00:00:02.000It is Pride Month, and we talk about how liberation movements might start from a good place, but they do not end up in a good place.
00:00:08.000I talk about how I was tricked personally.
00:00:11.000I think a lot of you are in the same kind of seat that I'm in when it comes to this, kind of the same stage of life.
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00:02:51.000So it's lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex, and asexual.
00:02:56.000So this could be best demonstrated by what is called the gender unicorn, which is used in a lot of schools to try to teach children kind of how they feel sexually.
00:03:37.000And that was, I think, the consensus amongst a lot of Americans.
00:03:39.000In fact, I believe that is still the consensus amongst a lot of Americans.
00:03:44.000But in recent years, it seems as if the liberation movements that we have grown so accustomed, accustomed to, have changed from just kind of live and let live to if you do not subscribe or agree with my viewpoint, if you do not allow me to teach your children, if you do not allow me to run your government in a certain way, then I'm going to punish you, I'm going to mock you, I'm going to ridicule you.
00:04:12.000You're going to have to get into line.
00:04:15.000And so today is the first day of Pride Month.
00:04:17.000This is going to be 30 plus days of this.
00:04:21.000And it's more than just kind of an expression of gender sexuality, which in and of itself is why you need a whole month dedicated towards your own particular gender sexuality is really kind of a mystery to me, I'll be very honest.
00:04:37.000But putting that aside, that's not anything I'm going to overly emphasize or criticize.
00:04:43.000It has now metamorphosized and transitioned from something that is, I'm going to, you know, we want equal respect or we want marriage equality to now it's almost an evangelistic enterprise where the focus to bring forward these ideas into the military, into our schools with children, is unmatched and completely unprecedented.
00:05:08.000I think a lot of you are probably in the same boat that I'm in, where you grew up with some friends and family members and with co-workers that are gay and they're decent, good people and they love their country and they do a wonderful job as far as their work.
00:05:28.000And I think a lot of people are in the same position I'm in, where you grew up in a country where you want everyone to be treated with dignity and respect.
00:05:36.000You don't want anyone to be, you know, kind of talked down to or stereotyped.
00:05:40.000I don't want to live in that country and you don't either.
00:05:42.000And so that was kind of an anchor for a lot of us, understandably.
00:05:46.000But I think that kind of good intention has been completely and totally taken advantage of now.
00:05:52.000Where that good intention that a lot of us have that anchors us that are not part of that sexual identity community has now turned into we're going to teach your children, we're going to redefine what kind of like regular sexual norms are.
00:06:09.000And a lot of us that kind of grew up with the mentality of, okay, live and let live, we feel as if we've been taken advantage of.
00:06:17.000We understand that good intentions don't always lead to good public policy.
00:06:21.000And quite honestly, we never should have let our guard down.
00:06:25.000To be very transparent and honest, it's we're at a moment in time where, regardless of kind of the ideal of live and let live, that is not the country we're living in right now.
00:06:37.000Where the liberation movements of whether it be the kind of gay liberation movement, that we're constantly oppressed and that we need more rights.
00:06:46.000And okay, it has gone from we want to break free of all the oppression to now having a tendency to almost become this very arrogant mob of revenge that we now need to go into the schools,
00:07:05.000that we need to go enact some sort of retribution for the society and the civilization and the people that we feel have harmed us so significantly.
00:07:18.000So I grew up in a country where the number one debate was marriage equality.
00:07:23.000It was all about trying to allow people the same opportunity to have equal marriage.
00:07:30.000Now, I've never supported it because I believe marriage should be between one man and one woman.
00:07:36.000Marriage, I believe, is a sacred institution.
00:07:39.000However, I'll be honest, I wasn't that fired up about it.
00:07:42.000I had a laissez-faire attitude at one chapter in my life towards it.
00:07:49.000Because I was naive enough, and I think a lot of us are in the same boat.
00:07:53.000I was naive enough to believe this would end the debate, that this was going to be a moment for us to turn the page so we could talk about more pressing issues, like the national debt or border security or, you know. constitutional liberties and rights being deteriorated or the fourth branch of government.
00:08:16.000I was never for it, but I was naive enough to think, huh, this will no longer be an issue.
00:08:40.000We'll never have to talk about that again because it just felt so unnecessarily intimate and personal, right?
00:08:47.000It felt so kind of overly, it was almost an overfixation on these issues.
00:08:55.000And now we're living through a moment where we realize that, and I'll be the first one to admit, I made a terrible mistake in 2015, 16, and 17, believing for a second that these activists would take the win.
