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00:00:34.000Miranda Devine is here to talk about the laptop from hell.
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00:04:11.000It hit number one on Amazon um day one and uh ended the week um number two overall.
00:04:17.000So um, I think there's a hunger out there for the truth about what was on Hunter Biden's laptop.
00:04:24.000Um, you know, at the NEW YORK POST uh, we tried, we um Emma Joe Morris, my colleague, wrote some brilliant stories three weeks before the election last year um, with some of the most damning emails about Joe Biden that were on the laptop and which were denied by him, and which showed that he had met Hunter Biden's business partners, something that he denied during the election campaign.
00:04:49.000So I I think that people want to know one way or the other, and i've tried to write it not as a polemic but just as a straight piece of reportage, using not just the laptop but information from Toy Bobolinski and also from the Senate inquiry by Chuck Grassly and Ron Johnson.
00:05:08.000Yeah, and I hope if Republicans take back Congress they will depose Hunter Biden for some of these questions.
00:05:34.000If you're referring to the chatter online about pedophilia yes, pedophilia images um no, I didn't find anything like that.
00:05:44.000I mean, there was um a photograph of a?
00:05:49.000Um young girl, um aged 13, 14 at the time um, and she this was obviously um taken in like a school bathroom with some, some friends.
00:06:00.000They were all putting on makeup in the mirror.
00:06:03.000She's seen in the background uh, getting changed and that the image just captures um, you know, part of one of her breasts and um, that was um you know enough to scare Rudy Giuliani and Bernie Carrick.
00:06:20.000Um, Rudy Giuliani, when that picture was brought to his attention by one of his staff that was going through the laptop, he asked Bernie Carrick if this was, um you know, a notifiable image in terms of you have to notify the authorities if you find child pornography.
00:06:38.000And Bernie Carrick, former commissioner of police, said, yes, under New York Law.
00:06:42.000Technically, it was so that frightened both of them enough to take a copy of the hard drive and deliver it to the Delaware police, and they were being scrupulously careful in that case.
00:06:58.000I think that that is one of several images not several, I mean thousands of images that were um, downloaded onto uh well, uploaded into the cloud as part of a family, Family sharing situation of photos.
00:07:13.000And there were a lot of pictures of children from school outings and various things that kids do with their friends, sporting activities and so on.
00:07:24.000They really had nothing to do with Hunter, very childish stuff that was just part of, again, his being part of this family sharing operation.
00:07:31.000I think they were downloaded onto his laptop, which had tens of thousands of images, some of which were just completely random and had nothing to do with his life.
00:07:41.000So I've laid that out, but I don't see any evidence that Hunter Biden has a taste or an interest in underage women.
00:07:49.000All the sex, he filmed himself having sex with hundreds of women.
00:07:55.000And some of it he uploaded onto websites like Pornhub.
00:08:03.000So none of the others, some doctored images online.
00:08:06.000I think there's, you know, and I don't like dishonesty being reported about the laptop because there's such wrongdoing on the laptop.
00:08:16.000And if you make up something or you exaggerate something, you're taking away from the wrongdoing that does exist and for which there is evidence.
00:08:26.000That's why I asked because there's so many rumors and nonsense and chatter at times.
00:08:30.000And so let's just talk about the significance of this.
00:08:33.000Here you have a laptop from the now president's son that almost no one in the media cares anything about.
00:08:39.000I mean, just you've been in this world for quite some time.
00:08:42.000Just can you talk a little bit about this before we go into more of the details of just how extraordinary the effort has been to ignore this?
00:08:51.000I mean, it takes more effort to ignore it than to report it.
00:08:56.000We saw that when the New York Post first published it, you know, in October.
00:09:00.000We saw the heavy hand of big tech, Facebook and Twitter came down and censored it within hours of it going up online.
00:09:08.000And that gave an excuse to the Biden-friendly media, the anti-Trump media, to then ignore it and reduce our reporting.
00:09:16.000And then on top of that, you had this extraordinary intervention by John Brennan, the former CIA director, and 50 of his fellow former intelligence operatives and former high-ranking defense people like Leon Panetta and Michael Hayden, James Clapper, who all should be ashamed of themselves.
