The Charlie Kirk Show - How Two Teens Survived Endless Lockdowns, Depression, and Suicide

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.

00:00:00.000 Today on the Charlie Kirk show, my pastor, the wonderful Pastor Rob McCoy from God Speak Calvary Chapel in Thousand Oaks, California, fills in for me as I was closing out Turning Point USA's America Fest, where he interviewed two amazing young people.

00:00:12.000 One of them tried to commit suicide and survived.

00:00:16.000 And he attributes part of his healing process to Turning Point USA.

00:00:22.000 It's very special.

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00:00:35.000 And thank you to Pastor Rob McCoy for hosting this show.

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00:01:45.000 Well, thanks for joining us on the Charlie Kirk show.

00:01:48.000 And you can tell by my voice, I'm not Charlie Kirk.

00:01:50.000 Charlie True and Audible.

00:01:51.000 He'd be a really good quarterback.

00:01:53.000 My name's Rob McCoy.

00:01:54.000 I'm Charlie Kirk's pastor.

00:01:56.000 And Charlie, of course, we're here at America Fest, and Charlie has to speak.

00:02:00.000 So he's out there right now, just busting it in front of 10,000 kids.

00:02:04.000 And it is an amazing four days that we've experienced here.

00:02:09.000 And I'm thrilled because Charlie asked me to come on and to bring two guests on that you are going to be blown away by.

00:02:16.000 I have the privilege to walk through the facilities while this event's going on and I get to meet people and hear their stories.

00:02:24.000 But actually, with one of our guests, I met her in Washington State when I was up there speaking at an event.

00:02:31.000 And this young lady is persistent.

00:02:33.000 And she just kept coming at me and kept following up. 1.00

00:02:36.000 I gave her my number.

00:02:37.000 I said, let me see how I can help.

00:02:38.000 She told me her story.

00:02:39.000 And I get hundreds of texts a day.

00:02:41.000 And I said, and she took me up on it.

00:02:43.000 I said, look, if I don't respond, just keep doing it.

00:02:46.000 I give you permission to bug me.

00:02:47.000 And she didn't bug me, but she was persistent.

00:02:50.000 And her name is Melanie.

00:02:51.000 And you're going to hear this story.

00:02:52.000 It's going to rip your heart out.

00:02:54.000 It's so precious.

00:02:56.000 And I'm not going to tell it.

00:02:58.000 I'll set the stage for you.

00:02:59.000 But this is what Turning Point's about.

00:03:01.000 And this is how Charlie Kirk is touching lives.

00:03:05.000 And I'm so thankful for this man.

00:03:07.000 Melanie, I want the folks to meet you.

00:03:09.000 This is Melanie Gabriel.

00:03:11.000 Tell everyone how old you are and where you're from.

00:03:13.000 Yeah, so I'm from Vancouver, Washington.

00:03:15.000 I'm 14 years old, but when this had all started, I was 13 years old.

00:03:20.000 And tell them what started.

00:03:22.000 So I have a legitimate medical condition that physically keeps me from wearing a mask.

00:03:28.000 And when I brought it to my school, we came up with a few accommodations that I could go to school maskless and everybody could still feel safe in somewhat of a way.

00:03:40.000 So these accommodations would include arriving at school as a separate time of anyone.

00:03:46.000 I'd leave school at a separate time.

00:03:48.000 I'd have separate passing periods than everyone.

00:03:51.000 I'd sit in the back of the classroom.

00:03:53.000 Like a little bit of apartheid here.

00:03:54.000 Yeah.

00:03:55.000 All right.

00:03:55.000 And I'd have to carry papers with me so that if any.

00:04:00.000 If anybody asked me why I was maskless, I could hand over my papers.

00:04:04.000 Now, wait a minute.

00:04:06.000 That was a joke.

00:04:07.000 But you're Jewish. 0.95

00:04:08.000 Yeah.

00:04:08.000 And that's kind of frightening, isn't it?

00:04:10.000 Yes.

00:04:11.000 I'm sorry, Melly.

00:04:11.000 Go ahead.

00:04:13.000 So we had agreed on those.

00:04:16.000 We asked them to take out the papers part since it was extremely offensive to me.

00:04:20.000 And they did.

00:04:22.000 So I come to my first day of school, and when I get there, the doors are locked and we're not allowed in the building.

00:04:27.000 They say, unless you put a mask on, you can't go into school.

00:04:31.000 And you've got a medical condition.

00:04:32.000 Yeah, I did.

00:04:33.000 And you've got legitimacy on this.

