The Charlie Kirk Show - Igniting the New Great Awakening—LIVE from House Church in Seattle

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00:00:13.000 No advertisers at all in this robust discussion and speech that I gave at the House Church in Snohomish, Washington.

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00:01:09.000 My speech at Pastor DJ's Church, the House Church in Snohomish, Washington.

00:01:13.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:01:14.000 Here we go.

00:01:15.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:01:16.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.

00:01:18.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:01:22.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:01:25.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:01:26.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:01:27.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:01:29.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:01:36.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:44.000 That's why we are here.

00:01:48.000 So, DJ, you're a good man.

00:01:50.000 Thank you for opening up this wonderful church.

00:01:52.000 Seriously, thank you.

00:01:55.000 And I really don't have...

00:01:58.000 Thank you.

00:01:59.000 Look, I knew we were going to be in Seattle today.

00:02:03.000 We had it on our calendar for quite some time.

00:02:05.000 And, you know, look, Pastor Roger is a very sweet man, and it's tough when the left comes after you.

00:02:10.000 It's tough when they say they're going to burn your neighborhoods down and burn your homes down.

00:02:14.000 And I really, I feel for him deeply, truly.

00:02:17.000 And I sent out the video I did, and I don't want to hear any nonsense about going after Pastor Roger because he's a good man.

00:02:25.000 And until you guys have to deal with that in that neighborhood, and we're used to it at turning point, I would have handled things a little bit differently because of my opinion, when a terrorist comes to your door, you don't negotiate with terrorists.

00:02:38.000 And so somebody who listened to our podcast or follows us got us connected to this wonderful church.

00:02:46.000 And I said, I don't care if I have to fly out 40 armed guards.

00:02:50.000 I don't care if I have to.

00:02:52.000 We're going to go send a message to Antifa that we are gathering and we are open and we're not going to take it.

00:03:00.000 That this idea of mob justice, that if you go into the streets with weapons anonymously, that you can somehow dictate the terms of engagement in our country.

00:03:15.000 That is something I'm not going to put up with.

00:03:18.000 Because look, this is a deeper trend in our country, which is that we used to be a country and it's slipping out of our hands in a very, very troubling way of law and order, of rules, of the government coming to your defense when you want to worship your creator or have a guest speaker.

00:03:39.000 But now, if you get enough thugs in the streets or just the threat of that, then all of a sudden you can shut up a speaker and restrict an assembly from happening.

00:03:49.000 And so it's just terrific to be here.

00:03:51.000 So for those of you that follow us and what we do, thank you for that.

00:03:56.000 We do a couple different things.

00:03:58.000 Our podcast, our radio show, and also the most important thing that we do at Turning Point USA.

00:04:03.000 Love the poster.

00:04:05.000 We are the nation's largest pro-American student movement on high school and college campuses across the country.

00:04:16.000 And if you want to talk about doing missionary work in America, go to college campuses.

00:04:24.000 I mean, that is...

00:04:25.000 That is as difficult as it gets as you can imagine.

00:04:28.000 But no, we're having a lot of fun.

00:04:30.000 We play offense.

00:04:32.000 That's our mindset.

00:04:33.000 So everything we do at Turning Point USA is not just trying to manage the decline of America.

00:04:38.000 It's not just trying to manage eroding terrain.

00:04:41.000 Instead, it's, hey, why are we not taking terrain?

00:04:44.000 Why are we not saying, let's go to college campuses and spread truth?

00:04:47.000 That's the mindset I have.

00:04:49.000 And that's kind of why I'm here in the greater Seattle area.

00:04:52.000 You're not supposed to be here as a conservative, right?

00:04:54.000 It's a lost cause.

00:04:56.000 But look, I know this because I spent a lot of time amongst California believers and conservatives.

00:04:56.000 Don't do it.

00:05:03.000 There's a lot of similarities, which is that I will go anywhere there are truth tellers and people that have courage that want to stand for their beliefs.

00:05:11.000 I don't care about the political outcome.

00:05:13.000 Those things will change.

00:05:14.000 You want to know how things will never change when you shut up and you just give up on a city or a community.

00:05:19.000 We're going to talk about that because we as believers, and let me just even go a step back.

00:05:24.000 I talk about my faith openly.

00:05:26.000 Not everyone is aware of it, but my faith is my most important thing in my life.

00:05:31.000 And for those of you that are not yet, have not yet given your life to Jesus Christ.

00:05:34.000 I hope I can give you a compelling reason to do that today.

00:05:37.000 And it's the most important thing that any human being can do.

00:05:44.000 I did it in fifth grade.

00:05:46.000 And every year, every day almost, it means more than it did yesterday.

00:05:51.000 This idea of unearned grace, a gift that has been given to you, made in God's image.

00:05:57.000 And so, but we as believers, we have to understand that since we have the truth, then what do we do with it?

00:06:03.000 So there's a couple competing philosophies and theories that have been happening in Christianity over the last year.

00:06:10.000 One of them is, hey, we have the truth, but we're now going to become a YouTube channel.

00:06:15.000 Close the church, and they can go watch us on some live stream.

00:06:21.000 Now, I think for a couple weeks, that was the right move.

00:06:24.000 We didn't know what we were dealing with.

00:06:25.000 Was this going to wipe out half of our population?

00:06:27.000 Was this going to destroy everything?

00:06:29.000 But after a month and two months, I think this church and many other churches across the country made the right decision to fully reopen because church is not just essential, it's the most essential thing in our country.

00:06:48.000 And there are other churches that believed, hey, we're just going to continue to do the live stream thing.

00:06:55.000 But it says in the Bible very clearly to never forsake the gathering of believers.

00:07:00.000 There's something special when people gather in person.

00:07:02.000 I've become a technology skeptic over the last year.

00:07:06.000 In fact, I think those phones are largely destroying our humanity.

00:07:09.000 And I could go into that if there's interest.

00:07:11.000 But seriously, I think that, you know, when I was eight years old, my parents did something that young kids have no idea what this is.

00:07:20.000 They said, go outside and play.

00:07:24.000 And then we use something called our imagination.

00:07:28.000 And when I go into a restaurant and I see a family of six and everyone's staring at their screens, I say, I'm not exactly sure how to articulate it, but that's just bad for people.

00:07:40.000 It's bad for our country.

00:07:41.000 It's bad for the soul.

00:07:42.000 It's bad for the spirit.

00:07:43.000 Because when I went out to eat when I was eight years old, at the very least, my parents would give me a piece of paper to draw on.

00:07:49.000 That was like the limitation of keeping me at bay.

00:07:53.000 If not, I had to look someone in the eye and have a conversation.

00:07:55.000 Now it's just put the screen in front of them. 0.66

00:07:57.000 That'll keep them busy for the next 30 minutes and then maybe give them a snack.

00:08:00.000 So, anyway, I've become a technology skeptic over the last year, and I think the church should as well.

00:08:06.000 I think there's something to be said when the church just voluntarily shut down its doors in most parts of the country, this church obviously being an exception to that.

00:08:15.000 And we saw a rise in mental health issues, drug usage, alcoholism, and all these other just unspeakable tragedies that have just increased.

00:08:26.000 So, we have to ask ourselves the question: what is the church?

00:08:29.000 And that's a question that we really haven't had to ask our entire life because we've always taken it for granted.

00:08:33.000 The church is not a building, obviously.

00:08:37.000 A church can happen in a building.

00:08:39.000 But church is also not just streaming in a message for 60 minutes and then closing it.

00:08:44.000 Churches, as it says very clearly in the scriptures, it actually uses a word called ecclesia.

00:08:49.000 It's a Greek word.

00:08:50.000 We're going to explore that together.

00:08:52.000 But church is community, it's relationships, it's friendships, it's where the spirit moves.

00:08:57.000 Because what's happened here today, after I'm done speaking, someone here has been wanting to go to talk to someone in this room for quite some time.

00:09:05.000 And maybe that person is hurting.

00:09:07.000 Maybe they need counseling, maybe they need reconciliation.

00:09:10.000 If you just become a YouTube live stream, you lose that for almost an entire year.

00:09:15.000 Church is more than just a Facebook group, it's more than a text chain.

00:09:18.000 It's being around other human beings.

00:09:20.000 And after the last year, I believe it more than ever before: that the people that wish to shut down and shut up the church, they want us to become a TED Talk on YouTube.

00:09:28.000 And we can never let that happen again.

00:09:31.000 The church can never close again.

00:09:37.000 And so, beyond an open church, what else is a church?

00:09:41.000 Well, let's go to what the scriptures say.

00:09:43.000 And just so you know, where I come from, I believe in the inerrancy of scripture.

00:09:48.000 I believe in the triune God.

00:09:50.000 I believe in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

00:09:54.000 And I don't get into eschatology.

00:09:56.000 I don't get in that.

00:09:57.000 There's people that do that that are theologians that are much more sophisticated than I am.

00:10:01.000 I believe the Nicene Creed.

00:10:02.000 That's my starting point.

00:10:04.000 And then you guys can debate all the rest.

00:10:06.000 And I think that's a very agreeable position in American Christianity because I see these pastors like, I don't talk to that pastor.

00:10:13.000 Why?

00:10:13.000 Well, because he doesn't have the same interpretation of 1 Thessalonians 5:12.

00:10:16.000 Is that like, really? 1.00

00:10:18.000 Maybe you're right.

00:10:19.000 Maybe he's right.

00:10:20.000 How about this?

00:10:21.000 You probably are 99% on the same page, and maybe the enemy wants to divide you guys from actually having common purpose.

00:10:29.000 And now we're going to talk about what that common purpose might be.

00:10:31.000 So it says in the scriptures, Jesus Christ brought up his disciples to the Caesarea Philippi, the mouth of the Jordan River.

00:10:38.000 And he says, Who do men say that I am?

00:10:40.000 And it's his famous dialogue.

00:10:42.000 I believe it's Matthew 28.

00:10:44.000 I might be misremembering, but it's this beautiful back and forth.

00:10:47.000 And eventually it gets to this place where we say it in English, on this rock, build my church, right?

00:10:55.000 Well, that word is actually a lot more complicated in the original Koine Greek.

00:11:00.000 It's a word called ecclesia.

00:11:02.000 Now, the original translation, they brought it to church, but what was an ecclesia?

00:11:07.000 An ecclesia was a political gathering that used to happen in ancient Greece, where the citizens of a local community used to fast and pray and come and gather for the welfare of the city around them.

00:11:19.000 And there were two words that were the big unifying principles around an ecclesia: Eleutheria and isonomia, which are the Greek words for freedom and equality.

00:11:28.000 I wonder what country has those two words as unifying principles.

00:11:32.000 And so this idea of what is the church, not every pastor agrees with this, and I'm happy to go toe-to-toe with all of them in my very limited understanding of the scriptures to actually read the scriptures.

00:11:44.000 Is the church should not just not be afraid, but should be actively involved in the moral, civic, and political issues of the day.

00:11:53.000 The church should lean in on these issues.

00:11:57.000 Now, some pastors say, we don't do that.

00:12:01.000 We just preach the gospel.

00:12:03.000 Well, I believe the gospel too.

00:12:04.000 I also know the most important thing you can do in your life is give your life to Jesus Christ.

00:12:09.000 The second most important thing you can do, which we don't ever talk about, is making sure you can do the first thing.

00:12:16.000 Right?

00:12:17.000 You can't do it, then we're all going to be sharing the gospel from prison.

00:12:20.000 And I am not exaggerating.

00:12:21.000 That is a predictable pattern of despots, tyrants, and dictators over the last hundred years. 0.81

00:12:27.000 Just talk to a Soviet dissident.

00:12:29.000 Go read Billy Graham's sermons in the 1950s when he visited the Soviet Union, when Christianity was clamped down upon.

00:12:35.000 And so for some pastors that say, we don't do politics, you know, it's too messy, it's not clear.

00:12:41.000 First of all, that's not true.

00:12:42.000 And I'm going to give you some scriptural evidence to show you that's not true.

00:12:44.000 What they're really saying is one of two things.

00:12:47.000 I don't want to offend my congregation.

00:12:50.000 My congregation is not worth it, is what they're saying.

00:12:53.000 My congregation is not worth the truth, what the scriptures say about these sorts of issues.

00:12:57.000 I would rather do the altar call, do the gospel, build bigger buildings, get higher budgets, and do more baptisms.

00:13:05.000 I love all those things.

00:13:06.000 But it says very clearly to make disciples, not converts of all nations.

00:13:10.000 Discipleship is hard.

00:13:12.000 And discipleship, by the way, is comprehensive.

00:13:15.000 And I got to credit American Christianity.

00:13:18.000 They've been really, really good at financial counseling ministries.

00:13:20.000 Love Dave Ramsey.

00:13:22.000 Really good at marriage ministries.

00:13:24.000 Good at drug reconciliation ministries.

00:13:26.000 But they don't talk about the one thing that you guys think about at least once a week and probably daily.

00:13:31.000 How do I make sense of what's going on in the news?

00:13:33.000 What does the scripture say about this?

00:13:35.000 And if the pastor's like, hey, we don't do that.

00:13:37.000 Well, then basically they're saying their church doesn't offer clarity where you might be a little confused.

00:13:43.000 They're saying basically, we as pastors, we as the church, we're just going to kind of take a neutral position.

