The Charlie Kirk Show - If Feminism Rotting Away at the Church?

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, it's the other Charlie Kirk show.

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00:01:14.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:02:12.000 Hello, everybody.

00:02:13.000 Thank you, Lance.

00:02:14.000 That was great.

00:02:15.000 Great to see you guys.

00:02:16.000 Honored to be here.

00:02:17.000 And it's much more festive than the last time we met a couple days before the election, right?

00:02:24.000 I was, yeah, you can celebrate.

00:02:26.000 It's good.

00:02:26.000 Glory be to God, right?

00:02:28.000 A lot better.

00:02:30.000 And I mean, it must be repeated that what happened, of course, back in November, we're living through is a moment of grace.

00:02:36.000 We did not earn it.

00:02:38.000 It really is the Lord's providence on many different ways that Trump's life was spared on the 13th of July in Butler, Pennsylvania, that so many sequential events.

00:02:49.000 And I see this opening and this opportunity.

00:02:51.000 I know you guys have been talking about this a lot here.

00:02:53.000 Lance is doing a phenomenal job.

00:02:55.000 We are in complete harmony with what Lance is doing, and we want to be helpful with Turning Point USA and TPSA Faith.

00:03:01.000 But I want to give you just a short update from the front lines, kind of to play into what you guys have been talking about with the real divide in the country, which is male versus female, talk about that and how the church, I think, is not properly addressing it.

00:03:14.000 So, as you know, I visit college campuses, so you guys don't have to, and we are in the midst of an even more ambitious campus tour than what we saw in the fall.

00:03:25.000 I'm visiting, I think, 27 college campuses, almost one every single day.

00:03:29.000 Tomorrow is Boise State.

00:03:30.000 Thursday is Washington State.

00:03:32.000 Last week, we were at Illinois, University of Illinois, Illinois State, Purdue, University of South Carolina, and Michigan State University, drawing crowds of three, four, five, 6,000 people.

00:03:40.000 Students in the middle of the day, largest events they have on campus, coming in in record numbers.

00:03:45.000 Praise the Lord.

00:03:47.000 We don't compromise at all on truth what we talk about.

00:03:50.000 We talk about the Lord.

00:03:51.000 We talk about transgenderism.

00:03:52.000 We talk about abortion.

00:03:54.000 I'm going to get into that because I think it's really instructive and helpful for how we think about how the church should address this moment in culture.

00:04:01.000 And by the way, one of the reasons why these students are showing up in record numbers is they tell me how dissatisfied and underwhelmed they are with American Christianity and the church.

00:04:10.000 And I'll tell you, and I'll build that out further.

00:04:12.000 So we're on tour.

00:04:13.000 Many of you have probably seen the videos.

00:04:14.000 They've kind of become somewhat of a cultural phenomenon.

00:04:17.000 If you haven't seen the videos, it's okay.

00:04:18.000 Ask your grandkids because I can almost guarantee you.

00:04:21.000 They're watching the videos.

00:04:23.000 But it's fun.

00:04:23.000 It's raw.

00:04:24.000 It's authentic.

00:04:24.000 Anyone can come up to the microphone, ask me whatever they want.

00:04:27.000 We're there for three hours.

00:04:28.000 I was joking around with my wife.

00:04:31.000 I tallied up the math.

00:04:32.000 I spent seven and a half hours over a 24-hour period talking to college kids.

00:04:36.000 And so we have some of the most entertaining dialogues imaginable.

00:04:42.000 Literal Satanists show up to our events.

00:04:44.000 We had one last week, Cole Satanist with the goat head. 0.96

00:04:48.000 And I rebuked him in Jesus' name, and he fled.

00:04:51.000 As the scriptures say, that's exactly what happened.

00:04:53.000 And so, no joke, you can watch the video.

00:04:55.000 I'd say, I'm not kidding.

00:04:56.000 I say, flee Satan, and he just walked away.

00:04:58.000 It was one of the craziest things.

00:05:00.000 Didn't say anything.

00:05:01.000 He just literally just walked away as if he was being ushered away.

00:05:04.000 So the truth of the Bible on full display on a college campus.

00:05:09.000 So I am kind of like an unofficial, let's just say like generational anthropologist where I could tell you what's going on with the species and what's going on with the next generation.

00:05:21.000 And I say this as you guys know my heart, as humbly as I can say it, probably better than almost any expert on TV.

