.

00:25:12.000 They have certain vectors that they're able to attach onto.

00:25:15.000 The first being the flesh.

00:25:16.000 This is one of the main reasons why the scriptures are so clear about guarding your flesh and guarding against your flesh.

00:25:22.000 That's why the spiritual discipline of fasting is a superpower against Satan and spiritual activity because it's you consciously saying, my flesh does not dominate me, right?

00:25:32.000 I'm going to say no to what I think I want.

00:25:35.000 I'm not going to starve to death.

00:25:37.000 So one thing for me is fasting at least once a week for 24 hours minimum has been a game changer for me.

00:25:43.000 But yes, I mean, so, and then also the consumption of pornography and or the wandering eye for a man is the most, is the easiest superhighway for Satan to get into a man to be able to throw them off their marriage, throw them off their job.

00:26:00.000 We as men must do a much better job of elevating and celebrating how awesome marriage and raising kids is.

00:26:06.000 And we must do a much better job.

00:26:10.000 And I loop myself into this.

00:26:12.000 I say us together.

00:26:14.000 We must do a much better job of also warning and protecting young men from pornography.

00:26:19.000 I struggled with pornography at a young age.

00:26:22.000 And there was not a single church ministry or person that understood that it is the modern day digital heroin.

00:26:30.000 It is more dangerous than I think anyone realizes.

00:26:33.000 There is a book by a now deceased secular neuroscientist.

00:26:37.000 His name is Gary Wilson, Your Brain on Porn.

00:26:40.000 If there was one book that you, as a father of a son or as a leader in a church, should read and internalize, it is that book.

00:26:47.000 It will blow your mind to the actual neural pathway changes, how it changes the plasticity nearly permanently of a young man of even 30 minutes of pornography consumption a week.

00:26:57.000 And if you have sons, they're probably watching a lot more pornography than that.

00:27:00.000 And it's not a joke, by the way.

00:27:01.000 I get emails from parents all the time. 0.63

00:27:03.000 Charlie, I know you say my son watched porn.

00:27:05.000 I thought you were joking, and then I realized they were.

00:27:08.000 How do I handle it?

00:27:09.000 And we can go into that if you want.

00:27:11.000 But if there's just one thing, please do your best to protect your sons or the men in your life from this satanic invasion of the next generation.

00:27:22.000 And we, and so moms and women are built to help sons and young men from certain attacks.

00:27:32.000 We as men are far more effective in telling young men to avoid sexual sin than moms or women. 0.99

00:27:40.000 A father figure is far more important and more effective.

00:27:45.000 And so think about that however you want.

00:27:48.000 And so anyway, and thankfully I've, you know, broke free of that and all those different things that young men struggle with.

00:27:56.000 Do we still have that link up on the app?

00:27:57.000 If you are struggling with pornography, if you open up our church app on the homepage, it just says struggling with porn.

00:28:04.000 You can join one of our conquer groups.

00:28:05.000 We'll help you overcome that and get freedom.

00:28:08.000 I think it's so important, something we've talked about recently.

00:28:11.000 You text me this article in the summer from The Hill, July 31st.

00:28:15.000 It said, high school boys are trending conservative.

00:28:20.000 And the narrative has been that all young people are constantly getting more liberal.

00:28:24.000 So what's causing this, you think, for high school boys?

00:28:27.000 Yeah, this is great news, everybody, by the way.

00:28:30.000 10 years ago, this was not the case.

00:28:33.000 A majority of high school boys 10 years ago were far, far to the left.

00:28:38.000 Look, the whole world is against men right now.

00:28:40.000 And we need to be honest. 1.00

00:28:41.000 This is not about being a victim or whining or complaining, but from the media that we consume to the one-liners that we say to if you think about just an average sitcom, a cartoon sitcom, the father figure is almost always overweight, bumbling, and a moron. 0.97

00:28:59.000 And the man is portrayed as, you know, kind of an afterthought. 0.89

00:29:04.000 And it's the mom or the female that is smart and is the problem solver.

00:29:10.000 That's just one example of hundreds that I could give. 1.00

00:29:13.000 Not to mention our entire education system is feminized. 0.98

00:29:17.000 We have sperm rates and testosterone rates down 80% over the last 20 years.

00:29:21.000 And not a single political leader in either party wants to ask the question why. 0.88

00:29:25.000 I mean, instead of a stupid hearing on UFOs, I would rather have a hearing on like, why are testosterone rates down 80%? 0.96

00:29:31.000 Like, that's pretty important, right? 0.98

00:29:34.000 And by the way, you can see it in just how so many, you know, supposed, and don't worry, Ryan, you're exempt from all this.

00:29:40.000 How many supposed Christian pastors, like they dress like metrosexual women and they talk like women? 1.00

00:29:45.000 And it like the feminization of Christian men is very disturbing to me.

00:29:52.000 And I won't say any names.

00:29:54.000 You know who I'm talking about.

00:29:55.000 We know.

00:29:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:29:57.000 I know.

00:29:58.000 But no, but it's a deeper point, though, is that young 14, 15, and 16-year-old men are, you know, lectured about toxic masculinity.

00:30:05.000 They're told that there's something inherently wrong about being a man and that they see this trans movement, which is from the pit of hell saying that you should change your gender, change your sex.

00:30:14.000 And they're looking for anything that affirms them as being a man.

00:30:18.000 And the only bad part about this poll, everybody, is they're actually not looking to the church because the church has been infected by the spirit of Jezebel.

00:30:25.000 The church has largely become a feminist institution of female pastors and all that stuff.

00:30:31.000 And I'm not saying I personally don't believe in female pastors, but I'm just saying that we've overplayed our, I don't know if that's the position of this church.

00:30:38.000 I don't mean to offend you.

00:30:39.000 I just don't.

00:30:40.000 I think that allowing the feminization of the American church has been a tragic mistake. 0.74

00:30:45.000 And so where do they go?

00:30:46.000 Well, they don't go to the church because everything's feminized. 0.99

00:30:48.000 They go to Andrew Tate.

00:30:50.000 And if you don't know who Andrew Tate is, how many of you guys know who Andrew Tate is, by the way?

00:30:54.000 Okay, that's actually more than I thought.

00:30:55.000 That's good.

00:30:56.000 You should know that Andrew Tate is more popular.

00:30:58.000 He's an outspoken Muslim online influencer with young men than any Christian.

00:31:03.000 Joe Rogan is more influential.

00:31:06.000 And we should ask ourselves the question, why is it that Andrew Tate, who's a kickboxing Muslim, is more popular than any outspoken Christian?

00:31:13.000 Why is it Joe Rogan, who is a like mushroom LSD taking, you know, jujitsu, UFC commentating, rather salty language communicator, more popular?

00:31:24.000 By the way, I like Joe Rogan a lot.

00:31:25.000 I, you know, I don't, I don't agree with him a lot, but I think he's very effective.

00:31:28.000 And the answer is honestly, they're embracing a, not just an aesthetic, but a line of thinking that empowers 15, 16, and 17, 18-year-old men.

00:31:38.000 What I'm going after, everybody, is there is a harvest opportunity for young men for the American church and for Christianity, unlike anything we have ever seen before.

00:31:47.000 And let's lean in.

00:31:49.000 Let's lean into that.

00:31:50.000 And that's one of the reasons why about two years ago, we started really emphasizing our men's ministry.

00:31:50.000 Yeah.

00:31:56.000 You know, at our church, we do believe that a husband is ahead of his wife, that churches should be primarily led by a man, that men should lead the way spiritually, and that when we follow God's pattern in that way, God blesses it.

00:32:08.000 But you're right.

00:32:09.000 Churches have been feminized in many places because men have failed to take the lead.

00:32:15.000 And so let's talk about this for a second.

00:32:15.000 Yeah.

00:32:17.000 Male-female differences fascinate me.

00:32:19.000 Okay.

00:32:19.000 And so part of the trans movement is trying to destroy the distinctions that God established in Genesis 1 through 11.

00:32:25.000 Okay.

00:32:26.000 So God created separation and order.

00:32:28.000 And God, in one of the days of creation, God literally organized things.

00:32:32.000 He didn't create anything new.

00:32:33.000 He created expanse, right?

00:32:34.000 He created differences, right?

00:32:36.000 Differences between night and day, good and evil, holy, profane, man and woman, man and nature, God and nature.

00:32:41.000 These distinctions keep us free.

00:32:43.000 But let's talk about the distinctions between male and female.

00:32:45.000 We're completely different, right? 1.00

00:32:47.000 Women use way too many words, in my opinion. 1.00

00:32:50.000 It takes two hours to say something, right? 1.00

00:32:53.000 You know, for men, it's like, yeah, got it.

00:32:55.000 You know, it's game over, right?

00:32:57.000 And it's like, we got it.

00:32:59.000 I'm actually talking about communication in marriage this Sunday.

00:33:02.000 So I'm going to help some of you guys with that problem, by the way.

00:33:05.000 And so this is one of the things.

00:33:07.000 It's a sidebar, but it's necessary.

