The Charlie Kirk Show - May 11, 2023


How Trump Dominated CNN + An Immigration Pearl Harbor


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Alex fills in for Charlie Kirk on his own show, the Charlie Kirk Show, where we hear from Charlie himself and President Trump's take on Tucker Carlson's move to the White House, and the Trump dunk on CNN last night.

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00:00:00.000 I'm Alex Marlowe, editor-in-chief of Breitbart News, and I'm filling in for Charlie Kirk today.
00:00:05.000 You can email Charlie, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:00:09.000 But in this first hour, you will hear from Charlie himself.
00:00:11.000 He is my guest on his own show, which is a very meta moment that is super fun.
00:00:17.000 We begin, unfortunately, with some tough news for the country.
00:00:21.000 This is a date that could very well live in infamy.
00:00:24.000 As the end of Title 42 happens tonight, I explain what that is, what it means, and where we go from here as we open up our border even more.
00:00:33.000 If you thought there was a surge before, well, you ain't seen nothing yet.
00:00:37.000 Then we get into Trump's dunk-a-thon on CNN last night, which was truly a delight if you get to watch any of it.
00:00:43.000 And if you've not, we will play clips for you.
00:00:45.000 And he triggered all the right people with an epic performance during a town hall, and he even caught me by surprise.
00:00:51.000 And I would like to think I'm an expert in things media.
00:00:54.000 We get Charlie's take on that, plus Charlie's opinion on what's going on in the media space in general, particularly with regard to Tucker Carlson's move to Twitter.
00:01:04.000 And as I like to say to all my children, snap into your five-point harness because here we go.
00:01:11.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:01:13.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:01:15.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:01:18.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:01:22.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:01:23.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:01:24.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:32.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:41.000 That's why we are here.
00:01:44.000 Brought to you by the Loan Experts I Trust, Andrew and Todd at Sierra Pacific Mortgage at AndrewandTodd.com.
00:01:54.000 I'm Alex Marlowe.
00:01:55.000 I'm the editor-in-chief of Breitbart News.
00:01:57.000 Very pleased to be filling in for my good friend Charlie Kirk.
00:02:00.000 Just as a brief background, I've been editor-in-chief of Breitbart News going on 10 years, the first employee of Andrew Breitbart.
00:02:06.000 And many years ago, when Charlie Kirk was just a high school student, he sent us an idea for a story to report on.
00:02:14.000 And Joel Pollock, who's then the editor-in-chief and now is one of our senior editors at Breitbart, suggested that Charlie write it up himself.
00:02:20.000 Charlie said, that sounds like a good idea.
00:02:22.000 The story went viral before viral was even a thing.
00:02:25.000 He was all over Fox and elsewhere reporting on it.
00:02:28.000 And he got the bug.
00:02:29.000 And that bug led to where we are today with his Turning Point USA, which is terrific.
00:02:32.000 And they're kind enough to have me speak at their events and this huge show and podcast, et cetera.
00:02:37.000 And I'm pleased to be here.
00:02:38.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.
00:02:40.000 If you want to correspond with Charlie, subscribe to the Charlie Kirk show is the best way you can help the show.
00:02:46.000 Leaving five-star reviews as well, particularly on iTunes, whatever they're calling the Apple podcast.
00:02:51.000 That's really helpful to Charlie.
00:02:53.000 If you want to talk to me during the show today, alex at Breitbart.com, my email is open and I'll be looking forward to your feedback.
00:03:00.000 A huge news day today, and I'm very tempted.
00:03:03.000 And I was debating with the producers a little bit about this.
00:03:05.000 I'm very tempted to get right into President Trump doing windmill 360 dunks on CNN all night, which was a delight.
00:03:12.000 Anyone with half a sense of humor probably had the best news day of the year yesterday doing that.
00:03:18.000 But it is a huge day in a negative sense because tonight, as we heard in the intro at midnight, it is the end of Title 42.
00:03:26.000 Title 42 is the thinnest veil of border security that we have in this country.
00:03:31.000 We have very little, but it begins with Title 42, which actually comes from the CDC's authority.
00:03:37.000 Now, why is that?
00:03:38.000 It's a tool to remove migrants and send them back to their nation's country in the name of public health. 1.00
00:03:43.000 Now, this applied during the pandemic, but shouldn't this apply all the time?
00:03:47.000 Isn't this just about the best possible reason to have a border to keep people out who are perhaps unhealthy, perhaps bringing drugs, perhaps bringing disease?
00:03:57.000 It in fact is one of the main functions of a border in a sane society.
00:04:01.000 And it's probably why just about every country on earth has a border.
00:04:05.000 In fact, we're fighting a border war right now.
00:04:07.000 It just so happens to be in Ukraine against the Russians.
00:04:10.000 But our own border, we're going to be letting it wide open more so than it already is.
00:04:15.000 So what is going to happen?
00:04:17.000 And this is the thing to watch.
00:04:19.000 What is going to happen?
00:04:20.000 What's happening now is already interesting.
00:04:21.000 10,000 plus people already crossing every day.
