The Charlie Kirk Show - 'How We Win' — A LIVE Q&A on Vaccines, Confederate Statues, Courage, and Victory from Emmanuel Enid Church in Oklahoma

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00:01:14.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:47.000 All right, Mr. Kirk.

00:01:48.000 It's Charlie Unchained.

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00:01:51.000 Everything earlier was Charlie chained, especially the 7:30 a.m. service.

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00:02:01.000 Oh, my goodness.

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00:02:11.000 Charlie, thank you for being here.

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00:02:17.000 We're just going to dive right into it.

00:02:19.000 We've got a lot of questions that have been asked.

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00:02:30.000 We've got some ground rules, but we are videoing this, and Charlie and his team will be broadcasting it as well on their sites.

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00:02:40.000 Now, understand this: if you're offended, okay, listen, dialogue is what debate is all about.

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00:03:04.000 Listen to him.

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00:03:09.000 So let's begin.

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00:03:11.000 All right, Charlie, I want to ask you a question.

00:03:15.000 What do you think about vaccine mandates?

00:03:18.000 Yeah, let's start with the most non-controversial.

00:03:21.000 Okay, there we go.

00:03:22.000 No, I actually love it.

00:03:23.000 I requested it.

00:03:25.000 So, yeah, look, I'll give you a little, first of all, let me just tell you, I'm not getting vaccinated.

00:03:30.000 I'm not going to be forced to get vaccinated.

00:03:32.000 I'm going to say that publicly.

00:03:33.000 It's not going to happen.

00:03:35.000 And so, but I want to be very clear.

00:03:38.000 Don't, and just every single one of you, make sure you don't ridicule or mock or intimidate or make people feel bad if they made their own personal medical decision.

00:03:47.000 I mean, this whole lot new framing of that we're going to ask everyone their personal medical history and you walk into a place of business is not only immoral, it's really creepy, actually.

00:03:56.000 It's like, oh, yeah, I need you to show me your entire testing history.

00:04:00.000 Like, that's really, that's a bridge too far.

00:04:01.000 We have HIPAA laws in this country, and we need to defend, we need to actually enforce them.

00:04:06.000 But look, I've never really been that interested in this issue.

00:04:09.000 They made me interested in it because of how hyper-aggressive they have been pushing this thing over the last couple months.

00:04:17.000 And so, back in November of last year, I said at a church very similar to this, my friend Greg Farrington's church up in Rockland, California.

00:04:24.000 He said, Charlie, are you going to get the vaccine?

00:04:26.000 And we didn't really even know what we were dealing with back then.

00:04:28.000 I said, No, I'm not.

00:04:30.000 I said, Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, not being overweight, you know, vitamin D, zinc, and being, you know, 27 years old, I wouldn't consider to take some experimental vaccine for me.

00:04:40.000 And my opinion has not changed on this.

00:04:43.000 And then all of a sudden, I started to realize their tone changed.

00:04:45.000 It went from a potential option for people, which is the way they marketed it in March and April, to all of a sudden, if you don't get the vaccine, we are going to reconfigure and reorganize society and we're going to punish you.

00:04:59.000 So I started to see this happen in April, and we did a podcast on it.

00:05:03.000 Very few people listened to us, and no one in the Republican Party listened to us.

00:05:06.000 They said, Oh, you're a fearmonger, you're scaring people.

00:05:09.000 I said, No, no, no, it's going to happen by the summer where they're not going to let you into bars and restaurants if you don't have proof of vaccination.

00:05:14.000 We were called conspiracy theorists by the Washington Post, New York Times, Huffington Post, all these people.

00:05:20.000 And so, again, I really never was that, this wasn't a passion project for mine, but I would always go to events similar to this, and people would come up to me with these binders full of stories and testimony of very sincere arguments about how mass inoculation for children is having negative effects.

00:05:39.000 And again, I really wasn't that interested in it.

00:05:42.000 And I said, Okay, yeah, thank you.

00:05:43.000 You know, it's great, I'll read it.

00:05:45.000 And I did, and I really wasn't that moved.

00:05:47.000 But then, all of a sudden, I got interested in this topic in early May.

00:05:51.000 My wife and I got married May 8th.

00:05:53.000 The last podcast I did before going on getting married and going on our honeymoon was the least controversial podcast you could do, which basically asking my audience, Hey, can you tell me personal experiences of people that you know that have taken the vaccine that have had an adverse event?

00:06:09.000 Then I just turned off my laptop and went away for two weeks, right?

00:06:12.000 What a great, don't do that.

00:06:14.000 And so, came back to 6,000 emails, comments, messages of personal testimony of the most unbelievable things you could read.

00:06:25.000 And you know, after the 500th email of people that don't know each other from different parts of the country that are saying the same thing, you realize there might be a trend and a pattern behind this.

00:06:36.000 And when you start to hear, like, oh, yeah, my dad was perfectly healthy, and then he got the second Moderna shot and he dropped dead, huh?

00:06:42.000 That's not normal.

00:06:44.000 I was seven months pregnant, and I got the vaccine at the insistence of my doctor, and I miscarried.

00:06:50.000 And so, you start to hear these stories time and time again, and you say, Okay, maybe it's a one-off, maybe it's bias, it's sample bias, is the way you'd call it.

00:06:58.000 Then, I really got my attention when I saw a guy who's really been mean to me over the years, Dr. Brett Weinstein, who's a secular atheist, evolutionary biologist from Seattle.

00:07:11.000 He sends this video out, and I said, Okay, timeout.

00:07:14.000 And it says, How I got red-pilled on the COVID vaccine.

00:07:17.000 I said, You would be the last person in the world that I would expect would ever speak out about the vaccine.

00:07:24.000 You watch this video, he has it with the founder of the mRNA vaccine, Dr. Robert Malone, and they start talking about it.

00:07:31.000 And basically, his stance was that this vaccine was not like any others, it involved the spike protein, and you really should be careful before you take it.

00:07:39.000 Of course, the video was removed from YouTube, you know, completely memory-hold, right?

00:07:43.000 Memory hole is a term from George Orwell's 1984.

00:07:46.000 And I said, Okay, something really sinister is going on here.

00:07:49.000 The fact we can't even have dialogue, which is a great word, by the way, it's the Greek word dia-thru, logos reason.

00:07:55.000 So that's what we're missing in America today, which is our ability to actually walk through and have a conversation and a discourse about these things.

00:08:03.000 So I said, okay, at Turning Point USA, we are going to be the only mainstream conservative organization, I guess, that's going to speak out against mandatory vaccinations.

00:08:10.000 And the kind of emphasis on mandatory, again, if you think it's a great thing, then go do it.

00:08:17.000 I'm not going to tell you what the best medical decisions are for you.

00:08:20.000 Everyone, the idea of personalization is what has always made Western medicine at least somewhat attractive to the rest of the world.

00:08:27.000 So if you think it's your right decision, go do it.

00:08:29.000 Just don't force me to do it.

00:08:30.000 And so we launched this in early July called No Forced Vax, mostly to defend students on college campuses that were being forced to get the vaccine against their will.

00:08:41.000 And I'll be very honest with you.

00:08:43.000 I've been stunned at how the Republican Party has betrayed us on this.

00:08:48.000 How the Republican Party has...

00:08:51.000 And by the way, even if you're the biggest vaccine advocate in the world, you should be equally upset that they're willing to use the levers of corporate and government power to force experimental medicine on your children.

00:09:02.000 That is evil.

00:09:03.000 And so we put people in positions of political power to defend us against the abuse of power.

00:09:09.000 That's why we show up in record numbers and go vote.

00:09:12.000 Basically, we know Republicans are going to do nothing bold and ambitious.

00:09:15.000 Very least is like, don't take our guns, don't close down the churches.

00:09:19.000 And if they try to radically alter our way of life, get in the way.

00:09:22.000 Okay, do you hear me, Republicans?

00:09:24.000 I'll speak in very clear words for you to understand.

00:09:26.000 I'll speak slowly.

00:09:28.000 I'll give you clear instructions.

00:09:30.000 Don't alter our way of life, right?

00:09:33.000 We like the way we live, especially when it comes to experimental medicine, right?

00:09:37.000 And instead, you have the opposite.

00:09:39.000 And you have Republicans.

00:09:41.000 And again, I don't know state politics here in Oklahoma.

00:09:43.000 You can comment on that wade.

00:09:44.000 I can say in other states, you have governors forcing the vaccine, saying if you don't take the vaccine, you can't go to places of business.

00:09:51.000 You can't go to school.

00:09:52.000 You can't go to college.

00:09:54.000 And then in a stunning turn of events, you have Trump-appointed Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who sees an appeal on forced vaccinations for the Indiana University in Bloomington, Indiana, for forced vaccinations, which would have applied to 18,000 18, 19, 20, 21-year-olds that have such a minuscule chance of dying from the Chinese coronavirus, you can't even measure it.

00:10:18.000 And they say, well, it's to keep the children safe.

00:10:20.000 I say, hold on.

00:10:21.000 If it's to keep the children, first of all, they're 18, 19, and 20-year-olds.

00:10:24.000 They're not children.

00:10:24.000 Second of all, if it's to keep them safe, why don't you go ban driving?

00:10:28.000 It is more dangerous to go drive to Bloomington, Indiana, than to get the Chinese coronavirus at age 19.

00:10:34.000 That is statistically true.

00:10:38.000 We lose 37,000 people on average on the streets every single year in America.

00:10:42.000 We lose 1,800 people a year a day to cancer.

00:10:46.000 We lose 1,700 a day to heart disease.

00:10:50.000 We lose hundreds of people a day to suicide.

00:10:52.000 And we lose hundreds of people to just accidents, suffocation, and just unexplained accidents.

00:10:57.000 That's part of life.

00:10:58.000 Yet we've entered into this cult of safetyism where somehow the people in charge have made this false promise and this false bargain that it's such against the American promise and our American contract.

00:11:11.000 But I wanted to say this.

00:11:12.000 Amy Coney Barrett decides not to defend her voters.

00:11:15.000 Well, no one really voted for her, but I guess we kind of did, right?

00:11:17.000 We showed up in record numbers.

00:11:18.000 We're like, okay, Republican senators, we'll give you the Republican Senate.

00:11:21.000 Go give us judges that will defend our way of life against the metropolitan elite that are going to try to crush us.

00:11:27.000 And what you're seeing is places where we are right now in Eden, North Dakota, in Oklahoma, not North Dakota.

00:11:33.000 Jeez, I'm going there next week.

00:11:34.000 Enid, Oklahoma, where they don't like your way of life.

00:11:38.000 They want to destroy this.

00:11:39.000 They want to crush you. 0.99

00:11:41.000 They call you the smelly Walmart people. 0.98

00:11:43.000 And they do.

00:11:44.000 You should hear the way your leaders talk about you.

00:11:47.000 They have contempt for you on the federal level and on the state level.

00:11:51.000 They want to try to turn Oklahoma into nothing more than a producing colony for the rest of the country. 0.79

00:11:57.000 And I want to be very clear.

00:11:58.000 These people work for us.

00:12:00.000 We put them there.

00:12:01.000 And if they're not going to follow these clear instructions, then we have to start to resort to other means, which is recalling these people, primarying these people, until you have Republicans that you put in office that actually defend the voters that put them there in the first place so that we can pursue the American way of life.

00:12:18.000 Amen.

00:12:23.000 Okay, Charlie, a couple of things.

00:12:25.000 First of all, here in the Enid, the people who smell really good go to Atwood's.

00:12:30.000 Okay, I just want you to know.

00:12:31.000 I agree.

00:12:32.000 Okay, there we go.

00:12:34.000 Okay, hey, listen.

00:12:36.000 So if I hear you right, what you're saying is, look, you're not telling people who have chosen to be vaccinated because personally, they've taken that risk ratio measurement and said, I think it's best for me.

00:12:49.000 You're not saying, oh, no, no, shame on you.

00:12:51.000 What you're saying is, I resist the mandatory nature of vaccines.

00:12:57.000 Yes, I mean, what I have is a rather moderate political position on this.

00:13:02.000 And I'm called this like extremist.

00:13:04.000 I say, don't force people to take experimental medicine.

00:13:07.000 How is that an extreme political position?

00:13:10.000 19-year-olds shouldn't be forced to take things that there's a lot of questions about.

00:13:10.000 Right?

00:13:14.000 And somehow we've allowed ourselves to get categorized.

00:13:18.000 How did we allow that to happen?

00:13:19.000 Well, because the metaphorical bodyguards for us are leaders to secure the blessings of liberty.