00:05:28.000 I could tell you actually what a young person is thinking, what they're going through, what's motivating them, what's driving them.

00:05:34.000 Because I talk to so many of them.

00:05:36.000 And it's different than other people that say they talk to young people.

00:05:39.000 I don't just go give lectures and leave the room.

00:05:41.000 I am feet away from hundreds of thousands of young people throughout the year.

00:05:45.000 And I could feel their anxieties, their emotions, their passions, their ups and their downs.

00:05:51.000 And so it is first just, and we see this in the data, but also up front, you guys know this, and it's worth emphasizing.

00:05:58.000 There's something so promising and encouraging happening with the men of the West.

00:06:03.000 It's not just America.

00:06:04.000 It's happening in the United Kingdom.

00:06:05.000 It's happening in Germany, where young men under the age of 30 are actually even more conservative than their grandparents.

00:06:12.000 And so I want to just repeat that, that if you take an average 21-year-old man, whether it be black, Hispanic, Asian, or white, they are actually more conservative than an average 75-year-old man.

00:06:22.000 In fact, again, this is not a criticism.

00:06:24.000 I say this on my show all the time.

00:06:25.000 People get mad about it.

00:06:27.000 Baby boomers are moving more to the left and Gen Z is Moving more to the right. 1.00

00:06:31.000 You could decide not to like that, but it's the truth.

00:06:33.000 Baby boomers are much more likely to say the institutions don't need to be revolutionized. 0.81

00:06:38.000 They don't like the talk about how our system is rigged.

00:06:41.000 Again, I'm sure there's plenty of exceptions here in the baby boomer department. 0.82

00:06:45.000 But also, where do you get your information from?

00:06:48.000 If you're a baby boomer, you're watching CNN, you're watching cable news, you still trust the newspaper.

00:06:53.000 Where a young person is getting it straight from the source, they're getting from TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, X, and some of these decentralized places.

00:06:59.000 So, when you look at the data, the men of the West are moving dramatically to the right.

00:07:04.000 And that's incredibly inspiring.

00:07:05.000 Let me tell you why this is happening.

00:07:07.000 And almost no one will tell you this.

00:07:09.000 And I will not give you a doctrinal or theological perspective on this.

00:07:15.000 I'm going to just tell you an efficacy one, which is women giving men orders, especially in the church. 0.80

00:07:19.000 It's very simple.

00:07:20.000 Why are men going to the right?

00:07:22.000 There's like 15 reasons for it.

00:07:24.000 The one that no one mentions, young men don't like taking orders from women.

00:07:28.000 Very simple.

00:07:29.000 You could disagree at that.

00:07:30.000 It is a truth of nature.

00:07:33.000 Right?

00:07:33.000 I mean, no one says this out loud.

00:07:36.000 No one likes saying it.

00:07:39.000 And no one wants to repeat it.

00:07:41.000 I'm not saying it's a good thing, but 17-year-old men detest at their core, especially a shrill, you know, person who needs the Lord to tell them what to do.

00:08:02.000 Even worse, to tell them that they're bad for existing.

00:08:06.000 To tell them that they are, at their core, just dust.

00:08:10.000 That creates a sense of rebellion.

00:08:14.000 And we have seen that cultural rebellion that almost nobody in the media wants to diagnose.

00:08:19.000 It's fine.

00:08:19.000 We've taken full advantage of it.

00:08:20.000 We're enjoying the harvest.

00:08:21.000 It's fine.

00:08:21.000 Keep ignoring it.

00:08:23.000 And, you know, Gavin Newsome on his podcast.

00:08:24.000 He's doing the hand thing, you know, when I go on there, right?

00:08:27.000 He's like, why are young men moving so far to the right?

00:08:31.000 Again, young men don't like to take orders from women, and they certainly do not like to have a hyper-feminized, anti-masculine agenda that is presented in every form or fashion.

00:08:45.000 Now, the easy way to explain this is like, okay, it's just a war on men.

00:08:49.000 It's fundamentally deeper than that.

00:08:51.000 It's laced in everything.

00:08:52.000 So if you understand identity politics, I'll give you like a crash course in identity politics.

00:08:57.000 We have a biblical worldview.

00:08:58.000 We believe there's only two categories, saved and unsaved.

00:09:00.000 That's all that matters at the end, right?

00:09:02.000 Jesus will literally divide the sheep and the goats, and he'll divide.