00:13:48.000 Go figure it out yourselves.

00:13:49.000 When the scriptures say quite a lot.

00:13:51.000 And so here's the very basic belief that I have for us Christians, that we should seek to influence all things for God's purpose.

00:13:59.000 Music, art, schooling, education, yes, politics and government, for God's purpose.

00:14:04.000 Now, some people say, well, the scriptures don't ever mention anything like that.

00:14:07.000 Well, it's just not true.

00:14:09.000 All throughout the Old Testament, people that we view as heroes, Daniel, Esther, Mordecai, Jeremiah, Nehemiah, Joseph, they all influenced secular government for God's purpose.

00:14:18.000 They went after government, and they were the counselor to the king.

00:14:21.000 Remember that phrase, it's very important.

00:14:23.000 They were the communicator of God's purpose to secular government to try to effectuate positive change in the region or the land of which they are in.

00:14:32.000 And so let's think of that phrase counselor to the king.

00:14:34.000 This is on the founding fathers mentioned time and time again.

00:14:36.000 Founding fathers were Bible-believing people.

00:14:38.000 Do not believe anything else you say and any sort of the nonsense or the drivel that you read in popular culture.

00:14:44.000 The founding fathers were prayerful and moral people.

00:14:46.000 John Adams said it very clearly, our second president, the Constitution was written solely for a moral and religious people.

00:14:53.000 It is wholly inadequate to the people of any other.

00:14:56.000 He goes on to say that liberty is only possible when you, the people, know how to deal with that liberty.

00:15:03.000 Think about it.

00:15:04.000 You could screw it up in like 10 years.

00:15:06.000 Because if you do not have the rules for yourself, the rules for your children, soon liberty will be less about the pursuit of virtue and more about chasing pleasure.

00:15:16.000 Give me a check, the next joint.

00:15:19.000 I'll stay up to 2 o'clock in the morning, you know, recklessly doing whatever you know that's not good for you.

00:15:25.000 So liberty is a very hard thing.

00:15:27.000 In fact, that's why what we're living in in our country, the short experiment in self-governance with liberty, is so rare.

00:15:34.000 The normal way for human beings to live is to be dominated by another and being taken care of.

00:15:40.000 And I could prove it to you in the scriptures. 0.93

00:15:42.000 So Moses frees God's chosen people out of Egypt.

00:15:45.000 They were all slaves, not easily won freedom, right?

00:15:49.000 God had to intervene pretty dramatically to win freedom for the Israelites.

00:15:55.000 Basically, half the book of Exodus.

00:15:57.000 So they're in the wilderness, and they're starting to get a little bit antsy.

00:16:02.000 Their regular human nature starts to kick in.

00:16:05.000 Remember, we believe human nature, it's written into our DNA, original sin.

00:16:10.000 It's into our nature that we are fallen, separated from God.

00:16:13.000 That's why we need Jesus Christ.

00:16:14.000 The secularists, the leftists that run our country, they believe human nature is naturally good and society is bad.

00:16:21.000 And anything that's bad is a byproduct of society.

00:16:25.000 capitalism, private property, whatever it might be.

00:16:27.000 So their human nature kicks in and they go to Moses and they say, hey, we're not happy.

00:16:32.000 We're here in the wilderness.

00:16:33.000 So then they cry out to God and they say, we don't know who this Moses guy is, totally forgetting what he did for them.

00:16:40.000 But take us back to Egypt because we ate better there.

00:16:43.000 At least we had meat.

00:16:45.000 You could look it up yourselves in the scriptures.

00:16:45.000 Could you not?

00:16:47.000 What they're saying is, we prefer comfortable slavery.

00:16:51.000 Take us back to Egypt where we will work, but at least we'll be well fed.

00:16:56.000 Because this in the wilderness, taking care of ourselves thing, no, this is too hard.

00:17:01.000 That's not for us.

00:17:03.000 And you've seen that replicate time and time again.

00:17:06.000 So without a moral order, which is then why Moses got the uploaded moral app of the Ten Commandments, which is six commandments, us in the relationship of God, four between each other, is without those wise restraints, you will not be able to stay free.

00:17:22.000 So all throughout the Old Testament and the New Testament, there's story after story of people of God being the counselor to the kings.

00:17:31.000 The founding father said, look, insofar the church remains active and Christians remain vocal, they will be the counselor to the king.

00:17:40.000 They'll be the one rising up, organizing their communities, running for office. 0.98

00:17:45.000 They're the ones that are going to keep the constitutional republic in check.

00:17:48.000 And this has worked till now.

00:17:52.000 We don't teach this history to our children because we've decided to allow our secularists, leftists, run our entire government education system, which it was up for me, I'd abolish the Department of Education like yesterday.

00:18:02.000 It's a complete and total disaster.

00:18:08.000 We were just talking about this, DJ, which is the Black Robe Regimen, probably one of the most important stories in American history that we do not teach our children about, which is activist pastors before the founding of our country.

00:18:22.000 George Whitfield, Jonathan Edwards, Roger Williams, speaking clearly of the scriptures.

00:18:28.000 And they caught the attention of one very, very wise man who is wrongly described as a deist, one of my favorite American founders.

00:18:36.000 I wouldn't say he's a Bible-believing Christian, but I have my suspicions that he was.

00:18:40.000 We just don't have documentation of it, it's Benjamin Franklin.

00:18:44.000 I'm a big Benjamin Franklin fan.

00:18:46.000 And not every historian, I think, gives him credit that he deserves.

00:18:50.000 He wrote long, long essays on the need for virtue.

00:18:54.000 And he was captivated by the Billy Graham of his time.

00:18:58.000 This guy by the name of George Whitfield.

00:19:00.000 So he started following him around.

00:19:02.000 And this guy had a booming voice.

00:19:03.000 How many sermons do you think you've given?

00:19:05.000 5,000, 10,000?

00:19:07.000 He gave 25,000 sermons back in colonial times about microphones.

00:19:11.000 Think about that.

00:19:12.000 25,000 sermons up and down the eastern seaboard for 15 years in the 1740s, 1750s, 1760s.

00:19:20.000 And his message was very clear.

00:19:22.000 That there's a God who loves you.

00:19:24.000 Liberty is God's idea, not man's idea.

00:19:27.000 Start demanding it.

00:19:28.000 Of course, all of a sudden you start saying that for 20 years, people are going to start believing it.

00:19:32.000 And Benjamin Franklin started to show up.

00:19:34.000 He said, oh my gosh, this guy, he's sowing the seeds for an American revolution.

00:19:38.000 He said, this guy is starting to get people to think differently about the form of government.

00:19:42.000 That King George is far less important, but God is really the important part of a governmental structure.

00:19:48.000 They were wrestling with these ideas that we take so for granted.

00:19:52.000 We just kind of walk around and we act, we complain like, oh, we hate the police and climate change is going to kill us all.

00:19:58.000 First of all, a bunch of nonsense.

00:19:58.000 You understand?

00:20:01.000 It is.

00:20:02.000 Happy to get into that if that's something that's interested, I guess.

00:20:07.000 We have it so good.

00:20:08.000 We've been given such a gift.

00:20:10.000 Of course, we have problems and we should fix them and we could talk about that.

00:20:13.000 But the founders designed a system that would fall apart if pastors did not rise up.

00:20:20.000 So there's been four great awakenings in our country.

00:20:22.000 Some historians say five great awakenings.

00:20:24.000 I would say there's four.

00:20:25.000 So the first was the one that founded America.

00:20:28.000 So Edmund Burke, the father of conservatism, who was a British member of parliament, he wrote from afar.

00:20:36.000 He actually told the king, King George, don't get involved in the American Revolution.

00:20:39.000 You're going to lose.

00:20:41.000 He's a conservative, an Irish-English member of parliament, who told King George, don't do this.

00:20:47.000 These guys want it more than we do because these are Protestant, Bible-believing, liberty-loving people, and the world's never seen anything like this.

00:20:57.000 They will sacrifice greatly.

00:20:58.000 They will run up hills.

00:21:00.000 Like, we've got basically a Prussian mercenary force.

00:21:04.000 And they're going to preserve their own, and they're not going to fight as hard as we are.

00:21:08.000 King George obviously didn't listen, right?

00:21:10.000 And we ended up winning the war.

00:21:12.000 But what he was getting at is that there was a special kind of a citizen that was kind of formed because of the Bible-believing ethic that led into it.

00:21:20.000 Second Great Awakening happened in the 1815s to 1820s.

00:21:25.000 America almost fell backwards, didn't really get to the place that it did because of an alcoholism crisis and a moral crisis that happened in the 1850s, 1820s.

00:21:37.000 Activist pastors rose up and caught America from falling.

00:21:40.000 You guys have all done that trust fall before, where you just kind of, that's been America time and time again.

00:21:46.000 That trust fall.

00:21:47.000 In free fall, and the pastors caught it, the church caught it and brought it right back into its position.

00:21:52.000 The third great awakening, which I believe was the second inflection of America, the first inflection was the founding.

00:21:58.000 The second inflection was the slavery crisis in our country.

00:22:01.000 Now, let me be very clear about this.

00:22:03.000 America was founded on freedom, not on slavery.

00:22:06.000 The year after the Declaration of Independence, now I'm going to give you some facts, and even some conservatives are afraid to talk about this because they just don't know the history, and that's fine because they don't teach it anywhere.

00:22:16.000 A year after the Declaration of Independence, Vermont independently abolished slavery.

00:22:22.000 In the original draft of the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson, in his own handwriting, said slavery is an unspeakable sin, and we blame King George for bringing slaves to our country.

00:22:31.000 Northwest Territories, not Seattle.

00:22:33.000 The Northwest Territories back then was Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Iowa.

00:22:39.000 This is the new first sovereign piece of land that was brought in front of George Washington as president.

00:22:44.000 And they said these will be free territories, not slave territories.

00:22:48.000 Now, if we were founded on slavery, why is that the biggest land expansion in American history was a free territory, not a slave territory?

00:22:56.000 It's because the founding fathers were working to decouple and eliminate a centuries-old sin, and they said the least we can do is make these new territories free, not slave. 0.69

00:23:07.000 If it was in the DNA of America, then those would have been all slave territories all the time.

00:23:11.000 Of course not.

00:23:12.000 Now, there was the presence of slavery in America, but the only reason the founding fathers put up with it was because they believed that if there was a union without southern states, they would never be able to defend themselves against a French or a British invasion.

00:23:26.000 It was never about an apology of slavery.

00:23:29.000 You read the writings of Benjamin Flankin, even the slave owner himself, Thomas Jefferson, who freed slaves throughout his lifetime, testified in front of the Virginia, the Virginia Assembly, the Virginia House of Commons, to abolish slavery.

00:23:41.000 And then Thomas Jefferson, on one of his first acts as president, as the third American president, signed a moratorium of no new slaves coming into the United States.

00:23:49.000 Now, this fact pattern, I could go on, right?

00:23:51.000 There's about 500 different little facts like this, is almost completely absent from our public dialogue and discourse.

00:23:57.000 It's a lot more nuanced that says, oh, slavery existed, therefore everyone that was there must have endorsed it.

00:24:04.000 And that's a sloppy, in fact, pathological view of history.

00:24:07.000 Only someone that has a desired outcome could believe something like that.

00:24:11.000 It wasn't until John C. Calhoun, who was the vice president for Andrew Jackson and John Quincy Adams, did the idea of slavery get back into the public discourse of something that was worthy of defending.

00:24:21.000 I think he was a true villain of American history, John C. Calhoun, who wrongly misinterpreted the scriptures.

00:24:27.000 We've never seen that happen before.

00:24:29.000 Just read 1 Peter, right?

00:24:30.000 Talks all about beware of false prophets for a very satanic purpose, of which is one person owning another person.

00:24:37.000 It wasn't until John C. Calhoun did that start to actually regain traction.

00:24:41.000 The founding fathers generation was almost in full agreement that if we are serious, we have to have clauses to end this sin of slavery.

00:24:49.000 And then John C. Calhoun brought it back to the top.

00:24:52.000 But then the second, the third great awakening was pastors who rose up in a little schoolhouse in Ripon, Wisconsin, and they founded a political party based on one idea, which was abolishing slavery.

00:25:03.000 One idea.

00:25:05.000 It's called the Republican Party.

00:25:07.000 That was it.

00:25:08.000 They found it was a one-party.

00:25:12.000 I'm trying here, DJ.

00:25:13.000 No, it's okay.

00:25:16.000 One-issue party.

00:25:17.000 That was it. 0.99

00:25:19.000 And we obviously fought a bitter civil war.

00:25:23.000 There's a lot that happened after that.

00:25:26.000 But the Republican Party was the party that looked at people not based on skin color, but based on values and character.

00:25:35.000 Sound familiar?

00:25:37.000 Actually, carrying.

00:25:38.000 I'm happy to go.

00:25:38.000 Handheld.

00:25:41.000 Is it driving you crazy, DJ?

00:25:42.000 That would be driving me nice.

00:25:44.000 That's better.

00:25:45.000 Well, hello.

00:25:47.000 Okay, that's fine.

00:25:48.000 Sorry, guys.

00:25:49.000 And the Republican Party was formed on this idea.