00:13:26.000 That word secure is a really important word.

00:13:28.000 Secure security.

00:13:30.000 We elect these people to kind of make sure the threats don't hit us, to stave off the defenses.

00:13:37.000 And so, yeah, and then I will also contribute to the conversation, which I have earlier, just to think openly about the vaccine and just go do your research.

00:13:46.000 I am not an expert on the mRNA vaccine, but I have been completely underwhelmed by the experts talking about this.

00:13:53.000 We know, according to Axios, the Pfizer vaccine was 42% effective in July.

00:13:58.000 42% effective.

00:13:59.000 The most vaccinated countries in the world are the ones that now have the greatest spike in the Chinese coronavirus.

00:14:05.000 We know that's true.

00:14:06.000 And we also know that other treatments like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine could be a great option for people.

00:14:11.000 However, that's not a good business model for the main pharmaceutical companies.

00:14:16.000 Mass inoculation is profitable.

00:14:18.000 You might have a booster shot, and it might create other issues.

00:14:20.000 We don't know if it will or not.

00:14:22.000 And so, yeah, that's my position.

00:14:24.000 And I also think that if our leaders would have embraced this message, it actually would have been really politically popular.

00:14:33.000 Instead, they went all in on this for whatever reason, maybe it's because they're crony campaign donors and contributors and the flow of money or whatever, or just the lack of moral courage and the gutless wonders that run the Republican Party in our country.

00:14:47.000 And they basically said, oh, yeah, just kind of eventually that number is going to go down.

00:14:52.000 And so I'm willing to play out the consequences of this.

00:14:57.000 And I said this at lunch.

00:14:59.000 You can kind of go through the list, right?

00:15:01.000 You can go through the list of people that would be considered high profile.

00:15:05.000 I think I'm the most vocal person that has said publicly that I won't get vaccinated with multi-millions of followers.

00:15:13.000 I could be wrong.

00:15:14.000 There might be other people.

00:15:15.000 Candace Owens has said the same, but like there's only a couple of us.

00:15:18.000 And, you know, Tucker has spoken out courageously on this.

00:15:22.000 But if you go look at the other people, I mean, it is conform at gunpoint.

00:15:27.000 I refuse to do that for no other purpose than if your leaders are not going to defend you, I'll do my best to defend you.

00:15:33.000 Like, I'm not going to do this.

00:15:34.000 And if they're going to have to, it will have to happen at gunpoint.

00:15:39.000 I'm not going to do that.

00:15:40.000 And so if your leaders won't be bodyguards for you, then you know what?

00:15:44.000 The people in the public eye will.

00:15:46.000 I will take the arrows for all of you that refuse to get vaccinated.

00:15:48.000 Let them, and they do, by the way, they write front page articles on the Washington Post that I'm somehow like a domestic terror threat because I say a moderate political position that you shouldn't be forced to take experimental medicine.

00:15:57.000 That's what our own government says, by the way.

00:15:59.000 Department of Homeland Security terrorism bulletin two days ago came out that the greatest threat to the homeland was people that asked questions about the Chinese coronavirus and experimental medicine vaccine mandates.

00:16:12.000 Thank goodness for the founding fathers that we still have some semblance.

00:16:16.000 Imagine what they would do if we didn't have a Fourth Amendment, right? 1.00

00:16:18.000 I mean, well, they really still do that, but at least we have the peace of mind that we could eventually maybe sue eventually if they do this stuff.

00:16:25.000 But yeah, this is really dangerous times, Wade.

00:16:27.000 And I refuse to conform at gunpoint and social pressure.

00:16:33.000 You guys can all make your own decision.

00:16:34.000 Obviously, I sense more sympathy than not here.

00:16:37.000 But even if you're fully vaccinated, listen to this online on our podcast right now.

00:16:41.000 This should give you the chills.

00:16:44.000 The way they are advancing, the way they think they can social control you and your children, and that you will do what they tell you to do.

00:16:53.000 That's not America.

00:16:54.000 I refuse to abide by that.

00:16:56.000 Charlie, great job.

00:17:00.000 Very clear.

00:17:02.000 Now, you mentioned something.

00:17:03.000 You said the leaders, the powers that be.

00:17:06.000 And at lunch, you said something interesting.

00:17:09.000 I'd never heard this before.

00:17:12.000 The question is often asked, who's pulling the strings?

00:17:15.000 Who's in power?

00:17:16.000 What's going on here?

00:17:18.000 And you gave a take that I thought was very interesting.

00:17:21.000 I'd like for you to repeat that.

00:17:23.000 Yeah, so this is a really interesting question, which is who's in charge of the regime, right?

00:17:27.000 So we know this regime, and we should call them a regime, by the way.

00:17:30.000 Use that word when you describe them.

00:17:32.000 Don't call them the Biden administration.

00:17:34.000 Don't call them the government.

00:17:36.000 Call them the regime, okay?

00:17:39.000 And that's the accurate term. 0.95

00:17:41.000 If you kind of go back to what government is, the way they're ruling and the way they're implementing policy.

00:17:46.000 I'm trying, if I could have a couple impacts on the Zeitgeist, if all of a sudden I start hearing regime from everyday people, then I will have done my job because that's what they are.

00:17:54.000 So this regime, it's a really interesting thing.

00:17:57.000 So yes, it's true that there's crony corporate donors influencing.

00:18:00.000 It's totally true that there's this mid-level of the FBI and the NIH and kind of the scientists.

00:18:06.000 You know, Socrates wrote a lot about this.

00:18:08.000 Socrates said, a civilization will destroy itself if you allow scientists to run your country.

00:18:14.000 It's like, that's what a beautiful piece of wisdom.

00:18:16.000 Why?

00:18:17.000 Because scientists don't engage in moral decisions.

00:18:21.000 You cannot find morality just looking at cause and effect in the scientific method.

00:18:28.000 That's where you need philosophers and theologians and pastors and priests to tell you right from wrong.

00:18:33.000 So as soon as you give up the entire instruments of society to scientists, watch out.

00:18:36.000 It's not to say that scientists have no role in society.

00:18:39.000 Obviously they do.

00:18:40.000 But when you are governed merely by science, you will end up with eugenics. 0.88

00:18:44.000 You will end up with population control.

00:18:46.000 That is the logical conclusion of allowing scientists to govern you.

00:18:50.000 Okay, so who's in charge?

00:18:52.000 I have an interesting take on this, which I actually think the narrative is in charge.

00:18:57.000 And I'll prove it to you.

00:18:58.000 So Fauci was on one of these shows.

00:19:00.000 By the way, Fauci should have been fired on day one. 0.65

00:19:03.000 He is the most disgraceful person in the American government. 0.77

00:19:07.000 And what a real disgrace, honestly, to our country and the people that serve in our country so wonderfully in the military to have to be represented by this apparatchik who lies constantly and is so self-interested. 0.71

00:19:23.000 The highest paid employee in the entire federal bureaucracy is Anthony Fauci.

00:19:28.000 Anyway, so Fauci was on one of these shows and someone asked him a good question.

00:19:34.000 They said, well, Fauci, I refuse to call him Dr. Fauci, by the way.

00:19:37.000 I just call him Fauci.

00:19:38.000 So the doctor title has been gone.

00:19:42.000 It's gone.

00:19:43.000 It's Fauci, okay?

00:19:44.000 So Fauci.

00:19:46.000 Like doctor, doctor of what?

00:19:48.000 Of destruction is what he is.

00:19:50.000 Yeah, so they say, um, so Fauci, is it true that we really shouldn't, you know, do warm embraces with our family members?

00:19:59.000 You know, shouldn't kiss, shouldn't hug.

00:20:01.000 He says, oh, yes, that's exactly true.

00:20:03.000 No more kissing, no more hugging, nothing, just bubble.

00:20:11.000 And so then the host asked a really good follow-up question, right?

00:20:14.000 Which the host said, well, then why did you say that it was perfectly safe for teenagers and college kids to do hookup culture on Tinder?

00:20:22.000 And he knew that they got him, and he weaseled out of it, but he knew that the narrative on the left of premarital sex was so important that he couldn't violate that.

00:20:36.000 That even if it was contradictory to the science, there were certain holy objects on the left, the narrative, that you don't touch.

00:20:44.000 I'll prove it to you again.

00:20:45.000 Why is it that all of a sudden they said, you have to stop congregating, got to slow the spread, and they allowed BLM to walk through the streets for months because that narrative was holy to them, right?

00:20:55.000 The narrative actually is running the country.

00:20:57.000 Now, who actually designs the narrative is a completely different question, but they're all committed to it.

00:21:03.000 And no matter what, the new narrative, of course, if you look around this room, that if you watch CNN and MSNBC, they are committed to believe that the people in this room are the greatest terror threat to our civilization.

00:21:17.000 I want you to understand the significance of that.

00:21:19.000 I want you to go reread Biden's inaugural address.

00:21:22.000 He declared war on you.

00:21:25.000 This is the first time a sitting president of the United States declared domestic war on the citizens.

00:21:31.000 He was just tasked with governing.

00:21:34.000 They're not talking like people that want to run the country.

00:21:36.000 They're talking about people that want to obliterate their opponents.

00:21:39.000 This is a whole different way to talk about the citizenry.

00:21:42.000 You go read that DHS bulletin from two days ago.

00:21:46.000 They're saying that you are more dangerous at the 20-year anniversary than the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, or Islamic fundamentalism.

00:21:56.000 That you are.

00:21:57.000 That it's Trump voters and people in flying.

00:22:00.000 How do they think this is going to end exactly?

00:22:03.000 The answer to that is they want a confrontation.

00:22:06.000 They want to try to provoke it because it justifies the security state.

00:22:11.000 It justifies their own power.

00:22:13.000 So yeah, who's in charge?

00:22:15.000 I would submit it's really the narrative.

00:22:17.000 I think they are submitted, I think they are beholden to a set of unquestioned ideas and kind of holy relics on the left of mass movements, of social protests, even if they're completely contradictory to what's actually happening.

00:22:33.000 I'll prove it to you again, right?

00:22:34.000 They say for all summer, last summer, Black Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter.

00:22:38.000 Okay, well, then why won't you ever comment about the fact that in the last month, 75 black people were shot, killed in Chicago?

00:22:44.000 Oh, no, we don't care about that.

00:22:46.000 Right?

00:22:46.000 So it's the narrative that is actually more important than the reality.

00:22:50.000 And then there also is this managerial class, right?

00:22:52.000 And this is the other part of it, which is a group of unelected, unknown, and unchecked bureaucrats that are running our government. 1.00

00:23:00.000 And this is another thing the Republican Party has refused to do through the Senate and the House, is they have just completely and routinely, this non-stop delegated all their political power to this unchecked, unelected monolith of 5 million people in the federal bureaucracy that run NIH and CDC and the IRS, and they have created their own government.

00:23:21.000 And that own government is trying to now basically govern the rest of the country at force extra-constitutionally.

00:23:29.000 And then the final point I'll say of this of like kind of who is in charge.

00:23:34.000 There is a small group of people that actually find this really weird sadistic pleasure in plundering the heartland of this country and actually pummeling us into submission.

00:23:45.000 I mean, these are people that are worth $150 billion, like Jeff Bezos.

00:23:50.000 And the thing he is most concerned about is eradicating white supremacy in the American heartland.

00:23:55.000 Like, really?

00:23:56.000 That's the existential threat you're committing the rest of your life to through the Washington Post and all these other kinds of mechanisms.

00:24:04.000 And so we can talk about why this is the case and what we can do about it.

00:24:09.000 But yeah, I think that this kind of holy narratives that they have on the left, I think they're actually running the country.

00:24:14.000 Wow.

00:24:16.000 Video team, if you get a chance, I know this video is going to be watched a lot.

00:24:21.000 Take a look across Span.

00:24:25.000 This isn't flyover country.

00:24:27.000 This is the heartland of America.

00:24:29.000 These are men and women, farmers.

00:24:32.000 These are people who love their country.

00:24:34.000 And it's a big crowd tonight.

00:24:36.000 And we have a voice.

00:24:38.000 Charlie, I didn't even tell you this.

00:24:41.000 I'm on a board and I see several board members who are here.

00:24:44.000 All these statues that are being torn down, we've created a park that we're trying to bring all the statues torn down in America to Enid, Oklahoma, Patriot Park, and so on, and do some instructions on who these people are.

00:25:02.000 And I've got a question for you.

00:25:04.000 I thought your point this morning, I'd never seen this in scripture.

00:25:09.000 When you talked about Noah being a righteous man amongst his contemporaries, an incredible point that if you didn't hear, all he was saying was this.