00:09:05.000 He says, either saved or not saved.

00:09:06.000 I know you, I don't know you.

00:09:07.000 That's the only distinction that we believe that ultimately matters in spiritual dimension.

00:09:11.000 The left, they view completely different.

00:09:14.000 You guys know this, oppressor, oppressed.

00:09:16.000 They view everything through that lens.

00:09:17.000 So their worldview is on Israel, who's the oppressor, who's the oppressed, right? 0.84

00:09:21.000 Israel must be the oppressor. 1.00

00:09:23.000 Palestinians must be the oppressed. 1.00

00:09:24.000 When it comes to domestic issues, it must be, well, the white people are in charge and the black people must be oppressed. 1.00

00:09:32.000 So that is an extension of economic Marxism. 0.64

00:09:35.000 Economic Marxism views the world through the bourgeoisie and the proletariat.

00:09:39.000 Bourgeoisie are the business owners. 1.00

00:09:41.000 The proletariat are the employees. 1.00

00:09:43.000 And so what Herbert Marcuse did in the Frankfurt School post-1950s is he extrapolated the economic Marxist lens and then applied it to the cultural Marxist lens.

00:09:52.000 Said, instead of looking at the bourgeoisie versus the proletariat, we're going to apply it to race and gender.

00:09:56.000 So it's more than just class.

00:09:58.000 That is critical theory and cultural Marxism in a nutshell.

00:10:01.000 You guys should repeat that to all of your neighbors whenever you're going for a walk because that's what's going on.

00:10:06.000 Okay, that explains 99% of all of our problems.

00:10:09.000 So therefore, you must come up with a villain.

00:10:11.000 If your whole life is viewing things through the prism of not right versus wrong or just or unjust or moral, immoral, which how we view the world, we view the world through is it right or wrong?

00:10:22.000 Is it pleasing to God or displeasing to God?

00:10:25.000 Is it closer to the decalogue or further from the decalogue?

00:10:28.000 Is it Christ-like or not Christ-like?

00:10:30.000 That's our prism.

00:10:31.000 They simply look at things through who's in power and is who not in power.

00:10:35.000 So therefore, the ultimate villain that they have concocted and created is honestly what you are looking at.

00:10:42.000 A white Anglo-Saxon Protestant, heterosexual, happily married man who is also has two kids, conservative and Christian.

00:10:50.000 Like, I am the villain, right? 0.84

00:10:54.000 And so, especially one that does not play around with their rubbish games of like taking a knee compulsory for your existence.

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00:12:01.000 Let me just take a time out.

00:12:03.000 If any pastor that you know cannot just tell you what I just told you in 90 seconds on cultural Marxism, they need to be lovingly confronted and rebuked by you.

00:12:12.000 And you have to stop giving money to that church because they have no idea what they're talking about.

00:12:17.000 Okay?

00:12:18.000 And I know this is like scant golf applause.

00:12:20.000 That explains all the problems.

00:12:22.000 No, because you're like, well, my pastor is really nice and really sweet.

00:12:25.000 Let me say that again.

00:12:26.000 They are not equipped for the spiritual warfare of what is coming through the doors of their church, of what is educating their future youth pastors, of what is educating the people that are coming in to go become saved.

00:12:36.000 They have to understand that.

00:12:37.000 So as a secondary, though, if white Anglo-Saxon Protestant men, and then by definition, you know, further all men are the problem, they've created their victim identity politic group, okay?

00:12:50.000 They have created the group that must be hated at all costs and pathologically.

00:12:56.000 So the men of the West have realized this over the last five years, and we've started To resist it, we started to resist it through social media.

00:13:03.000 We started to resist it through our advocacy.

00:13:05.000 And you see this with Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn and all these different channels that are ascendant.

00:13:10.000 And yes, we are resisting it through our votes.

00:13:14.000 In fact, 18 to 29-year-old men were the most dramatic move of any demographic into this last election cycle, more so than any other demographic.

00:13:23.000 They moved over 25 points in President Trump's direction.

00:13:27.000 And mind you, this is the takeaway point.

00:13:30.000 There was no like special super PAC dedicated to this.

00:13:33.000 There was no multi-billion dollar Koch brother-funded, ridiculous, we have to go reach out to the Hispanic Project dedicated to this. 0.56

00:13:40.000 There is no like, we need to start a new media company just for young men.

