00:00:00.000Hey everybody, Tana Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000Isabelle Brown, former Turning Point USA chapter leader, is taking the internet by storm, talking about why young women should reject hookup culture.
00:00:08.000Marjorie Taylor Green on why we need to declare war on the Mexican drug cartels and more.
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00:01:40.000So I want to play this piece of tape here and then talk about you going on this whatever thing.
00:01:45.000Literally, it's called whatever and talk about young ladies in general because it segues beautifully to something we talked about yesterday.
00:02:07.000A, create new human life, which I think our society has forgotten about.
00:02:10.000B, emotionally bond with the person that you're having with.
00:02:13.000That's what your brain is designed to do.
00:02:15.000Every time that you have sexual intercourse, your brain releases oxytocin and it makes you feel emotionally bonded to that person, which is why hookup culture is so damaging because it's not transactional.
00:02:24.000It's not supposed to be transactional.
00:02:27.000I think that line of thinking is what's led to an extremely pro-abortion culture.
00:02:31.000I think that's what's led to an extremely pro-hookup culture.
00:02:34.000I think that's what's led to women being stuck in this zone and men being stuck in a zone of not being able to have a meaningful connection.
00:02:46.000Thank you so much for having me, Charlie.
00:02:48.000It's a pleasure to be back on the show.
00:02:50.000I was very fortunate several months ago to be a guest on the whatever podcast, which has been going very viral on social media because of clips just like this one, mostly purporting women being cycling in this OnlyFans and hookup and pornography culture that is so damaging to the women of our generation.
00:03:08.000I had the unique opportunity to be surrounded by people who fundamentally disagreed with my worldview, but was very profoundly surprised to find that most of these women were just lacking the opportunity to have been told the truth in their life.
00:03:21.000They'd never been challenged on their beliefs of abortion or hookup culture or even pornography and OnlyFans.
00:03:27.000And just being willing to sit down and have the conversation was so powerful to reach millions of people in clips just like this one.
00:04:25.000It is extremely anti-marriage or family.
00:04:28.000And so, having the opportunity to bring a countercultural narrative and objective truth to the women of our generation who are also non-coincidentally skewing overwhelmingly to the left has never been more important than it is today.
00:04:40.000The young woman in the pink sweater who I was talking to in that video admitted to being a former recovering sex addict on the panel.
00:04:48.000We also had an active OnlyFans creator and another woman who was actively shooting pornography videos as a part of this conversation.
00:04:55.000But when you start asking the right questions and you peel back some layers of defensive anger there, what's really fascinating to me is every single woman sitting around that table eventually came to agree with me that modern feminism was destroying women's happiness, that we should all be quitting our hormonal birth control pills because it's poisoning us and destroying our body's ability to function correctly, and that hookup culture was making them feel really empty and lonely inside.
00:05:20.000So being willing to talk to people who might disagree with you is really the only way that we're able to change culture from the inside out.
00:05:27.000Yeah, and to their credit, they allow disagreement on their show.
00:05:31.000And to your credit, you did a great job.
00:05:33.000So let's kind of elaborate on part of this.
00:05:40.000You did this at Colorado State and Fort Collins a lot with our Turning Point USA chapter.
00:05:44.000And it just so happens, Isabelle, I was surrounded by almost all women.
00:05:48.000Now, they wouldn't tell me they were women because I asked them what a woman was and they said that we don't play your trick games.
00:05:54.000Really a sad state of modern academia.
00:05:57.000Isabelle, but why is it that young ladies are skewing so disproportionately liberal?
00:06:03.000And interestingly, almost all the support, there were young ladies that supported me there at NAU, but the men, they were totally on board for what I was.
00:06:10.000So explain that divide because it's only, it's only deepening.
00:06:15.000It has, and it's getting crazier as we get closer to the 2024 election, Charlie.
00:06:19.000Some recent polling came out that said the vast majority of Gen Z college-aged men are skewing very conservative, while the exact opposite is true for women.
