The Charlie Kirk Show - Inflated Polls and Ballot Paper Shortages? with Congressman Andy Biggs

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, two concerns are popping up.

00:00:03.000 Are we going to have enough paper for Election Day?

00:00:07.000 That's right.

00:00:07.000 They're already starting to warn that there might be a paper shortage at your local precinct.

00:00:12.000 Secondly, are the polls too inflated?

00:00:15.000 Are they using suppression tactics to make us seem like we're too far ahead?

00:00:19.000 Andy Biggs joins us as well to talk about what's happening in the LDS community in Arizona.

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00:01:50.000 I have now identified two threats to the looming red wave coming up on Election Day.

00:01:57.000 We got a really nice email from one of our listeners where they said, Charlie, stop saying red wave because it's going to prevent people from showing up to vote.

00:02:04.000 I actually think that's a very fair point.

00:02:07.000 I'm trying to get people excited, but I don't want you to get confident or cocky or not want to get into the streets.

00:02:13.000 We need to ignore a lot of these polls.

00:02:14.000 And I am the worst culprit of focusing on poll after poll because there's only so much information and data out there that anything that shows a sign of movement or traction, you want to zero in on.

00:02:24.000 And trends can be helpful, but individual polls can be very misleading.

00:02:27.000 But there are two things that we want to talk about today that are very important.

00:02:30.000 One, to do with the actual process of the election, as we predicted, election day plumbing, if you will.

00:02:37.000 The infrastructure of the election, the process of the election, the administration of the election.

00:02:41.000 And the media is now telling us that there might be some very big problems on election day.

00:02:47.000 Oh, really?

00:02:48.000 This is one of the reasons why I said that voting early in person might be the best decision for a lot of you.

00:02:55.000 I received some hate mail for that.

00:02:57.000 Charlie, no one should ever vote early. 0.65

00:02:59.000 That is a silly thing to say.

00:03:00.000 You're trying to tell me a truck driver who's going to be out of state on Election Day shouldn't vote early, or someone who's disabled, someone who's going to be traveling abroad.

00:03:10.000 In life, when you make those broad generalizations, you got to be very careful.

00:03:14.000 Now, voting in person and early gives you more time to correct it if they don't have your name right, if you're not registered in the correct precinct or in the right county or whatever.

00:03:23.000 It extends the window of time to make sure that you can vote.

00:03:27.000 However, I fully admit I'm not an early voting guy.

00:03:29.000 I'm showing up on Election Day and I'm going to vote on Election Day because that is the most secure way.

00:03:35.000 So we did an entire show last week warning about the different ways that Democrats could clog up the Election Day plumbing.

00:03:46.000 Said differently, they could manufacture a traffic jam.

00:03:50.000 That the Democrats would want the Election Day to look like the 405 at 5 p.m. on a Friday.

00:03:59.000 You might say, what does that mean?

00:04:00.000 Anyone in southern Los Angeles, in southern California, knows exactly what I mean.

00:04:04.000 It is dead still traffic, frustrating.

00:04:07.000 You just throw up your arms and you say, two hours, three hours, who knows?

00:04:12.000 LA traffic is really something.

00:04:14.000 I've spent a lot of time in LA traffic.

00:04:15.000 You could also say it's going on 90 into downtown Chicago on a Friday afternoon for all of our friends on AM 560, the answer.

00:04:23.000 Or trying to get into downtown New York, going through the tunnel at 3 p.m. in an afternoon.

00:04:32.000 You understand the point.

00:04:33.000 The point is a traffic jam.

00:04:34.000 People are deterred by traffic jams.

00:04:37.000 That is a provable fact.

00:04:39.000 People change their travel.

00:04:40.000 They stay later at work.

00:04:41.000 They monitor traffic.

00:04:43.000 No one wants to get stuck in a traffic jam.

00:04:45.000 And what if the masters of our elections, what if the puppeteers, what if the people that are administrating our election are designing a traffic jam?

00:04:57.000 What if the last thing that they have to stop this citizen response to their tyranny, to their authoritarianism, to the open borders, to the inflation, to the crime, to the economic carnage, to China taking over America, this citizen response is, we're just going to play games with whether or not we can actually facilitate their votes. 0.65

00:05:17.000 ABC News has a new article out today specifically talking about Phoenix, Arizona, as we predicted.

00:05:25.000 We talked about how Arizona is the railhead.

00:05:28.000 As Arizona goes, America goes.

00:05:31.000 Phoenix, Arizona.

00:05:33.000 Ballot paper shortage could cause problems on Election Day.

