The Charlie Kirk Show - February 03, 2022


How Transgenderism is the Gateway to Transhumanism with Matt Peterson


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Matt Peterson responds to a viral tweet that went viral about transgenderism and transhumanism, and how CNN s ratings are plummeting as a result. Plus, why Tucker Carlson is winning with Democrats in the key demo, and what s going on with the future of CNN.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:00.000 Today we're joined by my friend Matt Peterson to kind of comment on some comments I made that went viral about transgenderism and transhumanism.
00:00:08.000 One of the most important episodes we've done on that topic ever.
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00:00:23.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:24.000 Here we go.
00:00:26.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:27.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:29.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:33.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:36.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:37.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:38.000 His spirit, his love of this country.
00:00:40.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.
00:00:45.000 Turning point USA. 0.65
00:00:46.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:00:55.000 That's why we are here.
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00:01:07.000 Now, there's something that's behind the CNN story that is missing the eye that we won't catch with just kind of our bare eyes, I should say.
00:01:17.000 And it might be that you're starting to see some reshuffling on the center left and the power structures in our country.
00:01:26.000 It's not just the fact that Jeff Zucker, I think he was married and he has four kids, so he's an adulterer.
00:01:32.000 Okay.
00:01:33.000 You know, that's nothing shocking or new, but obviously very, very wrong and morally disgusting.
00:01:42.000 But if that's really what crosses the line at CNN, I don't know.
00:01:45.000 It's the fact that their company is doing terribly.
00:01:49.000 The company has completely and totally collapsed and has turned into basically a public and open-air Democrat super PAC.
00:01:57.000 With the resignation of Chris Cuomo helping his brother and now Jeff Zucker, the future of CNN is up for grabs.
00:02:04.000 And as CNN collapses, you might be wondering: hey, where do Democrats get their news from?
00:02:11.000 Well, Democrats are increasingly getting their news from Tucker Carlson.
00:02:16.000 New stats out show that Tucker Carlson and Fox News pulled off with the self-proclaimed most desirable demographic Democrats, young Democrats, of all those demographic age viewers surveyed who identified as Democrats, 39% of people who identify as Democrats choose Fox News, 31% choose MSNBC, and 30% choose CNN from 8 p.m. to 11.
00:02:45.000 So more Democrats watching cable news are watching Tucker, Hannity, Ingram, and Gutfeld.
00:02:52.000 Now, there might be some hate watching.
00:02:54.000 I watch Rachel Maddow every once in a while, but there also, there might be some curiosity.
00:02:59.000 You might not like Tucker.
00:03:01.000 You might think you disagree with him, but he's interesting.
00:03:04.000 You never know what he's going to lead with.
00:03:06.000 And he also has heterodox ideas when it comes to foreign policy.
00:03:10.000 Tucker Carlson is one of the only people on cable television that says, yeah, Warth Rush is actually not a good idea.
00:03:16.000 Quote, in total day viewership, Fox News grabbed 42% of Democrats ages 25 to 54.
00:03:23.000 CNN, 33%.
00:03:25.000 MSNBC got 25%.
00:03:27.000 The story also notes that, quote, Fox News also commanded the largest numbers of independents in the key news demo during prime time and total day hours.
00:03:36.000 55% of those 25 to 54 watch the network in prime time compared to CNN's 23%, MSNBC's 22%.
00:03:45.000 So Tucker Carlson literally wins with Democrats in the key demo.
00:03:51.000 And it's not just about Fox, by the way.
00:03:53.000 We have a ton of liberals that watch our show, and they're welcome to.
00:03:56.000 We appreciate it.
00:03:57.000 And they send us notes.
00:03:59.000 They say, Charlie, I disagree with everything you say, but it's interesting.
00:04:01.000 It's new, it's provocative, it's entertaining.
00:04:04.000 You're saying things I don't hear every single day.
00:04:07.000 You're saying things that I'm not going to hear on the local radio station, on whatever music station I'm listening to, or just kind of the same dogma over and over again.
00:04:19.000 Dare I say, do people want ideological diversity back?