00:25:24.000 The Bible measured Noah in the context of the people with whom he was living.

00:25:30.000 And you've got to measure people, their righteousness, their goodness, what they do in the context of the culture and the people living around them.

00:25:40.000 So here's my question.

00:25:41.000 What is your opinion?

00:25:43.000 What is going on with this idea, the 1619 project, taking away the culture of America that we were taught growing up in school, the founding fathers and so on?

00:25:57.000 What is happening?

00:25:58.000 Well, first, let me comment on the statue thing, which I've been really outspoken.

00:26:03.000 And so I'm a Yankee through and through, and I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago.

00:26:09.000 My ancestors, Abner Abbey, fought on the Union side of the American Civil War.

00:26:14.000 And I say all this by saying we shouldn't take down one Confederate statue across the country.

00:26:19.000 And so this is so sick and so evil and so wrong.

00:26:24.000 And I'm going to prove it to you that history is a very complicated topic.

00:26:28.000 So all of us have something in common.

00:26:31.000 We all enter a world we didn't create.

00:26:33.000 All of us.

00:26:34.000 No matter how good of a person you think you are, no matter how smart you are, you all entered in a world not of your making.

00:26:40.000 So history is a three-tied knot.

00:26:42.000 It's the present that we care about, the past that we want to preserve and appreciate and glean wisdom from, and the future generations that we want to hopefully build something meaningful for.

00:26:52.000 That's a three-tied knot, as Edmund Burke would call it.

00:26:55.000 And so when you start to pompously come into a region of the country that mainly erected these monuments as a way to heal past the war, to keep the Union together, that's why they were there.

00:27:08.000 They weren't there to try to protect institutionalized racism. 0.98

00:27:11.000 That is total and complete garbage, is what it is. 0.98

00:27:15.000 And, you know, obviously I sympathize with the Union side of the war philosophically and Abraham Lincoln. 0.97

00:27:22.000 However, the strength of the entire Union post-American Civil War, especially in the 1900s, was the reason why we were able to fight and win two world wars, become an industrial power.

00:27:33.000 It was the reason why we were able to beat the Soviet Union.

00:27:35.000 If we were a fractured nation and didn't go through that process of healing, and we actually didn't have a proven way to do that, where you could have people who had ancestors a couple generations removed fight for a cause that lost and still want to be part of the broader project called the United States of America.

00:27:52.000 To thread that needle, the fact we did that was actually rather remarkable.

00:27:55.000 Maybe we should appreciate how that needle was actually threaded.

00:27:57.000 Maybe we should say that there was a specific reason why all of a sudden we have Washington and Lee University.

00:28:04.000 And obviously, I can go, you know, toe-to-toe the things I think Robert E. Lee believed that were wrong, but he was a statesman.

00:28:09.000 He was a gentleman.

00:28:11.000 He was clear, courageous, and he was an admirable man.

00:28:15.000 Obviously, I don't share his views on a lot of different things, but that goes back to Genesis 6, doesn't it?

00:28:20.000 In Genesis 6, it says, Noah was a righteous man, comma, amongst the men and women of his generation.

00:28:29.000 That's interesting.

00:28:30.000 If he was such a righteous man, why'd they have to put that in?

00:28:33.000 It's because he was a relatively righteous man.

00:28:37.000 Maybe if you compared him to Moses, he wasn't that righteous.

00:28:40.000 Maybe if you compared him to Ezra, he wasn't that righteous.

00:28:45.000 No, you have to look at people and times in the framework of where things are and how they are in the life and the custom that they lived in.

00:28:54.000 And then also you have to realize the arc of history, and I call it a new founding after the American Civil War.

00:28:59.000 We re-founded ourselves.

00:29:01.000 And Abraham Lincoln was very prudent in the way that he was trying to keep this union together.

00:29:07.000 A lot of the aggressive reconstruction that happened post-Lincoln, he thought would have actually went too far, too quick.

00:29:12.000 He wanted to slowly reintroduce this idea of one country to a country that was bitterly divided and had resentment.

00:29:20.000 He wrote extensively about this.

00:29:22.000 You could argue Andrew Johnson and the presidents that followed didn't follow that advice, actually.

00:29:27.000 And a lot of kind of the kind of quote-unquote division that happened in the election of 1876, Rutherford B. Hayes, when he withdrew from the American South, was actually because of the hyper-aggressive action in the late 1860s, 1870s.

00:29:44.000 So I just wanted to comment on that statue issue.

00:29:47.000 I go to toe-to-toe with the media on this all the time.

00:29:49.000 They call me this defender of Confederate statues, which am I a defender of history?

00:29:54.000 I am a defender of history.

00:29:55.000 And by the way, while they're at it, why don't they go rename Yale University?

00:29:58.000 He owns slaves.

00:29:59.000 Why don't they go rename Stanford University?

00:30:01.000 Leland Stanford built the railroads with largely, you know, almost slave labor.

00:30:05.000 The reason is you look in the context and the time that they were in.

00:30:08.000 Maybe they did something somewhat admirable that we can glean some wisdom from, that we can look honestly.

00:30:14.000 Do you want to erase and whitewash your history?

00:30:17.000 Or do you want to tell a young person, like, you know, here's a statue of a man who is a complicated man?

00:30:22.000 You're probably going to have complicated moments in your life where you're morally torn about things.

00:30:26.000 Here's what he did right.

00:30:27.000 Here's what he did wrong.

00:30:29.000 Make a judgment on that.

00:30:30.000 It's called humanity.

00:30:31.000 Instead, you eradicate it.

00:30:32.000 You know what that does?

00:30:33.000 It creates resentment.

00:30:34.000 And it creates radicalism, is what it does, is it creates real radicalism, where all of a sudden people then start to embrace ideas they shouldn't embrace.

00:30:42.000 When I would argue, one of the reasons why America was able to become, I think, more racially accepted, you know, accepting of other groups in the 60s, 70s, and 80s was because that balance was actually able to be struck at that time.

00:30:56.000 Okay, enough on that.

00:30:56.000 So now on the American founding.

00:30:58.000 Yeah, the American founding, man, we don't do a good job of teaching this at all, was one of the most miraculous developments in self-government in world history.

00:31:07.000 It really was.

00:31:08.000 The Constitution, largely written by James Madison and Alexander Hamilton, Madison really was the driver of it, is the greatest political document ever written in the history of the world.

00:31:19.000 And the United States Constitution is a gift, and it's built on biblical principles of self-government, consent to the governed, separation of powers, checks and balances, God-granted rights.

00:31:31.000 You read the preamble to the United States Constitution.

00:31:34.000 There are seven action verbs in there, which is to promote, preserve, secure, defend.

00:31:39.000 I'll think of all of them.

00:31:40.000 I think it's four out of six.

00:31:42.000 Form, that's five.

00:31:44.000 There's this idea that we, the people, are the sovereign with rights given to us naturally by God to conserve things that are good, true, and beautiful, to allow people to pursue righteousness without unrestricted power getting in the way.

00:31:57.000 That has never been tried successfully before that.

00:31:59.000 The Italian city-states, tribe-republics, fell apart.

00:32:02.000 The Swiss tried a republic, fell apart.

00:32:05.000 I mean, the Romans tried a republic, went into an empire.

00:32:08.000 The Greeks tried a republic, fell apart.

00:32:10.000 The fact that we have been able to have a superpower on a Republican small R style of government is an extraordinary thing.

00:32:17.000 And yet, the people in charge want us to delete our history, destroy our heritage, and not have any sort of appreciation for the American story.

00:32:26.000 And there is a great American story, and it's a story of heroism, of grit, perseverance, self-improvement, honesty, standing up for the little guy, sacrificing oneself, self, pioneering vacant and vacuous land.

00:32:39.000 This is something that we need to teach our children honestly and directly.

00:32:43.000 Talk about the failures as well.

00:32:45.000 Of course, you should talk about the failures.

00:32:47.000 But if you take the scorecard of America, the triumphs and the victories so far outweigh the failures of America, and I'll prove it to you.

00:32:53.000 Remember, we all as human beings have something in common.

00:32:56.000 Washington, Adams, John Jay, John Adams, they all had, Hamilton, they all had something in common.

00:33:05.000 They all entered a world they didn't create.

00:33:07.000 They all entered a world where slavery was universally accepted.

00:33:10.000 And they exited a world where slavery was being questioned, was being eliminated, eradicated, and abolished in sovereign states where nine out of 13 of the states, by the time the Constitution was ratified in 1787, had already independently abolished slavery.

00:33:23.000 That there was an abolition clause to get rid of slavery, the importation of slaves into the United States 20 years after ratification that Thomas Jefferson signed on March 3rd, 1807, his first act as president after the inaugural.

00:33:35.000 That Thomas Jefferson, the original draft of the Declaration of Independence, blamed King George for bringing the sin of slavery to our shores.

00:33:42.000 It was only because a spirit-filled activist Christians that reassessed the scriptures that all of a sudden they started to change the world that they entered that they did not create.

00:33:51.000 Blaming slavery on the founding fathers is one of the most sloppy and quite honestly immoral arguments someone could make.

00:33:57.000 They did not invent that.

00:33:59.000 They did not perfect it and they did not even defend it.

00:34:02.000 In fact, they all admitted that we got to find a way to get rid of this.

00:34:05.000 In fact, the Three Fifths Clause, which is commonly cited by sloppy, low IQ academics, it's like, oh, they didn't want to have black people have full citizenship.

00:34:13.000 Why do you think that was actually that deal was struck?

00:34:16.000 It was because the slave-owning states wanted to have a permanent monopoly on political power to give blacks citizenship, but not voting rights, so they could have an increased population that they could control the United States Congress. 0.84

00:34:29.000 It was actually to make slave owners less powerful, not more powerful.

00:34:33.000 You know what?

00:34:34.000 That's called prudence. 1.00

00:34:35.000 Practical judgment, wisdom, craftiness, the ability to challenge evil for the institutions and eventually hopefully be able to get rid of these sort of practices.

00:34:44.000 So, look, I could go on endlessly about the American founding, as you could tell.

00:34:48.000 I mean, it's one of my most passionate things in my entire life because we are so lucky.

00:34:52.000 We are so fortunate.

00:34:53.000 We should thank the Lord that we live in the country that we live in.

00:34:56.000 The sacrifices were made before us because we could live in a country that doesn't have that small R form of government, where your rights are not protected by that, have been given by God and protected by government. 0.56

00:35:06.000 Or you're not the sovereign.

00:35:08.000 And we are doing our best to try to destroy it.

00:35:11.000 Wow.

00:35:12.000 That deserves a round of applause.

00:35:20.000 Now, Charlie, I'm going to ask you a couple of pretty tough questions.

00:35:23.000 Okay.

00:35:24.000 Simone Bowes.

00:35:26.000 Okay.

00:35:28.000 I know Simone, the Olympic. 0.99

00:35:30.000 You said something about her.

00:35:33.000 And I know in looking back, all of us who publicly speak, we say things that in reflection, we're like, oh, I might could have said it better.

00:35:43.000 But you explained to me what your heart was.

00:35:45.000 And it wasn't personal.

00:35:47.000 You're questioning a philosophy.

00:35:51.000 Could you explain?

00:35:52.000 Yeah, I'm happy to do that.

00:35:54.000 Yeah, where's the surprise question?

00:35:56.000 So, yeah, look.

00:35:58.000 I care a lot about the Olympics.

00:36:00.000 I believe that we are losing duty in our country and duty to a higher purpose and a higher power.

00:36:08.000 And so Simone Biles came and did a press conference where she said, I wanted the Olympics to be all about me and I wasn't having fun anymore and that I'm going to prioritize myself over Olympic competition.

00:36:20.000 And so, yeah, I mean, look, when you do live radio, I do three hours of radio a day.

00:36:23.000 You say things that sometimes you would have said the word selection more precisely.

00:36:27.000 I will go back and say I actually think that there's new evidence to show that I might have been right about that.

00:36:33.000 But I will stand by my sentiment.

00:36:34.000 I mean, I called her a sociopath, which is, I will stand by that actually based on new developments, and I'll prove it to you.

00:36:40.000 What are those new?

00:36:41.000 Well, so she came out and she said, and I only said that because of the way she did the press conference.

00:36:47.000 But yeah, she came out and she said, look, I'm very, very, very pro-choice and pro-abortion.

00:36:53.000 And she was a foster care kid.

00:36:54.000 It's like, oh, okay, so it's cool for you to be born and be adopted, but not for other kids. 0.67

00:36:58.000 That's sociopathic, narcissistic type behavior.

