The Charlie Kirk Show - How to be a Conservative Dissident

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00:00:05.000 In this free-flowing conversation that I had in the villages, Florida, I present a new argument.

00:00:11.000 What is the left good at and what is the left bad at?

00:00:14.000 And the case for being a conservative dissident.

00:00:18.000 We are an enemy-occupied territory, and we have to launch a metaphorical sabotage campaign against the left.

00:00:23.000 It's time for us to think that way.

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00:01:18.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:01:19.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.

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00:01:29.000 He's an incredible guy.

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00:01:54.000 What a great group.

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00:01:56.000 This is, I actually haven't given a speech in about two weeks.

00:02:01.000 I've been very preoccupied on things that actually matter.

00:02:05.000 Not that this doesn't matter, but what matters, what I've been doing the last couple of weeks matters more.

00:02:10.000 I got married 10 days ago, and this is very exciting.

00:02:14.000 My wife is, where is she around the corner?

00:02:16.000 Oh, she's right here. 1.00

00:02:17.000 Stand up, Erica.

00:02:19.000 So, so it's been a very interesting 10 days.

00:02:28.000 So I did something which is very unusual, which is the day I got married, I turned off my phone.

00:02:36.000 I handed it to Will, and I said, I'll see my phone in 10 days.

00:02:40.000 And no phone for totally disconnected from the world.

00:02:42.000 And I have to tell you, as everyone's taking pictures at this moment with your phone, these phones are destroying our humanity.

00:02:48.000 I have a whole, no, they really are.

00:02:50.000 And I usually get to that later in the speech after that.

00:02:53.000 But the more the first couple of days when you don't have your digital pacifier, it's kind of a shock to the system, right?

00:03:03.000 But then you start to realize that there's a whole world outside of this kind of digital cyborg simulation.

00:03:09.000 And then I felt like I was back in the 1990s.

00:03:12.000 Well, not really, because then people were wearing masks outside.

00:03:16.000 The whole thing was weird.

00:03:17.000 But that's actually what's so nice about being here in the villages.

00:03:20.000 Everyone's like a human being.

00:03:27.000 And so I did a lot of thinking.

00:03:30.000 I did a lot of writing and a lot of reading over the last 10 or 12 days.

00:03:34.000 And I'm more convinced than ever that what we're really living through right now is a controlled simulation from people that are in charge that want us to talk about the same things over and over again without actually ever reaching any sort of consensus or agreement of what's actually good for our country.

00:03:51.000 And I mean both parties, by the way. 0.91

00:03:54.000 I've become more and more convinced the Republican Party is basically useless. 0.99

00:03:59.000 Now, not totally useless, but basically useless. 0.99

00:04:03.000 If you're going to be an opposition party, then be an opposition party. 0.97

00:04:09.000 Don't just be Democrat-like.

00:04:12.000 We know what the Democrats want.

00:04:13.000 We know what they stand for.

00:04:14.000 We know their worldview.

00:04:16.000 And there's 75 million or more of us, we don't know the actual number, that believe that America is more than just a colony to make a bunch of money or a place where you can temporarily come and swoop in and swoop out.

00:04:30.000 This is our home.

00:04:31.000 This is a place where veterans have given everything and people have built their lives over many generations.

00:04:39.000 And what I think the Republican Party is failing to recognize and realize is that we're running out of time quicker than I think most would ever recognize.

00:04:49.000 And this is not just recognize and realize, but we're on borrowed time.

00:04:53.000 And you all understand this.

00:04:55.000 And Donald Trump understood this, which is why he advocated for such bold and decisive and dramatic action.

00:05:01.000 And if only he had a party around him that would have supported him completely, right?

00:05:05.000 That would have been nice.

00:05:07.000 And so there's a lot of different things I want to talk about and I want to go to.

00:05:13.000 The first is this, and this is an unusual thing for some of you to have to admit.

00:05:16.000 You have to admit that we're basically in occupied territory.

00:05:22.000 Now, this is a thing for a lot of you, it's going to be a hard thing for you to admit.

00:05:28.000 But the 1980s, this is not the case.

00:05:30.000 The 1990s is not the case.

00:05:32.000 But they control basically everything.

00:05:35.000 And we let them.

00:05:37.000 We did.

00:05:38.000 And they control the schools. 1.00

00:05:40.000 They control the corporations.

00:05:41.000 They control the multimedia.

00:05:43.000 They control the tech companies.

00:05:44.000 They control almost everything.

00:05:46.000 And so we have to think of what we're going to do now as a dissident as if we were in East Germany. 0.57

00:05:52.000 Now, that might be too extreme language for some people, but that's basically where we're at.

00:05:58.000 And people say, well, Charlie, they're not throwing us in camps and all of that.

00:06:01.000 I said, yeah, okay, fine.

00:06:05.000 See, I like these people.

00:06:06.000 They're very smart.

00:06:07.000 Very wise.

00:06:09.000 And so we know how totalitarianism acts.

00:06:12.000 We know that there's a rhythm to this, right?

00:06:15.000 We know that there's a pattern.

00:06:17.000 We know that power is not a means for these people.

00:06:22.000 It is an end.

00:06:24.000 It's power for power's sake.

00:06:26.000 It's not that they want power to go effectuate some change.

00:06:30.000 No one ever stages themselves into a dictatorship to then give up power.

00:06:34.000 That's not the way it works.

00:06:36.000 And so we have to think of ourselves as a dissident.

00:06:39.000 What does that mean?

00:06:41.000 Well, that means that you are now, in some ways, having to retake the nation you were raised in.

00:06:48.000 Now, this is a hard thing for some conservatives to admit because some conservatives say, no, no, we're still the majority.

00:06:55.000 The country's a center-right country.

00:06:59.000 Okay, we have one channel.

00:07:01.000 We have a pillow company and, you know, and like a couple colleges.

00:07:10.000 Pastors are weak need nowadays.

00:07:14.000 We can't fly in an airline without having to be proselytized by their social justice propaganda.

00:07:19.000 You send your child to any college here in the state of Florida that's funded by your tax dollars, and they will learn to hate the country unless they have some sort of pre-existing values.

00:07:28.000 We have some great students here from University of Central Florida, which is supposed to be a good school.

00:07:33.000 And we were just hearing about how he had to endure that indoctrination.

00:07:36.000 This is what we deal with every single day at Turning Point USA.

00:07:39.000 And so we have to think all of a sudden that now we're dissidents.

00:07:44.000 And when have successful dissident strategies worked?

00:07:47.000 Well, here's the tough truth.

00:07:49.000 They usually fail really terribly, actually.

00:07:55.000 And so the first wave of dissent is usually met with force.

00:07:58.000 Well, that's exactly what we're seeing right now.

00:08:01.000 And so the people in charge are executing what should be called as a top-down revolution.

00:08:06.000 This is one of the first revolutions ever where the most powerful people are obsessed with crushing the people that don't have any power.

00:08:12.000 I want you to think about that.

00:08:14.000 These are people that Jeff Bezos just bought a $500 million yacht, right?

00:08:19.000 Pretty wealthy guy.

00:08:20.000 And so, but he's obsessed with using his power and his wealth to crush you.

00:08:25.000 What bothers him more than anything else is the lovely lady in the back wearing the MAGA hat.

00:08:32.000 That's an obsession for them.

00:08:34.000 They are not happy.

00:08:35.000 They'll never be happy until all opposition voices are crushed.

00:08:40.000 But they're executing a preemptive strike.

00:08:42.000 And we know this, right?

00:08:43.000 It seems as if they're striking first because they're afraid that we're going to actually be able to be successful.

00:08:49.000 And so, and this is exactly why it seems as if some of you are feeling like, why do I feel like I'm metaphorically living through a blitzkrieg?

00:08:59.000 Right?

00:09:00.000 Like the last couple, I turn around and another person had their apartment raided.

00:09:04.000 I turn around and all of a sudden Delta Airlines is acting like a Democrat super PAC, right?

00:09:09.000 I turn around and our children are learning critical race theory.

00:09:13.000 And the realization is basically this is not a political debate.

00:09:20.000 It's not a coffee shop discussion.

00:09:24.000 This is not the typical politics that a lot of you grew up with.

00:09:27.000 They're playing for keeps this time.

00:09:29.000 And they're going for something more fundamental than just winning the debate.

00:09:33.000 And so a lot of conservatives, I think you all recognize this and understand this, but your leaders do not.

00:09:38.000 Now, your wonderful governor here in this state totally understands it.

00:09:41.000 You get that.

00:09:47.000 Now, because we're going to get to what to do about it.

00:09:50.000 I'm not like, I'm going to tell you what I'm not.

00:09:52.000 Two things that I'm not. 0.65

00:09:53.000 I'm not a doom and gloom guy, and I'm not a hopium dealer, okay?

00:09:58.000 Can't stand hopium.

00:09:59.000 It drives me nuts.

00:10:00.000 The amount of misinformation that some of you have been fed by people that should be immoral.

00:10:06.000 There's nothing that ever happened in Italy, okay?

00:10:09.000 Mike Pence never went to Gitmo.

00:10:11.000 Like the stuff that I got emailed to me was like unbelievable.

00:10:15.000 And I think it actually created a paralysis, the conservative movement, that made us less likely to act because we thought there was some master plan.

00:10:22.000 There was no plan, okay?

00:10:24.000 There was no special plan or communication thing.

00:10:27.000 All the message boards were a lie.

00:10:29.000 And I think it was actually designed to make us less likely to make phone calls and knock on doors.

00:10:33.000 I think it was designed to make us think that there was some sort of architecture behind this whole thing, some sort of spiritual energy that would kind of, and I'm a very Christian person, but we were vesting our hopes in some sort of supernatural intervention, not our own activism.

00:10:49.000 And I'm not a hopium dealer.

00:10:50.000 I'm not doom and gloom.

00:10:51.000 I'm a person that deals in reality and reasonable thinking, and I'm also a person of faith, and we'll get to that.

00:10:58.000 So when we look at effective strategies to actually reclaim what should be our own country, we have to think to ourselves, what are they doing really well?

00:11:11.000 And then what are the current Occupy forces' vulnerabilities?

00:11:15.000 So let's just, and by the way, I'm sure some media person is recording this.

