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00:02:19.000I mean, just drop everything and come to Phoenix.
00:03:03.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:04:32.000And I can tell you this, this is true.
00:04:34.000Charlie is a devoted follower of Jesus Christ.
00:04:43.000And I know with how much notoriety he has, you might wonder, like, well, what's he really like?
00:04:48.000I can just tell you from time with him in private, he's humble, he's kind, he cares about people, and he really does exhibit Jesus and how he carries himself.
00:05:06.000So I was hoping to just kind of start with this.
00:05:09.000Could you give us some of the backstory of you going from a young man who was first year college student, I believe, and you ended up starting Turning Point USA at a young age?
00:05:22.000Can you just kind of talk about what that was like and what led up to that?
00:05:26.000And when did it become clear to you that that was God's calling for your life?
00:05:30.000Yeah, again, honored to be here, everybody.
00:05:32.000So, yeah, I mean, I started Turning Point USA when I was 18 years old.
00:05:36.000Prior to that, in fifth grade, I gave my life to the Lord, most important decision I made in my life.
00:05:42.000And we need to talk as men more openly about that and how everything else in life is cool and fine, but that is the most important decision.
00:05:52.000And so that really set me on a course to pursue truth.
00:05:56.000I believe the center of everything we believe as Christians is the truth, not lies.
00:05:59.000And we should seek truth in everything that we do.
00:06:02.000And so when I was 18 years old, I wanted to go to West Point, didn't get in, decided to take a gap year.
00:06:56.000But yeah, no, I went on an adventure, and it's been wild and crazy and unexpected.
00:07:02.000And quite honestly, beyond my wildest imagination.
00:07:05.000What started as just me with an idea and maybe a couple close friends has turned into the largest movement of its kind, the largest conservative student movement in the country on thousands of high school and college campuses.
00:07:18.000Our social media footprint is beyond anything I could have ever imagined.
00:07:25.000We have been blessed with incredible graduates.
00:07:28.000Candace Owens started with us at Turning Point USA, Brandon Tatum, Ana Paulina, who's a member of Congress, started at Turning Point USA.
00:07:37.000We have hundreds of thousands of students that are still part of Turning Point.
00:07:40.000We have TPUSA Faith, which is trying to strengthen the American church and kick wokeism out of American Christianity.
00:07:59.000There was probably a point where you felt like, okay, this is definitely God's calling for me, his purpose for me.
00:08:05.000And there's probably a lot of guys in the room who are trying to figure out their purpose.
00:08:09.000What was it like for you when it started to crystallize?
00:08:11.000Like, God definitely made me for this and is calling me to this.
00:08:14.000Yeah, the best answer I have is I first knew what wasn't my purpose.
00:08:18.000And my purpose I knew was not to go get a meaningless piece of paper from some, you know, Midwest university.
00:08:26.000And that's a controversial thing to believe.
00:08:28.00011 years ago, even so to this day, it's kind of built into upper middle class suburban society that if you're a good student, Eagle Scout, you know, get A's, you play football, basketball, you're in honor society, you take AP classes like I did, it's not a matter of if you are going to college, it's where you're going to college.
00:08:44.000And for I didn't get into West Point and I was on my own financially of what college I was going to go to.
00:08:50.000So I had to borrow the money and it didn't feel right to go study, you know, go borrow $70,000, $80,000 to go study North African lesbian poetry or whatever they do now at these schools.
00:09:03.000And so I knew what I didn't want to do.
00:09:06.000And somebody gave me some great advice early on, which is, Charlie, you have a couple gifts.
00:09:12.000If you enjoy those gifts, even better.
00:09:15.000So follow the gifts that you enjoy and then see what God has in store for you.
00:09:39.000And so, yeah, I just kind of did that along the way.
00:09:41.000And it's just been this amazing journey.
00:09:43.000But honestly, it's about trial and error and testing what you are doing to God's perfect and pleasing will, which it says very, you know, clearly in the scriptures.
00:10:07.000And, you know, there's a great quote that Luther had, which is that, you know, someone who makes shoes, who's a Christian, doesn't glorify God by putting a cross in every single shoe, right?
00:10:17.000He glorifies God by doing beautiful and excellent things and sharing the gospel where appropriate.
00:10:30.000How you build your family, the value you create.
00:10:32.000And so, you know, for me personally, I was a little uncomfortable at times because I was told by some Christians, you know, Charlie, you're not doing your highest calling because you're not being a pastor.
00:10:45.000You know, my now pastor, Rob McCoy, is here in the front row, and he affirmed that actually what I was doing was fighting for God's natural law, fighting for the principles that are laid out in the eternal scriptures that built our civilization.
00:10:59.000And, you know, even more importantly, that trying to rescue a generation that is lost in misery and despair and deception that is looking for the truth and only the truth of Jesus Christ can set them free.
00:11:10.000And, you know, like all things, and those of you that have built businesses know this, once you get momentum, that's really the key, right?
00:11:16.000So going from zero to one is the hardest thing.
00:11:18.000Going from one to two is way easier than zero to one.
00:11:21.000And going two to four is easier and four to eight.
00:11:23.000And then before you know it, you know, what just started as yourself is, you know, we now have 450 employees, right?
00:11:28.000And 300,000 donors across the country.
00:11:31.000And it's all God that has done that, right?
00:11:36.000And then constantly comparing, am I doing, am what I doing is to the glory of God?
00:11:40.000And that doesn't mean that you don't make mistakes, you're not sinful, and you don't, you know, are in error off the target.
00:11:45.000That's what literally sin means in the scriptures.
00:11:48.000But I found that along the way that God was, there were so many God moments, Ryan, so many blessings that would defy reason that I knew that I was on the correct path.
00:12:59.000He actually got along with his father-in-law, Jethro, which is amazing.