00:04:21.000 Sure, it seems that way.
00:04:23.000 CNN ratings are down almost 90%, and Tucker's ratings are up.
00:04:27.000 Our downloads are up.
00:04:29.000 Our ratings are up on this program.
00:04:31.000 So it's not just about us, it's not just about our ability to comment on things, which we appreciate the compliments that people send.
00:04:37.000 It's about the ideas, it's about the principles.
00:04:40.000 It's also just about being unique and interesting and honest.
00:04:43.000 On this show, we attack Republicans a lot, we attack Democrats a lot, and Tucker does exactly the same.
00:04:50.000 And so, you could tell what's about to happen politically based on the news and the information that people consume.
00:04:57.000 It's rather a rational way to look at things.
00:05:00.000 For example, Rachel Maddow's show was the number one show on cable television ahead of the Democrats in the 2018 midterms.
00:05:08.000 Tucker Carlson dominating with 25 to 54 voters.
00:05:12.000 There might be a realignment happening politically outside of the wokies in Manhattan and Malibu. 0.97
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00:06:16.000 How long can I hold my breath underwater? 1.00
00:06:20.000 Looking back, it's a really dumb game to play. 0.85
00:06:23.000 Actually, it could result in hospitalizations and people passing out. 0.94
00:06:28.000 I think my record was about a minute and a half.
00:06:33.000 And that's a long time when you're young, by the way.
00:06:35.000 I haven't tried it recently.
00:06:37.000 I'm told that you could be able to, like the experts, they could do like a six-minute dive.
00:06:42.000 Is that right?
00:06:43.000 I find that so hard to believe.
00:06:44.000 Six minutes without taking a breath at the NFC Championship game when the 49ers were blowing their lead.
00:06:52.000 There was a lot of COVID drama happening.
00:06:55.000 So you have Eric Garcetti, you have Davin Newsom all over there with no masks on.
00:07:00.000 Meanwhile, the children of Los Angeles cannot go to school without wearing masks.
00:07:06.000 And so Eric Garcetti, who's just a joke, he's overseen the destruction of a once great city.
00:07:11.000 I'm in LA right now.
00:07:12.000 I got up super early and stuck in traffic.
00:07:15.000 We still made it and drove through downtown LA.
00:07:20.000 And I thought, I talked, I turned to David Engelhart, who's one of our team members and board members at Turning Point, and Mikey, I said, this used to be a beautiful city.
00:07:29.000 I mean, it takes effort.
00:07:32.000 It takes tolerance of evil to allow the beauty of LA to become what it's become.
00:07:40.000 I'm talking about homeless encampments at every single corner.
00:07:43.000 I'm talking about just an extraordinary decline.
00:07:49.000 But the rules that are put forward are not even enforced by the ruling class themselves.
00:07:55.000 I can only hold my breath for like a minute and a half.
00:07:59.000 David Blaine went on Oprah and he held his breath for 17 minutes and four seconds, which I think's insane.
00:08:09.000 That's unbelievable.
00:08:11.000 Whatever happened to David Blaine, by the way, him and Chris Angel, I don't hear much from them anyway.
00:08:16.000 They were big when I was growing up.
00:08:18.000 That whole kind of pushing the envelope of human potential.
00:08:23.000 Yeah, that was a really big deal.
00:08:24.000 I don't see much of them anymore.
00:08:26.000 So, but Mayor Eric Garcetti, he wasn't wearing a mask.
00:08:29.000 You took a picture of Magic Johnson, but it's okay.
00:08:32.000 You know why?
00:08:33.000 He said he was holding his breath.
00:08:35.000 Now, here's a picture of Eric Garcetti in the live stream.
00:08:38.000 Does this look like a guy who's holding his breath?
00:08:40.000 Play cut 54.
00:08:43.000 I wore my mask the entire game.
00:08:45.000 And when people ask for a photograph, I hold my breath and I put it here and people could see that.
00:08:49.000 There's a 0% chance of infection from that.
00:08:52.000 Oh, really?