00:11:18.000 Everything I'm talking about is metaphors.

00:11:21.000 So when I say sabotage, I mean a metaphorical sabotage.

00:11:24.000 Okay, just so we're clear.

00:11:25.000 Just all right, because these people is not, you know, so how would we, those people that want to live in America that respects our constitutional rights, that believe that God is sovereign, not government is sovereign, that believes that we are a country, not a colony, that wants to be able to control who comes into our country, that wants stuff made in America, not in Wuhan China, that actually wants to value middle-class work, not just Wall Street's profits, that believes that the church is essential and never should be locked down again.

00:11:54.000 How do we reclaim that country?

00:11:57.000 Well, first, let's see what the left is doing well.

00:11:59.000 First, number one, they don't stop.

00:12:03.000 They don't golf.

00:12:05.000 They don't.

00:12:06.000 They don't have leisure.

00:12:08.000 They're obsessive about, they're pathological.

00:12:11.000 They are.

00:12:12.000 This is their day-to-day mission.

00:12:15.000 Now, some people, and the number one reason that I hear, and I do a lot of these speeches, they say, Charlie, it's hard for me to believe that these people are this Machiavellian.

00:12:23.000 Machiavelli, of course, wrote The Prince, and it's an idea that power is the ultimate pursuit of all human activity.

00:12:30.000 The ends justify the means is the ultimate phrase from the prince that we get.

00:12:36.000 The answer is yes, and then some.

00:12:39.000 So, however sinister or cynical you are towards the motives of the other side, play into all of those.

00:12:45.000 These are not good people, okay?

00:12:48.000 And the big lie that we are taught, which keeps you from acting the way you should act, is this lie.

00:12:55.000 That we all want the same thing, we just have different ways of getting there.

00:12:59.000 How many of you heard this?

00:13:00.000 Your children are being taught this, though.

00:13:03.000 Except when it comes to conservatives, right?

00:13:05.000 They're taught that conservatives want everyone in camps, and they want everyone handcuffed, and they want everyone to be unhappy always.

00:13:13.000 Let me be very clear.

00:13:15.000 We don't want the same thing as the Democrats or the left. 1.00

00:13:18.000 They want men in women's restrooms. 1.00

00:13:21.000 They want women's sports to be abolished. 0.90

00:13:24.000 They want the church to be eliminated. 0.94

00:13:26.000 They don't believe in private property.

00:13:27.000 They don't believe in markets. 1.00

00:13:28.000 They want another 100 million Central Americans to come into our country. 1.00

00:13:33.000 We don't want the same things that they want. 1.00

00:13:35.000 So as soon as it's actually a very freeing thing, because then we have clarity and we don't have fake agreement.

00:13:44.000 I would rather be very clear about where we disagree at the left rather than this mushy middle ground where I can't, if I have another politician that comes and asks for a vote, they always ask to come on our podcast, and some of them do a good job, and we'll talk about some of them.

00:13:57.000 But most of them say, you know, I really believe that we have more in common in D.C. than if I have to hear that again. 0.99

00:14:03.000 I say, wait, the only thing you guys can agree on is awful trade deals, stupid endless wars, and bringing in millions of people into our country to destroy any sort of meaningful immigration into our country. 0.95

00:14:15.000 Like, that's the only thing you guys can agree on. 0.99

00:14:19.000 And so they're pathological in nature.

00:14:23.000 They are.

00:14:23.000 They don't stop.

00:14:24.000 Number two, they define the terms of the debate really well.

00:14:24.000 They're good at that.

00:14:30.000 They put you on defense all the time.

00:14:34.000 Now, this is why.

00:14:35.000 It's because our nature is to be peace-loving, peace-brokering people.

00:14:40.000 A lot of you have probably run and started businesses before.

00:14:44.000 You would not have been able to run and start and grow a business as an activist.

00:14:48.000 I want you to think about this, though.

00:14:49.000 If you were running a local restaurant and your whole mission was to try to divide the community around a certain issue, that would not be good for business.

00:14:58.000 You had to try to be agreeable.

00:14:59.000 If you try to bring your employees in every single day and said, okay, you go over here to a Republican, you over here a Democrat, you wouldn't be able to run a business that way.

00:15:07.000 So you try to find commonality and values for a assumed mission.

00:15:12.000 So it's in your nature.

00:15:13.000 Same when you build a family or run a church.

00:15:15.000 So our nature as conservatives is trying to find consensus.

00:15:19.000 Their nature is the exact opposite.

00:15:22.000 Their nature, by definition, is not to build, they haven't built anything in their life ever.

00:15:26.000 These people have built nothing.

00:15:28.000 They've only destroyed.

00:15:30.000 They take over everything. 1.00

00:15:30.000 They're parasites. 1.00

00:15:32.000 The Boy Scouts, destroyed. 1.00

00:15:33.000 Delta Airlines, destroyed.

00:15:34.000 Coca-Cola, destroyed.

00:15:36.000 Like every classical music, they've destroyed.

00:15:38.000 Math, they've destroyed.

00:15:39.000 Every major institution, they find something that works that was built by conservatives or Westerners, and they take it over with almost a parasitic attitude under these false promises of utopianism and diversity and tolerance and acceptance until all of a sudden it becomes unrecognizable institution.

00:15:56.000 And they prey on your worst impulses.

00:16:00.000 Because we want to be peace-loving people, and we should be.

00:16:04.000 But we should never sacrifice this false promise of peace.

00:16:07.000 and compromise truth.

00:16:08.000 Let me be very clear.

00:16:10.000 And so what we do is we say, you know what?

00:16:12.000 Maybe I should be more tolerant.

00:16:14.000 Maybe I should be more accepting.

00:16:16.000 And so then they said, aha, we're going to win.

00:16:19.000 Because then before you know it, they say, you're an awful person if you don't want some 55-year-old guy with a beard showering with your daughter.

00:16:28.000 Tolerance, right?

00:16:30.000 Because if you have tolerance and no truth, well, then who's to say what the guardrails are for society, right?

00:16:37.000 If all of a sudden you accept all things always with no bearing, with no compass, with no ability to be able to decipher good from evil, well, then we should just be accepting of those because diversity is our strength, isn't it?

00:16:48.000 That's what we're told.

00:16:50.000 Diversity can be a strength.

00:16:52.000 It could also be a weakness.

00:16:55.000 And I'll make an argument.

00:16:56.000 And this, again, this is like a political thought crime.

00:16:58.000 So like the thought police is going to come in when I say this.

00:17:00.000 It's exactly why I want to say it.

00:17:02.000 Could anyone run a sports team on diversity? 0.99

00:17:04.000 Not racial diversity.

00:17:05.000 I'm talking about diversity of opinion.

00:17:07.000 You could not run the Tampa Bay Buccaneers based on diversity of opinion.

00:17:11.000 It requires uniformity.

00:17:13.000 It requires precision.

00:17:15.000 It requires agreement, commonality.

00:17:17.000 If all of a sudden the receiver said, you know, Rob Gronkowski comes up, he's like, you know, I'm not going to do that.

00:17:23.000 I'm going to just run, you know, straight down the field.

00:17:26.000 He's like, no, no, we're not doing that.

00:17:28.000 Well, diversity is our strength, Tom Brady.

00:17:30.000 I'm sorry.

00:17:31.000 It'd be like you kicked off the team.

00:17:33.000 He's like, no, in order for that mission to be a successful enterprise, by definition, you need some sort of hierarchy and agreement and a common mission and goal.

00:17:41.000 Now, of course, some diversity, of course, can be a strength.

00:17:44.000 Ideological diversity at times is very healthy, especially when people are young.

00:17:48.000 Racial diversity, linguistic diversity.

00:17:51.000 But just to pathologically accept it.

00:17:52.000 Yes, all diversity all the time, no matter what, no matter what the mission we're trying to do is always good because it's my truth.

00:17:58.000 Well, then you have chaos. 1.00

00:18:00.000 It's almost as if they want that.

00:18:01.000 So they're really good at setting the terms of the debate.

00:18:03.000 And the third thing is this.

00:18:04.000 And there's a whole list of things I do well.

00:18:05.000 Then I get to things they don't do well.

00:18:08.000 Because we have to think of dissidents, right?

00:18:09.000 We have to have a plan of sabotage because I'm not just going to go here and tell you everything that's wrong.

00:18:13.000 We're going to launch a plan together of how we're going to do this.

00:18:16.000 Because we have to go over their vulnerabilities.

00:18:17.000 The last strength is this.

00:18:19.000 It kind of goes to the second one.

00:18:21.000 And this is how they were able to pull off the greatest scam, I think, in the last 100 years, which is the lockdowns because of the virus.

00:18:27.000 The virus is a very real thing.

00:18:29.000 The lockdowns, it was a total scam.

00:18:31.000 And we played along.

00:18:32.000 Here's why.

00:18:32.000 Let me tell you.

00:18:34.000 Yeah.

00:18:34.000 Thank you.

00:18:36.000 Here's why.

00:18:38.000 And I could go through the cost of the lockdowns from the suicides to the alcoholism.

00:18:42.000 You guys don't really feel it here because you have a wonderful governor.

00:18:45.000 You go to California.

00:18:48.000 And yeah, thank you.

00:18:49.000 And they have worst statistics on every single imaginable point of calculation versus Florida.

00:18:58.000 And they still have not fully opened.

00:19:00.000 Just so we're clear.

00:19:01.000 And you guys opened in May of last year.

00:19:03.000 But here's the thing that they're really good at.

00:19:06.000 And this is right out of Solinsky's Rules for Radicals. 0.54

00:19:09.000 And they have perfected it.

00:19:10.000 So just so if you don't know Solinsky's Rules for Radicals, I'm sure you've had speakers come through and talk to you about it.

00:19:15.000 I happen to know it very well because I'm not just a podcaster and a radio show host.

00:19:21.000 I do those things passionately.

00:19:23.000 We at Turning Point USA are actually on the front lines doing this.

00:19:26.000 We're organizing high school and college groups.

00:19:29.000 We're actually doing the work every single day, right?

00:19:31.000 So we're experiencing this.

00:19:32.000 So let me tell you that.

00:19:35.000 Thank you.

00:19:38.000 I think rule number eight, rule number four is keep the pressure on.