00:13:02.000And, you know, he's kind of just chilling out at Midian.
00:13:05.000God's like, nope, I'm taking you and you're going to go, you know, lead the most, you know, the group of the least impressive people that I could possibly find, the Hebrews, that are going to complain the entire time and never give you any credit.
00:13:15.000And you're going to want to quit and lead them to the promised land.
00:13:19.000And by the way, one of my favorite, Numbers 12 is one of my favorite books, the whole Bible, because he, you know, God is writing through Moses, but I think Moses put this in himself.
00:13:44.000Because anyway, that's a separate issue.
00:13:46.000But what I love about the story of Moses is one of obedience and duty and that it was God's call on his life to do something adventurous and something bold.
00:13:57.000He was not just a philosopher, not just a leader, but he was an Eved.
00:14:02.000And that's an interesting word as men.
00:14:04.000So Eved in Hebrew means slave, but it also means servant.
00:15:07.000The truest freedom comes from voluntarily submitting your life to Christ.
00:15:13.000Now, as a dad, looking back on your childhood and all that you're carrying today, when you think, because we've been talking about marriage in our church recently and fatherhood and parenting, what are some of the things you think your parents did?
00:15:27.000No parents are perfect, but what are some of the things that they did that you feel like best prepared you for what now God is using you to do?
00:15:34.000Yeah, I mean, my parents were amazing and are amazing.
00:15:38.000And they were the opposite of helicopter parents.
00:15:40.000Now there's like snowplow parents where they want to remove all obstacles, right?
00:15:47.000They were they instilled character, but they came from a very interesting background where they were very bohemian in some ways, if you know what I mean.
00:15:55.000They were like, okay, be home at nine.
00:16:08.000It was be home by when it's a little bit after dark.
00:16:11.000And there was almost a spirit of self-governance that had to set in where my parents literally sometimes had no idea where I was and I had no idea where I was.
00:16:20.000And you had to kind of figure out your way home.
00:16:23.000And I talked to some of these parents.
00:16:32.000And I'm not sure what's better, but I know what was good for me.
00:16:36.000You know, and I'm not trying to tell you parenting advice.
00:16:38.000I just know what worked for me is that my parents were kind of like, okay, if you don't want to go to college, then that's your, that's your choice.
00:17:30.000That they were there, that they were watching.
00:17:32.000They never interfered, you know, with coaches or any of that stuff.
00:17:35.000But it was if I wanted to practice, they were there to help me practice, right?
00:17:39.000They were always over the top supportive with anything that I wanted to do to push myself to get better, trainers or pouring into.
00:17:46.000I think they struck a pretty amazing balance.
00:17:49.000And they're not nearly as political as I am, which is the hilarious part of all this, because it really was, you know, set your own course and do what you want to do.
00:17:57.000But yeah, also, and the final thing I'll say is they made a point, and I'll be eternally, you know, in their debt for this.
00:18:04.000At second grade, they said, I don't know why they said it, but they said, you need to go to Christian school, right?
00:18:10.000And third, fourth, and fifth grade, three years of Christian school in third, fourth, and fifth grade, never went back, changed my entire life.
00:18:18.000And, you know, you think of we now reach millions of people for the gospel every week, right?
00:18:24.000And third, fourth, and fifth grade changed my life and potentially, you know, now the impact of everything that we're doing, you know, through our outreach.
00:20:50.000But yeah, when the New York Times used to run a front page story about me, it used to really hurt.
00:20:56.000I used to really have normal stuff that most people deal with.
00:21:01.000When you have four full-time reporters from the biggest news agencies internationally going to high school kids that you went to high school with, trying to get dirt on you like you're Brett Kavanaugh, right?
00:21:18.000And so you, like all things, for those of you that run businesses, you know this, the first time you had to fire somebody, it's really hard.
00:21:25.000I'm not saying it gets easier, but you develop muscles, right?
00:21:29.000And the same thing, by the way, for those of you that might be terrified of public speaking, you know this, right, Ryan?
00:21:38.000We might have had a natural gift thing, but it gets easier, right?
00:21:42.000And so for those of you that might say, I don't know if I can withstand the attacks, you have to, first of all, you have to understand that it does get easier.
00:21:57.000And I mean, call me like an old-fashioned Christian.
00:22:01.000I think that your success is actually measured by how much you are persecuted for telling the truth.
00:22:06.000And the people that I respect the most in this country are the people that are constantly under barrage and constantly under attack, you know, for telling the truth.
00:23:56.000He releases all these documents, and it turns out that there was like a special blacklist with two names on it, Dan Bongino and Charlie Kirk on it, right?
00:24:13.000It says very in James 1, one of my favorite chapters of the word, first of all, it says, pray for wisdom and God will give it to you generously, but blessed are you who are persecuted.
00:24:24.000And if you guys want a little bit of a truth, you know, missile for you tonight, if you're not persecuted, you're probably not telling a lot of truth.
00:24:51.000And, you know, and especially the last couple of years, and this is something that we as men must realize, you know, the scriptures tell us that Satan or his platoon, because Satan is not ubiquitous, he's not omnipotent, he's not omnipresent, but he does have demons, which are fallen angels that are able to create chaos and discord, especially in the mind.
00:25:12.000They have certain vectors that they're able to attach onto.
00:25:16.000This is one of the main reasons why the scriptures are so clear about guarding your flesh and guarding against your flesh.
00:25:22.000That's why the spiritual discipline of fasting is a superpower against Satan and spiritual activity because it's you consciously saying, my flesh does not dominate me, right?
00:25:32.000I'm going to say no to what I think I want.
00:25:37.000So one thing for me is fasting at least once a week for 24 hours minimum has been a game changer for me.