00:04:35.000 So what happens at this point?

00:04:36.000 And now you're an AP student.

00:04:38.000 You're a really good student.

00:04:40.000 You're smart.

00:04:40.000 Not like me.

00:04:41.000 You are smart.

00:04:43.000 Yeah, I'd applied for the SMT program, which is science, meth, and technology that you have to have a certain set of skills to get into.

00:04:50.000 So I was really excited to go to school at my school.

00:04:54.000 But when we figured out that they weren't going to let us in, we went home.

00:04:58.000 We didn't know what else to do.

00:05:00.000 But on the second day, we weren't going to put up with that anymore.

00:05:04.000 It's not fair.

00:05:04.000 I have a right to an equal education.

00:05:08.000 So when we got there, my principal and a security guard was there, and I had to force my way through them to get into class.

00:05:16.000 And I made it to all my classes that day, but I really wasn't able to learn anything because I was constantly being harassed about not wearing a mask.

00:05:24.000 So what happens?

00:05:25.000 Now, do they end up putting you in a different part of the school?

00:05:29.000 Are you alienated, ostracized?

00:05:31.000 What happens?

00:05:32.000 Well, currently, if I choose to go to school, which I haven't been to school in quite a while, because they won't accommodate you.

00:05:39.000 Yeah, no, they won't accommodate me.

00:05:41.000 Their accommodations are they take me out of my mainstream classes, so my SMT classes, and they put me in a credit recovery class for seniors who are failing high school.

00:05:51.000 And I have to sit in a three-wall plexiglass box.

00:05:54.000 So your mom, Megan, her tax dollars with this public education, you're now relegated to the back of the, I mean, you're just, it's awful what they've done to you.

00:06:05.000 Yeah.

00:06:06.000 And in the course of this, you're watching friends go through depression.

00:06:09.000 When you met me, you were 13.

00:06:10.000 Now you're 14.

00:06:11.000 Yeah.

00:06:11.000 You're watching friends go through depression.

00:06:13.000 And you lost two friends to suicide.

00:06:15.000 Is that what I heard?

00:06:15.000 Yeah, I've lost two.

00:06:17.000 Okay, so sitting to your left is this young man, and you met him.

00:06:22.000 And his name, you go by Tay.

00:06:25.000 Tay or Tay.

00:06:26.000 Tavin.

00:06:26.000 Tay.

00:06:27.000 I'm going to call you Tay.

00:06:28.000 I like it.

00:06:30.000 Tay, you're 14.

00:06:31.000 Yes.

00:06:32.000 And you were living in Washington.

00:06:33.000 You're now here in Arizona because you're going to the Brain Institute getting medical conditions.

00:06:38.000 So you were helping folks who were suffering with depression, your age group.

00:06:42.000 And you hear about Tay.

00:06:44.000 Tay, you're standing.

00:06:46.000 You're a miracle, man. 1.00

00:06:48.000 You should be dead right now. 1.00

00:06:49.000 I should, yeah. 1.00

00:06:50.000 You were so depressed.

00:06:52.000 Talking to the mic if you went.

00:06:53.000 You were so depressed that what did you do?

00:06:56.000 Tell the folks who were listening.

00:06:58.000 So at age 13, I took a nine millimeter and I shot myself.

00:07:06.000 And I had like a 2% chance of survival.

00:07:12.000 I was in coma for nine days.

00:07:16.000 Tay, I'm so sorry, man.

00:07:17.000 No, you're good.

00:07:19.000 So it was a lot of like hospital therapy at first.

00:07:26.000 And then we made the decision to move down here because Barrows is down here and it's the largest neurological institution in the world.

00:07:36.000 Let me back it up.

00:07:38.000 What would bring you to a place where you would put a gun to the back of your head at four or 13 years of age?

00:07:44.000 The whole world's in front of you.

00:07:46.000 What depressed you so much, Day?

00:07:48.000 It was just like the lockdowns and there was no social interaction whatsoever.

00:07:52.000 Nothing.

00:07:53.000 Like you could talk to your family, but that was it.

00:07:55.000 And nobody's talking about this.

00:07:57.000 We're isolating you for a 99.7% survival.

00:08:00.000 We can mess with it.

00:08:01.000 I mean, but we know.

00:08:03.000 But they don't talk about what you are dealing with.

00:08:06.000 Your generation and the depression sitting in front of me is a 14-year-old young man who had a 2% chance of living.

00:08:12.000 And I know, I can see the paralysis, but that smile is captivating.

00:08:17.000 Are you happy to be alive, Dave?