00:13:45.000 No, by the way, could you imagine saying that?

00:13:48.000 People would be like, no, what are you, a sexist?

00:13:51.000 No, instead, it was like Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA, and like a couple of our truth tellers, and it happened largely organically as a resetting and a rebalancing.

00:14:01.000 Sometimes we shouldn't fight God's design or nature, and we should look at imbalances in nature and just try to reconfigure it.

00:14:08.000 Like, oh, wait a second.

00:14:09.000 Like, instead of having this like crazy thing, yeah, the Hispanics are going to vote to us if we talk about amnesty. 1.00

00:14:14.000 That's so stupid. 1.00

00:14:15.000 Maybe it's like, I don't know, like let men be men. 1.00

00:14:17.000 Like it's a much easier sell.

00:14:18.000 Like just let nature come back into alignment with God's design.

00:14:21.000 Like that's a better political strategy than all these other like concocted corporate funded secular BS that we've lived through.

00:14:28.000 So we've seen the men of the West resist this.

00:14:32.000 They don't like taking orders from women. 1.00

00:14:33.000 They certainly do not like the totalitarian impulses that we've seen designed.

00:14:37.000 And even beyond that, this is where it becomes like, let's just say more controversial, but it's fine.

00:14:43.000 If the church is serious about reclaiming culture, again, this is where people are going to get a little uneasy, we must crush feminism at its core. 0.98

00:14:49.000 Feminism is a byproduct of the worst possible impulses. 1.00

00:14:53.000 And again, I'm not here to say you can't have female pastors. 0.99

00:14:56.000 I think Paul is great.

00:14:57.000 I'm not taking a theological position on that.

00:14:59.000 You guys can go debate that over coffee.

00:15:01.000 That's not interesting to me.

00:15:03.000 What is interesting to me is feminism. 1.00

00:15:05.000 Feminism is an outgrowth of this idea that first and foremost, that the woman must be liberated. 1.00

00:15:11.000 You guys should all agree, read the feminine mystique.

00:15:13.000 If you want to read the original anthem of where feminism came from, it is the feminine mystique by Gloria Steinman, where she literally was like, I am a prisoner in my home raising children. 1.00

00:15:26.000 And I must have my shackles released.

00:15:29.000 And I am going to be liberated from the prison of my home.

00:15:34.000 And by doing so, the world will become a better place.

00:15:37.000 And women will then go into the corporate career and we won't have to, you know, go just bear children and we'll be happier and we'll be like men and we'll be able to make good decisions.

00:15:49.000 Feminism is in the church, everybody. 1.00

00:15:52.000 And it is hard to find pastors that will tell the women of their church, don't actually go get a job and go pursue a career.

00:16:00.000 Go be a stay-at-home mom. 1.00

00:16:01.000 It's very hard to find.

00:16:03.000 And do you know what is ironic?

00:16:04.000 Is that the women actually want someone to say that? 1.00

00:16:07.000 What I find when I go to these campuses is there's millions of young women that are like, can someone please make it societally acceptable, but I don't have to go work in a fluorescently lit corporate office for 10 hours a day from some corporation that doesn't know my name to go put numbers in an Excel spreadsheet so that I can go work to the age of 32 to not find a boyfriend and have to go home to a bunch of cats. 1.00

00:16:29.000 Like, that's not appealing to me.

00:16:33.000 And yet, where is the church?

00:16:34.000 The church is like, well, I don't want to tell you to live your life.

00:16:37.000 The church exists to tell you how to live your life.

00:16:39.000 Like, what have we become?

00:16:41.000 Like, of course, the church exists to make moral statements.

00:16:45.000 And it's a biological fact.

00:16:46.000 If a woman is not married by the age, if she does not have children by the age of 30, there is a 50% chance she will not have kids at all.

00:16:53.000 I did not make that up.

00:16:55.000 And yet we have more unmarried women that are 32 than are married. 1.00

00:16:59.000 They have big apartments in Denver.

00:17:01.000 They have money. 0.89

00:17:02.000 They can go travel to Thailand, but they're miserable. 0.99

00:17:05.000 And that's not just me saying it.

00:17:07.000 It's not like Charlie Kirk is saying something that's not true.

00:17:09.000 It is a material empirical fact.

00:17:11.000 So if the church is serious about healing the sick and winning the culture, let's take a step back and say, who's suffering the most?

00:17:18.000 Yes, I get it.