00:09:35.000They published a letter in Politico, which was a propaganda document, lying and saying that this laptop and our reporting by extension had all the hallmarks of a Russian disinformation operation in their expert opinion.
00:09:51.000And then they admit down the bottom of this ridiculous letter that they had never even looked at the laptop.
00:10:03.000And that was a very valuable document to further just completely crush the story and to assist Joe Biden when he went up against Donald Trump in the last debate.
00:10:18.000And as soon as Donald Trump raised it and said, you know, raised the story that we'd published and said, you know, they're saying you're a corrupt politician, Joe.
00:10:28.000Joe Biden immediately went into high umbrage mode and cited this letter and said, the intelligence community has pronounced that it's Russian disinformation.
00:10:43.000No more questions were asked and the story was buried.
00:10:46.000And we know from polls that were taken, Media Research Center did polls after the election that almost half of Biden voters didn't know about the laptop scandal, didn't know that Hunter Biden was under investigation.
00:11:00.000And one-tenth of those, if they had known, would have changed their vote.
00:11:05.000And in an election that was won by 45,000 votes in a handful of battleground states, that could have made a material difference to the outcome.
00:11:12.000It's one of the great interferences of elections we've ever seen.
00:11:38.000Well, it seems that Gen Z is the generation that, you know, age nine to 25 who have, they've grown up with the, you know, the internet and a cell phone in their hand.
00:11:51.000And they're able to, I guess, find their own information and they're more skeptical about what they're fed, the sort of meta narratives from the media than their sort of millennial seniors and elders and certainly the boomers and Gen X.
00:12:09.000They seem to be more savvy and more willing to think for themselves.
00:12:13.000They've been fully brainwashed or attempted to be indoctrinated by their schools, often by their parents as well, to sort of the left leaning notions, but they can see the reality before them and they are not trusting of authority and they are more trusting of their peers.
00:12:32.000And I think that's what you guys do at Turning Point USA.
00:12:35.000It's what this group that's sort of colonized TikTok called Today in America, Is America has done as well.
00:12:43.000And that's just to harness the power, the intellect, the inquisitiveness and the energy of this enormous group of voters that are coming of age.
00:12:56.000Certainly by 2024, we know that Gen Z and the millennials will be the largest voting block.
00:13:03.000And I think it's so heartening to you meet them, you know them, you're with them all the time with Turning Point USA and turning them on and switching them on to the reality of politics and life.
00:13:18.000And they see, I think, in a way, with Joe Biden's, I mean, it's been terrible for America, his presidency, but also it's been a real red pill moment, especially for young people and the pandemic.
00:13:30.000You know, they've been the most damaged by the lockdowns and the closures and the curfews.
00:13:36.000Their generation, their high school, their school, their college, their futures have all been ruined.
00:13:44.000At a time when they want to socialize and it's so important to them to be with their peers, they've been isolated, you know, causing mental health issues and so on.
00:13:53.000And yet this is a virus that doesn't hurt them for the most part.
00:13:57.000I mean, they're the least affected by the virus.
00:14:00.000And so they have been expected to make these enormous sacrifices on behalf of older people or obese people who are affected by the virus.
00:14:10.000And I think that there is going to be a backlash coming.
00:14:14.000You know, you see older people scolding young people for not, you know, kids at school for not wearing their masks properly or for not getting triple vaxed.
00:15:25.000I get to see the insanity of the indoctrination from Gen Z, but I totally agree that there is a... there is kind of this rejection of the lockdown, forced vaccination, you've stole my entire future away.
00:15:39.000And there is some contradicting data out there of whether or not they want to live in a society that actually respects their individual liberty and freedom.
00:15:53.000There is some polling out there, and I don't really trust the polling, but that shows that in some ways we're creating the generation after Gen Z might be one that is totally different than Gen Z, much more safetyist focused.
00:16:05.000But you have 17-year-olds in college that are being told, 18-year-olds in college, you have to wear a mask all day long.
00:16:11.000And for a virus, that isn't going to significantly impact them in any way.