00:08:52.000 So why don't you allow kids in schools to just hold their breath when they get near other people?
00:08:57.000 And the arrogance and the attitude.
00:09:00.000 He's just like, yeah, I don't care.
00:09:01.000 I'm in charge.
00:09:02.000 I do whatever I want.
00:09:05.000 I mean, it kind of reminds me of, it's not like I inhaled.
00:09:10.000 I mean, I was around marijuana.
00:09:14.000 I smelled marijuana, but I didn't inhale the cannabis.
00:09:20.000 I was marijuana adjacent.
00:09:22.000 Okay.
00:09:24.000 Gavin Newsom has his own response.
00:09:28.000 I was trying to be gracious and I made a missed, you know, he almost said mistake.
00:09:32.000 I mean, I was trying to be gracious and I took the mask off.
00:09:34.000 Play cut 30.
00:09:35.000 I was very judicious yesterday.
00:09:38.000 Very judicious.
00:09:39.000 And you'll see the photo that I did take where Magic was kind enough, generous enough to ask me for a photograph.
00:09:46.000 And in my left hand, it's the mask and I took a photo.
00:09:49.000 Rest of the time I wore it, as we all should.
00:09:54.000 Not when I had a glass of water or a thing.
00:09:57.000 And I encourage everybody else to do so.
00:09:59.000 And that's it.
00:10:01.000 I was trying to be gracious and took the mask off for a brief second.
00:10:05.000 But no, I encourage people to continue wearing them.
00:10:09.000 He's just lying.
00:10:10.000 There's footage of him just hanging out at SoFi Stadium in the box, not wearing a mask.
00:10:15.000 Again, I couldn't care less.
00:10:16.000 I don't want anyone to be able to wear masks.
00:10:18.000 What I do care, though, is the children of California still have to wear masks and they have developmentally, they're becoming developmentally disabled, I should say, because of these orders.
00:10:29.000 And Gavin Newsom, none of those rules apply to him or his kids.
00:10:32.000 Of course not.
00:10:33.000 But the lower middle class, the black kids and the Hispanic kids in downtown LA, yeah, the ones that have to wear masks all day long. 1.00
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00:11:57.000 As we said previously, we were trending for three different things yesterday, calling for Fauci to be arrested on the state level.
00:12:05.000 We were trending for calling Californians from San Francisco who moved to Montana locusts and also the transgender one. 0.99
00:12:14.000 But the transgender one got the most upset. 1.00
00:12:16.000 And I blame one person, Matt Peterson, for infecting me with all these wonderful ideas.
00:12:21.000 Matt, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:12:23.000 Hey, it's great to be here.
00:12:25.000 Wonderful day, wonderful week for you.
00:12:27.000 A lot of wins.
00:12:28.000 Oh, it's great.
00:12:29.000 And I say blame in the most sarcastic opposite sense.
00:12:33.000 I give credit for the wisdom Claremont and you helped bring me towards.
00:12:38.000 It's terrific.
00:12:39.000 I want to play the tape, Matt, and then you just take it away because I said this at this event and it went viral and we got tons of emails on it.
00:12:46.000 And a lot of people that were very curious, quite honestly.
00:12:50.000 But I'm the first one to say, it was one of your podcasts on the American Mind podcast, a roundtable, that you guys had this long discussion about how transgenderism is quickly turning into transhumanism.
00:13:02.000 It really got me thinking.
00:13:04.000 So let's play Cut 64.
00:13:05.000 And then after the clip ends, Matt, you take it.
00:13:07.000 Play Cut 64.
00:13:08.000 I believe, and this is to go a level deeper, but you guys are smart, you'll get it.
00:13:12.000 The transgender movement actually matters even more than biomedical fascism. 0.96
00:13:16.000 And they actually are together because the transgender movement is an introductory phase to get you to strip yourself of your humanity to mesh with machines. 1.00
00:13:24.000 It's called transhumanism.
00:13:25.000 They want you to say, okay, well, I can choose any gender.
00:13:28.000 Why can't I just have like an exoskeleton of some sort of machine around me?