00:33:08.000 This is why I'm so against homosexual marriage, not marriage. 1.00

00:33:11.000 It's glorified narcissism, right?

00:33:13.000 It's men who want more of themselves or women who want more of themselves. 0.76

00:33:13.000 It's more of the same. 0.76

00:33:17.000 If you're married, you don't get more of yourself.

00:33:18.000 You get something completely and totally different, and you spend the rest of your life realizing how different you are from women, right? 1.00

00:33:24.000 So homosexuality is nothing more than I am super important.

00:33:28.000 So I'm in love with myself. 0.81

00:33:29.000 I want to marry the mirror, right? 0.99

00:33:30.000 That's what homosexuality is. 1.00

00:33:31.000 And we need to be more clear in the church about that.

00:33:34.000 So the distinctions in Genesis 1 through 11 set up the difference between male and female.

00:33:39.000 And these differences are beautiful and important.

00:33:41.000 But as a society, we have overemphasized all of the feminine traits and we've de-emphasized all of the masculine traits.

00:33:48.000 And so feminine traits are obviously compassion and empathy and sympathy and listening.

00:33:53.000 And those are important. 0.69

00:33:55.000 But if you design a civilization only on the feminine and you have none of the masculine, which is about purpose, grittiness, discipline, self-control, dare I even say courage, you know, vision casting, more macro, well, then your society will collapse.

00:34:13.000 And so we only teach our young people what happens if a society gets too masculine, right?

00:34:18.000 You think of Hitler or Mussolini or Stalin.

00:34:20.000 What happens if a society gets too feminine? 0.96

00:34:22.000 We never even ask that question, right? 0.97

00:34:24.000 You get equally, if not worse, tyranny if a society gets too feminine. 1.00

00:34:28.000 And so here's the best way.

00:34:29.000 And here's the ultimate red pill for those of you guys that want to try to blow the brain, you know, like if there's a relative on Thanksgiving that says men and women are basically the same or, you know, a man can become a woman, right?

00:34:39.000 So the easy argument is that men shouldn't compete in female sports.

00:34:41.000 Like that's the easy one, right? 1.00

00:34:43.000 We all agree it's stupid, it's dumb. 1.00

00:34:44.000 But let me ask you a question. 1.00

00:34:46.000 Why is it that the International Chess Federation made a massive new declaration saying that men, biological men, under no circumstances are allowed to compete in the female division in chess?

00:35:01.000 They said it's not fair. 0.71

00:35:03.000 Women can't compete. 1.00

00:35:05.000 It's not a muscle mass thing. 1.00

00:35:06.000 It's not a testosterone thing.

00:35:07.000 It's not a bone density thing.

00:35:09.000 Now, I'm not saying it's smarter.

00:35:11.000 It's something so much more simple than that, is that men are better macro thinkers than women, and women are better micro thinkers.

00:35:18.000 And I'll prove it to you.

00:35:19.000 I go to any one of you and we sit at a dinner party.

00:35:22.000 You'll talk about politics or sports or the stock market or the economy.

00:35:26.000 I sit next to a woman.

00:35:28.000 She'll be telling me about a conversation she had with somebody at lunch.

00:35:38.000 Harvard study reinforced this.

00:35:40.000 They lock a man in the room for 30 minutes, stare at the wall.

00:35:42.000 What do you think about sports and sex?

00:35:43.000 Yeah, it's really deep.

00:35:44.000 Great.

00:35:50.000 They locked a woman in the...

00:35:51.000 This is what's fascinating.

00:35:52.000 What did you think about?

00:35:53.000 They said, we were replaying conversations we had the last couple days.

00:35:57.000 To be clear, no man in the history of the species has ever replayed conversations that we've had.

00:36:03.000 Now, what am I getting at here?

00:36:05.000 The trans movement blurs those distinctions.

00:36:07.000 They act like they don't matter.

00:36:09.000 God made us different and intentionally and unique.

00:36:11.000 And we platform our whole society as if proud, boss babe, proud to be a woman.

00:36:16.000 And what if we say, not only is it, you know, good to be a man, what does it mean to be a man?

00:36:22.000 And it's not sexist, it's not misogynistic.

00:36:25.000 It's biblical.

00:36:26.000 And you have a whole generation of young men that are starving for that validation and for that explanation.

00:36:32.000 And that explains that.

00:36:34.000 That's good.

00:36:35.000 Okay.

00:36:37.000 It's good to be a man.

00:36:40.000 And thank God for women. 0.82

00:36:43.000 I want to, this is a cultural question that starts out by, I want to just thinking about what happened on October 7th with the attack in Israel, which was done by evil demonic terrorists.

00:36:56.000 Many Americans have been shocked to see so much support for Hamas coming from organizations that are these progressive organizations like BLM.

00:37:06.000 And I've been seeing all this rift amongst left-leaning social progressives where half of them are going, how are you guys supporting Hamas, these evil terrorists?

00:37:18.000 And it seems like it's causing this rift within progressive culture.

00:37:22.000 Like, what do you think that's going to do to progressives in the years to come here?

00:37:27.000 It's an important question.

00:37:28.000 So there's something called intersectionality.

00:37:30.000 We'll talk about that in just a second.

00:37:33.000 It's fun to point this out, especially when, you know, I visit college campuses, so you guys don't have to, right?

00:37:39.000 So I visited over 150.

00:37:41.000 You're welcome, by the way.

00:37:42.000 I was just at U of A.

00:37:43.000 That was interesting.

00:37:44.000 And ASU, NAU, and I'm going to UCLA next week.

00:37:47.000 And we do a lot of work there.

00:37:49.000 So it's always fun. 0.77

00:37:51.000 I get a chuckle when someone is wearing the free Palestine shirt and the gay flag. 1.00

00:37:59.000 It's like, you know, they would literally murder you, right? 0.89

00:38:02.000 So, you know, it's funny. 0.95

00:38:03.000 I used to say that, hey, if you as a gay person would go to Gaza, they'd throw you off of tall buildings, right? 0.98

00:38:10.000 Now they don't have any tall buildings left.

00:38:12.000 So I don't.

00:38:19.000 When you mess with the bull, you get the horns.

00:38:21.000 Is that too soon?

00:38:22.000 I'm sorry. 1.00

00:38:22.000 Maybe you shouldn't kill Jews, stupid Muslims. 1.00

00:38:35.000 I like that. 1.00

00:38:37.000 Where was I?

00:38:37.000 I like that.

00:38:39.000 So, yeah, intersectionality.

00:38:42.000 So that's fun to point out and it's necessary to point out, right?

00:38:47.000 But it's a lot deeper than that.

00:38:49.000 It's about a common enemy, right?

00:38:51.000 So Islam is a political ideology masquerading as a religion. 0.90

00:38:56.000 I'll be very honest.

00:38:57.000 I think we as Christians have not done a good enough job educating our flock on what Islam is.

00:39:01.000 What does the Bible say about Islam?

00:39:02.000 Where does it come from?

00:39:04.000 How is it at odds with the promised Christianity? 0.92

00:39:06.000 How is Allah different than Jesus? 0.95

00:39:08.000 Who is Muhammad?

00:39:09.000 What did he do?

00:39:10.000 And, you know, people say I'm Islamophobic or I'm pro-Christian, which by definition means I don't believe in fake religions.

00:39:15.000 So I just think we have to do a better job, especially now this is kind of center point.

00:39:19.000 Just what does the Bible say?

00:39:20.000 What do we believe?

00:39:21.000 What do they believe?

00:39:22.000 Right.

00:39:22.000 What do we believe?

00:39:22.000 I think that's really important.

00:39:24.000 Comparing and contrasting the life of Muhammad, you know, who married a nine-year-old, was a genocidal maniac, and was, you know, sold people into sex slavery with the ministry of Jesus Christ. 0.90

00:39:32.000 I think that's important, but I'm not.

00:39:34.000 That was one of the hardest things for me as a young pastor.

00:39:36.000 Anytime I talked about a false religion, I would get Christians in the church who would get upset with me. 0.99

00:39:42.000 And I'm like, you realize that if Jesus is the only way to heaven, then by default, every other religion not only comes from hell, but leads back to hell. 0.92

00:39:51.000 So you have to acknowledge that.

00:39:52.000 Well, and I don't want to belabor this, but there's so many just simple moral differences between Islam and Christianity.

00:39:58.000 The theological ones are even easier, but the moral ones are, I mean, just who is Jesus Christ is the most simple one, right?

00:40:06.000 We believe Jesus Christ is Lord.

00:40:07.000 At best, they'll think he's a prophet.

00:40:08.000 But anyway, let's table that.

00:40:10.000 So Islam is a political ideology masquerading as a religion. 0.90

00:40:14.000 Progressivism is a religion masquerading as a political ideology.

00:40:18.000 That's good.

00:40:20.000 That's good.

00:40:21.000 And they have in common an ethos of hatred of the great Satan, which is the West.

00:40:30.000 And you live in what they call the great Satan, which is America.

00:40:33.000 And they hate America because we were founded on the inerrant word of God and the promises articulated in the word of God.

