The Charlie Kirk Show - How to Win Gen Z with Isabel Brown and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene

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00:00:01.000 Isabelle Brown, former Turning Point USA chapter leader, is taking the internet by storm, talking about why young women should reject hookup culture.

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00:01:08.000 Joining us now is Isabelle Brown.

00:01:10.000 Isabelle, I will always introduce you as former chapter leader at Colorado State University for Turning Point USA.

00:01:16.000 That's always how I'm going to introduce you.

00:01:17.000 So, Isabelle, always.

00:01:19.000 The most important thing on her bio.

00:01:21.000 Isabelle, I wanted to have you on. 1.00

00:01:22.000 You did a great job on whatever with all of the OnlyFan hookers or whatever that is on there. 0.95

00:01:27.000 You did a really great job.

00:01:28.000 And I want to play one of the pieces of tape here.

00:01:31.000 And Isabelle, you've come on our program a lot.

00:01:33.000 For people that remember back during all the January 6th stuff, I think you were on almost every single day.

00:01:39.000 It was a lot of fun.

00:01:40.000 So I want to play this piece of tape here and then talk about you going on this whatever thing.

00:01:45.000 Literally, it's called whatever and talk about young ladies in general because it segues beautifully to something we talked about yesterday.

00:01:50.000 Let's play Cut 104, please.

00:01:52.000 Do you think that you have a right to?

00:01:55.000 Yeah.

00:01:56.000 What makes you say that? 0.98

00:01:57.000 Because it's my reproductive right.

00:02:00.000 It was given to me to do to have children.

00:02:02.000 What's the purpose of to have children?

00:02:05.000 Arguably, s ⁇ has two purposes.

00:02:07.000 A, create new human life, which I think our society has forgotten about.

00:02:10.000 B, emotionally bond with the person that you're having with.

00:02:13.000 That's what your brain is designed to do.

00:02:15.000 Every time that you have sexual intercourse, your brain releases oxytocin and it makes you feel emotionally bonded to that person, which is why hookup culture is so damaging because it's not transactional.

00:02:24.000 It's not supposed to be transactional.

00:02:26.000 It's supposed to be bonding.

00:02:27.000 I think that line of thinking is what's led to an extremely pro-abortion culture.

00:02:31.000 I think that's what's led to an extremely pro-hookup culture.

00:02:34.000 I think that's what's led to women being stuck in this zone and men being stuck in a zone of not being able to have a meaningful connection.

00:02:43.000 Isabel, elaborate.

00:02:45.000 Floor is yours.

00:02:46.000 Thank you so much for having me, Charlie.

00:02:48.000 It's a pleasure to be back on the show.

00:02:50.000 I was very fortunate several months ago to be a guest on the whatever podcast, which has been going very viral on social media because of clips just like this one, mostly purporting women being cycling in this OnlyFans and hookup and pornography culture that is so damaging to the women of our generation.

00:03:08.000 I had the unique opportunity to be surrounded by people who fundamentally disagreed with my worldview, but was very profoundly surprised to find that most of these women were just lacking the opportunity to have been told the truth in their life.

00:03:21.000 They'd never been challenged on their beliefs of abortion or hookup culture or even pornography and OnlyFans.

00:03:27.000 And just being willing to sit down and have the conversation was so powerful to reach millions of people in clips just like this one.

00:03:34.000 Yeah.

00:03:34.000 So Isabelle, let's just educate our audience that isn't as aware.

00:03:38.000 This is a show called Whatever, right?

00:03:41.000 It has 4 million subscribers. 1.00

00:03:43.000 And basically, it is OnlyFans Girls and pseudo hookers that basically defend hookup culture, free sex. 0.98

00:03:52.000 And they seem, the young ladies on that program seem very angry. 1.00

00:03:56.000 So talk about that. 0.99

00:03:57.000 And their politics are radically left-wing.

00:03:59.000 It's probably one of the more influential shows when it comes to talking about sex and relationship, relationships and all that.

00:04:07.000 So, educate our audience on the impact of that.

00:04:11.000 Absolutely, Charlie.

00:04:12.000 And I will say, just in general, the world of dating podcasts and content like this almost always invariably skews to the radical left.