00:16:16.000Miranda, there's an increasing amount of chatter about the Russia-Ukrainian issue.
00:16:24.000And it begs the question anytime this kind of surfaces, what capital flows existed or exist between the Ukrainian government or the Ukrainian power structure and Hunter Biden?
00:16:37.000What do we know as far as money that Hunter Biden received from Ukrainian oligarchs, gas companies, and even Russia as well?
00:16:49.000Well, there's less money coming from Russia and Ukraine that's evident on the laptop and in the Bobolinsky material than there is from China.
00:16:57.000But what we know is that, first of all, that Hunter Biden was being paid $83,000 a month by the corrupt Ukrainian energy company Burisma during his father's vice presidency.
00:17:10.000And after Joe Biden's term ended, his pay for sitting on the board of Burisma was cut in half.
00:17:19.000And we also know that there was, we actually know this from the Johnson Gradsley report that $3.5 million was funneled into the bank account of an associate or a business partner,
00:17:38.000Devon Archer of Hunter Biden's, by Elena Bachurina, who is Russia's richest woman, the wife, now widow of the corrupt former Moscow mayor.
00:17:51.000And we also know that Hunter Biden met Elena Bachurina just a few weeks after that money hit the bank account.
00:17:58.000He met her in Lake Como at Villa de Est, which is a haunt, beautiful mansion, hotel, luxury hotel on the shore of Lake Como, which is a haunt of corrupt oligarchs from around the world.
00:18:12.000And we also know that he was doing the bidding of the Ukrainian owners of Burisma in terms of the owner, Nikolai Slajewski, was in trouble because he had been the former energy minister of the Russia-aligned Ukrainian government that was ousted in the Maiden Revolution with the help of the United States.
00:18:40.000And he was under investigation by Interpol, by the British, and in conjunction with the FBI.
00:18:48.000And they had frozen his bank accounts in London with millions of dollars in it.
00:18:53.000And in Ukraine, the chief prosecutor was also investigating him for corruption.
00:18:59.000So he needed to have some intervention from the most powerful country in the world, America, to try and call off the dogs.
00:19:09.000And this was why he hired Hunter Biden and Devon Archer to sit on his board.
00:19:16.000Really, Hunter was not qualified for this job.
00:19:20.000He was a raging crackhead at the time as well.
00:19:23.000And all he had to do for it was show up once a year to Monte Carlo or Paris or some glamorous destination for a board meeting.
00:19:32.000But there were also emails from his handler at Burisma basically laying out the demands, which were that he had to get important people in the American government to sing the praises of Burisma, to sing the praises of Zlachevsky.
00:19:50.000And this was really quite disturbing to some lower level members of the State Department, you know, officials of the State Department in Ukraine, who tried to warn Joe Biden's office.
00:20:03.000And in fact, in one case, one low-level staffer was on Air Force 2 with Joe Biden going into Kiev one time.
00:20:12.000And he actually confronted Joe Biden quite courageously and said to him, your son's involvement with this corrupt energy company is causing a problem for America because we are trying to impose these requirements on Ukraine that they can only receive US aid if they stamp out corruption.
00:20:35.000And yet your son is diluting that message at the very least.
00:20:41.000I mean, Joe obviously told Hunter to meet this official because there is a record in Hunter's diary of a couple of meetings with him and a couple of phone calls.
00:20:51.000But Hunter Biden continued to earn money from Burisma.
00:20:57.000And the most disturbing part of the Burisma equation, just to end, is that Joe Biden boasted that he had forced or pressured the Ukrainian government of President Boroshenko to fire their chief prosecutor, a man called Viktor Shokin.
00:21:16.000And Joe Biden said that he had threatened to withhold $1 billion of US aid that Ukraine desperately needed unless Shokin was fired.
00:21:26.000And Joe Biden explained this as saying, well, you know, the prosecutor is corrupt and he wasn't investigating corruption, which I think is so important.
00:21:37.000And what really was happening was that Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor, was investigating Burisma.
00:21:45.000And a few days before he was fired, he had, or a few weeks it might have been, he had seized property belonging to Burisma's owner, mansions in Kiev, plots of land, even a Rolls-Royce Silver Phantom.