00:04:24.000 It's already a surge.
00:04:26.000 But what's going to happen next is we're going to see these things called the notices to appear, permisos, notices to appear in court.
00:04:32.000 This is in other words, catch and release, catch and release.
00:04:36.000 We catch them and then we release them.
00:04:38.000 There's my favorite thing that Trump always explains, catch and release.
00:04:41.000 It's the one thing we all understand.
00:04:42.000 We get it.
00:04:43.000 Catch them and release them.
00:04:44.000 But he loves to explain it.
00:04:45.000 He loves to explain it.
00:04:46.000 But that's what's going to happen.
00:04:47.000 And it's not really a funny thing because once people get released, it could be years potentially until they get some sort of a hearing.
00:04:54.000 And then if they get a hearing, who's to say they're going to be deported?
00:04:57.000 And at that time, who's to say they wouldn't have already put down roots, become a part of at least somewhat of the fabric of our economy?
00:05:04.000 Maybe they've had children there.
00:05:05.000 Are you allowed to say anchor babies?
00:05:07.000 Or is that not a thing now?
00:05:09.000 You may or may not refer to them as that, okay?
00:05:11.000 But there are people who will get birthright citizenship who will be here.
00:05:14.000 All of this chaos because we don't have a sane border.
00:05:17.000 And of course, we don't have a completed border wall, which should be priority number one for the next Republican president.
00:05:23.000 So there's going to be 400,000 estimated arrivals, according to our reporting at Breitbart News.
00:05:29.000 And this would eclipse, get this, the residencies of the cities of New Orleans, Tampa, Cleveland, and Honolulu.
00:05:36.000 None of them have 400,000 residents.
00:05:38.000 We're going to be getting that every month, if our reporting is accurate at Breitbart.
00:05:42.000 Reports now are that there's 700,000 illegal aliens amassing at the border right now.
00:05:47.000 So what is the customs and border protection, what's Alejandro Mayorkas and the Department of Homeland Security doing?
00:05:53.000 Well, what they're doing is they've apparently created an app.
00:05:57.000 Yes, you can literally have an app where you can book an appointment to, I guess, get your permisos and then wind up somewhere in the country.
00:06:04.000 So obviously the wall is not being built, but we are building processing sensors.
00:06:09.000 So we're having a debt ceiling debate right now, which could potentially lead to a partial shutdown of the government if the Democrats get their way.
00:06:19.000 And if that happens, then they think they're going to blame Republicans for this.
00:06:22.000 Do you remember the last time we had one of those?
00:06:24.000 It was when President Trump was asking for $5 billion for a border wall.
00:06:27.000 Now, think about how much money has been sent to Ukraine, well over nine-figure sum.
00:06:35.000 Think about for their border.
00:06:36.000 Think about how we're going to have to make these processing plans.
00:06:39.000 We're going to make them available.
00:06:41.000 We're going to have to add new personnel.
00:06:42.000 We're going to strain those personnel.
00:06:43.000 We're going to strain those families.
00:06:45.000 And all because we would not build a wall.
00:06:47.000 And think back on that when you're thinking about the absurdity of the debt ceiling debate that we're going to get is that, and the road towards a shutdown when the last shutdown took place.
00:06:57.000 So this does not need to end.
00:06:59.000 Title 42 does not need to end.
00:07:00.000 And the Republicans and even a couple of Democrats seem to want to preserve it.
00:07:04.000 So instead, what we're going to have, instead of this provision, we're going to see wages depressed.
00:07:10.000 We're going to see more crime.
00:07:12.000 We're going to see more drugs.
00:07:13.000 We're going to see rents go up.
00:07:15.000 And the lower classes in America, the working classes, are always the ones who are hardest hit.
00:07:20.000 They're the ones who are families or going to get hooked on the fentanyl that's going to come through via China into Mexico up via the cartels.
00:07:27.000 We are going to see the ones whose rent is going to go up.
00:07:30.000 They're the ones whose jobs, their wages are going to get undercut.
00:07:34.000 So why do we do this to our citizens?
00:07:36.000 The only explanation is that the Democrats want to import new voters and some in the Republican establishment want to report cheaper wages so that their stock can go up just a little bit.
00:07:47.000 Those are the only logical reasons or the one that maybe is the most logical of all, but is the most scary is that the people in charge right now simply don't like this country.
00:07:55.000 They want it to be destroyed.
00:07:58.000 They want it to be what it means to be an American citizen, something that is a rare and beautiful concept to be undermined at every turn.
00:08:06.000 So, this is the reality that we're up against.
00:08:09.000 And Maorkis has been giving press conference, press conference where he's been trying to spin what's going on and trying to act like he has it under control.
00:08:18.000 Do we have the cut of him speaking to Neil Monroe?
00:08:22.000 Yes.
00:08:23.000 This is, I think this is cut 110.
00:08:26.000 Let's play cut 110, please.