00:04:20.000 It is extremely pro-transactional sex. 0.63

00:04:23.000 It is extremely pro-dating app.

00:04:25.000 It is extremely anti-marriage or family.

00:04:28.000 And so, having the opportunity to bring a countercultural narrative and objective truth to the women of our generation who are also non-coincidentally skewing overwhelmingly to the left has never been more important than it is today.

00:04:40.000 The young woman in the pink sweater who I was talking to in that video admitted to being a former recovering sex addict on the panel.

00:04:48.000 We also had an active OnlyFans creator and another woman who was actively shooting pornography videos as a part of this conversation.

00:04:55.000 But when you start asking the right questions and you peel back some layers of defensive anger there, what's really fascinating to me is every single woman sitting around that table eventually came to agree with me that modern feminism was destroying women's happiness, that we should all be quitting our hormonal birth control pills because it's poisoning us and destroying our body's ability to function correctly, and that hookup culture was making them feel really empty and lonely inside.

00:05:20.000 So being willing to talk to people who might disagree with you is really the only way that we're able to change culture from the inside out.

00:05:27.000 Yeah, and to their credit, they allow disagreement on their show.

00:05:31.000 And to your credit, you did a great job.

00:05:33.000 So let's kind of elaborate on part of this.

00:05:35.000 So let's put 65 up, Isabel.

00:05:37.000 I went to Northern Arizona University.

00:05:39.000 You're familiar.

00:05:40.000 You did this at Colorado State and Fort Collins a lot with our Turning Point USA chapter.

00:05:44.000 And it just so happens, Isabelle, I was surrounded by almost all women.

00:05:48.000 Now, they wouldn't tell me they were women because I asked them what a woman was and they said that we don't play your trick games.

00:05:54.000 Really a sad state of modern academia. 1.00

00:05:57.000 Isabelle, but why is it that young ladies are skewing so disproportionately liberal?

00:06:03.000 And interestingly, almost all the support, there were young ladies that supported me there at NAU, but the men, they were totally on board for what I was.

00:06:10.000 So explain that divide because it's only, it's only deepening.

00:06:15.000 It has, and it's getting crazier as we get closer to the 2024 election, Charlie.

00:06:19.000 Some recent polling came out that said the vast majority of Gen Z college-aged men are skewing very conservative, while the exact opposite is true for women.

00:06:28.000 And I think a lot of that has to do with traditionally how we have communicated conservative and traditional values.

00:06:35.000 The facts don't care about your feelings mantra worked really, really well to attract millennials to the conservative movement and to traditional values.

00:06:43.000 But Gen Z is a very empathy-driven generation.

00:06:46.000 We think about our feelings quite a bit.

00:06:48.000 And maybe that has something to do with how we were educated with SEL social emotional learning classes.

00:06:53.000 Or maybe it's because you're directly connected to the entire world, to any person on the other side of the globe, but with the click of one button, but empathy and feelings first really seems to be a powerful way to communicate values on either side of the aisle to Gen Z.

00:07:07.000 So when we can ask a young woman, do you really care about a woman experiencing an unexpected pregnancy, for example?

00:07:14.000 Or do you really care about women having the same rights and the same opportunities as men in society?

00:07:20.000 Well, if you answer yes to any of those questions, really the only way for you to live your life is to embrace conservative values or traditional principles.

00:07:27.000 It's a much more effective way of communicating those ideas.

00:07:30.000 And I think we're playing a little bit of catch up there going into 2024, but I'm overjoyed to see so many Gen Z conservative creators really start to make headway in that space for young women in particular.

00:07:41.000 Yeah, so help me out here.

00:07:42.000 I couldn't care less about people's feelings.

00:07:44.000 In fact, I find that anyone who cares about feelings to be weak and it's completely irrelevant.

00:07:48.000 Reason is what should dictate our politics.

00:07:50.000 So how do we square that with conservative values?

00:07:53.000 Again, you're Gen Z, Isabel, so I'm going to exclude you. 1.00

00:07:56.000 Finally, there's a generation that America hates more than millennials and it's Gen Z because, you know, every bad joke was towards millennials when I was growing up.