00:17:19.000 We got to help the homeless and we got to feed the help the people that are infirmed, all that.

00:17:23.000 But societally, the most unhappy people in America are people that were raised in a Christian environment and thrust into a corporate world and believe the material secularist lie. 0.97

00:17:35.000 And by far, they're screaming to us in data after data, survey after survey, poll after poll, conversation after conversation.

00:17:43.000 I wish I could just go marry a man and be a mom as God designed it. 0.93

00:17:49.000 And for whatever reason, we're like really hesitant to say that because like, I don't know, like some Chardonnay wine mom's going to scream at the back of our church and like send an email?

00:17:58.000 Like, no, I have no kids.

00:18:01.000 I'm 46 and I'm happy.

00:18:02.000 I'm sure you got your life together, okay?

00:18:05.000 But the numbers are the numbers.

00:18:06.000 And we all know people that are suffering under this, okay?

00:18:09.000 And we should have compassion enough for them.

00:18:11.000 This is what drives me crazy.

00:18:12.000 People say, Charlie, how do we have compassion?

00:18:14.000 You have compassion by telling them the truth.

00:18:18.000 You get what you focus on.

00:18:19.000 And if you prioritize finding a mate, then you're going to find that.

00:18:23.000 And again, there are 28 to 30-year-old women that are all of a sudden doing TikTok videos, being like, wait a second, I'm 28 years old, and I want to date for a couple years and then be engaged for a year, and then I want to be married for a couple years and then have kids.

00:18:35.000 So I'll be 36 by the time I have kids.

00:18:37.000 And they're like, wait a second, maybe I should take more seriously getting married.

00:18:41.000 And here's where it's so perplexing.

00:18:43.000 Again, this is why feminism has driven this entire problem, which is like toxic to its core. 1.00

00:18:48.000 And I don't just mean third-wave feminism. 0.99

00:18:50.000 I mean feminism at its core is toxic because the most beautiful thing is a mom that stays at home and raises children. 1.00

00:18:57.000 The most blessed thing, the most godly thing, the most important thing, the most necessary thing.

00:19:02.000 And we as Christians have kind of gotten away from it.

00:19:05.000 We've kind of played into like, well, you can have it all type thing.

00:19:08.000 Okay, actually, you can have it all, but make sure you get the order right.

00:19:12.000 Have kids when you're 23, and then you can go back to college because college will still be there when you're 38, and go have a career in your 40s, and then you can actually go visit your kids in college and go to school alongside of them.

00:19:26.000 Instead, we fight nature, as is the modern way.

00:19:30.000 We're always at war with nature.

00:19:31.000 That's what secularists do because they don't accept God's design.

00:19:34.000 They're constantly fighting nature.

00:19:36.000 And they're like, no, no, no.

00:19:37.000 We're now going to do the most confounding thing.

00:19:40.000 We're going to say, yeah, I know you have this like prime window of fertility. 0.98

00:19:44.000 We don't care.

00:19:46.000 So for 12 years, when you are your most, like, you have the most energy and the most drive, we don't want to utilize that towards repopulating the species or raising godly kids, but instead to go sell shoes.

00:19:58.000 And how has that worked for us?

00:20:00.000 Exactly.

00:20:00.000 It's been a disaster.

00:20:01.000 So if you want to understand the male-female distinction, men are now going more conservative, they're going more to the church, but they won't go to your church if it's hyper-feminine.

00:20:09.000 I'll explain to what I mean that in a second.

00:20:11.000 And the young ladies will follow. 0.52

00:20:13.000 But it will only happen if A, there's more godly role models of women that honestly speak against this corporate nihilism that has infected young ladies' heads. 1.00

00:20:26.000 You know, one of the biggest lies being sold to American people right now is that you're in control of your money, especially when it comes to crypto.

00:20:32.000 But the truth, most of these so-called crypto platforms are just banks in disguise, fully capable of freezing your assets the moment some bureaucrat makes a phone call.

00:20:40.000 That is not what Bitcoin was built for.

00:20:43.000 That's why I use Bitcoin.com.

00:20:45.000 I just did a major transaction on it.

00:20:47.000 They offer a self-custodial wallet, which means you hold the keys.

00:20:51.000 You control your assets.

00:20:52.000 No one can touch your crypto, not the IRS or not a rogue bank, not some three-letter agency that thinks it knows better than you do.

