00:00:00.000Today we're joined by my friend Matt Peterson to kind of comment on some comments I made that went viral about transgenderism and transhumanism.
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00:01:07.000Now, there's something that's behind the CNN story that is missing the eye that we won't catch with just kind of our bare eyes, I should say.
00:01:17.000And it might be that you're starting to see some reshuffling on the center left and the power structures in our country.
00:01:26.000It's not just the fact that Jeff Zucker, I think he was married and he has four kids, so he's an adulterer.
00:01:33.000You know, that's nothing shocking or new, but obviously very, very wrong and morally disgusting.
00:01:42.000But if that's really what crosses the line at CNN, I don't know.
00:01:45.000It's the fact that their company is doing terribly.
00:01:49.000The company has completely and totally collapsed and has turned into basically a public and open-air Democrat super PAC.
00:01:57.000With the resignation of Chris Cuomo helping his brother and now Jeff Zucker, the future of CNN is up for grabs.
00:02:04.000And as CNN collapses, you might be wondering: hey, where do Democrats get their news from?
00:02:11.000Well, Democrats are increasingly getting their news from Tucker Carlson.
00:02:16.000New stats out show that Tucker Carlson and Fox News pulled off with the self-proclaimed most desirable demographic Democrats, young Democrats, of all those demographic age viewers surveyed who identified as Democrats, 39% of people who identify as Democrats choose Fox News, 31% choose MSNBC, and 30% choose CNN from 8 p.m. to 11.
00:02:45.000So more Democrats watching cable news are watching Tucker, Hannity, Ingram, and Gutfeld.
00:02:52.000Now, there might be some hate watching.
00:02:54.000I watch Rachel Maddow every once in a while, but there also, there might be some curiosity.
00:03:27.000The story also notes that, quote, Fox News also commanded the largest numbers of independents in the key news demo during prime time and total day hours.
00:03:36.00055% of those 25 to 54 watch the network in prime time compared to CNN's 23%, MSNBC's 22%.
00:03:45.000So Tucker Carlson literally wins with Democrats in the key demo.
00:03:51.000And it's not just about Fox, by the way.
00:03:53.000We have a ton of liberals that watch our show, and they're welcome to.
00:04:04.000You're saying things I don't hear every single day.
00:04:07.000You're saying things that I'm not going to hear on the local radio station, on whatever music station I'm listening to, or just kind of the same dogma over and over again.
00:04:19.000Dare I say, do people want ideological diversity back?
00:05:38.000You rarely see this kind of focus and commitment.
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00:07:12.000I got up super early and stuck in traffic.
00:07:15.000We still made it and drove through downtown LA.
00:07:20.000And I thought, I talked, I turned to David Engelhart, who's one of our team members and board members at Turning Point, and Mikey, I said, this used to be a beautiful city.
00:10:16.000I don't want anyone to be able to wear masks.
00:10:18.000What I do care, though, is the children of California still have to wear masks and they have developmentally, they're becoming developmentally disabled, I should say, because of these orders.
00:10:29.000And Gavin Newsom, none of those rules apply to him or his kids.
00:12:39.000I want to play the tape, Matt, and then you just take it away because I said this at this event and it went viral and we got tons of emails on it.
00:12:46.000And a lot of people that were very curious, quite honestly.
00:12:50.000But I'm the first one to say, it was one of your podcasts on the American Mind podcast, a roundtable, that you guys had this long discussion about how transgenderism is quickly turning into transhumanism.
00:13:08.000I believe, and this is to go a level deeper, but you guys are smart, you'll get it.
00:13:12.000The transgender movement actually matters even more than biomedical fascism.
00:13:16.000And they actually are together because the transgender movement is an introductory phase to get you to strip yourself of your humanity to mesh with machines.
00:15:12.000And why can't you rearrange that however you want?
00:15:16.000And so the idea is to transform human beings to get rid of that sort of old understanding of something underlying, a form that has to do with our reason and what Christians call our soul that can elevate us to something else and say, no, we can change this however we want.