00:40:39.000 The book of Deuteronomy was by far the most quoted book in the founding of America by America's founding fathers, by far secular or religious book, by the way.

00:40:48.000 This idea of charity, defense of the innocent, separation of powers, independent judiciary.

00:40:54.000 They don't just come ex nihilo out of nothing.

00:40:56.000 They were an outgrowth of the word of God.

00:40:59.000 And so what the people of the Palestinian authority and what the leftists have in common is not, you know, the homosexual thing or whatever.

00:41:10.000 They hate us so much that they're willing to create what they call an intersectional coalition to link arms together to destroy the great Satan.

00:41:19.000 And it really is a war for the West, is what it is.

00:41:22.000 And I see it happening on college campuses every single day.

00:41:26.000 And it's very serious.

00:41:28.000 I can go as deep as you'd like to go, Ryan, but you know, we as the church built the West, right?

00:41:34.000 55 out of 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were Bible-believing church attending Christians.

00:41:39.000 We have a Christian inheritance here in the West that we must realize is easily, it's easily taken away if the church does not take its rightful role.

00:41:49.000 So some people criticize me.

00:41:51.000 They say, Charlie, you're too political to be speaking in a church.

00:41:54.000 And I say, well, okay, well, then what do you make of Esther, Mordecai, Daniel, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, and Joseph, who were obviously political figures who are counselors to the king.

00:42:03.000 And they say, well, we only want to preach the gospel.

00:42:05.000 And I say, well, is the gospel the red-letter Bible of only things that Jesus said, or is the gospel the entirety of the word of God and the promises of God's story from creation to fall to redemption to salvation to reclamation of everything that God created?

00:42:20.000 And I don't think we should have a myopic view of the scriptures.

00:42:23.000 You must have a comprehensive view of the scriptures.

00:42:25.000 It's either Jesus is the king of your entire life or he's only the king in charge of things that you decide for him for your life.

00:42:31.000 So Jesus should be in charge of your marriage, entirely your church, in charge of your political decisions, right? 0.72

00:42:35.000 In charge of how you act in every single regard possible, in charge of how you educate your kids.

00:42:41.000 All these things are super important.

00:42:42.000 So anyway, the West is under attack from multiple forces. 0.95

00:42:45.000 It's attacked from the Chinese Communist Party, under attack by radical Islamic theocratic fascists. 0.56

00:42:51.000 But let's be honest, the greatest attack is from within. 0.90

00:42:53.000 The greatest attack is a mind virus that we are subsidizing on our university campuses.

00:42:58.000 We're pumping into our high schools, which I believe is from the pit of hell.

00:43:02.000 It's where you get ideas that men can give birth, of deconstructionist post-modernist ideology of racial disharmony, of anti-Americanism.

00:43:10.000 This anti-man is an outgrowth of there.

00:43:12.000 It's viewing the world through oppressor and oppressed.

00:43:15.000 And the church is the last line of defense of civilization. 0.78

00:43:18.000 If the church surrenders and does not fight, the civilization that your grandparents fought to preserve and protect will collapse.

00:43:25.000 And that is not an exaggeration.

00:43:27.000 That's good.

00:43:33.000 People will criticize pastors for getting political.

00:43:35.000 And I'm like, you should have told John the Baptist not to call out King Herod. 0.60

00:43:39.000 We need to speak to all Elijah, right?

00:43:42.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:43:43.000 It's interesting.

00:43:44.000 Once in a while, I feel like the devil outkicks his coverage.

00:43:47.000 and overplays his hand.

00:43:49.000 And he kind of did that with the Hamas attack.

00:43:52.000 And then you see BLM supporting it.

00:43:54.000 And other progressives are going, wait a second.

00:43:57.000 I don't know if I want to be on this team.

00:43:59.000 It happened with transing kids. 1.00

00:44:01.000 You know, people in society who weren't even Christians go, that doesn't seem right. 0.92

00:44:06.000 You know, so I think those are opportunities for the church to offer truth and hope and life and the authority of God's word to a world that's saying, this is crazy.

00:44:17.000 This can't be the way it's supposed to be.

00:44:18.000 And you just mentioned college.

00:44:19.000 And I did want to ask you about this.

00:44:21.000 You wrote a book called The College Scam.

00:44:23.000 And I know there are some jobs where you have to go to college to be a doctor, to become a lawyer, to become an engineer.

00:44:31.000 But what, with your experience and all your time on college campuses, what do you think young adults, teens, and parents of kids preparing for the next level of education, what should they know about college today that they might not know?

00:44:46.000 Yeah, I mean, I will say, I wrote this book and I got in some very spirited debates with secular Jews about a year and a half ago because they, especially very wealthy secular Jews, love them to death. 0.88

00:44:58.000 We agree on a lot of stuff politically, but this was an issue that bothered them.

00:45:01.000 In secular Jewish society, education is a big deal.

00:45:04.000 And honestly, God bless them for making a big deal, largely one of the reasons why secular Jewish society is so successful.

00:45:11.000 But there was a real big debate, right?

00:45:13.000 Of I was indicting the character and honestly saying bluntly that Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Penn, Cornell, and Columbia are at odds with American values and subsidizing Jew hatred. 0.90

00:45:27.000 And I received a lot of disagreement from secular Jews on that.

00:45:32.000 In the last week, I've received a fair amount of phone calls of, and I don't even delight or rejoice in it.

00:45:39.000 I mean, they've been very heavy phone calls.

00:45:42.000 And I mean that.

00:45:43.000 And my heart goes out to them because I only administered a warning a year and a half.

00:45:47.000 One family said, Charlie, our family has given $100 million to this Ivy League institution.

00:45:53.000 And now they are out.

00:45:55.000 I mean, the Jew hatred is so beyond the pale.

00:45:58.000 You guys have seen it in the last, I mean, I don't have to read, you know, it has no place in Western or decent society.

00:46:04.000 And here's what I will say.

00:46:06.000 That is all but a picture, a taste of how toxic these institutions are.

00:46:13.000 I do not exaggerate.

00:46:15.000 I have been accused of exaggeration.

00:46:17.000 I have been accused of hyperbole.

00:46:19.000 These institutions hate you.

00:46:20.000 They hate your values.

00:46:22.000 They want to take your kids and turn them against you and turn them against the country.

00:46:27.000 They do not want them to believe in God.

00:46:29.000 They do not want them to be filled with gratitude or joy or happiness or purpose.

00:46:33.000 They want them to be bitter and vengeful and then deployed on the rest of us to be weaponized complainers, aka Democrats, until we give them something.

00:46:53.000 So look, if you send a kid to college, you are playing Russian roulette with their values.

00:46:58.000 You may never see them again.

00:47:00.000 Even when I was going to ASU almost 20 years ago, DEI was beginning to be introduced.

00:47:06.000 I was a dorm leader my senior year.

00:47:08.000 I got put on probation for speaking out against dorm leader training that portrayed all Christians as bigots, as racist bigots.

00:47:16.000 I was like, hold up, time out.

00:47:18.000 And if the ROTC leadership hadn't gone to bathroom me, I might not have graduated.

00:47:23.000 But that was what, 10 years ago?

00:47:23.000 Wow.

00:47:25.000 This was 20 years ago.

00:47:26.000 And it's only gotten a thousand times worse.

00:47:30.000 Yeah, it's unbelievable.

00:47:35.000 And James Lindsey talks about that too in his book on Marxism about how that's part of their playbook to infiltrate the universities and then not like just get it into these kids so that they go out into all the, and it's happening even in Christian universities.

00:47:47.000 Oh, yeah.

00:47:47.000 I mean, there are a fair amount of captured Christian schools too.

00:47:50.000 And so the next question is, Charlie, but then where do I send my kid, right?

00:47:54.000 I challenge the premise, maybe your kid does not need to go to college at all.

00:47:57.000 We do need more entrepreneurs and plumbers, electricians and welders.

00:48:02.000 And I will lovingly challenge some of you.

00:48:04.000 If some of you are in what would be considered upper middle class society, there is a sense of shame that some parents feel that if your kid becomes a plumber, that you are a failure as a parent.

00:48:17.000 And you might say, oh, that's not me.

00:48:20.000 Think about it.

00:48:21.000 I want you to pray about that.

00:48:23.000 That's good.

00:48:24.000 If your kid ends up working with their hands and having to shower before work and after work, would you be proud of that child?

00:48:32.000 And if you say yes, then you're in the right case.

00:48:33.000 I could tell you right now that when I go and I give this speech at a church in Scottsdale.

00:48:41.000 Nope.

00:48:44.000 We ain't like that in East Mesa. 1.00

00:48:47.000 We got some bubbas out here. 1.00

00:48:51.000 They would rather have the risk of their son becoming a girl than their son having to work construction. 0.91

00:49:00.000 And what's scary is some of these guys who have upper middle class jobs could have their jobs replaced by AI at some point in the next 10 years.

00:49:09.000 And then they might be thinking, I wish I had learned a trade that I, where it requires working with your hands.

