00:00:00.000Welcome, everybody, to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:02.000This is Andrew Colvett, executive producer of the Charlie Kirk Show, filling in for Charlie, who's taking the week off.
00:00:08.000But meanwhile, we have lots to go over.
00:00:09.000We have Sheriff Mark Lamb, who walks through what the heck is going on on the border, just how bad it is, what he's seeing in his sector alone, and why the Biden administration is basically thumbing their noses at American citizens and doing a lot of lip service.
00:01:07.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:12.000The numbers have been up for the last two years.
00:02:14.000They continue to go up every day, every month.
00:02:18.000And now we expect them to really increase.
00:02:21.000I'll tell you right now, as we speak, my guy is dealing with two cars that were traveling together down the US 60 from Superior because they're trying to bypass the I-10 freeway where we are pulling our traffic stops.
00:02:34.000One of those vehicles had 11 people in it.
00:03:18.000I cannot overemphasize that our current situation is the outcome of Congress leaving a broken, outdated immigration system in place for over two decades, despite unanimous agreement that we desperately need legislative reform.
00:03:36.000So he says we need legislative reform, Sheriff.
00:03:39.000But you, being on the front lines of this crisis, can pinpoint that there was a before and after, can you not?
00:03:45.000So if it was Congress's fault, why was it distinctly better under President Trump?
00:03:50.000And even for that matter, President Obama.
00:03:52.000What changed that caused this crisis to escalate?
00:03:56.000The administration, the leadership in border and border patrol and in DHS is what changed.
00:04:02.000You know, the sign of weak leadership is blaming other people.
00:04:06.000Whether it is Congress's fault or not, he is in charge and he should accept that responsibility.
00:04:12.000That's what a good leader would do and get to fixing it.
00:04:15.000You know, he's all this time he's been telling everybody it wasn't a problem, that there wasn't a crisis, that the border was under control.
00:04:22.000Now that he realizes he can no longer hide that from the American people, now all of a sudden it's Congress's fault.
00:04:28.000Well, let me remind you: just a short two, six months ago, and for the two years previous to that, there was one party that controlled the House, the Senate, and the presidency.
00:04:41.000And I spoke, and I spoke back in about a month and a half ago at a congressional hearing in D.C. I actually said this to one of the Democrat members of Congress.
00:04:53.000I said, listen, you guys had the House, the Senate, and the presidency, but failed to pass any comprehensive immigration reform.
00:05:00.000So it's both Republicans and Democrats failing the people on this level of immigration.
00:05:06.000However, border security, regardless of what the immigration laws are, can still be maintained.
00:05:12.000And President Trump proved that over four years by reducing it to the levels we've never seen before.
00:05:19.000So I don't buy his argument, and it's a sign of poor leadership to blame somebody else.
00:05:24.000Yeah, well, I mean, Andy Biggs, somebody you and I both know and appreciate, he's been calling for the impeachment of Secretary Mayorkis for basic dereliction of duty and for flouting our immigration laws.
00:05:46.000But why then, Sheriff, did Biden come into office and then instantly stop building the wall?
00:05:53.000Why did he come in and revoke Remain in Mexico?
00:05:55.000And why did he fight in the courts for years to get rid of Title 42?
00:05:58.000President Trump was using our leverage with these countries in the Northern Triangle, for example, also with Venezuela, Cuba, Mexico, to stop this sea of migration.
00:06:12.000And yet, in one fell swoop, this administration has taken something that was relatively under control and turned it into an absolute disaster.
00:06:20.000So I want to bring back Secretary America's because he went on the offense this morning.
00:06:25.000He wanted to reassure everybody, cast blame, like you just said.
00:06:28.000But he also wanted to say that this does not mean our border is open.
00:06:32.000Title 42 does not mean our border is open.
00:06:34.000I'm going to ask for your reaction on the other side of this.
00:07:27.000But really, what they're saying is their words mean nothing because their actions tell the cartels and tell all the people coming here illegally that you won't be sent back.
00:07:38.000You won't be held accountable for breaking our laws.
00:07:41.000And the actions matter more than the words.