00:08:29.000 Check this out. 1.00
00:08:30.000 Migrants are actually ordering door dash and food deliveries on the Mexican side to get by until we take custody. 1.00
00:08:38.000 Also, they believe, as the migrants you see here inside this shelter, that the U.S. is obligated to hear their asylum claims when Title 42 drops on Thursday night.
00:08:49.000 Yeah, so that was the one I was looking for, but that's my bad.
00:08:51.000 I blame me, not the producers on that one.
00:08:53.000 But that's still a great clip.
00:08:54.000 It just shows you how this is a culture that's taking place.
00:08:58.000 Because in social media, everyone is suggesting now is the time to come.
00:08:58.000 And why is it taking place?
00:09:02.000 Now is the time to get here.
00:09:04.000 We are going to see the people flood into the country, and they're going to be very well fed, apparently, because they're getting the door dashed down there.
00:09:13.000 So what's gone on is that Majorkis has suggested that the border is not open.
00:09:18.000 The border is secure.
00:09:19.000 Of course, we know that's not true.
00:09:20.000 We saw a record people cross in fiscal year 2022, up 33% over 2021, which was a record then.
00:09:28.000 We are now at 5x for fiscal year 22, what we saw in President Trump's last year as president, fiscal year 2020, five times.
00:09:37.000 That's acceptable already to apparently the vast majority of people in Washington because they're good with those numbers.
00:09:42.000 Now imagine what's going to happen when we take off this last remaining provision.
00:09:46.000 They keep some sort of semblance of a secure border.
00:09:49.000 So what's being told now is that Biden is going to try to limit the amount of migrants who can claim asylum.
00:09:55.000 This is totally bogus because all they are going to do is just get absorbed in the country for years.
00:10:00.000 And that scenario is going to play out where they're going to try to put down roots here and they're going to create a scenario where they're allowed to stay.
00:10:07.000 They're going to come up with a rationale so they're allowed to stay.
00:10:09.000 And who knows if we'll ever get around to processing them, if we even know they're there at all.
00:10:14.000 We have this thing called sanctuary cities.
00:10:17.000 We have this thing called sanctuary cities in this country where people are allowed to basically break this law and this one and only law.
00:10:25.000 There's no other law in the country where there is a sanctuary city.
00:10:27.000 Is there one?
00:10:29.000 Any of them?
00:10:30.000 I don't think there's any.
00:10:31.000 It's just this.
00:10:32.000 This is the only law you're allowed to break and you get sanctuary.
00:10:35.000 So you go there and then you're cool.
00:10:38.000 And if you think the people in San Francisco and in Chicago and Washington, D.C. and in New York City are going to do a lot to try to get you deported, not going to happen.
00:10:48.000 It's not going to happen.
00:10:50.000 So this is all the desire and the design of the people in charge.
00:10:55.000 Now, just as a reminder, the person who's ostensibly in charge of the border right now is Kamala Harris.
00:11:00.000 The person who was ostensibly in charge of the border during the Barack Obama administration, guess who it was?
00:11:06.000 Joe Biden.
00:11:07.000 Joe Biden.
00:11:09.000 All on him.
00:11:10.000 The big guy himself.
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00:14:07.000 Jay Johnson, who was high up Homeland Security Secretary under Barack Obama, has noted that migrants are going to be released in the country without a court date and without tracking.
00:14:18.000 And that's a big problem.
00:14:19.000 Yeah, no kidding.
00:14:20.000 It is interesting to see that even Biden's getting picked on by the Obama veterans.
00:14:25.000 We're seeing migrants arrive in Chicago with colds, pink eye, and believe it or not, COVID-19 still out there, the coronavirus, the Wuhan flu.
00:14:36.000 So this is one of these things where you think about the border, Title 42, the logic of it.
00:14:41.000 Of course, it's logical.
00:14:42.000 Of course, it's logical to have something that prevents people who are diseased from coming into the country. 1.00
00:14:49.000 Not say everyone coming into the country is that way, but that's why you have a system where people at least have to sign the guest book before they come in.
00:14:56.000 It's such a no-brainer.
00:14:58.000 And all you need to do is look at the city of El Paso as people pile up in makeshift shanty towns. 0.78
00:15:04.000 Kind of like the stuff you see under freeway overpasses in California these days.
00:15:08.000 All of it is very upsetting.
00:15:10.000 A Chinese migrant, according to the feds, has been charged with possession of child porn video of preschool-age girls.
00:15:18.000 When Trump said they're not sending their best, he wasn't wrong.
00:15:22.000 Trump said a lot last night on CNN.
00:15:25.000 It was an unbelievable tour de force from Trump, vintage Trump.
00:15:29.000 And I will say this: it is not what I'd anticipated.
00:15:33.000 I was kind of upset Trump was going to go on the fake news network, CNN, and I was wrong.
00:15:38.000 I was dead wrong.
00:15:39.000 It was incredible.
00:15:40.000 And I will tell you what he did: he had fun.
00:15:43.000 His demeanor made it all work.
00:15:45.000 It was pure wrestlemania.
00:15:47.000 It was like it was 2015, the glory days again.
00:15:50.000 And CNN's circling the drain.