00:49:14.000 Yeah, the most, the most important, we have education largely wrong in this country.

00:49:17.000 I think we way overemphasize job preparation.

00:49:20.000 That's important, but actually still plays into the left's game.

00:49:23.000 The true spirit of education, which has just vanished and it is so hard to find, Hillsdale College is like the only place that does it, is that you should try to create good people.

00:49:32.000 You should try to pursue truth.

00:49:34.000 And that's what liberal arts used to be.

00:49:36.000 And that's not anymore, which is we're going to study really beautiful things and we're going to ask the most profound questions.

00:49:43.000 You know, when I was at the University of Arizona talking the other day and we were having dialogue with the students, the amount of very basic questions that used to be widespread at the university, they've never heard.

00:49:54.000 And I just asked very, are human beings naturally good or naturally not so good?

00:49:58.000 What is mercy?

00:49:59.000 What is justice?

00:50:00.000 What is prudence?

00:50:01.000 What is courage?

00:50:02.000 Is there a hierarchy to virtues?

00:50:03.000 Is there a way that one ought to live?

00:50:05.000 What does it mean to live the good life?

00:50:06.000 When should you forgive?

00:50:07.000 Should we punish the same for stealing a Snicker bar or murdering somebody?

00:50:11.000 Like you would, their minds were blown and they were captivated.

00:50:15.000 Because you notice what I was asking is things that studies can't prove those things.

00:50:20.000 Hear me for a second.

00:50:22.000 I cringe when sometimes people say, well, studies say.

00:50:26.000 My rule on studies is very simple.

00:50:28.000 If it confirms common sense, I believe the study.

00:50:31.000 If it doesn't confirm common sense, I think the study's wrong.

00:50:36.000 And I know that, I know you might, but think about it.

00:50:40.000 I sometimes talk to these kids and they short circuit if they can't have an argument that isn't supported by some sort of scientific consensus.

00:50:49.000 What if I told you the most important things in the world are things that you must nurture and pursue and think deeply about?

00:50:57.000 That's what education should be.

00:50:59.000 That is what classical education is.

00:51:01.000 I know some of you probably have kids in a classical school where you study Aristotle, Socrates, and Plato and Aquinas and Augustine and the early church fathers.

00:51:08.000 And you ask the deep questions that quite honestly built our civilization.

00:51:12.000 And the final point I'll make is this, is that every founding father was educated like this.

00:51:16.000 Why don't we still educate our kids now?

00:51:18.000 So good.

00:51:19.000 Okay, so I want to give you guys a heads up.

00:51:21.000 In just a minute, we're going to go to a live Q ⁇ A time.

00:51:24.000 On the back of your seats, there's a QR code.

00:51:26.000 If you want to send in a question that way, you can.

00:51:29.000 But then in order to ask a question live on the mic, right over here to the side, you can line up and ask your question to Charlie.

00:51:36.000 I'll give you a little heads up.

00:51:38.000 I told Charlie backstage, I was like, hey, I'm these guys' pastors.

00:51:42.000 I have to love them and be kind to them, but you're not.

00:51:44.000 So you can give it to them just both barrels.

00:51:48.000 And we both know that's where you're at your best.

00:51:52.000 Yeah, happy to answer any questions.

00:51:54.000 I prefer not to answer the political stuff.

00:51:55.000 I do that for three hours a day, literally.

00:51:58.000 If it's that pressing and you need to ask it, sure.

00:52:00.000 But I prefer the cultural or religious or church-related stuff.

00:52:02.000 Whatever you guys want to ask that.

00:52:03.000 So, and as you guys are getting ready to come and ask questions, I know someone's going to be nervous to be the first one.

00:52:08.000 So I know in a room full of men, somebody will have the fortitude to go ask the first question.

00:52:13.000 All right.

00:52:15.000 Okay, we got a guy.

00:52:16.000 Let's cheer him on.

00:52:18.000 While he's getting set, let me ask you one more question while they're getting set.

00:52:22.000 As you look across the culture and stuff right now, what are you excited about?

00:52:27.000 Even maybe, I know you don't want to talk too much political stuff, but is there anything even politically that you're like excited about right now?

00:52:33.000 Yeah, I am excited about the deepening and the strengthening of the remnant.

00:52:40.000 It is a remnant.

00:52:41.000 It is a minority.

00:52:42.000 But the resolve in rooms like this is very promising.

00:52:47.000 It's good.

00:52:47.000 Is that it will not break.

00:52:50.000 And that's what gives me hope.

00:52:52.000 I have no idea if we're going to win anytime, but regardless of how hard they go after our value system, I know for a fact that there will be a core remnant of believers and patriots that will keep the faith and do the good and beautiful things so that tomorrow can be better.

00:53:08.000 That's what the fighting spirit in the remnant is greater than I've ever seen.

00:53:15.000 And let's go.

00:53:19.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:53:21.000 I love everything that you do for the country and for us men and actually showing the difference between men and women.

00:53:29.000 My question is, though, I'm a vet and I'm a disabled vet and I just lost my job.

00:53:36.000 And my wife is the money earner in the family.

00:53:40.000 We are, and I know you didn't want to get into the politics of this, but me and my wife are on opposite ends.

00:53:46.000 She's on the left and I'm on the right.

00:53:49.000 I do a lot of praying and I do a lot of reading on my Bible app and out of my Bible.

00:53:56.000 My question to you is: what can I do?

00:53:59.000 And I just feel like I'm less than a man because I feel so much pressure from my wife to get a part-time job to do other things that I can do to provide for the family.

00:54:15.000 And I try to do as much as I can around the house.

00:54:17.000 But as you can see, I'm limited to what I can do.

00:54:21.000 What can I do?

00:54:22.000 Do you want to answer that, Ryan?

00:54:23.000 That's more of a pastor question.

00:54:25.000 Yeah.

00:54:27.000 I would just say to you, sir, that God calls husbands to be responsible to provide for their families.

00:54:36.000 And that does not mean that a man has to earn more money than his wife.

00:54:40.000 It means having the heart of a provider.

00:54:43.000 And being a disabled vet, you have nothing to be ashamed of.

00:54:47.000 You have sacrificed for your country, which is an act of courage.

00:54:59.000 And it's an honorable thing.

00:55:01.000 And it's something for you to be proud of.

00:55:02.000 And it is no way tied to the amount of money that you make on a regular basis.

00:55:07.000 Although you might not be able to earn more money than her, I would say to you, you can still be the leader of your family in every other area, which is just as important.

00:55:16.000 You can be the spiritual head of your household and lead your family in the ways of the Lord.

00:55:20.000 You can be the emotional leader of your household, providing peace and strength and stability to your family.

00:55:26.000 So do not let your self-worth be tied to a paycheck.

00:55:30.000 Take great honor.

00:55:32.000 You should feel joy knowing that you have lived up to what God has called you to do and you've lived in an honorable way.

00:55:38.000 And so we all commend you for that.

00:55:40.000 Thank you.

00:55:41.000 God bless you.

00:55:48.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:55:48.000 Hi.

00:55:49.000 I'm Isaac.

00:55:51.000 So I was down in Tucson about two weeks ago at the Federated Republican Women's Biennial Meeting.

00:55:58.000 And I was talking to one of the state senators from there, Justine Watsack, about ASU, specifically you talking about ASU.

00:56:08.000 They have insane liberal teachings, of course.

00:56:13.000 And I saw the pro-Palestine protest back there a few weeks ago after Hamas came in and attacked people.

00:56:23.000 So my question, I guess, is: if we're not able to regain control of these once great American institutions, would you find it acceptable?

00:56:36.000 And I guess I asked her the same thing, would you find it acceptable to write them out of the state budget, ASU specifically, write them out of the state budget or I guess somehow kind of shut them down in a way so that they are not able to corrupt young minds?

00:56:57.000 Yeah, great question.

00:56:59.000 Yes.

00:57:00.000 So they should be, it won't happen, but ASU, U of A, NAU, they should be completely defunded by the taxpayers of Arizona.

00:57:08.000 They should have to support themselves and they should have to raise their own money, figure it out, charge tuition, support themselves no different than Grand Canyon has to support themselves.

00:57:17.000 So if they're so great, then figure it out.

00:57:20.000 Now, you might say, but you know, Charlie, where are we supposed to, you know, send our kids?

00:57:25.000 Imagine what you could do with the money that we're spending at ASU and U of A and N AU in not just tax rebates, you can get rid of the income tax here in Arizona.

00:57:34.000 You want to talk about a job boom?

00:57:35.000 Get rid of the income tax.

00:57:36.000 Okay, you defund the universities here.

00:57:39.000 You literally are, not only are you able to get rid of the income tax, you get rid of the business income tax and the personal income tax.

00:57:45.000 It's that simple.

00:57:47.000 Like you will have, you could phase out the income tax in the state if you did that.

00:57:50.000 But yeah, Michael Crowe, I think I'm his most hated person right now because I'm leading a charge to defund ASU.

00:57:58.000 And we are definitely at odds with him.

00:58:02.000 Thank you.