00:19:40.000 That's the one that we talked about.

00:19:42.000 But this is the one that we have to take very seriously.

00:19:45.000 They use your value system against you.

00:19:49.000 So I want you to think about how were they able to persuade us to lock down the country?

00:19:54.000 It's not about you, it's about your grandmother.

00:20:00.000 Right? 0.98

00:20:02.000 It's not, go get vaccinated, not because of you, but you might end up being a mass murderer.

00:20:10.000 Now, what are they really actually doing here?

00:20:14.000 Now, on the surface, now we're going to get into a little morality and philosophy because this is really how we just played into this.

00:20:20.000 On the surface, it's like, ah, they're playing on our best instincts.

00:20:23.000 They know that every person, no, they aren't.

00:20:26.000 They're playing on your guilt.

00:20:29.000 That's not playing.

00:20:30.000 They are playing on you having to live the rest of your life for maybe committing a mass murder in the villages.

00:20:38.000 Whatever.

00:20:39.000 Like whatever they're doing, like whatever they're trying to do.

00:20:41.000 The point is that they're trying to put you in a position to be controlled by one of the ultimate purposes of human control, which is guilt.

00:20:52.000 What is the whole BLM incorporated thing about? 0.78

00:20:54.000 White guilt. 0.77

00:20:55.000 What is the white liberal Nantucket redistribution, wealthy liberal thing?

00:21:00.000 Income guilt of money you didn't earn.

00:21:03.000 My favorite word in the English language is earn.

00:21:08.000 My favorite word.

00:21:11.000 So when you have a generation that has earned very little, a lot given to them, and there's some things that, quite honestly, they've been used and abused on.

00:21:21.000 I'll get into that.

00:21:22.000 Then all of a sudden, they're not playing on our best intentions.

00:21:25.000 They're playing on our guilt.

00:21:26.000 And we have a society that does not know how to deal with guilt.

00:21:31.000 We have a society that does not.

00:21:32.000 Now, this is where the hyper-secularization of a country comes in.

00:21:36.000 You see, we as Christians, we actually have a playbook on how to deal with guilt.

00:21:41.000 We know how to do that.

00:21:42.000 For example, if you wronged somebody individually, you go to that person.

00:21:45.000 It says very clearly in the scriptures to do that.

00:21:48.000 And you ask for forgiveness, and then you go to your creator.

00:21:51.000 And then you read the word and you pray for forgiveness, and it will be granted to you.

00:21:56.000 And then you are freed from the guilt of whatever you did.

00:21:59.000 If that is a genuine exercise, right?

00:22:01.000 Not just going through the motions.

00:22:03.000 But if all of a sudden you believe there's no God and the state is salvation, what wouldn't you do to alleviate yourself from walking around with the belief of having guilt?

00:22:13.000 We all know how big that feeling of guilt is.

00:22:16.000 It's dominating, isn't it?

00:22:18.000 You ever do something that you just wish you wouldn't have done?

00:22:21.000 And you just say to yourself, and we all had those moments in our life.

00:22:23.000 Of course we did.

00:22:24.000 I wish I would have.

00:22:26.000 I feel terrible.

00:22:27.000 I'll do anything to make this right.

00:22:30.000 So they use a society's inability to deal with guilt as a way to control you.

00:22:36.000 As a byproduct of how we've become more secular.

00:22:39.000 Our byproduct of not believing in a creator or a byproduct of feeling guilty if you have any form of success, which is the opposite of that.

00:22:46.000 That if you have money, you only got it because you were doing a Bonnie and Clyde routine.

00:22:52.000 If you have money, you only did it because you went around to banks and extorting people.

00:22:56.000 You didn't build a business.

00:22:57.000 You didn't wake up at 5 a.m.

00:22:58.000 You didn't go raise those six people.

00:23:00.000 No, no, no, no.

00:23:01.000 You did that only because you're a robber baron.

00:23:04.000 And unfortunately, some people still believe that.

00:23:09.000 Not just some people, a lot of people.

00:23:11.000 And so the left knows this.

00:23:14.000 So I really believe a lot of what we deal with right now.

00:23:17.000 And let me be very clear.

00:23:18.000 If you have done something wrong that is deserving of you to feel guilty, then that is a natural, in fact, a healthy feeling.

00:23:26.000 And I would argue that you have biblical exercises I mentioned to go through that will hopefully shape you and change you. 0.94

00:23:33.000 But if your mere existence, your skin color, all of a sudden makes you feel guilty, then you have been propagandized by people that wish to destroy the country. 0.90

00:23:45.000 You see, again, this is a level deeper that you won't always see this on television because everyone's just screaming at each other about absolutely nothing, right?

00:23:53.000 I just get so bored with just watching most of the kind of smear merchants on like MSNBC.

00:23:59.000 It's just awful.

00:24:01.000 This is really what's happening here: is that people are actually afraid of having to walk around with not saying, I made the independent decision to whatever, open my business or send my kid to school.

00:24:13.000 It's like, no, I'm not going to do something because I don't want to have to live with the consequence, even though your intentions might have been very, very good for doing whatever that might be.

00:24:21.000 Okay.

00:24:22.000 So the left does other things well.

00:24:24.000 They're very good in the arts.

00:24:26.000 They're very creative.

00:24:29.000 And they also, I mean, we all know the other things they're good at.

00:24:34.000 I mean, they're good at trying, not just good at trying, they're very, very effective at persuading people in positions that matter, whether it be teachers or priests or pastors, that their daily mission should be one of a social activist, right?

00:24:52.000 So they're very good at creating inventory troops.

00:24:54.000 What are their vulnerabilities?

00:24:54.000 Okay.

00:24:56.000 That's an interesting thing, right?

00:24:58.000 When was the last time you heard a speaker come up and say, here's what the left is bad at, and here's what we can do about it?

00:25:03.000 Because they're not good at everything.

00:25:05.000 So here's what we're bad at, okay?

00:25:08.000 We think, not you, it's the 1980s, okay?

00:25:12.000 And this stuff like all works in these beautiful cycles.

00:25:15.000 That's a bunch of nonsense, okay?

00:25:17.000 Here's also what we're bad at.

00:25:18.000 We look that everyone is in their better angels.

00:25:21.000 Oh, that Chuck Schumer, he's going to turn the corner, you know?

00:25:24.000 He's going to.

00:25:27.000 Right?

00:25:28.000 But not all of you, the enlightened folk of the world, right?

00:25:32.000 But I'm talking about the general.

00:25:35.000 And there is a lot of that, right?

00:25:38.000 So what the left is bad at, okay, here's what they're really bad at.

00:25:44.000 They cannot, they cannot, in any way, shape, or form, ever withstand mockery or honest criticism.

00:25:52.000 They can't.

00:25:53.000 It is the fatal flaw against a tyrant and a despot.

00:25:57.000 This is why every single person that has ever been in an authoritarian position, totalitarian position, has always first criminalized the comedians, the journalists, and the truth tellers.

00:26:09.000 Always.

00:26:10.000 You go back to Roman Council Cicero, famously had his head taken off at his own estate because he wrote a little bit too, let's just say, colorfully about the Roman rulers of the time, including Mark Anthony.

00:26:23.000 You could go through Socrates to eventually the dictators who employed the strategy of Napoleon to Joseph Stalin to Benito Mussolini.

00:26:32.000 So what does that mean for all of you?

00:26:33.000 Does that mean we all have to go become comedians?

00:26:36.000 Well, sort of, but, and I mean this very, very, this is such an obvious thing, which is why I'm so supportive of Greg Gutfeld, you know, moving against the 11 o'clock.

00:26:45.000 We are not making fun of these people enough.

00:26:47.000 We're not.

00:26:48.000 And some, by the way, God has a great sense of humor.

00:26:48.000 No.

00:26:52.000 There's a great book called Humor in the Bible.

00:26:53.000 It's a phenomenal book.

00:26:55.000 I encourage you all to look.

00:26:56.000 It takes obviously a very well-trained eye to find it because we're so, in a good way, I would say, accustomed to reading the Bible so seriously, and we should, that we kind of sometimes miss the ironic sense of some of the sense of humor in the Bible.

00:27:13.000 So we're not making fun of these people enough.

00:27:17.000 So let me give you an example.

00:27:18.000 Joe Biden's the first person ever to fall upstairs.

00:27:21.000 I've never seen it before.

00:27:22.000 Now, I should probably stop here because it is the villages.

00:27:31.000 So I'll just stop.

00:27:32.000 So, but I'll continue one more.

00:27:35.000 I've never seen a human being hit a golf ball backwards.

00:27:38.000 Have you seen this?

00:27:39.000 The new video that came out, he actually hit it backwards.

00:27:42.000 He's the only human leader that right now thinks you can get a communicable disease through Zoom.

00:27:51.000 He wears a mask on a Skype Zoom call.

00:27:56.000 It's true.

00:27:59.000 Now, I am not a stand-up comic.

00:28:01.000 By any means.

00:28:02.000 I do three hours of radio every day.

00:28:04.000 I try to be entertaining, right?

00:28:06.000 So another example, right?

00:28:08.000 So again, humor is amazing because humor is rooted in truth.

00:28:11.000 You laugh because something is true, right? 0.98

00:28:13.000 And so this whole Israel thing is happening right now.

00:28:15.000 I'm very pro-Israel. 1.00

00:28:16.000 I'm unapologetic about it. 0.99

00:28:17.000 I've visited multiple times.

00:28:18.000 We love Israel.

00:28:19.000 And I love the fact that they're unapologetic about being a home for the Jewish people.

00:28:24.000 I love the fact that a nation actually says very clearly what they stand for. 0.97

00:28:31.000 They make no means about it. 0.62

00:28:33.000 And by the way, we could learn something from Israel, which is they know that if they give an inch to the Arabs, they're done. 0.80

00:28:40.000 And so they have an iron dome. 0.84

00:28:41.000 The conservatives need an iron dome, right? 1.00

00:28:43.000 We need an iron dome. 1.00

00:28:44.000 Metaphorical, of course, whatever.

00:28:46.000 So, which is, how are we going to defend ourselves against people that wish to wipe us off the map, right?

00:28:51.000 Which is a real thing.