00:07:44.000So, you know, that's really, and I want to go back to one thing you said: is Joe Biden said two years ago, two and a half years ago, he said he wanted to reinvent America.
00:07:57.000And one of the ways you do that is you undermine the rule of law.
00:08:00.000And a great way to undermine the rule of law is by opening the border and flooding our communities with unknown people, flooding our streets with people that could be criminals.
00:08:11.000We have no idea because they haven't done their job.
00:08:14.000And then they're flooding our communities with dangerous drugs, in particular fentanyl, which has become the leading cause of death amongst Americans.
00:08:22.000And that is how you undermine the rule of law, especially for us and local law enforcement, because we have no ability to enforce immigration.
00:08:29.000That has been time and time again reaffirmed by the federal government and the courts that it is their responsibility.
00:08:35.000So when you talk about opening the borders, it reinvents America by undermining the rule of law and making our job very difficult, creating even greater need for federal government, which is where we cannot continue to look for the federal government for the answers.
00:08:54.000Well, yeah, and don't look to Katie Hobbs to be taking any bold stands at the border at the state level.
00:09:00.000And, you know, I mean, at least Texas has a fighting chance, right, of sending some of its own personnel to the border to augment the force that the CBP is.
00:09:12.000I mean, and that's actually what I was planning on asking about it.
00:09:14.000You interact with a lot of CBP, Customs and Border Patrol folks.
00:09:46.000They feel like they're aiding and abetting in this human smuggling organization because they're now having to take people and drop them off into our communities.
00:09:54.000We talked to a guy the other day that said they had to drop off like a thousand people into Tucson, which were people from India, from Brazil, from Africa, from all these different countries.
00:10:09.000And so this is what we're going to be dealing with.
00:10:12.000And now the governor, we met with the governor yesterday.
00:10:14.000Their plan is not to enforce or to help stop the problem.
00:10:19.000Their plan is really just to, as far as it relates to law enforcement, is search and rescue, which we do anyway.
00:10:25.000We don't really need the help of the state if they want to help cover some of the costs of the fuel and all that that are going to increase because we have to go get people out of the desert.
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00:12:09.000We have seen the effectiveness of our approach.
00:12:12.000More than 100,000 people from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela have arrived lawfully through the pathway we have made available to them.
00:12:22.000And we reduced border encounters from these groups by 90% between December of last year and March of this year.
00:12:31.000All right, Sheriff Mark Lamb, you just heard Secretary Mayorka saying that his policies are working and actually, you know, we're just letting a lot more people in legally so that there's no more border encounters.
00:12:44.000Is that what he's just saying right there?
00:12:55.000And that's his way of saying, hey, look, we've made this process much better.
00:12:59.000We've got a lot of work to do on the immigration end.
00:13:01.000Let me put it into perspective for your viewers.
00:13:04.000In Arizona, there are 386 ICE agents in the state of Arizona.
00:13:08.000Most states don't have that amount of people in it.
00:13:11.000Just this morning alone, before I even came on this show, there were 800 people that had already been that had come across in Yuma, and there was another 400 waiting on the other side to come across.
00:13:22.000So we couldn't even process all the people out of this country that just came in today, let alone having to deal with millions of people.
00:13:31.000So there's a real problem to deal with there.
00:13:33.000We've got to actually enforce the law, whether it's Title 42, which is now going away.
00:13:38.000You need to enforce Title VIII, which means that you cannot come into this country illegally.
00:13:42.000We certainly need to streamline the process for those people who do actually take the attempt to file their paperwork and come into this country illegally.
00:13:50.000In many cases, we are impeding people who are married to Americans or have children born in America from coming back into this country who are trying to do it the right way.
00:14:00.000All the while we are allowing and opening the gates for those people who are coming here illegally and rubber stamping people like he just talked about from other countries just to come in.
00:14:11.000So there's a lot of work that needs to be done on the congressional side.
00:14:14.000Let me highlight something for you, Sheriff.
00:14:17.000This is Bill Melusian put out a tweet.
00:14:20.000He said, FYI, when you hear DHS Secretary Mayorkis say that migrants are placed into removal proceedings, that does not mean they are being removed.