00:15:52.000 Their ratings are, you know, half a million people are watching, which is literally if you just put on a video of cats playing with balls of yarn during that slot, it would do more than half a million.
00:16:00.000 I mean, that's way more interesting than whatever they're doing.
00:16:03.000 But he handled it perfectly.
00:16:04.000 He made a mockery of the host, Caitlin Collins, who was obviously an overhead on this, but she's about to become a millionaire, I'm told.
00:16:14.000 I'm about to, she's going to get that Don Lamone slot, which is it's highly coveted.
00:16:19.000 Everyone in media wants that Don Lamone slot.
00:16:21.000 So she's going to make a lot of money off of this, I guess. 0.73
00:16:23.000 But CNN just offered her up for the slaughter in exchange for ratings.
00:16:27.000 But this is going to be a fearic victory because CNN will win the night or whatever, but their brand is even somehow worse than it was going into last night. 0.92
00:16:38.000 And the trick was the dichotomy of the way Trump behaved versus the way the moderator Caitlin Collins behaved. 0.59
00:16:44.000 She had no joy. 0.99
00:16:45.000 She has no fun.
00:16:46.000 She acts so serious, but she doesn't have the content to be that serious.
00:16:51.000 And Trump, who had all the content, was having a great time.
00:16:54.000 And it was such a pleasure to watch the fallout afterwards, all the meltdowns.
00:16:58.000 We'll play lots of clips for you throughout the show, but I can't resist playing at least a couple right here at the outset.
00:17:05.000 Here was one of the funniest moments I've ever seen, I think, of any public forum in my life.
00:17:09.000 Cut 107, please. 0.96
00:17:11.000 This woman, I don't know her.
00:17:13.000 I never met her.
00:17:15.000 I have no idea who she is.
00:17:16.000 I had a picture taken years ago with her and her husband, nice guy, John Johnson.
00:17:21.000 He was a newscaster, very nice man.
00:17:23.000 She called him an ape. 0.60
00:17:24.000 Happens to be African-American. 0.99
00:17:27.000 Called him an ape. 0.78
00:17:28.000 The judge wouldn't allow us to put that in. 1.00
00:17:30.000 Her dog or her cat was named Vagina. 1.00
00:17:34.000 The judge wouldn't allow it to put that in. 0.81
00:17:37.000 And he went on from there.
00:17:38.000 He kept saying things that were his talking points, the things that he wanted to convey to the public, but he did it in such a humorous way that the audience was cracking up while they were actually getting informed.
00:17:50.000 And you saw all of the people hand-wringing afterwards that Trump was doing the election was rigged, the election was stolen stuff.
00:17:56.000 Everyone knows Trump thinks that way.
00:17:59.000 Anyone who is triggered by Trump saying the 2020 election was stolen is just a, I don't want to spend any time with you.
00:18:06.000 Let's put it that way, because you have no fun.
00:18:10.000 We knew that Trump would take this approach if he was on his A game and he was on his A game.
00:18:16.000 He just made a smoldering heap of CNN.
00:18:17.000 But the thing that was most delicious about all this is to watch what remaining people who may have tuned into CNN, may have been a part of CNN, to see all of them completely melt down, to see all of them say, Jake Tapper, I'll play this clip later.
00:18:31.000 He called it chilling.
00:18:33.000 They were so angry that Trump was given this forum, even though he's the frontrunner for the Republican nomination for 2020, for 2024.
00:18:41.000 He won in 2016.
00:18:43.000 It's not the end of the world to hear the man speak.
00:18:43.000 He was president.
00:18:46.000 And he's clearly an entertainer at the top of his powers, which is very refreshing.
00:18:50.000 And I couldn't have enjoyed it anymore.
00:18:52.000 Watching boycott CNN trend on Twitter was also another one that was so fun.
00:18:57.000 It was so fun.
00:18:59.000 And it was one where the CDN, if there's any audience left for CNN, then they might actually abandon the network because of that.
00:19:09.000 So a 360 victory for Trump and one I did not see coming.
00:19:12.000 I got to admit.
00:19:13.000 And I wrote a whole book on the news, Breaking the News, New York Times bestseller.
00:19:17.000 But Trump really, really showed us who's boss yesterday.
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00:20:26.000 Now, we're about to see something very rare and special.
00:20:28.000 The guest on the Charlie Kirk show right now is Charlie Kirk.
00:20:32.000 Charlie, good morning.
00:20:34.000 Alex, great to be here.
00:20:35.000 Thanks so much.
00:20:36.000 Perfect.
00:20:36.000 Perfect.
00:20:37.000 You know, we're working through some of the kinks of being in the new studio format.
00:20:41.000 It is incredible here.
00:20:42.000 You've done an amazing thing, and you deserve it.
00:20:43.000 You're one of the hardest workers in all of media and activism.
00:20:48.000 And it is a historic day, Charlie.
00:20:50.000 I know that's why you wanted to be on your show, even though you're on vacation.
00:20:52.000 And I think the audience really, really appreciates it.
00:20:55.000 I'm very tempted to go in to see if you were able to pull away to watch Trump dominate CNN yesterday.