00:37:01.000 Don't give me that.

00:37:02.000 They're like life for me and not for thee.

00:37:04.000 Like, okay, it's cool that I got adopted and other people shouldn't.

00:37:08.000 She went on a whole rant last week about the merits of abortion, about how we need to have more abortions in America, more accessible. 1.00

00:37:15.000 So I'll go back to my original comments, though, which is this, which is when you're competing on the international stage and you're giving a press conference to explain your decision, look, it would be one thing if she would have said, you know, look, I'm a mess.

00:37:27.000 I need help.

00:37:28.000 I don't want to talk to you right now.

00:37:29.000 Please give me some sympathy and some space.

00:37:31.000 Instead, this brazen attitude that I'm not having fun anymore.

00:37:35.000 I wanted these Olympics to be about me.

00:37:37.000 That is the destruction of duty.

00:37:38.000 When you put on Team USA's uniform and to go compete internationally against our greatest geopolitical enemies, it might not mean this to us, but to the other world, these are feeders of war.

00:37:47.000 The Chinese Communist Party was propagandizing their people that they were going to beat us in the gold medal count.

00:37:53.000 Then if they did, that would be the turning point to show that the Chinese Communist Party was a greater strength than us.

00:37:58.000 I know that it might not mean it's like an athletic competition to us.

00:38:00.000 No, their generals and their military watch this with precision to try to propagandize their public in that way.

00:38:07.000 So when all of a sudden I hear the messages, you know what?

00:38:09.000 It's all about me.

00:38:11.000 All of a sudden, I realize that sign that I have, that you have out here right before you walk on stage at this church, it says, it's not about you.

00:38:19.000 It's not about you.

00:38:20.000 And so, yeah, I stand by my sentiment in my comments.

00:38:23.000 And I think that young people should realize that it's a moral thing to have an obligation to something bigger than yourselves, to understand your place in a transcendent order.

00:38:33.000 And part of that, especially, is a duty and obligation to your fellow countrymen, your flag, your nation, the history, the heritage.

00:38:39.000 And one other comment on this.

00:38:40.000 Olympics have been, in the last hundred years, a place where Americans have shown the virtue of being American.

00:38:47.000 It was Jesse Owens that won the gold medal against the evil Nazis when Hitler refused to shake his hand. 0.74

00:38:53.000 It was us that beat the East Germans and the Soviets in Olympic theater.

00:38:57.000 That was a demoralizing blow to the soulless, godless Russians. 1.00

00:39:01.000 So make no mistake, Olympic competition is not just like an NCAA competition.

00:39:06.000 This is a chance for us as a people, as a country, to show the rest of the world who are our values, who are our morals.

00:39:11.000 So yes, I did get very heated, understandably, would have been more precise in two words, but I think I've been vindicated in recent events on some of them, in the sense of this.

00:39:20.000 If you're going to do a press conference wearing that beautiful American flag, I don't want to hear about yourself.

00:39:25.000 I want to hear about our nation and a commitment to something bigger than yourself.

00:39:29.000 Wow.

00:39:36.000 And I'll just be candid, Charlie.

00:39:37.000 The reason I ask you that question is that there's someone I've never met who sent me a public social media post that said, how could you give a man like Charlie Kirk a platform when he said this?

00:39:51.000 And he gave your quote about Simone.

00:39:53.000 And I'll have to be candid.

00:39:54.000 I told my wife, when I heard you, I was sympathetic.

00:39:58.000 And let me tell you what my thought was.

00:40:00.000 I am so glad my two great grandfathers, when they stormed Normandy, they didn't stop and say, hey, I'm coming for myself.

00:40:09.000 I really don't like this.

00:40:11.000 I want to get back on the boat.

00:40:13.000 They went to the beaches of Normandy risking their lives for this country.

00:40:19.000 And I think that was the heart of what was being said.

00:40:25.000 Okay, let's come to a project that you're just starting and launching in Turning Point, USA.

00:40:34.000 Enid recently has gone through some changes.

00:40:38.000 We basically people here have said, look, we're not going to stand by and let local government, local school boards, local elections go by with our involvement.

00:40:49.000 And so there have been changes.

00:40:52.000 And these folks here are serious about local government and the liberty that we enjoy.

00:40:59.000 So before you answer a question, I'd like for you to comment.

00:41:03.000 My question will follow your comment.

00:41:05.000 Can you tell a difference being in a city like Enid compared to other cities you travel to?

00:41:13.000 Yeah, it's really important that you all hear this.

00:41:15.000 I mean, I travel, we travel all the time.

00:41:18.000 The last couple cities we went to, you are not able to walk into a restaurant, a hotel, or a gas station without wearing a mask.

00:41:27.000 And if you wouldn't, they will call the police in most cities in the western part of the United States.

00:41:32.000 Yeah, I mean, just so you understand, this gathering you're having right now, the police would be here if it was in San Jose, California.

00:41:39.000 Just so you know.

00:41:40.000 So what's the reason for that?

00:41:42.000 Politics.

00:41:43.000 That's why.

00:41:44.000 You made better decisions to elect better leaders and pushed back when they decided to do things that were wrong.

00:41:50.000 San Jose made bad choices.

00:41:52.000 It's easy to take that for granted, right?

00:41:55.000 But I'm telling you right now, the fact that you don't have the Oklahoma Department of Health right now writing you a citation of a fine you must pay is because you elected better leaders than California did.

00:42:05.000 My friend, Pastor Mike McClure from Calvary Chapel, San Jose, is facing $3 million in fines because he opened his church on Easter and Pentecost because he wanted to save people.

00:42:15.000 And he said, and this is what a hero says, he said, they can find me whatever they want on this earth.

00:42:19.000 The souls that we saved and baptized are worth a lot more than the dollars and the jail time that they're threatening you with.

00:42:28.000 And so.

00:42:31.000 You wanted to ask?

00:42:32.000 Yeah, and here's the question.

00:42:34.000 Is it important to pay attention to, to know what's going on, your school board, your library board, your city council, your water board?

00:42:44.000 I mean, we joked about that.

00:42:46.000 Is that important?

00:42:47.000 Oh, it's incredibly important.

00:42:49.000 And so if you actually look at the project of America, the journey we've been on, we've been looking at this all backwards.

00:42:57.000 And I'm going to be very honest with you.

00:42:59.000 Your senators, your congressmen, and the president of the United States is not going to save the lifestyle here.

00:43:06.000 It's not going to happen.

00:43:07.000 And we as conservatives have had the pyramid completely upside down.

00:43:11.000 We've been so focused on federal salvation.

00:43:14.000 You know what I mean by that, not eternal, but federal changes and federal adjustments that we really haven't done what we have to do on the state and local level.

00:43:22.000 Now, part of this is understandable.

00:43:23.000 Part of it is because we've been way more concerned doing things that are more important than that.

00:43:28.000 Raising families, building churches, building businesses, right?

00:43:32.000 Helping out fellow friends.

00:43:33.000 So we just haven't really always had the time or energy or commitment to do that.

00:43:37.000 That has to change, and it has to change quickly.

00:43:39.000 The second thing I'll say, though, is that you have a lot more power on the local level than you realize.

00:43:46.000 These are really low turnout elections.

00:43:49.000 With people, if somebody like wants to be on the school board that doesn't have kids in the school district, they shouldn't be allowed to be on the school board.

00:43:57.000 Those people, like there's something wrong with that, right?

00:43:59.000 If you don't have kids and you like want to be on the school board, like really badly, like hold on a second, let's take pause.

00:44:04.000 I'm sure there might be an exception here or somewhere.

00:44:06.000 But generally, in Phoenix, when we're dealing with these people, they're like these 38-year-old unmarried kind of kind of creepy people that like all of a sudden run for a school board.

00:44:16.000 Like, yeah, this guy seems nice enough.

00:44:17.000 Next thing you know, he's pushing critical race theory, mandatory masks, and mandatory vaccines.

00:44:21.000 Like, you don't have a kid in the district, and you're doing this.

00:44:24.000 And so, yeah, this is the call to action.

00:44:27.000 People say, Charlie, what do we do?

00:44:29.000 And I'm writing a series of essays called How We Win.

00:44:32.000 It's a three-part essay of describing what winning is.

00:44:35.000 The second one is describing the vulnerabilities of the current regime and the assets that we have at our disposal.

00:44:40.000 And the third thing is kind of a call to action, which I'll kind of preview right now, which is just a realization of the cost and the time that this is going to take.

00:44:49.000 You have to recommit yourself, every single person here and watching online, to a completely different way of living than you have the last your entire life.

00:44:56.000 I want you to think about this.

00:44:58.000 Your life, you were able to put politics on the back burner and not front and close and personal.

00:45:03.000 You now have to become a political animal.

00:45:06.000 You do.

00:45:06.000 The things you buy and purchase have to be in line with your values.

00:45:10.000 No more credit card companies like American Express that are saying capitalism is evil.

00:45:14.000 Cancel them.

00:45:15.000 No more.

00:45:16.000 No more beverage companies like Coca-Cola that are saying that voter ID is somehow immoral and racist.

00:45:23.000 We don't like talking like this, right?

00:45:25.000 We're like, well, we want to be peacekeeping people.

00:45:27.000 We want to have dialogue.

00:45:28.000 They have declared war on your values.

00:45:30.000 How much more are you going to take?

00:45:31.000 Stop buying stuff from people who hate you.

00:45:33.000 They say they hate you.

00:45:35.000 Stop buying stuff from them.

00:45:36.000 Now, it's going to be a process at times, right, of finding other purchasing options, but that's only part of it.

00:45:42.000 You know, Aristotle said that we are all political beings at nature, that we actually desire politics.

00:45:49.000 Politics, he said, is the highest form of community because it combines morality and sociability.

00:45:55.000 And you look at it, we as conservatives have actually not played into this for so long, and that is an unrealized political, you know, political power.

00:46:05.000 I know you said you wanted to take like a short breather, but I do want to make this point.

00:46:10.000 And actually, I could preview this so that no one will leave.

00:46:16.000 There is this thing about the regime that is currently dominating us that should give you all hope.

00:46:23.000 See, Charlie, what is that?

00:46:24.000 Do you notice how paranoid they are?

00:46:28.000 They're almost super worried that white Anglo-Saxon Protestant Christians are going to rise up in massive numbers in Oklahoma and Missouri.

00:46:36.000 And all of a sudden, maybe we are the most powerful people in the country.

00:46:39.000 Now, I'm not talking about like rising up like they try to fear monger. 0.87

00:46:42.000 No, no, no.

00:46:42.000 I'm talking about taking back city councils, peacefully taking back the instruments of government.

00:46:46.000 All of a sudden, I want to, I think they're afraid in a Coca-Cola shareholders meeting.

00:46:50.000 They're like, you know, our profits are down 10%.

00:46:53.000 Maybe we shouldn't have done that.

00:46:55.000 That's what they're afraid of.

00:46:57.000 Do you notice they are the first people to win an election that are constantly looking over their shoulder, worried about the equal and opposite reaction?

00:47:06.000 You have to realize how much unrealized purchasing power and political power we all have.

00:47:11.000 So part of how we win is that if anyone here is over the age of 35, you have to completely reorient your life.

00:47:21.000 The days of America where you could watch baseball without a political message are over.

00:47:25.000 It's done.

00:47:26.000 Stop complaining about it.

00:47:27.000 Now you have to say, okay, I got to put on a new jersey.

00:47:30.000 I got to put on a new uniform.

00:47:31.000 We are political animals now.

00:47:33.000 Everything I will do will be in alignment with truth.

00:47:36.000 What I buy, how I educate my kids, where I travel, the candidates I vote for, my free time, my prayers are all going to be in alignment with that.

00:47:46.000 And guess what?

00:47:47.000 As soon as that switches, their paranoia will become a reality.

00:47:56.000 So, Charlie, a lot of these folks may not know kind of your background, how you got where you are today.

00:48:03.000 It's a pretty remarkable story.

00:48:05.000 You can't tell it all, but just kind of your start and how the Lord opened the doors.

00:48:10.000 And then if you have a question, we'll set the ground rules right when he gets done.

00:48:15.000 Sure.

00:48:16.000 So yeah, it's been really a story that could only be explained by the Lord and His grace and his infinite blessing.

00:48:24.000 I wanted to go to West Point when I was in high school.

00:48:26.000 I ended up not getting in.

00:48:29.000 And I'll tell the shorter version of the story.

00:48:32.000 And I decided to take a gap year before going to college.

00:48:37.000 It's been nine gap years.