00:28:52.000 So anyway, there's this thing with the AP Associated Press, and they happen to be sharing a building with Hamas, right?

00:29:00.000 An office.

00:29:01.000 I could just see them walking into the elevator, like, oh, what floor?

00:29:04.000 Five.

00:29:05.000 So what do you do? 1.00

00:29:06.000 I kill Jews. 1.00

00:29:07.000 What do you do? 1.00

00:29:08.000 Oh, yeah, I report stories.

00:29:10.000 Yeah, okay.

00:29:11.000 Same time tomorrow, right?

00:29:12.000 Yeah, sure.

00:29:13.000 I mean, we're supposed to believe the Associated Press didn't know they were sharing a building with one of the leading terrorist organizations on the planet.

00:29:21.000 It's laughable because they think that they're above any sort of criticism.

00:29:24.000 And that's part of what we have to get at here, right?

00:29:26.000 Which we have to get even more open and louder and more direct at mocking the people in charge because they do not, in any way, shape, or form, in my opinion, they have not earned, remember my favorite word, earned your respect.

00:29:41.000 Let me say that again.

00:29:42.000 They have not earned it. 0.99

00:29:43.000 Now, I'm not saying you have to be a jerk about it. 0.98

00:29:47.000 You don't have to say things that are untrue. 0.98

00:29:49.000 But I'm also, excuse me while I kind of have a little less of a reservation when these people are trying to pathologically destroy Western civilization.

00:29:59.000 And all they do is try to attack our value system every single day.

00:30:02.000 So that's one of their huge weaknesses.

00:30:05.000 Number two, what's the other weakness of the left?

00:30:08.000 They're paranoid all the time.

00:30:12.000 Think about this.

00:30:13.000 It's a huge weakness of theirs.

00:30:16.000 I have never seen in my life, maybe you have, such unhappy winners.

00:30:24.000 Right?

00:30:27.000 These people won. 0.65

00:30:29.000 The screaming, wear a mask.

00:30:33.000 You won.

00:30:33.000 What?

00:30:34.000 Like, just calm down.

00:30:36.000 You control the nuclear arsenal.

00:30:38.000 Just take a day. 1.00

00:30:39.000 You're a terrible person. 0.98

00:30:41.000 Get vaccinated. 1.00

00:30:43.000 They're angrier than us.

00:30:45.000 We happen to be smiling more and finding joy in the little moments.

00:30:48.000 They are just, they're like, we're behind schedule.

00:30:51.000 The revolution was never supposed to be this hard.

00:30:55.000 And by the way, they're right.

00:30:57.000 They lost a lot. 1.00

00:30:59.000 The Septuagintarians that hate the country, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and others. 1.00

00:31:05.000 They actually now think this is why Joe Biden's acting in such a decisive way. 0.99

00:31:09.000 And I have a contrarian theory.

00:31:12.000 Yeah, decisive.

00:31:15.000 He's actually extraordinarily radical, more than Obama.

00:31:18.000 In fact, in some ways, I miss Obama.

00:31:19.000 And I'll tell you why I miss Obama, because Obama was a narcissist and Obama actually cared what conservatives said about him.

00:31:24.000 I'll get to that in a second.

00:31:25.000 Joe Biden doesn't care because he doesn't know what anyone says about him.

00:31:28.000 And so it's just a big difference, right?

00:31:31.000 So, but in some ways, we actually used Obama's narcissism against him, which actually slowed down some of the radicalism towards the latter end of his presidency.

00:31:39.000 I know that's somewhat of a contrarian view, but I could prove it through legislative action.

00:31:44.000 But so they're always paranoid.

00:31:48.000 And we know this.

00:31:49.000 This is something that is not anything new.

00:31:52.000 When people are in power, the worst thing that could possibly happen to them is losing that power.

00:31:57.000 They obsess over it.

00:31:59.000 They think everything that they do is about keeping and preserving that power.

00:32:04.000 Everything.

00:32:05.000 So we have to play into their paranoia.

00:32:07.000 We have to make them act in a way that would otherwise not be very disciplined. 0.96

00:32:14.000 And the third thing is this, that they don't do well, which just happens to be the greatest vulnerability for them and the greatest asset for us, is they happen to be selling a pile of garbage to the American people.

00:32:26.000 They actually happen to be trying to persuade a wealthy, rather reasonable, I don't know, but I guess reasonable at times country, I'd say 50 to 55% country, hope, that this such a minority of a minority view of the world is now going to be the only way to govern.

00:32:48.000 That is not a sustainable way.

00:32:50.000 So they basically are saying, okay, we're going to be in power not by persuasion, but by suffocation.

00:32:57.000 We're not going to, we don't care about changing your mind.

00:33:00.000 We care about bullying you and intimidating you.

00:33:03.000 And if we have to change the voting laws to do that through HR1, that is what we are going to do.

00:33:07.000 So be it.

00:33:08.000 We are going to waterboard our way to victory. 0.98

00:33:11.000 Now, that would work if this was France.

00:33:16.000 And I mean that because they're a straight democracy, right?

00:33:19.000 We're in power.

00:33:20.000 We're going to use our power. 1.00

00:33:22.000 Sit down and shut up. 0.98

00:33:23.000 And that's what they've done in France. 0.99

00:33:24.000 There is no conservative party in France.

00:33:26.000 They've done it.

00:33:27.000 There is no conservative party.

00:33:29.000 There's been some attempts and they're almost never successful.

00:33:33.000 The same could be said in Germany, right?

00:33:35.000 There's like a 15%, maybe.

00:33:37.000 Same in Italy.

00:33:39.000 And there's some nationalists that kind of come to power, that have some good ideas of immigration, but it's not even close to the same sort of views that we have as conservative.

00:33:46.000 Like their conservative party is like Hillary Clinton Democrats, just so you know.

00:33:51.000 That's how much they've moved the Overton window.

00:33:53.000 Same in the, like Boris Johnson, who's like the conservative, he's like Chuck Schuman. 0.99

00:33:58.000 No, seriously, and he is a wimp. 0.97

00:34:00.000 He's a terrible prime minister. 0.97

00:34:02.000 But then you have Jeremy Corbyn, who's like Bernie Sanders.

00:34:05.000 So their political debate is basically like what form of massive government, low freedom, no natural rights, mega corporation type of way you want to live under, right?

00:34:16.000 And so the Democrats play and the left's play is a very risky one.

00:34:25.000 And this might be their greatest vulnerability.

00:34:27.000 On top of their inability to accept mockery, their inability to be able to be of a calm mind.

00:34:33.000 It's very hard to build big things when you're paranoid.

00:34:36.000 You guys all know this.

00:34:37.000 Paranoia does not lend yourself to very significant endeavors.

00:34:41.000 You have a tendency to fail, to falter, to make mistakes.

00:34:45.000 The biggest thing is they don't have truth.

00:34:47.000 And they're selling things that are once implemented largely unpopular.

00:34:51.000 So what do we do about that?

00:34:52.000 We know their vulnerabilities.

00:34:54.000 Here, it's so simple.

00:34:56.000 We have to look, again, as dissidents, say, wow, okay.

00:35:00.000 So we have the best ideas, okay?

00:35:03.000 They can't stand when they lose power, okay?

00:35:06.000 And they can't stand when they get criticized, mocked, or pulled out into the public sphere.

00:35:11.000 Maybe we should do something about all those three things.

00:35:13.000 Like, number one, we should play decisive offense at anywhere that Republicans or conservatives have power in this country.

00:35:20.000 Now, the power word is a very, very complicated word for conservatives.

00:35:26.000 We don't like it.

00:35:27.000 We think that power can be abused.

00:35:29.000 Course, it can be abused.

00:35:30.000 But how does one get power in a state government?

00:35:33.000 You get voted into power.

00:35:35.000 And if you're not going to do anything with the power that the voters have given you to all of a sudden push back against this sort of totalitarian blitzkrieg, then you're a worthless Republican, in my opinion.

00:35:46.000 And that's why Ron DeSantis has done such an amazing job in this state in every single way imaginable.

00:35:53.000 And so not every state is like Florida.

00:35:57.000 You guys know this.

00:35:58.000 States that are more conservative than Florida are not doing anything close to what your governor has done.

00:36:02.000 And the state legislature deserves a lot of credit here in this state, a lot of credit, because they've been putting a lot of bills.

00:36:07.000 And they don't get enough credit, I think.

00:36:09.000 And so, for example, no critical race theory.

00:36:12.000 Now, we need to expand that more in this state, but it's a good start, right?

00:36:17.000 It's also no vaccine passports, no mandatory vaccinations, opening the state of Florida.

00:36:23.000 These are very, very good and healthy things that have been happening here.

00:36:27.000 And it's playing offense.

00:36:28.000 Do you notice that Democrats in this state are now constantly on defense?

00:36:32.000 They always have to explain why Ron DeSantis, the popular governor, is terrible, right?

00:36:37.000 And you guys feel like you have the wind at your back when you talk about our governor here, right?

00:36:42.000 And I am a Florida resident, by the way, so I could talk about our governor.

00:36:45.000 And so I fled Illinois so quickly you wouldn't believe it.

00:36:49.000 And so, but that should be replicated all across the country, right? 0.91

00:36:54.000 All of a sudden, where we have reasonable popular positions, we're like, no, no, no, we're going to set the terms of debate where we are going to say that we do not believe that men with beards should be able to shower with women in women's locker rooms.

00:37:06.000 We're also going to even go a step further where we're going to mandate constitutional curriculum in every single school across the country.

00:37:11.000 We want our kids to love America again.

00:37:13.000 And so all of a sudden, that kind of offensive strategy starts to put yourself in a position where they have to explain away why we don't want that.

00:37:22.000 They're so good at this on the national level.

00:37:24.000 And our national party has no idea what they're doing.

00:37:26.000 So we have 27 state legislatures and states and governors that we control across the country.

00:37:31.000 That's a lot of power that has been given to us.

00:37:35.000 So you might feel like you've lost everything, right?

00:37:37.000 But no, voters keep on showing up and being like, please, Republicans, protect my country.

00:37:43.000 I remember when we used to talk nicely about Pearl Harbor, please protect our country.

00:37:47.000 I remember when my grandfather served in World War II, please protect my country.