00:58:07.000 Mr. Kirk, my name is Pateo de Antonio.

00:58:10.000 I'm a future journalist.

00:58:11.000 I'm a student at GCU, and I'm just a kid who wants that paper from college.

00:58:17.000 So, what's your advice to someone who's your age, whenever you start a turning point to give my fellow college students the gift of truth, both in Jesus and politically?

00:58:28.000 Yeah, it's a great question.

00:58:30.000 GCU is under attack right now by the federal government.

00:58:32.000 It's a real sick thing.

00:58:34.000 So we have to rally to support them.

00:58:37.000 My advice: look, love how Christ loved, which is both in truth and grace, and ask questions.

00:58:42.000 It's the best way to get to the truth.

00:58:44.000 Do more listening than talking and ask the most important thing.

00:58:47.000 Why do you believe that?

00:58:48.000 Where do you get that from?

00:58:49.000 And then also, there's a great it's so simple, yet it's so deep.

00:58:54.000 If you want to win people for Christ, if you are an unhappy person, you're probably not a good advertisement for the gospel.

00:59:03.000 Absolutely right.

00:59:05.000 Unhappy religious people have done more harm.

00:59:08.000 And I think it's about 50-50.

00:59:11.000 I meet a lot of people in church, and I'd say it's about 50-50.

00:59:14.000 We have a moral obligation to live out the joy of Christ every single day.

00:59:19.000 That is our great, the greatest act of evangelism is being happy and joyful in a broken world and being unafraid to speak the truth, especially when it comes to political matters.

00:59:32.000 Because at GCU, it's a predominantly Christian school, and people will be more Christian than not, but they might want to stay around from the political stuff.

00:59:39.000 And that's where you should ask the questions and try to get them to believe what the Bible says about these things.

00:59:46.000 Thank you.

00:59:46.000 Appreciate it.

00:59:53.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:59:53.000 I'm a big fan of your work.

00:59:55.000 My wife would get everything to be here right now.

00:59:58.000 But I did want to ask: I grew up in a family that showed no sense of discipline or sacrifice or they say Christian values, but there's no fruit of that.

01:00:11.000 And unfortunately, at times I find myself falling into that same boat trying to start my family.

01:00:16.000 My wife and I have been married for three years, going on four now.

01:00:20.000 But how do I nurture and develop a Christian discipline and a sense of boldness in my family when I've never really had that example?

01:00:32.000 That's an awesome question, honestly.

01:00:35.000 So, first and foremost, you need to find two or if you're a member of this church, you're actively involved, find two or three men here that are at least 20 years your senior that you think have their act together and have them constantly be giving you mentorship.

01:00:50.000 Male mentors changed my life, some that are still living and some that have passed away, where I saw how they acted, I saw how they had their life together, and it totally changed my life to this day.

01:01:01.000 So, you have to have, you are the moving average of the five people you spend the most time with, right?

01:01:06.000 So, one of those is your wife.

01:01:07.000 So, you better find four good guys around you, right?

01:01:09.000 So, that's great.

01:01:11.000 So, you got to find those four people and be those people.

01:01:14.000 And then you have to trim the bad influences.

01:01:16.000 Now, honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land of which you are in.

01:01:20.000 So, you are biblically commanded to honor your parents, even though the fruit wasn't there, right?

01:01:24.000 Honor comes from a Hebrew word to treat heavily, to curse, to treat lightly.

01:01:28.000 So, you must treat your parents heavily.

01:01:31.000 Take that seriously.

01:01:32.000 However, you don't have to spend every day with them, right?

01:01:35.000 So, you must be very careful of the influences and the things you bring into your life.

01:01:40.000 And then, the thing they'll say for you is, and this works a lot better with men than women, is you need to challenge yourself.

01:01:46.000 And this is where there's there will be a podcaster and maybe a series of books that really push you, but you're not the best version of yourself that you could be.

01:01:57.000 None of us as men are.

01:01:58.000 And that is a that is a language pattern that resonates with us even better than women.

01:02:03.000 And so, you need to kind of go on that Genesis 12 journey, whatever that might be.

01:02:06.000 It might be physical fitness, it might be, you know, doing waking up at 4 a.m., you know, that crazy Jocko Woolnick thing.

01:02:13.000 That stuff is awesome for men and it works.

01:02:17.000 Setting otherwise like outsider arbitrary limits for yourself as men is unbelievably effective for us because you as men need a destination.

01:02:28.000 There's a reason why in Peter Pan, they're called the lost boys.

01:02:33.000 They are without a North Star.

01:02:35.000 The Greeks had a word for this called telos.

01:02:37.000 So, when the greatest warrior culture ever created outside of the samurai was the Spartans by far.

01:02:44.000 And one of the things, the word that was instilled in every Spartan warrior was telos.

01:02:51.000 We get the word telescope from that in English, which means far out in the distance, that which you are aiming for.

01:02:59.000 We as men are far more in need of a telos than women are.

01:03:04.000 Women are in more need of a pathos, which was we get the word pathological from, but more of like emotional connection. 0.55

01:03:12.000 Totally, it's fine. 0.96

01:03:13.000 So, but it's just a coincidence, just silly Greek stuff, right? 0.88

01:03:23.000 What is your telos, right?

01:03:25.000 And so, that's above the horizon.

01:03:27.000 And don't set unrealistic goals for yourself.

01:03:31.000 But then, at times, you need to look at your how am I challenged myself physically, mentally, spiritually, and then even emotionally.

01:03:38.000 And so, it can be doing something as goofy as I'm not going to eat for three days, I'm going to do cold showers, I'm going to, you know, do what they call a hard 45, whatever that thing is, right?

01:03:48.000 Work out inside, outside, read for at least 20 minutes a day.

01:03:51.000 We, as men, thrive on this sort of stuff, and it's lacking, right?

01:03:56.000 So, that's where you can literally rewire yourself.

01:03:58.000 And I'll give you some hope too.

01:04:00.000 You want some hope?

01:04:01.000 Romans 12:2, one of the great, my one of my favorite verses, it's one of my top 20.

01:04:07.000 Do not conform to the ways of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

01:04:13.000 So, the Bible is always true.

01:04:14.000 Amen.

01:04:15.000 Guess what?

01:04:16.000 Neuroscience for the last 100 years used to say that verse is wrong.

01:04:21.000 They used to say your brain can't change once you're over the age of 15.

01:04:26.000 Now, neuroscience says, Oh, just kidding, your brain is always changing, and you can teach an old dog new tricks.

01:04:32.000 In fact, it's changing so much that it actually changes more over the age of 30 than under the age of 30.

01:04:38.000 Do not conform to the ways of this world, be transformed by the root of your mind.

01:04:41.000 And it's actually proven by one study: English cab drivers.

01:04:45.000 So, they decided to go, this is hilarious, right?

01:04:47.000 So, they decided to go do a bunch of neuroscience scans of English cab drivers, and they found that the hippocampus, which is responsible for navigational direction memory recall, was almost two times bigger and more active in a London cab driver than it was just for a regular person.

01:05:05.000 And so, if that was true, that either meant that every single one of them were destined to be cab drivers from a young age, and they had an outsized hippocampus from birth, or that something they were doing was actively changing their brain.

01:05:18.000 And so, if any of you have been to London, it's the worst organized city in the history of the planet, right?

01:05:23.000 It's like to become a London cab driver, you have to pass a test called the knowledge.

01:05:28.000 It's insanely hard, right?

01:05:29.000 Nothing makes sense, and one-way streets, and U-turns, and you know.

01:05:33.000 And they found that it's so hard that the brain actively changes for these cab drivers.

01:05:37.000 Why am I telling you this?

01:05:39.000 You are not captive to the environment that you were brought up in where you say, I didn't see the fruit.

01:05:43.000 Your mind can change, you can rewire yourself to bigger, better, and brighter stuff.

01:05:49.000 God bless you, man.

01:05:50.000 Thank you, appreciate it.

01:05:51.000 Thank you.

01:05:52.000 Sorry, I didn't mean to get all this stuff.

01:05:53.000 That's so good.

01:05:54.000 And I just got to re-emphasize this to anybody who came from a family where there was sin or destruction or hurt or pain.

01:06:02.000 You can be the person who changes your family tree in future generations if you put your faith in Jesus Christ and devote yourself to following Him.

01:06:10.000 And I just want to brag on just the fruit of Christianity.

01:06:15.000 You know, we talk about the truth a lot.

01:06:17.000 How awesome is it that our value system is so different than Hindu caste system belief? 1.00

01:06:22.000 So, if you, if you came up here and I was a Hindu caste system person, I'd say, sorry, your parents are crummy, you're probably crummy, nothing you can do about it. 1.00

01:06:29.000 Our belief is, no, you could you could break free of that and live a beautiful life for the kingdom, regardless of what you were born into.

01:06:39.000 Hey, Charlie, I loved your feedback on finding mentors and fasting.

01:06:45.000 But we got generations here, and I know we got entrepreneurs that would probably love to hear, like, what part did prayer play in starting your business 11 years ago?