00:14:30.000Sometimes it does, but a large majority of the time it means release with future court date.
00:14:35.000That is part of Title VIII removal proceedings.
00:14:39.000Well, then he follows that up here with this is a News Nation reporter on the board.
00:14:46.000He says, I'm speaking with Venezuelan migrants in El Paso who have been released with NTA's notice to appear with a court date in 2026.
00:15:04.000I was actually going to tell you that the average court date was two to four years.
00:15:09.000Now it's about three to five years from now.
00:15:11.000So they give them the ability to come into this country and not be held accountable for coming to this country illegally.
00:15:16.000They're giving them court dates from who knows when.
00:15:18.000And you don't have enough judges to process all the thousands of people that are coming today.
00:15:23.000And so imagine, are those court dates ever even going to happen?
00:15:27.000And they have the statistic for those who show back up to court is extremely low.
00:15:32.000So basically, they know that once we let them in, the likelihood of them actually going through the process and becoming legal is very low.
00:16:02.000Anything common sense, anything that obviously would disincentivize the sea of migrants, the 700,000 that are banging down the door right now and are going to come in tomorrow at midnight.
00:16:13.000Anything that would disincentivize them, they've thrown out.
00:16:51.000And I think we could regain control of this border in a very short order and start to put in place some real immigration reform and deal with this issue once and for all.
00:17:01.000But we've got to have better people in office to do that.
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00:20:01.000So you got to understand that the backstory is that in the EU, the death penalty does not exist.
00:20:06.000In fact, there's only one country in all of Europe that still has the death penalty, and that's Belarus, which is in Eastern Europe, not an EU member.
00:20:14.000And in fact, Russia doesn't even have the death penalty.
00:20:18.000And so for any EU member to even discuss bringing this back, I mean, it would be like, I mean, it would be like us talking about bringing back firing squads or something, which I do know that I think Idaho was actually talking about this recently.
00:20:32.000So the backstory here is that unfortunately, there was a horrific case of child abuse in Poland, this total psychopath where, you know, murder in general is very, very low in Poland.
00:20:44.000It's one of the lowest countries in all of the OCED, the developed countries list.
00:20:49.000And it was an eight-year-old child who was unfortunately brutalized and killed.
00:20:55.000And the Prime Minister of Poland came out straight up and said, we should reinstate the death penalty when it comes for child abuse.
00:21:01.000And Andrew, I got to say, if there's any crime that deserves it, it's that.
00:21:05.000Yeah, well, meanwhile, Jack, we have 85,000 unaccompanied minors scattered throughout the country that DHS has just lost track of.
00:21:12.000And AOC and all the left crying liberals can't be bothered to even talk about it because they want to be humane on America's border with these migrant children.
00:21:24.000You know, what's amazing about that is that you have this case where we have these people coming across the border and they say, oh, they're just looking for a better life.
00:21:31.000They're just looking for better opportunities for their families.
00:21:33.000Yeah, that's an open pipeline for human trafficking, not just labor trafficking, but child sex trafficking, trafficking in women, people that are getting put into modern-day slavery, kids that are bought and sold and abused on all sorts of, you know, whether it be OnlyFans or whatever else on the internet that they're using and different apps, that this is actually supporting human trafficking.
00:22:00.000This is actual, the definition of human trafficking is supporting illegal immigration.
00:22:05.000And I see this come up in the e-Verify debate.
00:22:07.000I see this come up in the general securing the border debate, the Title 42 debate.
00:22:13.000I'm sick of conservatives not calling it what it is.
00:22:18.000It's not so much that these are people in many of these cases that are, oh, they're escaping something.
00:22:24.000And I love that the new bill that's out there, the Secure Border Act that Biggs is pushing, talking about actually questioning these asylum claims, especially for people who aren't applying for asylum on the way, because they're coming to third, fourth, and the United States is like the fifth country they've gotten to since they left their original country.
00:22:40.000That's not the way asylum is supposed to work under the UN.
00:22:43.000And so what we're doing as the United States, and we need to be very clear about this, by keeping our border the way it is and not implementing a serious e-verify program, which by the way, DeSantis just signed into the state.
