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00:02:17.000Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Rob Schneider, Roseanne Barr, Dennis Prager, Allie Beth Stuckey, James O'Keefe, Patrick Bett David, Glenn Beck.
00:02:25.000I mean, just drop everything and come to Phoenix.
00:02:54.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:03:03.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:04:44.000And I mean, what we have seen, by the way, in the last couple weeks, the outright Jew hatred on these campuses is repulsive.
00:04:52.000And every one of these people should be deported back to their country of origin for what we have been seeing happening on American campuses.
00:05:39.000So I want to just show you this because it's a perfect window into why we're gathering.
00:05:45.000And some people will say, and we have people of all faiths that donate to Turning Point USA, and that's fine.
00:05:52.000Some of those people will challenge me.
00:05:54.000They said, Charlie, I don't think that a belief in God is necessary for a free society.
00:05:59.000I always go back to a G.K. Chesterkin quote where he says, If you stop believing in God, you don't believe in nothing, you'll believe in anything.
00:06:08.000And I want to show you living evidence of this.
00:06:12.000And this is a taxpayer-funded university here at Northern Arizona University.
00:06:16.000You might have seen when I visited, you know, a huge mob of people tried to prevent me from coming on campus, the whole thing.
00:06:22.000But no, this particular clip has been seen over 100 million times for a very good reason.
00:06:28.000And I am dialoguing or attempting to dialogue with three young ladies.
00:06:34.000And I ask a question that should not be a question.
00:06:47.000For any pastor or any Christian out there that says that the culture war doesn't matter, I think this clip demonstrates the whole ballgame.
00:06:56.000And I don't want to ruin it for you, but enjoy this.
00:07:41.000You can't answer the question with a media.
00:07:44.000It's the college kids of America going hundreds of thousands of dollars into debt who think it's a trick question when you ask them what a woman is.
00:07:53.000And that's That's an NAU, right, right, right up the street in flagstaff.
00:09:33.000Like a great opportunity, like to, you know, own feminism.
00:09:39.000No, because if you ever acknowledge that there's some absolute truth, that means that they might have to live by that absolute truth.
00:09:47.000And at the root of a lot of this is a generation that believes that they are the center of the universe, the most important thing ever to exist in the history of the world.
00:10:43.000They're suffering because they've actually never been told the truth.
00:10:46.000And most Christians will tell them, well, we just do the gospel.
00:10:49.000You know, we just do one part of the scriptures.
00:10:52.000But if you don't do the totality of the Bible, God's entire promise and entire plan, then what are you actually going to say to a young person at Northern Arizona University that says, well, I believe a woman is something that identifies as a woman.
00:11:08.000I don't have to emphasize this, and I'm not here to depress you.
00:11:15.000If you can't even have basic answers to the most fundamental biological facts, hilariously, if I would have a bunch of seven-year-olds, they'd be able to answer it better than your college kids.
00:11:33.000We must first look at ourselves as the reason why this is happening.
00:11:38.000The cancer of transgenderism, which is from the pit of hell, spreads as a virus throughout our nation and our land, largely because pastors and Christians have been afraid to correct error with truth or contest in the public arena.
00:11:56.000And you know what's so amazing is that most of the kids that tend to attend our events, by the way, tomorrow at UCLA, we can't find a room big enough to fit all the students that want to attend our speech at UCLA tomorrow.
00:12:08.000They're not necessarily all religious, but they're searching for truth.
00:12:13.000And what an amazing opportunity for revival and for an awakening.
00:13:08.000And if I could be even more honest with you, some of you in this room might even be like, well, I say I'm pro-life, but I know my daughter's having a lot of premarital sex.
00:13:17.000And if she gets pregnant, I would take her to an abortion clinic.
00:13:19.000You know, half of Christians believe that privately?
00:14:06.000And he is dedicating his writings and his speaking about trying to kick wokeism out of American Christianity, which I believe is one of the most important things we can do.
00:14:17.000Join me in welcoming tonight's guest and the last Freedom Night of 2023, Lucas Miles, everybody.
00:15:17.000There was an early church father named Irenaeus, and he was in the second century.
00:15:21.000And what he saw was during the first century that the church had a problem with Gnosticism that it didn't fully eradicate.
00:15:28.000And so Gnosticism went on, which was one of the first heresies to face the church.
00:15:32.000It went on for several, you know, really centuries before it was kind of stopped for a time.
00:15:37.000And now we're seeing a new form of it today in wokeism.
00:15:39.000But Irenaeus wrote in the second century, and essentially I'll paraphrase the introduction to his book.
00:15:46.000He said that the reason why the first century church was not able to fully, you know, really put the nail in the coffin of Gnosticism is because they didn't understand it.
00:15:55.000And so then he wrote a 600-page book called Against Heresies to help them understand Gnosticism.
00:16:00.000This is sort of my attempt to do the same thing.
00:16:03.000The church has not been ready for gay marriage, for transgenderism.