00:25:43.000But yes, I mean, so, and then also the consumption of pornography and or the wandering eye for a man is the most, is the easiest superhighway for Satan to get into a man to be able to throw them off their marriage, throw them off their job.
00:26:00.000We as men must do a much better job of elevating and celebrating how awesome marriage and raising kids is.
00:26:14.000We must do a much better job of also warning and protecting young men from pornography.
00:26:19.000I struggled with pornography at a young age.
00:26:22.000And there was not a single church ministry or person that understood that it is the modern day digital heroin.
00:26:30.000It is more dangerous than I think anyone realizes.
00:26:33.000There is a book by a now deceased secular neuroscientist.
00:26:37.000His name is Gary Wilson, Your Brain on Porn.
00:26:40.000If there was one book that you, as a father of a son or as a leader in a church, should read and internalize, it is that book.
00:26:47.000It will blow your mind to the actual neural pathway changes, how it changes the plasticity nearly permanently of a young man of even 30 minutes of pornography consumption a week.
00:26:57.000And if you have sons, they're probably watching a lot more pornography than that.
00:27:11.000But if there's just one thing, please do your best to protect your sons or the men in your life from this satanic invasion of the next generation.
00:27:22.000And we, and so moms and women are built to help sons and young men from certain attacks.
00:27:32.000We as men are far more effective in telling young men to avoid sexual sin than moms or women.
00:27:40.000A father figure is far more important and more effective.
00:27:45.000And so think about that however you want.
00:27:48.000And so anyway, and thankfully I've, you know, broke free of that and all those different things that young men struggle with.
00:27:56.000Do we still have that link up on the app?
00:27:57.000If you are struggling with pornography, if you open up our church app on the homepage, it just says struggling with porn.
00:28:04.000You can join one of our conquer groups.
00:28:05.000We'll help you overcome that and get freedom.
00:28:08.000I think it's so important, something we've talked about recently.
00:28:11.000You text me this article in the summer from The Hill, July 31st.
00:28:15.000It said, high school boys are trending conservative.
00:28:20.000And the narrative has been that all young people are constantly getting more liberal.
00:28:24.000So what's causing this, you think, for high school boys?
00:28:27.000Yeah, this is great news, everybody, by the way.
00:28:41.000This is not about being a victim or whining or complaining, but from the media that we consume to the one-liners that we say to if you think about just an average sitcom, a cartoon sitcom, the father figure is almost always overweight, bumbling, and a moron.
00:28:59.000And the man is portrayed as, you know, kind of an afterthought.
00:29:04.000And it's the mom or the female that is smart and is the problem solver.
00:29:10.000That's just one example of hundreds that I could give.
00:29:13.000Not to mention our entire education system is feminized.
00:29:17.000We have sperm rates and testosterone rates down 80% over the last 20 years.
00:29:21.000And not a single political leader in either party wants to ask the question why.
00:29:25.000I mean, instead of a stupid hearing on UFOs, I would rather have a hearing on like, why are testosterone rates down 80%?
00:29:58.000But no, but it's a deeper point, though, is that young 14, 15, and 16-year-old men are, you know, lectured about toxic masculinity.
00:30:05.000They're told that there's something inherently wrong about being a man and that they see this trans movement, which is from the pit of hell saying that you should change your gender, change your sex.
00:30:14.000And they're looking for anything that affirms them as being a man.
00:30:18.000And the only bad part about this poll, everybody, is they're actually not looking to the church because the church has been infected by the spirit of Jezebel.
00:30:25.000The church has largely become a feminist institution of female pastors and all that stuff.
00:30:31.000And I'm not saying I personally don't believe in female pastors, but I'm just saying that we've overplayed our, I don't know if that's the position of this church.
00:31:06.000And we should ask ourselves the question, why is it that Andrew Tate, who's a kickboxing Muslim, is more popular than any outspoken Christian?
00:31:13.000Why is it Joe Rogan, who is a like mushroom LSD taking, you know, jujitsu, UFC commentating, rather salty language communicator, more popular?
00:31:25.000I, you know, I don't, I don't agree with him a lot, but I think he's very effective.
00:31:28.000And the answer is honestly, they're embracing a, not just an aesthetic, but a line of thinking that empowers 15, 16, and 17, 18-year-old men.
00:31:38.000What I'm going after, everybody, is there is a harvest opportunity for young men for the American church and for Christianity, unlike anything we have ever seen before.
00:31:56.000You know, at our church, we do believe that a husband is ahead of his wife, that churches should be primarily led by a man, that men should lead the way spiritually, and that when we follow God's pattern in that way, God blesses it.
00:33:55.000But if you design a civilization only on the feminine and you have none of the masculine, which is about purpose, grittiness, discipline, self-control, dare I even say courage, you know, vision casting, more macro, well, then your society will collapse.
00:34:13.000And so we only teach our young people what happens if a society gets too masculine, right?
00:34:18.000You think of Hitler or Mussolini or Stalin.
00:34:20.000What happens if a society gets too feminine?
00:34:22.000We never even ask that question, right?
00:34:24.000You get equally, if not worse, tyranny if a society gets too feminine.
00:34:29.000And here's the ultimate red pill for those of you guys that want to try to blow the brain, you know, like if there's a relative on Thanksgiving that says men and women are basically the same or, you know, a man can become a woman, right?
00:34:39.000So the easy argument is that men shouldn't compete in female sports.
00:34:46.000Why is it that the International Chess Federation made a massive new declaration saying that men, biological men, under no circumstances are allowed to compete in the female division in chess?
00:36:43.000I want to, this is a cultural question that starts out by, I want to just thinking about what happened on October 7th with the attack in Israel, which was done by evil demonic terrorists.
00:36:56.000Many Americans have been shocked to see so much support for Hamas coming from organizations that are these progressive organizations like BLM.