00:48:38.000 And so I never went to college.

00:48:41.000 And if I can riff on that for just a second, college is the right decision for some people.

00:48:47.000 It really is.

00:48:48.000 It's actually the wrong decision for a lot more people than we ever recognize or realize.

00:48:53.000 College can be a real big blessing for people, and it can be a disaster for some people.

00:48:58.000 And it is wrong the way that our leaders and the attitude of people in charge talk down to people that don't have college degrees.

00:49:06.000 We need more people that work with their hands.

00:49:08.000 We need to rebuild the muscular class in this country.

00:49:11.000 We need more entrepreneurs, technicians, plumbers, people that work in HVAC.

00:49:16.000 We need more people that are police officers and firefighters.

00:49:20.000 We need more people that serve in the United States military.

00:49:23.000 And so I think it's so wrong and destructive.

00:49:26.000 And quite honestly, it's really bothering the way that people that don't go to college are treated.

00:49:33.000 So if you're young right now and you're thinking, man, should I go to college?

00:49:37.000 Like, where should I go?

00:49:38.000 Think to yourself, why should I go to college?

00:49:41.000 Not where should I go to college.

00:49:43.000 And every person out there, if you have kids or grandkids, that's the question you should have.

00:49:47.000 Enter into that conversation with a little bit of openness.

00:49:51.000 Think to yourself, you know what?

00:49:53.000 I'm going to be okay accepting if my son or daughter or grandkid, kid or grandkid, will say, college might not be the best choice for me.

00:50:02.000 Here's why.

00:50:03.000 And so we have not done that.

00:50:05.000 We have done this as kind of a social acceptance process that every single person has to go to college.

00:50:11.000 It's risky financially, it's risky socially, culturally, and spiritually.

00:50:16.000 Okay, so I ended up not going to college.

00:50:18.000 I started Turning Point USA in the summer of 2012.

00:50:21.000 Our mission is really simple.

00:50:23.000 We want to play a role in trying to turn the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world around, specifically first and foremost, by playing offense with a sense of urgency with young people and students in high school and college campuses.

00:50:38.000 We are the largest conservative student organization in the country.

00:50:42.000 We have well over 175 full-time people on our staff now.

00:50:45.000 We have just launched Turning Point Faith, where we want to be an assist and we want to be an active help to strengthen the church and to support pastors that stand for truth and try to build a broad-based coalition for liberty.

00:51:01.000 And by the way, you have a wonderful pastor here.

00:51:03.000 Let me tell you.

00:51:04.000 Pastor Wade does a wonderful job.

00:51:06.000 And if there were 500 like you, the country would be in a remarkably better place.

00:51:14.000 And I can say that as someone who has traveled the country extensively and seen all sorts of different aspects of what's happening.

00:51:20.000 And so, yeah, we've been so blessed.

00:51:22.000 We've had a lot of fun throughout the years.

00:51:24.000 I've personally visited well over 100 college and university campuses and spoken on them.

00:51:29.000 I'm happy to tell you how screwed up your universities here are in your state and in other states.

00:51:35.000 I can have you guess which one is more liberal, OSU or OU, but we could leave that for question and answer.

00:51:41.000 And so, but no, I've seen, I've seen, yes, it is OU if you're wondering.

00:51:48.000 And so, yes, I knew it.

00:51:50.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:51:51.000 Stillwater still has its problems, okay?

00:51:53.000 Make no mistake.

00:51:54.000 But yeah, it's just been a wonderful journey.

00:51:57.000 And I also just want to be an example for young people that might not think college is the right choice for you, that might have a vision, something that you want to pursue.

00:52:06.000 I want you to know that your worth does not decrease just because you don't have a piece of paper from some sort of anti-American taxpayer fund institution.

00:52:17.000 And so.

00:52:19.000 Yeah.

00:52:20.000 All right.

00:52:20.000 Excellent.

00:52:21.000 Here are the ground rules.

00:52:22.000 Mike's here, a mic here, a mic there.

00:52:25.000 Make your question as brief as possible so we can get to as many as possible.

00:52:31.000 So, anybody have a question you'd like?

00:52:34.000 Brian, slip to the mic right there.

00:52:36.000 Yeah, there we go.

00:52:38.000 And Brian, we'll start with you, then we'll go with Bill.

00:52:41.000 Okay, hello.

00:52:43.000 Hello, Sir Charles.

00:52:44.000 Thanks for being here.

00:52:45.000 I wrote it down so I could be concise.

00:52:47.000 First of all, this is not my question, but yes or no.

00:52:50.000 Were you homeschooled?

00:52:51.000 No, I was sound like you were homeschooled.

00:52:53.000 I'm just saying.

00:52:54.000 Thank you.

00:52:55.000 All right.

00:52:56.000 Public education.

00:52:58.000 Okay.

00:52:58.000 All right.

00:52:58.000 Here's my question.

00:53:00.000 On one of your podcasts, I think it might have been with David Hasbro, Project Veritas, I think is his name.

00:53:06.000 You mentioned an organization called Conscious Kid, and you referred to that organization as an offensive coordinator, sort of for the current zeitgeist that we're seeing around it.

00:53:15.000 So I would submit that while the offensive coordinators may exist, they don't have to, because I believe that the only thing required for people to behave similarly is to have a similar worldview, specifically the secular, humanist, critical theory worldview.

00:53:32.000 So my question, because you have this broader perspective than do I, my question is, how much of our population do you think has actually internalized and actually believes that the deconstruction of America is a good thing? 0.93

00:53:46.000 And how many, how, and what percentage is just Lenin's useful idiots? 0.98

00:53:51.000 Yeah, that's a phenomenal question. 0.99

00:53:54.000 Yeah, unfortunately, it's an increasing number.

00:53:56.000 This is why one of my life's mission is to try to decrease college enrollment by at least 10 or 15 percent in the next couple of years.

00:54:03.000 Because if we keep on sending our most prized possessions to which are young people, right? 0.99

00:54:08.000 It's not our oil, it's not our natural resources, it's young people. 1.00

00:54:11.000 That is the future of your nation.

00:54:12.000 And we keep on sending them to these universities that don't teach critical thinking, they don't teach the classics, they don't teach the great books, they don't teach our history.

00:54:20.000 Instead, they come at it from a deconstructionist, humanist, nihilistic point of view.

00:54:24.000 And all of a sudden, you shouldn't be surprised when all of a sudden the country starts to kind of tear itself apart.

00:54:28.000 I would say, look, it's hard to kind of do the percentage quartile.

00:54:31.000 In this state, it's obviously lower, but nationally, there's, I would say, 25% of our fellow countrymen really believe this country is a mistake and it needs to be burned to the ground and resurrected with something new.

00:54:43.000 And unfortunately, it's not just about that 25%.

00:54:48.000 This is the bizarre thing: it's the wealthiest people and the people that have benefited the most that are active participants in this.

00:54:56.000 These are the people that have dedicated their life and their resources to try and completely redefine what America is and what it means.

00:55:04.000 This is George Soros who dedicates $19 billion of his $21 billion to the deconstruction and, quite honestly, the dismantling of the United States of America.

00:55:14.000 It's Jeff Bezos, who has $150 billion who buys the Washington Post.

00:55:19.000 It's Zuckerberg who put $400 million into our last election.

00:55:23.000 And one thing that I could critique the Republican Party for, it's a lot actually, over the last decade, is that we never should have embraced this belief that we should just cut taxes for the wealthiest people in the country.

00:55:35.000 You know, I'm all for cutting taxes for business owners and entrepreneurs.

00:55:39.000 But quite honestly, Jeff Bezos, like really, that's what our party's going to defend?

00:55:43.000 People that use their resources and their assets to actively try to usurp and undermine the United States of America?

00:55:49.000 Like no way.

00:55:50.000 You know, we should stand for a vibrant and strong American middle class.

00:55:55.000 The American way of life is this, and we've lost this, that you should not have to have both the mother and father in the workforce to be able to sustain a middle-class family.

00:56:07.000 That it should be optional if the woman wants to go in the workforce, but there should be jobs available, and the social contract should warrant that if just the man wants to work, that they can support a middle-class family of four to five children. 0.91

00:56:20.000 That used to be the American promise.

00:56:22.000 Now what happens is people either have less children, right, because they can't sustain it, or the woman goes in the workforce. 1.00

00:56:30.000 If that's a decision of yours, phenomenal.

00:56:32.000 It should not be mandatory.

00:56:33.000 Because what ends up happening is they have to farm out the kids to daycare.

00:56:37.000 Ends up happening, they have to go in debt because they can't sustain it.

00:56:40.000 And the entire cycle of the destruction of the middle class way of life starts to go downward.

00:56:45.000 This is something that President Donald Trump, God bless him, he understood through instinct.

00:56:50.000 I really believe it very well might have been the Holy Spirit that spoke to him.

00:56:54.000 Because every single other person in the chattering class of the intelligentsia of the country said, oh, no, it's okay.

00:56:59.000 Let's just keep on sending our factories to Wuhan, China.

00:57:01.000 We're going to bring in more mountains of plastic.

00:57:04.000 It doesn't matter.

00:57:05.000 We need to bring in limitless supply of illegals. 0.99

00:57:07.000 And he said, you know what?

00:57:08.000 This is a violation of our promise to our fellow countrymen.

00:57:12.000 You know, wages are going down.

00:57:13.000 The price of living is going up.

00:57:15.000 Our fertility rate is going down.

00:57:17.000 We're having less children per family.

00:57:18.000 This is not sustainable.

00:57:20.000 And Trump was willing to say it out loud.

00:57:22.000 And he has changed, I think, the entire American political conversation for good.

00:57:27.000 I'm optimistic because I actually believe deep down, this kind of radical posturing by the elite class and their enforcers, their shock troops, which are kind of the BLM folks that go around to loot, pillage, and destroy. 0.83

00:57:40.000 I actually think they're in a vast minority.

00:57:42.000 I think that this country is more politically centrist and center-right than we give it credit for.

00:57:47.000 Sometimes there's an information loop.

00:57:49.000 Sometimes we're not able to communicate these values and these ideas.

00:57:52.000 But deep down, a non-radical position that we should espouse, which is this country is the greatest in the world, that we need to preserve and protect it.

00:58:03.000 And we want to be a party and a movement that supports having lots of children, being able to put things that matter, like the Lord and the church first, and to defend the American way of life.

00:58:15.000 If Republicans just said that and did a little bit, we would win every single election in a landslide.

00:58:21.000 People want representation right now.

00:58:23.000 They want someone to challenge against the entrenched corporate interests, the entrenched government interests.

00:58:28.000 And I'm telling you, I think there's a storm coming in 2022.

00:58:31.000 It's not looking good for the other side.

00:58:32.000 All right, very good.

00:58:36.000 We're going to try to get to as many questions as possible.

00:58:39.000 Bill, okay, Charlie.

00:58:41.000 Here in Oklahoma, I believe we do a wonderful job of making sure that the voter that's voting is actually a real voter that needs to be voting.

00:58:52.000 But that's not the case throughout the rest of America.

00:58:56.000 What can we do as Oklahomans to help these other states go ahead and be able to go ahead and realize we need to have people that are actually alive actually deserve to vote?

00:59:14.000 What a concept, right?

00:59:16.000 Being the ones voting.

00:59:17.000 So it's a great question.

00:59:20.000 On our show, our podcast, you will find we are one of the few that continue to talk about The probably the most important structural issue, which is the way we do elections in this country.

00:59:31.000 If we do not fix the way we do elections in this country, everything I just talked about for the last hour is null and void.

00:59:36.000 We have to structurally fix the way that we do elections, specifically in Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.

00:59:44.000 It is a joke.

00:59:45.000 We are headquartered in Arizona.

00:59:46.000 They have 72,000 more mail-in ballots received than were sent out.

00:59:50.000 They have signature verification problems.

00:59:52.000 It takes them two weeks to count votes.

00:59:54.000 In Georgia, they're running bowed to the machines multiple times, which is true, by the way. 0.57

00:59:59.000 You could go through the documents.

01:00:01.000 They're running these ballots through.

01:00:03.000 And so that's a really, really important question because your question was actually precise enough where I can give you a follow-up.

01:00:10.000 Your federal elected officials need to start actually doing something about this.

01:00:15.000 Your federal elected officials need to start actually calling for commissions and investigations.

01:00:21.000 They need to start to do something about this.

01:00:23.000 And they have a lot of power as senators.

01:00:25.000 They'll say, oh, we're not in the majority.

01:00:26.000 That is a bunch of baloney, okay?

01:00:28.000 There's committee hearings.