01:06:56.000 And for the business owners, how do you And bring God from the top down in your organization.

01:07:07.000 I pray I'm doing that.

01:07:07.000 Well, thank you.

01:07:11.000 So, look, as far as prayer, prayer is unbelievably important, and you have to make intentional time to pray and to read the word.

01:07:19.000 If you are leading, whether or not you're leading a big organization, everyone in this room is leading something.

01:07:24.000 You're leading a family, you're leading a small group, you're leading, you know, a son or daughter, you're leading something.

01:07:30.000 And if you, as a man, are not leading something, well, then you got to figure that out.

01:07:36.000 I'll say that as nicely as I can.

01:07:38.000 You're not fulfilling your purpose.

01:07:39.000 You're not fulfilling your purpose.

01:07:40.000 And guess what? 1.00

01:07:41.000 Women want to be led. 1.00

01:07:43.000 Kids want to be led.

01:07:45.000 We're in the moral chaos that we are in this country because too often men have abdicated that role.

01:07:49.000 Women feel forced into a role, but they're not always biologically wired to do it. 0.64

01:07:53.000 Am I saying that women can't be leaders?

01:07:55.000 Of course, I'm not saying that.

01:07:56.000 I'm saying that men, if they're not leaders, you got some big problems, both societally and in a family.

01:08:02.000 Okay, so prayer is a big deal.

01:08:03.000 And then, as far as running a company, 450 employees, you know, starting something from nothing, you know, having to raise, I don't know, $85, $90 million a year, which it's not easy, a big challenge.

01:08:14.000 We have a great team that helps us.

01:08:15.000 So look, God is the center of everything that I do, trying to live out the gospel with truth and mercy, compassion.

01:08:23.000 But also, the best advice I could give is have one or two, preferably one page of standards for your executives, yourself, and your company.

01:08:36.000 And if you are the leader, you better not just live by those standards.

01:08:40.000 You must overlive by those standards.

01:08:43.000 And from my experience, that is one of the best ways to have a healthy company.

01:08:47.000 So if the standard is to work hard, I'm not saying that I work harder than every single person at Turning Point USA, but I put in the hours.

01:08:56.000 Let's put it that way, right?

01:08:57.000 I've traveled 3,150 days in the last decade.

01:09:01.000 I'm a million miler in every single airline.

01:09:05.000 You guys know the story, right?

01:09:07.000 And so I think that's helped.

01:09:08.000 And so you try to practice what you preach type thing.

01:09:10.000 But yeah, the final thing I'll say is leadership can be best summarized as judging, as reading people correctly and organizing them effectively.

01:09:19.000 And so reading people is the key to being a good leader.

01:09:23.000 Knowing the different character types and organizing them.

01:09:30.000 Hey, Troy.

01:09:32.000 Such a surprise seeing you here.

01:09:33.000 I heard about you coming over.

01:09:34.000 I just like booked it down here as soon as I could.

01:09:36.000 Awesome.

01:09:37.000 Thank you.

01:09:38.000 But to get straight to the point, I'm a younger person.

01:09:41.000 And so with this generation that I live in now with a lot of association, a lot of friends, it's crazy seeing how we try to be a person of being a man of the book or being traditional values.

01:09:52.000 It's having it looked down upon so much by everybody.

01:09:55.000 And it's hard to be able to teach those values.

01:09:57.000 And they feel like it's because of my age that I'm not able to actually pass it along or not have that absolute 100% knowledge to defend it.

01:10:05.000 And so how would I be able to make an impact in that kind of way by still being a younger person, but also wanting to make a change, not in my life, but to help guide people when it comes to, I like inviting them to church, but like what kind of stuff would you recommend for somebody of a younger age in the younger traditions to try to keep those things alive and try to keep them still impactful and meaningful in ways that it can help other people?

01:10:28.000 That's a beautiful question.

01:10:29.000 So don't let your age be a limiting factor to your impact.

01:10:32.000 If I did, I never would have started Turning Point USA at 18, right?

01:10:35.000 So get rid of that thought pattern that's from the enemy.

01:10:38.000 Dismiss it, throw it away, right?

01:10:40.000 And so you just, your age is never a limiting factor to your impact, right?

01:10:45.000 And I'm glad I had mentors that got that out of me because I used to believe that, right?

01:10:49.000 In fact, it's your greatest advantage.

01:10:50.000 Believe it or not, being young can get you into rooms that a 35 or 40 year old would not.

01:10:56.000 Anyone that runs a business here knows there's a soft spot for a 16, 17, eight-year-old that might want to intern, get advice, get 20 minutes of your time.

01:11:02.000 You are more than willing sometimes to accommodate an 18-year-old that didn't go to college, that looks hungry and has hustle and has willingness more so than a 40-year-old.

01:11:11.000 You're like, oh boy, you know, what am I doing here?

01:11:14.000 So your age is actually an advantage, not an impediment.

01:11:17.000 So use it to your advantage, right?

01:11:19.000 I was able to get into rooms that I had no business getting into because I was relentless.

01:11:24.000 And I think half of it was people felt sorry for me.

01:11:28.000 No, it's this young guy, you know, he's like not well dressed and he didn't go to college.

01:11:33.000 Like, sure, I'll, you know, great, it worked.

01:11:36.000 So just use that to your advantage.

01:11:38.000 Final thing, I guess I'll say is that, yeah, it's looked down upon, but it's increasingly not so.

01:11:42.000 There's a thirst and an appetite for the truth right now.

01:11:44.000 Look, I know that in most social society that's filled with hedonism and degeneracy and hookup culture, that it might be hard to live by the book.

01:11:53.000 But sin always has a price, right?

01:11:56.000 And one of the things we don't tell young people is that pleasure comes with a price, and immediate pleasure comes with a heavy price that is not felt immediately, right?

01:12:05.000 So think about it.

01:12:06.000 Immediate pleasure, okay, hookup culture of sex.

01:12:09.000 You might not feel the price immediately, right?

01:12:11.000 But, you know, when you get the phone call that the person, you know, gave you an STD, you have a price to pay.

01:12:18.000 Good luck, right?

01:12:19.000 And so what I'm getting at, though, is that if you are someone that abides by the truth with grace, you're not legalistic about it, you're not self-righteous about it, but you have love and compassion, but standards that you will not negotiate with, that will attract people like a magnet.

01:12:35.000 People will be drawn towards that.

01:12:37.000 And then don't be afraid to be a person of influence with people you've grown up with, people that you've gotten to know.

01:12:43.000 So I hope that speaks to you in some way.

01:12:45.000 But everywhere you go is a ministry field.

01:12:47.000 The people you grew up with, ministry field.

01:12:49.000 Your neighbors, ministry field, your coworkers, ministry field, right?

01:12:53.000 And God will put you in a place to be a missionary.

01:12:55.000 Every single one of us are called to be missionaries.

01:12:59.000 Sometimes the micro, the macro.

01:13:00.000 You run a business, be unafraid to say Merry Christmas and give a 30-second pitch on your conference call to all of your employees.

01:13:07.000 Be like, Jesus loves you.

01:13:08.000 You guys should figure it out.

01:13:09.000 I hope you go to church for Christmas, right?

01:13:12.000 I mean, you guys laugh, but like, what's the downside of doing that, right?

01:13:15.000 So thank you.

01:13:17.000 Yeah.

01:13:17.000 And I can just say, like, I became a pastor pretty young, and some of my greatest encouragement came from older saints who were just so excited to see young people doing something that was honoring to God.

01:13:28.000 We're going to go to a question that was texted in.

01:13:33.000 I work for a woke company.

01:13:34.000 They require us to use pronouns and the like.

01:13:37.000 Do you have any advice for someone that's going to continue to work in that sort of environment?

01:13:42.000 It's a really important question.

01:13:43.000 So I want to preface this by saying I'm not giving advice.

01:13:46.000 What I'm going to say is going to sound like advice because it will be very plainly and bluntly spoken, but I am not one to parachute in and say you should do something abrupt while you have to pay for a mortgage and provide for kids.

01:13:57.000 Okay.

01:13:58.000 I want to make sure that that is said because I'm going to say something, you know, pretty blunt.

01:14:02.000 I would not be able to do that.

01:14:05.000 I personally would not be able to work for a company that was against my values.

01:14:11.000 And again, with the proper preface, I will say this.

01:14:15.000 I have seen more discord at home in marriages and with kids eventually as an overflow of an unhappy work life than I think we ever talk about.

01:14:30.000 So you have to think about that.

01:14:31.000 If you are tormented at work, home won't necessarily be a great spot either.

01:14:38.000 As a leader of the home, you're coming home and you had a bad day because you had to listen to Sally Sumerie, who's obviously a dude in a purple hair wig, you know, tell you that you're using the wrong, you know, and then you're being told you're a racist by this guy.

01:14:52.000 It's like the whole thing.

01:14:54.000 So my question for, you know, is if you are able to financially figure it out, you should probably find a company that is in alignment with your values.