00:21:00.000 But I got to start.
00:21:03.000 Oh, I had to.
00:21:05.000 So it's kind of funny, Alex.
00:21:07.000 You know, my idea of a vacation is a little different than most.
00:21:09.000 I was finishing off my eye surgery, which praise God went really well.
00:21:13.000 So now I could see everything in great detail.
00:21:16.000 And you've been doing amazing.
00:21:17.000 Producer Andrew did fabulous filling in, and the team has just been doing awesome.
00:21:21.000 So great, great gratitude.
00:21:23.000 And it's been a week I needed just to kind of recharge and get some medical stuff done.
00:21:27.000 But yes, how could I not watch the Trump Council?
00:21:30.000 I have several thoughts about it.
00:21:31.000 You know, candidly, privately, between our team's messages, I didn't think this was first a good idea.
00:21:37.000 I was like, man, why are we even talking to these people?
00:21:39.000 Like, why are you going on CNN?
00:21:41.000 And, you know, Blake and Andrew and the team, they kind of pushed back, like, no, this is exactly what makes Trump Trump.
00:21:47.000 And they're totally right, by the way.
00:21:48.000 And I mean, I went from a skeptic to a believer last night.
00:21:52.000 When, first of all, there's a couple takeaways.
00:21:54.000 Just if you watch the whole thing on mute, it's very clear that Trump knows exactly the body posture, the physical presence. 0.57
00:22:02.000 I mean, he just looks like a beast, right?
00:22:03.000 He just dominates the whole thing, right?
00:22:07.000 And it's just the way he, the way he talks, he looks like somebody who's in control, in charge.
00:22:12.000 And I thought he did 10 out of 10 that way.
00:22:14.000 Secondly, I just thought he looked good.
00:22:16.000 Like, he looked like he had energy.
00:22:17.000 He was calm.
00:22:18.000 He looked cool and collected.
00:22:20.000 He didn't get too fired up.
00:22:21.000 And, you know, I saw one of these tweets from one of the DeSantis super PACs, and I thought it was so weak.
00:22:26.000 They said, all Trump wanted to talk about was January 6th.
00:22:29.000 I was like, what are you talking about?
00:22:30.000 That's all he was asked the questions of.
00:22:32.000 This is not an he was responding.
00:22:35.000 And you knew how that was going to be on CNN.
00:22:37.000 The other thought I had, I mean, I have several other thoughts, but it goes to show that he wants to get back to 2016 energy.
00:22:43.000 And I think that's very important, right?
00:22:45.000 The reason Trump was so successful in 2016 is he went on Don LeMond.
00:22:51.000 He went on any show that would have him and just have this, you know, Socratic debate in the weeds, whatever you want to talk about.
00:22:59.000 And he kind of won over so many people of like, this guy has courage.
00:23:03.000 This guy has, you know, clarity of thought.
00:23:06.000 He has the stones to go actually fight for us.
00:23:10.000 And look, we could nitpick, you know, some of his stuff.
00:23:13.000 Could he have pivoted quicker?
00:23:15.000 Could he have gone away?
00:23:15.000 But I mean, Caitlin Collins did not let him go.
00:23:18.000 I mean, it's let's go find the most.
00:23:20.000 This is CNN's playbook, right?
00:23:22.000 Which is, let's find an issue where the country probably is center right, like abortion, and let's try to frame you.
00:23:28.000 Are you going to sign a national federal abortion ban?
00:23:30.000 Okay, Caitlin Collins, they can't get 51 votes to say that we shouldn't have taxpayer funding of abortion.
00:23:37.000 You think that's even realistic?
00:23:38.000 Of course not, right? 0.74
00:23:39.000 But she does that to try to make Republicans seem extreme. 1.00
00:23:43.000 She obviously interrupted him a ton, and I thought she was really out of her league.
00:23:48.000 You know, there was you had a media mastermind with kind of a JV person.
00:23:52.000 But here, here's the other takeaway.
00:23:54.000 I don't know what CNN's motives were here.
00:23:55.000 Some people are saying that they cut the town hall short.
00:23:58.000 Some people are saying, you know, they did this, you know, to kind of pull the plug.
00:24:01.000 But I think what CNN was trying to do is just a ratings pursuit.
00:24:07.000 As Fox is obviously collapsing right now, Tucker is going to Twitter.
00:24:07.000 That's right.
00:24:11.000 And I do want to talk about that.
00:24:12.000 This has been quite a week to take off, Alex.
00:24:14.000 There's been a lot happening.
00:24:15.000 But the main takeaway is this.
00:24:16.000 I called for this on the program.
00:24:18.000 I'll call for it again.
00:24:19.000 I think the primary is over.
00:24:20.000 Trump needs to be the nominee sooner rather than later.
00:24:22.000 No other candidate could do what he did last night.
00:24:25.000 And it also does have this contrast of, could you imagine Joe Biden doing 90 minutes or 70 minutes with Tucker Carlson?
00:24:33.000 Sure.
00:24:33.000 Or how about not even Tucker?