00:06:28.000And I think a lot of that has to do with traditionally how we have communicated conservative and traditional values.
00:06:35.000The facts don't care about your feelings mantra worked really, really well to attract millennials to the conservative movement and to traditional values.
00:06:43.000But Gen Z is a very empathy-driven generation.
00:06:46.000We think about our feelings quite a bit.
00:06:48.000And maybe that has something to do with how we were educated with SEL social emotional learning classes.
00:06:53.000Or maybe it's because you're directly connected to the entire world, to any person on the other side of the globe, but with the click of one button, but empathy and feelings first really seems to be a powerful way to communicate values on either side of the aisle to Gen Z.
00:07:07.000So when we can ask a young woman, do you really care about a woman experiencing an unexpected pregnancy, for example?
00:07:14.000Or do you really care about women having the same rights and the same opportunities as men in society?
00:07:20.000Well, if you answer yes to any of those questions, really the only way for you to live your life is to embrace conservative values or traditional principles.
00:07:27.000It's a much more effective way of communicating those ideas.
00:07:30.000And I think we're playing a little bit of catch up there going into 2024, but I'm overjoyed to see so many Gen Z conservative creators really start to make headway in that space for young women in particular.
00:07:42.000I couldn't care less about people's feelings.
00:07:44.000In fact, I find that anyone who cares about feelings to be weak and it's completely irrelevant.
00:07:48.000Reason is what should dictate our politics.
00:07:50.000So how do we square that with conservative values?
00:07:53.000Again, you're Gen Z, Isabel, so I'm going to exclude you.
00:07:56.000Finally, there's a generation that America hates more than millennials and it's Gen Z because, you know, every bad joke was towards millennials when I was growing up.
00:08:04.000So, you know, the young men seem to be okay about feelings, but I was talking to a lot of these young ladies on campus and you're right.
00:08:11.000I said, where do you get your morality from?
00:08:21.000It absolutely is, but there's no reason to believe that reason and logic cannot coexist with feelings.
00:08:27.000Ultimately, we are human beings made in the image of God, right, Charlie?
00:08:30.000And ultimately, our emotions are what give us a soul, our ability to find the humanity in other people and connect on that shared basis of humanity through empathy is how we are supposed to find relationship with others.
00:08:43.000I have found it abundantly successful communicating to the peers of my generation, learning more from this feelings-first communication style to tie it in with reason rather than beating them over the head with this is objective fact and you have to agree or else.
00:08:58.000Tying in that humanistic side of things is a fantastic, very effective way of communicating objective truth and conservative principles, which our generation desperately needs to hear now more than ever.
00:09:09.000And I think there's a lot to be said about Gen Z not being the brunt of everyone's joke.
00:09:13.000There is nothing but reason to have hope for Generation Z.
00:09:17.000We are overwhelmingly an independently thinking generation.
00:09:20.000We are overwhelmingly entrepreneurial and starting to reject the broken four-year university system.
00:09:26.000We're voting more conservative over time.
00:09:28.000If you look at exit pollings from 2018 to 2020, to 2022, we're starting to get married younger.
00:09:33.000We're dating or ditching our dating apps and more.
00:09:36.000So lots of reasons to have hope and excitement for a generation who may think a little bit differently and communicate a little bit differently, but are hungry for purpose, objective truth, and these traditional principles that we know and love in the conservative movement.
00:12:12.000So, Isabel, here's where I not only am I a man and I try to just think with reason and feelings are largely irrelevant, but also I'm not of Gen Z.
00:12:21.000So when I start talking about abortion with young Gen Z women, I might as well be on Neptune there on Mars.
00:12:41.000It's a top one issue for many young female voters on either side of the coin, by the way.
00:12:46.000Pro-life Gen Zers are incredibly outspoken, labeling ourselves the pro-life or post-Roe generation, which is really exciting to see.
