00:02:59.000The second you have to feel the need to pretend that you're perfect, you become a liar and you become paradoxically even less perfect, in my opinion.
00:03:25.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:03:34.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:04:24.000Dave, how's this primary treating you?
00:04:26.000I'm sure that it's been uplifting, fun, you know, and I'm sure you just want it to go on for another two years.
00:04:34.000Well, first off, Charlie, I want to say that no matter what happens in this crazy circus that we are all endlessly sucked into and cannot get out of the orbit of, you and I were friends before all of this, and we will be friends after this, even if temporarily we're on, I don't even want to say opposite sides.
00:04:54.000It seems that we're both, I would say, in different camps in terms of the same.
00:05:02.000And that's also why, and I think you were kind of getting to this in that intro there.
00:05:06.000That's why it's been so disappointing to see the level of craziness, I would say, coming far more out of one side than another, which is defending itself for the most part.
00:05:17.000Because I've really, really been trying.
00:05:20.000And for the people, for your listeners and viewers that watch my show, I have really been trying to stay above the fray to the best of my ability.
00:05:27.000I am not perfect at it, just like you are not perfect at it.
00:05:31.000And often politics brings out the worst in all of us.
00:05:35.000But I think the best we can do right now is fight for the things we believe in and the people that you think can accomplish those things at a political and cultural level.
00:06:57.000I tell people what I think for a living and my life, literally my life and the life of my family and my employees who are in this room and some who work remotely, but many of them who live in Florida and the two companies that I moved to Florida is all enriched by the things that Ron DeSantis has done here in the great state of Florida.
00:07:15.000I don't know that anyone in the entire country left California, fled California more publicly than I did about a year and a half ago to move to the free state of Florida.
00:07:25.000I would say, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
00:07:28.000If you are a, I would say, right-leaning person, meaning you are, let's say, a disaffected liberal or you're a traditional religious conservative or you're a libertarian, something in that, or you're just, I said disaffected liberal, but you're just sort of an old school liberal who's a little confused about what time it is, say like an RFK type.
00:07:48.000You, in essence, should be loving every single thing that Ron DeSantis has done.
00:07:52.000I don't know one thing that Ron DeSantis has not done that we would have wanted him to do.
00:08:04.000We're getting ESG out of our institutions.
00:08:06.000We've done that, which that's actually perhaps the biggest issue that people don't talk about that often because it's kind of in the weeds on how corporations are putting wokeness on all of us.
00:08:15.000I know you talk about it, but the average person doesn't, and they certainly don't in corporate America.
00:08:20.000He has fought the endless racialization of our children by getting rid of this AP African American studies course that was in essence going to teach gender theory.
00:08:28.000We've gotten some of these books that are sexualizing our children out of schools.
00:08:32.000He has done literally everything that anyone right-leaning could believe in or could possibly want to happen.
00:08:40.000I would say he's done one or two things that are a little bit more right-leaning than I would believe.
00:08:50.000So, for example, Charlie, I'll give you one that you agree with DeSantis more than I do, which is the abortion one.
00:08:55.000For me, Florida had 15-week abortion ban, and I've been to every Republican event in the year and a half since I've been here, and I never heard anyone complaining about it.
00:09:05.000DeSantis often said that he personally was pro-life.
00:09:09.000And by the way, it's completely within his jurisdiction as the chief executive of the state, especially when you win by a freaking crazy 1.6 million vote landslide, 20%, to do what you think is right.
00:09:21.000And he has the supermajority in the state Senate to make that happen.
00:11:00.000But if you listen to what DeSantis' words were related to the indictment, he said he would not, on the first indictment, he said he would not extradite him.
00:11:08.000And he's gone out of his way saying he's going to destroy the very agencies.
00:11:11.000I think has been more core in the world.
00:12:48.000So look, if in essence, and we'll pick it up after the break, if in essence your point is, oh, I agree with virtually all of the policies and nobody has accomplished more than this guy and done everything I want to do, but there's a little bit of a marketing issue here.
00:13:06.000The base is very smart, and they're constantly looking in a way of who's going to betray me next.
00:13:13.000This is the advice I gave the DeSantis privately and publicly.