00:08:04.000 So, you know, the young men seem to be okay about feelings, but I was talking to a lot of these young ladies on campus and you're right.

00:08:11.000 I said, where do you get your morality from?

00:08:12.000 Well, I do.

00:08:13.000 It's how I want to operate.

00:08:13.000 It's what I feel.

00:08:15.000 And this is weaponized narcissism.

00:08:18.000 Correct me if I'm wrong.

00:08:20.000 Walk me through it.

00:08:21.000 It absolutely is, but there's no reason to believe that reason and logic cannot coexist with feelings.

00:08:27.000 Ultimately, we are human beings made in the image of God, right, Charlie?

00:08:30.000 And ultimately, our emotions are what give us a soul, our ability to find the humanity in other people and connect on that shared basis of humanity through empathy is how we are supposed to find relationship with others.

00:08:43.000 I have found it abundantly successful communicating to the peers of my generation, learning more from this feelings-first communication style to tie it in with reason rather than beating them over the head with this is objective fact and you have to agree or else.

00:08:58.000 Tying in that humanistic side of things is a fantastic, very effective way of communicating objective truth and conservative principles, which our generation desperately needs to hear now more than ever.

00:09:09.000 And I think there's a lot to be said about Gen Z not being the brunt of everyone's joke.

00:09:13.000 There is nothing but reason to have hope for Generation Z. 0.97

00:09:17.000 We are overwhelmingly an independently thinking generation.

00:09:20.000 We are overwhelmingly entrepreneurial and starting to reject the broken four-year university system.

00:09:26.000 We're voting more conservative over time.

00:09:28.000 If you look at exit pollings from 2018 to 2020, to 2022, we're starting to get married younger.

00:09:33.000 We're dating or ditching our dating apps and more.

00:09:36.000 So lots of reasons to have hope and excitement for a generation who may think a little bit differently and communicate a little bit differently, but are hungry for purpose, objective truth, and these traditional principles that we know and love in the conservative movement.

00:09:49.000 I think that's well said.

00:09:50.000 And for some of the young ladies I saw in Flagstaff, there was no thinking, only feeling.

00:09:54.000 What issues, and we'll talk after a break. 1.00

00:09:56.000 What's the number one issue for most young female voters on college campuses? 1.00

00:10:00.000 I think most young females are looking for a reason to be proud to be a female today. 1.00

00:10:04.000 Womanhood is under attack from literally every direction in society, Charlie. 0.60

00:10:09.000 And to the point that we can't even be young women anymore.

00:10:12.000 We're being encouraged to run away from it. 0.99

00:10:14.000 Anti-feminism has become feminism, ironically.

00:10:18.000 And where we can start standing up for objective truth and womanhood, I think we have a lot of room to make headway with this generation. 0.72

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00:12:12.000 So, Isabel, here's where I not only am I a man and I try to just think with reason and feelings are largely irrelevant, but also I'm not of Gen Z.

00:12:21.000 So when I start talking about abortion with young Gen Z women, I might as well be on Neptune there on Mars. 1.00

00:12:27.000 So they say it's my body, my choice.

00:12:28.000 How should we navigate that issue, especially? 0.96

00:12:31.000 Because from my experience on campus, that is a top three issue, especially for young, young females. 0.99

00:12:40.000 It absolutely is. 0.97

00:12:41.000 It's a top one issue for many young female voters on either side of the coin, by the way.

00:12:46.000 Pro-life Gen Zers are incredibly outspoken, labeling ourselves the pro-life or post-Roe generation, which is really exciting to see. 0.60

00:12:53.000 I was really fortunate to do a speaking tour on college campuses last spring talking about this issue and the lies that the pro-abortion industry is telling our generation, including that men can have babies or that birth control is going to set you free, but mainly that abortion is the most empowering thing to women and that it's vital health care.

00:13:11.000 And it's just not.

00:13:12.000 We objectively know that from a reason, logic, and fact perspective.

00:13:16.000 But where we can communicate that reason, logic, and facts often starts with saying women are in a situation of crisis, most often when they are seeking an abortion.

00:13:24.000 Maybe they feel financially unprepared to handle a pregnancy.