00:12:53.000I was really fortunate to do a speaking tour on college campuses last spring talking about this issue and the lies that the pro-abortion industry is telling our generation, including that men can have babies or that birth control is going to set you free, but mainly that abortion is the most empowering thing to women and that it's vital health care.
00:13:12.000We objectively know that from a reason, logic, and fact perspective.
00:13:16.000But where we can communicate that reason, logic, and facts often starts with saying women are in a situation of crisis, most often when they are seeking an abortion.
00:13:24.000Maybe they feel financially unprepared to handle a pregnancy.
00:13:28.000Maybe they think that their autonomy is being taken away.
00:13:32.000But if we really care about that woman and we have empathy or positive feelings towards her and want to make her life better, the only way we can truly help her is not by adding more trauma to the situation, which always happens with abortion through ending the life of her child and maybe even risking her own life, not to mention making it up to six times more likely for her to commit suicide later on in her life, according to one European study.
00:13:55.000So communicating that sense of humanity, that sense of empathy and saying, we're here to walk with you.
00:14:02.000Let's help you pay your mortgage or your rent.
00:14:04.000Let's cover your prenatal costs, all of which are things that the pro-life movement is doing every day out of selflessness, empathy, and humanity, but often don't get to be a part of the conversation because we're so focused on fact, fact, fact.
00:14:16.000So for a young female activist that might be experiencing a lot of backlash or condemnation for their pro-life beliefs, walk through some of your biography, why it's necessary to speak truth despite all the opposition.
00:14:34.000I have been called every horrible name in the book, Charlie, as you know, and you've experienced as well, starting on my college campus, which I talk a lot about in my first book, all the way to being professionally harassed online as a content creator now.
00:14:47.000But the truth is the backlash and the hatred that you get from this world, especially when you are committed to speaking objective truth, often means you are walking in exactly the right direction.
00:14:57.000Well, before I am ever a conservative, well, before I ever speak about political issues, I am a Christian, and I believe it's my job and my responsibility every day to get up and tell people the truth because the truth has a name and that is Jesus Christ.
00:15:10.000But we are promised over and over again from Jesus Christ himself that we are going to be hated.
00:15:17.000We might lose our safety or even our life for being committed to sharing the truth with a world rejecting that very concept.
00:15:23.000But that's okay because this world is not our home.
00:15:26.000The next one is, and we're called to try to make this one a little bit more like heaven.
00:15:30.000If finding the humanity in every single person, namely on this very important issue of abortion that has taken away one third of our generation that should be here today and sadly isn't simply because of the abortion industry alone is a great way to get there, then there's no greater honor than getting called all of those horrible names in the book.
00:15:50.000Isabelle, plug your live stream and your social media as we close out.
00:15:54.000We go live every single day on my long-form social media and video platforms to talk about the biggest cultural issues from a Gen Z perspective, just like this one.
00:16:02.000And you can follow me on social media at TheIsabelle Brown.
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00:17:15.000Welcome back, Marjorie Taylor Greene, to the program.
00:17:18.000Marjorie, thank you for taking time today.
00:17:20.000I want to first give you an opportunity, Marjorie, to tell us about a declaration of war against the cartels, a piece of legislation that you're putting forward.
00:17:29.000If I'm misunderstanding, please correct me, but the floor is yours.
00:17:32.000Charlie, today in Washington, D.C., we have President Zelensky came to the Capitol today, of course, talking to leaders with Washington, wanting billions and billions more dollars, Americans' hard-earned tax dollars, to go to a war in Ukraine defending Ukraine's border, while at the same time, Washington, D.C. is completely ignoring the invasion happening at our border.
00:17:57.000There has been over 10,000 people invade Eagle Pass in the last 24 hours.
00:18:06.000And who is leading the attack, Charlie, is the Mexican cartels.
00:18:10.000And so I'm announcing on your show that I would like to get Washington to realize who our real enemy is to the American people, who's responsible for 300 Americans dying every single day from fentanyl, who's responsible for a multi-billion dollar human trafficking and drug trafficking industry that directly affects the United States of America.