00:21:59.000And also Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor, has given, or the former prosecutor, has since given interviews in Ukraine, which didn't get much attention here, but saying that his next protocol was subpoenas for Hunter Biden and his business partner, Devon Archer.
00:22:18.000And Joe Biden's intervention, the president of Ukraine, Poroshenko, was very reluctant.
00:22:23.000There are phone, leaked phone conversations between them at this time, which I have in the book, which showed that Poroshenko did not want to fire Viktor Shokin.
00:22:33.000He said there was no evidence of any corruption and Joe Biden insisted at several flurry of phone calls in that period, really desperate to get Shokin fired.
00:22:43.000Finally, Poroshenko reluctantly fired his chief prosecutor.
00:22:48.000And of course, then the job went to a politician.
00:22:51.000The investigation against Burisma was very quickly wound up with a $5 million fine.
00:23:04.000And I mean, it was an investment to try and protect their entire scheme.
00:23:09.000But it doesn't just stop with Ukraine.
00:23:11.000It also, the one that is the most interesting that the laptop revealed that we weren't ever allowed to have a discussion with while we were experiencing the horror of a virus from this country is the Tony Bobulinsky kind of Chinese issue.
00:23:35.000Tony Bobolinski, a Navy veteran, a successful businessman in his own right, was sort of dragged into this Hunter Biden, Joe Biden influence peddling scheme and sort of realized, I mean, he was brought in to legitimize it and exert proper corporate governance on this new joint venture with China.
00:24:00.000But he soon found himself in this just complete mess, a total disaster, and regretted it.
00:24:07.000But to his great credit, he stood up before the election and he said, he amplified our story that had been censored and said, this is true.
00:24:21.000He is the patriarch and the instigator, the orchestrator of this international influence peddling scheme that was enriching the Bidens at a great cost to America's national security.
00:24:36.000I look at it as a jigsaw puzzle when I was writing the book.
00:24:40.000It's part of the jigsaw puzzle, but a big part of the jigsaw puzzle is Tony Bobolinski and the contents of his three phones that he handed over to the FBI, which contain WhatsApp messages and documents and emails and so on, which I have, and which overlap with a lot of the material and confirm and verify a lot of the material on the laptop, but also augment it.
00:25:02.000And then a third piece of the jigsaw puzzle is that Johnson-Grasley Senate report, because they had treasury documents, these suspicious activity reports showing this sort of money that was coming in from suspect sources overseas into American bank accounts that were associated with Hunter Biden and his partners.
00:25:23.000So those three pieces of the jigsaw puzzle really give you a very disturbing view into the whole scheme, how blatant it was.
00:25:34.000You know, it wasn't very sophisticated.
00:25:37.000It was really just Joe Biden's sort of Tammany Hall shakedown of donors and corporations in Delaware that wanted favors from him in his powerful positions in the Senate.
00:25:50.000As over the years, he was chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, gave him a lot of pull in Delaware.
00:25:59.000And he'd always managed to get for his family, you know, sort of these grifters, everything.
00:26:09.000They had a life of immense entitlement and privilege.
00:26:14.000They had any, you know, Ivy League college entries, judge clerkships, jobs, government sinecures, you know, inflated salaries, whatever they wanted, the Biden family got.
00:26:31.000And the most damaging to America, of course, is the Chinese grift and the Chinese influence selling.
00:26:40.000And we know, for instance, in 2013, Joe Biden brought his son Hunter to Beijing on Air Force Two for his meetings with President Xi Jinping and the top authorities in the Communist Party of China.
00:26:56.000And we also know during that trip that Joe Biden went into a private meeting, shook hands with Hunter Biden's new business partner there in China, and that a few days after they left China, that Hunter Biden became a 10% owner of this Chinese company, BHR Investment Fund, which in 2019 had $2.5 billion worth of funds under management.
00:27:24.000In effect, he was in partnership with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:27:29.000The last time I looked in September, his lawyer, his new lawyer, has told the New York Times more recently that he divested himself of that 10% share.