00:09:12.000That somehow this massive infrastructure of hundreds of millions of dollars supporting gay activism was somehow just going to kind of become defunct because they got marriage equality.
00:09:24.000In fact, the numbers show that after marriage equality, which overturned state-based rules on this, that the marriage rates barely went up at all in the gay and lesbian communities.
00:09:40.000We went from marriage equality between adults to now entertaining the idea of chemical castration in children via the trans debate in less than a decade.
00:09:57.000We went from a movement that was clear that a man is a man and men are attracted to men to there's no such thing as men and there's no such thing as women.
00:10:06.000And I believe a lot of you are in the same boat that I'm in, is that you're getting a little uneasy and a little bit anxious, not anxious, but you're a little irritated.
00:10:16.000You're a little upset because you said, look, I was cool with all of this.
00:10:21.000Not necessarily supportive, but you were neutral.
00:10:46.000I'm not going to act as if this is normal and good for our civilization because it's not.
00:10:52.000If you go down to the core of the term liberal, part of what to liberalize a society would be is to free the society or to liberate the society.
00:11:03.000Those of us that are conservatives, in the root of the word conservative, is to protect or to conserve things that we know that are good or that are true or that are beautiful so they last and they are sustained.
00:11:17.000Now, some parts of liberalism, such as freedom of speech or some of the fruits of the Enlightenment, scientific inquiry, separation of powers, consent to the governed, are things that we enjoy to this day.
00:11:30.000I mean, there are elements of the United States Constitution that are small L liberal.
00:11:35.000However, the Constitution itself is not a liberal document.
00:11:39.000In fact, this is a false teaching that is done in many law schools and in many legal departments and in many universities where they look at the United States Constitution as merely a liberal document, when in reality, it's probably 10 to 15% a liberal document, small L-liberal document, but it's a vast majority conservative document.
00:12:00.000In fact, it's the most conservative governmental instrument in the history of the world.
00:12:06.000And I'll give you one piece of evidence to support that.
00:12:09.000It's very hard to radically change things with the United States Constitution.
00:12:15.000If the United States Constitution was simply and solely a liberal instrument, well, then by a simple democratic vote, up or down vote, you would be able to take people's guns away, to be able to shut them up.
00:12:26.000You should be able to take their property away.
00:12:28.000The Founding Fathers made it difficult to be able to do bold revolutionary things, to be able to go on bold revolutionary endeavors.
00:12:36.000So these ideas of an independent judiciary spreading power over space and time made the Constitution a conservative document.
00:12:48.000And now when I use conservative liberal, I'm using lowercase.
00:12:55.000And so throughout the last 40 or 50 years, this is best summarized, by the way, by a brilliant author who I'd love to have on the program at some point by the name of Christopher Caldwell.
00:13:05.000He wrote a book called Age of Entitlement.
00:13:07.000And you've heard me talk about this book many times on air, where he talks about really in the 1960s to today, the kind of good intention lobby, that would be us.
00:13:19.000I used to be part of the good intention world or the lobby or the community.
00:13:22.000We were largely taken advantage of by people that preyed on our good intentions and were able to subvert our society, our laws, our customs, our institutions, our bureaucracies to be able to not liberalize or liberate America, but actually make it more authoritarian and in some ways, less free.
00:14:09.000But if we kind of live and let live and allow you to do what you want to do as long as it doesn't harm somebody else, well, then everything will be fine.
00:14:17.000And I used to say this nonsense on campuses because it sounds good in an idealistic utopian venture if you do not understand the malevolence or the insidious nature or the kind of commitment the other side has to actually violating this, which I used to go to college campuses and say the following line, well, you should be able to do whatever you want to do as long as it doesn't harm somebody else.
00:14:43.000It appeals to a young student like, oh, yeah, the non-aggression principle.
00:14:47.000But it's also incredibly short-sighted when you realize the side that you're actually brokering that deal with is they have no interest in actually living in a free society where you can do whatever you want to do whenever you want to do it as long as it doesn't harm somebody else.
00:15:01.000Instead, they want to be able to get the instruments of power to force you to do what they want to do so you stop doing what you want to do.
00:15:10.000And just recently, I think now conservatives are waking up and like, wow, we kind of had brokered this peace deal and it was all a lie.
00:15:43.000There's a gay pride flag now outside of the Holy See that our State Department has as an official government-sponsored activity in support of Pride Month.
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00:18:13.000On every single one of these kinds of neo-liberal issues and policies, the intention was nowhere correlated with the output.
00:18:29.000And yet we keep on judging policies based on the original intention.