00:13:32.000 This is what meta is about, the metaverse, kids staring at screens all day long.
00:13:36.000 This is documented.
00:13:37.000 This is proven.
00:13:37.000 This is where Silicon Valley is going.
00:13:39.000 This is why they're so insistent on this transgender thing because if you stop being a man, then maybe you can stop being a human being. 0.99
00:13:45.000 Maybe you can cut this plug into some sort of machine. 0.55
00:13:48.000 That is really, really important in terms of a message that I think a lot of people need to hear.
00:13:55.000 And I think it's a message that a lot of younger people will intuitively understand.
00:14:00.000 And they see this happening, but they need the words and the concepts and the kind of way of thinking to describe it.
00:14:07.000 And one way to start is: I mean, as you notice, the preposition trans. 0.91
00:14:13.000 I mean, when you say trans, what does that mean?
00:14:16.000 And we, I mean, they used to be transsexual, right? 0.97
00:14:21.000 But transhumanism is also a thing.
00:14:23.000 And those two, the connection between those two concepts is what you're talking about here.
00:14:29.000 And, you know, transhumanism is behind so much of what's going on in tech.
00:14:33.000 And the idea is that we can essentially use science to alter ourselves however we want to become superhuman.
00:14:42.000 Now, that's an age-old temptation, right?
00:14:44.000 And of course, we can use science to better ourselves in some way.
00:14:48.000 But this connection between transhumanism, which means instead of a soul or a form, like the soul used to be the form of the body, right?
00:14:57.000 The soul is what's immaterial about you that doesn't change over time, that helps order the body.
00:15:04.000 When you get rid of that concept, all of a sudden you have a body that's a bunch of Lego bricks.
00:15:11.000 It's all just a bunch of atoms.
00:15:12.000 And why can't you rearrange that however you want?
00:15:16.000 And so the idea is to transform human beings to get rid of that sort of old understanding of something underlying, a form that has to do with our reason and what Christians call our soul that can elevate us to something else and say, no, we can change this however we want.
00:15:37.000 We can alter the human person however we want.
00:15:40.000 And ultimately, that's going to be physical alteration, which of course includes sexual, because like you say, if you can do that, then you can unmake the human person, right?
00:15:51.000 You could unmake yourself by unmaking your gender. 1.00
00:15:55.000 Now, this is all kind of a fantasy.
00:15:58.000 And what it leads to is something that I would say is just demonic.
00:16:02.000 It's ugly.
00:16:03.000 I mean, it's a kind of rearrangement, any kind of monstrous rearrangement of the human person when you start taking apart things in an extreme way of the body rather than perfecting it in some ordered way leads to a kind of ugliness.
00:16:18.000 And we're just going to see more of it as people say, we need to get past these old school boundaries and we can change our bodies and ourselves however we want.
00:16:28.000 And then finally, as you pointed out, what does this do in terms of politics?
00:16:34.000 Well, it gives some people at the top a hell of a lot of power as they terraform the rest of humanity.
00:16:41.000 And they're going to take the mass of humanity and use them for parts and rearrange them however they want.
00:16:49.000 It's a kind of sickening, again, I would say, demonic power that these people want to exercise.
00:16:56.000 And even if it's not a well-thought-out conspiracy theory or anything like that, it's certainly the zeitgeist.
00:17:01.000 It's certainly the direction in which this is moving.
00:17:05.000 And finally, I should say, on the American mind, I mean, we all have to thank James Polis, who's written a book called Human Forever, which you absolutely should find.
00:17:14.000 It's an incredible book.
00:17:16.000 And Human Forever really lays a lot of this out.
00:17:20.000 And James Polis is a colleague at the American Mind who really has been at the forefront of thinking about this and warning about it.
00:17:29.000 So we plug our podcast a lot, and I don't plug a lot of others.
00:17:32.000 Your guys' podcast is phenomenal.
00:17:33.000 It's conversational, it's deep, it's entertaining, and it's new.
00:17:37.000 And it's not just the same old recycled takes one after the other.