00:24:35.000 Just how about Jeff Warner?
00:24:35.000 Yeah, how about whoever's the most junior person of Jeffy Water?
00:24:38.000 No way.
00:24:39.000 Not even close.
00:24:39.000 Yeah, go ahead, Charlie.
00:24:41.000 Sure.
00:24:41.000 Yeah, sure.
00:24:43.000 Or Bill Melusian, right?
00:24:44.000 Like, let's do it.
00:24:45.000 Like, Bill Melusian's kind of a contemporary or counterpart, you know, same generation of Caitlin Collins, right?
00:24:51.000 Young asks good questions or Peter Doocy, right?
00:24:54.000 Like, let's, one of those two, could Joe Biden do 70 minutes?
00:24:58.000 No way.
00:24:58.000 And so I don't know how many people that, you know, wins over, but at least from a primary standpoint, I think it goes to show what the Republican base is demanding right now, which is we want someone who goes in blazing to go fight for the American people and is willing to even go into the most hostile environments and stand up against really difficult opposition questioning.
00:25:20.000 You know, one thing that was interesting was the reaction to Trump online from the Republicans who don't want Trump to win. 0.92
00:25:27.000 The DeSantis people made a really stupid move where they were criticizing Trump, where it was clearly a dunk-a-thon. 0.98
00:25:35.000 It was a home run derby for Trump. 1.00
00:25:36.000 It wasn't even a contest.
00:25:38.000 It was a total domination.
00:25:39.000 If the DeSantis people were savvy, wouldn't they have just said, hey, that was really awesome.
00:25:44.000 And I can't believe CNN let them put themselves up to this.
00:25:48.000 And what an embarrassment.
00:25:49.000 And kind of were at least begrudgingly congratulatory of Trump for winning the night.
00:25:54.000 Because Charlie, I said the same thing as you.
00:25:56.000 And I was going back and forth to producers last night about this topic about how I thought it was kind of low upside for Trump and he was going to give CNN a big boost.
00:26:05.000 And if you're going to stick it to Fox, stick it to Fox a different way.
00:26:08.000 And Trump made fools out of anyone who had that opinion because he was so fun and he was so light, but also substantive.
00:26:16.000 It was exactly what you want in this type of a forum.
00:26:20.000 It makes politics interesting again.
00:26:22.000 It makes current affairs interesting again.
00:26:24.000 And anyone who had a different take is clearly delusional.
00:26:28.000 No, objectively, even if you have your own concerns about Trump, it highlighted how bad Biden is.
00:26:34.000 It also shows that, okay, this guy is going to, he's playing to win, right?
00:26:37.000 This is not some sort of, I'm going to run the ball and just run out the clock.
00:26:41.000 Like, no, he's playing to win, right?
00:26:43.000 He's not going to play pre-vent defense.
00:26:45.000 He wants to win.
00:26:46.000 He wants to win the primary, wants to win the presidency.
00:26:48.000 And I thought there was also this other really interesting part where, you know, a critique is usually, oh, Trump can't stop talking about the 2020 election.
00:26:55.000 Again, they brought up the topic, okay?
00:26:57.000 I thought Trump could have done better, quite honestly, talking about the legitimate issues of the 2020 election, especially Molly Hemingway's book, the now new information about the fake letter signed by the former Intel Chiefs.
00:27:09.000 I thought that was a missed opportunity by Trump, where he could have said, Caitlin, didn't you just see that Tony Blinken orchestrated 50 Intel Chiefs with this email from John Brennan saying, I think this is a worthy cause, and they knew it was fraudulent?
00:27:20.000 How is that not rigged?
00:27:21.000 It was then used for social media censorship.
00:27:23.000 So I thought that was a missed opportunity by Trump.
00:27:26.000 However, I thought it was really interesting at one part of the town hall where Trump said, look, we're getting so close to 2024.
00:27:32.000 Let's just win it again.
00:27:33.000 It's like, ah, that's a new little wrinkle.
00:27:35.000 I haven't heard him say that before, right?
00:27:37.000 Where he's basically saying, like, look, it was bad to happen in 20.
00:27:40.000 Let's get motivated and let's go win in 2024.
00:27:43.000 And so overall, I think what we're seeing this week with Tucker going to Twitter, with Trump going to CNN, we are seeing monumental changes in the American media landscape, like serious, monumental changes that I think are largely positive, which is organizations and pundits are now going to new platforms, changing their behavior going into 24.
00:28:04.000 And for CNN, I just think it's a ratings thing.
00:28:06.000 I don't think it's anything more than that.
00:28:08.000 Some people are saying, oh, were they trying to help Trump?
00:28:09.000 No, they weren't.
00:28:10.000 I mean, they thought that Caitlin Collins would do a better job, I think.
00:28:13.000 I think she was completely steamrolled, but it was just a ratings pursuit.
00:28:16.000 And they probably just cut it off early because it was going too well or too much.
00:28:20.000 Like, you know, the cricket said a Trump rally.
00:28:24.000 But it's definitely been a significant week for the realignment of media.