00:37:51.000 I remember when we used to have celebrations on July 4th, not protest, please protect my country.

00:37:57.000 That's what Republicans are really saying when they show up to the voting.

00:38:00.000 They don't go vote for lower corporate taxes.

00:38:02.000 No one cares about that stuff.

00:38:03.000 That's moment, that's short-term business profit maximization.

00:38:07.000 It's somewhat helpful for the well-being of the country.

00:38:09.000 That is not what's going to save us.

00:38:11.000 It's not.

00:38:12.000 And so instead, we have to look at this as something that is not just winnable, but we really don't have a choice but not to win at this moment.

00:38:23.000 Now, they are playing it so aggressively and they're playing, they're trying in every way, shape, or form to kind of smoke us out and to flank us out.

00:38:31.000 This is probably their fourth biggest vulnerability, is they're incredibly, they're paranoid, but some of them feel like they've got us, just so you understand.

00:38:40.000 Some of them feel like it's over.

00:38:44.000 They've played us.

00:38:46.000 They know they're never going to lose.

00:38:48.000 And as long as we can kind of keep that Trump guy golfing at Mar-a-Lago.

00:38:54.000 Now, they are afraid of Trump, but they're really afraid of what Trump was able to bring to the popular stage.

00:39:00.000 And someone has my book.

00:39:02.000 And let me tell you what that is.

00:39:03.000 And then we'll get to questions.

00:39:06.000 And Trump opened a beast.

00:39:08.000 And he opened up a beast that challenges the entrenched political class in a way that no one ever has.

00:39:16.000 And I don't think he'll ever get proper credit for this.

00:39:18.000 And I don't even know if he seeks the credit for that, which again is the great irony of the New York Times: Trump not seeking credit for something, which is actually true because he opened up this enlightenment, and myself included, where we were governed by Republicrats and Democrats that refused to talk about three issues that were really affecting all of you on a very deeply personal level, which is mass immigration, trade, and endless wars.

00:39:48.000 And those were the three things that both parties always agreed on.

00:39:52.000 That it's a good thing that we're bringing in 40 million people a year from Nicaragua.

00:39:56.000 Like, really?

00:39:56.000 Is that a good thing?

00:39:57.000 Like, what about wages going down?

00:39:59.000 What about the fact that we have more Spanish speakers in California than English speakers?

00:40:03.000 What about the fact that natural-born American birth rate is going down? 1.00

00:40:06.000 Is that a good thing? 1.00

00:40:08.000 Always a good thing?

00:40:09.000 And then, how about the cheap product craze?

00:40:11.000 How about the fact that we have more piles of plastic than we know what to do with in this country?

00:40:15.000 And clinics full of people trying to recover from opioids.

00:40:18.000 So, this great deal that we are brokered by Republicans is: okay, we're going to shut down your factories, bring in a bunch of pills, and you're going to like it because all of a sudden you're going to have garages full of stuff you're never going to use that you don't remember you own, that you're going to have a fire sale at one moment.

00:40:32.000 And maybe if you're lucky, you'll get a self-storage unit you could put it in.

00:40:37.000 That was the grand bargain that we were sold.

00:40:39.000 And Donald Trump comes onto the scene and is like, all of this is a bunch of, it's a scam, the whole thing.

00:40:45.000 And he does it in the way that only he can do it because he got your attention while doing.

00:40:49.000 This is what made him different than some of the leaders that talked about this stuff before.

00:40:53.000 It was Donald Trump, right?

00:40:54.000 The ultimate promoter.

00:40:56.000 And instead of talking about how wonderful it was that we are occupying Afghanistan, instead of talking about how wonderful it was that we have piles of, you know, t-shirts that we have no attraction, you know, that we have no connection to, he was criticizing the core belief that was the money flow of Washington, D.C., which was uninterrupted trade with China, which was mass migration and the war industry.

00:41:19.000 Those are the three things you are not allowed to talk about.

00:41:22.000 Like school choice, fine, you can kind of talk about that as a Republican, right?

00:41:25.000 That's like comfortable.

00:41:26.000 I'm in favor of school choice, obviously.

00:41:28.000 I run an organization that advocates for it.

00:41:29.000 But he went straight to the core.

00:41:32.000 And then they disguised their criticism of him as being a moral indictment of his tweets and his behavior and whatever.

00:41:42.000 What they really hated and what they really feared was that the Republican Party was going to become a party that cared much more about the nation of America than Goldman Sachs profits.

00:41:53.000 That cared much more about whether or not your children had a nation to live in than whether or not Amazon was building another worthless, senseless distribution center in central Florida.

00:42:05.000 And that scared them like you can't believe.

00:42:08.000 So they think they're going to win if they can quarantine those ideas in Mar-a-Lago.

00:42:14.000 They know that if those ideas get reintroduced on a national stage and the Republican Party articulates it, I'm talking about 60, 70, 80% type election victories.

00:42:26.000 We're now talking about broad consensus.

00:42:27.000 All of a sudden, you are now agreeing with some of the people on the Bernie Sanders left.

00:42:32.000 Maybe it's not a good thing that Jeff Bezos has $165 billion.

00:42:32.000 You know what?

00:42:36.000 I don't.

00:42:37.000 And I'm a conservative.

00:42:38.000 I love markets.

00:42:39.000 I don't like oligarchs. 0.59

00:42:40.000 I think it's disgusting.

00:42:42.000 And I think we as conservatives should say that. 0.85

00:42:44.000 And it's also disgusting what he does with his money.

00:42:46.000 He buys the Washington Post so that you can get your Apple News notifications of some ridiculously, you know, overly.

00:42:53.000 I don't think that's a conservative value.

00:42:55.000 And they're afraid because that's popular.

00:42:58.000 Because at the very fundamental level, the American Revolution was about protecting the small against the large.

00:43:06.000 And it was protecting the things that matter against the things that were threatening those things that matter.

00:43:12.000 And so, what does that look like for all of us?

00:43:15.000 Well, first of all, it's already happening, thankfully, because of people like you that have not given up and you're still assembling and you're still gathering, you're still doing this, which is whether or not Trump runs again in 2024.

00:43:25.000 And I don't, I have no inside information on all about that.

00:43:27.000 I really don't.

00:43:28.000 I actually don't think it matters as much as whether or not we're going to be meeting here in four years and we're going to be a conservative movement about things that actually matter.

00:43:36.000 That we're not going to keep on just exchanging the same sort of platitudes that happened like when Jeb Bush ran and fine.

00:43:40.000 Like, it's not about Jeb.

00:43:41.000 I just happened to mention because he was the perfect embodiment of just like the most boring trading ideas.

00:43:47.000 Like, that's not going to, okay, 3% GDP growth.

00:43:50.000 Fine.

00:43:51.000 Okay.

00:43:52.000 Wealth created.

00:43:53.000 But for whom?

00:43:54.000 And at what cost?

00:43:55.000 Are families getting rebuilt?

00:43:56.000 Is the divorce rate going down?

00:43:58.000 Are opioid deaths going down?

00:44:00.000 Is teen suicide going down?

00:44:01.000 Are we having more abortions or less abortion?

00:44:03.000 Is church attendance going up?

00:44:04.000 Do more people believe in God?

00:44:06.000 Is secularism the new religion?

00:44:07.000 Are kids being taught to hate the country?

00:44:09.000 I care much more about those questions than whether or not we have 3% GDP growth.

00:44:13.000 I care much more about what the fabric of the nation is, and you should too.

00:44:17.000 And so that's their final vulnerability, which is the actual ideas themselves.

00:44:23.000 And so let me close with this kind of framing of the two different economic classes and where you are on the right, we're on the right side of this one.

00:44:30.000 And this is their big fear.

00:44:31.000 They're afraid that people like me and our podcast and our radio show and you guys are going to start to all of a sudden become aware of this.

00:44:36.000 You're going to demand it of your leaders.

00:44:38.000 And all of a sudden, the Republican Party, if it does its job, is going to become a 65-70% popular party because of its ideas, which is there's two groups of people in the country, and we've seen this happen over the last year.

00:44:49.000 And neither is necessarily good or bad, but I would argue that one gets abused at the expense of the other.

00:44:55.000 There's one sector of the economy which is small but rich and powerful called the Zoom and the Skype class.

00:45:02.000 They're people that open up their laptop because they're able to open up their laptop to go to work.

00:45:08.000 They didn't have to leave their house much to be able to make a living in the last year.

00:45:11.000 Again, there's nothing necessarily bad about this.

00:45:14.000 But those people tend to have a contempt for the people that actually make the mechanical and the material economy go, the muscular class in America.

00:45:25.000 And there's 115 million people that are in the muscular class in America.

00:45:29.000 115 million people.

00:45:31.000 Those people used to be almost all Democrats. 0.52

00:45:34.000 Those people that are, they're the ones that have to wear a mask all day long because of some stupid mandate from some governor, but they keep on doing it because they want to make sure that your boxes keep on getting delivered, that you can get an Uber at a moment's notice, that you can get a meal if you want at a local restaurant. 0.71

00:45:49.000 They're the ones that have really had to labor in the last year. 0.92

00:45:52.000 They're the carpenters and the welders.

00:45:54.000 They're the electricians and the police officers.

00:45:57.000 And so the Zoom and the Skype class is trying to crush that muscular class.

00:46:01.000 But all of a sudden, for the first time ever, that muscular class in all sorts of racial backgrounds, Hispanic especially, black and white working class, is all moving in this direction of the Republican Party.

00:46:11.000 And what many of our leaders have not stopped to recognize, some have, most haven't, is why?

00:46:18.000 Well, Donald Trump started what should be the most successful political movement in the modern era, which is a restoration of this beautiful republic of people that do not own a lot.

00:46:31.000 People that don't have multiple homes, but they are rich in their soul and their spirit and their desires and their ambitions.

00:46:39.000 And isn't that what America has always been?

00:46:41.000 It's not about how big your yacht is. 0.99

00:46:43.000 Like, screw you, Jeff Bezos. 0.99

00:46:44.000 Like, we'll take that yacht from you in a second. 1.00

00:46:46.000 Okay, seriously.

00:46:48.000 And we should be unafraid about saying that.