00:27:43.000His company, Scenatolese, is still listed on the Chinese corporate registers as a 10% owner.
00:27:50.000Scenadoles is still listed in Delaware, but it's listed as being on the Delaware Corporate Register as being dormant or license revoked, but that's for, I think, not paying yearly dues.
00:28:06.000So I don't know whether he really has sold his 10% or not.
00:28:11.000And when Jen Saki was asked by the New York Post Washington correspondent Stephen Nelson just a few days ago, she refused to answer and she referred all questions to Hunter Biden's lawyer, who does not answer questions from the New York Post.
00:28:26.000So we're none the wiser and it's outrageous that the White House does not come clean with the American people.
00:28:34.000If Hunter Biden has sold his share, he should be telling us how much for and who did he sell it to and when.
00:28:40.000Well, there's so much more we can even get into this and it's just the surface.
00:28:44.000It's Laptop from Hell by Miranda Devine.
00:28:46.000I wish we had more time left to have you back on soon.
00:28:49.000And it's just the fact that there hasn't been widespread criminal investigations into this.
00:29:14.000And I'm very busy, always trying to prep for this show, try to read a book a week, do our best to try to do that.
00:29:20.000So Caldwell argues in the age of entitlement that there was a great game that was played when we passed the Civil Rights Act.
00:29:29.000That's not to say that there were not changes that were necessary.
00:29:32.000There's not to say that it was all bad.
00:29:35.000But there was a rather aggressive, almost like a square peg through a round hole style posture that was taken by the Civil Rights Act regime to make the federal government the enforcement arm of anti-racism.
00:29:56.000Now, I know some people that believe that was perfectly fine, that it was the right move to use federal troops to desegregate schools.
00:30:06.000I actually probably sympathize with that, to be perfectly honest.
00:30:11.000But when it started to get tricky, it was when all of a sudden private businesses were going to be forced what to do.
00:30:18.000It also went so far, so dramatic, that all of a sudden the definition of civil rights was expanded beyond anything that everyone could have imagined.
00:30:26.000It was more than access to representation at the polls, but also it became into private interactions.
00:30:33.000But because of the expansion of the power that was given to the Department of Justice and with it, an entire civil rights kind of monstrosity, a machine that was created, we have seen the past couple decades the unintended consequences of such a regime.
00:30:51.000And no one should be surprised now when you have people on MSNBC suggesting that the federal government should now send troops to take over elections in states, or they might require voter ID.
00:31:07.000In Cut 91, some lunatic that shouldn't be allowed to get near political power says that the federal government should now use troops to take over elections in states if they don't allow mass mail and voting and if they dare purge their voter rolls.
00:31:41.000And I know this is something that hasn't been done in 50, 60 years, but you know what happened when the federal government said, hey, Brown versus Board of Education, we've got to integrate schools?
00:32:11.000Thankfully, the Constitution was written for people like him, but the Civil Rights Act and the whole regime that followed, it set that precedent.
00:32:22.000And I'm going to make a prediction here that ahead of the midterm elections, Merrick Garland deploys Department of Justice federal shock troops to battleground states and for swing states that are necessary for Republicans to take back the Senate.
00:32:37.000Do not be surprised if Merrick Garland does a press release in June of this next year and says, DOJ to send 2,000 election observers to Maricopa County.
00:32:48.000Now, the election observers will not be there to try to catch fraud.
00:32:52.000No, they're going to be there to see whether or not mail and ballots go to every single person.
00:32:59.000They're bringing election observers in to make sure the fraud goes untouched.
00:33:04.000Do not be surprised that for Herschel Walker's Senate race, which he's already up on Raphael Warnock significantly, Trump endorsed Herschel Walker Heisman Trophy winning Herschel Walker, probably the second best running back ever in college football history.
00:33:20.000Where Herschel Walker is going to be in a very tight Senate race, tons of money will flow in.
00:33:26.000Don't be surprised when the Department of Justice announces, hey, we're going to come bring in federal troops to try to make sure that we get what we want on the ground.
00:33:38.000And what is the word that that lunatic said on MSNBC?