00:28:28.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:28:29.000 It's been a huge week for independent media.
00:28:31.000 That's so exciting about it.
00:28:33.000 But it's interesting that one of my negatives, I think, on the night was the balance of what issues were discussed, the Eugene Carroll stuff, which is just so off the wall.
00:28:42.000 Of course, if it wasn't Trump, no one would ever care about this thing from so long ago.
00:28:48.000 And there was very minimal immigration talk.
00:28:51.000 There was no Hunter Biden, no Biden crime family talk.
00:28:54.000 And that stuff does irritate me.
00:28:55.000 But overall, CNN had a game plan to get under Trump's skin and use it to play defense for the regime, for the globalist establishment.
00:29:04.000 This was the theme of my book, Breaking the News, about how CNN is not trying to make money.
00:29:08.000 They don't even really care about ratings.
00:29:10.000 They are the palace guards for the globalist.
00:29:13.000 They operate like a super PAC.
00:29:15.000 Exactly.
00:29:15.000 They're a super PAC and they're part of Warner Brothers Discovery.
00:29:19.000 They're a huge conglomerate that brings in $30 billion a year.
00:29:22.000 No one cares how CNN does.
00:29:24.000 They only care about does CNN make it easier for Warner Brothers Discovery to do business?
00:29:29.000 And they did not do that last night.
00:29:30.000 They failed because they made Trump more powerful.
00:29:33.000 Yeah, I mean, and Caitlin Collins, Caitlin Collins just reminded me very similarly to this, you know, overly confident, over-educated 20-year-old from Wellesley or from Stanford that I go to these campuses.
00:29:46.000 And she thinks she's got it all figured out because, well, I read the Presidential Records Act too, Mr. President.
00:29:51.000 Like, okay, just calm down, Caitlin, right?
00:29:54.000 We know that you quote unquote done your homework, even though you really haven't, right?
00:29:58.000 And it was just overly eager.
00:30:00.000 And it's just so pompous, right? 0.96
00:30:03.000 So arrogant.
00:30:04.000 And I thought it was disrespectful to the office of the presidency. 1.00
00:30:07.000 Just the way that she was just trying to insert herself as just like real-time fact-checking. 0.83
00:30:12.000 By the way, your fact-checking wasn't even right.
00:30:14.000 Donald Trump did authorize the National Guard.
00:30:17.000 Donald Trump did try to get troops to go there on January 6th.
00:30:20.000 And by the way, she's like, she said something was extraordinary.
00:30:22.000 She said, actually, by definition, she is.
00:30:26.000 She 100% is.
00:30:28.000 And so, you know, that kind of archetype that Caitlin Collins represents, I've seen many, many times.
00:30:37.000 And the American left is filled with them, right?
00:30:40.000 Which is, you know, I, career over everything else, I am, you know, incredibly pompous. 0.75
00:30:47.000 I'm very smug, extraordinarily arrogant.
00:30:51.000 And, you know, there was certainly an ideological agenda there.
00:30:55.000 And then you contrast that with kind of how Tucker has operated, where he says, you know, we're the sworn enemy of pomposity and groupthink.
00:31:01.000 And I just want to add one thing to the Tucker thing, and we could talk more after the break here because, boy, I was chomping at the bit to comment on the Tucker thing.
00:31:09.000 We are seeing a, you know, with Tucker going to Twitter, kind of this boring way of doing corporate news, which Tucker was obviously the exception to that.
00:31:19.000 It's changing in real time.
00:31:20.000 The same way that we saw transportation change with the advent of the assembly line, thanks to Henry Ford, we're going to see the change of American media.
00:31:28.000 The same way that we saw everything change with communication with smartphones, you're living through it.
00:31:33.000 In 2023, 24, 25, this short period of time, the way we do news is about to completely be disrupted.
00:31:40.000 the old expensive way of cable distribution.
00:31:43.000 Tucker could be responsible for this.
00:31:45.000 You look at the video count, you look at the view count, you see it.
00:31:49.000 Charlie, I want to get your take on Tucker before we turn to immigration.
00:31:52.000 But I do want your take on the media landscape.
00:31:55.000 And it is a bad time, I think, for corporate media accountability, despite the great efforts by Breitbart and by me and by you and others.
00:32:03.000 But it is a great time for independent media also.
00:32:06.000 Yes, it is.
00:32:07.000 Yeah, and this is going to be...
00:32:09.000 This is going to be the big challenge.
00:32:10.000 And this would be both my public and private advice to Tucker, which is don't just upload to Twitter.
00:32:17.000 Pick a, you know, kind of a basket of dissident speech platforms like Rumble and upload to those, right?
00:32:26.000 I think that Rumble is one of the great potential opportunities to challenge YouTube, right?
00:32:33.000 We need to create a whole ecosystem of options.
00:32:35.000 And that's why I love what Public Square is doing.
00:32:38.000 I love what Rumble is doing.
00:32:39.000 I love the direction Twitter is going.
00:32:42.000 I was really encouraged, though, that Tucker basically, I want everyone to understand the significance of this.