00:21:00.000 This is how it was intended by the original creators of Bitcoin.

00:21:03.000 Peer-to-peer money, free from centralized control, free from surveillance, and free from arbitrary seizure.

00:21:09.000 So if you're serious about financial sovereignty, go to Bitcoin.com, set up your wallet, take back control, because if you don't hold the keys, you don't own your money.

00:21:16.000 Bitcoin.com, freedom starts here.

00:21:21.000 We need more women to say you have been lied to. 1.00

00:21:24.000 The liberation is actually slavery. 0.62

00:21:26.000 You are working for a company that hates you.

00:21:28.000 And go find a man who loves you that you could pour into.

00:21:31.000 We need more women to say that repeatedly. 1.00

00:21:32.000 They need to say it in the church.

00:21:34.000 And it's not happening.

00:21:36.000 I'm telling you right now, it might be happening at your local church.

00:21:39.000 We know the church very well.

00:21:40.000 It's like they dance around on this topic, right?

00:21:43.000 Instead, it's like, well, you know, if you want to go pursue a career, you are lying to that young lady and telling her that she has a 50% chance of not having kids if she prioritizes her career the first 12 years of her adult life.

00:21:54.000 I'm just being honest.

00:21:54.000 And they will say in survey after survey, I want kids more than anything else.

00:21:58.000 If that's what you want more than anything else, then why don't you go hunt it?

00:22:01.000 Because then they'll tell you, well, because everyone around me, including my pastor, my parents, my friends, and my neighbors, say, you must go get a good job.

00:22:07.000 You must go get a career.

00:22:10.000 And then we wonder why it's the most suicidal, alcohol-addicted, antidepressant-addicted generation in history, where 30-year-old women, more than half, either goes, and I'm not assailing this.

00:22:24.000 I'm saying it's a fact.

00:22:25.000 They either go see a psychologist, see a counselor, they're on bezodiazepans, they're on Zoloft, they're on Xanax.

00:22:31.000 And you wonder why they've declared all-out blitzkrieg on something God designed them by the age of 28, which is called the red alert.

00:22:39.000 You better have kids soon or else those eggs are going to run out. 1.00

00:22:43.000 And that might sound cruel or insensitive for a man to say from stage, but if you want to win the culture, there is a harvest out there that you can't believe to get back to the roots of how God designed us.

00:22:53.000 Because we are now at the late stage of modern feminism. 0.99

00:22:56.000 And of course, hilariously, and then we'll take some questions, at the latest stage of modern feminism, of course, is like the greatest thing for sex crazy young men on college campuses. 0.77

00:23:07.000 Which, of course, so again, premarital sex, unfortunately, we can't find many churches that speak out against premarital sex anymore. 0.82

00:23:14.000 It's a very like taboo thing.

00:23:15.000 You think you're going to lose people.

00:23:16.000 It's bizarre to me.

00:23:17.000 I speak about it all the time.

00:23:18.000 I think it's one of the original sins of our modern culture.

00:23:21.000 Again, it speaks to the abortion issue.

00:23:24.000 It speaks to the birth control issue.

00:23:25.000 It speaks to the sex is so different for men and women.

00:23:28.000 And so what happens is that women are said, hey, be just like men and go sleep with as many people as you can when you go to college. 1.00

00:23:35.000 Just like political incorrect segment, if you're sending your Christian son or daughter to a college, they're almost certainly having premarital sex. 0.97

00:23:41.000 I'm just telling you right now, you might think, not my son, not my daughter. 0.96

00:23:44.000 Yeah, you should check on that, okay?

00:23:46.000 And it's fine, but that's what happens when you go to college because they go to strip themselves of their morals to go be part of the world, not go.

00:23:52.000 And by the way, at the Christian schools, it's the worst. 0.99

00:23:54.000 Let me just say, oh my goodness, it's worse than even at the public schools.

00:23:57.000 And I won't say any names of any schools, of course.

00:24:01.000 And all that kind of nervous laughter should is, of course, because the church has radically failed with this.

00:24:06.000 Radically failed, okay?

00:24:08.000 Because why? 0.99

00:24:08.000 They go have premarital sex because they think if I get married at 22, I'm some sort of weirdo. 0.99

00:24:14.000 But I'm not a weirdo if I have premarital sex and I hide it because it's considered to be strange to get married too early.