00:13:16.000And right now, the Rubicon has been crossed where they think DeSantis is going to betray him.
00:13:19.000I'm not even saying that's fair, but I'm not saying it's fair.
00:13:22.000Charlie, I mean, Trump has done far more to betray the truth and in a certain way, the respect of the base every time he lies about DeSantis, right?
00:13:33.000So when he lies about COVID and Florida, who was the best governor for COVID in the country?
00:14:09.000Okay, but no, lecturing the base is not how you win a primary.
00:14:12.000And what you're doing is why he's losing, because they want to hear not necessarily the little things Trump got wrong.
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00:15:49.000Like there is something that transcends politics here.
00:15:51.000Well, let me ask you something, because one thing that I've been confused, sort of going off what you said right before the break, was that he's sort of, that DeSantis has like handed this off to that class of people or something.
00:16:02.000Do you, is it your position that Ron DeSantis has anything to do with Karl Rove or Paul Ryan?
00:16:09.000Oh, no, I don't think that's the only thing that's because Donald Trump says that Donald Trump says that repeatedly, and that's what all the tweet people think says that.
00:16:15.000But Dave, I'll be honest, he's acting like.
00:16:37.000And so what I'm not going to do, Dave, is I'm not going to go through every truth social and go through all that with Trump saying that.
00:16:44.000No, no, no, no, we don't have to blood politics.
00:16:48.000Sure, we don't have to go through all of that.
00:16:50.000But it is important, I think, to some degree, because I agree with what you're saying about the base in their passion for Donald Trump and why it's important and shouldn't be ignored.
00:17:00.000And by the way, when I'm frustrated with some of the surrogates, let's say, or some of Trump's behavior lying about Florida and COVID, that sort of thing, that's a direct frustration.
00:17:09.000It's not a frustration with the people that support him.
00:17:12.000But for example, I mean, I have the exact quote right here from DeSantis about a month ago.
00:17:16.000I actually did a little research before I joined you today.
00:17:20.000I have not spoken to Paul Ryan since I was elected governor, and I've met Karl Rove once.
00:17:26.000I really think it's important that your viewers who are the base understand that because if you listen to any of the surrogates and Donald Trump himself, they're implying that he's somehow working with these people and that they are in charge of his campaign and everything else.
00:18:02.000I would say, though, that was a mostly peaceful interview, as we would say.
00:18:05.000But let me just put it with the type of campaign I want DeSantis to run is like Vivek, which is there needs to be a sign of respect towards Trump that I don't feel with from DeSantis.
00:18:32.000Viveka's reading the room that these indictments, the amount of criminalization of Trump really increases people's fervor of the injustice towards him.
00:19:01.000Well, I would say that, first off, just quickly on the Vivek thing, because I don't want to spend too much time on that.
00:19:06.000I mean, it's fairly obvious to anyone paying attention that Trump and Vivek are coordinating, right?
00:19:10.000Vivek is doing endless attacks on DeSantis, no attacks on Trump, and all of the Trump surrogates online, you know who they are, they're always pumping up Vivek because Vivek's going after DeSantis.
00:19:22.000Also, if I was to believe any of the polls, and national polls, by the way, mean absolutely nothing, we're also seven months away from the first primary.
00:19:30.000Like the first primary isn't until January of next year, and everyone's going crazy as if, oh my God, on any given day, like the whole world is going to spin out of control.
00:19:41.000You would never, you would never, if you were so confident of your lead, you would never spend all day attacking the number two guy.
00:19:48.000So that's just a little insider political jockeying however I will agree with you that in terms of some of the strategy of the rollout, they probably should have been more aggressive.
00:20:11.000I mean, he certainly is, you know, no one that you would call a traditional conservative by any stretch.
00:20:16.000I would love to see him go on the view, sit directly with those women and call out their endless lies about Florida.
00:20:22.000You know, Anna Navarro, who lives in Miami, who rails against Florida every day.
00:20:27.000He should sit right next to her and call her out.
00:20:30.000So if your question is really, do you want to take some of the anger that the base has because of the way Trump's being treated and he's being treated horribly?
00:20:44.000But I would also say to some extent, if you just want to view this, if you just want to view this in the political lens, maybe this is why Trump should stop lying about DeSantis every which way.