00:16:07.000We've not been ready for critical race theory.
00:16:09.000We've not understood communism well enough, Marxism well enough.
00:16:12.000We've not understood, I think, a lot of the critical climate theory and all the things that are being taught today in our schools.
00:16:40.000But I think it's a necessary thing that we get sharp on these things so that we can recognize, we shouldn't be able to, there shouldn't be any question on being able to identify a woke pastor.
00:16:50.000We should be able to walk into church and in a service or two be able to go, nope, that's not a place I want to take my family.
00:16:56.000But most Christians aren't there, and so I wrote this really to help prepare them.
00:17:00.000So let's kind of define our terms then.
00:18:14.000And now what we're seeing is even pro-trans.
00:18:16.000There was a TikToker that, and I wish I had this video queued for us because it's so good.
00:18:20.000Is this this TikToker influencer with just a bazillion followers gets out and goes, you know, Jesus was really pro-trans because he called John his beloved, and so he was probably gay.
00:18:32.000And then also he wore a tunic, and that's a lot like a dress.
00:18:36.000So therefore, Jesus might even have been trans himself.
00:18:39.000And you have a generation of people that are so biblically illiterate, they hear this and they go, oh, that's fascinating.
00:18:46.000And to any, you know, good, you know, well-informed Christian that's read the Bible even like once, they're able to go, this is ridiculous.
00:18:54.000But yet so many people are being led astray by this sort of rhetoric.
00:18:59.000So the idea of the woke, it's a term used a lot.
00:19:04.000There's a couple, I think, really easy definitions, which is call anything that you want to take over unjust until you control it, right?
00:19:13.000So, for example, critical race theory, call something racist until you're in control, call something transphobic until it's a means to control.
00:19:21.000But also, the best definition of woke is against any sort of natural law.
00:19:28.000It is against, it is so against what we understand to be true that it requires a college degree to even entertain it.
00:19:37.000And you guys laugh, but what's funny is that if you go down the income ladder, the poorer you are in America, the less likely you are to believe in the ideas the woke are pushing.
00:19:55.000And hilariously, one of the unintended consequences of the unadulterated invasion on our southern border, which is unbelievably awful, is that Hispanics don't want this.
00:20:08.000Is that they don't believe that men can give birth.
00:20:11.000They don't think that men and women are basically the same.
00:20:14.000They don't believe it's okay for a 12-year-old to chop off their genitals and do that under the guise of gender-affirming care.
00:20:20.000Instead, that's a uniquely white, upper-middle-class, college-educated phenomenon done at Boston's Children's Hospital or the Denver Children's Hospital, which are two of the most educated states in the country.
00:20:32.000It requires a college degree to be indoctrinated and to believe some of this stuff.
00:20:36.000So talk about where this manifests in Christianity.
00:20:38.000Yeah, so I mean, as you said, these things are intentionally confusing.
00:20:42.000So if we, you know, in the book, I go through kind of this full history of really progressive thought in the church, when the church started grabbing hold of a lot of really extra-biblical ideas.
00:20:52.000We could go back to the 17, 18, 1900s for this.
00:20:55.000But I think in more recent, you know, like in the last hundred years, you saw the birth of what is called liberation theology.
00:21:03.000So in the Catholic Church, there was a priest named Gutierrez who lived in Latin America.
00:21:09.000And in the 1950s and 60s, he really created this morphing of this amalgamation of Marxism and Catholicism, and it became known as liberation theology.
00:21:20.000The current pope is a liberation theologian.
00:21:24.000Well, we're now injecting Marxism into the faith, and it creates this oppressor versus oppress framework.
00:21:32.000In this case of liberation theology, it is rich versus poor.
00:21:37.000And a radical liberation theologian actually believes that God has a special blessing on the poor, and that we are actually doing them a disservice to bring them up out of poverty because we are stealing the blessing on them.
00:21:52.000So a lot of times it's we will, you know, kind of love them and serve them just enough to kind of meet these basic needs, but we won't actually teach them, equip them about how to prosper, how to grow, how to get out of their situation, how to overcome the obstacles in life.
00:22:06.000And so there's actually a theological substructure that's shaping a lot of this.
00:22:11.000Now, I don't think that a lot of people on the left today are walking around going, I'm a liberation theologian, that they're consciously aware of this.
00:22:18.000But they've adopted these dogmas, and we're seeing that how the left and how Democrats tend to treat urban populations and marginalized communities is they want to keep them just there to where they need them so they can get their vote, but not actually where they can help them overcome.
00:22:36.000That is actually a theological substructure that's there.
00:22:40.000But some Christians will fall prey to a pastor, a musician, or a Christian influencer that will say, Lucas, Jesus is all about love, and we must love everybody.
00:22:55.000And so I don't like the anger that I hear in Christian circles.
00:23:49.000So, look, here, you know, people say these arguments all the time.