01:15:07.000 And unless, unless you are finding fulfillment in looking at yourself as working for a woke company as a rescue mission to help people that are currently under that captivity, and I'll be very honest, that is very rare. 0.61

01:15:26.000 I am not even that person.

01:15:28.000 I'm actually more affected by my environment than I realized.

01:15:31.000 Like when I've moved to Phoenix, I was like, wait, you could see the sun and be happy and you don't have to be in Chicago all the time.

01:15:35.000 And like, I was like, I'm actually someone, everyone's different, by the way.

01:15:39.000 Some people thrive under, you know, oppression and darkness and they do better.

01:15:44.000 Other people do not.

01:15:45.000 Most people don't, by the way.

01:15:46.000 Most people are actually feed off their environment.

01:15:49.000 So anyway, that would be my, that's, there's no advice.

01:15:52.000 That's just my comment on it.

01:15:53.000 But here's what I will say.

01:15:54.000 Final thought.

01:15:56.000 The breakthrough, the peace, the shalom that I see in my emails of people that leave bad companies and go to righteous ones is hard to even put into words.

01:16:08.000 The people that have left in bold acts of faith and courage away from woke companies to ones that share their worldview, they say, thank God I trusted you enough to go without a salary for a month to go find a job that didn't make me have to wear a mask, get the vax, and use pronouns that are fake.

01:16:26.000 Yeah.

01:16:27.000 And I have to second that.

01:16:31.000 I appreciate how you phrase that with some gentleness on the front end.

01:16:37.000 And that's really considerate.

01:16:38.000 But it is important to think about Augustine said virtue is rightly ordered loves.

01:16:43.000 And we are commanded, a man should provide for his family.

01:16:46.000 If he doesn't, he's worse than an unbeliever. 1.00

01:16:48.000 But one of the top 10 commandments is you shall not lie.

01:16:53.000 No, that's exactly right.

01:16:54.000 So if you're willing to lie in order to, quote, provide for your family, then you are compromising something that is very serious to God.

01:17:03.000 And really what you need to do is probably take a step of trust in God, quit that job and trust him to provide one for you where you don't have to break one of the 10 commandments in order to work there.

01:17:17.000 Hey, Charlie, as someone dating one of your employees and been following you since before you started Turning Point, it's really awesome to see you here tonight.

01:17:27.000 You knew me in high school.

01:17:28.000 We had a lot of fun handing out the pocketbook constitutions last night as well.

01:17:32.000 So that was nice.

01:17:34.000 My question for you is something I heard you say both at San Jose, I think last month, and then at Amfest last year.

01:17:42.000 And I think a lot of the young men in this room could use those words.

01:17:46.000 You talk a lot about what young men can do to lead their families and provide.

01:17:50.000 And I think one of the points that I really liked about it was get married.

01:17:54.000 Yes.

01:17:54.000 You're big on that and start a family.

01:17:57.000 Do the hard and choose your heart.

01:17:59.000 So I just wanted to give you a chance to kind of talk about that a little bit, but just to hear you talk about it again, because you say it much better than I just did.

01:18:07.000 Well, first of all, thank you.

01:18:09.000 And thank you for listening.

01:18:10.000 It really means a lot.

01:18:12.000 Yeah, so I, I mean, I speak to a lot of young people and it's the most depressed, most suicidal, most alcohol-addicted, and most drug-addicted generation in history.

01:18:20.000 And they're wondering why.

01:18:21.000 Well, they've had more ease, comfort, pleasure, dopamine on demand than any generation in history. 0.87

01:18:26.000 Turns out they want to kill themselves a lot.

01:18:29.000 Something's not working. 0.92

01:18:30.000 And the church is largely silent.

01:18:32.000 Again, not this church, but the American church is largely silent on these issues.

01:18:36.000 One of the things that is missing from many of their lives is a fulfilling partner to be with.

01:18:41.000 So it comes from every direction.

01:18:43.000 Some of the young men say, oh, I don't need a lifelong partner. 0.94

01:18:46.000 I could just have as much sex as I want.

01:18:47.000 And I don't need to attach myself to anybody. 1.00

01:18:50.000 And the young ladies are somewhat of a different thing. 1.00

01:18:54.000 They want free sex with no obligation. 1.00

01:18:56.000 And just so we're clear, hookup culture is bad for everybody.

01:18:58.000 It's far worse for women than it is men, okay? 1.00

01:19:01.000 It's bad for men and women. 0.99

01:19:02.000 It is far worse.

01:19:02.000 It's not even close.

01:19:03.000 Okay. 1.00

01:19:04.000 It creates neurotic women that are very, very hard to heal. 1.00

01:19:08.000 Literally, no further than the, there's spiritual aspects to this, but women bind and bond literally neurochemically with a man after they have sex with them. 0.54

01:19:19.000 So if they have like 30 or 40 sexual partners, they're in like 40 different directions of like irreconciled emotional attachments that men tend to not have that issue as much.

01:19:29.000 It's a real thing.

01:19:31.000 But so it's very simple, though.

01:19:33.000 It's that the easy thing actually makes us miserable.

01:19:37.000 That is modernity.

01:19:39.000 If you wanted to make the bumper sticker of the country you live in and your kids are being raised in, is the easy thing is making you miserable.

01:19:47.000 The cell phone is making you miserable.

01:19:50.000 Hulu and Netflix is making you miserable. 0.99

01:19:52.000 Gossiping is making you miserable. 0.99

01:19:55.000 Drinking is making you miserable. 1.00

01:19:57.000 Doing weed is making you miserable. 1.00

01:19:59.000 Watching porn is making you miserable. 0.96

01:20:01.000 And one of the things that we are commanded to do, get married and have kids, is very hard.

01:20:07.000 But not only is it awesome, it is necessary, fulfilling, and it's not talked about in positive terms to a lot of young people.

01:20:18.000 They look at it as an impediment and a burden and maybe something that they'll attach onto their lifestyle later on as a temporary thing and get divorced if it doesn't work out.

01:20:28.000 And what a time for us as Christians and believers and men to lean in and talk about this eternal covenant that God gives us that we ought to do, not just that we get to do.

01:20:41.000 And then to have kids.

01:20:42.000 I mean, we need to have way more kids in this civilization.

01:20:44.000 You know, some of you guys might say, I'm tapped out.

01:20:46.000 No, no, no, have another couple of kids, right?

01:20:48.000 We are on the verge of a population collapse right now.

01:20:52.000 We are having less kids than ever before.

01:20:54.000 They're looked at as a burden, as a nuisance, and as something that is not, you know, platformed or something, not as something that is elevated.

01:21:03.000 And yeah, the final thing I'll say is that, you know, we don't have to overthink this.

01:21:07.000 You know, we act as if because we have the fruits of modernity, you know, Wi-Fi, Twitter, cross-country flights, that we have to kind of like redesign society.

01:21:17.000 It turns out that the simple things that have been true for thousands of years in the scriptures are actually the things that are right in front of us that we're denying.

01:21:27.000 And I will say that, you know, with young men, there's a serious crisis and there's the lost boys and all that.

01:21:31.000 But for those of you that with daughters, I really hope you communicate to them that not only is it okay, but they probably should get married earlier than later.

01:21:44.000 And one of these saddest realities is we have more single young women in their 30s than married single young women in their 30s.

01:21:51.000 And the lurch leftward in the American urban areas, especially here in Phoenix, are 30-something year-old women with college degrees and cats. 0.93

01:22:00.000 And, you know, they have, you know, they watch Emily in Paris and they have a degree from USC and they drink a lot of Chardonnay and benzodiazepins.

01:22:11.000 Like, why won't men love me?

01:22:13.000 It's like, yeah, I mean, you should have got married when you were in your early 20s.

01:22:19.000 And they're like, that's not fair.

01:22:21.000 Okay, well, I don't know what to tell you, right?

01:22:23.000 Life is not Netflix, okay?

01:22:26.000 And again, they end up complaining a lot, become super bitter and hardened and run out of eggs, and then they blame us.

01:22:31.000 And so, which is exactly one of the reasons why I can't stand Taylor Swift. 0.99

01:22:39.000 She's a terrible role model, right? 1.00

01:22:40.000 Which is, I mean, my entire, no, I mean it is that is what an awful role model for young women, right? 1.00

01:22:48.000 Whole career bashing on men. 1.00

01:22:49.000 She's obviously mentally unstable. 1.00

01:22:51.000 She can't hold on to any relationship. 1.00

01:22:54.000 She fills out concerts of disgruntled and angry women. 1.00

01:22:57.000 I know some of you are like, my wife went to the concert. 1.00

01:22:59.000 Okay, great, sure.

01:22:59.000 Okay, there's exceptions to every rule.

01:23:01.000 Right.

01:23:01.000 So, and I get these emails all the time.

01:23:04.000 My wife is a big Taylor Swift fan.

01:23:05.000 Like, you got some serious problems, man.

01:23:07.000 So, that's a separate issue.

01:23:10.000 But anyway, not to belabor the point is that for young women, that's a terrible role model, right?