00:17:40.000 So the remnant, who I think is a left-winger on Twitter, I'm not sure, said Charlie Kirk did not name any names, but he's correct.
00:17:47.000 People such as Martine Rothblot, a trans billionaire, is an explicit advocate of transhumanism.
00:17:54.000 Rothblot founded a transhumanist NGO collective called Terrasim and wrote a book literally called From Transgender to Transhuman.
00:18:03.000 Talk about that, Matt.
00:18:05.000 Yeah, this is something that needs to be talked about a lot more.
00:18:09.000 So there is a group of folks who have incredibly wealthy, powerful men, especially, who have become trans.
00:18:18.000 And it's explicitly tied in their minds to a kind of domination over nature, a way in which we can transform human nature however we wish.
00:18:30.000 And of course, it's a kind of power trip, right?
00:18:34.000 I mean, it's saying for a certain kind of person, it seems like it's saying, I can dominate my very sexuality and the physicality of my body however I want.
00:18:45.000 But what's scary about this is that, as you say, it's deeper than the biomedical stuff, but it's all of a piece.
00:18:53.000 The idea is that certain people are going to control how we terraform human bodies throughout the world.
00:19:00.000 And notice that all of it is geared to atomize human beings.
00:19:06.000 Just like their idea of a body is just a bunch of Lego bricks.
00:19:10.000 You can rearrange however you want, and you can plug into other physical things and plug the computer in and whatever.
00:19:18.000 So with individual human beings, they're all a bunch of Lego bricks too.
00:19:22.000 There's no family.
00:19:23.000 There's no community.
00:19:24.000 There's no natural connection between human bodies that goes to the level of soul or that's immaterial.
00:19:30.000 And therefore, they're all just parts to be used.
00:19:34.000 So when you've got people who are really into the trans thing, have become trans, have trans themselves, and then they are actively working to transform the rest of humanity.
00:19:45.000 Folks, that's at least a debate we should be having.
00:19:47.000 That's something we should be talking about, right?
00:19:50.000 Whether this is a good idea or not, and what they actually want to do to us.
00:19:54.000 But I wasn't shocked, but I was curious on the response, especially from some people on the right.
00:20:02.000 Because, Matt, they said, oh, no, no, no, this is a conspiracy theory.
00:20:05.000 I mean, there's literature around this.
00:20:07.000 And you bring up such an interesting point, which is, isn't one of the trends over the last couple of years of mandatory vaccines and this mRNA technology to try and get us closer to being okay with losing bodily autonomy, to just kind of meshing with what the pharmaceutical companies might want.
00:20:25.000 And it's a separate issue.
00:20:26.000 And we might have you back on another time to explore this, which is the pharmaceutical companies make a ton of money on the hormone suppressors and on the transgender surgery.
00:20:38.000 But, you know, how should we talk about this topic?
00:20:41.000 I mean, I'm not exactly sure if what I said is persuasive or not, but I think it could be because there's a broader game at play here.
00:20:50.000 Yeah, I mean, look, I think what you said was absolutely spot on.
00:20:54.000 I don't, I mean, it's true that we wouldn't want to say there's some like overarching conspiracy as in, you know, 10 people meet in a room and decide every week how the narrative should go.
00:21:06.000 But it's, it's, it, what's silly about it is they're saying that to simply delegitimize or discredit anyone pointing out what you're pointing out.
00:21:14.000 And the truth of the matter is, this is something that intellectuals are talking about.
00:21:19.000 This is something that very powerful people are talking about.
00:21:22.000 And it's certainly the direction in which everything's moving, right?
00:21:26.000 And as we know, when you see the way the administrative state works, the deep state works, and everything else, they don't have to talk to each other, right?
00:21:32.000 People get the sense, oh, like you don't have to, politicians don't need to have a central meeting to know that they can use the response to the virus and emergency powers to take more power.
00:21:42.000 It's just what they're going to do, right?
00:21:44.000 And that's what we see here: you know, this is a concerted effort on the part of powerful forces, absolutely, to get rid of the idea of bodily autonomy and a kind of also relations between other human beings that can be protected, like in the family.