00:08:19.000 Oh, way.

00:08:20.000 And it was a big mistake.

00:08:22.000 And how did the two of you guys meet?

00:08:23.000 Because you guys seem like two peas in a pot.

00:08:25.000 Friends.

00:08:26.000 Best of friends.

00:08:27.000 Yeah, so I heard about Taven, and I was really interested in his story.

00:08:33.000 I just, I couldn't believe that he survived that.

00:08:38.000 So I reached out to him.

00:08:39.000 Will you go to the hospital?

00:08:42.000 So since COVID, I wasn't allowed to go visit him in the hospital.

00:08:46.000 Everybody gets isolated.

00:08:47.000 Yeah.

00:08:48.000 And apparently, I was doing an interview talking about my friends who had successfully committed.

00:08:54.000 And apparently, Taven's dad had seen me on the news in the hospital talking about youth mental health.

00:09:00.000 And so it was kind of like a mutual connection.

00:09:03.000 We both reached out to each other.

00:09:05.000 And the day Taven got out of the hospital, I went over to his house and I hung out with him from the moment he was out of the hospital till he left for Arizona.

00:09:15.000 That's precious.

00:09:16.000 And now he's in Arizona.

00:09:17.000 You miss him?

00:09:17.000 I miss him so much.

00:09:18.000 Well, I'm glad you guys are good.

00:09:19.000 Now, tell me, is this your first time in a turning point event, Day?

00:09:22.000 Yeah, I know.

00:09:23.000 It's my first time and first time being on the podcast.

00:09:27.000 Tell everybody what brought you to Turning Point and what have these four days meant to you?

00:09:32.000 The four days mean a ton to me, and I didn't expect as much as I'm getting out of it.

00:09:38.000 Like, there's so many cool people here.

00:09:40.000 And do you hate America?

00:09:44.000 No.

00:09:46.000 Not even in the slightest.

00:09:47.000 Do you have a bright future ahead of you?

00:09:48.000 I think so.

00:09:49.000 Yeah.

00:09:50.000 Hope so.

00:09:51.000 Yeah, I can see it in his eyes.

00:09:52.000 It's so cool.

00:09:54.000 Melanie, share with folks, you have a heart for your generation and the depression they're going through.

00:09:59.000 Yeah.

00:10:00.000 You have been interceding on behalf of guys like Day and others because your heart's been broken by your friends that you lost.

00:10:07.000 And now you're isolated.

00:10:08.000 You want the story to get out.

00:10:10.000 Is that right?

00:10:10.000 Yeah.

00:10:11.000 So why did you bug me?

00:10:14.000 I'm messing with you.

00:10:15.000 Well, you're like an inspiration to me.

00:10:20.000 You know how to talk.

00:10:21.000 You know how to grasp people's attention.

00:10:23.000 I wasn't looking for a compliment, Melanie.

00:10:25.000 What I was looking for, I'm sorry.

00:10:27.000 I was trying to set you up there.

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00:12:03.000 Folks across the country need to hear this because we're talking about a fear of a virus and we're watching a generation being so adversely affected by the tyrannical lockdown orders and you both lost your schools and you lost friends.

00:12:20.000 Tay, you almost lost your life.

00:12:23.000 So in front of me is Melanie Gabriel.

00:12:26.000 And Melanie's 14 years young.

00:12:28.000 I met her when she was 13 when I was in Washington.

00:12:31.000 You came up to me and you wanted to tell me that here you are, a straight A student, AP, you want to go into, you know, you love education.

00:12:39.000 I'm not smart.

00:12:40.000 You are. 0.53

00:12:41.000 And you are being ostracized.

00:12:43.000 It's basically medical apartheid because you have a medical condition and you cannot wear a mask.

00:12:50.000 They isolate you and put you in a remedial class.

00:12:53.000 Your mom Megan's paying tax dollars and you're not getting the education that is promised to us. 0.93

00:13:00.000 And so you're struggling.

00:13:01.000 So you're not in school.

00:13:03.000 They're not even, that's just not happening anymore.

00:13:05.000 You went before the school board at your age to take them on and to contend with them.

00:13:10.000 And in the midst of all that you're dealing with, you lose two friends to suicide because your entire generation is dealing with depression.

00:13:16.000 And none of these medical officers and these officials are talking about it.

00:13:20.000 You lost two friends to suicide.

00:13:22.000 And then you hear about this young man who you tried to try to kill yourself.

00:13:31.000 You put a, what's it, nine millimeters of what you said?

00:13:34.000 Yeah.