00:25:54.000 And in the Dred Scott decision, which I'm sure a lot of you learn about that, seven of the justices who voted to uphold the unspeakable sin of slavery, all seven were Democrats.

00:26:05.000 The two dissenters were Republicans.

00:26:07.000 The first ever movie to be screened in the White House was a disgustingly racist movie called Birth of a Nation, which was screened by Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat, in the White House.

00:26:20.000 Nathan Bedford Forrest, the founder of the KKK, was a Democrat.

00:26:23.000 Anyway, I'm not trying to overly politicize anything.

00:26:25.000 I'm literally just talking history.

00:26:26.000 Everything I've just said is historically true.

00:26:28.000 No, seriously, everything I said is a historical fact.

00:26:32.000 So you guys can draw your own conclusions of whether or not it's applicable now.

00:26:36.000 So then there is the fourth great awakening, which might be the one I think that applies to us the best.

00:26:44.000 And every single person in this room had your life touched by Billy Graham.

00:26:48.000 Every single person.

00:26:50.000 Billy Graham had a way to speak the gospel in a cheerful, charismatic, public way that just motivated and captured a nation.

00:26:59.000 But what a lot of people don't know about Billy Graham is that 1954 to 1955 and 1956, the number one topic that he spoke on was what he called Satan's religion, communism.

00:27:12.000 Billy Graham was the most outspoken anti-communist the church had ever seen in American history.

00:27:18.000 The man that every Christian says, I got nothing bad to say about him.

00:27:23.000 That's the one where even the woke pastors, they're like, we like Billy Graham, right?

00:27:23.000 Right?

00:27:28.000 Even the guy, you know, you know what I'm talking about. 0.59

00:27:30.000 The big BLM flags, look how good of people we are, right?

00:27:33.000 Those types of people.

00:27:34.000 Even they have good things to say about Billy Graham.

00:27:36.000 Well, Billy Graham, the man who brought millions to Christ and changed the fabric of the country forever, he spoke out on moral and political issues.

00:27:46.000 So that was the fourth great awakening.

00:27:48.000 Right after World War II, peace and prosperity, all of a sudden, America started to have a need for a moral and spiritual reawakening.

00:27:58.000 But that was only made possible because there was a political attempt to take over the country by the communists in the 1950s.

00:28:04.000 And Billy Graham was largely responsible for stopping that.

00:28:07.000 So now here we are in 2021.

00:28:09.000 We are living on the coattails of the greatest generation.

00:28:12.000 Let me say that again.

00:28:13.000 We are living on the coattails of the latest generation.

00:28:16.000 And their sacrifice for us, it's about running out.

00:28:19.000 It's been about 70 years of peace, prosperity, and relative constitutional freedom.

00:28:25.000 We're losing it year by year, but we still have this little glimpse of it.

00:28:29.000 So the question is, now we are here in 2021.

00:28:32.000 What does the left not completely control?

00:28:36.000 They control our educational system, our corporations, our sports, our beverage companies, our airlines, city councils, Congress, the presidency, the bureaucracies, Hollywood, film and media, social media, graphic designers, whatever, they control it.

00:28:51.000 There's only one thing, and it's the thing they want the most.

00:28:54.000 It's the thing they're spending billions of dollars to try to take over.

00:28:57.000 That has always been more powerful than any other institution, and that is the church, everybody.

00:29:11.000 So what does that look like?

00:29:14.000 It's their greatest fear.

00:29:15.000 That's why they're always talking about it.

00:29:17.000 You can't say anything as a pastor about politics.

00:29:19.000 That's just not true, by the way.

00:29:20.000 It's just not true.

00:29:22.000 Yeah, DJ said, whoops.

00:29:25.000 Or you're going to lose your congregation.

00:29:27.000 Not true.

00:29:29.000 How many people here today, this is not your home church?

00:29:31.000 Anyone raise your hand?

00:29:32.000 That's pretty awesome, right?

00:29:34.000 That's pretty cool.

00:29:38.000 And in the most unusual way, talking about cultural, civic, and political issues is drawing people into the church.

00:29:46.000 It's drawing people to find that kind of moral clarity.

00:29:50.000 And if the church does decide to get its proper role in our country as counselor to the king in that fifth grade awakening, all of a sudden all these other problems are going to start to fix themselves.

00:30:02.000 The moral decline, the institutions that we say, why don't we control them anymore?

00:30:06.000 It's because the church has been silent.

00:30:09.000 It's because the left, they've been doing ecclesia.

00:30:13.000 They've been doing the public square.

00:30:15.000 They've been running for school boards.

00:30:16.000 They've been educating kids.

00:30:18.000 They've been building these massive mega corporations.

00:30:21.000 And quite honestly, American Christianity, and I say this with all possible due respect to amazing pastors, we've been trying to be part of the dominant culture, not speaking truth against the culture.

00:30:34.000 And this is the greatest untapped resource in the country and for the kingdom, by the way, is that, you know, I get a lot of youth ministers.

00:30:45.000 They say, Charlie, so many of my kids, you know, they're on fire for the Lord when they're 16 or 17, and then they go to college and they become atheists.

00:30:53.000 And I say, well, did you ever talk politics to your youth group?

00:30:56.000 They say, oh, no, we stayed away from that.

00:30:58.000 I said, well, then you're not talking about the religion that they're going to convert to.

00:31:03.000 They're going to go convert to secular humanism.

00:31:05.000 Now, if a youth pastor says, you know, we bring young people to the Lord, I love that.

00:31:10.000 Trust me.

00:31:10.000 I needed that when I was in fifth grade.

00:31:12.000 I needed it when I was 15.

00:31:14.000 I needed it still to this day.

00:31:16.000 But I also asked my pastor once, hey, what do we make about capitalism versus socialism?

00:31:22.000 What does the scripture say about economics?

00:31:25.000 His answer was nothing.

00:31:26.000 We just do the gospel.

00:31:27.000 First of all, this is not true.

00:31:28.000 Scripture has a lot to say about economics.

00:31:30.000 For example, socialism violates two out of the ten commandments.

00:31:34.000 Thou shalt not covet and thou shalt not steal.

00:31:36.000 It's pretty simple.

00:31:46.000 But what I'm getting at is, I saw so many young people that gave their life to the Lord that are still trying.

00:31:52.000 I'm trying to my best to get them back there because they come in contact with a highly persuasive, emotionally driven religion of leftism.

00:32:03.000 And if they do not have any understanding of how their faith and the word comes in contact with the daily news, Or if they can't answer the why questions, it will be so fragile, it will shatter after one semester at University of Washington or Washington State University or wherever.

00:32:21.000 University of Oregon, UC Berkeley, whatever.

00:32:24.000 And let's just say not every kid succumbs to that, but plenty do.

00:32:29.000 I'm sure you've seen that happen.

00:32:30.000 The number one complaint I get from youth pastors is, Charlie, we have these amazing numbers and they come back when they're 20 and we don't know what happened.

00:32:39.000 And it's because young people need to know how their faith interacts with something that they are getting pushed forward every single day on social media, the mass movements, all these things.

00:32:50.000 What does the Bible say about race relations?

00:32:53.000 Well, it says very clearly that skin color is really irrelevant to the Lord.

00:32:56.000 It says clearly that we are all one in Jesus Christ.

00:32:59.000 Neither slave nor Greek nor Jew.

00:33:01.000 We are all one in Jesus Christ.

00:33:02.000 That's what the scriptures have to say.

00:33:04.000 It says very clearly.

00:33:08.000 Someone said, Charlie, nowhere in the scriptures, that's a really big statement, by the way.

00:33:14.000 There's a lot of text there, okay?

00:33:16.000 And this one, nowhere is what someone recently told me.

00:33:20.000 Does it say that we have to go and get involved in politics?

00:33:24.000 I say, well, how do you deal with Jeremiah 29?

00:33:27.000 This is why I love the founding fathers, by the way.

00:33:29.000 They put Leviticus on the Liberty Bell.

00:33:32.000 Like, I mean, again, you could put Proverbs or Psalms, Leviticus, these guys knew their Bible, okay?

00:33:37.000 Leviticus.

00:33:39.000 Let liberty proclaim of which in the land of which you are in.

00:33:42.000 Like those guys, awesome.

00:33:43.000 Like, I mean, if it was Proverbs, fine.

00:33:45.000 Like, that's the cheat sheet, right?

00:33:47.000 John, I get it.

00:33:48.000 Leviticus, winners.

00:33:50.000 That's all I have to say, right?

00:33:56.000 Jeremiah is close to that.

00:33:58.000 It's like Habakkuk and then Jeremiah.

00:34:00.000 Okay.

00:34:01.000 Seek the welfare of the city where I sent you and pray to the Lord on its behalf.

00:34:08.000 For in the city's welfare, you will find your own welfare.

00:34:13.000 So this is what we call a timeless and eternal biblical truth.

00:34:16.000 Let's go through this together.

00:34:17.000 This one verse.

00:34:18.000 Seek the Hebrew word badrash, which means desire, demand.

00:34:24.000 It's a heavy word, demand. 0.99

00:34:25.000 Have Christians demanded a lot? 0.98

00:34:27.000 No. 0.82

00:34:28.000 No, we just kind of, we're just spectators.

00:34:31.000 You know, we're here till Jesus zaps us up and house is on fire and it's coming next Thursday, right?

00:34:40.000 Not my, that is not, I'll let you guys figure that one out.

00:34:44.000 Which I always loved, and I have some of my greatest friends are really into the eschatology stuff.

00:34:49.000 And again, I do not know the deep theology enough to comment on it.

00:34:53.000 But I always joke around.

00:34:54.000 I say, wait, if the house is on fire and we got to get the kids out, why don't you put out the fire?

00:34:58.000 Like, I don't know.

00:35:00.000 It's a metaphor that everything's terrible.

00:35:02.000 We got to get the kids that get them saved and then we're all going to get zapped up.

00:35:05.000 I said, well, why don't you improve the condition of what's around you?

00:35:08.000 Anyway, badrash, demand, desire.

00:35:10.000 The welfare.

00:35:11.000 This is a word that we know, shalom or shalem, peace.

00:35:15.000 Seattle been peaceful the last year.

00:35:21.000 The city, now that's a fill-in, which could be nation, community, county, where I sent you into exile, where I sent you.

00:35:30.000 And pray to the Lord on its behalf.

00:35:32.000 So you should be praying actively for the shalom.

00:35:35.000 That's the first part of it, right?

00:35:36.000 Is to pray actively.

00:35:38.000 But then, this is the best part.

00:35:40.000 And I want you to think about this.

00:35:42.000 For in the welfare of where you live, right, the shalom, your welfare is tied to what happens in the city.

00:35:52.000 Think about that.

00:35:53.000 That what the Lord is saying in Jeremiah is if you just are indifferent to the condition of what happens around you, then your own welfare, your own ability to get in contact with your creator or to worship your creator will be impacted.

00:36:08.000 We know this to be true, obviously. 0.94

00:36:09.000 Look at the Soviet Union. 0.76

00:36:11.000 Look at Cuba.

00:36:13.000 If you're just indifferent, you allow totalitarianism to run amok, then your ability to worship your creator can very much get interrupted.

00:36:20.000 In fact, it will.

00:36:21.000 And that's where I want to end this part of our talk, which is a little bit of a call to action, which is the people that control basically everything, they are obsessed with you.

00:36:35.000 They are.

00:36:36.000 It always comes back to shutting down the church, but not the abortion factory, shutting down the church, but not the cannabis dispensary.

00:36:43.000 Why?

00:36:44.000 There's a reason why Stalin and Lenin, they didn't shut down all the churches at first.

00:36:52.000 They shut down the disagreeable churches.

00:36:55.000 They wanted an obedient church.

00:36:58.000 They wanted a church they could control.

00:37:01.000 Because this idea of worship bothers anyone who wants to have a totalitarian state.

00:37:08.000 Because when you're here worshiping the Lord or you're hearing a wonderful message, what you're really saying, whether you realize it or not, is that my connection to my Creator matters more than Governor Inslee.

00:37:52.000 And this comes with a promise.

00:37:56.000 It comes with a promise many times in James and in Matthew's, which is that if you decide to take that bold step of inviting Jesus into your life and giving your life to Jesus, it comes with a promise of persecution.

00:38:10.000 It does.

00:38:10.000 Now, this is the least, this is the less popular part of the speech, but it's the true part, which some of us are built for a moment like this, right?

00:38:20.000 Where it's like, hey, bring it on.

00:38:25.000 And now, let me just say, as lovingly as I can, I've seen a lot of different pastors from across the country give the bring it on speech for the last decade.

00:38:34.000 And then when it was brought on, they folded like a cheapsuit.

00:38:38.000 No, seriously.

00:38:39.000 The Lord tested his church this last year, didn't he?

00:38:43.000 He said, all right, you've been, I always get a chuckle.

00:38:45.000 There's one pastor, I'm not going to say his name.

00:38:47.000 He gives this speech every year.

00:38:49.000 And it's this very dramatic sermon on Daniel.

00:38:54.000 And I love the story of Daniel.

00:38:56.000 It's phenomenal.

00:38:57.000 And parts are very easily understood.

00:38:59.000 Parts are interpreting dreams.

00:39:00.000 But one part in Daniel, I think Daniel 6, is when Daniel intentionally defies the order of the king.