00:22:01.000 They want to atomize the individual and then they want to take you and atomize each of your parts and say we can rearrange them however we want.
00:22:09.000 And I mean, I think regular Americans understand this.
00:22:13.000 They can see it happening.
00:22:14.000 And this kind of denial, like, oh, that's a conspiracy theory is just their tactic to delegitimize anyone who points out the obvious.
00:22:22.000 And the obvious here is and should be terrifying.
00:22:24.000 We have to talk about this.
00:22:27.000 Well, and what's been really disappointing is how conservatives are unwilling to talk about this at times, right?
00:22:34.000 You take the Asa Hutchinson example in Arkansas, where the governor of Arkansas was like, oh, no, no, no, it's actually in the tradition of Reagan to allow five-year-olds to be able to have transgender surgery.
00:22:45.000 And like, no, if we as conservatives are good for anything, we should stand against the complete and total destruction of the being itself.
00:22:52.000 And it really cuts down to that philosophical tension of can you totally dominate nature?
00:22:58.000 Or is nature the norm?
00:23:00.000 Absolutely.
00:23:01.000 Look, look, I mean, this is why they propose this as a way of life.
00:23:04.000 People, the conservatives who don't get it, you know, they have no idea what they're talking about.
00:23:08.000 Why are, you know, why are there transsexuals on, why are trannies on the cover of Sports Illustrated, right? 1.00
00:23:13.000 Why is trans being promoted all the time as a way of?
00:23:16.000 Because this is their way of life, transhumanism.
00:23:19.000 They represent transhumanism.
00:23:20.000 They represent a kind of power over nature.
00:23:23.000 And this is why the alternative should be a more human way of life, human forever, as my colleague James Polis says.
00:23:30.000 We should propose a bold new human way of life and show what that means.
00:23:34.000 They want to propose a transhuman way of life.
00:23:37.000 And that's why when it comes to sexuality, they almost promote and worship trans ideology and are constantly praising and highlighting this lifestyle. 0.83
00:23:47.000 So people, it's not even a lifestyle.
00:23:49.000 It's mutilation of the sexual organs of the body.
00:23:53.000 And they're encouraging that to happen with kids.
00:23:55.000 They're hiding it from parents. 0.88
00:23:56.000 I mean, this is one of the most evil things you could imagine to push on young children who are confused about sexuality, the idea they should mutilate their genitals for life. 0.91
00:24:06.000 And this is what they're pushing.
00:24:08.000 So these people like Hutchinson have no idea what they're talking about.
00:24:12.000 And it's completely insufficient.
00:24:14.000 And we have to move past that.
00:24:16.000 And they are political issues.
00:24:18.000 You know, they say, oh, they're personal issues.
00:24:19.000 No, they're actually political issues.
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00:25:29.000 Matt, let's focus on politics here.
00:25:31.000 First, talk about your PAC and then just unfiltered thoughts on the state of the Republican Party.
00:25:36.000 Absolutely.
00:25:37.000 So American Firebrand, AmericanFirebrand.com, We Fight to Win is the name of the PAC.
00:25:43.000 And the goal of the PAC is to start producing the kind of media that is the answer to the Lincoln Project, sort of in reverse.
00:25:50.000 I mean, no pedophilia, and it's actually will be good.
00:25:54.000 But it's going to be a fun year.
00:25:58.000 So what we're thinking about with the PAC, what we're doing with the PAC, it reflects, I think, the state of the race as I see it.
00:26:05.000 What we need to do in the next year is highlight the leaders who are actually moving the Republican Party forward in the way that we see addresses reality as it is.
00:26:16.000 And so we need to highlight as a movement these new leaders.
00:26:21.000 And when I look around, when I see a Joe Kent, if your audience knows who that is on social media, when I see a Blake Masters or a JD Vance saying the kinds of things they're saying, it's incredible.
00:26:35.000 I mean, there really are signs of life out there.
00:26:38.000 People who are looking at the moment, addressing the moment, and not saying the same old things.