00:13:34.000 To the back of your head.

00:13:35.000 And you had a 2% chance of living.

00:13:37.000 Now you're in front of us.

00:13:38.000 You're a walking miracle.

00:13:39.000 And you reached out and the two of you are friends.

00:13:42.000 The two of you can speak to the rest of the nation about how your generation is being so adversely affected by this insanity.

00:13:50.000 Melanie, you have America's audience listening on the Charlie Kirk show.

00:13:55.000 Tell everyone what it's done to your generation.

00:13:57.000 What has this done?

00:13:58.000 These lockdowns.

00:14:00.000 Tell me.

00:14:01.000 I know, like youth suicide rates have gone.

00:14:04.000 They've skyrocketed during the pandemic.

00:14:07.000 And a lot of teenagers are getting really depressed.

00:14:11.000 And they just, with everything closed and everything being taken away from them, they find it hard to find a reason to keep going.

00:14:19.000 I know I've found myself being like, this is this two weeks to flatten the curb is dragged on for so long.

00:14:26.000 Is it ever going to get better?

00:14:28.000 I always say the last variant of COVID is going to be totalitarianism.

00:14:31.000 But you're in Washington.

00:14:33.000 I'm in California.

00:14:34.000 And I think this is, we're in two of the nine states that have draconian measures.

00:14:39.000 Now you're here with the health that you're dealing with in Arizona.

00:14:46.000 So you get to enjoy kind of somewhat of a freer state.

00:14:49.000 And we don't have to wear masks and things, even though there's, but you and I have to deal with that in Washington and California.

00:14:54.000 Yeah.

00:14:55.000 And it's massive depression.

00:14:57.000 What's happened with your generation?

00:14:59.000 Tell me about your friends, and especially the two you lost.

00:15:01.000 Yeah.

00:15:02.000 So my two friends, Olivia and London, they took their lives a week apart from each other.

00:15:10.000 And it was because of the lockdowns.

00:15:14.000 All of their sports closed.

00:15:17.000 London was a star on her volleyball team.

00:15:20.000 And they couldn't see their friends anymore.

00:15:23.000 They couldn't go to school.

00:15:25.000 Everything was shut down.

00:15:27.000 And they couldn't find a reason to keep going anymore.

00:15:32.000 You have a reason to keep going.

00:15:33.000 You keep ministering to people, caring for them.

00:15:35.000 Now, we're not of the same faith.

00:15:36.000 You're Jewish. 0.75

00:15:36.000 I'm Christian. 0.75

00:15:38.000 Have we even talked about really your faith, but it doesn't matter.

00:15:43.000 You're remarkable.

00:15:45.000 And now tell everyone out there.

00:15:47.000 We got a little bit of time left.

00:15:48.000 Everybody out there right now, what brought you to this place of despair?

00:15:52.000 Because everyone will be able to see it in that generation.

00:15:55.000 Uh, there was like no sports were open, uh, every single one that you had closed.

00:16:01.000 Uh, the schools they were shut, like the schools were all shut down.

00:16:06.000 Uh, you had to wear masks, and you it was like parents wouldn't let their children outside because they were scared of COVID.

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00:18:16.000 I asked you what brought you to that place of depression that you would want to take your life, put a gun to the back of your head and pull that trigger, and you had a 2% chance of living.

00:18:27.000 And you said something that absolutely stunned me.

00:18:29.000 I want America to hear this.

00:18:31.000 You said, I thought it would what I thought it wouldn't like end ever.

00:18:35.000 I thought it was permanent.

00:18:36.000 The lockdowns would never end.

00:18:37.000 Yeah.

00:18:38.000 At 14 years of age, we're two years into this.

00:18:40.000 That's one seventh of your life.

00:18:42.000 I'm 57.

00:18:42.000 It's like, I will get through this.

00:18:44.000 It's just an administration, and they're stupid. 1.00

00:18:46.000 But this is your life. 1.00

00:18:48.000 And that was one seven.

00:18:49.000 That's the depression you guys are feeling.

00:18:51.000 You can't process this.

00:18:52.000 Your schools are closed.

00:18:54.000 Your friendships are shuttered.

00:18:56.000 Your life is dramatically changed.

00:18:58.000 There's no dances.

00:18:59.000 There's no proms.

00:19:00.000 There's no football games.

00:19:02.000 It's all gone.

00:19:03.000 And you're Melanie.

00:19:04.000 Two of your friends, as you shared, she was a volleyball player, star volleyball player. 0.85

00:19:08.000 She's gone.

00:19:08.000 Yeah.