01:00:30.000 They can call witnesses.

01:00:31.000 It's a 50-50 majority, okay?

01:00:33.000 Schumer only controls it with a tie-breaking vote, vote of Kamala Harris.

01:00:38.000 So your two U.S. senators, if they are not constantly having the drumbeat about voter integrity, and all of a sudden if they have a change of mind on that, they should hear from you on that.

01:00:47.000 And your congressman as well.

01:00:48.000 You know, what's really interesting about Oklahoma is that everyone kind of knows everyone goes to church and they shop.

01:00:54.000 And you guys don't have to just go through a portal.

01:00:56.000 That's not the case, by the way, in California.

01:00:58.000 Good luck finding your senator in California, right?

01:01:01.000 This is a little bit different type of state.

01:01:03.000 You all know where these guys go to church.

01:01:05.000 I'm not saying harass them, but be clear about it.

01:01:07.000 Be like, hey, can you explain to me why all of a sudden you're not calling for a huge audit investigation into the way these elections are done from the federal level?

01:01:15.000 Well, we don't control the chambers of power.

01:01:16.000 Well, you get to call some witnesses, don't you?

01:01:18.000 I mean, you get to have some sort of oversight.

01:01:20.000 Don't give me that.

01:01:21.000 The Republicans are given plenty of power.

01:01:23.000 Do not yield that.

01:01:24.000 By the way, you have a couple very powerful senators in the state.

01:01:27.000 Make no mistake.

01:01:28.000 This is not Nebraska, okay?

01:01:30.000 Both your senators have a lot of power on Republican leadership.

01:01:33.000 A lot of power.

01:01:34.000 It's about time they start using it.

01:01:36.000 Okay.

01:01:37.000 All right.

01:01:40.000 Doug.

01:01:41.000 So you just led into my question.

01:01:43.000 Oklahoma has an interesting election next year between an incumbent and an up-and-comer for the U.S. Senate.

01:01:51.000 So far, everyone that I've talked to, Christians and Republicans, are divided on who they would elect, and this is very critical.

01:02:03.000 Will you develop an opinion or some kind of analysis that will help people next year in Oklahoma for the Senate race?

01:02:15.000 We just talked to him on the phone, James.

01:02:19.000 Jackson.

01:02:20.000 That's what I just asked you.

01:02:21.000 Jackson, I'm sorry.

01:02:23.000 And yeah, again, this shows how much I know about this.

01:02:25.000 I learned the hard way.

01:02:26.000 I'm not going to weigh in on state party politics unless I know everything about it.

01:02:30.000 But I could tell you, I am really upset at your current senator right here in this state.

01:02:35.000 And so I'm not going to, I will do one of two things in this state.

01:02:38.000 I'll stay out or I'll endorse the opponent.

01:02:41.000 That's it.

01:02:42.000 I get asked to endorse people all the time.

01:02:43.000 It usually doesn't work well because I end up making enemies everywhere, right?

01:02:47.000 And so it's really kind of a, it's a net negative.

01:02:49.000 I will say this, though.

01:02:50.000 This is a beautiful state with really conservative people.

01:02:54.000 And your values are being steamrolled in Washington, D.C. every day.

01:02:59.000 And you do not have a fighter in D.C. that's defending you.

01:03:01.000 I could tell you that firsthand.

01:03:03.000 I could tell you the people who are, Senator Rand Paul is defending your values every day.

01:03:06.000 Senator Rand Paul is going out and he is questioning the consensus from NIH.

01:03:11.000 Senator Ted Cruz is defending your values.

01:03:14.000 Senator Josh Hawley is defending your values.

01:03:16.000 That's what that looks like.

01:03:18.000 No more policy wonkery or doing deals with the other side or multi-trillion dollar infrastructure packages or whispering about amnesty.

01:03:25.000 No, no, no, no.

01:03:26.000 We need hearings, subpoenas.

01:03:28.000 We need to play offense.

01:03:29.000 We need to call out the other side for their deep state trickery every time it rears its head. 0.86

01:03:33.000 And by the way, this whole idea, like, well, we don't have power, they do understand like 90% of being in the United States Senate is show theater, right?

01:03:42.000 That actually matters a lot.

01:03:44.000 You move the Overton window.

01:03:45.000 You give validity to good ideas.

01:03:47.000 You get rid of bad ideas.

01:03:48.000 You show your voters that you're defending them.

01:03:50.000 That's a really important thing.

01:03:52.000 And so, yeah, I'm really disappointed that this wonderful, beautiful state is being represented by just another transactional kind of lobbyist supported person.

01:03:59.000 That's not to say that I'm, you know, fully informed about the entire voting record there, but that's a letdown, to be perfectly honest, because I believe in this very simple idea that political power is given, okay?

01:04:13.000 They are not entitled to political power.

01:04:16.000 You gave it to them, okay?

01:04:18.000 And it's the consent of the governed.

01:04:20.000 So when that mandate is transacted, then those people need to realize, like, wow, my voters are really upset about these sorts of issues.

01:04:30.000 Why am I not speaking out on them?

01:04:32.000 And why am I not doing something about it?

01:04:34.000 And that's a really important question.

01:04:36.000 So anyway, that's my current shtick on that.

01:04:40.000 And I'll just kind of complete the point by also just saying that the Democrats in D.C., if I could just talk strictly political here, and Turning Point USA is a 501c3, so we're just on educational and cultural issues, but talking political personally here, they don't fear us.

01:04:57.000 They don't fear any sort of retribution or backlash.

01:05:00.000 They believe that they can crush us into submission and we are going to take it.

01:05:04.000 They do fear Rand Paul and Josh Hawley.

01:05:07.000 They fear them because they speak out and they're willing to use subpoena power and call Fauci at these hearings.

01:05:12.000 I want you to think for a second.

01:05:14.000 Do you think they stay up late at night worrying about Oklahoma senators exposing their treachery?

01:05:18.000 Maybe it's time for new leaders.

01:05:21.000 Okay.

01:05:26.000 Thank you for your patience.

01:05:27.000 Yes, sir.

01:05:29.000 Could you touch on critical race theory and the states that are embracing it, the states that are rejecting it, and just kind of its agenda in schools?

01:05:37.000 Yeah, I want to compliment your governor.

01:05:38.000 I was really impressed when I spent time with him back in March.

01:05:42.000 He signed a ban on critical race theory and got a lot of backlash for it.

01:05:45.000 And I want to thank Governor Stitt.

01:05:47.000 I think he's been very good on this.

01:05:48.000 He really has.

01:05:49.000 So I don't want to make this whole thing just a bash session of, you know, I think he's been wonderful on that.

01:05:55.000 Yeah, critical race theory is an existential threat to the American way of life.

01:05:59.000 And it's in every major school district across the country.

01:06:03.000 We actually just came out today with our school book.

01:06:06.000 It's been a long week today, Wade.

01:06:09.000 Started at 6 a.m., right?

01:06:12.000 I'm trying to think, where was I?

01:06:14.000 How long have I been here?

01:06:16.000 Am I a citizen now?

01:06:17.000 It's like a resident of Oklahoma. 0.77

01:06:20.000 It's been a long trip.

01:06:22.000 Anyway, so we came out this morning with the school board watch list.

01:06:27.000 You guys can all go to it.

01:06:28.000 It's schoolboardwatchlist.org of the 100 largest school districts across the country where we rate their voting records.

01:06:37.000 Again, it's a 501c3 project, so it's not a political project.

01:06:40.000 It's just a matter of information.

01:06:42.000 But one of the highlighted school districts is Norman Public School District.

01:06:46.000 And we have that prominently displayed on the front page of the website.

01:06:49.000 I encourage you to check that out.

01:06:51.000 You should see how the people in Norman, Oklahoma have been implementing mask mandates, entertaining critical race theory.

01:06:59.000 And you could look at it for yourself.

01:07:01.000 So what is critical race theory?

01:07:03.000 You're going to hear about this a lot on television.

01:07:05.000 It's really, we don't have to overthink it.

01:07:07.000 If you guys want, I could do a 30-minute riff on it.

01:07:09.000 I actually don't think we have to do that.

01:07:10.000 It's super simple.

01:07:11.000 It's teaching your children to care about race, hate themselves, and hate the country.

01:07:16.000 I grew up in an America where I was told that character, spirit, and soul were the most important parts of a human being.

01:07:16.000 That's it.

01:07:24.000 I went to a high school that was 53% Hispanic, English as a second language.

01:07:29.000 I grew up around different cultures and backgrounds and races and ethnicities.

01:07:33.000 I, for a short period of time, believe that I lived through a moment in America that was de-emphasized with race.

01:07:40.000 It was beautiful.

01:07:41.000 It was great.

01:07:42.000 We got along.

01:07:43.000 No one cared about if you look different.

01:07:44.000 We are doing the opposite.

01:07:46.000 We are now intentionally manufacturing racial division. 0.63

01:07:49.000 We are intentionally manufacturing anti-white sentiment. 0.82

01:07:54.000 We are manufacturing this idea that the way you look, things you cannot change, are necessarily immoral.

01:08:01.000 Remember, a society that organizes itself based on things you can't change is immoral.

01:08:07.000 We organized our society based on things you can change.

01:08:11.000 That's what makes America different.

01:08:13.000 In India, they've organized their whole society and things you can't change, pure caste system. 0.99

01:08:18.000 Who's your father?

01:08:19.000 That's who you're going to be in America. 0.97

01:08:21.000 It's, now show me what you got.

01:08:23.000 It's the pioneer attitude.

01:08:24.000 That's the Western spirit.

01:08:26.000 That empowers the individual, puts an emphasis on meritocracy, on choice, on action, on agency, which is what's called the Protestant work ethic.

01:08:36.000 Every one of you need to be alert and aware that these insidious ideas are being implemented in your schools.

01:08:43.000 It might not call itself critical race theory.

01:08:45.000 Oh, we don't teach critical race theory.

01:08:47.000 Here's what they will call it, equity training, social-emotional learning.

01:08:51.000 There's all sorts of different things that are implemented.

01:08:53.000 It's very simple.

01:08:54.000 Are you teaching young children to care about race?

01:08:57.000 Yes or no.

01:08:58.000 Are you teaching a proper historical account of the United States founding and the American journey?

01:09:02.000 Yes or no.

01:09:03.000 Now, I'm sure there's any homeschoolers out there, homeschoolers are going to save our country, by the way.

01:09:06.000 Awesome.

01:09:09.000 I want to give a plug to a partnership that we have developed with the Beacon of the North, Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan.

01:09:16.000 If any of you, so people say all the time, they ask me, they say, Charlie, how can I save the country?

01:09:21.000 What can we do?

01:09:22.000 We have to learn more.

01:09:24.000 We have to dive deeper into our ideas.

01:09:25.000 We have to pursue things that are eternal and never change.

01:09:28.000 So we have come up with a partnership with Hillsdale College.

01:09:31.000 It's charlieforhillsdale.com.

01:09:34.000 If that interests you at all, it's homeschool supplemental curriculum that you can go through.

01:09:38.000 It's a full curriculum on the American story, and then there's 25 online courses you can go through from Euclidean geometry to Aristotle's ethics to Sparta versus Athens to the Federalist Papers, Constitution 101.

01:09:52.000 Every night, my wife will tell you, I go through my own Hillsdale online courses.

01:09:55.000 People say, Charlie, how do you know so much about all this stuff?

01:09:58.000 I take these courses, and I take the tests, and I go through them.

01:10:01.000 They are rigorous, but they are fulfilling.

01:10:03.000 You will end up wanting to fight for your country more.

01:10:06.000 You'll end up having more clarity the more you realize the history, the sacrifice, and the beauty of the tradition before us.

01:10:11.000 So if that piqued your curiosity, it's charlieforhillsdale.com.

01:10:16.000 It's free of charge.

01:10:16.000 You guys can go through it.

01:10:17.000 It's a wonderful partnership with Hillsdale College.

01:10:19.000 All right, here's what we're going to do.

01:10:20.000 We just, you're fine.

01:10:22.000 We have about 12 more minutes or 13 minutes, and we're 20.

01:10:26.000 We'll go as far as we can.

01:10:28.000 Please don't be upset with me if we can't get to you, but let's go right here.

01:10:33.000 My name's Rachel Yost.

01:10:35.000 I'm a senior in high school.

01:10:37.000 There are several young high schoolers in the room who are very passionate about truth and want to defend it.

01:10:42.000 So my question for you is, how do you advise us as we go out into the world to divence truth and where should we start?

01:10:48.000 That is such a great question.