00:26:44.000 But the problem is that people need that framed as a movement, right?
00:26:48.000 I mean, they really do, because a lot of the media outlets out there, if you're not listening to the right people, you know, they just kind of regard the Republican Party as like one big thing, whether it's good or bad.
00:27:00.000 And it's not, right? 0.86
00:27:00.000 There's people who are saying the same old crap who really are just dragging us down and in our way. 0.86
00:27:07.000 And then there's people who are boldly saying some new things. 0.94
00:27:11.000 And we have to highlight and support those candidates.
00:27:14.000 So I'm hopeful about 2022.
00:27:17.000 I think, of course, there's going to be a red wave.
00:27:20.000 I think that what we need to focus on is showcasing to everyone why there's a red wave, which is not because of, you know, say, dare I say it, the Mitch McConnell's of the world sometimes saying the same old thing over and over again.
00:27:35.000 It's because of some of the new leadership and new rhetoric that's making its way.
00:27:39.000 And the battle for the soul of the Republican Party is going to be telling that story about 2022.
00:27:45.000 Some people will say, oh, well, the pendulum's swung back and everything's fine.
00:27:49.000 And I don't think that's true.
00:27:50.000 I think when the pendulum swings back, it'll be because there are bold leaders who are willing to fight back.
00:27:54.000 And people were sort of forced to go to the Republican Party because Democrats are so bad.
00:27:59.000 And we need to emulate the real leaders and not listen to some of the others who just aren't doing enough.
00:28:05.000 Are you optimistic or pessimistic?
00:28:07.000 New candidates are running.
00:28:08.000 Seems like new ideas are out there.
00:28:10.000 What's your state of affairs?
00:28:12.000 I mean, I am optimistic.
00:28:13.000 I think there's going to be unlooked for leaders that no one even knows about now who come into this Congress.
00:28:19.000 I think that people, the base, understands where this needs to go and they're attracted to these new leaders.
00:28:25.000 On the other hand, it's cautious optimism because we have a lot of work to do.
00:28:29.000 We really have a lot of work to do to replace a lot of old leadership or incompetent leadership with new leaders.
00:28:35.000 And it just overall means we got to go younger.
00:28:39.000 Generally, younger people are going to get it.
00:28:41.000 It's a stereotype, but it's a good one. 1.00
00:28:43.000 Put younger people in charge, accelerate change. 0.93
00:28:46.000 And so I am optimistic, but it's cautious optimism because there's a lot of work to do.
00:28:52.000 And 2020, in a way, is going to be easy.
00:28:54.000 But whatever we can build in 2022, I mean, 2022 is going to be easy.
00:28:59.000 There will be a red wave.
00:29:00.000 Whatever we build then is all we got moving forward into 2024 when the real you know what hits the fan and things are going to get very serious and very bumpy.
00:29:09.000 So I regard politically, I regard this as a race to restructure and reform the Republican Party to basify it, if you will, as soon as possible.
00:29:18.000 And so that going into 2024, we have a chance of the leaders we need who understand what's at stake.
00:29:26.000 Well, Matt, thank you so much for joining us.
00:29:28.000 I couldn't agree more.
00:29:29.000 And I need to have you back on to talk about the younger stereotype.
00:29:32.000 We get some mixed feedback when I say that.
00:29:34.000 Some of our listeners do not agree.
00:29:36.000 They say, no, we need more wisdom and we need more people that are in their 70s and 80s.
00:29:40.000 So I think that's an interesting, you know, I obviously agree.
00:29:43.000 Probably younger blood is a very good thing, but I want you to make that case at a different time, though. 0.61
00:29:47.000 We're out of time, unfortunately.
00:29:49.000 Matt, thank you so much for joining us, my friend.
00:29:50.000 You're terrific.
00:29:52.000 Oh, thank you.
00:29:53.000 What you've been saying has been incredible.
00:29:54.000 Thank you.
00:29:55.000 Awesome.
00:29:55.000 Thanks.
00:29:56.000 Talk to you soon.
00:29:56.000 Thank you.
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