00:37:06.000And I've been seeing all this rift amongst left-leaning social progressives where half of them are going, how are you guys supporting Hamas, these evil terrorists?
00:37:18.000And it seems like it's causing this rift within progressive culture.
00:37:22.000Like, what do you think that's going to do to progressives in the years to come here?
00:39:24.000Comparing and contrasting the life of Muhammad, you know, who married a nine-year-old, was a genocidal maniac, and was, you know, sold people into sex slavery with the ministry of Jesus Christ.
00:39:32.000I think that's important, but I'm not.
00:39:34.000That was one of the hardest things for me as a young pastor.
00:39:36.000Anytime I talked about a false religion, I would get Christians in the church who would get upset with me.
00:39:42.000And I'm like, you realize that if Jesus is the only way to heaven, then by default, every other religion not only comes from hell, but leads back to hell.
00:40:21.000And they have in common an ethos of hatred of the great Satan, which is the West.
00:40:30.000And you live in what they call the great Satan, which is America.
00:40:33.000And they hate America because we were founded on the inerrant word of God and the promises articulated in the word of God.
00:40:39.000The book of Deuteronomy was by far the most quoted book in the founding of America by America's founding fathers, by far secular or religious book, by the way.
00:40:48.000This idea of charity, defense of the innocent, separation of powers, independent judiciary.
00:40:54.000They don't just come ex nihilo out of nothing.
00:40:56.000They were an outgrowth of the word of God.
00:40:59.000And so what the people of the Palestinian authority and what the leftists have in common is not, you know, the homosexual thing or whatever.
00:41:10.000They hate us so much that they're willing to create what they call an intersectional coalition to link arms together to destroy the great Satan.
00:41:19.000And it really is a war for the West, is what it is.
00:41:22.000And I see it happening on college campuses every single day.
00:41:28.000I can go as deep as you'd like to go, Ryan, but you know, we as the church built the West, right?
00:41:34.00055 out of 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were Bible-believing church attending Christians.
00:41:39.000We have a Christian inheritance here in the West that we must realize is easily, it's easily taken away if the church does not take its rightful role.
00:41:51.000They say, Charlie, you're too political to be speaking in a church.
00:41:54.000And I say, well, okay, well, then what do you make of Esther, Mordecai, Daniel, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, and Joseph, who were obviously political figures who are counselors to the king.
00:42:03.000And they say, well, we only want to preach the gospel.
00:42:05.000And I say, well, is the gospel the red-letter Bible of only things that Jesus said, or is the gospel the entirety of the word of God and the promises of God's story from creation to fall to redemption to salvation to reclamation of everything that God created?
00:42:20.000And I don't think we should have a myopic view of the scriptures.
00:42:23.000You must have a comprehensive view of the scriptures.
00:42:25.000It's either Jesus is the king of your entire life or he's only the king in charge of things that you decide for him for your life.
00:42:31.000So Jesus should be in charge of your marriage, entirely your church, in charge of your political decisions, right?
00:42:35.000In charge of how you act in every single regard possible, in charge of how you educate your kids.
00:44:01.000You know, people in society who weren't even Christians go, that doesn't seem right.
00:44:06.000You know, so I think those are opportunities for the church to offer truth and hope and life and the authority of God's word to a world that's saying, this is crazy.
00:44:17.000This can't be the way it's supposed to be.
00:44:21.000You wrote a book called The College Scam.
00:44:23.000And I know there are some jobs where you have to go to college to be a doctor, to become a lawyer, to become an engineer.
00:44:31.000But what, with your experience and all your time on college campuses, what do you think young adults, teens, and parents of kids preparing for the next level of education, what should they know about college today that they might not know?
00:44:46.000Yeah, I mean, I will say, I wrote this book and I got in some very spirited debates with secular Jews about a year and a half ago because they, especially very wealthy secular Jews, love them to death.
00:44:58.000We agree on a lot of stuff politically, but this was an issue that bothered them.
00:45:01.000In secular Jewish society, education is a big deal.
00:45:04.000And honestly, God bless them for making a big deal, largely one of the reasons why secular Jewish society is so successful.
00:45:11.000But there was a real big debate, right?
00:45:13.000Of I was indicting the character and honestly saying bluntly that Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Penn, Cornell, and Columbia are at odds with American values and subsidizing Jew hatred.
00:45:27.000And I received a lot of disagreement from secular Jews on that.
00:45:32.000In the last week, I've received a fair amount of phone calls of, and I don't even delight or rejoice in it.
00:45:39.000I mean, they've been very heavy phone calls.
00:46:22.000They want to take your kids and turn them against you and turn them against the country.
00:46:27.000They do not want them to believe in God.
00:46:29.000They do not want them to be filled with gratitude or joy or happiness or purpose.
00:46:33.000They want them to be bitter and vengeful and then deployed on the rest of us to be weaponized complainers, aka Democrats, until we give them something.
00:46:53.000So look, if you send a kid to college, you are playing Russian roulette with their values.
00:47:35.000And James Lindsey talks about that too in his book on Marxism about how that's part of their playbook to infiltrate the universities and then not like just get it into these kids so that they go out into all the, and it's happening even in Christian universities.
00:47:47.000I mean, there are a fair amount of captured Christian schools too.
00:47:50.000And so the next question is, Charlie, but then where do I send my kid, right?
00:47:54.000I challenge the premise, maybe your kid does not need to go to college at all.
00:47:57.000We do need more entrepreneurs and plumbers, electricians and welders.
00:48:02.000And I will lovingly challenge some of you.
00:48:04.000If some of you are in what would be considered upper middle class society, there is a sense of shame that some parents feel that if your kid becomes a plumber, that you are a failure as a parent.
00:48:51.000They would rather have the risk of their son becoming a girl than their son having to work construction.