01:23:16.000 It's a terrible role model to have a 33, soon to be 34-year-old pop star who's worth billions of dollars, who, you know, who has like gratuitous premarital sex and is, you know, debate, you know, dating a vaccine shield who calls himself an NFL football player, you know, that, you know, that's a platform for young women. 0.72

01:23:33.000 Like, actually, no, like maybe you should get married in your early 20s and have lots of children because that's what you biologically really want to do.

01:23:39.000 And you want a culture that gives you permission to do the thing that the Bible tells you to do.

01:23:42.000 So that's a long-winded response to if we actually just told people to get married at a younger age, we'd have a much better society.

01:23:48.000 Yeah, that's good.

01:23:49.000 Let's go to another text-in question.

01:23:55.000 It's, I mean, getting married is what God made you to do.

01:23:58.000 And if you care about conservative values, people who get married and have kids develop conservative values because they realize, oh, wait, the way the world actually is matters more than ideas that abstractions.

01:24:09.000 Yeah.

01:24:11.000 I'm very successful in my industry, and I feel like I want to start my own company in my industry.

01:24:16.000 However, I'm the sole provider for my family with a wife and four kids.

01:24:20.000 What advice do you have for me going into this uncertain and shaky economy?

01:24:24.000 Yeah, it's a great question.

01:24:25.000 So, number one, there's never a good time to start a business.

01:24:28.000 So, climate is a bad, bad excuse not to start a business.

01:24:31.000 So, I guess I'm an entrepreneur and so I give advice to entrepreneurs every so often, you know, because we build something from nothing.

01:24:40.000 And if I use environment or climate as a reason to start or not start turning point USA, it never would have happened.

01:24:46.000 I think there's been like three years where people said the economy wasn't risky or uncertain, right?

01:24:51.000 So, if you want to start a business, that's a bad reason not to do it.

01:24:54.000 But, but you have to know your own financial situation.

01:24:56.000 Look, here's the thing: you start a business from nothing, you're probably not going to earn any money for the first two years unless you have an angel investor and you carve a salary for yourself from the beginning, okay?

01:25:05.000 Or you have a ridiculously generous bank that's not going to come out right now and allow you to carve money out for yourself to pay yourself for a startup business.

01:25:11.000 That's number one.

01:25:12.000 Number two, though, is if you're not willing to bet on yourself and you're even asking the question, then it's probably not a good idea for you to start that business.

01:25:22.000 So, being an entrepreneur is basically betting on yourself, right?

01:25:25.000 I believe that I will be able to outwork the competition and solve a problem.

01:25:29.000 An entrepreneur is very simple: I find a problem and I want to solve it, and I want to charge people because I can solve the problem better than somebody else.

01:25:34.000 That's what an entrepreneur is, right?

01:25:36.000 So, you find a problem that people have.

01:25:38.000 For example, you know, the Uber guy, you know, okay, wow, tax is too expensive.

01:25:42.000 What if we democratize this at an app and we could charge people to do it?

01:25:45.000 You find a problem, you solve it.

01:25:45.000 That's what entrepreneurs do.

01:25:47.000 But, yeah, look, and then final, finally, I just want to make sure that everyone that knows this, if you have four kids and then you want to start a business, there will be a cost.

01:25:57.000 And you will spend, if you want to really be a hard driver, that will mean less time with your kids.

01:26:04.000 There is no way around it.

01:26:05.000 There is no way to sugarcoat it.

01:26:07.000 Being a founder, starter, entrepreneur at a high level and four kids, something will have to be trimmed, right?

01:26:13.000 At some point, you'll have to say no.

01:26:15.000 And you might be okay with that, but I just want to make sure that everyone understands that it is seemingly from the outside glamorous to start a business from nothing.

01:26:25.000 But there's nothing quite like an 11-year overnight success story, right?

01:26:30.000 Where you have to pain and labor and fire people, hire people.

01:26:34.000 You know, I've done 285 red-eye flights, not fun, right?

01:26:41.000 Where you're just destroyed the next day and you have to give speeches and all that sort of stuff.

01:26:44.000 So, if you're willing to do that, great.

01:26:46.000 I will say this.

01:26:48.000 Now that I have a daughter, I would not start Turning Point USA now that I have a daughter.

01:26:54.000 It was uniquely for a period of life where I didn't have a girlfriend, didn't have a daughter.

01:26:59.000 I needed to be able to work 20-hour days for five years straight.

01:27:04.000 Listen, guys, I wish we could get more questions, but the heart can only endure what the bladder can take.

01:27:13.000 Right?

01:27:14.000 We would go all night.

01:27:16.000 And I want to just take a minute to address you guys who might have come tonight because you love Charlie and we love you, Charlie.

01:27:23.000 Honestly, we're really thankful for you.

01:27:24.000 Sorry if I was too direct, but I mean, I'm not really sorry, but I mean.

01:27:33.000 But I do just want to take a moment to do, because I know we probably have some guys that might have come out tonight because you're a fan of Charlie's and you love the conservative values that he stands for.

01:27:42.000 But I do want to speak to those of you who aren't yet followers of Jesus that he's fighting for, the truth that he's pushing, the justice that he's seeking.

01:27:50.000 Those are all things that are ultimately rooted in Jesus Christ, who is the way, the truth, and the life.

01:28:01.000 So I just want to take a minute to do this.

01:28:03.000 I'm going to ask everybody just to bow their heads for a minute in the moment of prayer.

01:28:07.000 And if you're not yet a follower of Jesus, but in this moment, you say, hey, there's so much crazy stuff going on in the world.

01:28:13.000 I don't know how to make sense of it.

01:28:14.000 You need to know that you'll never have peace or any sense of purpose or direction until you choose to follow Christ and surrender your life to him.

01:28:23.000 He is the one who died on the cross to pay the price for your sins so that you could be forgiven and live guilt-free.

01:28:29.000 He's the one who conquered death by rising again, proving he is the Son of God.

01:28:34.000 And he offers you a simple invitation.

01:28:36.000 He said, if you'll put your trust in me to save you, if you'll honor me as your Lord, and if you'll follow me to the best of your ability, I will save you from sin.

01:28:46.000 I'll adopt you into the family of God, and I'll give you the gift of eternal life.

01:28:50.000 And for someone here right now, this could be your moment.

01:28:52.000 Maybe you're watching online and you'd say, that's me.

01:28:55.000 I've been looking for answers.

01:28:56.000 I've been looking for hope and for truth.

01:28:58.000 It's Jesus.

01:28:59.000 And so in this moment, if that's you, I just want you to pray this prayer with me.

01:29:03.000 I'm just going to lead you in this prayer and you can repeat it wherever you're at.

01:29:06.000 And if you mean it, God will hear you and he'll respond to you.

01:29:10.000 So whoever that is, pray this with me and just say, God, I confess that I've sinned against you and I need your forgiveness.

01:29:16.000 I'm putting my trust in Jesus, that he is your son, that he died on the cross for my sins and that he rose again, defeating death.

01:29:24.000 I thank you for always loving me.

01:29:27.000 I ask you to lead me from this day forward.

01:29:29.000 I'm putting all my hope in you.

01:29:32.000 And if that's you, just keep your heads bowed for a minute.

01:29:34.000 If that's you, just as a way of responding physically, I'm going to ask you to raise your hand up to God just to be bold.

01:29:39.000 If you just prayed that prayer right now with me, just raise your hand up high.

01:29:42.000 That's awesome.

01:29:42.000 In the back, in the front, over here, over here, over here, there, multiple hands.

01:29:47.000 Anybody else, don't be embarrassed of that.

01:29:49.000 It's the best decision you ever made in your life.

01:29:50.000 Raise your hand up high.

01:29:51.000 All right.

01:29:52.000 Hey, guys, let's give a hand for those dudes who just made that decision.

01:29:57.000 Praise God.

01:29:59.000 And if that's you on your way out, we have tables with orange Bibles on it, and someone will help you in your new journey of faith.

01:30:07.000 We want to help you in that.

01:30:08.000 But otherwise, can we just give a hand to Charlie, everybody?

01:30:11.000 Yeah.

01:30:16.000 Thank you, guys.

01:30:19.000 Thank you, guys.

01:30:20.000 Just really quick.

01:30:21.000 We have a big event coming up at the Phoenix Convention Center, December 16th to the 19th.

01:30:26.000 Tucker Carlson will be there, Candace Owens.

01:30:28.000 It's called America Fest.

01:30:30.000 We'd love to have you guys attend.

01:30:32.000 And finally, my favorite word in the English language is earn.

01:30:35.000 We'd love a chance to earn to become your daily or weekly podcast or news source.

01:30:41.000 So there's a link that you guys can follow on your phone.

01:30:43.000 If you would do it, it really helps us out and is a way for you guys to support us.

01:30:47.000 But God bless you, Ryan.

01:30:48.000 You're doing a great job.

01:30:49.000 Thank you guys so much.

01:30:50.000 Thank you.

01:30:55.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:30:57.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:31:00.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

01:31:04.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk dot com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 24, 2023

How To Be a Bold Man — LIVE from Generation Church

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