00:46:51.000 Because what I care about more than anything else is whether or not the muscular class, the person that wants to have four children and love their country and serve their country, probably as a veteran, whether or not they can still exist in the American promise.

00:47:05.000 And that's exactly what the conservative movement should stand for.

00:47:08.000 So as we look at ourselves as dissidents, what does that all mean?

00:47:11.000 That means we have to know why we believe what we believe. 0.61

00:47:13.000 We have to know that we actually have the wind at our back right now, that they're representing an ever-increasingly radical agenda of an angry 0.1% that screams, but they have no constituency.

00:47:23.000 But we represent what is going to actually be successful in the ballot box: middle-class work, family formation.

00:47:30.000 Not just freedom and liberty, but something even more deeper and more beautiful than that.

00:47:34.000 So it's about being involved in the fight, not just a spectator.

00:47:38.000 And so let me tell you my least favorite question that I get.

00:47:42.000 My least favorite question I get is when people say, So, Charlie, how's it going out there?

00:47:48.000 Like I'm some sort of gladiator in a, like it's Maximus or something.

00:47:48.000 How's it going?

00:47:54.000 And I think to myself, there's nothing special about me.

00:47:57.000 There isn't.

00:47:58.000 I didn't go to college.

00:48:00.000 I just, I, well, thank you.

00:48:02.000 That's probably the only thing that's special.

00:48:03.000 But all of you guys could be doing this.

00:48:07.000 I'm going to say that again.

00:48:08.000 All of you guys could be doing this.

00:48:10.000 I don't have a PhD from Harvard.

00:48:12.000 I didn't split the atom.

00:48:14.000 I work really hard and I care about the country.

00:48:16.000 And maybe this is not built for you, but what do you mean, how's it going out there?

00:48:22.000 Like, what I want to hear is, Charlie, I'm laboring beside you, man.

00:48:27.000 I got death threats from being involved in my school board meeting.

00:48:30.000 I got signs being taken off my house.

00:48:34.000 I'm praying for you every day.

00:48:35.000 It's hard, isn't it, Charlie?

00:48:37.000 And I want to look at people's eyes and say, you know what?

00:48:39.000 But we're in it together.

00:48:39.000 It is.

00:48:41.000 I'm not getting that all the time.

00:48:42.000 I get the spectator conservatism.

00:48:44.000 That's not going to be sustainable.

00:48:46.000 It's got to be in the fight.

00:48:47.000 It's the man in the arena that matters.

00:48:50.000 And as we look to launch that successful, metaphorical, dissident sabotage campaign, it's going to take every single one of us.

00:48:59.000 So thank you, and let's do some questions.

00:49:00.000 Thank you guys.

00:49:03.000 Yes.

00:49:07.000 I'd be at the same time as we said on the TV talking about our values.

00:49:14.000 I don't hear the as a big problem.

00:49:17.000 I know a lot of them are running up.

00:49:20.000 And what I'm clear is: who, when it comes to even vote?

00:49:26.000 What do we need to do?

00:49:28.000 And I will tell you where I stand right now in how these countries, I'm definitely not voting Democrats, but I don't want to vote for time to take it out with me.

00:49:40.000 You're from Brooklyn?

00:49:43.000 Yeah?

00:49:52.000 So you're right.

00:49:53.000 I share that concern.

00:49:54.000 Look, I actually, I'm not ever saying you should vote for Democrat.

00:49:58.000 There is a moral case, let me be very clear, to vote for the lesser of two evils.

00:50:01.000 There is a moral case.

00:50:03.000 This is why I got so involved in the Georgia runoff.

00:50:05.000 That some people say, I don't like voting for the lesser of two evils.

00:50:08.000 Now, there's so many pot, and there's beautiful moral literature written about this from C.S. Lewis on downwards, where if you're worried about trying to find the divine and the perfect, then you'll be voting on the coming of Christ.

00:50:23.000 Like, that's about it, right?

00:50:24.000 So you're always going to be voting for the lesser of two evils, always.

00:50:28.000 Now, where the real action has to happen, though, is in the primaries, then, is who you're going to support.

00:50:33.000 Now, let me just give you a great example of this.

00:50:35.000 And I think this will actually give you some concrete action of how primaries matter.

00:50:42.000 So, in 2016, 17, I got to know a certain congressman from Florida very, very well.

00:50:48.000 And he was thinking about running for governor.

00:50:51.000 Now, some of you might remember the 2018 Florida governor's race, but I want you to think about the 2018 Florida primary for a second.

00:50:59.000 It was a very well-funded, pretty good guy, honestly, Adam Putnam.

00:51:04.000 I believe his first name was Adam, right?

00:51:06.000 Nothing necessarily wrong with him, but definitely more of an establishment pick, right?

00:51:09.000 I think that's a fair thing to say.

00:51:11.000 And was kind of in that mold of just kind of, we're gonna do things like we've always done them in Florida.

00:51:16.000 And someone entered the field that was just basically known as being the number one critic of the Mueller investigation, Ron DeSantis from the northeastern part of Florida.

00:51:26.000 And he was down in the first public poll by, I think, 52 points.

00:51:30.000 Was that about right?

00:51:31.000 52 points.

00:51:32.000 And so this story is not always told, right?

00:51:34.000 I mean, you guys lived through it, but it's just important to remember.

00:51:37.000 And that primary ended up being incredibly consequential.

00:51:41.000 Now, we don't know the governor that Adam Putnam would have been, but we know what we have now.

00:51:45.000 And we know that it's not like any other governor across the country.

00:51:48.000 Let me just say here: Adam Putner, Adam Putnam reminds me more of like a Brian Kemp.

00:51:53.000 Now, if you like Brian Kemp, then maybe this doesn't resonate with you.

00:51:56.000 Not a fan, right?

00:51:58.000 And so for a variety of reasons.

00:52:00.000 So how did that change?

00:52:02.000 Well, Donald Trump got into the primary.

00:52:05.000 He got very, very involved.

00:52:08.000 And obviously, Ron DeSantis went up significantly.

00:52:11.000 That's where the primaries start to matter a lot, right?

00:52:13.000 That's where those primary campaigns that are launched.

00:52:16.000 And I could go through chapter and verse.

00:52:19.000 Senator Ted Cruz in his primary campaign in Texas was running up against, again, again, nothing against these people.

00:52:25.000 I'm just saying that we know what we have, where that primary campaign went all of a sudden where you have a very outspoken conservative you otherwise wouldn't have.

00:52:32.000 Primaries matter a lot, everybody.

00:52:33.000 They matter in candidate selection.

00:52:35.000 They matter in showing up to those events.

00:52:37.000 And so let me just say that.

00:52:38.000 The other thing is this, which is the voting and the politics is actually not the most important thing you guys should all be focused on.

00:52:45.000 It's not.

00:52:46.000 The other stuff that matters even more than that is the local type governmental races.

00:52:53.000 And so can anyone here tell me every single school board member here in this local area?

00:53:00.000 You know them?

00:53:01.000 That's good.

00:53:03.000 Well, so let me just give you a little bit of a challenge.

00:53:08.000 The fact that we don't know our school board members here in this very involved political community, this is why we've lost the country.

00:53:16.000 And every hand should be going up.

00:53:19.000 I had breakfast with them.

00:53:19.000 Yeah, it's Susie, Tom.

00:53:20.000 I know them.

00:53:21.000 I email them all the time.

00:53:21.000 It's all out there, guys.

00:53:23.000 It's so easy.

00:53:24.000 Now, to just offer a little bit of grace, I get it.

00:53:27.000 This is not your full-time job.

00:53:28.000 You're like, no, I'm retired.

00:53:30.000 I got other stuff to do than worrying about the school board.

00:53:33.000 Now we know what's actually been happening.

00:53:35.000 Well, the school board race is where all this stuff, where critical race theory is being implemented.

00:53:39.000 And by the way, they test it on seventh graders and then they give it to Marines.

00:53:43.000 You think I'm kidding?

00:53:45.000 No, meaning like they test it on high school kids and then they give it to the U.S. Army, like the United States military.

00:53:53.000 And like, God bless our military for everything that they do.

00:53:57.000 But the point is, like, this stuff gets tried out in the schools.

00:54:00.000 And if you think that it's like, oh, it's just the kids, it doesn't matter.

00:54:02.000 You guys are, you guys know that.

00:54:03.000 You guys know that if we do not contest and fight on those local issues, they're going to spread.

00:54:07.000 So I want to come back here next year and ask that question.

00:54:10.000 And every hand goes up and everyone says, I know all of our school board members.

00:54:14.000 I know what they do.

00:54:32.000 And now Michigan also had to be filmed.

00:54:36.000 And now, what you're up to on what could possibly happen?

00:54:44.000 Yeah, so that's a great question.

00:54:46.000 I've been one of the most outspoken people to try to factually figure out what actually happened in this last election.

00:54:53.000 I think some of the conversation has been unhelpful.

00:54:57.000 The machines is an unknown thing to me.

00:54:59.000 Let me be very clear.

00:55:00.000 The machines is unknown.

00:55:02.000 I don't know if there's anything around the Dominion thing or not.

00:55:05.000 I really don't.

00:55:06.000 That's going to be figured out in a lot of civil suits, by the way, when people are going to have to be forced with discovery.

00:55:10.000 I think it's all been kind of a distraction of what we know is the real problem, which is not actually what happens on voting day.

00:55:18.000 It's voter registration fraud.

00:55:20.000 It is the voting rolls themselves.

00:55:23.000 And we know these are flawed.

00:55:24.000 Every single analysis of these voting rolls showed that there's dead people, people that have moved.

00:55:29.000 In my opinion, they tried to get us off that issue into things that were harder to prove.

00:55:35.000 Then, like, no, no, no.

00:55:36.000 There are people that are deceased on the voter rolls in Arizona that shows that a ballot actually went in.

00:55:41.000 And I think we're finally getting back to that.

00:55:44.000 But I also think that there might have been some very well-crafted, very sneaky people that tried to insert things that they knew were false into kind of conservative literature that all of a sudden we started talking about that seemed compelling to discredit the entire question around voter integrity.

00:56:00.000 And again, this is like, for example, the thing that Mike Pence was in Gitmo standing trial.

00:56:05.000 I probably got 200 emails about this in one day on our podcast.