00:39:07.000 When the king says, you are not allowed to pray or worship God.

00:39:12.000 And if you do, you're going to go to prison.

00:39:13.000 So what does Daniel do?

00:39:14.000 He goes to his, I guess you could call it an apartment.

00:39:19.000 That's not his house, I guess you could say.

00:39:20.000 And he opens up the window basically towards the city for everyone to see him worshiping saying, come arrest me.

00:39:27.000 So this pastor would say, let us have, this was like January of last year.

00:39:31.000 Let us have our Daniel moment.

00:39:32.000 Have them come and take us.

00:39:33.000 And they have been closed ever since.

00:39:35.000 Let me tell you.

00:39:36.000 Now, I say that because words should correlate with action.

00:39:44.000 And for those of us that are believers, actual believers, we believe there is a heaven.

00:39:51.000 It's a real place like Cincinnati in Colorado.

00:39:54.000 It's a real place, not an idea, not an abstract.

00:39:58.000 It is a place we are going to.

00:39:59.000 I want you to think about that.

00:40:01.000 That's a very serious truth.

00:40:03.000 And it's forever.

00:40:04.000 It's infinity.

00:40:05.000 It's not 100 years, not 1,000 years.

00:40:08.000 Then if we act prayerfully and in Christ-like way, fear is not of the Lord then.

00:40:15.000 It's not.

00:40:16.000 It says 365 times throughout the scriptures, one for every single day, do not be afraid.

00:40:22.000 Now, why would God have to keep on repeating it?

00:40:24.000 It says it in Joshua 1, like four times in nine verses.

00:40:28.000 Like, be strong and courageous.

00:40:30.000 Got it.

00:40:30.000 No, no, actually be strong and courageous.

00:40:32.000 No, please, Joshua 1, 9.

00:40:32.000 I got it.

00:40:34.000 You literally got to be strong and courageous.

00:40:37.000 It's because fear is not of the Lord.

00:40:40.000 But if you're experiencing a little bit fear, God knew that you were going to have to have that comfort.

00:40:47.000 Because we all go through that.

00:40:49.000 Of course we do.

00:40:50.000 And fear is that little bit in the ear.

00:40:52.000 Hey, you might lose membership.

00:40:55.000 You might lose tithes.

00:40:57.000 You might get a really bad Facebook post from somebody.

00:41:03.000 Whatever.

00:41:04.000 You're going to get a bad article written about you.

00:41:08.000 But it says very clearly in James 1 to pray for wisdom.

00:41:12.000 God doesn't just give it, gives it generously.

00:41:12.000 And what?

00:41:17.000 That's an amazing thing to say.

00:41:18.000 A generous gift from our Creator?

00:41:20.000 We should run into that.

00:41:23.000 Now, what is wisdom?

00:41:25.000 That's a good question.

00:41:26.000 Wisdom is knowledge of things that never change.

00:41:30.000 There's practical knowledge and eternal knowledge.

00:41:32.000 So practical knowledge is the governor of Washington is Inslee for now.

00:41:39.000 Eternal knowledge is people in power always try to assume more control for themselves and don't want to be held accountable.

00:41:49.000 That's an eternal truth, regardless of who the governor is.

00:41:53.000 So the Lord gives eternal knowledge to his people when we ask.

00:41:59.000 And we have an entire book on wisdom, Proverbs.

00:42:02.000 A lot of the Bible is built on this type of wisdom.

00:42:05.000 And colleges have no wisdom.

00:42:07.000 Because where does wisdom actually come from?

00:42:10.000 It says it very clearly.

00:42:11.000 It says it in Leviticus.

00:42:12.000 It says it in Proverbs over and over again, which is, the fear of the Lord is the beginning of all wisdom.

00:42:18.000 In college, there's no God, therefore there's no wisdom.

00:42:28.000 And so, what does that mean for those of us that want to see a change in our nation?

00:42:34.000 Because boy, do we need it?

00:42:36.000 It means that we as Christians have to take an active posture.

00:42:41.000 And that's hard for us.

00:42:42.000 That means we've got to start running for office, become precinct committee people.

00:42:46.000 This means you got to take the education of your children really seriously.

00:42:49.000 It means that if this is not your home church, you got to lovingly go get a meeting with your senior pastor and ask them to explain Jeremiah 29, 7.

00:42:58.000 And say, why are we not seeking the welfare of the peace, the shalom of our city right now?

00:43:03.000 Why are we not seeking leaders that are biblical?

00:43:06.000 As it says in 1 Timothy, pray for those in authority so you might live quiet and peaceable lives.

00:43:10.000 One of the last things that Paul ever wrote before he was reversed, upside down crucified, must have been pretty important when he said that to young Timothy.

00:43:20.000 That's a call to action for a lot of you that might go to church close here or far away from here.

00:43:24.000 Because this whole beautiful gift we've been given, this Constitutional Republic, it's going to fall apart if churches don't rise up and if Christians don't rise up. 0.66

00:43:34.000 And I'll close with this and we'll do some questions, if that's okay, which is, they know this. 0.95

00:43:42.000 They're the most paranoid people I've ever been around.

00:43:44.000 It's true.

00:43:46.000 Have you ever seen such unhappy winners as the people in charge?

00:43:50.000 They're the angriest winners I've ever seen in my life.

00:43:54.000 They're always angry.

00:43:56.000 I said winners, whatever.

00:43:59.000 You guys can fill it in.

00:44:01.000 Which is, they're worried, and they know this.

00:44:04.000 This is why they're preemptively striking, that people that don't share their values, that have been quiet and decent, are all of a sudden going to say, you know what?

00:44:13.000 The Lord is going to judge nations, says that in the Bible.

00:44:17.000 That you're going to be judged based on how much you have been given, parable to talents, that I am going to contest.

00:44:24.000 I'm going to get into that public square for the first time in my life.

00:44:27.000 I'm going to do something to push for the moral good.

00:44:30.000 And maybe I don't know how to do that, but that's where I'm the how guy, okay?

00:44:34.000 I will give you a list of ways.

00:44:35.000 It's my full-time job.

00:44:37.000 And this is why I've spoken to over 60 churches over the last year.

00:44:40.000 This is why I wanted to add another reason, just as many churches and believers I can get in front of.

00:44:45.000 Because we don't have enough believers in the fight right now.

00:44:48.000 We don't.

00:44:50.000 We have a lot of secular conservatives.

00:44:53.000 God bless them, that are fighting for your right to worship.

00:44:57.000 I want you to think about that.

00:44:58.000 Secular conservatives that don't know the Lord that are fighting harder than you are to make sure that the churches can be open.

00:45:04.000 I don't mean it that way.

00:45:04.000 Maybe you are fighting harder.

00:45:05.000 But I'm saying that there are believers out there that have been on the sidelines.

00:45:08.000 So this is the call to action.

00:45:10.000 This is the time to get into it.

00:45:12.000 And I'm telling you right now, if we do that, we are going to win.

00:45:17.000 All right, let's do some questions, okay?

00:45:19.000 Very good.

00:45:22.000 Charlie, thank you for coming.

00:45:23.000 Big fan, listening to your podcast.

00:45:25.000 Hey, this is going to be an easy question for you.

00:45:27.000 I'm a senior pastor of a church in Marysville, and we did not close.

00:45:32.000 Thank you.

00:45:32.000 God bless you.

00:45:37.000 But as a lead guy, I can show you appreciate the responsibilities I have to take care of day by day.

00:45:43.000 Do you have a short list of cliff notes of sources that I can go to that I could trust or any pastor could trust for information?

00:45:52.000 And besides, I want to give you a gift to this book my son wrote.

00:45:55.000 He's a sergeant in the U.S. Army and it's a dystopian.

00:46:00.000 Thank him for his service.

00:46:01.000 So we'll give that to him.

00:46:10.000 Thank you.

00:46:11.000 So we're actually developing that right now.

00:46:14.000 We're kind of trying to create a Sermon Central for sermons that deal with the public square, kind of a resource database for pastors in particular on every single one of these issues.

00:46:26.000 And so I'd love to stay in touch with you and help provide that.

00:46:29.000 And that's a piece of feedback we receive a lot as pastors say, hey, Charlie, I want to speak out, but I need the information and I need the resources to be able to do that.

00:46:39.000 And we'd be happy to help supply that for you.

00:46:41.000 So thank you.

00:46:42.000 Okay.

00:46:43.000 Sure.

00:46:44.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:46:45.000 So I'm Mac Martin.

00:46:47.000 Stanwood is about 20 to 30 miles from here, and I founded our Stanwood Activism Hub for Turning Point.

00:46:52.000 Thank you.

00:46:53.000 God bless you.

00:46:53.000 I'm the president.

00:46:54.000 And then to my right is our chapter vice president.

00:47:00.000 I'm the president, and then this is our chapter treasurer.

00:47:02.000 So we're very excited to see you.

00:47:04.000 So my question is, who should we as Christians and conservatives get behind in 2024?

00:47:09.000 That's a great question.

00:47:09.000 So it's very early, obviously.

00:47:14.000 So still too young, okay?

00:47:23.000 No.

00:47:24.000 Look, our first focus politically, you know, and I just want to reinforce this and thank you for your leadership at Turning Point.

00:47:32.000 Turning point, you say, we're a 501c3.

00:47:33.000 Our political arm, Turning Point Action, deals with political and social welfare.

00:47:38.000 But those of us that want to see Republicans take leadership, and I'll say this on the personal basis, we need to do very well in 2022.

00:47:46.000 We do.

00:47:47.000 And that needs to be the first thing that we have to focus on.

00:47:49.000 Now, before we even get to that, though, we got to fix the way we do elections in our country.

00:48:01.000 And happy to dive into what that looks like.

00:48:05.000 And whether it be voter ID and ending voting month in our country where you, I know that in Washington, you guys have basically universal mail and voting at this point, which is you guys have seen what happens.

00:48:18.000 And this should be a warning sign for other states to not do universal mail and voting.

00:48:24.000 And I don't know the details of Washington.

00:48:26.000 I know Oregon quite well because I've spent a lot of time there.

00:48:29.000 And I'm guessing it's very similar where it's bail.

00:48:33.000 Are you allowed to ballot harvest here?

00:48:35.000 I'm guessing you are allowed to ballot harvest.

00:48:37.000 No, some states you aren't, so I just, I don't want to assume.

00:48:40.000 That's a disaster.

00:48:41.000 Ballot harvesting should not be allowed.

00:48:44.000 And it lends itself to paid full-time union organizers that can go collect ballots and disenfranchise other people where their full-time job is not political activism.

00:48:54.000 Okay, it lends itself to whatever party has a well-oiled political infrastructure.

00:48:58.000 Now, with that being said, the biggest issue, though, out of all the issues even beyond that is the voter registration rolls.

00:49:06.000 This is the thing that no one ever wants to talk about, but it matters the most, which is when someone moves, when someone passes away, when someone no longer is registered to vote, whatever.

00:49:15.000 You need to clean the voting rolls.

00:49:17.000 Now, this can actually get done even in states like this through lawsuits.

00:49:23.000 It's very hard.

00:49:24.000 It's very expensive.

00:49:25.000 You'll probably still lose in the Ninth Circuit for obvious reasons.

00:49:29.000 But there's been some progress made even in the Ninth Circuit in Los Angeles where they got like 18, not 1,800, I think 180,000 dead people removed off the rolls, which, by the way, and that was in LA County, which helped make a small difference in some of these races that Republicans won congressional seats in.

00:49:46.000 And so when you start cleaning the rolls, all of a sudden universal mail and voting, it becomes harder because that's the list that they're coming after, going after.

00:49:55.000 Now, you asked me specifically about 2024.

00:49:58.000 Now, some people want Trump to run.

00:50:00.000 Some people really don't want Trump to run.

00:50:01.000 Some people love Ron DeSantis.

00:50:03.000 Some people, which seems to be a fan favorite.

00:50:05.000 Here's the thing.

00:50:06.000 Let me tell you, things change a lot.

00:50:09.000 And you remember back in 2016, we thought it was going to be John Kasich or Rand Paul or Jeb Bush.

00:50:16.000 And then a man came down the escalator and everything changed for good, right?

00:50:21.000 And so let me say this, which is it's more about what the candidate believes, number one, and whether or not they have courage.

00:50:34.000 This is a very important, those are the two things I care about most.

00:50:37.000 And I wouldn't have said that five years ago.

00:50:39.000 The more I've studied, the more I've dug deep into this, I really don't care if you're a businessman or even if you're a lifelong politician, which is very rare for them to have these type of qualities.

00:50:49.000 I care more about, no, seriously, I care, do you believe the right things?

00:50:54.000 Do you want to stop the erosion of American manufacturing?

00:50:58.000 Do you think that we should put our citizens first?

00:51:00.000 Do you think that the church is essential?

00:51:02.000 Do you think that the Second Amendment is a non-negotiable right in the United States Constitution?

00:51:09.000 And so that's the first thing.

00:51:13.000 Then, but this is the second thing.

00:51:15.000 You might believe all the right things, but if you don't have courage, then all of a sudden those beliefs just wither away.

00:51:22.000 And so I'm not going to get into names because we're far too early.

00:51:26.000 I do like Ron DeSantis a lot because he has proven in Florida.