00:13:28.000 Maybe they think that their autonomy is being taken away.

00:13:30.000 They might be a victim of abuse.

00:13:32.000 But if we really care about that woman and we have empathy or positive feelings towards her and want to make her life better, the only way we can truly help her is not by adding more trauma to the situation, which always happens with abortion through ending the life of her child and maybe even risking her own life, not to mention making it up to six times more likely for her to commit suicide later on in her life, according to one European study.

00:13:55.000 So communicating that sense of humanity, that sense of empathy and saying, we're here to walk with you.

00:14:00.000 Let's raise money for diapers.

00:14:02.000 Let's help you pay your mortgage or your rent.

00:14:04.000 Let's cover your prenatal costs, all of which are things that the pro-life movement is doing every day out of selflessness, empathy, and humanity, but often don't get to be a part of the conversation because we're so focused on fact, fact, fact.

00:14:16.000 So for a young female activist that might be experiencing a lot of backlash or condemnation for their pro-life beliefs, walk through some of your biography, why it's necessary to speak truth despite all the opposition.

00:14:34.000 I have been called every horrible name in the book, Charlie, as you know, and you've experienced as well, starting on my college campus, which I talk a lot about in my first book, all the way to being professionally harassed online as a content creator now.

00:14:47.000 But the truth is the backlash and the hatred that you get from this world, especially when you are committed to speaking objective truth, often means you are walking in exactly the right direction.

00:14:57.000 Well, before I am ever a conservative, well, before I ever speak about political issues, I am a Christian, and I believe it's my job and my responsibility every day to get up and tell people the truth because the truth has a name and that is Jesus Christ.

00:15:10.000 But we are promised over and over again from Jesus Christ himself that we are going to be hated.

00:15:15.000 We're going to be persecuted.

00:15:17.000 We might lose our safety or even our life for being committed to sharing the truth with a world rejecting that very concept.

00:15:23.000 But that's okay because this world is not our home.

00:15:26.000 The next one is, and we're called to try to make this one a little bit more like heaven.

00:15:30.000 If finding the humanity in every single person, namely on this very important issue of abortion that has taken away one third of our generation that should be here today and sadly isn't simply because of the abortion industry alone is a great way to get there, then there's no greater honor than getting called all of those horrible names in the book.

00:15:50.000 Isabelle, plug your live stream and your social media as we close out.

00:15:54.000 We go live every single day on my long-form social media and video platforms to talk about the biggest cultural issues from a Gen Z perspective, just like this one. 0.86

00:16:02.000 And you can follow me on social media at TheIsabelle Brown.

00:16:05.000 Very good.

00:16:05.000 Isabelle, thanks so much.

00:16:07.000 Congrats on all your success.

00:16:08.000 We'll have you back on soon.

00:16:09.000 Thank you.

00:16:10.000 Thanks for having me.

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00:17:15.000 Welcome back, Marjorie Taylor Greene, to the program.

00:17:18.000 Marjorie, thank you for taking time today.

00:17:20.000 I want to first give you an opportunity, Marjorie, to tell us about a declaration of war against the cartels, a piece of legislation that you're putting forward.

00:17:29.000 If I'm misunderstanding, please correct me, but the floor is yours.

00:17:32.000 Charlie, today in Washington, D.C., we have President Zelensky came to the Capitol today, of course, talking to leaders with Washington, wanting billions and billions more dollars, Americans' hard-earned tax dollars, to go to a war in Ukraine defending Ukraine's border, while at the same time, Washington, D.C. is completely ignoring the invasion happening at our border.

00:17:57.000 There has been over 10,000 people invade Eagle Pass in the last 24 hours.

00:18:02.000 This is unprecedented.

00:18:04.000 Our country is under attack.

00:18:06.000 And who is leading the attack, Charlie, is the Mexican cartels.

00:18:10.000 And so I'm announcing on your show that I would like to get Washington to realize who our real enemy is to the American people, who's responsible for 300 Americans dying every single day from fentanyl, who's responsible for a multi-billion dollar human trafficking and drug trafficking industry that directly affects the United States of America.

00:18:33.000 And that is the Mexican cartels, not the Mexican government, not the Mexican people.