00:15:37.000We can alter the human person however we want.
00:15:40.000And ultimately, that's going to be physical alteration, which of course includes sexual, because like you say, if you can do that, then you can unmake the human person, right?
00:15:51.000You could unmake yourself by unmaking your gender.
00:16:03.000I mean, it's a kind of rearrangement, any kind of monstrous rearrangement of the human person when you start taking apart things in an extreme way of the body rather than perfecting it in some ordered way leads to a kind of ugliness.
00:16:18.000And we're just going to see more of it as people say, we need to get past these old school boundaries and we can change our bodies and ourselves however we want.
00:16:28.000And then finally, as you pointed out, what does this do in terms of politics?
00:16:34.000Well, it gives some people at the top a hell of a lot of power as they terraform the rest of humanity.
00:16:41.000And they're going to take the mass of humanity and use them for parts and rearrange them however they want.
00:16:49.000It's a kind of sickening, again, I would say, demonic power that these people want to exercise.
00:16:56.000And even if it's not a well-thought-out conspiracy theory or anything like that, it's certainly the zeitgeist.
00:17:01.000It's certainly the direction in which this is moving.
00:17:05.000And finally, I should say, on the American mind, I mean, we all have to thank James Polis, who's written a book called Human Forever, which you absolutely should find.
00:18:05.000Yeah, this is something that needs to be talked about a lot more.
00:18:09.000So there is a group of folks who have incredibly wealthy, powerful men, especially, who have become trans.
00:18:18.000And it's explicitly tied in their minds to a kind of domination over nature, a way in which we can transform human nature however we wish.
00:18:30.000And of course, it's a kind of power trip, right?
00:18:34.000I mean, it's saying for a certain kind of person, it seems like it's saying, I can dominate my very sexuality and the physicality of my body however I want.
00:18:45.000But what's scary about this is that, as you say, it's deeper than the biomedical stuff, but it's all of a piece.
00:18:53.000The idea is that certain people are going to control how we terraform human bodies throughout the world.
00:19:00.000And notice that all of it is geared to atomize human beings.
00:19:06.000Just like their idea of a body is just a bunch of Lego bricks.
00:19:10.000You can rearrange however you want, and you can plug into other physical things and plug the computer in and whatever.
00:19:18.000So with individual human beings, they're all a bunch of Lego bricks too.
00:19:24.000There's no natural connection between human bodies that goes to the level of soul or that's immaterial.
00:19:30.000And therefore, they're all just parts to be used.
00:19:34.000So when you've got people who are really into the trans thing, have become trans, have trans themselves, and then they are actively working to transform the rest of humanity.
00:19:45.000Folks, that's at least a debate we should be having.
00:19:47.000That's something we should be talking about, right?
00:19:50.000Whether this is a good idea or not, and what they actually want to do to us.
00:19:54.000But I wasn't shocked, but I was curious on the response, especially from some people on the right.
00:20:02.000Because, Matt, they said, oh, no, no, no, this is a conspiracy theory.
00:20:05.000I mean, there's literature around this.
00:20:07.000And you bring up such an interesting point, which is, isn't one of the trends over the last couple of years of mandatory vaccines and this mRNA technology to try and get us closer to being okay with losing bodily autonomy, to just kind of meshing with what the pharmaceutical companies might want.
00:20:26.000And we might have you back on another time to explore this, which is the pharmaceutical companies make a ton of money on the hormone suppressors and on the transgender surgery.
00:20:38.000But, you know, how should we talk about this topic?
00:20:41.000I mean, I'm not exactly sure if what I said is persuasive or not, but I think it could be because there's a broader game at play here.
00:20:50.000Yeah, I mean, look, I think what you said was absolutely spot on.
00:20:54.000I don't, I mean, it's true that we wouldn't want to say there's some like overarching conspiracy as in, you know, 10 people meet in a room and decide every week how the narrative should go.