00:51:30.000 Just to give you an idea of what Ron DeSantis has done, no vaccine passports.

00:51:34.000 Critical race theory will no longer be taught in schools in Florida.

00:51:38.000 They're a constitutional carry state.

00:51:40.000 They passed an anti-rioting bill that if you come out of state into the state of Florida, that you could be locked up for nearly 10 years.

00:51:48.000 They are going after the tech companies for discriminating against conservatives.

00:51:53.000 They're the first major state to open their businesses.

00:51:56.000 They never went after one church in the state of Florida for opening up.

00:52:01.000 And not to mention, Ron DeSantis has one of the booming economy.

00:52:05.000 Their unemployment rate, I think, is half of what it is here in the state of Washington.

00:52:09.000 I think you guys are near six or seven or eight percent.

00:52:11.000 I could be wrong.

00:52:12.000 Florida's 3.8%.

00:52:15.000 And yet, Florida has a lower virus death rate, a lower hospitalization rate, and less kids with mental health problems, alcoholism, and drug usage than the top 10, the top 10 lockdown states of a moving average of those together, which is Washington, is Oregon, is California.

00:52:31.000 So if you aggregate the top 10 lockdown states and you find their virus rate, their hospitalization rate, and their death rate, Florida beats the moving average of those 10 lockdown states.

00:52:40.000 Because the lockdowns actually did the opposite.

00:52:43.000 Let me prove it to you.

00:52:44.000 One very quick example.

00:52:45.000 So Florida opens up their restaurants fully on May 20th.

00:52:48.000 The pundits and the writers say people are going to get slaughtered in the streets because of this.

00:52:53.000 It's going to be a massacre.

00:52:54.000 You know how they talk.

00:52:55.000 This is what they said, right?

00:52:56.000 But when you think about it, this is a logic.

00:52:59.000 Ron DeSantis is a very logical person, and he has courage to act on his logic, right?

00:53:02.000 He says, wait a second, people are going to meet with other human beings.

00:53:06.000 Pretty fair thing to say.

00:53:08.000 That we are social creatures.

00:53:09.000 So do I want them to meet in a restaurant where they go every other table with the windows open?

00:53:15.000 Or do I want them all crammed into a home?

00:53:18.000 What's better to stop the spread of the virus?

00:53:20.000 So in California, people kept on meeting in people's homes with bad ventilation.

00:53:25.000 So that's why the ones that lock down they continue to see rates that go up, where many of the social gatherings in Florida happened in areas with open windows, in places and businesses that took that very seriously.

00:53:36.000 What am I getting at here?

00:53:37.000 This promise that you're going to be kept safe by the government actually did the opposite.

00:53:41.000 It actually incentivized bad behavior to have you get closer to people to get up close to them as quickly.

00:53:48.000 And by the way, I'm a full believer in acting with responsibility like something that we've decided to lose in our country.

00:53:54.000 But that I don't know who's going to come on the scene, but I think Ron DeSantis, again, it's very early and he could, you know, he could fizzle out or whatever.

00:54:04.000 And I know Ron very well.

00:54:05.000 But I think we have to think of ourselves: let's get out of the personality contest and say, are they going to fight for the issues and the values I believe in?

00:54:12.000 And will they have courage?

00:54:14.000 Those are the two things that matter the most.

00:54:24.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:54:25.000 I'm so excited to see you.

00:54:26.000 I live in King County, which is Seattle area.

00:54:34.000 And unfortunately, I have a church, love the church, great Bible teaching church, but they're making us wear masks.

00:54:42.000 Now, I don't because I have CSAL, which is common sense and liberty.

00:54:50.000 I love that.

00:54:51.000 That is good.

00:54:52.000 That is very good.

00:54:53.000 And I'm not sure.

00:54:54.000 I was like, CSAL, I've never heard of that before.

00:54:56.000 It sounds like a very serious condition.

00:54:58.000 More people.

00:54:59.000 Oh, it is.

00:55:01.000 And unfortunately, not as many people have it that should, and it is contagious.

00:55:06.000 So I'm hoping everybody here walks away having CSAL.

00:55:12.000 Anyway, my question is: how, actually, my friend is telling me to ask you this.

00:55:19.000 We love Jesus.

00:55:21.000 We love our church.

00:55:22.000 But we're looked at as rebels.

00:55:25.000 And This is a great question because I'm guessing they use Romans 13, but yeah, no.

00:55:33.000 And I want to talk about it.

00:55:35.000 It's very important. 1.00

00:55:36.000 Christians don't know how to deal with it. 1.00

00:55:36.000 Yes. 1.00

00:55:37.000 But yeah.

00:55:38.000 Yes.

00:55:39.000 And I'm not.

00:55:41.000 Well, I guess I am a rebel in a little bit.

00:55:45.000 But I also want to do what is right.

00:55:49.000 And it's making it difficult.

00:55:51.000 How, what would be your advice?

00:55:54.000 Still honoring God, but standing up.

00:55:56.000 I mean, I'm done with all this.

00:55:58.000 I don't wear a mask anywhere.

00:56:00.000 And I have gotten in a lot of trouble.

00:56:03.000 Yeah, and I.

00:56:04.000 But I just smile.

00:56:05.000 So.

00:56:06.000 Well, because they can see your smile.

00:56:08.000 That's why you smile.

00:56:09.000 So not wearing a mask.

00:56:12.000 Okay, let me start with Romans 13, because this is something a lot of pastors talk about quite often.

00:56:17.000 And so I actually was just talking to Wayne Grudem, who's one of the top Bible scholars and theologians about Romans 13, because it's often quoted, but very rarely misunderstood.

00:56:29.000 Basically, Romans 13, and I'm going to paraphrase, says, submit to the rulers in authority, right?

00:56:34.000 Because they are anointed by God for your good.

00:56:38.000 So that's a very interesting verse, especially if you look at it from an American standpoint.

00:56:43.000 So who's in charge in America?

00:56:46.000 Well, God is in charge, but who's the sovereign?

00:56:48.000 Let me be more particular.

00:56:49.000 The people are.

00:56:50.000 Yeah.

00:56:51.000 Well, the people.

00:56:52.000 That's right.

00:56:53.000 And so, and so it's a very, whomever is in charge is not the sovereign in our country.

00:57:00.000 So Inslee or Biden, that's actually not the ruler.

00:57:04.000 If you take it from a, if you look at Romans 13 through a correct political standpoint, now, from a Chinese example, I'm happy to go through that as well because they don't have the same constitution, but we're not talking about that.

00:57:16.000 And so these pastors say, no, we must submit to those people in authority.

00:57:21.000 Well, the sovereign is the authority.

00:57:24.000 And so if the sovereign's natural rights given to you by God are violated, then the people we put are violating our rights and they're in violation of Romans 13.

00:57:36.000 We're not in violation of Romans 13.

00:57:39.000 Now, let me build that out even further, which is, God said that they are put in for your good.

00:57:46.000 Now, this is a very complicated thing.

00:57:49.000 It's not complicated.

00:57:50.000 It can get very heavy because what is good governance?

00:57:54.000 Well, it's pretty easy to see when that starts to get abused.

00:57:59.000 But never did Paul ever say an absolute in any of his writings whatsoever that we should embrace or love tyranny, which is a Greek word tyrannos, which is the ownership or the mastery of one another.

00:58:12.000 Instead, he used this Greek, I can't remember the Greek word, ruler, which even if you look at it from an outside of United States constitutional standpoint, let's say Chinese, is that if they are no longer allowing you to peaceably assemble or to worship the Creator, they have violated what Romans 13 is all about. 0.73

00:58:29.000 I only say this because it is the most quoted verse of an enact of church. 0.77

00:58:34.000 Would you agree with that, Pastor?

00:58:35.000 Would you agree with that, DJ?

00:58:37.000 All the time.

00:58:38.000 Now, insofar about you wearing a mask at your church.

00:58:41.000 So Jesus Christ was 100% grace and 100% truth.

00:58:47.000 So I will tell you, you have to pray about this, but do not seek conflict.

00:58:54.000 It's a very important thing.

00:58:55.000 I do not seek conflict.

00:58:56.000 It just happens to always come to my door.

00:58:58.000 It's true.

00:59:00.000 No, it's just, that's true.

00:59:02.000 I don't.

00:59:03.000 Blessed are the peacemakers.

00:59:05.000 However, it also says very clearly in the scriptures that, and you look, you could go throughout that there are times for conflict, there's times for struggle, and that you should stand for truth when that does come for you.

00:59:18.000 So you have to pray about it.

00:59:21.000 I wouldn't try to make a scene, but I would also ask for a private meeting and say, wait a second, what is it about the mandatory mass?

00:59:29.000 Does it make you feel good or does it do good?

00:59:32.000 These are two different things.

00:59:34.000 And let me just say, as an aside with the masks, it is child abuse to make a child wear a mask.

00:59:39.000 Let me be very clear.

00:59:40.000 It is child abuse to make a child wear a mask.

00:59:47.000 The media can't stand when I say that, so I just lead with that.

00:59:51.000 Look.

00:59:53.000 And look, let me be very clear.

00:59:54.000 I am a mask agnostic, which means agnosis without knowledge.

00:59:59.000 I am not an epidemiologist, nor is Dr. Anthony Fauci.

01:00:02.000 He's a political hack.

01:00:04.000 Okay?

01:00:05.000 And so I tend to yield to people's own agency and decisions.

01:00:12.000 So your church, in my opinion, should make it optional.

01:00:16.000 There are some people in this room wearing masks.

01:00:18.000 I'm not going to ridicule you.

01:00:20.000 I'm not going to say you're wrong.

01:00:22.000 Maybe you have a condition or you know that that mask is going to work in a way that will help you.

01:00:27.000 That's the sort of humility our leaders should have and the people in charge.

01:00:32.000 But instead, when you mandate the mask, it's the opposite.

01:00:36.000 It's saying, no, I know exactly and precisely what's best for you.

01:00:40.000 And there are plenty of examples where the mask has the opposite intended effect.

01:00:45.000 And there are studies that show that.

01:00:46.000 And there's studies that can show that under certain circumstances, it can be helpful.

01:00:50.000 That's why I'm saying, go look at the studies.

01:00:53.000 Do your own research.

01:00:55.000 I personally cannot stand them, and I speak out against it all the time.

01:01:00.000 And I'll also say this: if there's another, just more sociological point when it comes to the masks outside of epidemiology.

01:01:06.000 And by the way, that's always just one, that always should only be one of many factors when we make a decision.

01:01:12.000 Epidemiology is a factor.

01:01:14.000 But is it not, should it be the only factor?

01:01:16.000 How about this?

01:01:17.000 Human beings deserve to be able to see one another.

01:01:20.000 I think that the more masked we are, the more foreign we are to one another.

01:01:24.000 The more masked we are, the more nasty we are.

01:01:27.000 The less likely to have compassion and love.

01:01:29.000 More likely to seek grace and mercy, to ask people how their day is going.

01:01:34.000 I think it's more likely to make us cold and distant.

01:01:37.000 And so that's a sociological question, but I think that I can make an argument that the more we indulge in the masks at all times, it makes it harder to be a good Christian.

01:01:46.000 It makes it harder for us to go heal those that are broken and minister those that need to hear about Christ.

01:01:52.000 And God gave us a face for a reason. 0.94

01:01:54.000 And this is the one thing that really, really bothers me: is that I went around the country five or six years ago speaking out publicly against the mandatory hijab in the Middle East. 0.91

01:02:04.000 Because I said it was dehumanizing to women to make them wear a hijab. 0.99

01:02:09.000 Because God gave them a face for a reason. 0.99

01:02:12.000 And if you're going to mandate that, there's something wrong with that.

01:02:15.000 And for whatever reason, we kind of lost that intensity of that argument in the last couple months, all under this guise of public safety and health.

01:02:22.000 What I just presented to you was a mature, nuanced position.

01:02:27.000 It wasn't one way or the other, but this kind of position is given no such platform, unfortunately, in so many places in our country.

01:02:35.000 And so I would continue to push forward and don't give them a reason, just some advice, to stylistically be able to critique you.

01:02:44.000 Don't raise your voice.

01:02:45.000 Be charming and loving.

01:02:46.000 Make them see the smile because you're not going to be wearing a mask.

01:02:49.000 And just ask these sorts of questions.

01:02:51.000 I think it's really important.

01:02:53.000 And then, just on a more societal thing, I think a lot of this is about social conditioning to see if they can get an entire population to sit down and obey and do what they're told.

01:03:03.000 Thank you very much.

01:03:10.000 Thank you for being here.

01:03:12.000 Oh, good.

01:03:12.000 Is that on?

01:03:13.000 Thanks for being here, Charlie.

01:03:14.000 I wanted to ask a question, which actually is in part an answer to the pastor from Marysville having to do with resources.

01:03:24.000 Two that I think are a great resource are Patriot Academy and Wall Builders.

01:03:31.000 David Barton's really great.

01:03:32.000 David, yeah, and so is his son, Tim.

01:03:34.000 He's terrific.

01:03:35.000 Yeah.

01:03:35.000 And what I wanted to ask you is how well, how close are you to the Bartons as well as Rick Green of Patriot Academy?

01:03:44.000 Are you collaborating with them at all in terms of putting together the resources that you're going to be developing?

01:03:51.000 So I'm close with the Bartons.