00:56:10.000 And then I was like, oh my goodness, there's somebody spreading this stuff, right?

00:56:13.000 There has to be.

00:56:15.000 Back in December, where someone, all the, I got probably 50 emails in like an hour.

00:56:15.000 I'll give you another one.

00:56:20.000 They're like, Charlie, the president's in Texas right now.

00:56:22.000 I said, no, he's not.

00:56:24.000 And they said, oh, you don't know.

00:56:25.000 I said, okay, I hate to like pull this card.

00:56:27.000 I actually just saw him.

00:56:28.000 Like, I know where he is.

00:56:30.000 Like, he's not in Texas, okay?

00:56:32.000 Like, you're lying to us.

00:56:34.000 And I realized, like, there's a lot of misinformation out there, guys.

00:56:38.000 There is.

00:56:39.000 And some of it is not being pushed by conservatives, being pushed by people that I think sometimes want us to.

00:56:46.000 So I have been super disciplined in how we've covered this.

00:56:49.000 And I encourage all of you, if you're interested, we are on the ground in Phoenix.

00:56:51.000 We're headquartered in Phoenix.

00:56:53.000 We do two podcasts today and we're covering it very intently.

00:56:56.000 And I'm going to do a shameless plug in a second, so you have to forgive me, if that's okay.

00:57:01.000 Okay.

00:57:01.000 Yeah.

00:57:02.000 Which, so is we're actually following the information that's going into these audits.

00:57:07.000 I don't know what we'll find.

00:57:08.000 I think the bigger question, and again, this is where I think all the money should be focused.

00:57:12.000 We need $100 million to go sue to clean the voter rolls in America.

00:57:16.000 That is the best money I think that we could spend.

00:57:19.000 And that's what Ron DeSantis did here in Florida when he got to be governor.

00:57:22.000 He started to clean up these voter rolls.

00:57:24.000 And so, how old are you?

00:57:28.000 12. 0.91

00:57:29.000 That's a great age.

00:57:30.000 So you're going to, I'm going to need your help in a minute, okay?

00:57:32.000 So I do, everyone, as I mentioned, I do two podcasts a day.

00:57:36.000 And it's totally free of charge to subscribe to the Charlie.

00:57:39.000 Anyone listen to our podcast?

00:57:41.000 That's awesome.

00:57:41.000 Thank you.

00:57:42.000 Thank you.

00:57:43.000 So as you guys know, that there's big tech censorship like you wouldn't believe.

00:57:47.000 So a way to help me and help us and our program, we're also now on over 100 radio stations.

00:57:52.000 We just took over the rush slot in New York City, which we're very, very honored.

00:57:55.000 And so we're doing a lot.

00:57:59.000 And God bless Rush for everything he did to our country.

00:58:01.000 It's absolutely amazing.

00:58:04.000 Okay, done.

00:58:04.000 Yeah, I have two more.

00:58:05.000 I had...

00:58:09.000 Okay, let's go right here.

00:58:10.000 Yes, sir.

00:58:42.000 Why don't we try to go after a third time?

00:58:52.000 No consequence.

00:58:58.000 No, I so let me close the tech thing and kind of close the loop on that.

00:59:03.000 Because you're right.

00:59:04.000 So the tech issue is one of the biggest issues.

00:59:06.000 And it's going to be going down as one of the greatest failures of the Republican Party.

00:59:10.000 The fact we didn't break up these tech companies when we controlled the House, the Senate, and the presidency.

00:59:14.000 We should have broken them up, smashed them into pieces.

00:59:17.000 And so, if you guys are interested, it would bless us.

00:59:19.000 Every single one of your smartphones, you guys can subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.

00:59:23.000 Every phone has a podcast app.

00:59:25.000 And you're like, What?

00:59:26.000 My 12-year-old friend, what's your name?

00:59:29.000 Luke can probably guide you through that very easily.

00:59:32.000 So, if you guys have any questions, right, Luke, you can help.

00:59:35.000 Okay, very good.

00:59:36.000 And so, but no, every phone has it.

00:59:38.000 I would appreciate it.

00:59:39.000 The final thing is this: go to rumble, r-um-b-le-e.com.

00:59:43.000 No more YouTube.

00:59:44.000 Rumble, R-U-M-B-L-E.com.

00:59:47.000 Let me say it again: R-U-M-B-L-E.com.

00:59:50.000 Parlor is coming back online, and there will be a search engine this summer or early fall that we're working on very hard to go after Google on search.

01:00:00.000 And so, there's some competitors coming.

01:00:03.000 Now, it's going to be rocky, but it's coming.

01:00:05.000 Sorry, go ahead.

01:00:06.000 One last question.

01:00:11.000 I am the one who is not one of your family.

01:00:19.000 I would agree everyone.

01:01:05.000 Yeah.

01:01:13.000 Do we have a Convention of States representative?

01:01:16.000 Yeah, we did.

01:01:16.000 And he's sitting in the office in the back.

01:01:19.000 Yeah, so I'm supportive of the Liberty Amendments, the Convention of States.

01:01:24.000 I don't know if Mark Meckler is still running that or not.

01:01:27.000 Okay, I think he did something with Parler for a minute.

01:01:30.000 Very supportive of that.

01:01:34.000 But I'm not sure how realistic it is to implement it because some of these states seem to be dragging their feet.

01:01:38.000 But I love any and all constitutional type provisions that we have.

01:01:42.000 So just so you guys know, Convention of States, I believe it's Article 5 or Article 6.

01:01:48.000 I could be wrong.

01:01:50.000 It's right there in the Constitution that says that the states may convene a constitutional convention, of which it could actually be a check on a runaway federal government.

01:01:58.000 And so I'm very supportive of that.

01:02:00.000 I do want to get back to this other point where you said, put this guy in jail, put this in jail.

01:02:04.000 Look, you know, they have been unafraid to weaponize state attorney generals against conservatives.

01:02:09.000 And yet, I'm not arguing weaponization, of course not.

01:02:13.000 But why wouldn't the Republican Attorney General of Arkansas go after Hunter Biden and say, you know what?

01:02:20.000 You're going to raid Rudy Giuliani's apartment as if he's some sort of mob boss.

01:02:25.000 I'm not saying, I don't know if Rudy did something wrong or not.

01:02:27.000 He's America's mayor.

01:02:28.000 He was the lawyer to the president.

01:02:30.000 You don't need a 6 a.m. raid to go after Rudy Giuliani.

01:02:33.000 Like, no, that's wrong.

01:02:35.000 I don't care who you are.

01:02:36.000 That is not, that is not the way we do things in this country.

01:02:40.000 And so, and you show me the man, I'll show you the crime.

01:02:44.000 Okay, that's the way this stuff works now.

01:02:45.000 Like, okay, we're going to dissect your life there.

01:02:47.000 The point is that they're not going to stop unless it is met with equal and opposite force from the law, from whatever law enforcement is.

01:02:55.000 But for whatever reason, that's something that conservatives don't want to do.

01:02:59.000 And I'm not even saying weaponizing or anything.

01:03:01.000 I'm talking about just the rule of law of people that are so flagrantly broken.

01:03:06.000 For example, when these people lie in front of Congress, how are they able to get away with that?

01:03:11.000 They throw conservatives in jail for just having a paperwork error.

01:03:14.000 That's basically why they raided Rudy Giuliani's apartment.

01:03:17.000 They're saying, okay, you were lobbying for someone, which is unproven, not sourced, and you didn't fill out the correct paperwork.

01:03:22.000 That's worth getting federal agents to kick down a door.

01:03:25.000 Meanwhile, Rudy is offering his phone saying that I have compromising information on Hunter Biden, and they don't want it.

01:03:32.000 Again, I am not saying that Rudy did nothing wrong.

01:03:35.000 I don't know that.

01:03:35.000 No one knows that.

01:03:36.000 What I am saying, though, is that we are entering a totalitarian moment.

01:03:39.000 And if the other side thinks that there is no cost to this sort of behavior, they're just getting warmed up.

01:03:45.000 You know, I'm dirty and asked about, like, Charlie, thank you so much.

01:03:51.000 I know everything you have said.

01:03:53.000 Be bold, be brave, do something more.

01:03:56.000 The Democrats have been feeding us.

01:04:00.000 Follow the CDC.

01:04:02.000 A guideline.

01:04:04.000 But when I'm afraid, when I go into establishment now and somebody's chasing me around with a mask, I am telling them, you know what?

01:04:13.000 This is what the CDC has put out.

01:04:15.000 These are the guidelines, and I'm not wearing a mask.

01:04:24.000 We got a lot.

01:04:25.000 A lot of hands.

01:04:27.000 You were first, so Burning Ford USA.

01:04:32.000 I'm so degree that we can expand the balance of high school.

01:04:37.000 We've got 10 high schools in several counties.

01:04:40.000 One of them is for a club and all the other nine high schools.

01:04:49.000 And you know what?

01:05:07.000 And very nice to send them to you.

01:05:09.000 So let me just tell you more about Turning Point.

01:05:11.000 Again, we're always limited on time, right?

01:05:13.000 So I just...

01:05:15.000 So I started Turning Point.

01:05:18.000 We're retired.

01:05:20.000 Yeah, it's getting a little late, but no.

01:05:25.000 So I started Turning Point nine years ago in June and never went to college with nothing, no money, no connections, no idea what I was doing, just great mentors that wanted to save the country.

01:05:36.000 And in nine years, we are now on thousands of high school and college campuses across the country.

01:05:41.000 Well, over 150 people on our full-time staff.

01:05:44.000 We have some of our Turning Point leaders right here.

01:05:47.000 Stand up, please.

01:05:48.000 Any of our Turning Point leaders here, please stand up.

01:05:50.000 They do such a great job.

01:05:53.000 Terrific.

01:05:58.000 And so we have over 150 full-time people on our staff.

01:06:05.000 We reach millions of people every single day on digital social media, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube.

01:06:10.000 You've probably seen a lot of the work we do.

01:06:11.000 We have the biggest events you can imagine, Young Women's Leadership Summit.

01:06:14.000 We have our student action summit coming in Tampa.

01:06:17.000 We'll have probably 5,000 students there in Tampa coming up.

01:06:20.000 That's some of our posters that we have, which are kind of fun.