00:49:00.000And what's scary is some of these guys who have upper middle class jobs could have their jobs replaced by AI at some point in the next 10 years.
00:49:09.000And then they might be thinking, I wish I had learned a trade that I, where it requires working with your hands.
00:49:14.000Yeah, the most, the most important, we have education largely wrong in this country.
00:49:17.000I think we way overemphasize job preparation.
00:49:20.000That's important, but actually still plays into the left's game.
00:49:23.000The true spirit of education, which has just vanished and it is so hard to find, Hillsdale College is like the only place that does it, is that you should try to create good people.
00:49:34.000And that's what liberal arts used to be.
00:49:36.000And that's not anymore, which is we're going to study really beautiful things and we're going to ask the most profound questions.
00:49:43.000You know, when I was at the University of Arizona talking the other day and we were having dialogue with the students, the amount of very basic questions that used to be widespread at the university, they've never heard.
00:49:54.000And I just asked very, are human beings naturally good or naturally not so good?
00:50:28.000If it confirms common sense, I believe the study.
00:50:31.000If it doesn't confirm common sense, I think the study's wrong.
00:50:36.000And I know that, I know you might, but think about it.
00:50:40.000I sometimes talk to these kids and they short circuit if they can't have an argument that isn't supported by some sort of scientific consensus.
00:50:49.000What if I told you the most important things in the world are things that you must nurture and pursue and think deeply about?
00:51:01.000I know some of you probably have kids in a classical school where you study Aristotle, Socrates, and Plato and Aquinas and Augustine and the early church fathers.
00:51:08.000And you ask the deep questions that quite honestly built our civilization.
00:51:12.000And the final point I'll make is this, is that every founding father was educated like this.
00:51:16.000Why don't we still educate our kids now?
00:52:18.000While he's getting set, let me ask you one more question while they're getting set.
00:52:22.000As you look across the culture and stuff right now, what are you excited about?
00:52:27.000Even maybe, I know you don't want to talk too much political stuff, but is there anything even politically that you're like excited about right now?
00:52:33.000Yeah, I am excited about the deepening and the strengthening of the remnant.
00:52:52.000I have no idea if we're going to win anytime, but regardless of how hard they go after our value system, I know for a fact that there will be a core remnant of believers and patriots that will keep the faith and do the good and beautiful things so that tomorrow can be better.
00:53:08.000That's what the fighting spirit in the remnant is greater than I've ever seen.
00:53:59.000And I just feel like I'm less than a man because I feel so much pressure from my wife to get a part-time job to do other things that I can do to provide for the family.
00:54:15.000And I try to do as much as I can around the house.
00:54:17.000But as you can see, I'm limited to what I can do.
00:55:01.000And it's something for you to be proud of.
00:55:02.000And it is no way tied to the amount of money that you make on a regular basis.
00:55:07.000Although you might not be able to earn more money than her, I would say to you, you can still be the leader of your family in every other area, which is just as important.
00:55:16.000You can be the spiritual head of your household and lead your family in the ways of the Lord.
00:55:20.000You can be the emotional leader of your household, providing peace and strength and stability to your family.
00:55:26.000So do not let your self-worth be tied to a paycheck.
00:55:51.000So I was down in Tucson about two weeks ago at the Federated Republican Women's Biennial Meeting.
00:55:58.000And I was talking to one of the state senators from there, Justine Watsack, about ASU, specifically you talking about ASU.
00:56:08.000They have insane liberal teachings, of course.
00:56:13.000And I saw the pro-Palestine protest back there a few weeks ago after Hamas came in and attacked people.
00:56:23.000So my question, I guess, is: if we're not able to regain control of these once great American institutions, would you find it acceptable?
00:56:36.000And I guess I asked her the same thing, would you find it acceptable to write them out of the state budget, ASU specifically, write them out of the state budget or I guess somehow kind of shut them down in a way so that they are not able to corrupt young minds?
00:57:00.000So they should be, it won't happen, but ASU, U of A, NAU, they should be completely defunded by the taxpayers of Arizona.
00:57:08.000They should have to support themselves and they should have to raise their own money, figure it out, charge tuition, support themselves no different than Grand Canyon has to support themselves.
00:57:17.000So if they're so great, then figure it out.
00:57:20.000Now, you might say, but you know, Charlie, where are we supposed to, you know, send our kids?
00:57:25.000Imagine what you could do with the money that we're spending at ASU and U of A and N AU in not just tax rebates, you can get rid of the income tax here in Arizona.
00:58:11.000I'm a student at GCU, and I'm just a kid who wants that paper from college.
00:58:17.000So, what's your advice to someone who's your age, whenever you start a turning point to give my fellow college students the gift of truth, both in Jesus and politically?
00:59:11.000I meet a lot of people in church, and I'd say it's about 50-50.
00:59:14.000We have a moral obligation to live out the joy of Christ every single day.
00:59:19.000That is our great, the greatest act of evangelism is being happy and joyful in a broken world and being unafraid to speak the truth, especially when it comes to political matters.
00:59:32.000Because at GCU, it's a predominantly Christian school, and people will be more Christian than not, but they might want to stay around from the political stuff.
00:59:39.000And that's where you should ask the questions and try to get them to believe what the Bible says about these things.
00:59:55.000My wife would get everything to be here right now.
00:59:58.000But I did want to ask: I grew up in a family that showed no sense of discipline or sacrifice or they say Christian values, but there's no fruit of that.
01:00:11.000And unfortunately, at times I find myself falling into that same boat trying to start my family.
01:00:16.000My wife and I have been married for three years, going on four now.
01:00:20.000But how do I nurture and develop a Christian discipline and a sense of boldness in my family when I've never really had that example?