01:03:52.000 Not yet, Rick Green, but you're the third person that's mentioned him in the last couple of weeks.

01:03:57.000 The Bartons are great.

01:03:58.000 I spoke at one of their events in the fall.

01:03:59.000 And man, does that guy know U.S. history?

01:04:01.000 I'll tell you what.

01:04:03.000 He's forgotten more about U.S. history than I'll ever know.

01:04:06.000 But no, I think you're exactly right.

01:04:08.000 And I want to say one other resource too.

01:04:11.000 And I have found such value in the Hillsdale online courses.

01:04:17.000 And so let me just say this: that, and for parents, I'm going to say something that's going to be controversial.

01:04:22.000 I don't care.

01:04:23.000 If you have a child under the age of 12, you should bribe them to watch the Hillsdale courses.

01:04:28.000 You should pay them.

01:04:28.000 No, seriously.

01:04:29.000 Seriously.

01:04:30.000 That's how important it is.

01:04:31.000 The Hillsdale.edu online courses are beautiful when it comes to the Constitution on Aristotle.

01:04:38.000 And before you send your kid to high school or college, if you say, just take six of these, I'm going to give you $100, it'd be the best money you ever spend.

01:04:47.000 Because it's very in-depth, and they take notes and they have quizzes after.

01:04:52.000 And then we on our program tries to be a little bit more of an everyday version of some of those more distant ideas and we incorporate them.

01:05:00.000 But I want to compliment you.

01:05:02.000 The Wall Builders is terrific.

01:05:03.000 I really agree with that.

01:05:04.000 So thank you.

01:05:05.000 Okay.

01:05:06.000 Yes.

01:05:08.000 Hey, Charlie.

01:05:09.000 Going along a little bit with what the gal was saying over there, I go to a church in Seattle that's really started to buy in and propagate the woke agenda and CRT.

01:05:18.000 And we're a largely white congregation.

01:05:20.000 I've been told that as a white person, I need to do the work and do better, et cetera, et cetera.

01:05:27.000 I'm actually having a conversation this Friday with both of our lead pastors and our worship leader.

01:05:32.000 And like you said, I don't want to be combative.

01:05:34.000 I want to represent Jesus as best as possible.

01:05:37.000 Just any tips on that would be great.

01:05:39.000 Yeah, thank you for that.

01:05:40.000 And, you know, I've done a lot of research on this, and there's a really dangerous trend happening in a lot of churches across the country, which is a mixture of a couple things.

01:05:52.000 White guilt, virtue signaling, and really bad theology.

01:05:57.000 So I don't know if your church has good theology or not. 0.75

01:05:58.000 So I'm not going to necessarily, it's okay.

01:06:00.000 Well, there you go.

01:06:01.000 So if your theology is a little bit shaky, then you start to view the scriptures or the biblical narrative as a means for massive social change, not for eternal life or for transformation.

01:06:15.000 Does that make sense?

01:06:16.000 So if your theology is a little bit more allegorical and less literal, then all of a sudden it's what you mean.

01:06:23.000 Well, maybe Jesus Christ was a social activist is what they say.

01:06:27.000 Maybe he was less of a savior and more of a community organizer.

01:06:30.000 These are things they say, right?

01:06:33.000 And it's true. 0.59

01:06:35.000 So the race one is a very interesting one and one that I really have no tolerance for, quite honestly, because we are the least racist country ever to exist in the history of the world.

01:06:48.000 And they do this in a variety of different ways.

01:06:54.000 And again, it all comes from our universities, almost all of this, coupled with, again, shaky theology.

01:06:59.000 The first thing is that they really think race matters.

01:07:03.000 So the fact that they say, well, white people have to do better, like, whoa, whoa, hold on a second.

01:07:07.000 Are you trying to just put some form of a preference on the melanin content in my skin?

01:07:12.000 Which is yes.

01:07:13.000 So their idea of racism is not what our view of racism is.

01:07:18.000 Their view of racism is institutional, structural, systemic.

01:07:22.000 It's everywhere, where the correct view of racism is one person being awful to another person based on the color of your skin.

01:07:31.000 Now, let me be clear.

01:07:32.000 If that is any one of you here today, you got work to do.

01:07:35.000 You got people to atone to, and you got to really get, you got to get deep into the scriptures and seek forgiveness.

01:07:42.000 However, just because you're a white person does not automatically make you a racist that harbors all of this resentment at all.

01:07:51.000 This automatic classification of people based solely on their skin color is it's it's beyond dangerous.

01:07:58.000 It's destructive to a society.

01:08:00.000 So let's just talk about the numbers though, because they don't like talking about this part.

01:08:04.000 If what they said was true, then the other prerequisites that factor into these sorts of outputs would have no bearing.

01:08:14.000 And what do I mean?

01:08:15.000 That's a really wordy way to say a very obvious thing.

01:08:18.000 A black child in America that is raised by a mother and father is more likely to succeed through every objective metric imaginable than a white child raised by a single mother.

01:08:29.000 So if you go through prerequisites, right, because that's what we're talking about here.

01:08:33.000 Again, now we're talking about things that are actually a little bit above the tribal screaming that we're seeing from the left, such as how many inputs go into the output of a human being?

01:08:42.000 A lot.

01:08:43.000 And discrimination is not the only input.

01:08:46.000 In fact, the number one bearing is whether or not you have a stable mother and a father.

01:08:50.000 But there's others, which is how many words does a three-year-old hear on a daily basis?

01:08:54.000 So if a three-year-old is hearing more than 4,000 words on a daily basis, they're more likely to have a higher IQ and less likely to commit crimes.

01:09:01.000 Now, it also depends on what kind of music they're listening to.

01:09:04.000 Are they listening to heavy metal and rap music or classical music with soft undertones?

01:09:09.000 These sorts of things have really important bearings.

01:09:12.000 And skin color is really irrelevant to those sorts of things, actually.

01:09:16.000 But they're saying that they do and they do matter.

01:09:18.000 I could get into some of the more specifics, such as, and you guys see that here in Seattle, especially, that Asian Americans are about 50% wealthier on average than white Americans in America.

01:09:29.000 If we were so systemically racist, how could that possibly be?

01:09:34.000 And so also, why is it that the richest immigrant group in America per nation is Nigerian immigrants?

01:09:41.000 Nigerian immigrants that are black, that come to America without money or resources, are the richest immigrant group after a decade of living in America.

01:09:50.000 I could go on. 0.90

01:09:51.000 I have a litany of facts and data, science and statistics that go to show this.

01:09:55.000 But basically their entire conclusion is this, which is a sloppy, pernicious, and dare I say, evil way to look at the world, which is they look at a disparity.

01:10:07.000 They look at a difference.

01:10:08.000 And they blame the entire difference on discrimination.

01:10:13.000 Instead of saying, oh, there's a difference.

01:10:15.000 What are maybe the 50 other inputs that could be into this?

01:10:19.000 Are the streets safe when they walk to school?

01:10:22.000 Are the schools any good?

01:10:25.000 Nutrition.

01:10:26.000 All these sorts of things.

01:10:27.000 Now, they'll blame racism on all of those things. 0.98

01:10:31.000 That is such a ridiculous argument when you get down to it.

01:10:35.000 And I'll say this, I'm not going to say that there was no discrimination ever. 0.89

01:10:38.000 Actually, I'll even give them that anything leading up to 1965, just take that as a normal.

01:10:44.000 Okay, let's say that, so for example, the black motherhood, the black single motherhood rate in 1965 was 22%. 0.94

01:10:52.000 So in 1965, 22% of all black children were raised without a father. 0.55

01:10:57.000 I will say, okay, that's the legacy of slavery, Jim Crow, KKK. 0.59

01:11:01.000 I'll give them that, legitimately, okay?

01:11:03.000 Then they have to explain why it went from 22 to 77% as America got less racist.

01:11:09.000 So I'll give them the premise.

01:11:11.000 They got to explain the 50-point jump since 1965.

01:11:16.000 And they don't want to have that conversation.

01:11:17.000 That as America got sick...

01:11:19.000 Oh, that's interesting.

01:11:21.000 As America got significantly less racist, and yeah, I know, it got all of a sudden those conditions worsened.

01:11:31.000 The final thing I'll say is this, which is a lot of this, and I'll never underestimate the power of white guilt.

01:11:39.000 And this is something that Shelby Steele has written about a lot, which is that for what there is this, there's this pathological obsession of upper middle class white people that work for Amazon and Starbucks to think that they have to be the white savior of black America.

01:11:55.000 No, seriously. 0.96

01:11:56.000 And it's a really sick thing.

01:11:58.000 It is. 0.95

01:11:58.000 And it's like, first of all, you're super racist the way that you just categorize society. 0.95

01:12:04.000 And secondly, unless you have materially and actively been racist in someone else's life, why are you trying to overcompensate for yourself?

01:12:13.000 Maybe there is something you're not telling us.

01:12:15.000 And again, racism is not of the Lord.

01:12:18.000 But if all of a sudden, if all you're talking about is race, maybe they're the racists and you're not.

01:12:25.000 God bless you.

01:12:26.000 Thank you for your question.

01:12:27.000 We'll take a couple more, okay?

01:12:31.000 How's it going, Charlie?

01:12:32.000 My name is Riker Roberts, and I live a little bit close to here.

01:12:35.000 And I've been watching you on news probably the past three or four years.

01:12:38.000 And I just want to say I'm really refreshed to have somebody that I feel like has a fire, you know, as somebody that's younger and that's not sitting here and seeing that just because of his age, he has nothing to say.

01:12:49.000 So I appreciate that.

01:12:50.000 So my question is, you know, I have a few real quick, but with the Senate runoff, right, they were at, I think Purdue was at 49%.

01:12:59.000 And they had a combined like 400 or 500,000 win total between two of them.

01:13:04.000 And they made them go to that because they didn't reach the 50% mark.

01:13:08.000 I think that's something that people need to look into.

01:13:09.000 That's just, that's so corrupt.

01:13:11.000 And the fact that they won overnight and then the insurrection happened the very next day and we were all told to shut up about it.

01:13:18.000 So that happened.

01:13:20.000 I asked you about the 3 a.m. voting count and how they woke up and that today we're told that that's just normal and that cops don't have any jurisdiction.

01:13:30.000 FBI has no jurisdiction.

01:13:32.000 DOJ has no jurisdiction.

01:13:34.000 Apparently that's okay.

01:13:35.000 We're told to shut up about that.

01:13:37.000 My other question is Jim Crow 2.0. 0.94

01:13:40.000 I think that's kind of positive because finally we actually had some pushback by America on complete and utter ridiculousness.

01:13:47.000 I felt like, yeah, MLB might have made the wrong decision, but I feel like America has said that voting laws need to be changed.

01:13:55.000 And so my question to you is very simple and it's kind of darker, but I don't want it to be that bad.

01:14:00.000 Darker than that?

01:14:01.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:04.000 If God's plan, because I'm a big believer in God's plan, so I've always been at peace my whole life, no matter what happens to me.

01:14:10.000 If God's plan is for us to not get better, if God's plan is for us not to fix these laws, look at the 37 states, good job.

01:14:18.000 But if that doesn't work, and we're sitting here and you're in your 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s talking about the same thing, and so am I. Are we just going to have to say goodbye to our country?

01:14:28.000 Or is there something else that you think that might happen?

01:14:31.000 Well, that's kind of dark.

01:14:33.000 I got to give you credit on that.

01:14:38.000 Yeah, geez.

01:14:39.000 Yeah, look.

01:14:42.000 So, look, I actually think, I think that your concern is a good one.

01:14:50.000 It's a question I get a lot, and this is not the question you asked, so let me answer that second, but let me first answer one question I get a lot, which is, Charlie, do you think we're going to win?

01:14:59.000 And that's part of the essence of your question.

01:15:02.000 I can't stand this question.

01:15:03.000 It's one of the top three questions I get.

01:15:06.000 Again, I'm not saying it's your question, but there's an essence of it, which is basically what people are asking me to say, is no, I don't think we're going to win.

01:15:14.000 Therefore, you're like, okay, good, now I can give up.

01:15:17.000 That's what some people ask.

01:15:19.000 Let me be very clear.

01:15:20.000 I'm not a Vegas odds maker, okay?

01:15:22.000 I'm not.

01:15:23.000 I'm not going to handicap whether or not we're going.

01:15:26.000 There's so many forces at play here.

01:15:28.000 I will say this: the Lord does not honor what is happening right now.

01:15:34.000 We know that.

01:15:35.000 And he doesn't. 0.62

01:15:38.000 And the most instructive story is Genesis 11, the creation of the Tower of Babel, trying to create something up to the heavens bigger and larger than God. 0.62

01:15:48.000 They almost can't help themselves, but do that. 0.95

01:15:51.000 We know how that ended in chaos and scattering across the globe.

01:15:55.000 And so this is a good question of what comes next.

01:15:58.000 I really don't know.

01:15:59.000 I don't.

01:16:00.000 There's many, many different outcomes that could be coming.

01:16:04.000 And there's about 50 different trends that we talk about on our show that people are afraid to talk about, which is that we're entering the most violent decade in American history.

01:16:12.000 And it's manufactured for the sole purpose to create a national police force.

01:16:17.000 That they do not want to abolish the police.