00:18:33.000And that is the Mexican cartels, not the Mexican government, not the Mexican people.
00:18:39.000So I am currently drafting a declaration of war against the Mexican cartels.
00:18:44.000And I'd like to challenge anyone in Washington that beats the drums of war and beats their chest about fighting Russia to wake up and realize the oath of office they took is to the United States and the American people and to defend our borders.
00:19:00.000And if they want to talk big like that, then they should defend our country.
00:19:06.000And that is what the Defense Department is all about is defending America, defending Americans in our states.
00:19:15.000And they are failing on the job poorly, very, very poorly.
00:19:20.000And what is nauseating, Marjorie, you have to serve with them is so many Republicans seem infatuated with Zelensky and they couldn't care less that yesterday, and we have the B-roll here, thousands and thousands of fighting age young men, not DNA tested, not background checked.
00:19:36.000We don't know who these people are, just waltzing right into America to invade the country.
00:19:41.000Can you give me, help me understand why do so many Republicans not care about America, but they care about a foreign country that most Americans can't pick out on a map?
00:19:56.000Some of them tell me that, well, we made an agreement with Ukraine years ago when they got rid of their nuclear weapons that we would help defend that country.
00:20:49.000No, I'm confused why Republicans have such indifference to the well-being of America, and yet they bring out the pom-poms for an uppity foreigner in a t-shirt.
00:22:05.000Our country sends so much foreign aid to those countries they come from.
00:22:08.000We could have solved all their country's problems years ago, but it gets pocketed into their corrupt administrations and dictators' pockets.
00:22:17.000And then they send all their people to our country.
00:22:31.000Today, we have an impeachment inquiry, and many members of Congress and the American people believe that Joe Biden should be impeached.
00:22:40.000So this may seem outrageous today, but I'm going to tell you, I guarantee, just like you support it and your viewers support this, many Americans will support this because they know who the true enemy is.
00:22:52.000Whether you live in Texas, whether you live in New York, whether you live in California, wherever you live in the country, we are getting overrun with people invading our country and it's unsustainable.
00:23:58.000And I said, no money for the weaponized government.
00:24:00.000I've told them all week long I'm not voting for Ukraine funding and I voted down the rule for the defense appropriation bill and I'll continue to do it until they get it out.
00:24:09.000Here's where we stand on the special counsels.
00:24:11.000I've introduced an amendment and I have legislation that will rightfully return the responsibility to Congress to fund special counsels.
00:24:20.000It takes it away from the Department of Justice.
00:24:23.000So for anyone watching at home right now, we cannot defund Jack Smith special counsel as it stands right now because that is the Department of Justice holds the slush fund for special counsels.
00:24:37.000My amendment, my legislation, if the rest of my colleagues would agree to it, will return, and it's constitutional, return the authority to Congress to fund special counsels.
00:24:49.000And that's our only hope for stopping Jack Smith special counsel, for getting rid of David Weiss, who's doing nothing but protecting Hunter Biden.
00:24:59.000So I'm fighting for that up here, and I'll keep fighting for it.
00:25:04.000But what we'll have going into September 30th, Charlie, is a gigantic mess.
00:25:09.000What I hear this morning is that we have a group called the Problem Solvers.
00:25:13.000It's a group mixed of Republicans and Democrats who are all talking with the entire Democrat conference, making a CR plan that would fund the government for like 60 days.
00:25:27.000I think it does something on the border, but not enough for any of us.
00:25:31.000It does do maybe a 1% cut in spending.
00:25:35.000This is something I will not vote for.
00:25:37.000Many Republicans, most Republicans probably will not vote for it, but that is something that is being talked about.
00:25:44.000The Senate right now is working on a clean CR to send over to the House.
00:25:50.000And then we still have the Byron Donalds CR, which still has funding for Ukraine in it.