01:00:35.000So, first and foremost, you need to find two or if you're a member of this church, you're actively involved, find two or three men here that are at least 20 years your senior that you think have their act together and have them constantly be giving you mentorship.
01:00:50.000Male mentors changed my life, some that are still living and some that have passed away, where I saw how they acted, I saw how they had their life together, and it totally changed my life to this day.
01:01:01.000So, you have to have, you are the moving average of the five people you spend the most time with, right?
01:01:32.000However, you don't have to spend every day with them, right?
01:01:35.000So, you must be very careful of the influences and the things you bring into your life.
01:01:40.000And then, the thing they'll say for you is, and this works a lot better with men than women, is you need to challenge yourself.
01:01:46.000And this is where there's there will be a podcaster and maybe a series of books that really push you, but you're not the best version of yourself that you could be.
01:01:58.000And that is a that is a language pattern that resonates with us even better than women.
01:02:03.000And so, you need to kind of go on that Genesis 12 journey, whatever that might be.
01:02:06.000It might be physical fitness, it might be, you know, doing waking up at 4 a.m., you know, that crazy Jocko Woolnick thing.
01:02:13.000That stuff is awesome for men and it works.
01:02:17.000Setting otherwise like outsider arbitrary limits for yourself as men is unbelievably effective for us because you as men need a destination.
01:02:28.000There's a reason why in Peter Pan, they're called the lost boys.
01:03:27.000And don't set unrealistic goals for yourself.
01:03:31.000But then, at times, you need to look at your how am I challenged myself physically, mentally, spiritually, and then even emotionally.
01:03:38.000And so, it can be doing something as goofy as I'm not going to eat for three days, I'm going to do cold showers, I'm going to, you know, do what they call a hard 45, whatever that thing is, right?
01:03:48.000Work out inside, outside, read for at least 20 minutes a day.
01:03:51.000We, as men, thrive on this sort of stuff, and it's lacking, right?
01:03:56.000So, that's where you can literally rewire yourself.
01:04:16.000Neuroscience for the last 100 years used to say that verse is wrong.
01:04:21.000They used to say your brain can't change once you're over the age of 15.
01:04:26.000Now, neuroscience says, Oh, just kidding, your brain is always changing, and you can teach an old dog new tricks.
01:04:32.000In fact, it's changing so much that it actually changes more over the age of 30 than under the age of 30.
01:04:38.000Do not conform to the ways of this world, be transformed by the root of your mind.
01:04:41.000And it's actually proven by one study: English cab drivers.
01:04:45.000So, they decided to go, this is hilarious, right?
01:04:47.000So, they decided to go do a bunch of neuroscience scans of English cab drivers, and they found that the hippocampus, which is responsible for navigational direction memory recall, was almost two times bigger and more active in a London cab driver than it was just for a regular person.
01:05:05.000And so, if that was true, that either meant that every single one of them were destined to be cab drivers from a young age, and they had an outsized hippocampus from birth, or that something they were doing was actively changing their brain.
01:05:18.000And so, if any of you have been to London, it's the worst organized city in the history of the planet, right?
01:05:23.000It's like to become a London cab driver, you have to pass a test called the knowledge.
01:05:54.000And I just got to re-emphasize this to anybody who came from a family where there was sin or destruction or hurt or pain.
01:06:02.000You can be the person who changes your family tree in future generations if you put your faith in Jesus Christ and devote yourself to following Him.
01:06:10.000And I just want to brag on just the fruit of Christianity.
01:06:15.000You know, we talk about the truth a lot.
01:06:17.000How awesome is it that our value system is so different than Hindu caste system belief?
01:06:22.000So, if you, if you came up here and I was a Hindu caste system person, I'd say, sorry, your parents are crummy, you're probably crummy, nothing you can do about it.
01:06:29.000Our belief is, no, you could you could break free of that and live a beautiful life for the kingdom, regardless of what you were born into.
01:06:39.000Hey, Charlie, I loved your feedback on finding mentors and fasting.
01:06:45.000But we got generations here, and I know we got entrepreneurs that would probably love to hear, like, what part did prayer play in starting your business 11 years ago?
01:06:56.000And for the business owners, how do you And bring God from the top down in your organization.
01:08:03.000And then, as far as running a company, 450 employees, you know, starting something from nothing, you know, having to raise, I don't know, $85, $90 million a year, which it's not easy, a big challenge.
01:08:15.000So look, God is the center of everything that I do, trying to live out the gospel with truth and mercy, compassion.
01:08:23.000But also, the best advice I could give is have one or two, preferably one page of standards for your executives, yourself, and your company.
01:08:36.000And if you are the leader, you better not just live by those standards.
01:08:43.000And from my experience, that is one of the best ways to have a healthy company.
01:08:47.000So if the standard is to work hard, I'm not saying that I work harder than every single person at Turning Point USA, but I put in the hours.
01:09:08.000And so you try to practice what you preach type thing.
01:09:10.000But yeah, the final thing I'll say is leadership can be best summarized as judging, as reading people correctly and organizing them effectively.
01:09:19.000And so reading people is the key to being a good leader.
01:09:23.000Knowing the different character types and organizing them.
01:09:38.000But to get straight to the point, I'm a younger person.
01:09:41.000And so with this generation that I live in now with a lot of association, a lot of friends, it's crazy seeing how we try to be a person of being a man of the book or being traditional values.
01:09:52.000It's having it looked down upon so much by everybody.
01:09:55.000And it's hard to be able to teach those values.
01:09:57.000And they feel like it's because of my age that I'm not able to actually pass it along or not have that absolute 100% knowledge to defend it.
01:10:05.000And so how would I be able to make an impact in that kind of way by still being a younger person, but also wanting to make a change, not in my life, but to help guide people when it comes to, I like inviting them to church, but like what kind of stuff would you recommend for somebody of a younger age in the younger traditions to try to keep those things alive and try to keep them still impactful and meaningful in ways that it can help other people?