00:19:09.000 This, that's, America, did you hear that?

00:19:12.000 This will never end.

00:19:14.000 This is this is what the young people are feeling as we're sequestering them, shuttering them, especially in nine of the 50 states that have draconian measures.

00:19:21.000 You and I, Melanie, live in two of those, California and Washington.

00:19:25.000 And where are these health officials talking about the trauma on our teenagers?

00:19:29.000 They're not.

00:19:30.000 Yeah, no, they aren't.

00:19:31.000 Melanie, you want to add anything to that?

00:19:33.000 Because I know, Tate, that was such a profound statement.

00:19:35.000 This will never end.

00:19:36.000 You want to add to that?

00:19:37.000 I think he's totally right.

00:19:39.000 I know it's how I felt.

00:19:40.000 I know that's how London and Olivia felt.

00:19:44.000 And I bet that's how most of America's youth felt.

00:19:47.000 That this is just never going to end.

00:19:49.000 This is just how we're going to live for the rest of our lives.

00:19:52.000 And it takes away our childhood.

00:19:56.000 Like we're growing up.

00:19:58.000 And the past two years, I didn't know.

00:20:01.000 Like, am I going to be able to have a normal high school experience?

00:20:05.000 Am I going to be able to go to prom like a normal kid?

00:20:08.000 Am I going to be able to do all of these things that I was so excited for?

00:20:13.000 Like it was so scary thinking about all of that being taken away from me.

00:20:19.000 Well, and I'm, and I'm, like I said to the folks, I've met you in Washington, but I met you here at the turning point event, hey, and you were brought here.

00:20:27.000 Melanie brought you.

00:20:28.000 And this has been four days of fun for you guys.

00:20:28.000 Right.

00:20:30.000 Oh, yeah.

00:20:31.000 Remarkable speakers.

00:20:33.000 You know, Officer Tatum.

00:20:34.000 I mean, we had Jack Hibbs speak.

00:20:37.000 We can go down the list of the folks who've come.

00:20:39.000 Who's been your favorite speaker and what has it meant to you?

00:20:42.000 Because I see two bright, smiling faces in front of me, a hope for the future, a love for America.

00:20:47.000 You don't hate America.

00:20:48.000 And your mom was telling me, Melanie, that she was, you red-pilled her.

00:20:53.000 Well done, girl.

00:20:54.000 All right.

00:20:54.000 So, so, so, who've been your favorites?

00:20:56.000 And how's it, how's it inspired you?

00:20:58.000 Uh, Kyle Rittenhouse is definitely wasn't he remarkable?

00:21:01.000 Yeah.

00:21:02.000 Uh, he's definitely my favorite because he was just so genuine and like straightforward.

00:21:06.000 Yeah.

00:21:07.000 And like he was so emotional.

00:21:09.000 So you could tell like he was being pure.

00:21:11.000 I had a chance to talk with him afterwards, and there's no guile in him.

00:21:14.000 He's just a genuine down-to-earth guy.

00:21:17.000 Yeah.

00:21:18.000 And vilified in the media.

00:21:20.000 Melanie, how about you, dear?

00:21:21.000 Definitely, Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:21:22.000 Oh, gosh.

00:21:23.000 You got a little crush on him?

00:21:25.000 Who are we going on that one?

00:21:26.000 We smiled on that one.

00:21:27.000 I wasn't sure.

00:21:29.000 So, but, but you enjoyed him.

00:21:30.000 Yeah, he's definitely an inspiration to the youth.

00:21:34.000 Yeah.

00:21:34.000 He did everything right.

00:21:35.000 He did everything right.

00:21:37.000 Yeah.

00:21:37.000 No matter what the media says about him, he keeps a smile on his face.

00:21:41.000 He pushes through it.

00:21:42.000 His perseverance is really inspiring.

00:21:45.000 The fact that he was able to live through that and go through all the court stuff, it's just, it's inspiring.

00:21:52.000 Yeah.

00:21:53.000 Standing up.

00:21:55.000 Yeah.

00:21:56.000 All right.

00:21:56.000 Second favorite.

00:21:57.000 Because you both have the same one, so we can't.

00:22:00.000 I'd say Charlie, just because, I mean, he's hosted this event and he's put, I mean, he's had so many people come together for this.

00:22:08.000 And it's just like super cool.

00:22:10.000 I agree.

00:22:11.000 You know, as much as I love Charlie, I'm going to have to go with Tucker.

00:22:14.000 I could not stop laughing during his speech.

00:22:17.000 Tucker's a funny guy.