00:18:39.000 So I am currently drafting a declaration of war against the Mexican cartels.

00:18:44.000 And I'd like to challenge anyone in Washington that beats the drums of war and beats their chest about fighting Russia to wake up and realize the oath of office they took is to the United States and the American people and to defend our borders.

00:19:00.000 And if they want to talk big like that, then they should defend our country.

00:19:06.000 And that is what the Defense Department is all about is defending America, defending Americans in our states.

00:19:15.000 And they are failing on the job poorly, very, very poorly.

00:19:19.000 Yes, they are.

00:19:20.000 And what is nauseating, Marjorie, you have to serve with them is so many Republicans seem infatuated with Zelensky and they couldn't care less that yesterday, and we have the B-roll here, thousands and thousands of fighting age young men, not DNA tested, not background checked.

00:19:36.000 We don't know who these people are, just waltzing right into America to invade the country. 0.99

00:19:41.000 Can you give me, help me understand why do so many Republicans not care about America, but they care about a foreign country that most Americans can't pick out on a map?

00:19:52.000 What is going on in their head?

00:19:54.000 I can't comprehend it, Charlie.

00:19:56.000 Some of them tell me that, well, we made an agreement with Ukraine years ago when they got rid of their nuclear weapons that we would help defend that country.

00:20:05.000 But here's the situation.

00:20:07.000 We aren't defending our own country.

00:20:09.000 And Charlie, I just said to you that I'm writing a declaration of war against Mexican cartels.

00:20:14.000 You didn't bat an eye.

00:20:16.000 I'm sure you completely agree with me.

00:20:18.000 Of course I do.

00:20:19.000 The fact we haven't done that shouldn't even be controversial.

00:20:23.000 We should have tanks, drones, weapons.

00:20:25.000 We should control our border the way Israel controls their border. 1.00

00:20:28.000 Full military, full outstop.

00:20:30.000 And so I didn't bat an eye because we absolutely should be going after the cartels.

00:20:35.000 We should go after the leaders for war crimes.

00:20:38.000 They're putting, I mean, it shouldn't even be controversial.

00:20:41.000 I'm glad you're doing it, Marjorie.

00:20:42.000 Realistically, it's probably not going to do anything because the Senate's not going to pick it up, but I'm glad you're doing it.

00:20:47.000 I'm just trying to understand why.

00:20:49.000 No, I'm confused why Republicans have such indifference to the well-being of America, and yet they bring out the pom-poms for an uppity foreigner in a t-shirt. 0.98

00:20:49.000 Thank you. 0.98

00:21:00.000 Well, let me explain what's happening today.

00:21:02.000 So we just had a rule vote for the defense appropriation bill.

00:21:07.000 I voted no.

00:21:08.000 I was one of a handful of Republicans.

00:21:10.000 I was deciding vote.

00:21:12.000 I voted no and tanked the rule.

00:21:13.000 And the reason why I tanked the rule is because they refuse to take the money out of the bill that's going to go for the war in Ukraine.

00:21:21.000 And I had been telling everyone for weeks and weeks.

00:21:25.000 I've been saying it since the beginning of this Congress.

00:21:27.000 I will not vote to fund a penny to a war in Ukraine.

00:21:31.000 I told them in our conference meetings.

00:21:33.000 I told them to their faces.

00:21:35.000 I told them over and over and over, I will not vote for this.

00:21:38.000 And they still brought it to the floor.

00:21:40.000 They forced my hand.

00:21:41.000 I voted no like I said I would.

00:21:43.000 And now we're up here arguing up here in Washington about Ukraine money being in the defense bill.

00:21:50.000 And there's many Republicans that just want to keep it in there.

00:21:53.000 In the meantime, completely ignoring the invasion at the southern border.

00:21:57.000 It's an invasion.

00:21:59.000 Stop calling them migrants.

00:22:00.000 Stop saying these people are seeking asylum.

00:22:03.000 That is a complete lie.

00:22:05.000 Our country sends so much foreign aid to those countries they come from.

00:22:08.000 We could have solved all their country's problems years ago, but it gets pocketed into their corrupt administrations and dictators' pockets.