01:10:40.000And so you just, your age is never a limiting factor to your impact, right?
01:10:45.000And I'm glad I had mentors that got that out of me because I used to believe that, right?
01:10:49.000In fact, it's your greatest advantage.
01:10:50.000Believe it or not, being young can get you into rooms that a 35 or 40 year old would not.
01:10:56.000Anyone that runs a business here knows there's a soft spot for a 16, 17, eight-year-old that might want to intern, get advice, get 20 minutes of your time.
01:11:02.000You are more than willing sometimes to accommodate an 18-year-old that didn't go to college, that looks hungry and has hustle and has willingness more so than a 40-year-old.
01:11:11.000You're like, oh boy, you know, what am I doing here?
01:11:14.000So your age is actually an advantage, not an impediment.
01:11:38.000Final thing, I guess I'll say is that, yeah, it's looked down upon, but it's increasingly not so.
01:11:42.000There's a thirst and an appetite for the truth right now.
01:11:44.000Look, I know that in most social society that's filled with hedonism and degeneracy and hookup culture, that it might be hard to live by the book.
01:11:56.000And one of the things we don't tell young people is that pleasure comes with a price, and immediate pleasure comes with a heavy price that is not felt immediately, right?
01:12:19.000And so what I'm getting at, though, is that if you are someone that abides by the truth with grace, you're not legalistic about it, you're not self-righteous about it, but you have love and compassion, but standards that you will not negotiate with, that will attract people like a magnet.
01:13:17.000And I can just say, like, I became a pastor pretty young, and some of my greatest encouragement came from older saints who were just so excited to see young people doing something that was honoring to God.
01:13:28.000We're going to go to a question that was texted in.
01:13:43.000So I want to preface this by saying I'm not giving advice.
01:13:46.000What I'm going to say is going to sound like advice because it will be very plainly and bluntly spoken, but I am not one to parachute in and say you should do something abrupt while you have to pay for a mortgage and provide for kids.
01:14:05.000I personally would not be able to work for a company that was against my values.
01:14:11.000And again, with the proper preface, I will say this.
01:14:15.000I have seen more discord at home in marriages and with kids eventually as an overflow of an unhappy work life than I think we ever talk about.
01:14:31.000If you are tormented at work, home won't necessarily be a great spot either.
01:14:38.000As a leader of the home, you're coming home and you had a bad day because you had to listen to Sally Sumerie, who's obviously a dude in a purple hair wig, you know, tell you that you're using the wrong, you know, and then you're being told you're a racist by this guy.
01:14:54.000So my question for, you know, is if you are able to financially figure it out, you should probably find a company that is in alignment with your values.
01:15:07.000And unless, unless you are finding fulfillment in looking at yourself as working for a woke company as a rescue mission to help people that are currently under that captivity, and I'll be very honest, that is very rare.
01:15:56.000The breakthrough, the peace, the shalom that I see in my emails of people that leave bad companies and go to righteous ones is hard to even put into words.
01:16:08.000The people that have left in bold acts of faith and courage away from woke companies to ones that share their worldview, they say, thank God I trusted you enough to go without a salary for a month to go find a job that didn't make me have to wear a mask, get the vax, and use pronouns that are fake.
01:16:54.000So if you're willing to lie in order to, quote, provide for your family, then you are compromising something that is very serious to God.
01:17:03.000And really what you need to do is probably take a step of trust in God, quit that job and trust him to provide one for you where you don't have to break one of the 10 commandments in order to work there.
01:17:17.000Hey, Charlie, as someone dating one of your employees and been following you since before you started Turning Point, it's really awesome to see you here tonight.
01:17:59.000So I just wanted to give you a chance to kind of talk about that a little bit, but just to hear you talk about it again, because you say it much better than I just did.
01:18:12.000Yeah, so I, I mean, I speak to a lot of young people and it's the most depressed, most suicidal, most alcohol-addicted, and most drug-addicted generation in history.
01:19:04.000It creates neurotic women that are very, very hard to heal.
01:19:08.000Literally, no further than the, there's spiritual aspects to this, but women bind and bond literally neurochemically with a man after they have sex with them.
01:19:19.000So if they have like 30 or 40 sexual partners, they're in like 40 different directions of like irreconciled emotional attachments that men tend to not have that issue as much.
01:19:39.000If you wanted to make the bumper sticker of the country you live in and your kids are being raised in, is the easy thing is making you miserable.
01:19:47.000The cell phone is making you miserable.
01:19:50.000Hulu and Netflix is making you miserable.
01:19:59.000Watching porn is making you miserable.
01:20:01.000And one of the things that we are commanded to do, get married and have kids, is very hard.
01:20:07.000But not only is it awesome, it is necessary, fulfilling, and it's not talked about in positive terms to a lot of young people.
01:20:18.000They look at it as an impediment and a burden and maybe something that they'll attach onto their lifestyle later on as a temporary thing and get divorced if it doesn't work out.
01:20:28.000And what a time for us as Christians and believers and men to lean in and talk about this eternal covenant that God gives us that we ought to do, not just that we get to do.
01:20:42.000I mean, we need to have way more kids in this civilization.
01:20:44.000You know, some of you guys might say, I'm tapped out.
01:20:46.000No, no, no, have another couple of kids, right?
01:20:48.000We are on the verge of a population collapse right now.
01:20:52.000We are having less kids than ever before.
01:20:54.000They're looked at as a burden, as a nuisance, and as something that is not, you know, platformed or something, not as something that is elevated.
01:21:03.000And yeah, the final thing I'll say is that, you know, we don't have to overthink this.
01:21:07.000You know, we act as if because we have the fruits of modernity, you know, Wi-Fi, Twitter, cross-country flights, that we have to kind of like redesign society.