00:22:18.000 He's so amazing.

00:22:19.000 It seems like when he comes to these events, he takes his tie off.

00:22:22.000 He relaxes.

00:22:23.000 And he came out and he was stunned at the size of the crowd.

00:22:26.000 10,000 people here.

00:22:27.000 He said it's the largest crowd he'd ever spoken to.

00:22:29.000 Wow.

00:22:29.000 Yeah.

00:22:30.000 Tucker's, Tucker's pretty amazing.

00:22:30.000 Yeah.

00:22:32.000 Yeah.

00:22:33.000 Yeah.

00:22:33.000 So, so has this given you a hope for your future at 14?

00:22:37.000 I know both of you have been through trauma.

00:22:39.000 I know that the current administration and all that's happening to your generation is overwhelming.

00:22:45.000 But tell me, how has this encouraged you?

00:22:50.000 I think for me personally, I've seen a lot of college students here.

00:22:55.000 I've seen a few high school students here as well.

00:22:55.000 Yeah.

00:22:58.000 So knowing that there are people closer to my age that have the same beliefs as me, who do want to like stand up for freedom and stuff is, it gives me hope.

00:23:09.000 And I think if we can educate others about what we believe, I think I know I've talked to quite a few people who have changed their ideas about certain things.

00:23:19.000 Your mom being one of them.

00:23:20.000 My mom being one of them.

00:23:22.000 Yeah.

00:23:23.000 I think with enough information and enough persuasion, we can take back the youth and we can take back America. 0.68

00:23:31.000 Man.

00:23:32.000 Well, how about you?

00:23:33.000 Tay, tell everybody what.

00:23:36.000 I just really like.

00:23:39.000 Well, I mean, like, I also, I really like, and I also really don't like how The administration is treating everybody.

00:23:47.000 Yeah. 0.96

00:23:48.000 Because they're treating everybody like garbage, quite frankly. 0.97

00:23:52.000 But it's mostly children because like the youth, as you were saying, they're just being put down and put in the gutter. 0.98

00:24:03.000 Yeah, you're being manipulated and you're being used as a pawn.

00:24:07.000 It seems to me.

00:24:08.000 That would be my thought.

00:24:09.000 Well, it's age discrimination is really what it is.

00:24:12.000 Because we're children, we're inferior.

00:24:14.000 And they're going to tell you what to do.

00:24:16.000 Yeah.

00:24:17.000 That is not a constitutional republic.

00:24:19.000 No.

00:24:19.000 Yeah.

00:24:20.000 That's an oligarchy. 0.96

00:24:22.000 And you come here and you start to realize that these freedoms only come when you exercise them.

00:24:28.000 Will you share with the folks, Melanie, what'd you do at the school board?

00:24:30.000 You're 14.

00:24:31.000 What'd you do, bro?

00:24:31.000 Come on.

00:24:32.000 So I, at the end of our school board, our end of our last in-person school board meeting, I served my board with legal documents and I told them that.

00:24:43.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:24:44.000 Your mom's a single parent. 0.94

00:24:46.000 You don't have money for an attorney.

00:24:47.000 Where'd you get the attorney?

00:24:48.000 You didn't have one.

00:24:49.000 No, it was just me and my mom.

00:24:51.000 Yeah.

00:24:51.000 You guys read.

00:24:52.000 Yeah, we did some heavy research and we read it all.

00:24:56.000 We wrote it up and we served them with it and we told them that your recall petitions are on their way.

00:25:02.000 We're working on signatures to get them.

00:25:05.000 We're going to get it.

00:25:06.000 So you're going to get a recall petition in your community at 14 years of age.

00:25:10.000 You just looked at them and you said, I'm not taking this anymore.

00:25:13.000 If adults aren't going to do it, I'm going to do it.

00:25:14.000 And I don't want to dismiss your mom because she's been with you every step of the way.

00:25:18.000 I'm just trying to encourage folks out there.

00:25:20.000 You have a generation that needs your help.

00:25:22.000 And they're being absolutely bludgeoned by tyranny to the point where they want to take their life and attempt to take their life.

00:25:22.000 Yeah.

00:25:30.000 And now they want their life back.

00:25:34.000 I think, Tay, I think even your survival is a picture of your generation.

00:25:39.000 Yeah.

00:25:40.000 It was hopeless.

00:25:41.000 And I'm looking at you now and there's not hopelessness in your eyes.

00:25:45.000 You're pretty excited.

00:25:45.000 No.

00:25:47.000 I'm excited for what's next.

00:25:48.000 Yeah.