00:22:17.000 And then they send all their people to our country. 1.00

00:22:19.000 Enough of this, Charlie.

00:22:21.000 It has to end.

00:22:22.000 And I'll tell you something.

00:22:23.000 You know, people said it was impossible when I introduced articles of impeachment on Joe Biden's first day in office.

00:22:30.000 And I want to tell you something.

00:22:31.000 Today, we have an impeachment inquiry, and many members of Congress and the American people believe that Joe Biden should be impeached.

00:22:40.000 So this may seem outrageous today, but I'm going to tell you, I guarantee, just like you support it and your viewers support this, many Americans will support this because they know who the true enemy is.

00:22:52.000 Whether you live in Texas, whether you live in New York, whether you live in California, wherever you live in the country, we are getting overrun with people invading our country and it's unsustainable.

00:23:04.000 It is unsustainable.

00:23:05.000 And the true enemy of the American people is the Democrat Party and Rhino Republicans. 0.87

00:23:09.000 So let's walk to the timeline here, Marjorie.

00:23:12.000 And you're fighting.

00:23:13.000 And I'm just, I'm in a little bit of a ticked off mood today.

00:23:15.000 It's not you.

00:23:15.000 I'm just so sick of these people, right?

00:23:17.000 We have to go worship at the fake pagan altar of the Ukrainian abstraction while our country is just invading. 0.99

00:23:23.000 Again, that B-roll.

00:23:24.000 That B-roll is just nonstop.

00:23:26.000 So I want to know, we got nine days to 9.30.

00:23:28.000 What can we expect, Marjorie?

00:23:30.000 And please, just if it's awful news, tell us the awful news.

00:23:33.000 If Don Bacon and Dusty Johnson are just going to do a CR deal to Democrats, it's better for us to know now.

00:23:39.000 Are we going to get Jack Smith funding cut?

00:23:42.000 Are we going to get any border stuff or Ukraine stuff?

00:23:44.000 Walk us through how the next nine days are going to unfold.

00:23:48.000 Charlie, I'm glad to tell you the truth.

00:23:50.000 I came to Washington with three red lines.

00:23:50.000 I always do.

00:23:53.000 I said, no money for Ukraine, no money for COVID, anything.

00:23:56.000 COVID is over.

00:23:58.000 And I said, no money for the weaponized government.

00:24:00.000 I've told them all week long I'm not voting for Ukraine funding and I voted down the rule for the defense appropriation bill and I'll continue to do it until they get it out.

00:24:09.000 Here's where we stand on the special counsels.

00:24:11.000 I've introduced an amendment and I have legislation that will rightfully return the responsibility to Congress to fund special counsels.

00:24:20.000 It takes it away from the Department of Justice.

00:24:23.000 So for anyone watching at home right now, we cannot defund Jack Smith special counsel as it stands right now because that is the Department of Justice holds the slush fund for special counsels.

00:24:37.000 My amendment, my legislation, if the rest of my colleagues would agree to it, will return, and it's constitutional, return the authority to Congress to fund special counsels.

00:24:49.000 And that's our only hope for stopping Jack Smith special counsel, for getting rid of David Weiss, who's doing nothing but protecting Hunter Biden.

00:24:57.000 And that's the only chance we have.

00:24:59.000 So I'm fighting for that up here, and I'll keep fighting for it.

00:25:04.000 But what we'll have going into September 30th, Charlie, is a gigantic mess.

00:25:09.000 What I hear this morning is that we have a group called the Problem Solvers.

00:25:13.000 It's a group mixed of Republicans and Democrats who are all talking with the entire Democrat conference, making a CR plan that would fund the government for like 60 days.

00:25:27.000 I think it does something on the border, but not enough for any of us.

00:25:31.000 It does do maybe a 1% cut in spending.

00:25:35.000 This is something I will not vote for.

00:25:37.000 Many Republicans, most Republicans probably will not vote for it, but that is something that is being talked about.

00:25:44.000 The Senate right now is working on a clean CR to send over to the House.

00:25:50.000 And then we still have the Byron Donalds CR, which still has funding for Ukraine in it.

00:25:56.000 I don't care how many times Byron Donald's tries to tell people it doesn't have Ukraine money, it does.