00:32:49.000 Here is the blue chip blue chip, right?
00:32:52.000 The top of all conservative media is Tucker.
00:32:54.000 There's no one bigger, right?
00:32:56.000 With the passing of Rush, he's number one, right?
00:32:58.000 You could debate who number two, three, four, five is, but Tucker is number one.
00:33:02.000 And what does he do?
00:33:03.000 He says that, yeah, I'm going to post my content on a social media site.
00:33:08.000 Alex, could you imagine 10 years ago somebody saying that?
00:33:11.000 Not terrestrial radio, not even podcasting.
00:33:15.000 That shows that the game is changing in real time.
00:33:17.000 And how is it received?
00:33:19.000 Overwhelmingly positive.
00:33:21.000 It shows that viewing habits have changed.
00:33:23.000 It also, here's what I think is one of the most exciting things.
00:33:25.000 You know this, Alex.
00:33:26.000 The cost of production has gone down.
00:33:28.000 You need a microphone and a light and a pen and paper and you can all of a sudden be somebody.
00:33:32.000 That's really good.
00:33:34.000 All of a sudden, the barrier to entry for content creators and entrepreneurs in the creative space has basically gone away.
00:33:41.000 So what Tucker is going to do, hopefully, in the best case scenario, is Tucker is going to be the leader in the changing of information consumption, right?
00:33:51.000 Away from these just kind of boring networks, away from the same sort of conversations back and forth that mean nothing.
00:33:58.000 And I mean, you look at the metrics of Tucker's tweet, 25.4 million views of his latest video, 121 million people that saw it.
00:34:06.000 I mean, that's unbelievable, right?
00:34:08.000 I mean, these are Super Bowl-type metrics that Tucker is getting.
00:34:12.000 That's way more than what he was getting even on Fox.
00:34:14.000 It's way more that he could get on any network.
00:34:16.000 And I mean, this is how we've been distributing, obviously, through RAV.
00:34:19.000 We've been doing it through Rumble.
00:34:21.000 We've been doing it through everything.
00:34:22.000 I want to see this trend continue because, Alex, if enough of us that have something to say that challenge the pre-existing orthodoxies are on these networks, on these platforms, it's harder to censor us.
00:34:34.000 It's harder to shut us up.
00:34:36.000 It's easier to shut us up if we all go to the same one or two cable news channels.
00:34:40.000 That's correct.
00:34:41.000 And I do hope it works out.
00:34:43.000 I'm nervous about the existential issue that Musk has to deal with over Twitter, which is trying to make it the free speech platform and a platform that's appealing to advertisers.
00:34:53.000 And I know Tucker is in it for the right reasons.
00:34:56.000 I don't know Tucker particularly well, but I've gotten to know him a fair bit.
00:34:59.000 He's very open to communicate with people in media.
00:35:03.000 He's great about promoting our stuff at Breitbart, which we've always appreciated.
00:35:07.000 But I will tell you, I am very confident that he is in it to change the conversation and to change the narrative first and to make money second.
00:35:14.000 That's a relatively rare thing, Charlie.
00:35:16.000 A lot of people in this space want to change the world.
00:35:20.000 They want to save the country, but they really care about their bottom line first.
00:35:23.000 And it's such a special thing when you've got the number one guy is genuinely committed to moving the narrative along.
00:35:30.000 And that's something you just don't bet against.
00:35:33.000 You know, that's exactly right.
00:35:34.000 And he's not just driven by money at all.
00:35:38.000 He actually wants the country to be a better place.
00:35:40.000 And he plays a critical role in that.
00:35:42.000 And so if he can now trigger a migration away from these corporate networks to a place where all of a sudden you're able to challenge and examine and expose the deceit and the fraud that's happening both internationally and nationally, that's really important, right?
00:36:01.000 And it's critical to the fight for a free society and for the ideas that we deeply care about.
00:36:07.000 And so, you know, that's one of the most significant developments this week.
00:36:10.000 We even touched on Title 42.
00:36:12.000 I mean, obviously the Trump case and all that.
00:36:14.000 But one of the big takeaways this week is with Tucker going to Twitter and saying he's going to post on Twitter that is the blue chip blue chip.
00:36:21.000 The number one voice in the whole conservative movement media-wise is blazing a new trail.
00:36:26.000 He's setting a new trend that the Joe Rogan model of distribution is the future and the old kind of cable box way of doing things is being retired and sunset.
00:36:36.000 Yeah, I certainly hope it works.
00:36:37.000 Charlie Kirk, the host of the Charlie Kirk show, is my guest.
00:36:40.000 Thank you.
00:36:40.000 I got to run, but I will definitely be back Monday.
00:36:42.000 You're doing a great job, Alex.
00:36:44.000 So, and everyone, thank you for bearing with it and definitely be back Monday.
00:36:48.000 God bless you, Alex.
00:36:48.000 Thanks.
00:36:49.000 Appreciate you.
00:36:50.000 And that guy is an admirable man, works so hard, such great ideas, and has a great platform.
00:36:57.000 He let me fill in.
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