00:23:53.000I mean, even if we go back to 2020 up to today, you had people quoting scripture and quoting Jesus that have never talked about Jesus before ever, but are using the name of Jesus as propaganda to push everything from, you know, COVID mandates to, you know, one of my favorites was when we were watching Antifa and BLM kind of burn down cities across America, is there were people that were going, well, Jesus, you know, turned over the tables in the temple.
00:24:23.000And so sometimes we have to allow people to express their anger that that's a biblical thing.
00:24:27.000And, you know, I mean, the idiocy about that is it's really mind-blowing when you hear it, but this is driving it.
00:24:34.000So there are people that would say that, you know, well, Jesus was a refugee for a while in Egypt, so therefore we should be pro-open borders.
00:24:41.000You know, Jesus was, you know, Jesus was a Palestinian.
00:24:46.000We hear things like, you know, Jesus would be pro-socialism if he were here today, despite the fact that every one of his parables, you know, teaches personal responsibility, personal stewardship.
00:24:59.000And so, you know, my hope and really my mission, I was telling Charlie beforehand, I've done, I think, about 500 media appearances this year, and I still feel like we're just scratching the surface of the church.
00:25:10.000There's so much work that needs done, which, you know, by the way, like, and I'm not saying this just to, you know, applaud you here in front of everybody, but the work that Turning Point is doing, the work that you're doing, the work that you've been able to gather pastors across denominations that Christians have not been able to do and like Christian networks have not been able to do for 50 years.
00:25:32.000And I've been able to see that firsthand.
00:25:34.000And what we are seeing today, and what I believe has to happen, that I think you are doing such a great job orchestrating right now with Turning Point Faith, is that we have to let go of the debate over some of these secondary issues and that biblically-minded Christians have to unite around primary doctrines, circle the wagon, and tell wokeism you have no place here and see it eradicated from the pulpit.
00:26:15.000I think some of you have attended every single one, by the way.
00:26:18.000I haven't even attended every single one.
00:26:21.000This has been, I kid you not, seen by tens of millions of people through podcasting, online, video.
00:26:27.000We now have 2,000 pastors and churches part of our network at TPUSA Faith as part of the ripple effect of what we do.
00:26:36.000And one of, just to give you some encouragement, one of the things that pastors notice, they say, what do you mean you do a monthly event where you just speak the truth?
00:26:44.000Yeah, we do a monthly event and we pack it up.
00:26:48.000It raises the bar nationally for pastors in the valley here.
00:26:53.000And just so you know, there are some awesome churches in the valley here that are starting to speak out more because of what's happening here.
00:27:20.000We want to make sure we're very technically correct here.
00:27:22.000It drives me nuts when people say that.
00:27:24.000Just for clarifying that, I appreciate it.
00:27:25.000When I saw that advertisement of he's gets us or whatever, and they said Jesus was a refugee too, it's like why we need to have open borders and all this.
00:27:35.000It's biblically illiterate and it's using left-wing talking points and appropriating them.
00:27:39.000By the way, one of my favorite memes ever is a picture of kind of like a purple-haired leftist that's screaming, right, and says, you know, Jesus wanted open borders, but I don't believe in Jesus.
00:27:49.000But if I use Jesus, you might give me what I really want, which is open borders.
00:27:54.000Which is be very careful who's trying to get you to do what they want, why they're trying to do it, even though they might not believe in the thing that they're trying to do.
00:28:01.000They're trying to make you live to a standard that they themselves not even live.
00:28:05.000Anyway, but Lucas, let me ask you a question here, which is heresies.
00:28:10.000And I love this theme, and it's perfectly consistent.
00:28:13.000I've been asked by pastors, they said, Charlie, what is the goal of TPSA Faith?
00:28:19.000One of the immediate goals is to understand in the history of the church, there are times when very robust, sometimes fierce debates occur of what do we believe.
00:28:46.000And one more, in the 1800s, John C. Calhoun, a very gifted Southern writer, believed that slavery was supported by the scriptures, which it is not.
00:28:58.000But this was a heresy that was growing in southern churches and was a defense in the Confederacy.
00:30:35.000But, you know, we still got the better.
00:30:36.000We got the better side, you know, but we have more snow as well, which so it's a trade-off.
00:30:41.000But, you know, when you look at, you know, if you're by any body of water, you see these buoys, and they might be marking the swim zones or, you know, boating lanes or something like that.
00:30:51.000And basically, a buoy is a big float that sits on top of the water, and it's got a cable that goes down to the bedrock, and it has some sort of weight or anchor point into the bottom of the lake or the ocean or whatever it is.
00:31:03.000But that buoy is able to float in a circle as the wind and the waves come.
00:31:08.000That circle, if you will, is, I believe, a picture of orthodoxy.
00:31:12.000Is that it is connected to the truth of the word and it is rooted into the source, the bedrock, which is Jesus Christ.
00:31:23.000The problem is when the cable gets disconnected and you just start drifting out into the dark waters of progressive ideology, that's where problems start.
00:31:30.000So, look, I could debate once saved, always saved versus lose your salvation.