00:23:00.000But the fact of the matter is that in all of the other 49 states, it is, as far as I know, it is still just a voluntary procedure.
00:23:06.000So you're going to keep the incentive for those people to come across and they're going to put themselves in situations where they become at risk to trafficking, at risk to sex trafficking.
00:23:17.000And I'm sick of conservatives not going on offense and reminding the left that they do not have the moral high ground on any of these issues.
00:23:25.000When you talk about abortion, it's like, or even when they talk about guns, they say, oh, we just want to protect kids.
00:23:35.000You're the side that's for killing kids.
00:23:36.000So, don't try to play the moralizing arguments with me on here because every time it comes to one of those moral gray areas, you guys will choose the gray over the morally clarified point.
00:23:47.000And it's exactly the same for illegal immigration, for the border.
00:23:51.000This is industrial human trafficking that the powers that be, and apparently the Biden administration, and you saw my Orcus's insane press conference just now, are totally cool with.
00:24:00.000Oh, no, we ripped, we ripped my orcas with Sheriff Lamb big time.
00:24:04.000I mean, the guy's a total joke, dereliction of duty.
00:24:06.000I mean, what man in Congress, and by the way, this is aired to do.
00:24:13.000I know he was exactly, but seriously, who has more blood on their hand in all of, I mean, maybe the maybe what's going on with Ukraine, right?
00:24:26.000We're talking millions and millions of migrants that have been flooding in.
00:24:29.000And up and down the line, yes, the sex trafficking, the human trafficking, the drugs that are smuggled in that are killing America's youth with fentanyl overdoses.
00:24:39.000Not to mention the tax burden, the cultural transformation that we're witnessing.
00:24:46.000I mean, from the time I was growing up in this country to now, it's already remarkably different.
00:24:52.000The demographic change, and they'll say, oh, that's racist.
00:25:12.000So, if I can say that they reported it, because it's totally cool when they reported it, then that means I can get away with it because you have to wrap yourself in this like MSNBC burrito to be able to report things that are actually true.
00:25:23.000So, you can't claim that I'm the one who's claiming it because Joy Reid and Rachel Maddow are the ones who claimed it, not me.
00:25:50.000Do you share a passion for the history of its people and for the land that we stand on and that we built our civilization on?
00:25:57.000Funny enough, we, you know, because people know I'm, you know, my wife is an immigrant, but when she went through the naturalization test, she had to study all that stuff.
00:26:06.000She had to, and since we live in the DC area, you know, she was going to the Smithsonian a ton.
00:26:12.000And I think it's, it's, she loved, fell in love with America from afar, right?
00:26:17.000You know, not far from where I am right now.
00:26:19.000And she realized that this was the system and these were the people that made it work.
00:26:26.000And that's why it was important to go through the naturalization process out of respect for the country and its laws as are currently confined and the traditions that brought America to where it is.
00:26:44.000I just, I'm reading an article here from Daily Wire that says that in a major reversal, this is breaking Biden resurrects Trump border policy ahead of Title 42 repeal.
00:26:54.000I'm going to get to that in just a second, but you hit on a word here: respect.
00:27:49.000The United States government has a moral obligation to the people of these states first.
00:27:53.000That's what being American first means.
00:27:56.000You know, if someone's hungry and they show up at your house and they look like they're in a bad way, sure, help them out.
00:28:01.000But if somebody shows up with a thousand of their friends and demands to eat your food, then no, you don't have an obligation to let them in.
00:28:10.000They play these moral, they use moral trickery and they'll say, well, I think Jesus said something about feeding the hungry.
00:28:16.000It's like, no, that's not what's going on.
00:28:18.000You guys don't believe in the Bible anyway.
00:28:20.000So why would you even use that argument if you wouldn't apply it to yourselves?
00:28:24.000No, it's very clear what's going on is you've got a two-pronged situation where big business wants the cheap labor, and that's what it is.
00:28:35.000It is cheap labor that is brought in that depresses the wages of all Americans, by the way, which has a direct effect on America's economic well-being and the well-being of the working class.
00:28:44.000And then number two, Democrats want the votes.
00:28:46.000So this, which, which, by the way, like, oh, are those people really voting?