01:16:19.000 They have never wanted to abolish the police.

01:16:21.000 That is not true.

01:16:22.000 They want a national police force.

01:16:24.000 And these local city councils defunding the police are manufacturing a scenario and a situation of suffering that the citizens like you are going to say, help us.

01:16:32.000 They'll say, okay, well, here's a national FBI police force that's been critically trained in diversity training.

01:16:37.000 You guys see it clearly now, right?

01:16:40.000 See, we're playing into their hands.

01:16:41.000 Like, oh, who could want to abolish the police?

01:16:43.000 No, no, they don't want to do that.

01:16:45.000 They want stormtroopers, okay?

01:16:47.000 And that's always been, and this is, again, this is one of my complaints against the Republican Party.

01:16:51.000 It's so obvious that's why they're defunding police because they know what's going to happen.

01:16:56.000 It gives them an excuse for their own Democrat Gestapo squad, right?

01:17:00.000 That's a chess move and something that most Republicans, I'm trying to get the message out on just that one instance.

01:17:06.000 We're going to experience hyperinflation very, very soon.

01:17:09.000 It's almost guaranteed it's already here.

01:17:11.000 Why inflation?

01:17:13.000 Again, this is what makes our podcast a little bit different, which is we go a level deeper.

01:17:17.000 We're the why guys, right?

01:17:19.000 Well, inflation is not just about deteriorating the dollar.

01:17:22.000 How do you solve inflation?

01:17:23.000 Well, there's three ways to solve inflation.

01:17:25.000 You could raise rates.

01:17:26.000 They've decided they don't want to do that.

01:17:27.000 You could raise taxes, which they're going to do no matter what.

01:17:29.000 Or the third way, more human beings. 0.99

01:17:33.000 You could change the fabric of the political country if you bring in another 12 million people from the third world because more people are trading with dollars. 0.98

01:17:40.000 Therefore, all of a sudden, less the value of the dollar is spread amongst more people. 0.98

01:17:45.000 Therefore, it's a hedge against inflation.

01:17:47.000 So they're forcing the inflationary hand to justify an amnesty bill.

01:17:51.000 Again, most Republicans are playing right into this, saying, oh, they're trying to get inflation because it's only going to help asset holders.

01:17:56.000 Of course, that's part of it.

01:17:57.000 But the real part is that they want a political power grab to go bring in 15 million new people in the next five years.

01:18:03.000 And they're going to create the conditions that necessitate that solution.

01:18:08.000 Now, if you think I'm being a little Machiavellian, oh, I'm all in on the Machiavellian thing, okay?

01:18:12.000 I'm being very Machiavellian, okay?

01:18:14.000 I have stopped giving these people the benefit of good intentions a long time ago.

01:18:18.000 Now, your question was: what do we do if things don't change?

01:18:21.000 It's a perseverance of faith.

01:18:23.000 It's a test of faith.

01:18:24.000 So you've mentioned, thank you for being young.

01:18:27.000 In 1 Timothy, young Timothy, Paul commends Timothy and says, Do not let your age be a barrier to you trying to affect social change or trying to spread the word.

01:18:36.000 I'm paraphrasing, but it's there.

01:18:39.000 It's in 1 Timothy.

01:18:40.000 So that's a really important point.

01:18:42.000 The second thing is, what does it also say in 1 Timothy?

01:18:44.000 So Paul is in Athens.

01:18:46.000 Actually, he might not have been in Athens.

01:18:47.000 He might have been in Corsica a little bit.

01:18:49.000 Anyway, the point was he was scheduled for execution.

01:18:51.000 And before he was scheduled for execution, they gave him, they gave him, actually, might have been, yeah, he was in Athens.

01:18:58.000 He ended up getting killed in Rome, despite the point.

01:19:00.000 The point is that he was in exile and in kind of like controlled imprisonment.

01:19:06.000 And he had like nine months to write and study and send all these letters that we now call the New Testament, right?

01:19:11.000 To Thessalonica, to the people of Corinth.

01:19:13.000 The last letter that we know he wrote was probably the letter to young Timothy, right?

01:19:17.000 Timothy, this upstart kid that really wanted to spread the ministry.

01:19:21.000 And so he says at the end that I have run the good race, that I have endured to the end, that I have went forward with perseverance.

01:19:29.000 And that's my answer to you, man.

01:19:31.000 Is that I don't know how this thing's going to end up.

01:19:33.000 I think we are going to win because we have truth and I'm seeing a renewed spirit.

01:19:37.000 But we need to have that spirit that Paul had, where Paul knows, hey, any moment, those centurions are going to come drag me and I'm going to get reverse crucified for believing in my Lord and Savior.

01:19:46.000 Whoa, imagine that kind of sort of Damocles.

01:19:49.000 And yet he says, I'm more free than I ever will be.

01:19:52.000 And it says very clearly, I believe in 1 Corinthians, where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty.

01:19:56.000 That's true liberty.

01:19:57.000 It's not, I mean, this is a guy in jail writing the most amazing idea of being free.

01:20:04.000 And he's witnessing to the Roman guards.

01:20:07.000 These Roman guards are giving their lives to Christ that happen to be near him.

01:20:11.000 And so that's my message to you: we have to say, you know what?

01:20:13.000 I'm 27 years old.

01:20:14.000 I'm in this for the long fight.

01:20:16.000 I want to run the good race.

01:20:18.000 And it's going to be hard.

01:20:18.000 They're going to do everything they can against us, guys.

01:20:22.000 This is a different Democrat party.

01:20:24.000 They're playing for keeps, okay?

01:20:25.000 They're going for the jugular.

01:20:27.000 This is no joke.

01:20:29.000 This is 1940s, 1950s, style totalitarianism coming in.

01:20:33.000 You guys know that, right?

01:20:34.000 But what I want to be able to do is I want to finish well.

01:20:37.000 Whatever that finishing is, I want to be able to write that letter in 20 or 30 or 40 years, whatever, and say, you know what?

01:20:43.000 I stayed faithful.

01:20:45.000 I stayed committed.

01:20:46.000 And we finished the race.

01:20:48.000 And I want you guys all to think about that and pray on that.

01:20:50.000 If you're able to do that like Paul did, that should be the message of all of our lives and everything that we do.

01:20:56.000 God bless you.

01:20:56.000 Thank you for your question, okay?

01:21:02.000 We'll take a couple more, then I think we got to go to the next church.

01:21:06.000 So, hi, Charlie.

01:21:07.000 I just want to tell you that I welcome you, your encouragement and your stance and your commitment.

01:21:15.000 And we too are from Marysville Church that stayed open.

01:21:19.000 New Revival Ministries, Pastor Aaron Johnson and Steve Reed, were partnered with Jeff at Reset.

01:21:27.000 We talk often and we decided that that's what we need to do.

01:21:30.000 But when you decide to do something like that, then what we're required to do is to be active.

01:21:37.000 And so I'm going to say a couple things here and then ask the question.

01:21:43.000 I don't know how many of you here are with CLW, but that is the conservative ladies of Washington. 0.83

01:21:49.000 Hey, sisters! 1.00

01:21:51.000 Get online and get involved.

01:21:53.000 They are keeping us updated on what's going on in the schools.

01:21:56.000 They are encouraging us to go to our school boards to run for school boards.

01:21:59.000 We have to get involved.

01:22:01.000 And the other thing is, I don't know how many of you know this, but Thursday is the National Day of Prayer.

01:22:05.000 It's the first Thursday of May every year.

01:22:08.000 That's when the entire nation is going to pray together.

01:22:12.000 So there's several meetings set up, but we are holding one in Marysville at the Whistle Stop Sweet Shop.

01:22:18.000 You can get a flyer if you want to.

01:22:20.000 If you can't be there to pray, tell your friends and family about it.

01:22:23.000 But this flyer here gives you all the prayers.

01:22:27.000 And we encourage you then to go into Everett, the whole Snohomish County, will be there praying.

01:22:31.000 So my question for you, Charlie, is: is this why you're here and what you want us to do?

01:22:37.000 Yeah, it's partially why I'm here.

01:22:38.000 I mean, look, I, yeah, that's actually a really good question.

01:22:42.000 Like, why am I here in Seattle?

01:22:46.000 What are you doing here?

01:22:50.000 Look, I.

01:22:52.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:22:53.000 That's right.

01:22:55.000 Look, you kind of know the story, the background of how I actually ended up here, but why I'm giving 330 speeches a year and why I'm doing basically, let me think about this, 550 podcasts a year.

01:23:10.000 And let me think about this.

01:23:11.000 Yeah, that's about right.

01:23:12.000 About, yeah, a thousand hours of radio a year and television on top of that.

01:23:17.000 Oh, yeah, and running Turning Point USA and starting chapters on high school and college campuses.

01:23:21.000 The reason I'm doing that, and you know, I could have a whole speech on this.

01:23:26.000 I deleted all my social media off my phone and all this.

01:23:28.000 I'm thinking more clearly than ever, and I know where this is all headed.

01:23:32.000 I really do.

01:23:33.000 By the way, if you guys want to think clearly, get rid of your social media.

01:23:35.000 It's like a gift from the Lord.

01:23:36.000 It really is.

01:23:37.000 No, it's like a whole veil, except the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.

01:23:40.000 That's not technically social media.

01:23:42.000 But so, why am I here?

01:23:43.000 Is that, man, I'm speaking anywhere that people will have me to say some very clear things.

01:23:49.000 That in the Bible, it talks about time in two different ways.

01:23:52.000 So, the Greeks had two words for time: chronos, where we get the word chronological from, and Kairos, which is all throughout the book of Mark.

01:24:00.000 And Kairos is a different type of time.

01:24:02.000 The Greeks were phenomenal with language.

01:24:04.000 Our language is actually a lot more simple than theirs.

01:24:07.000 They really took words seriously.

01:24:08.000 Kairos is a moment of action, a moment unlike any other, a moment that will determine the future.

01:24:15.000 And that's the type of time that we're in, a Kairos moment.

01:24:18.000 Because I felt right after Joe Biden got inaugurated, the body of Christ believers and conservatives getting into this kind of sort of a victim mentality.

01:24:29.000 We lost, they stole it, you know, like, and I get all of that. 0.62

01:24:32.000 We just had a good dialogue about that.

01:24:33.000 I get it.

01:24:34.000 But then I said, you know what?

01:24:35.000 I got to do everything I can because, look, my family has been here since the 1620s and fought in every single major war from the Revolutionary War to the Civil War to World War II, giving immense sacrifices.

01:24:47.000 And this is a beautiful country and a wonderful country.

01:24:50.000 And by the way, let me just be very clear: I didn't go to Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale.

01:24:54.000 I didn't go to college.

01:24:55.000 I'm like every single one of you, okay?

01:24:57.000 There's nothing unique or special except the fact that I study really hard, I'm able to make arguments in a way that makes sense, and I work really hard.

01:25:04.000 All of you guys could be doing something the way that we're doing it.

01:25:07.000 So, why am I here?

01:25:08.000 I'm here to show you that you're not alone, that I'm barnstorm in the country, and that you guys possess the tools at your disposal to make a difference.

01:25:16.000 And then I'm especially going to churches because you guys really are the ones that need to get into that posture right now.

01:25:21.000 You're the ones that have to get more active than ever before.

01:25:24.000 So, thank you.

01:25:25.000 Okay, I think we're going to go and do one or two more.

01:25:27.000 Is that okay?

01:25:28.000 I got one question to ask.

01:25:29.000 It's from a friend of mine.

01:25:30.000 I need the question.

01:25:31.000 I need the question.

01:25:32.000 I can see the question.

01:25:33.000 Uh-oh.

01:25:34.000 So, she wants to ask: how can we educate others who don't believe or understand what's happening?

01:25:40.000 And how do we approach the topic with children?

01:25:44.000 Yeah, that's a yeah, geez, we need to double our homeschooling population over the next five years that we have to do.

01:25:52.000 So, it's a great question.

01:25:54.000 Look, the art of persuasion is a hard one.

01:25:57.000 So, let's go to the person who is the greatest dialoguer of all time.

01:26:01.000 I love the word dialogue, by the way.

01:26:02.000 It comes from two Greek words, which means through logos or through reason, dia, as we get diameter, log, logos, reason, speech, which is all throughout John and John 1.

01:26:12.000 So, what is the best way to pursue truth?

01:26:14.000 Well, Jesus, being truth himself, did it by asking questions.

01:26:19.000 Phenomenal way of getting towards truth.

01:26:21.000 Who do men say that I am?

01:26:23.000 What is love?

01:26:28.000 Should you do this on the Sabbath?

01:26:30.000 He asked the best questions that anyone has ever asked, and he allowed people to think and process it for itself.

01:26:36.000 If you guys are trying to persuade a friend of yours, just ask questions.

01:26:39.000 So, why do you believe what you believe?

01:26:42.000 Where do rights come from?

01:26:44.000 What is government?

01:26:46.000 Is Seattle currently going in the right direction?

01:26:52.000 Right?

01:26:53.000 Why is it not going in the right direction?

01:26:57.000 Do you think we should get rid of all police?

01:26:58.000 What do you think they're going to replace that with?

01:27:00.000 These are very basic questions.

01:27:02.000 We need to do more asking and less telling.