01:21:17.000It turns out that the simple things that have been true for thousands of years in the scriptures are actually the things that are right in front of us that we're denying.
01:21:27.000And I will say that, you know, with young men, there's a serious crisis and there's the lost boys and all that.
01:21:31.000But for those of you that with daughters, I really hope you communicate to them that not only is it okay, but they probably should get married earlier than later.
01:21:44.000And one of these saddest realities is we have more single young women in their 30s than married single young women in their 30s.
01:21:51.000And the lurch leftward in the American urban areas, especially here in Phoenix, are 30-something year-old women with college degrees and cats.
01:22:00.000And, you know, they have, you know, they watch Emily in Paris and they have a degree from USC and they drink a lot of Chardonnay and benzodiazepins.
01:23:10.000But anyway, not to belabor the point is that for young women, that's a terrible role model, right?
01:23:16.000It's a terrible role model to have a 33, soon to be 34-year-old pop star who's worth billions of dollars, who, you know, who has like gratuitous premarital sex and is, you know, debate, you know, dating a vaccine shield who calls himself an NFL football player, you know, that, you know, that's a platform for young women.
01:23:33.000Like, actually, no, like maybe you should get married in your early 20s and have lots of children because that's what you biologically really want to do.
01:23:39.000And you want a culture that gives you permission to do the thing that the Bible tells you to do.
01:23:42.000So that's a long-winded response to if we actually just told people to get married at a younger age, we'd have a much better society.
01:23:55.000It's, I mean, getting married is what God made you to do.
01:23:58.000And if you care about conservative values, people who get married and have kids develop conservative values because they realize, oh, wait, the way the world actually is matters more than ideas that abstractions.
01:24:25.000So, number one, there's never a good time to start a business.
01:24:28.000So, climate is a bad, bad excuse not to start a business.
01:24:31.000So, I guess I'm an entrepreneur and so I give advice to entrepreneurs every so often, you know, because we build something from nothing.
01:24:40.000And if I use environment or climate as a reason to start or not start turning point USA, it never would have happened.
01:24:46.000I think there's been like three years where people said the economy wasn't risky or uncertain, right?
01:24:51.000So, if you want to start a business, that's a bad reason not to do it.
01:24:54.000But, but you have to know your own financial situation.
01:24:56.000Look, here's the thing: you start a business from nothing, you're probably not going to earn any money for the first two years unless you have an angel investor and you carve a salary for yourself from the beginning, okay?
01:25:05.000Or you have a ridiculously generous bank that's not going to come out right now and allow you to carve money out for yourself to pay yourself for a startup business.
01:25:12.000Number two, though, is if you're not willing to bet on yourself and you're even asking the question, then it's probably not a good idea for you to start that business.
01:25:22.000So, being an entrepreneur is basically betting on yourself, right?
01:25:25.000I believe that I will be able to outwork the competition and solve a problem.
01:25:29.000An entrepreneur is very simple: I find a problem and I want to solve it, and I want to charge people because I can solve the problem better than somebody else.
01:25:34.000That's what an entrepreneur is, right?
01:25:36.000So, you find a problem that people have.
01:25:38.000For example, you know, the Uber guy, you know, okay, wow, tax is too expensive.
01:25:42.000What if we democratize this at an app and we could charge people to do it?
01:25:47.000But, yeah, look, and then final, finally, I just want to make sure that everyone that knows this, if you have four kids and then you want to start a business, there will be a cost.
01:25:57.000And you will spend, if you want to really be a hard driver, that will mean less time with your kids.
01:26:15.000And you might be okay with that, but I just want to make sure that everyone understands that it is seemingly from the outside glamorous to start a business from nothing.
01:26:25.000But there's nothing quite like an 11-year overnight success story, right?
01:26:30.000Where you have to pain and labor and fire people, hire people.
01:26:34.000You know, I've done 285 red-eye flights, not fun, right?
01:26:41.000Where you're just destroyed the next day and you have to give speeches and all that sort of stuff.
01:26:44.000So, if you're willing to do that, great.
01:27:16.000And I want to just take a minute to address you guys who might have come tonight because you love Charlie and we love you, Charlie.
01:27:23.000Honestly, we're really thankful for you.
01:27:24.000Sorry if I was too direct, but I mean, I'm not really sorry, but I mean.
01:27:33.000But I do just want to take a moment to do, because I know we probably have some guys that might have come out tonight because you're a fan of Charlie's and you love the conservative values that he stands for.
01:27:42.000But I do want to speak to those of you who aren't yet followers of Jesus that he's fighting for, the truth that he's pushing, the justice that he's seeking.
01:27:50.000Those are all things that are ultimately rooted in Jesus Christ, who is the way, the truth, and the life.
01:28:01.000So I just want to take a minute to do this.
01:28:03.000I'm going to ask everybody just to bow their heads for a minute in the moment of prayer.
01:28:07.000And if you're not yet a follower of Jesus, but in this moment, you say, hey, there's so much crazy stuff going on in the world.
01:28:14.000You need to know that you'll never have peace or any sense of purpose or direction until you choose to follow Christ and surrender your life to him.
01:28:23.000He is the one who died on the cross to pay the price for your sins so that you could be forgiven and live guilt-free.
01:28:29.000He's the one who conquered death by rising again, proving he is the Son of God.
01:28:34.000And he offers you a simple invitation.
01:28:36.000He said, if you'll put your trust in me to save you, if you'll honor me as your Lord, and if you'll follow me to the best of your ability, I will save you from sin.
01:28:46.000I'll adopt you into the family of God, and I'll give you the gift of eternal life.
01:28:50.000And for someone here right now, this could be your moment.
01:28:52.000Maybe you're watching online and you'd say, that's me.