00:31:34.000I could debate spiritual gifts, speaking in tongues versus not speaking in tongues, women in ministry versus not women in ministry.
00:31:39.000I have very specific views on all of those things as sort of an independent charismatic.
00:31:44.000But those things do not divide me from another brother or sister in Christ, or at least they shouldn't.
00:31:51.000And so I'm able to find unity over the primaries while having some coffee shop conversations over the secondary and tertiary beliefs.
00:32:00.000But when somebody starts violating primary doctrines, God is the creator, lordship of Jesus, Trinity, heaven and hell, depravity of man, need for repentance, all these sort of things, the dwelling presence of the Holy Spirit, then we have to speak up.
00:32:24.000And if I could just make sure everyone understands the stakes here, in a majority of seminaries, not a majority of churches, this false doctrine is winning.
00:33:11.000In my book, I believe it's $2 or $3 million that Biola took, which there's some great people at Biola.
00:33:18.000This isn't a condemnation against every single person there, but they took from a foreign donor that has ties to the Democratic Party.
00:33:26.000And Soros also funds, not seminaries directly, but Soros has funded Christian groups that try to, let's say, weaken the truth of the gospel.
00:33:39.000Yeah, so, I mean, look, when you look at this kind of, you know, global reset, new world order, it's what I call the return to the Tower of Babel.
00:33:46.000We basically had this, you know, the Tower of Babel is everybody speaking one language.
00:33:55.000It was there really out of rebellion because you had people like Nimrod and others in Scripture that did not trust God that he wasn't going to flood the earth again.
00:34:03.000And so they were trying to build a structure that they could have.
00:34:06.000That's a little bit Lucasology, right?
00:34:07.000That's not, but we can extrapolate some of these ideas.
00:34:10.000What we're seeing today is this, because the world has lost hope in the eternal, they're trying to build an eternal here, this utopia.
00:37:24.000Through trying to find middle, through suing for peace, finding neutrality?
00:37:28.000How do we defeat a lie from the pit of hell?
00:37:31.000There's a rumor about the Council of Nicaea that the person that we call St. Nicholas, who we have a guy in a red suit that's kind of loosely based on, slapped a heretic at the Council of Nicaea.
00:37:44.000And sometimes that might be the appropriate response.
00:37:47.000But the majority of the time, what we have to do is we have to, first of all, we have to educate the church on these things.
00:37:55.000This is, you know, it's not enough just to, somewhere along the lines, pastors have believed this lie.
00:38:00.000It's like when God comes to Adam and Eve and says, who told you you were naked?
00:38:04.000I say to pastors, who told you that abortion is a political topic?
00:38:08.000Who told you that marriage is a political issue?
00:38:10.000Who told you that sexuality and gender are political or that sovereign borders are political?
00:38:15.000These are first and foremost spiritual issues that we have to teach and train and equip people for.
00:38:20.000If our job, according to Ephesians 4, as leadership in the church, is to train God's people for works of service, it goes on to say so that they won't be tossed by every wind and wave that comes against them with doctrine and deceit.
00:38:31.000And so we have to equip people in this way.
00:38:35.000I think that congregants can also put that upward pressure.
00:38:38.000Now, you guys don't need to do it because you've got pastors that are standing with you here in this and really leading the charge, which is awesome.
00:38:44.000But I think anybody else watching this kind of later or over the live stream, et cetera, that they could put some upward pressure on their pastor to ask them about these things.
00:38:54.000And so we've created a website within our ministry called AmericanPastorProject.org that you can actually take to your pastor and say, hey, have you signed the statement here for biblical inerrancy and biblical authority here?
00:39:07.000And if they haven't signed it, then you either are at a woke church or they haven't heard about us yet.
00:39:11.000And you're going to find out real quick on if you're a woke church or not.
00:39:14.000And so heresy, you know, to maybe give you a more direct answer, heresy tends to happen because we're either elevating grace or we're elevating truth, one over the other.
00:39:43.000If you elevate it so high, you know, and if you elevate a concept of grace over truth, you become a progressive, where it's just a doctrine of permissivism and a doctrine of acceptance.
00:39:55.000And so we have to always look at our doctrine and say, where is the grace in this and where is the truth in this?
00:40:02.000And if one is missing, we have to go back to the scriptures.
00:40:05.000We have to make sure that what we're teaching actually lines up with that.
00:40:07.000Yeah, and the best example of this, if you want to see the gospel in one narrative, John 8, where everyone's gathering around to stone the woman, and Jesus comes in and says, let the first among you throw the first stone.
00:42:15.000The proper use of the law, he says, is for law breakers, for basically people who are self-righteous, that think they can do whatever they want, that don't think that there's a standard.
00:42:23.000And that person needs to be given the law until they're basically broken and they go, what must I do to be saved?
00:42:29.000And then you go, oh, by the way, here's the grace of God that gets to come in.
00:42:32.000And so you're doing a lot of stuff with people that are law breakers.