01:10:50.000 Thank you for being here tonight, by the way.

01:10:52.000 So, it says this in the Bible many times: that when you proclaim truth, especially the truth of the gospel, you will be persecuted.

01:11:02.000 It's a promise of persecution.

01:11:04.000 There is no question about it.

01:11:06.000 So, I say this to our turning point USA students all the time.

01:11:09.000 So, we just had an amazing gathering in Tampa, Florida, 4,000 young students from across the country.

01:11:14.000 If you've ever been to a turning point event, or if you haven't, you guys have to attend.

01:11:18.000 It's the most fulfilling experience to see students from all walks of life and differences and backgrounds commit themselves to trying to save Western civilization.

01:11:27.000 It's really a beautiful thing.

01:11:28.000 But you know what I tell these students is I start with the honest truth, which is if you're going to stand for truth, you will lose friends, be kicked out of social groups, and you might have more difficulty finding jobs.

01:11:41.000 But I can promise you one thing that no one else can promise you: you can be the same person in public that you are in private.

01:11:50.000 That is the promise I can give you.

01:11:52.000 So, people say, Charlie, how do I change the country?

01:11:55.000 Don't put on a camouflage uniform the minute you leave your home.

01:12:01.000 Be the same person.

01:12:02.000 Say the same things you say to your friends that you say publicly.

01:12:05.000 And the other thing is this: which is, if you want to pursue truth, dive into an intellectual tradition that has been rigorously, that has been rigorously defended around what is truth and where does it come from.

01:12:20.000 I talk about this is one of the reasons why I partnered with Hillsdale.

01:12:23.000 There is this very disturbing trend of children that are raised in evangelical homes that are defecting from their faith.

01:12:29.000 One of the reasons, and this is the classical argument, is not all of them have been classically educated.

01:12:35.000 Classical education will logically bring a child up to the conclusion that there is an unmoved mover, that there is a creator to creation, and all of a sudden they will have the tools necessary to defend against Satan's attacks to try to have them doubt their faith.

01:12:50.000 So, I tell young Christians that want to pursue truth: know your Thomas Aquinas, know your Aristotle, know the metaphysics arguments, because you're not the first person to wrestle with these.

01:13:00.000 What I have found, and there's an example of this of someone in a southern state, I won't say which one because they'll know I'm talking about it.

01:13:06.000 But he was raised in an evangelical home, pastor's kid, right?

01:13:10.000 Bible is true, an errant word, but never really was taught why it was true, never really taught the metaphysics, doesn't walk with the Lord anymore, deconstructed, walked away from all of it.

01:13:18.000 And I've seen that happen in disturbing numbers.

01:13:20.000 And so, I just want to make sure you're armed with the expectation and the ability to be able to contest and fight for truth.

01:13:26.000 And then, the final thing is this: commit yourself to courage.

01:13:29.000 Courage is a choice.

01:13:31.000 Courage is not passed in the bloodstream.

01:13:33.000 Here's the cool thing about courage, and that we saw this in World War II.

01:13:37.000 Combat theaters are really interesting lessons for human behavior: is that the tallest, biggest, and sometimes strongest man had the least courage.

01:13:46.000 Courage is something that every single person has access to.

01:13:50.000 It doesn't matter your intellect, your ability to reason.

01:13:53.000 It doesn't matter if you're fast or you're slow.

01:13:54.000 You could fly airplanes or not.

01:13:56.000 It takes a conscious decision to be courageous.

01:13:59.000 George S. Patton, one of the greatest figures ever to live in American history, said, Moral courage is the most necessary yet absent characteristic in men.

01:14:06.000 Aristotle said, Courage is the virtue that ties all the other virtues together.

01:14:10.000 You cannot have justice, contemplation, friendship, peace, or prosperity if you do not have courageous people that are willing to do something about it.

01:14:17.000 What is courage?

01:14:18.000 Doing the right thing when you don't know how it's going to end up.

01:14:22.000 If we are courageous people, our country will dramatically improve.

01:14:25.000 Very good.

01:14:29.000 Yes, sir.

01:14:30.000 Charlie, earlier in your speech, you talked about the importance of having dialogue, which I agreed.

01:14:37.000 That's something the right is often denied, especially today in the age of deplatforming.

01:14:44.000 I'd like to ask you about your debate that you had with Valsch a couple weeks ago.

01:14:49.000 For the audience, Valsh is a YouTuber.

01:14:52.000 He's an open communist.

01:14:53.000 He maybe not advocates, but apologizes for child pornography.

01:14:58.000 He's very strange. 0.98

01:15:00.000 And after the January 6th protest, he suggested that Trump supporters should just be executed.

01:15:07.000 Now, my issue is, Charlie, in this debate, you let him do a lot of the talking, and you didn't really push back on him that much. 0.98

01:15:19.000 Why should we have dialogue with someone as disgusting as Valsh, who would like to basically, you know, kill someone like me and you when Valsh is disgusting like that?

01:15:34.000 Shouldn't we be more in the process of, frankly, humiliating these people and basically owning them? 0.98

01:15:42.000 I do plenty of that too, don't worry.

01:15:46.000 As you probably know.

01:15:47.000 Yeah, I mean, you're telling me more about him than I knew.

01:15:49.000 I mean, I just knew he was kind of a YouTube personality and kind of hadn't shaved in a while.

01:15:54.000 I mean, look, I tend to try to have, maybe it's idealistic, you know, this kind of Christian idea that dialogue is really important before we kind of descend into the lower rungs of humanity.

01:16:05.000 I might be wrong.

01:16:06.000 I should probably be more cynical.

01:16:08.000 But yeah, look, I'm going to go into a discourse that's set up by a neutral party like Tim Poole, as long as it doesn't descend into a direction I don't like with at least the good spiritedness of trying to pursue truth and reason.

01:16:20.000 You've just educated me a lot on some of his views.

01:16:23.000 I came in just knowing he was kind of like this weird libertarian socialist.

01:16:27.000 And I felt actually I got lots of emails that people were persuaded by some of the questions that I asked and kind of the mannerisms that I put forward.

01:16:38.000 So I'd actually ask you to kind of think about that and reflect on that.

01:16:41.000 Because if I went in with a belligerent attitude trying to just blow up the whole thing, I don't know if that would have been helpful to the cause.

01:16:48.000 Maybe I should have been more informed with his prior weird remarks towards that stuff, I guess.

01:16:53.000 But, you know, you're doing a lot of things at once.

01:16:55.000 I don't exactly have a focus on trying to figure out every sort of opinion that someone on YouTube has ever held.

01:17:01.000 But I will say this, though.

01:17:02.000 If you watch the entire thing, watch the dialogue that I had with him on abortion.

01:17:07.000 It changed a lot of people's opinions.

01:17:09.000 Watch the dialogue I had with him on the American founding.

01:17:12.000 And yeah, he did do a lot of talking.

01:17:16.000 And I did a lot of asking of questions.

01:17:18.000 And I think that we should pursue dialogue while we still have it, if we can.

01:17:23.000 And I am a believer that through reason and through speech, we can hopefully, you know, stay away from bullets.

01:17:29.000 You have a follow-up remark really quick?

01:17:31.000 No.

01:17:31.000 Oh, okay.

01:17:32.000 Thanks.

01:17:32.000 Good question.

01:17:33.000 Yes, ma'am.

01:17:34.000 I'm Brooke Sims.

01:17:35.000 And by the way, my great-great-grandfather was George Patton.

01:17:39.000 Wow.

01:17:40.000 I'd love to get your opinion on who killed George Patton, actually.

01:17:48.000 So yeah, privately.

01:17:49.000 Family secret, I don't know.

01:17:53.000 But I'm also a high school government and U.S. history teacher.

01:17:57.000 And during our parent teacher meetings, I tell the parents we are going to have debate Friday.

01:18:02.000 We will debate any topic.

01:18:04.000 I have debated every topic you can think of.

01:18:06.000 But we try to steer it more towards government.

01:18:08.000 What does the law have to say about it?

01:18:11.000 And is it in the Constitution?

01:18:13.000 And I get it from both sides.

01:18:15.000 You can't teach my kid that because I want to teach them that.

01:18:20.000 Or I get it from the other side.

01:18:23.000 Well, 1619 is right and you're wrong.

01:18:26.000 My job is to arm them before they go to college because they're going to go in, especially from Oklahoma, and their mind is going to be blown and they're going to believe anything anybody tells them.

01:18:37.000 But now I'm out of a job because I've got censored from both sides.

01:18:42.000 So if I decide to go back into teaching, what does someone like me do?

01:18:45.000 So wait, so did you have tenure?

01:18:48.000 That's the school we were at?

01:18:49.000 No.

01:18:50.000 So, what are the two sides again?

01:18:50.000 Okay.

01:18:51.000 One's the 1619 side, and what's the other?

01:18:53.000 We debate 1619.

01:18:55.000 They want to know critical race theory.

01:18:56.000 We debate climate change, abortion, marijuana, anything, because they want to know.

01:19:00.000 Your students, your children, want to know what's going on.

01:19:05.000 And so, we debate it constitutionally.

01:19:07.000 Yes, opinions get thrown in there.

01:19:08.000 I never share my opinion unless they come to me afterwards and ask.

01:19:13.000 But I have got it from both sides.

01:19:15.000 So, I'm being censored no matter which way I go.

01:19:18.000 Was this a public school or a private school?

01:19:19.000 Public school.

01:19:20.000 Well, without tenure?

01:19:21.000 Huh?

01:19:21.000 That's actually a great concept.

01:19:23.000 Yeah, it's just other states, you know, teachers.

01:19:25.000 I agree.

01:19:26.000 Yeah, I kind of like that.

01:19:27.000 Yeah, so I guess the question is: what do you do about that?

01:19:29.000 Or just, look, I mean, this is an important thing, which is what is education, which means to lead forth, right?

01:19:38.000 I don't believe students' opinions should be taken seriously until they're 20 years old.

01:19:42.000 They have no idea what the heck they're talking about.

01:19:44.000 Seriously.

01:19:46.000 That's not what education is.

01:19:47.000 You're there to tell them what's true, right?

01:19:49.000 So I want you to think about this.

01:19:51.000 Like, yeah, they can share their opinion and stuff, and you should tell them what's really going on.

01:19:54.000 That's what you should do.

01:19:56.000 And then I do.

01:19:58.000 I give a set of facts that I've gotten, that I've researched.

01:20:02.000 And I don't get it from the students because they want the conversation.

01:20:05.000 It's the parents.

01:20:06.000 Yeah.

01:20:07.000 Yeah, so is a parent saying you're not doing enough?

01:20:10.000 So if you're on the right, especially now with the new law about critical race theory, is that they don't even want the kids to have a discussion in class.

01:20:20.000 Well, if I don't discuss it in class, then they're going to go out into the world and they're going to believe something that's not correct.

01:20:26.000 Yeah, I could see what you're saying.

01:20:29.000 And I can also see where the parents are coming from.

01:20:31.000 I mean, critical race theory is eugenics, is basically the furthest extrapolation.

01:20:35.000 There are certain things we don't teach in school for a reason.

01:20:38.000 They have no place in an academic theater, especially in the development of young children.

01:20:43.000 Happy to dialogue with this privately, but I will say this: that education exists to try to lead children to truth, to goodness, and to beauty.

01:20:52.000 It does not exist to try to give them kind of a portfolio of all the different opinions in the world.

01:20:58.000 You know what I mean?

01:20:59.000 It's kind of irrelevant what Nicole Hannah Jones says about 1619.

01:21:03.000 We don't care.

01:21:03.000 We care about things that are true, right?

01:21:06.000 We care about things that never change.

01:21:08.000 So I'm happy to talk about that later with you.

01:21:09.000 Thank you.

01:21:10.000 Before you go, we've got time.

01:21:11.000 I'm sorry for just a couple more questions.

01:21:13.000 Paternal or maternal? 0.63

01:21:15.000 Great-great-grandfather Patton?

01:21:17.000 Father's side.

01:21:18.000 On your father?

01:21:19.000 Father's side.

01:21:20.000 So your maiden name is Patton?

01:21:22.000 My maiden name is Hoisington, but they married onto the Patton line.

01:21:26.000 Amazing.

01:21:27.000 And which school do you teach at?

01:21:28.000 I used to teach at a small school at Navajo, but I taught here at Enid for several years.

01:21:33.000 Amazing.

01:21:34.000 Wow.

01:21:35.000 Okay, yes, sir.

01:21:36.000 Can you speak on the ATF's reach on pistol braces and frame receivers and how we as citizens continue to defend our gun rights?