00:25:50.000 So what do you guys?

00:25:51.000 What do you want to do?

00:25:52.000 You're 14.

00:25:53.000 What do you want to do?

00:25:54.000 First of all, we want to get through this mess and you want to fight to end it next.

00:26:00.000 I don't really know yet because I'm also 14.

00:26:03.000 So I'm not ready for the decisions yet.

00:26:06.000 Yeah.

00:26:07.000 But yeah, I'm just hoping to make America greater.

00:26:10.000 I love that.

00:26:12.000 Go Tay.

00:26:13.000 Melanie?

00:26:14.000 I think for about two or three years now, I've had a step-by-step plan on how I want to live life.

00:26:20.000 Shocking.

00:26:23.000 I plan on going to college for political science and becoming a lawyer for a few years, probably like four or five years, and then slowly working my way up through the government and hopefully becoming president one day.

00:26:36.000 That's my home for Melanie Gabriel for president.

00:26:39.000 Thank you.

00:26:40.000 Yeah, that's great.

00:26:41.000 No aspirations for office day?

00:26:44.000 I don't know yet because like I don't know if being president fit me.

00:26:52.000 I think it would fit her better.

00:26:53.000 Oh, vice president.

00:26:54.000 How about that?

00:26:56.000 No, I'd be completely fine with that.

00:26:58.000 Yeah, no, I'd do that.

00:26:59.000 It just seems like a lot of work.

00:27:01.000 I mean, I definitely think I could do better than Biden right now.

00:27:06.000 Yeah.

00:27:07.000 How could you guys, I mean, your mom, by your own admission, was not a conservative.

00:27:13.000 How did you guys come to a place where you want to come to a turning point of that, where you're hearing the premier conservative speakers in America?

00:27:20.000 Why would 14-year-olds want to come and listen to people talk?

00:27:22.000 What's wrong with you people?

00:27:23.000 Yeah, my mom tells me that all the time.

00:27:26.000 She's like, you know, normal girls fangirl over Justin Bieber, but you're over here screaming over Kyle Rittenhouse. 1.00

00:27:32.000 I think it is funny that we're so engaged at this age.

00:27:36.000 It's 10,000 others doing the same thing your age.

00:27:36.000 But it's not you.

00:27:39.000 Yeah.

00:27:40.000 What compels you guys?

00:27:42.000 I think, like, Having hearing all of this, hearing people's ideas that I strongly agree with, that it's just, it's inspiring and it fills me with so much joy that I lack when I am at home, not at school.

00:28:00.000 Yeah.

00:28:01.000 So it's, it's definitely a good dosage of serotonin.

00:28:05.000 Yeah.

00:28:06.000 You guys were telling me that the lockdown, you guys had to do school over Zoom.

00:28:09.000 And I would always tell people as a minister, watching church online is like watching a fireplace.

00:28:14.000 You can hear it and see it, but you can't feel the warmth.

00:28:16.000 Going to school online, I don't blame you guys for being so bummed out and depressed, but you guys, instead of just being victims of it, you are more than victors.

00:28:30.000 You're conquerors.

00:28:31.000 You're making a difference.

00:28:32.000 You're just saying, I'm not going to take it.

00:28:34.000 And you guys are here and you're unifying and you're taking on school boards.

00:28:38.000 You survived and you're ready to live.

00:28:41.000 I'm so blessed by you guys.

00:28:43.000 So I want to talk a little bit more about your generation.

00:28:46.000 I want to talk about where we go from here and how folks across America can encourage the young people and what's needed to stop these officials from doing what they're doing.

00:28:58.000 Because, you know, we're dealing with the medical viral side of this and we're just up in arms and we're showing data to scare the daylights out of people, but they don't talk about the mental health that is devastating our young people.

00:29:11.000 And you guys have been a tremendous testimony of that today.

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00:29:25.000 Consumer confidence just hit a 10-year low and inflation hit 6.8% with parts of the United States seeing rates as high as 8%.

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00:30:10.000 14-year-olds aren't typically political.

00:30:12.000 Yeah.

00:30:12.000 And yet we're here at AmericaFest.

00:30:14.000 There's 10,000 young people.

00:30:16.000 And you're thinking, don't you have anything better to do than to sit, you know, and listen to, you know, Gorka and Tucker?

00:30:24.000 And yet you guys can't get enough of it.

00:30:25.000 As a matter of fact, I watched this, the place is packed with 10,000 kids when the speakers are going.

00:30:30.000 And then you bring out the country bands and the crowd dwindles.