00:18:34.000A sign of a mature and prudent and strong society is one that can differentiate between the original intent of the nation or the population and actually how that policy has impacted people.
00:18:52.000And so I'm the first one to say that back in the early 2012, 13, 14, and 15, I had intentions that I believed on immigration, on, as we mentioned, the LGBT issue, on international trade, and even some foreign policy stuff, that all of this will align beautifully with kind of these neoliberal promises.
00:19:23.000But as I've grown older, I realize that my intentions aside, and intention shouldn't be completely sidelined.
00:19:32.000I think intentions can anchor you towards kind of a moral centeredness to make sure you're not making public policy just from kind of a craven, backwards, dark place.
00:19:45.000I think good intentions need to be articulated and need to be factored in.
00:19:51.000But by no means are they the driving force or should they be, especially after the multiple decades of carnage we have around us of where those good intentions lead us.
00:20:06.000The good intentions of, oh, yeah, we're going to shut down all of our factories and we're going to send all those jobs to China and we're going to get plastic in return.
00:20:17.000And at almost no point did anyone say, like, hold on, time out.
00:20:21.000This actually isn't really working as well as you said it was.
00:20:24.000Like, we were all on board for it kind of when you mapped it out on the whiteboard.
00:20:28.000It sounded really good when McKinsey came into Greencastle, Indiana, and they said they were going to shut down all the factories.
00:20:35.000Like, oh, yeah, you know, we need to try to increase our opportunity cost.
00:20:40.000And it's kind of the overemphasis on economics, professor, to be perfectly honest, and no factoring of social cost or national security implications or whether or not we have a muscular class or whether or not we're able to have the ability to make critical goods and services if you have a pandemic or a shutdown.
00:20:59.000None of those things were factored in because we just keep on going back to this incantation, which is, well, if it sounds good, then let's do it.
00:21:10.000And the lack of adjustment, I think, from our nation's rulers and our elites is one of the reasons why I think we're all kind of sitting on this soon to erupt volcano pressure cooker, which is you're just asking for your leaders to do what many of us are kind of doing, which is adjust, adapt, change course, say, oh, wow, there's a big storm coming up here.
00:21:37.000We're going to have to go north 50 miles to make sure we don't keep on going through it because the turbulence really is rather irrational.
00:21:45.000No, instead, it's this is your pilot speaking.
00:21:48.000You're an idiot and you're not feeling that.
00:21:51.000And it creates a massive amount of dissension amongst the body politic where they see the negative implications of them saying, well, if it sounds good, let's do it.
00:22:02.000Like, actually, no, it's not doing good.
00:22:04.000Like, actually, no, the LGBT thing has gone far too far.
00:22:11.000Where you're now in schools, where you're having drag queen story hours regularly for children.
00:22:18.000And yet the good intentions that many of us feel, we're now kind of understandably de-emphasizing it.
00:22:31.000And the kind of lack of remorse or the lack of honest recognition from the people that designed this kind of liberal order is extraordinary.
00:22:44.000And look, I mean, in some ways, many of us are kind of philosophical moderates, and we've only become more conservative in recent years because there's almost nothing anchoring or slowing down the kind of persistent and sudden kind of revolutionary fervor where we kind of see the tension between the preservation of what is good, true, and beautiful.
00:23:12.000And then also at times, are there some fruits of the Enlightenment?
00:23:17.000Are there things that we should consider where we don't want to just be closed-minded for closed-minded sake?
00:23:22.000It's going to take a very good argument for us to want to change something, but there's been plenty of things over the last couple of decades that have been positive innovations and positive breakthroughs.
00:23:38.000And so that's kind of that balance and that tension where we say, wow, the kind of proliferation of freedom of speech over the last couple hundred years as a new development for civilization, that's a beautiful thing.
00:23:52.000That we like that people are allowed to speak and allowed to be able to have their ideas heard.
00:23:59.000However, many of us are now, and I'm become incredibly conservative, largely because of the kind of out-of-control nature of where the ship is going.
00:24:15.000We're going to keep on liberating groups and we're going to then keep on empowering people that then turn to these revenge mobs, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, like time out.
00:24:23.000What exactly are you progressing towards?
00:24:26.000Do you not care about the negative externalities or the consequences?
00:24:30.000Do you not care about children that are being taught these things?
00:25:28.000As I mentioned, the Holy See, which is a diplomatic mission, which is the diplomatic mission of the United States to the Holy See, a term referring to the central government and universal reach of the Roman Catholic Church, has a massive gay flag right now outside of the Holy See in Rome.
00:25:51.000The United States has said, quote, today is the start of Pride Month, the United States and the Holy See.