00:42:35.000And I think that's why you're leading the truth.
00:42:37.000I think you're doing a great job at that.
00:42:40.000But we all should go through that introspection, right?
00:42:43.000Which is sometimes if we go too far on the truth side or too far, honestly, let's be honest, most churches are way too far on the grace side and they don't whisper about truth.
00:43:47.000I am so glad to be able to get here tonight.
00:43:49.000And I drove many miles to get here, Lucas.
00:43:53.000I had an opportunity to speak to our senior pastor today.
00:43:56.000He was at a board meeting down in Florida at SEU.
00:43:59.000And his wife Angel wasn't able to get here.
00:44:00.000She's been across the world doing the Lord's work.
00:44:04.000But did some research knowing you were coming here tonight and what you've talked about.
00:44:10.000And Charlie, you started tonight with totalitarianism and the lack of totality that we've represented as believers.
00:44:19.000And I think some of the things you may be pointing out here, when we look at and understand totalitarianism, the fact that there's a segmenting possibly that's going to come from getting us, it's a setup.
00:44:31.000If we look at, so if you look at Sun Tzu, The Art of War, he states in there that if you don't know yourself and you don't know your enemy, you have zero chance of winning.
00:44:41.000But if you know yourself and you know your enemy, now you've got a match here.
00:44:44.000Okay, I don't know that we know all of that.
00:44:47.000And then, Charlie, you'd mentioned that we've got a 25-25 hot cold and a 50%, I don't know what.
00:44:55.000And that borrows from Eric Metaxa's book on Bonhoeffer.
00:44:58.000It kind of sets the stage, I think, where we are at today and to reckon with what we're up against.
00:45:04.000And it's really totalitarianism that's rolling out in front of us.
00:45:07.000And if we don't stop and recognize who our enemy is and what they're trying to do and the 3D chess match they're playing, we're winding up sitting ducks.
00:45:16.000And so I think the things you're bringing to us, brother, I think are right on the money.
00:45:20.000And we need to be paying very close attention practically and pragmatically.
00:45:27.000Just a reminder, if you guys have questions, feel free to line up.
00:45:31.000Okay, so when you talk about heresy being the complete truth, after your last turning point that I was on, I had about like 15 to 20 people come up to me about that reel you made.
00:45:45.000And I think the other people were more offended than I was about it because I know in my heart the whole entire question, the statement that I had to enter it.
00:45:55.000So thank God for like me being rooted in my relationship with him and other people being more offended than me.
00:46:00.000But with taking God's will into your own hands, I guess also, so I just want to know your guys' opinion on IUIs and hysterectomies and vasectomies.
00:46:08.000You know, if you're taking something that's not God's will for you in your life and you're using technology and all these other, you know, like available stuff that they've created over time, like I just want to know what your opinions are on stuff that's actually not natural either.
00:46:24.000You're going to make me tackle that, aren't you?
00:46:27.000Okay, so yeah, so the question is essentially, and correct me here if I'm wrong, is that as Christians, there are a lot of ethical things that we're facing today with the result of new technology, specifically in the medical arena.
00:46:41.000You talked about hysterectomies, about vasectomies, about some of the sexual health things that are happening.
00:46:45.000And how do we approach that biblically?
00:46:49.000Yeah, because if those aren't, you know, God wants you to have, you know, if you're taking technology and taking God's will into your own hands and using, you know, what they invented over time, you're taking it God's will that was never actually meant.
00:47:03.000So yeah, I'll do my best to take a stab at that.
00:47:06.000So, look, there are a lot of things that we have today that are obviously not talked about in scripture, right?
00:47:11.000And so we don't, scripture doesn't talk about computers.
00:47:13.000It doesn't talk about cars or anything like that.
00:47:16.000Now, that doesn't mean that all these things are inherently wrong.
00:47:19.000I think there's a lot of things that we have.
00:47:23.000These are tools that are available to us.
00:47:26.000There are ways to use those in a way that promotes righteousness.
00:47:29.000There's ways to do those that promote life in people.
00:47:31.000And there's ways to do that that creates kind of this Frankenstein-you know, science that we're seeing perpetuated today.
00:47:40.000I think that there's a lot of personal liberties in some of the things that you're talking about.
00:47:43.000I believe that, although I would love to see somebody healed just from God, the reality is that that's not what we see as the norm for most people.
00:48:28.000It's sort of this modern embrace of these things that we can, where there's room for different perspectives.
00:48:33.000What is where maybe one person lands is not going to be where the other person lands.
00:48:37.000We have to make sure and not create a law about those things that starts bringing judgment and condemnation on other people that might see it a little bit differently than us, you know, one way or the other.
00:48:46.000When you get into medical, you know, some of the reproductive stuff, if it is actually, you know, killing a child or doing something like that, obviously that moves into, that becomes a primary doctrine real quick at that point.