00:24:20.000 Do you see how these incentive structures all of a sudden create bad behavior? 0.74

00:24:23.000 Okay, so for a sex crazy young man on a college campus, all he thinks about is sex and sports.

00:24:28.000 And Bitcoin, right? 0.96

00:24:29.000 That's all they think about, right?

00:24:31.000 Sex, sports, and Bitcoin.

00:24:32.000 That's all they think about.

00:24:33.000 And so they, but so it's this very simple supply and demand issue, okay?

00:24:39.000 And you could fix the supply, the supply and demand issue is very simple.

00:24:45.000 I know I got you on the Bitcoin one.

00:24:48.000 Which is this, which is that what is easier to fix?

00:24:53.000 A 19-year-old's desire to sleep with a lot of women, demand, or this newfound, awful phenomenon of young ladies giving their body to every man who wants it? 0.97

00:25:05.000 Which one is easier to fix?

00:25:07.000 Of course the supply is easier to fix, because it never used to be that way.

00:25:11.000 Now, of course, there were exceptions, but again, this is not just my own opinion.

00:25:15.000 Women's sexual partners have gone up from an average of one to two sexual partners before marriage to now 20 to 25.

00:25:22.000 And for Christians, it's 15 to 20. 0.95

00:25:24.000 Again, you guys got to get in touch with the youth and actually what's going on here, okay?

00:25:28.000 It's worse than you could ever imagine.

00:25:30.000 If you're not familiar, there's this girl on X or whatever.

00:25:34.000 She brags.

00:25:34.000 She had 1,000 sexual partners in a 24-hour period.

00:25:36.000 Not a joke, not an exaggeration.

00:25:37.000 Goes totally viral.

00:25:38.000 It's a real thing.

00:25:39.000 It's called a body count.

00:25:40.000 You don't know that phrase.

00:25:41.000 You should know that phrase.

00:25:42.000 Your pastors know that phrase.

00:25:43.000 They brag.

00:25:43.000 In fact, it's a thing that they talk about when they meet somebody.

00:25:45.000 What's your body count?

00:25:46.000 How many people have you slept with?

00:25:47.000 It is like a token of accomplishment, right?

00:25:50.000 50 is considered like beginner phase.

00:25:52.000 100 by the time you're a sophomore is like pretty good, right?

00:25:54.000 This is what happens on American college campuses.

00:25:58.000 So what is easier to fix?

00:26:00.000 Because feminism has given men what they've always wanted, which is like they don't have to work for sex, they don't have to do anything, they don't have to be impressive, they have to breathe. 0.99

00:26:10.000 And literally, they get the better end of the deal. 0.66

00:26:12.000 Where it's still holding them hostage, but you know, the real issue is that the women become like catastrophically screwed up because of this. 1.00

00:26:22.000 And I'm not saying that as a pejorative. 0.99

00:26:25.000 Sex for women is intimate. 0.99

00:26:27.000 It is emotional. 0.99

00:26:28.000 It is spiritual.

00:26:29.000 And it can and will be for men, but men, first and foremost, it is physical.

00:26:34.000 If a woman has five or more sexual partners by the time she goes into marriage, it's a 75% chance for divorce in the first five years. 0.98

00:26:43.000 It's almost like a one-to-one correlation.

00:26:45.000 And we all know, of course that makes sense, right?

00:26:47.000 Because there's so many irreconciled issues going into that marriage.

00:26:52.000 Because there's attachment.

00:26:53.000 By the way, there's literal bonds that are created.

00:26:55.000 So, again, I say this on these campuses, and again, this is where I really don't care.

00:27:00.000 If women stopped giving their bodies over so easily, it would fix so many of these problems. 1.00

00:27:06.000 Because then men would have to become more impressive, aka grow up, and stop being boys in order to get what they want.

00:27:12.000 They would have to shave and shower and stop doing drugs and stop watching porn and be more impressive because then they couldn't get the thing that they ultimately desire.

00:27:19.000 And so it creates actually a better society.

00:27:22.000 So the incentive structure is for a 19-year-old that wants that more than anything else, is I have to be extremely impressive to even get that girl's attention.

00:27:29.000 How it works today is the opposite, is that the girls are like, I'm going to make myself as easy and as open for men as possible because I'm told that is the ultimate liberation because saving myself was a form of captivity.

00:27:41.000 Do you see how crafty Satan has been in all this?

00:27:44.000 And by the way, these are dynamics that go all the way back to the garden.