00:05:38.000 Oh, really, Nicole Motor and Devin Dwyer and Isabel Menenez?

00:05:43.000 We said this last week and we were accused on the Charlie Kirk show of being conspiracy theorists and QAnon and Charlie Kirk is spreading election misinformation.

00:05:53.000 And now ABC News says, oh, by the way, you might not have paper on Election Day.

00:05:58.000 I know a lot of you are saying, hey, Charlie, I'm going to show up on Election Day.

00:06:01.000 What guarantee they're going to have a ballot for you?

00:06:03.000 Well, now ABC News says, yeah, we might not have paper.

00:06:07.000 A tight supply of paper has left little room for error.

00:06:10.000 Yeah.

00:06:11.000 So, but by the way, who is going to use Election Day paper more disproportionately?

00:06:18.000 Trump America First Populist Nationalist voters, people like you.

00:06:22.000 Grassroots conservatives are the ones that are going to be showing up on Election Day.

00:06:26.000 And now ABC News says, yeah, there might not be any ballots.

00:06:30.000 A paper supply crunch is testing the preparedness of U.S. election officials and exposing a key vulnerability in America's democratic process as midterm voting gets underway.

00:06:41.000 The 2022 election cycle will use an estimated 30 million pounds of paper, according to industry experts.

00:06:47.000 Let me pause.

00:06:48.000 This has a couple kind of points here.

00:06:51.000 They're also trying to establish a narrative to go to digital voting and get rid of paper ballots.

00:06:58.000 Long term, they're going to use this as a precedent.

00:07:01.000 They're going to use this as a created mark of chaos to go towards all machines where you just push buttons and there's no paper.

00:07:11.000 This is a synthetically created crisis.

00:07:15.000 Just to understand how insane this is, Americans use way more paper than people realize.

00:07:21.000 For office and writing paper, each American uses around 660 pounds of paper per year.

00:07:26.000 That's equal to 660,000 sheets of generic printer paper.

00:07:31.000 Multiply that across the whole country.

00:07:33.000 We use 221 trillion pages of paper a year.

00:07:37.000 And now we're being told that we can't make a preference or make a priority, I should say, to have paper on Election Day?

00:07:49.000 Oh no, but we have plenty of paper to be able to print pornography in children's textbooks in their schools, but we don't have paper so that people can vote on Election Day.

00:07:58.000 No, they're just saying basically, look, it's a supply chain issue.

00:08:01.000 No, it's not.

00:08:03.000 Go figure it out.

00:08:04.000 Go pay more for paper if you need to.

00:08:06.000 Now, it's so funny.

00:08:07.000 They always say the Republicans are a threat to democracy.

00:08:09.000 Oh, really?

00:08:10.000 Who's actually the threat to our democracy, even though we're not a democracy?

00:08:14.000 Maybe the people that say you're not going to have paper on Election Day.

00:08:16.000 If you're watching in this audience, this should terrify you.

00:08:19.000 All across the country are Patriots in Wisconsin and in Pennsylvania and in North Carolina.

00:08:24.000 What if they run out of paper?

00:08:25.000 What if they run out of ink?

00:08:26.000 We said this, and that crook, Stephen Richer, who is running the Maricopa County elections, has been silent.

00:08:33.000 We've asked repeatedly, what assurances can you give us that you have the personnel, that you have the ink, that you have the paper to be able to facilitate a red wave on election day?

00:08:42.000 And it is silence.

00:08:45.000 This is what Ricky Hatch says in Utah.

00:08:48.000 This is the guy who's in charge of elections.

00:08:51.000 We're all just crossing our fingers and hoping that the supply chain works just fine.

00:08:58.000 Crossing our fingers.

00:09:01.000 But the Democrats aren't really worried about this because they would love to see Election Day shortages because that's going to hurt Republicans.

00:09:08.000 They would love to see same-day ink shortages, paper shortages, pipe bursts.

00:09:17.000 We're trying to tell you guys.

00:09:18.000 And if you're all of a sudden going to be caught up in this disaster in this circus, maybe voting early would have been a better option for you.

00:09:26.000 When you put all of your eggs in a single basket on Election Day, we are broadcasting to the enemy when we are going to vote, and therefore they're going to stack the deck to try to prevent us from being able to do it.

00:09:42.000 In Phoenix, Arizona, ABC News got an inside look at one of the nation's largest ballot producers, Runbeck Election Systems, which will deliver 50 million midterm ballots across 10 states, consuming more than 5 million pounds of paper.