01:21:43.000 Yeah, same thing.

01:21:44.000 The ATF or ATS?

01:21:46.000 The ATF.

01:21:46.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.

01:21:48.000 So, yeah, I'm very pro Second Amendment.

01:21:52.000 So, yeah, this is another example where Republicans need to stand up and defend their voters.

01:21:59.000 I'm not libertarian on many issues.

01:22:02.000 There is one issue, which is guns.

01:22:04.000 I think it should be easier to purchase guns in this country, not harder.

01:22:08.000 And I think we should encourage more firearm ownership, responsible firearm ownership, for the citizenry to be able to protect themselves and their way of life.

01:22:16.000 And we should resist the even notion that guns are going to be registered and confiscated in this country.

01:22:21.000 The government has no business doing that.

01:22:22.000 But guess what?

01:22:26.000 We're losing that argument.

01:22:27.000 You know why?

01:22:29.000 If they can mandate vaccines, they can come take your guns every day.

01:22:32.000 Exactly.

01:22:33.000 They are related.

01:22:33.000 Make no mistake.

01:22:34.000 A security state has many different character pattern, and that's one of them.

01:22:40.000 So what can we do about it?

01:22:42.000 Your federal elected officials better start making some noise because he's about to get confirmed as ATF chairman and he oversaw Waco.

01:22:51.000 That worked out great.

01:22:52.000 All right, last two questions.

01:22:55.000 Yes, sir.

01:22:56.000 All right.

01:22:58.000 Earlier you said that there was the narrative wanted confrontation.

01:23:03.000 Is civil war the end game or is there, you know, what do you see in your crystal ball?

01:23:09.000 Yeah.

01:23:11.000 I don't really have a crystal ball.

01:23:12.000 No, I don't necessarily think that's the case.

01:23:15.000 I think there will be a movement, though, of people that live in red states that start to come to the realization.

01:23:21.000 I did a whole podcast on this, and it was very controversial.

01:23:24.000 I don't think it was, but I mean, people, you know, it was called slow motion secession, which is that we're already living through a secession movement.

01:23:32.000 You just don't realize it.

01:23:33.000 And I'll prove it to you.

01:23:35.000 I mean, how many people are moving from one state to the other?

01:23:38.000 How often do you feel as if you don't have one thing in common with people in San Francisco and New York?

01:23:43.000 Not one thing.

01:23:44.000 That's how I feel.

01:23:46.000 When I go to LA, I feel as if I'm in a different country.

01:23:48.000 When I come here, I feel like I'm back in my country.

01:23:51.000 That's a really dangerous thing.

01:23:53.000 I don't necessarily think it's going to lead to armed conflict.

01:23:57.000 I think the Civil War thing is kind of overdone.

01:24:00.000 Could be true.

01:24:01.000 I think that instead you're going to see a coalition of red states that are going to kind of say, outside of the unified currency, what exactly are we doing here?

01:24:08.000 And why are we cooperating to a federal government that hates us?

01:24:12.000 Now, be careful what you wish for.

01:24:13.000 That is not a clean break or something that's easy to broker.

01:24:15.000 Thankfully, all those states are contiguous, so there's something to that, right?

01:24:21.000 But yeah, look, there will be a breaking point where towns like this are basically going to say, what's the point again for not allowing us to govern ourselves?

01:24:30.000 Like, what do we get out of the people of San Francisco and New York?

01:24:33.000 I think it's different, though.

01:24:34.000 I think their end game is that they want to dominate the totality of the United States.

01:24:39.000 They want to govern all of it.

01:24:41.000 They want to indoctrinate your kids. 0.88

01:24:43.000 They want to end homeschooling.

01:24:45.000 This is where the founding fathers were so brilliant to have states' rights.

01:24:48.000 States' rights makes it really hard to do this.

01:24:50.000 It's easy to conquer France. 0.97

01:24:52.000 France is done, by the way.

01:24:53.000 Forget it.

01:24:54.000 Why?

01:24:55.000 They do not have a federated system.

01:24:56.000 They do not have states in France like we do.

01:24:59.000 They do not have governors or states' rights, and they do not have a 10th Amendment like we have.

01:25:02.000 They have provinces and different provinces, different areas.

01:25:05.000 They do not have states' rights like we do in this country.

01:25:07.000 They don't.

01:25:08.000 So when the parliament in Paris says we're doing the lockdown, every part of France locks down.

01:25:14.000 And the parliament in London says we're locking down, every part of London locks down.

01:25:17.000 And here, when Fauci says we're locking down, Oklahoma's like, yeah, not so fast.

01:25:22.000 That's a beautiful thing.

01:25:25.000 All right.

01:25:27.000 All right.

01:25:28.000 Let's do this.

01:25:29.000 Dana, you're very gracious.

01:25:30.000 I think I'm going to stop with you, and that way, these who've been standing in line, thank you for your patience, but we're going to have to end it with one final question that I want to ask of you, and then just some instructions before we dismiss.

01:25:46.000 Yeah, I think we're going to stop with Dana.

01:25:49.000 She's an employee. 0.98

01:25:51.000 Actually, this is a question that was handed to me and asked if I would ask it for them.

01:25:55.000 Okay.

01:25:56.000 My question.

01:25:57.000 So it's from a military wife, and she says, as a military spouse, how do I support my active duty member who faces division and mandates daily?

01:25:57.000 Go ahead.

01:26:09.000 We love living in Enid, but the base military life challenges our daily life.

01:26:14.000 You know what?

01:26:14.000 I'm glad you pressed, and I understand why you were asked to ask that.

01:26:19.000 Okay, so on behalf of a military couple here tonight who wish to remain anonymous, how can you support my husband who's really undergoing it?

01:26:29.000 Yeah, so this is this is kind of actually completes the point with the final part of the essay I'm going to write, How We Win, and this is a perfect actual ending to all of this, which is the brutal realization of the moment that we're in, which is, as I answered that question about the conversation I had with the libertarian socialists, that was helpful in trying to change the zeitgeist of persuadable people.

01:26:50.000 I'm telling you right now, the people in charge, they're not going to be convinced any longer.

01:26:54.000 They are going to mandate vaccines for active duty personnel very soon, unless all of a sudden, the combined political power of the state and local level all of a sudden push back against this.

01:27:05.000 This is where your governor needs to get involved.

01:27:07.000 This is where your governor is like, hey, any state support for the federal military in Oklahoma is going to stop if you mandate vaccines.

01:27:13.000 It's not going to happen.

01:27:15.000 So I'll give you an example of a very clear way that this can work.

01:27:18.000 Now, when you start to escalate this, it can go wrong.

01:27:22.000 You can fracture the country.

01:27:23.000 But they're trying to do this and they don't respect us.

01:27:26.000 I'll give you an example.

01:27:27.000 Biden says, I don't care about the eviction moratorium.

01:27:30.000 I don't care about what the Supreme Court says.

01:27:32.000 I'm going to do my own thing, right?

01:27:33.000 He is the first president since Andrew Jackson in 1832, Woodski v. Georgia, just to say, hey, I'm going to kind of make my own laws up.

01:27:41.000 Okay.

01:27:42.000 Then North Dakota, South Dakota, and Oklahoma should say, okay, we're going to go build the Keystone XL pipeline.

01:27:46.000 Thanks for shopping.

01:27:50.000 That simple.

01:27:52.000 If all of a sudden you're going to make an argument, needs-based moral argument, well, we can't kick people out of their homes because the Delta variant, like, okay, well, you can't cancel jobs on the pipeline and you can't sacrifice their energy independence.

01:28:03.000 They're going back to work tomorrow by executive order of the governor of Oklahoma, South Dakota, North Dakota.

01:28:07.000 The federal government has no say here.

01:28:08.000 Now, you can have a nullification crisis if you do that, make no mistake.

01:28:11.000 They will back down.

01:28:13.000 These are weak people that will shatter at the first point of con.

01:28:17.000 I deal with these people all day long, okay?

01:28:19.000 These are paranoid people that don't think we're ever going to rise up and challenge them.

01:28:23.000 So from the military side, it would be great if we had senators that actually decided to defend our military against forced vaccinations.

01:28:29.000 I haven't seen their comments on that, but this would be a great kind of chance for Inhoff to kind of flex his muscle with all of the multi-decades of credibility he's built on the Armed Services Committee.

01:28:39.000 If I'm not mistaken, that's been one of his highlights of his career.

01:28:42.000 He could end this.

01:28:44.000 He could. 0.99

01:28:45.000 He knows every single one of these generals by name and has given them everything they wanted the last 30 years, every stupid war that we've gotten into of rebuilding a country that falls apart in an afternoon when we decide to pull out. 0.79

01:28:56.000 It's about maybe Senator Inhoff, with all the respect I have for him, which is a lot. 0.86

01:29:00.000 He needs to stand up and say, my entire career, I gave you every helicopter, every missile you asked for.

01:29:05.000 You are not vaccinating active duty personnel in this state or across the country.

01:29:10.000 It's not happening.

01:29:13.000 He could end this tomorrow.

01:29:14.000 It's like, well, I don't have that power.

01:29:17.000 Like, yes, you do.

01:29:19.000 You go to the Pentagon.

01:29:20.000 You have been the piggy bank for them for years.

01:29:24.000 He's given them everything they want.

01:29:26.000 And all of a sudden, we're supposed to believe these people have no political power.

01:29:30.000 Like, Cry Me a River.

01:29:31.000 You have our heroes at Air Force bases that are sending me these beautiful letters across the country saying, I am being forced to take a medical, experimental medical vaccine against my will.

01:29:42.000 I want to sacrifice my country, and my own leaders won't stand up for me.

01:29:46.000 So they need to hear from you.

01:29:47.000 The governors need to hear from you.

01:29:48.000 And I don't want to hear we don't have power.

01:29:50.000 Figure it out.

01:29:51.000 Think like Lincoln, okay?

01:29:53.000 Lincoln was creative and crafty.

01:29:55.000 They said, Well, you know, Lincoln, you can't abolish slavery.

01:29:57.000 And he said, Okay, give me an afternoon.

01:29:58.000 He came back.

01:29:59.000 Well, I can't abolish slavery, but under act of war, I can say you can serve in my military if I abolish slave and emancipate those that might already be slaved.

01:30:05.000 And in the middle states, like, well, that's kind of unprecedented.

01:30:08.000 Well, that's what I'm doing.

01:30:09.000 And it's called the Emancipation Proclamation.

01:30:11.000 Think like Lincoln, Republicans.

01:30:13.000 Stop thinking like lawyers that are a bunch of yes men in the corporate class.

01:30:16.000 Our voters are under attack.

01:30:17.000 And let's forget voters. 0.66

01:30:19.000 Our heroes are under attack.

01:30:20.000 If we can't stand up for our veterans, what good is our political system?

01:30:24.000 Yes, it's time to start raising the temperature.

01:30:25.000 It's time to start using political power.

01:30:28.000 This vaccine is a trial run for Orwellian totalitarianism.

01:30:32.000 And so your leaders in this state have a real chance in the next 60 days to find out what they're made out of.

01:30:37.000 They've done a lot over the last couple of years for this entire military-industrial complex.

01:30:41.000 I sure hope they start using that muscle.

01:30:43.000 If this is not your home church and you have a pastor that might want to be part of a coalition for liberty, please contact us at Turning Point Faith and talk to Jonathan.

01:30:51.000 If you're interested in the homeschool thing, if I could just summarize some of the points, that's okay.

01:30:55.000 Charlie F-Or Hillsdale.com.

01:30:57.000 Finally, I've deputized all the teenagers to go subscribe, all of you, to the podcast.

01:31:01.000 But I think you will enjoy it.

01:31:02.000 We do two podcasts a day.

01:31:03.000 We talk about the gospel.

01:31:05.000 We talk about what's happening in the world.

01:31:07.000 We'd love to become one of your go-to news sources.

01:31:09.000 And then finally, everybody, you have more power than the media has led you to believe.

01:31:13.000 This is still a citizen-led project.

01:31:17.000 Speak truth always.

01:31:18.000 You know what Satan does really well?

01:31:20.000 Disempowers you, makes you feel as if you don't have a voice.

01:31:23.000 It doesn't matter what you do.

01:31:25.000 That is not of the Lord.

01:31:26.000 What you do matters.

01:31:28.000 The founders gave us a gift of this beautiful country.

01:31:31.000 And standing alongside of you, we're going to save it.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - August 23, 2021

'How We Win' — A LIVE Q&A on Vaccines, Confederate Statues, Courage, and Victory from Emmanuel Enid Church in Oklahoma

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