00:25:57.000The United States represents and respects and promotes the equality and human dignity of all people, including the LGBTQIA community.
00:26:12.000That's right, the few, the proud, the Marines.
00:26:17.000We have two Marines that work for us and do a great job at Turning Point USA.
00:26:22.000They tweeted out today: quote, throughout June, the United States Marine Corps takes hashtag pride in recognizing and honoring the contributions of our LGBTQ service members.
00:26:34.000We remain committed to fostering an environment of free from discrimination and defend the values of treating all equally with dignity and respect.
00:26:43.000And they have a picture of the Marine helmet with bullets kind of around the helmet, if you will.
00:26:51.000I'm not describing it well, but basically, how do I best describe this?
00:26:56.000There's a band around the helmet and there are bullets and all the bullets have the gay pride colors.
00:27:03.000The bullets are all kind of different colors.
00:27:06.000So it's the rainbow bullets, if you will.
00:27:11.000Do the rainbow bullets kill people better than the regular bullets?
00:27:15.000Is the mission of the United States military to be kind of a social experiment or is it to defend America against our enemies and kill our enemies quickly?
00:27:52.000Like, we're not going to keep on just playing along with these kind of liberation movements just for the sake of doing the liberation movements.
00:28:00.000Like liberalism for the sake of liberalism will get you a complete and totally deteriorated society.
00:28:05.000You must have some things that don't change or people are just going to go mad.
00:28:44.000If you remove and abolish and obliterate with force and with incredible hubris everything that came before you and tell young people there's nothing worthy of study or appreciation there, what are you going to fill that void with?
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00:29:22.000Today's nonsense comes from our inflater-in-chief, Joe Biden.
00:29:25.000As higher prices grip the country, Washington elitists want to blame everything except their own actions, from COVID to supply chains to Putin.
00:29:35.000The truth is that we have inflation because of the left's socialist agenda.
00:29:39.000Free money in the form of benefits means too many dollars chasing too few goods.
00:29:43.000The left's war on oil and gas makes energy scarce, and their fuel mandates hike the cost of diesel, which means everything you buy at the grocery store is more expensive.
00:29:53.000Companies go along with this because of socialist ESG investing.
00:29:56.000This is when liberal fund managers like Fidelity and BlackRock use your hard-earned retirement dollars to pressure American companies into supporting liberal policies.
00:30:06.000And these companies aren't just bad actors when it comes to your investment dollars.
00:30:09.000They also take the money you spend to give it to liberal causes, just like Starbucks.
00:30:14.000They give their customers money to organizations like Black Lives Matter and Planned Parenthood.
00:31:04.000So we're in a kind of a set of circumstances here where the question is, well, then what do we do next?
00:31:14.000Well, I think part of the reason why the activist groups have been so successful, and one of the reasons why they have been so incredibly effective, is many of us want to try and appease.
00:31:32.000We don't want to be inherently disagreeable.
00:31:36.000I have a belief that as you go up the kind of competency hierarchy, if you go up the kind of elite hierarchy, if you will, people that are the high levels of political decision-making and corporate decision-making, is when it comes to these kind of controversial issues, is they try to broker some sort of a peace deal.
00:32:02.000This is something I find especially in high net worth communities.
00:32:05.000And it's understandable because you're not able to build a business or run a business by just being kind of dogmatically in one position.
00:32:15.000So it's completely and totally understandable.
00:32:17.000You're trying to broker a merger and acquisition.
00:32:19.000You're trying to solve an employee dispute.
00:32:22.000And so a lot of people at the highest levels of the income distribution in America, they look at this, they say, oh, come on, there's got to be kind of a middle ground.
00:32:31.000And for a long time, there was a middle ground.
00:32:35.000There was a middle ground between kind of, well, you know, the kind of radical LGBT stuff and believing in traditional marriage.
00:32:45.000And what is a difficult thing for some people to recognize and realize, and albeit it's happening at a rapid pace, is that the other side really has no interest in brokering any sort of a peace deal.
00:33:18.000It is offensive, not offensive as an offensive, but it's offensive as trying to take terrain.
00:33:25.000And look, a lot of the kind of middle ground or kind of return to normal kind of people, I think that even a lot of people in the gay community don't like a lot of this kind of trans evangelism.
00:33:41.000The problem is the, even if it's a minority, I don't know.
00:33:44.000I don't know if it's a minority of the gay community or not, but it's a very, very vocal part.
00:33:52.000And so we kind of look at all these issues.
00:33:55.000And the race issue is another one, by the way, because our intention is no one wants to be called a racist.