01:06:24.000 And so we're a 501c3 nonprofit.

01:06:26.000 I'm not here to raise money.

01:06:27.000 If you guys want to check it out, it's more about the work the students are doing.

01:06:31.000 We've been so blessed to be able to grow the way we have over the last decade, almost nine years.

01:06:38.000 And so we have high school groups.

01:06:39.000 We are on pace to have 1,000 high school groups by the end of the year.

01:06:43.000 But here's where all of you can come in, which is get to know your local Turning Point USA high school leaders.

01:06:48.000 Have them over for dinner.

01:06:50.000 Have our local Turning Point USA leaders here and say, hey, because you understand, they're under attack every day.

01:06:56.000 We just had a nice meet and greet with probably 30 young people upstairs.

01:06:59.000 I said, have all of you paid a price for being a conservative?

01:07:02.000 And they said, every single day I lose friends, I get persecuted.

01:07:05.000 And I'll be very honest, there's an under-support at times from the older generation putting their hand around some of these young people.

01:07:11.000 They need your help.

01:07:13.000 And there's turning point groups in every single kind of area across the country.

01:07:17.000 I'm going to Panama City, and then I'm going to Montana after this.

01:07:22.000 We're all over the place.

01:07:23.000 We always are.

01:07:23.000 And so, but there are young people that are needing and wanting your help.

01:07:27.000 So there's a successful model where we have seen communities kind of come and embrace these young patriots.

01:07:33.000 that want to take a stand for our country at a fundamental level.

01:07:36.000 So I'd encourage you guys to do that.

01:07:38.000 We're very easy to get in touch with.

01:07:40.000 We have team members here, and so we'd be happy to help assist with that.

01:07:44.000 We see I got a lot of questions here, so he's going to spend a few more minutes.

01:07:47.000 Yes, ma'am.

01:07:48.000 I would say I always need to be on this under two basics.

01:07:53.000 And I would say that right now.

01:08:01.000 A few people went further than they wanted to have, but there's tens of thousands of us who didn't.

01:08:07.000 And yet, I feel like we're all being demonstrated.

01:08:10.000 And that's what the left is doing to us.

01:08:12.000 The ones that will, well, in tried to make a difference, to make a stand, to do something over all these people.

01:08:19.000 Yes.

01:08:20.000 I mean, look, I completely, and this is what, did you guys hear that at all?

01:08:24.000 She said she was there on January 6th, and she feels as if they're all being demonized.

01:08:28.000 And so, look, this was an, I saw it happening in real time.

01:08:31.000 I was in Phoenix when it was all unfolding.

01:08:34.000 I personally did not like when people were smashing windows.

01:08:36.000 I don't know who those people were.

01:08:37.000 I don't associate with those people.

01:08:39.000 And again, that's still unfolding.

01:08:43.000 But what I think was in, I saw happening in real time the intentional blurring of the 200,000 people without the ellipse as if they were the guy, like the Chewbacca man that was like, or the person with the zip ties that was like scaling the site.

01:08:58.000 Like, okay, that's kind of a difference.

01:09:00.000 But it was intentional, right?

01:09:01.000 This is a power grab.

01:09:02.000 Of course it is.

01:09:03.000 And they're all of a sudden immediately after that, they're like, oh, we want to use this as mass surveillance to try to surveil citizens and try to infiltrate their groups.

01:09:10.000 And so the impeachment had actually a backfiring effect.

01:09:15.000 So the impeachment actually kind of put that issue to rest, at least in the short term, because it backfired and there was a verdict that showed against it.

01:09:24.000 I think they actually regretted doing the impeachment because it actually ended the news cycle around that.

01:09:29.000 But look, it's long past time for people to speak very clearly about what, first of all, we had a whole ridiculous season of actual, like legitimate violence against our country for months, and we still do.

01:09:47.000 And that was completely and totally excused.

01:09:49.000 And so I appreciate the sentiment.

01:09:51.000 I really do.

01:09:51.000 But I can tell you that this is a strategy where they want to basically indict 75 million people because power for them is not a means.

01:10:00.000 It is an end.

01:10:01.000 And so let me, if I can extrapolate this further, if I could tell you another thing that really frustrates me about the conservative movement is how we play into the left's own hand.

01:10:08.000 So let me just be very clear.

01:10:10.000 The left does not want to abolish the police.

01:10:13.000 The left does not want to abolish the police.

01:10:17.000 They don't want to kill them.

01:10:18.000 They don't.

01:10:19.000 No, it's not control.

01:10:20.000 You're right.

01:10:21.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:10:21.000 I'm sorry.

01:10:22.000 Where they always try to create environments that will give them an excuse to have more control over your life.

01:10:30.000 So they want a national police force.

01:10:33.000 And so we're going around acting as if they want to get rid of the police.

01:10:37.000 And so what we're really doing is we're giving that, they're like, oh, so they start with a ridiculous argument.

01:10:42.000 They defund the police in Minneapolis.

01:10:44.000 Crime's going to go up.

01:10:45.000 And then you're going to have Elon Omar say it is now time for us to have a national police force come into Minneapolis and clean up the mess.

01:10:52.000 So police force they control.

01:10:54.000 They don't like local sheriffs.

01:10:56.000 They don't like the 5,000 local police departments that operate with their own autonomy.

01:11:01.000 I've been talking about this for weeks.

01:11:02.000 And finally, people are starting to mention this on television.

01:11:04.000 I wrote a long piece about this that went kind of viral, which is so obvious what they're doing.

01:11:08.000 But they do this in every single issue, where they create a crisis.

01:11:12.000 We have a crisis manufacturing, and then they're able to validate and justify their power grab.

01:11:19.000 When it comes to one citizen's one vote, how did you see the 2020 elections?

01:11:25.000 How did you see the 2022 election?

01:11:29.000 Yeah, again, we don't know.

01:11:31.000 But I mean, we have plenty of evidence to show that there's a practice called, and this is the New York Times-owned term.

01:11:37.000 I don't love the term. 0.99

01:11:38.000 It's called granny farming, where they go into elderly homes and they take advantage of people. 0.99

01:11:42.000 And we have evidence to show this happened in Wisconsin in favor of Joe Biden. 0.98

01:11:46.000 We have the Nevada Native Project where we had Joe Biden buses and people exchanging $50 for ballots in favor.

01:11:52.000 We have evidence of all this.

01:11:54.000 Not just evidence.

01:11:54.000 We have, and none of this was investigated.

01:11:57.000 None of it was.

01:11:57.000 And I don't quite get that part, why these Republican attorney generals refuse to do anything about it.

01:12:04.000 I just don't get it.

01:12:06.000 And we can, speculation is actually very unhelpful because it just really drives me nuts.

01:12:12.000 It really does.

01:12:14.000 And so, yeah, we've had our vote diluted.

01:12:17.000 And no doubt, of course we have.

01:12:20.000 But so some people say I'm never voting again.

01:12:22.000 That is the worst thing you could possibly say.

01:12:24.000 Instead, get involved right now materially in fixing whatever voting system.

01:12:28.000 But let's be positive.

01:12:29.000 Let's be solution-oriented.

01:12:31.000 We are living in a state right now where I trusted the verdict that came out of Florida.

01:12:35.000 Did you guys trust the verdict that came out of Florida?

01:12:37.000 Donald Trump won by 400,000 votes.

01:12:40.000 So what we're admitting is not every single state and every single county was broken.

01:12:44.000 In Florida, it used to be where you didn't trust it.

01:12:46.000 Remember?

01:12:46.000 Brenda Snipes?

01:12:48.000 And remember, what's her name? 0.99

01:12:49.000 Brenda Snipes?

01:12:49.000 Is that it?

01:12:50.000 Is that it?

01:12:50.000 Yeah.

01:12:52.000 Or how about in 2000?

01:12:53.000 And so this happened because DeSantis came in and made changes to it.

01:12:58.000 And so these people in these other states like Arizona, they're making changes.

01:13:01.000 Georgia made some minor changes.

01:13:04.000 And so it's, in my opinion, and I've had some very robust disagreements with some other conservatives about this that you guys all know that have been on the voter integrity issue.

01:13:13.000 They're focused on machines and they're focused on internet connectivity and they're focused on satellites.

01:13:18.000 I think that's all fine.

01:13:20.000 But if you don't get the voter roll issue, all that stuff doesn't matter.

01:13:23.000 The voter rolls is the fundamental thing.

01:13:26.000 All that other stuff is icing on the cake.

01:13:28.000 And by the way, if they did anything there, you're not going to prove it.

01:13:32.000 The voting role stuff's really simple and it's also very agreeable and you can win in court on that.

01:13:37.000 When we challenge voter rolls, we're like, hey, here's 300,000 dead people.

01:13:41.000 It's time to take them off the voting rolls.

01:13:44.000 A judge looks at that and they're like, yeah, that's a pretty good point.

01:13:48.000 And the other stuff is just going to, it just gets thrown out.

01:13:50.000 So that's my personal opinion.

01:13:51.000 But let me be very clear.

01:13:53.000 I, unlike other people in the Republican Party, I am not going to let this issue go.

01:13:57.000 If we do not have safe and secure elections, we do not have a country.

01:14:02.000 And we need to fix the way we do elections in this country and be unapologetic in doing so.

01:14:12.000 Well, I would hope so. 0.88

01:14:13.000 I mean, non-citizens are now voting in municipal elections in California. 1.00

01:14:17.000 They're voting in municipal elections in Vermont.

01:14:19.000 But also in Arizona, you have, I mean, not Arizona.

01:14:23.000 They're thinking to put in motor voter through HR1.

01:14:25.000 And you have the illegals that have driver's licenses.

01:14:28.000 And so if you have a driver's license, then you can get a ballot, and then you're able to get into the system.

01:14:33.000 And so that's already being put into question right now.

01:14:37.000 Big time.

01:14:43.000 Thank you, guys.

01:14:44.000 Thank you.

01:14:48.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:14:49.000 Email us your questionsfreedom at charliekirk.com.

01:14:51.000 And if you want to get involved with TurningPointUSA, go to tpusa.com.

01:14:54.000 God bless you guys.

01:14:55.000 Speak to you soon.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 23, 2021

How to be a Conservative Dissident

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