00:26:01.000 It's called the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, and that's the same money that's in the defense bill right now.

00:26:09.000 So I'm a no on that CR, and it also doesn't do anything about the weaponized government.

00:26:14.000 What I can tell you, Charlie, is we are at basically a week of wasted time trying to buy four more weeks to pass our appropriation bills when we should have been here all August and gotten our jobs done.

00:26:28.000 Whose decision was it to take an August recess that made French workers look like industrial commitment?

00:26:35.000 I mean, it's like the country's falling apart and you guys took like a six-week vacation.

00:26:39.000 Whose decision was that?

00:26:40.000 Well, that's whoever makes up that House calendar.

00:26:43.000 And I certainly am not on that committee and have no control over it.

00:26:48.000 And unfortunately, Charlie, that's water under the bridge.

00:26:50.000 I can complain that we didn't stay here and do it, but it's too late for that too.

00:26:55.000 So here we are in this situation.

00:26:57.000 The only thing that we can do in the Republican conference is do what the American people do back home, and that is get to work.

00:27:05.000 And so we had an over two-hour conference meeting last night where everybody went up to the microphone and said what they thought and talked about what they wanted to do.

00:27:14.000 And I stood up there again, Charlie, and I told them, I'm not voting for Ukraine funding.

00:27:19.000 I'm not voting for the weaponized government and I'm not voting for COVID anything.

00:27:24.000 And we have to do something about the border.

00:27:26.000 And the bill still came to the floor this morning with Ukraine money in it.

00:27:30.000 So the only thing we can do is get back in the room and argue with each other until we can get things right and find some way to move forward.

00:27:39.000 But right now, we can't find any way to move forward.

00:27:41.000 But if I were to be honest, this whole thing is a mess.

00:27:43.000 I mean, you guys had all summer to figure this out.

00:27:45.000 And it's like this last-minute fire.

00:27:48.000 It's like a Chinese fire drill. 0.78

00:27:49.000 People are running all over the place, running into each other, and everyone's pointing at each other.

00:27:53.000 You got Matt Gates, you know, talking about vacate the chair and they're finding documents in the bathroom.

00:27:58.000 You got, you know, people all over the place, right?

00:28:01.000 And it's not a good look for the party.

00:28:03.000 It's not a good look for the caucus.

00:28:04.000 It doesn't make us look like a serious party.

00:28:06.000 It doesn't.

00:28:07.000 And I wish we can get it solved.

00:28:11.000 So I know you don't want to out any of your colleagues, Marjorie.

00:28:15.000 We're all fired up.

00:28:16.000 I mean, you're literally declaring war in the cartels, which is great.

00:28:20.000 But this 9:30 thing is firing me up.

00:28:22.000 I mean, I guess the excuses some of the moderates give is we're going to lose the house.

00:28:26.000 What are they telling you if we don't fight?

00:28:28.000 Tell us.

00:28:29.000 So a lot of the disagreement last night in our conference meeting was about top line spending numbers.

00:28:35.000 And this is something that every single Republican agrees on.

00:28:39.000 Our debt is out of control.

00:28:40.000 We're at $33 trillion and it's the overspending in Washington that got us here.

00:28:45.000 But in our conference meeting, they were arguing about multiple different top-line spending numbers.

00:28:49.000 And all the numbers that they were arguing over were all cuts in spending.

00:28:54.000 So that is something that we should easily be able to come to is the fact that we are cutting spending and we're doing a good job of it with our appropriation bills.

00:29:03.000 And then we need to move forward.

00:29:05.000 And it's so important.

00:29:06.000 And I was telling everyone, Charlie, that look, you don't hear people at home yelling their heads off about the difference between $1.42 trillion and $1.56 trillion.

00:29:18.000 No, you don't hear them saying that.

00:29:20.000 What they are saying is they're saying stop funding a war in Ukraine.

00:29:24.000 They're saying shut the border down.

00:29:26.000 They're saying secure our country.

00:29:29.000 They're saying do something about the transgender attack on our children. 1.00

00:29:34.000 Stop these transgender surgeries on kids. 1.00

00:29:37.000 They're saying stop grooming our children.