01:27:05.000 The more asking, the more pursuit towards truth.

01:27:08.000 I'm telling you, it will not happen immediately.

01:27:10.000 It's not about the conversions, it's about the conversations.

01:27:14.000 So the number one form of censorship in our country is self-censorship.

01:27:19.000 It's people shutting themselves up.

01:27:22.000 I do it.

01:27:24.000 That's right.

01:27:25.000 There are family members where I'm like, I can't do it.

01:27:29.000 I am no greater than you.

01:27:30.000 Seriously.

01:27:32.000 And I'm up here doing this every single day.

01:27:34.000 But I'm like you guys where I'm like, I am exhausted.

01:27:37.000 I just want to get through this meal.

01:27:40.000 And you're right?

01:27:43.000 And I repent for those moments, by the way.

01:27:46.000 I do.

01:27:46.000 Now, I am not getting preachy on you guys.

01:27:49.000 I'm right down there with you.

01:27:51.000 But I think to myself, man, if I really am going to live out the courage I'm trying to instill with you, I got to at least stand for what I believe when it's going to be the most uncomfortable for me, right?

01:28:01.000 I got to at least stand for truth to the people close because that's the hardest.

01:28:04.000 You all know that.

01:28:05.000 It's easy to go up to a stranger and be like, you know what?

01:28:08.000 You should be a conservative.

01:28:08.000 You never have to see that person again.

01:28:10.000 This is why Uber drivers have more collective wisdom because everyone talks to them, right?

01:28:14.000 Never have to see this person again.

01:28:16.000 I could just tell them my whole life story.

01:28:18.000 No, they have the greatest stories ever because people just give every, because it's like an anonymous therapist, right?

01:28:23.000 It's true.

01:28:24.000 And that's it.

01:28:25.000 I'm done.

01:28:26.000 And then never have to talk.

01:28:27.000 But if that's a family member driving you, whoa.

01:28:30.000 Because what does that mean?

01:28:31.000 That's accountability.

01:28:32.000 That is consistency.

01:28:33.000 And all of a sudden, you might not say those things and you might not open up that way.

01:28:36.000 What am I getting at is that we have to be more bold to have the toughest conversations, which the closest people to us.

01:28:43.000 Now, before we get into politics, though, every single person here has to be a daily ambassador to bring people to Christ every single day.

01:28:50.000 Because once that happens, that's the most important thing.

01:28:53.000 So, and by the way, there might be some people here that are like, all right, Charlie, I love you.

01:28:57.000 And I kind of plug my ears during the religious thing.

01:28:59.000 I've been burned by the church.

01:29:00.000 I get it.

01:29:01.000 There's a lot of churches out there that don't do it the right way.

01:29:04.000 There's a lot of people that say one thing and they don't do the other.

01:29:06.000 But let me tell you, that doesn't make the gospel any less necessary for you.

01:29:10.000 Just because you've been burned by a church or some guy on TV that said something and did something else, let me tell you, here's the gospel in four words, three words, two words, one word.

01:29:17.000 Four words.

01:29:18.000 Jesus took my place.

01:29:20.000 Three words.

01:29:21.000 Him for me.

01:29:23.000 Two words.

01:29:24.000 Substitutionary atonement.

01:29:26.000 One word, grace.

01:29:27.000 Now, what is grace?

01:29:29.000 Let's talk about justice, mercy, and grace.

01:29:33.000 We throw around these words all the time.

01:29:35.000 Very few people can ever define them.

01:29:37.000 Justice is getting what you deserve.

01:29:40.000 Stole something from a local store, go in front of a judge, serve in a prison sentence.

01:29:46.000 Mercy is going in front of the judge, and they find out you stole something, and they give you a little bit of a less prison sentence.

01:29:52.000 But grace is something that is beyond human comprehension.

01:29:55.000 Where you go right in front of the judge and they're about to sentence you to jail and someone pops up and says, I will serve that prison sentence for him.

01:30:06.000 That's grace.

01:30:07.000 Where all of a sudden you're like, wait, I can go?

01:30:09.000 I'm done?

01:30:10.000 Like, yep, I got this.

01:30:11.000 That debt's been paid.

01:30:13.000 He's good.

01:30:14.000 Now, we're going to keep on messing up every single day we live.

01:30:17.000 Every single day you need to be renewed with grace.

01:30:20.000 But once you accept Jesus Christ into your life, I could tell you as someone who has done this, something's different.

01:30:26.000 The way you talk, the way you eat, after you do something that you don't like, it's all of a sudden you're bringing Jesus with you when you do that.

01:30:33.000 Not to say you live a perfect life, of course not.

01:30:36.000 But you are actually reborn.

01:30:37.000 That's why we call it born again.

01:30:40.000 And so this is a question for everyone to ask, which is, what happens when I die?

01:30:46.000 Every person thinks about that at least once a week, if not every single day.

01:30:50.000 It's what dominates everything.

01:30:53.000 And we have an answer to that, is that you're able to have life everlasting.

01:30:56.000 It's a gift.

01:30:56.000 It's literally just there on the table for you to take.

01:30:58.000 It's not about checking boxes, not about giving money and all that stuff.

01:31:02.000 You do that because you're saved.

01:31:03.000 You don't do works to get saved.

01:31:05.000 You do works because you are saved.

01:31:07.000 Right?

01:31:07.000 Let me be very clear.

01:31:08.000 And you accept that gift, you have life everlasting.

01:31:12.000 Every other religion is about you getting closer to God.

01:31:16.000 Got to wear the hat, got to eat the food. 0.99

01:31:19.000 Christianity is totally different. 1.00

01:31:21.000 It's God coming to you. 0.99

01:31:23.000 Where it's just, you just got to open up your heart and let them in.

01:31:26.000 And so then from there, once you're all daily ambassadors and missionaries every single day for Christ, then once people start drinking from the streams of liberty, they're going to want to find its source.

01:31:36.000 Because liberty is not man's idea, it's God's idea.

01:31:39.000 And that's the way you'll win people over.

01:31:40.000 God bless you.

01:31:41.000 Okay, we'll do the last question back there.

01:31:44.000 We've been at it almost for two hours, guys.

01:31:47.000 So it's great.

01:31:48.000 I love it.

01:31:48.000 It's great.

01:31:48.000 It's really great to meet you, by the way.

01:31:51.000 I'm really grateful that you have been in the colleges and in the high schools.

01:31:57.000 I'm a recent college graduate, a much older adult, doing that.

01:32:02.000 And I was at the University of Hawaii.

01:32:04.000 I miss it when you and Candace were there.

01:32:06.000 Oh, that just kills me.

01:32:08.000 But I did meet Tiana Elisara.

01:32:10.000 She headed a chapter there at the University of Hawaii, and that's how I found out about you guys.

01:32:15.000 But I'm very excited too that you are in the high schools.

01:32:19.000 And if you could, because I brought a soon-to-be high schooler here with me, if you could please speak to the young people who maybe aren't that interested in politics or, you know, maybe roll their eyes when these kinds of things are mentioned.

01:32:34.000 Could you speak to them about what is happening right now?

01:32:38.000 Yeah.

01:32:40.000 Look, I was a unique high school kid.

01:32:43.000 I always loved politics.

01:32:44.000 And I loved it because my parents did a really good job.

01:32:46.000 And this is just some encouragement for some young parents out there of never ever teaching me politics.

01:32:52.000 My parents never did that.

01:32:53.000 They did a really good job, though, of making me understand the country and our history and what made us different.

01:33:00.000 And then from there, I realized: well, then why do some people want to mess up this beautiful country that we're in, right?

01:33:05.000 So that's the most important thing is the patriotic element.

01:33:07.000 And let me tell you, as someone who studies this history for hours a day, we have some amazing history in this country that most young people are never exposed to.

01:33:16.000 That could only be described or explained as divine intervention at times.

01:33:20.000 But look, I get it.

01:33:21.000 If you're 12 or 13 or 14, you're like, oh boy, the political thing.

01:33:25.000 I get it.

01:33:26.000 And that's fine.

01:33:27.000 But just understand that there will be a moment when all of a sudden you're going to come across something and say, that's not right.

01:33:36.000 For example, there's a young lady in the room here and you play sports.

01:33:41.000 And you're like, I don't like politics.

01:33:42.000 They drugged me along to this church thing.

01:33:44.000 And he's throwing all the, everyone's clapping, like, okay, let's just get home, whatever.

01:33:48.000 And maybe you're a young soccer player, 14 or 15.

01:33:51.000 But all of a sudden, you're going to be at a soccer match, and a bigger person than you've ever encountered is going to be playing against you.

01:33:57.000 Maybe a basketball meet, you know, basketball game.

01:34:01.000 And you're like, that doesn't, they're really athletic and really built. 0.95

01:34:05.000 Turns out that's a biological man playing against women.

01:34:07.000 And that person ends up winning all-star MVP, of which has happened in Connecticut, of which has happened all throughout the country.

01:34:13.000 And you complain to your parents, you say, I was not able to compete at my highest level because they had more testosterone and more muscle mass and they were bigger.

01:34:21.000 And you're like, well, you remember when that guy came to that really sweaty gym?

01:34:28.000 And you were counting down the minutes and you're like, I didn't like that.

01:34:33.000 And he said, you got to get involved and get engaged.

01:34:35.000 That's why it mattered.

01:34:38.000 It mattered because what he was talking about was, amongst other things, that men are men and women are women and women's sports are deserving of protection.

01:34:48.000 And so there's a hundred thousand different examples I could give there.

01:34:52.000 But it's coming.

01:34:53.000 It's coming to everyone's livelihood, regardless of your age, regardless of your background.

01:34:59.000 And so that would be my one piece of advice or kind of contribution to that.

01:35:03.000 And I'll say this: our high school students at Turning Point USA are just amazing.

01:35:08.000 They are so involved and so engaged in starting chapters.

01:35:10.000 We are on pace to have 1,000 Turning Point USA high school chapters by the end of this calendar year.

01:35:16.000 1,000 Turning Point USA high school chapters.

01:35:22.000 And if anyone here wants to get involved with Turning Point USA, we have a very easy website.

01:35:27.000 It's tpusa.com.

01:35:28.000 You can get engaged, get involved.

01:35:30.000 And we really are pushing every single day on high school and college campuses.

01:35:35.000 Let me close with this.

01:35:37.000 I will reinforce the shameless plug if you guys are able to subscribe.

01:35:41.000 This whole conversation, if you want to hear it again, will be re-aired on our podcast feed very soon.

01:35:46.000 I'm getting married this Saturday.

01:35:48.000 And I'm taking, thank you, very exciting.

01:35:51.000 And thank you.

01:35:54.000 And I'm taking a couple days off.

01:35:57.000 So you'll have to.

01:35:58.000 So, oh, thank you.

01:35:59.000 I know.

01:36:00.000 Lazy.

01:36:01.000 He's giving up.

01:36:05.000 And I'm going to take a whole week.

01:36:07.000 And so we're going to post a lot of these speeches.

01:36:09.000 So if you're like, man, I really want to hear that again, then you guys can subscribe as I told you on all of your podcast app.

01:36:15.000 And by the way, all of these open-air conversations we've been having across America, I think, are really helpful because a lot of the questions are there.

01:36:21.000 So I encourage you to do that.

01:36:22.000 But I'm going to end with this, which is on Pearl Harbor, the day of Pearl Harbor, the day that lived in infamy, there was one man smiling.

01:36:31.000 It's the greatest man to live in the 20th century, Winston Churchill, who he was taking it on the chin.

01:36:38.000 He was feeling similar to how some of you feel, which is where you're living through this cultural blitzkrieg, right?

01:36:45.000 Every day you wake up at something else.

01:36:48.000 Aunt Jemima, Dr. Seuss, Coca-Cola's been lost, Delta, they're raiding apartments.

01:36:55.000 You know, the stuff that you're like, whoa, this is not, this is a cultural blitz creek.

01:37:00.000 Shock and awe.

01:37:01.000 Winston Churchill was smiling on Pearl Harbor, looking at his fellow war cabinet, and he said, we have won the war.

01:37:12.000 They're like, what are you talking about?

01:37:15.000 We don't even have an inch in France.

01:37:18.000 What do you mean we've won the war?

01:37:20.000 We don't have it.

01:37:21.000 Our Navy nearly got obliterated in Dunkirk.

01:37:24.000 The morale of the people of London is going down by the day.

01:37:27.000 They bombed the hospital last week.

01:37:29.000 You just walked the rubble.

01:37:31.000 Our Royal Air Force, we're losing 300 people a day.

01:37:36.000 What do you mean we've just won the war?

01:37:38.000 And he said, oh no, I know the American people.

01:37:41.000 I studied their history.

01:37:42.000 He said, once they're awake, the war is over.

01:37:53.000 And I'm telling you right now, we awaken.

01:37:56.000 We are going to win.

01:37:59.000 It's time to take our country back, everybody.

01:38:01.000 God bless you guys.

01:38:02.000 Thank you so much.

01:38:07.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:38:09.000 Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:38:11.000 And if you want to support us, go to charliekirk.com/slash support or get involved at turningpointusa at tpusa.com.

01:38:19.000 God bless you guys.

01:38:20.000 Speak to you, sir.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 13, 2021

Igniting the New Great Awakening—LIVE from House Church in Seattle

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