00:48:59.000Yeah, and I would say, so actually, it's interesting, and I think 1 Timothy, Paul writes to Timothy, hey, I know your stomach's hurting.
00:49:05.000You should try a little bit of wine, which is interesting because actually is Paul supporting this idea of what would be considered medicine.
00:49:12.000So there are some people, I don't think anyone here, there's an entire denomination that Mary Baker Eddie, and there's some great Christian scientists, but they don't believe in any sort of external medicine.
00:49:21.000And I don't believe that to be biblical, by the way, at all.
00:50:02.000Something that we take for granted is a fever reducer.
00:50:05.000Fever is used to kill people all the time, including pregnant mothers, right?
00:50:09.000And just the simple Tylenol, if you're pregnant or whatever, Advil, can reduce your fever and can increase your chances of survival.
00:50:16.000Where I think there is moral questions that I'm not necessarily equipped to answer, but the church has debated this forever.
00:50:24.000If you're using a medical intervention to change nature and not for the sake of changing nature, then I think there's some serious moral questions for that.
00:50:32.000And a lobotomy would be an example, right?
00:50:35.000A lobotomy is sick, cruel, and unusual.
00:50:38.000You're literally taking out a frontal lobe and it doesn't work and you're creating someone to be catatonic.
00:50:43.000Which is different than, say, a brain surgery where somebody has a tumor that they have to extract.
00:50:48.000And so there's those moral questions we have to sort through.
00:50:51.000Understand that the original, the first scientist is Sir Francis Bacon.
00:50:57.000He wasn't necessarily a Christian, but Sir Isaac Newton was a big Christian.
00:51:01.000He wrote more on biblical prophecy and Isaiah than he did even about science.
00:51:06.000Even Sir Francis Bacon, he believed science was to understand that there's a natural design, natural law, and we must explore it and understand it and improve the human condition in the natural world.
00:51:18.000It changed in the 1850s with the Germans who were responsible for basically everything bad over the last 200 years.
00:51:25.000And they said, wait a second, why don't we change nature using our will?
00:51:30.000And understand, science can be broken into two different categories today.
00:51:34.000Are you trying to understand the natural world to advance human flourishing to the advancement of God's glory with humility that you did not create the world, but you're trying to understand it to allow human beings to live longer and better lives?
00:53:22.000I was, you know, my grandparents immigrated here.
00:53:26.000They taught me and showed me all about communism, all about the horrors of communism.
00:53:34.000And I see a very dangerous parallel that we as a country seem to be very close to where they were in Russia in 1916.
00:53:44.000Right before the Russian Revolution, right before the Bolsheviks.
00:53:49.000And what I see in the church is, frankly, a castration of men that would be willing to stand up and yay, even die to stop a massive evil incursion.
00:54:08.000And I think that it's rooted in this thought that the church, that God has a plan and that, you know, he's going to go and we'll probably be raptured anyway.
00:55:21.000Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time.
00:55:26.000The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators.
00:56:17.000He said, hey, go have fun with your buddy Lenin.
00:56:20.000There's another part of this, though, that I want to emphasize, which is the reason why the Russian Revolution stuck, because they tried many times previously, right?
00:56:28.000That was not the first time the communists tried to take over Russia.
00:56:31.000One of the reasons why it tried is because there was serious economic suffering happening in Russia.
00:56:37.000And that is the buried lead of what is happening in America right now.
00:56:41.000You have an entire generation of 20-somethings that cannot afford to buy a home.
00:56:46.000You are creating 50 million Russian serfs that will explode.
00:57:09.000I know people don't like hearing that, but you try to buy a home right now in Metro Phoenix with $200,000 in student loan debt, earning $60,000 a year to go buy an $850,000 starter home in Scottsdale.
00:57:57.000But that doesn't mean that the church in America always thrives, and it doesn't mean that America always thrives.
00:58:02.000So we can believe that God's going to come and redeem his people and still have concerns about whether or not our nation is going to stand strong.
00:58:10.000One of the things that I tell people all the time, and I saw this in Ukraine as well when I visited some of the churches in the old city there.
00:58:18.000And beautiful buildings and beautiful buildings.
00:58:39.000That same threat is in danger here in America.
00:58:42.000If we can't get, you know, if we can't start reaching younger generations, if we can't reach millennial and Gen Z, I just finished a compilation book this last year with Dr. George Barna and Sam Rodriguez, a bunch of others called Helping Millennials Thrive.
00:58:56.000I don't have any with me, but great resource if you want to write down the title and check that out, especially for people that you have an influence in that sphere.
00:59:04.000And we have to be able to offer this generation more than just communism bad.
00:59:13.000We have to be able to recognize that they have ideas and gifts that are meaningful, but they need steered and corrected.
00:59:21.000And they need policies that can actually help them thrive.
00:59:24.000And that we don't have that right now.
00:59:26.000What we're seeing are things that, you know, the dollar has lost so much value.
00:59:29.000All these things, they're just, they're very powerless to get out of that.