00:09:55.000 Runbeck CEO, Jeff Ellington, said defense production authorization was granted with help of DHS cybersecurity and infrastructure security and the Commons Department, which has prioritized paper supply for this election.

00:10:08.000 The article continues: If we put an order for paper and Amazon put an order for paper, we're going to take precedence.

00:10:14.000 Well, I hope so.

00:10:16.000 And that has helped us make sure we have what we need.

00:10:21.000 Continues by saying, with early voting underway, there have been isolated reports of trouble.

00:10:26.000 In Arizona last week, Katie Hobbs, again, they don't even say Katie Hobbs in here, they say the Secretary of State. 0.96

00:10:31.000 ABC News is so freaking dishonest. 0.97

00:10:33.000 So dishonest. 0.95

00:10:34.000 Secretary of State discovered, yeah, discovered that 6,000 mail-in ballots had been sent out that were printed with major errors requiring a second print and more paper.

00:10:44.000 This is a looming problem, everybody.

00:10:47.000 If we're all going to vote on Election Day, we're broadcasting how we're going to take back power from them.

00:10:53.000 So they're just going to say we ran out of paper, ran out of ink, we ran out of people, we ran out of places.

00:10:57.000 This is a huge problem, and no one, not enough people are talking about it.

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00:12:06.000 Look, I am a game day guy.

00:12:08.000 I'm going to show up in person on Election Day.

00:12:12.000 I know many of you will join me.

00:12:14.000 But what I'm trying to anticipate now that we are 12 days out.

00:12:19.000 Can you believe it?

00:12:20.000 12 days out for the midterms.

00:12:22.000 What do these people potentially have up their sleeve?

00:12:25.000 What else they have left?

00:12:26.000 I mean, again, I'm going to talk about some of the polling in a second because I actually think that there is an inverse suppression poll happening.

00:12:35.000 It's actually very paradoxical.

00:12:36.000 We're going to talk about that in just a second because the pollsters are now trying to totally retreat and change their modeling.

00:12:44.000 And I think they're actually intentionally overcompensating, almost to try to change the Vegas line, if you will.

00:12:50.000 I'm going to explain that argument in just a second.

00:12:53.000 However, if we do not have the basic infrastructure to facilitate presidential-style turnout in person, there's no going back once the polls close.

00:13:05.000 You just can't go back and be like, oh, I'd like to file my taxes late.

00:13:10.000 You know, the thing with voting, it's very different than most other things in life.

00:13:14.000 People say, oh, I could just be a couple days late on my taxes or a month late.

00:13:17.000 Well, that's not a good idea.

00:13:18.000 Don't do that either.

00:13:19.000 Or I could pay the credit card bill a little bit at a time.

00:13:23.000 It is very dramatic how Election Day ends.

00:13:27.000 There is no going back.

00:13:28.000 There is no going to a judge being like, hey, I'd like to go back and vote.

00:13:33.000 Sorry, I got busy that day.

00:13:35.000 And all of you know this.

00:13:36.000 I'm not saying anything that isn't self-evident and something that isn't well known.

00:13:40.000 But the point is that if there are any problems on game day, then by definition, once the polls close, there is no ability to reverse that.

00:13:50.000 And so we need to anticipate this and we need to keep the pressure on.

00:13:54.000 So someone says here, Charlie, this is a lie about paper shortage.

00:13:58.000 We have been hearing about this paper shortage problem since July 2021.

00:14:03.000 There's no excuse whatsoever in all caps for any state or polling place to run out of ballots on Election Day.

00:14:08.000 We are a week away from the election.

00:14:10.000 They know they're in big trouble and this is their newest way to cheat.

00:14:13.000 Just say there are no ballots and blame the paper shortage.

00:14:16.000 You need to spread the word.

00:14:17.000 This is a bold-faced lie.

00:14:18.000 Well, I am spreading the word.

00:14:19.000 I'm the only one that I know of that's talking about this.

00:14:22.000 I mean, they ran out.

00:14:24.000 Again, some people in the audience might say, oh, Charlie, you're kind of, you're on shaky ground here.

00:14:30.000 This is not substantiated.

00:14:31.000 What happened in the Arizona Republican primary in Pinal County, they ran out of Republican ballots.

00:14:40.000 They ran out.

00:14:41.000 They just said, oh, sorry, we ran out of ballots.

00:14:43.000 Now, in this case, just to understand how silly and how third world Arizona elections are conducted, they have to print ballots on Election Day.

00:14:55.000 And let me just be very clear.

00:14:57.000 If you can't get enough paper to facilitate an election, what are you using the paper for that could potentially be more important?