00:21:06.000But it's, it's, it, what's silly about it is they're saying that to simply delegitimize or discredit anyone pointing out what you're pointing out.
00:21:14.000And the truth of the matter is, this is something that intellectuals are talking about.
00:21:19.000This is something that very powerful people are talking about.
00:21:22.000And it's certainly the direction in which everything's moving, right?
00:21:26.000And as we know, when you see the way the administrative state works, the deep state works, and everything else, they don't have to talk to each other, right?
00:21:32.000People get the sense, oh, like you don't have to, politicians don't need to have a central meeting to know that they can use the response to the virus and emergency powers to take more power.
00:21:42.000It's just what they're going to do, right?
00:21:44.000And that's what we see here: you know, this is a concerted effort on the part of powerful forces, absolutely, to get rid of the idea of bodily autonomy and a kind of also relations between other human beings that can be protected, like in the family.
00:22:01.000They want to atomize the individual and then they want to take you and atomize each of your parts and say we can rearrange them however we want.
00:22:09.000And I mean, I think regular Americans understand this.
00:22:27.000Well, and what's been really disappointing is how conservatives are unwilling to talk about this at times, right?
00:22:34.000You take the Asa Hutchinson example in Arkansas, where the governor of Arkansas was like, oh, no, no, no, it's actually in the tradition of Reagan to allow five-year-olds to be able to have transgender surgery.
00:22:45.000And like, no, if we as conservatives are good for anything, we should stand against the complete and total destruction of the being itself.
00:22:52.000And it really cuts down to that philosophical tension of can you totally dominate nature?
00:23:20.000They represent a kind of power over nature.
00:23:23.000And this is why the alternative should be a more human way of life, human forever, as my colleague James Polis says.
00:23:30.000We should propose a bold new human way of life and show what that means.
00:23:34.000They want to propose a transhuman way of life.
00:23:37.000And that's why when it comes to sexuality, they almost promote and worship trans ideology and are constantly praising and highlighting this lifestyle.
00:23:56.000I mean, this is one of the most evil things you could imagine to push on young children who are confused about sexuality, the idea they should mutilate their genitals for life.
00:25:58.000So what we're thinking about with the PAC, what we're doing with the PAC, it reflects, I think, the state of the race as I see it.
00:26:05.000What we need to do in the next year is highlight the leaders who are actually moving the Republican Party forward in the way that we see addresses reality as it is.
00:26:16.000And so we need to highlight as a movement these new leaders.
00:26:21.000And when I look around, when I see a Joe Kent, if your audience knows who that is on social media, when I see a Blake Masters or a JD Vance saying the kinds of things they're saying, it's incredible.
00:26:35.000I mean, there really are signs of life out there.
00:26:38.000People who are looking at the moment, addressing the moment, and not saying the same old things.
00:26:44.000But the problem is that people need that framed as a movement, right?
00:26:48.000I mean, they really do, because a lot of the media outlets out there, if you're not listening to the right people, you know, they just kind of regard the Republican Party as like one big thing, whether it's good or bad.
00:27:17.000I think, of course, there's going to be a red wave.
00:27:20.000I think that what we need to focus on is showcasing to everyone why there's a red wave, which is not because of, you know, say, dare I say it, the Mitch McConnell's of the world sometimes saying the same old thing over and over again.
00:27:35.000It's because of some of the new leadership and new rhetoric that's making its way.
00:27:39.000And the battle for the soul of the Republican Party is going to be telling that story about 2022.
00:27:45.000Some people will say, oh, well, the pendulum's swung back and everything's fine.
00:29:00.000Whatever we build then is all we got moving forward into 2024 when the real you know what hits the fan and things are going to get very serious and very bumpy.
00:29:09.000So I regard politically, I regard this as a race to restructure and reform the Republican Party to basify it, if you will, as soon as possible.
00:29:18.000And so that going into 2024, we have a chance of the leaders we need who understand what's at stake.
00:29:26.000Well, Matt, thank you so much for joining us.