00:59:33.000That is going to produce a lot of resentment, and it's going to eventually have the potential to be the kind of that revolution mindset.
00:59:40.000I think we're already seeing some of that today.
00:59:43.000I've worn this with conservative Republicans the last five years.
00:59:46.000There's a volcano that's going to erupt because you're going to have 50 million young people that are not married and don't have kids and they own nothing and they're not happy.
01:00:04.000I'm not really quite sure how to phrase it, but so there's such a stronghold on Native Americans.
01:00:10.000You know, they obviously live as victims from the past of Christianity, what has been like happened in the past.
01:00:18.000And I get asked the question, like, you know, how do you serve a God when they did so much to our people?
01:00:24.000And that's a stronghold that they have on the Navajo Reservation.
01:00:27.000And the Navajo Reservation is obviously the biggest reservation in the United States.
01:00:31.000And their votes actually have an effect on Arizona and like, you know, their Senate, state, everything.
01:00:38.000And so my question is that the stronghold really puts a lot of fear on the churches for them to stand up for the truth because that's thrown in our face.
01:00:48.000And quite frankly, I don't really under like know how to answer that.
01:00:52.000But my question to you is: how can we as Christians in a native like Navajo Nation or other reservations to bring something like Freedom Nights, you know, to encourage other churches to stand up for the truth?
01:01:06.000And because we have no one on the reservation, we have our own government, we have our own presidents, we have at least a hundred sorry, they're like, it just slipped my mind.
01:01:18.000So there's like seats, they're like different council, yeah, council delegates.
01:01:35.000So now Planned Parenthood is trying to come to the reservation.
01:01:38.000And I feel like, you know, as Christians, we need to unite.
01:01:42.000You know, God will always be faithful.
01:01:44.000And I just want to know, like, any encouragement or suggestions on how to bring it to the reservations here in the United States and like up in the northern plains, there's so much of drug addiction and there's a lot of...
01:02:15.000I went to Shiprock, New Mexico, which is a very native area, with Donald Trump Jr. in the 2016 campaign.
01:02:24.000And we had like 2,000 people show up, and it was incredibly powerful and depressing because I've never seen poverty like that.
01:02:32.000And I've been to the third world in our own country every if you haven't been to a native reservation, and I'm not saying this is a way to make you feel sorry or anything, you would agree.
01:02:40.000There is some very, very poor, depressing parts.
01:02:44.000I would love the dialogue offline, but you have a big fight because you're a Christian.
01:03:27.000God only needs one person to be obedient, to stand up, and to bring the truth to see something change.
01:03:34.000And so, you know, we saw 12 people literally change the face of the world forever.
01:03:41.000And they all went, the reason they did that was not because they band together for the whole time.
01:03:45.000They went out in a bunch of individual areas and one person, you know, went to each place and they literally gave their lives for the cause and the world was changed, you know, for the gospel.
01:03:55.000I've spent a little time on reservations.
01:03:59.000I've got a great story about cannonball, North Dakota.
01:04:03.000I was assaulted, struck at by a rattlesnake, knocked unconscious.
01:04:10.000And I'll tell you what, like, if there was an opportunity to go back and preach the gospel again, I would do it in a heartbeat.
01:04:16.000But I think that, you know, what Charlie said is right, that there is a need for this, to me, in some ways, it's almost more exciting, and I'm more optimistic about what the gospel can do there, because there is a faith that is still, I think, held by a lot of the people, even though it might be paganism.
01:04:38.000It's easier to convert somebody who is pagan than somebody who's godless.
01:04:43.000And so, and this is what we have to focus on.
01:04:45.000And so, like, I'm thinking about Paul's message, you know, in Acts where he's talking about the unknown God.
01:04:52.000And, you know, really that, let me tell you about this unknown God that you worship and let me tell you his true identity.
01:04:57.000And we need kind of that spirit to happen there.
01:05:00.000But my prayer for you, and again, I would be happy to stop by the table if we can do anything for you and get resources your way.
01:05:06.000Would love to know more about this to support that.
01:05:09.000But my prayer for you is that God just raises up you and an army of people like you that have the ability to go into those places and really bring hope and truth because they're beautiful people, beautiful customs.
01:05:20.000And I think that they are ripe for opportunity to receive the gospel.
01:05:26.000But it's that Marxist substructure of oppressor versus oppressed that's worked its way in.
01:05:31.000You see the BLM signs there and everything else.
01:05:33.000We have to eradicate that and have to, they need help seeing that that's actually preventing their prospering rather than helping them in any way.
01:06:10.000Unless you are a history buff, you don't know what that term means.
01:06:15.000And there are a lot of people, I'm sure there's even people in this room that might not know that term black robe regiment and the kind of the fight that the pastors really led and support for this nation.
01:06:27.000And so I want to be very forward-thinking and not just trying to go backwards in the mission that I have.
01:06:37.000I don't know if that's going to be called Black Robe Regiment 2.
01:06:41.000I mean, that's certainly the spirit of the American Pastor Project.