00:28:54.000No, and that's what's so frustrating is that every time there's common sense, actual reforms in place, they stonewall those reforms from taking place because they know it ultimately will benefit them electorally.
00:29:27.000It's a signal to all the other lefties out there that are like, oh, okay, we actually know that whatever the hell else comes after this, it doesn't mean anything.
00:31:21.000Well, you know, I'm heartened if I don't mean to depress and bum out our audience, especially our great Real America's Voice audience, but I just want to say, you know, there is hope.
00:31:35.000I remember when it was Bill Melusian was quoting Homan, former ICE Director Homan, Tom Homan, and he said he was bringing up a conversation.
00:31:46.000He said, you can take this to the bank.
00:31:48.000If Donald Trump is elected, you will see the single greatest deportation force in the history of this country.
00:32:04.000Is all of this intentional or are we supposed to take this reversal from Joe Biden as proof that it's not?
00:32:12.000Let me just explain to the audience and fill you in too.
00:32:14.000So the Biden administration has brought back a Trump era immigration rule the day before Title 42 is scheduled to sunset.
00:32:22.000And the rule finalized and published in the Federal Register on Wednesday disqualifies migrants from applying for asylum in the U.S. if they neglected to first apply for asylum in other countries they travel to, including Mexico.
00:32:36.000So what you basically have, before you go on your journey, you have to apply for asylum.
00:32:40.000If they encounter you at the border, you no longer qualify for asylum if you didn't do so.
00:32:45.000Is this proof that, hey, maybe we're being too cynical that they're actually trying to do something?
00:32:50.000Or am I, is that glass half way half full?
00:32:55.000I'm sitting over here in Eastern Europe.
00:32:57.000I'm not looking at Daily Wire right now.
00:32:58.000I'm like, like, you know, using the remote podcast rig or whatever.
00:33:03.000I just explained all that in the last segment, which is the UN standard for applying for asylum.
00:33:10.000And I had no idea that they were actually pushing back on that because it's actually insane.
00:33:16.000Look, let me tell you something right now.
00:33:18.000This is a testament to the power of this audience.
00:33:23.000As Steve Bannon always says, this is the power of the Real America's Voice audience, the Charlie Kirk audience, War Room, Human Events Daily, all of the populist nationalists pushing together.
00:33:34.000And really the reporting of Bill Malugan, of Michael Yon, of so many people, Sarah Carter, who've been on the border all the time, our own Ben Berquam, who's constantly down there, the Darien Gap, et cetera.
00:33:44.000Once you explain how absolutely mental this situation is, the American people are completely not far.
00:33:53.000By the way, if you look at opinion polls on this, this is like an 80-20 issue or a 70-30 issue.
00:34:10.000This, by the way, this is an issue, Andrew, that I've always said this is why the new right became born into existence through 2016 was because Trump in, you know, as early as his very first announcement at the, you know, the golden escalator and all that, remember, he specifically talked about two things, trade and immigration.
00:34:34.000And these were two issues that Republicans and Democrats had just completely sort of like left to the sidelines for so many years.
00:34:45.000When it comes down to it, money, jobs, immigration, foreign policy, war, which are all tied around those issues, they actually matter to a ton of Americans.
00:34:55.000This is why Trump won Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin in 2016 was because he was able to get those crossover Democrats who understand that you need to get all of this under control if we're going to have a nation or not.
00:35:08.000That is what brought over those, you know, I know you were talking about Reagan in California and the amnesty, but also what you used to consider the Reagan Democrats.
00:35:17.000Honestly, they're the same type of people that before they were called Reagan Democrats.
00:35:21.000This was the part of what we called the Kennedy coalition.
00:35:27.000This is what would have elected RFK Sr.
00:35:30.000And this is also, of course, what obviously RFK Jr.
00:35:33.000Is this the coalition that he's targeting right now?
00:35:36.000With, of course, the power of his name, the power of his name ID.
00:35:39.000Uh, these are your working-class Democrats who are willing to go for the guy that they think is going to fight for them the hardest on that stage.
00:35:48.000Well, if it comes down to do you love this country and do you love what's common sense right for us?