00:27:47.000 It's nothing new.

00:27:47.000 It's just repurposed.

00:27:49.000 Honestly, if you want people to come to your church, be as blunt as I'm being right now.

00:27:52.000 I know that might like, you know, oh, what do you mean by that?

00:27:55.000 It's like so much political correctness has come into the church.

00:27:57.000 So many pastors are afraid that they're going to lose people and lose their congregations.

00:28:02.000 And I say this, like how many Christian ministries that you guys know on college campuses are drawing 5,000 kids at a 12 p.m. at a random college campus with a couple days' notice?

00:28:12.000 I don't know a lot of them, actually.

00:28:14.000 And the reason being is they're starving for truth.

00:28:17.000 They're starving for an alternative perspective because they see the degeneracy all around them.

00:28:22.000 They've seen the collapsing of society and they know something is wrong and they don't exactly know what it is.

00:28:29.000 And to be perfectly honest with you, the church is missing the greatest revival that has been given to them in the history of the church ever.

00:28:37.000 Young men say, Charlie, I have to drive two hours to go find a church that I respect.

00:28:42.000 So that's the final point.

00:28:43.000 If you want to bring young men into your church, what is it?

00:28:45.000 Very simple.

00:28:46.000 Young men need to be told what to do. 0.73

00:28:49.000 Not hard.

00:28:50.000 And they need to be challenged.

00:28:51.000 They need to be prodded.

00:28:52.000 They need to be said, you are not enough.

00:28:54.000 That's the whole self-esteem thing, which is hyper-feminine.

00:28:57.000 Oh, you're perfect the way you are.

00:28:58.000 First of all, if you're perfect the way you are, why do you need Jesus whole things so insane, right? 0.97

00:29:03.000 Instead, it should be, actually, you're a mess.

00:29:06.000 You want to win over young men? 0.99

00:29:08.000 Say that they're a mess.

00:29:09.000 Like, you have a lot of work to do.

00:29:11.000 I'll say, like, what do you mean?

00:29:12.000 They're like, you're watching porn for two hours a day.

00:29:14.000 You're doing way too many drugs.

00:29:16.000 Like, you have no money in your bank account.

00:29:18.000 How about you start acting like a man and not a boy and do these things?

00:29:21.000 All of a sudden, they'll like, okay.

00:29:23.000 I'll go on that hero's journey.

00:29:25.000 That's the story of Abraham.

00:29:26.000 He was living in his father's basement until he was like 110.

00:29:31.000 I think it was like 92.

00:29:32.000 You guys could fact-check me, right?

00:29:35.000 The call to adventure is what these young men want.

00:29:39.000 I do not, I will allow Christian women filled with faith in the Holy Spirit to figure out how to communicate to the young women thing. 0.99

00:29:47.000 I think I know, but I'm not a woman, so I can't profess that.

00:29:50.000 I know I know how to talk to young men, and I know how to get them motivated to do something.

00:29:54.000 And it's not go follow your dreams or satisfy your impulses.

00:29:58.000 It's not indulge in your flesh.

00:30:00.000 It's not like make yourself feel good.

00:30:02.000 It's that grow up.

00:30:05.000 Do something more challenging.

00:30:07.000 And we've seen precursors of this, haven't we?

00:30:09.000 Why was Jordan Peterson so popular?

00:30:11.000 Why is Joe Rogan so popular?

00:30:13.000 But no one's actually yet done it through that biblical perspective to lead them ultimately to Christ.

00:30:19.000 They are asking for this.

00:30:21.000 And the church right now is really uncertain of how to approach it because they're afraid of offending too many people to get to the ultimate harvest.

00:30:29.000 More young men that I know of are converting to Catholicism than Protestantism.

00:30:34.000 Why?

00:30:34.000 Because there's a lot of rules in Catholicism.

00:30:36.000 There's a lot of rigidity.

00:30:38.000 There's a lot of order.

00:30:40.000 There's a lot of oughts and ought nots.

00:30:42.000 A lot of Protestant churches, honestly, it's like a lot of Jesus loves you.

00:30:47.000 It's not going to cut it for a 19-year-old boy that wants a military boot camp manual for life that wants to be able to go on an adventure.

00:30:56.000 So the question is, will the church embrace it?

00:30:59.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:31:00.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:31:03.000 Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - July 05, 2025

If Feminism Rotting Away at the Church?

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