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00:24:46.000Prisha Mosley is a 25-year-old North Carolina woman who is suing the doctors who aided her sex change.
00:24:52.000According to Prisha, these doctors approved cross-sex hormones and a double mastectomy after consultation as brief as two minutes.
00:24:58.000They also told her taking testosterone shots would allow her to, quote, grow a penis.
00:25:03.000In reality, Prisha was just a 15-year-old battling depression, anxiety, and anorexia.
00:25:08.000Her parents fought against her transition, but were steamrolled by enablers, posing as medical professionals.
00:25:13.000Prisha and Josh, welcome to the program.
00:25:16.000I understand there's some legal sensitivities around all this.
00:25:19.000And so, Prisha, tell us in your own words your story and why you're pursuing a lawsuit.
00:25:26.000So, my story is that I was a very troubled teenage girl.
00:25:32.000I had a very sudden, hard, and strong puberty.
00:25:36.000And basically, my body grew faster than my brain.
00:25:40.000I started receiving attention from boys and men who just wanted to touch me.
00:25:49.000And then at 14, I actually experienced a sexual assault, which led to a miscarriage and totally divorced me from womanhood.
00:25:59.000And then at 15, I was online in the pro-ANA community, and that's a self-harm community where people have anorexia and enable each other.
00:26:12.000And transgender adults came into the community and started telling us that we couldn't eat because we were born in the wrong body and we were boys.
00:26:22.000And eventually, you know, after hearing an onslaught of this for so long and proof, you know, I ended up believing it.
00:27:30.000As we allege in the complaint, Prisha is seeking justice because she feels that she was deceived and misled into a medicalized gender transition of being placed on what they call cross-sex hormone therapy,
00:27:48.000which in actuality is injecting large amounts of testosterone, the male hormone, into her female body, and also having her healthy breasts removed by a plastic surgeon at age 18 after she was put on the testosterone at age 17.
00:28:08.000And Prisha is suing the doctors and the counselors who were involved in leading her down this path.
00:28:17.000And the tragedy of it is that it happened and Prisha was left with her mental health issues unresolved, contrary to the promises that were made that these medical interventions would, in fact, cure her mental health problems and issues, and that they were a treatment for those mental health issues.
00:28:41.000But as alleged in the complaint, that did not happen.
00:28:45.000Prisha was left with her mental health still untreated and unresolved and with additional significant mental and emotional injuries.
00:28:57.000And of course, the physical injuries that were brought about by her being on testosterone for years and without her body parts.
00:29:07.000So I just need to editorialize for a second.
00:29:10.000There are thousands, if not tens of thousands, of other young people that are now walking into the same circumstances that Prisha was nine years ago.
00:29:19.000So Prisha, can you, and to the best of your ability, and obviously feel free to answer this how you see fit given the pending lawsuit, can you walk through some of the promises that were made to you by medical professionals as when you started to take testosterone or go through some of these mutilation procedures?
00:29:42.000I was promised male puberty and instead I got menopause.
00:29:48.000I was promised the idea of a normal functioning male body because I had a male brain and also aligning them would cure all of my mental health problems because the idea was that everything was caused by having a brain and body misalignment.
00:30:08.000I was promised that I would grow a penis when I went to my pediatric endocrinologist and complained of pain down there, you know, due to the injections.
00:30:24.000She was like, yeah, that's male puberty.
00:30:29.000And so this was nine years ago when you started this process.
00:30:34.000At what point did you start to feel regret or questioning what the medical professionals were telling you?
00:30:45.000It took a very long time to get out of the delusion, you know, and also get out of denial, even once I began to feel that, because, you know, it's such an investment to make and it's such a big loss if you accept that it was for nothing.
00:31:02.000But I made my video where I came out last fall.
00:31:09.000And that's really when things began to turn around for me.
00:31:13.000But to be honest, I'm as I'm working through things and my mental health, I'm still uncovering memories and my health continues to change and deteriorate and it's not going well.
00:31:29.000Can you add, so nine years later, you have ongoing health issues.
00:31:34.000So let me ask Josh, what are the potential damages that you are asking for here in the public complaint?