00:25:56.000I don't care how many times Byron Donald's tries to tell people it doesn't have Ukraine money, it does.
00:26:01.000It's called the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, and that's the same money that's in the defense bill right now.
00:26:09.000So I'm a no on that CR, and it also doesn't do anything about the weaponized government.
00:26:14.000What I can tell you, Charlie, is we are at basically a week of wasted time trying to buy four more weeks to pass our appropriation bills when we should have been here all August and gotten our jobs done.
00:26:28.000Whose decision was it to take an August recess that made French workers look like industrial commitment?
00:26:35.000I mean, it's like the country's falling apart and you guys took like a six-week vacation.
00:26:57.000The only thing that we can do in the Republican conference is do what the American people do back home, and that is get to work.
00:27:05.000And so we had an over two-hour conference meeting last night where everybody went up to the microphone and said what they thought and talked about what they wanted to do.
00:27:14.000And I stood up there again, Charlie, and I told them, I'm not voting for Ukraine funding.
00:27:19.000I'm not voting for the weaponized government and I'm not voting for COVID anything.
00:27:24.000And we have to do something about the border.
00:27:26.000And the bill still came to the floor this morning with Ukraine money in it.
00:27:30.000So the only thing we can do is get back in the room and argue with each other until we can get things right and find some way to move forward.
00:27:39.000But right now, we can't find any way to move forward.
00:27:41.000But if I were to be honest, this whole thing is a mess.
00:27:43.000I mean, you guys had all summer to figure this out.
00:28:40.000We're at $33 trillion and it's the overspending in Washington that got us here.
00:28:45.000But in our conference meeting, they were arguing about multiple different top-line spending numbers.
00:28:49.000And all the numbers that they were arguing over were all cuts in spending.
00:28:54.000So that is something that we should easily be able to come to is the fact that we are cutting spending and we're doing a good job of it with our appropriation bills.
00:29:06.000And I was telling everyone, Charlie, that look, you don't hear people at home yelling their heads off about the difference between $1.42 trillion and $1.56 trillion.
00:29:50.000Why are vaccines causing injuries and deaths?
00:29:53.000These are the issues that Americans are talking about, but those were none of the issues that we were talking about in our conference meeting last night.
00:30:00.000And so that is what I tried to bring up to everyone: yes, we are going to cut spending and we have to, but we can't do anything about the national debt unless we work on it for probably 10 years or more.
00:30:38.000It is a crisis, which is why I'm pointing the finger at who we should be blaming and who we should be declaring war on, which is the Mexican cartels, not the Mexican government, not the Mexican people, not Russia, not any other country.
00:30:54.000It's the cartels who are responsible and they're profiting by the billions for human trafficking and drug trafficking.
00:31:02.000And we can't even find nearly 100,000 migrant children in our country.
00:31:07.000And over in Ukraine, Charlie, by the way, we hadn't even talked about this.
00:31:11.000The country that Mitch McConnell and Schumer and Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton and everybody can't wait to give another $100 billion to.
00:31:22.000Ukraine is one of the worst countries on the earth for child sex trafficking.
00:31:28.000And they're harvesting children's organs over there.
00:31:43.000So we're in such a bad place, Charlie, that I'm willing to be honest about it.
00:31:49.000And we can't fix it until Republicans get focused on the things that our voters actually care about and we get serious about fixing the problem.
00:32:00.000Well, look, and Marjorie, you don't have to say anything about this, but I'm so sick of these people.
00:32:06.000Go back home to your constituents because this is so completely out of control.
00:32:10.000I have contempt for the leaders of the Republican Party that are entertaining this grifter in the jumpsuit, walking around the halls of Congress while we're being invaded.
00:32:39.000We knew that this September 30th deadline was coming from the new Congress in.
00:32:43.000And all of a sudden, we have this like hair on fire moment as if, you know, you got Byron Donald's trying to break a deal and you got Dusty Johnson.