01:06:44.000I think it's what I'm seeing with the spirit of Turning Point Faith and their pastors' events that they're doing.
01:06:49.000But I want to make sure that we are, like, that we're being what we need to be for this time and space, and that we're not just trying to look backwards, because we cannot recover the past.
01:07:02.000We have to figure out how to move forward.
01:07:04.000And so I probably have a little bit different focus and approach than maybe some of the guys in that space.
01:07:11.000But I think that, you know, and that's because I don't, I mean, here's the deal.
01:07:15.000Tell me one other guy, I just turned 44, who's my age, that has a national platform that's speaking about these issues and is a current pastor in ministry.
01:07:25.000I have a church that's waiting for me to come home.
01:07:33.000I wish that I, I hope I'm not the only guy.
01:07:36.000I just don't have another friend who's my age, who's doing what I'm doing, who's out there in that space.
01:07:42.000Most of the guys are 20 years older than me that are doing this.
01:07:45.000I thank God for them and the mentorship that I've had from them.
01:07:48.000I want to see a guy 20 years younger than me stand up and do this, but we are not reaching my generation, kind of that, you know, I'm sort of either the youngest Gen X or the oldest millennial, and we have to do a better job doing that.
01:08:00.000And I think that that's really going to happen by looking at where we are today rather than just looking to the past on the solution.
01:08:07.000So I don't know if that answered you fully, but I hope so.
01:08:15.000So on the way over here, I was scrolling through Instagram and I saw on a video that Jimmy Fallon, you know, the host of the tonight show, he just made fun of GCU being fined for $39 million because of how they lied to some students about the tuition costs.
01:08:34.000I was just wondering if I can get your thoughts on that.
01:09:47.000So I've been traveling across the United States and I've been looking at the teens and young adult groups.
01:09:53.000So my focus is teens and young adults.
01:09:56.000And I noticed that a lot of the programs are just based around topics that are comfortable.
01:10:02.000So it seems like the young adult and some of the teen groups I've seen around are just the better roses versus people actually knowing that there's a war going on.
01:10:10.000And then also, on the other hand, when I think about my brothers and sisters in Africa, I'm like, yeah, they're fighting, but this war is coming.
01:10:19.000They don't even know how to answer the questions that are coming up.
01:10:22.000So my question for you, and it's for the teens and young adults, but my question for you from a resource standpoint is, do you have a resource that, one, talks about the issues?
01:10:32.000Two, talks about the origins of the issues.
01:10:36.000Three, talks about the proliferation of the issue so we know how far it's spreading.
01:10:41.000Four, talks about the defense or the scriptural standard and the way that we can answer it.
01:10:46.000And then five gives us, teaches us how to communicate with grace and wisdom to the issues we're near.
01:11:30.000But I think that collectively that there are a lot of resources for the issues.
01:11:34.000I mean, certainly Turning Point has just a ton of things.
01:11:38.000They're brilliant at creating, whether it be video content or materials to get in people's hands.
01:11:43.000I think that as far as the big issues of government tyranny, wokeism in general, CRT, doctrinal heresy, and these things, that you're going to find in a book like Woke Jesus.
01:11:57.000My previous book was called The Christian Left.
01:11:59.000I don't have it with me, but that came out about a year before this one and is more about kind of what was happening.
01:12:05.000Well, this is more about the history and why it's happening and kind of what do we do about it.
01:12:14.000But it is going to be a lot more of a focus on where do we go from here.
01:12:19.000Because what you identify with some of these younger groups that they get together, they're hanging out, they have fellowship, but they don't realize that there's a war going on.
01:12:28.000Jesus' disciples, they were the millennial Gen Z generation when he really brought them around himself.
01:12:37.000And I think that we have the ability to, let me say it this way.
01:12:41.000I think that millennials and Gen Z, if they can actually understand what's happening, those that get it, and there's a lot that do, those that get it, those that understand it, those that really solidify themselves with the biblical worldview and their faith in Christ, they have the ability to change the planet more than I think Gen X ever did.
01:13:01.000And I think that we need to support them and find as many ways as we can.
01:13:04.000But we need people like yourself that do get it to really start raising their hand and saying, hey, I'm going to start gathering 10, 12 people around me and disciple these guys, make sure they're showing up in church, make sure the relationships are on track, make sure they're in the word, and really, you know, see that.
01:13:19.000And you will start seeing that movement really change.
01:13:22.000I think this nation, I'm optimistic, cautiously optimistic, but I am optimistic because I think what other choice do we have as Christians?
01:13:30.000We have to believe for that hope while being realistic about the real dangers that are facing and the pressure cooker that does exist.
01:15:01.000If you want to get a shot in the arm and a stimulus of, you know what, our best days are ahead, come and you'll be around 10,000 young people from across the country celebrating liberty, celebrating freedom.
01:15:12.000So, Phoenix Convention Center, you're going to hear me relentlessly promote this for Dream City.