00:30:34.000 And when the speakers come out, it increases.

00:30:36.000 You guys are intellectual.

00:30:38.000 You want ammunition in your mind to be able to contend with the freedoms that are being taken by this tyranny.

00:30:46.000 You want to be able to fight for your generation.

00:30:49.000 And I want to set this up for the two of you to speak.

00:30:51.000 As a minister, pastors across the country, they usually stay out of politics because they believe, I believe inappropriately, that there's a separation of church and state.

00:31:03.000 Well, let's just say they believe that.

00:31:04.000 Well, now the state has infused itself into the church.

00:31:07.000 And so churches are being forced to be political.

00:31:11.000 Same with your generation. 0.97

00:31:13.000 Most of your friends were not political.

00:31:15.000 They weren't into this stuff.

00:31:17.000 But now they've ruined your life.

00:31:18.000 And now you're getting upset.

00:31:20.000 Is that a fair assessment?

00:31:21.000 Yeah.

00:31:22.000 Elaborate.

00:31:24.000 For me, I think it was, I think it's the same for you, Elonie.

00:31:31.000 It just completely took over because like politics and everything.

00:31:36.000 Okay.

00:31:37.000 So for instance, when we were in like, say, kindergarten, like it wasn't a thing.

00:31:42.000 Like politics weren't brought up whatsoever.

00:31:45.000 And then here we are now in 2021, and it's all you hear about.

00:31:52.000 And it's really sad because people have like lost their lives to suicide more this year than any other year.

00:32:04.000 Tay, when you guys are in school, is it education or indoctrination?

00:32:09.000 Do you just see that they're putting forward an indoctrination to you?

00:32:13.000 Because you come to an event like this, you're like, wait a minute, there's something different here.

00:32:17.000 Are you seeing this?

00:32:19.000 A little bit.

00:32:20.000 Because I'm in Arizona.

00:32:22.000 Yeah.

00:32:22.000 But I live here.

00:32:23.000 When I lived in Washington, 100% though.

00:32:26.000 You were telling me all your friends of Washington.

00:32:28.000 It was like, that's all.

00:32:30.000 If you strayed from the liberal line, you were ostracized.

00:32:33.000 Would that be accurate?

00:32:35.000 That's a perfectly fair examination.

00:32:38.000 And well, Melmie, let's close it out.

00:32:42.000 Tell them folks, you got inspired by this.

00:32:45.000 You were moved by this.

00:32:46.000 Here you have Tay as a friend because you reached out in a time where he was in his crisis because you lost two friends.

00:32:51.000 We're seeing redemption in your generation that has been devastated by this tyrannical lockdown and misery that they've perpetrated on y'all.

00:33:00.000 We help America understand how we can get out of this and what you need the adults in the room to do.

00:33:08.000 Would you plead to them and talk to them for me?

00:33:10.000 Yeah.

00:33:11.000 You got about a minute.

00:33:12.000 Come on, tell them.

00:33:13.000 All right.

00:33:14.000 I think the best thing that you can do for us is get your kids involved.

00:33:20.000 We're the future.

00:33:21.000 We are the future of this country.

00:33:23.000 And it's really important that us as youth get involved, whether that's big events or just talking to your local school board.

00:33:32.000 It doesn't have to be big.

00:33:33.000 It doesn't have to be all of a sudden.

00:33:34.000 You can slowly ease them into it.

00:33:37.000 And if it's something they really don't want to do, then don't push them to.

00:33:41.000 But if they are complaining about the things that are happening and they want to do something about it, they just don't know where to start.

00:33:48.000 Help them.

00:33:49.000 Help them.

00:33:50.000 Perfect.

00:33:50.000 Go to.

00:33:51.000 Yeah.

00:33:52.000 You can't change something unless you make an effort.

00:33:54.000 And I love the fact everywhere you go, you never wear a mask.

00:33:59.000 You are a brave young lady.

00:34:01.000 And Tay, you're a brave young man.

00:34:04.000 It has been such an honor to sit with the two of you.

00:34:06.000 Folks, support this generation.

00:34:08.000 They've been abused.

00:34:09.000 No more lockdowns.

00:34:10.000 God bless the two of you.

00:34:12.000 You have been on the Charlie Kirk show, and I get to fill in.

00:34:15.000 That's so exciting.

00:34:18.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:20.000 Email us your thoughts at Zoe's Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

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00:34:29.000 God bless you guys.

00:34:29.000 Speak to you soon.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - December 22, 2021

How Two Teens Survived Endless Lockdowns, Depression, and Suicide

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