00:29:39.000 These are the things and the issues that people are talking about.

00:29:43.000 They're saying, don't ever make me wear a mask again.

00:29:46.000 Don't force me to take a vaccine.

00:29:48.000 Investigate the VARES reports.

00:29:50.000 Why are vaccines causing injuries and deaths?

00:29:53.000 These are the issues that Americans are talking about, but those were none of the issues that we were talking about in our conference meeting last night.

00:30:00.000 And so that is what I tried to bring up to everyone: yes, we are going to cut spending and we have to, but we can't do anything about the national debt unless we work on it for probably 10 years or more.

00:30:13.000 It is such a crisis.

00:30:15.000 It's going to take a 10-year plan to balance the budget.

00:30:19.000 It can't be done in one CR that lasts for 30 days or 60 days.

00:30:24.000 And it can't be done in one year's appropriation bills.

00:30:27.000 It's impossible.

00:30:28.000 But what we can do is we can hold the red lines that Republican voters care about.

00:30:34.000 They care about election integrity.

00:30:36.000 They care about the border.

00:30:37.000 It is a crisis.

00:30:38.000 It is a crisis, which is why I'm pointing the finger at who we should be blaming and who we should be declaring war on, which is the Mexican cartels, not the Mexican government, not the Mexican people, not Russia, not any other country.

00:30:54.000 It's the cartels who are responsible and they're profiting by the billions for human trafficking and drug trafficking.

00:31:02.000 And we can't even find nearly 100,000 migrant children in our country.

00:31:07.000 And over in Ukraine, Charlie, by the way, we hadn't even talked about this.

00:31:11.000 The country that Mitch McConnell and Schumer and Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton and everybody can't wait to give another $100 billion to. 0.91

00:31:22.000 Ukraine is one of the worst countries on the earth for child sex trafficking. 0.98

00:31:28.000 And they're harvesting children's organs over there. 1.00

00:31:31.000 And this is a disgusting country. 0.97

00:31:33.000 And we have Zelensky in the Capitol, the Capitol today walking around in his green jumpsuit. 0.98

00:31:38.000 He can't even put on a tie.

00:31:41.000 He's worse than Fetterman.

00:31:43.000 So we're in such a bad place, Charlie, that I'm willing to be honest about it.

00:31:49.000 And we can't fix it until Republicans get focused on the things that our voters actually care about and we get serious about fixing the problem.

00:32:00.000 Well, look, and Marjorie, you don't have to say anything about this, but I'm so sick of these people.

00:32:03.000 Shut it all down.

00:32:04.000 Throw away the keys.

00:32:05.000 Say, thanks for playing.

00:32:06.000 Go back home to your constituents because this is so completely out of control.

00:32:10.000 I have contempt for the leaders of the Republican Party that are entertaining this grifter in the jumpsuit, walking around the halls of Congress while we're being invaded. 0.94

00:32:18.000 I'm done.

00:32:19.000 And if they're not going to cut spending, if they're going to fund Jack Smith, have a nice time.

00:32:25.000 We don't have to fund the government.

00:32:26.000 So I am out of patience.

00:32:29.000 We appreciate your fight, Marjorie Taylor Green.

00:32:30.000 Our audience shares it, though.

00:32:32.000 I've never seen cynicism so high, never seen negativity so high, lack of just any sort of vision.

00:32:38.000 And I'll just say it again.

00:32:39.000 We knew that this September 30th deadline was coming from the new Congress in.

00:32:43.000 And all of a sudden, we have this like hair on fire moment as if, you know, you got Byron Donald's trying to break a deal and you got Dusty Johnson.

00:32:50.000 Just shut it down.

00:32:51.000 Start from square one.

00:32:52.000 Get everyone in a room.

00:32:53.000 Calm everyone down because it's better to have no deal, quite honestly, at this point.

00:32:58.000 Marjorie, thank you for fighting.

00:32:59.000 We appreciate you.

00:33:00.000 Thank you.

00:33:01.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:33:04.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:33:05.000 Everybody, email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:09.000 Thank you so much for listening and God bless.

00:33:14.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - September 21, 2023

How to Win Gen Z with Isabel Brown and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene

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