00:31:43.000Yes, as we allege in the complaint, Prisha suffered physical harm, mental and emotional harm, and she's seeking, as you say, the legal term is monetary damages to make her whole and to try to piece her life back together in a way that involves some kind of thriving and flourishing,
00:32:10.000even though Prisha realizes she can't go back and have her young, youthful, healthy body back.
00:32:25.000And she is seeking damages from these defendants, but it's about holding them accountable and trying to prevent this tragedy from happening to anyone else and sending that message.
00:32:38.000These lawsuits are so important, and these mutilators need to be sued into the ninth circle of hell.
00:32:43.000Josh, let me ask you, what is the precedent here?
00:32:46.000I'm guessing these kind of lawsuits are somewhat new now that we have this wave of once adolescents, now adults that are having serious regret.
00:32:55.000Is there case law that is a precedent here, decisions, settlements, or are you guys kind of on the frontier, especially in the state of North Carolina, with this complaint?
00:33:06.000As far as we know, this is the first case of its kind in North Carolina, and there are only a few of these cases nationwide.
00:33:16.000And our firm, Campbell Miller-Payne, was founded this year to serve individuals like Prisha who believe they have been harmed.
00:33:24.000And we have other cases in the works, including a case that was filed on Friday in Texas.
00:33:33.000So people are coming forward like Prisha.
00:33:36.000They are explaining that what happened to them is not okay, that it involved deception and that they were misled into a medicalized path.
00:33:48.000And they are seeking justice to hold their health care providers accountable and to try to prevent this tragedy from happening to anyone else.
00:33:57.000So the cases are new, but of course, we're drawing on a familiar legal claim in terms of deception and medical malpractice.
00:34:09.000And for parents out there, I hope this is just a warning for you.
00:34:14.000We do not know to the extent, but rough estimations are that tens of thousands, potentially hundreds of thousands of young kids are engaging in this form of medical mutilation in some way, shape, or form.
00:34:35.000And I want to just read more of the tweet that I sent out.
00:34:39.000One of Prisha's counselors, Dr. Martha Perry, even met in her dietician's office to keep the meeting secret from her parents.
00:34:48.000Now, nine years later, Prisha has been physically mutilated with a deep masculine voice, facial hair, damaged vagina, pain in her neck and shoulders, and missing breasts.
00:34:58.000She will most likely never be able to have children.
00:35:02.000Prisha's story should never have happened.
00:35:05.000Every state in the country should ban these child mutilating procedures, but those bans might be thrown out by certain judges, so we need a backup plan.
00:35:13.000Every red state should also pass laws making it easier for patients to sue these quote-unquote doctors who tore up their bodies and exploited their teenage vulnerability to turn a profit.
00:35:25.000We must end childhood mutilation in America.
00:35:28.000I'll just say this: for years, I was lectured by neoconservatives that female genital mutilation in the Middle East is wrong, only for us to bring it here and call it trans affirming therapy.
00:35:42.000Prisha, I want to ask: I know that you were estranged from your parents for seven years, but you're now reconciling with them.
00:35:48.000What are your advice for parents that might be currently be pressured for their children to take these treatments or therapies?
00:35:56.000So, this is where I teach the message of validation versus affirmation.
00:38:02.000And I just have like lowered pain tolerance, it feels like.
00:38:08.000Pretty much, I feel like every part of my body has changed.
00:38:12.000Even the texture of my skin and hair is no longer me or mine.
00:38:17.000Looking back when you were a teenager and you considered doing this, do you feel as if that your parents were involved in the decision-making process or were they somewhat shut out?
00:38:30.000I mean, I recall the appointment, the brief appointment with the gender therapist who gave me my letter of recommendation for testosterone.
00:38:40.000My father looked like he was in shock, and my mother was just like weeping, weeping.
00:38:46.000And I found out recently that when they chased her out of the room, when she was crying, they said, It's time to be happy about a boy.
00:38:58.000They also asked them in front of me, would you rather have a dead daughter or a living son?
00:39:52.000There are tens of thousands, soon to be hundreds of thousands of children that will have irreversibly medically mutilated themselves under this idea of gender-affirming care.