00:15:07.000 Publishing copies of Nicole Hanna-Jones 1619 project?

00:15:10.000 We could probably put that on hold for a little bit.

00:15:14.000 This is all a bunch of nonsense.

00:15:16.000 This is a manufactured media narrative for two things, to potentially prevent same-day voting and the MAGA wave that is looming.

00:15:26.000 And the second thing is to try to then make the argument to go to digital voting and purely machine voting, which would be a big mistake.

00:15:35.000 That doesn't allow auditing, recounts, and transparency.

00:15:39.000 Okay, in just a minute, we have Andy Biggs joining the program.

00:15:42.000 But I do want to just make this point.

00:15:43.000 I don't have enough time to really build it out.

00:15:45.000 But yesterday, there was a poll that was published that showed Kerry Lake up 11 points on Katie Hobbs.

00:15:53.000 11 points.

00:15:54.000 And I had the exact opposite reaction of what you might expect.

00:16:00.000 You might say, well, Charlie, were you celebrating?

00:16:01.000 No, I was terrified.

00:16:03.000 I trust these pollsters so little.

00:16:06.000 I trust the media.

00:16:08.000 I don't trust them at all.

00:16:10.000 And so now we are seeing, in my personal opinion, and we'll build this out throughout the hour, a flurry now of inflated polls to make Republicans look better than I think they're actually even doing.

00:16:23.000 To make us overly confident, to make people not show up in big numbers.

00:16:27.000 This is the last trick they have in addition to running out of paper.

00:16:31.000 If you believe the media is corrupt and an instrument of the regime, then it is fair to say that the administration and publicizing of polls near an election would be used for a specific purpose, especially alarming ones where all of a sudden we are now seeing a flurry of polls that I'll be honest that are too good to be true.

00:16:58.000 I think Kerry Lake is winning.

00:16:59.000 I do.

00:17:00.000 Up 11 points.

00:17:01.000 That feels like a paradoxical suppression poll.

00:17:05.000 Things are so good.

00:17:06.000 Why do I need to vote?

00:17:07.000 Why do I need to knock on doors?

00:17:08.000 Why do I need to get my friends out to vote?

00:17:10.000 It's the last trick they have.

00:17:12.000 And it raises the expectation.

00:17:14.000 So for example, if Kerry Lake only wins by three, they'll say, well, Katie Hobbs overperformed the polls.

00:17:20.000 It's the same as like, well, they lost to Alabama, but they beat the line.

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00:18:47.000 I want to clarify something before we welcome the great Andy Biggs to our program.

00:18:51.000 I keep on talking about Republican ballots in Pinal County, and people are getting very confused about this.

00:18:58.000 And so understandably, I didn't do a good enough job of explaining it.

00:19:01.000 That was the primary.

00:19:03.000 So in a primary election, which happened in early August, you can then choose if you want to vote in the Republican primary or the Democrat primary.

00:19:12.000 In the general election, everybody gets the same ballot.

00:19:16.000 Now, you might get a different ballot based on where you live because there's Scottsdale referendums versus Chandler referendums versus Mesa referendums, stuff like that, or city council or whatever.

00:19:25.000 However, the point I'm making is the vast majority of day of election voters are Republican voters.

00:19:34.000 I'm talking 60, 70, 80% of people in some precincts of the people that show up and vote on Election Day are Republicans.

00:19:44.000 People that vote early tend to be a little bit more moderate, independent, maybe center right.

00:19:49.000 People that vote by mail, disproportionately Democrat, unless you live in Sun City or that part of Arizona, which is a more elderly population, there's a lot of mail-in voting there.

00:20:01.000 Okay, joining us now is Andy Biggs.

00:20:03.000 Andy Biggs is one of the most conservative members of Congress.

00:20:07.000 He represents Arizona very well, and he is in an alarmingly close race, kind of coming out of nowhere against a total fraud, someone who is very similar to Evan McMuffin McMullen running in Utah.

00:20:21.000 This seems to be a new theme that they're trying out to run people.

00:20:27.000 And I don't want to religilize this in any way, but it seems to be LDS on LDS and trying to persuade and convince voters.

00:20:36.000 This guy's Clint Smith.

00:20:37.000 He's awful, trying to run up against you, Andy Biggs.

00:20:39.000 Andy, welcome to the program.

00:20:40.000 Walk us through what's going on.

00:20:42.000 Hey, Charlie, I was good to be with you.

00:20:44.000 Yeah, I mean, this is, I know people find this hard to believe, but there was actually in Gilbert, Mesa, Arizona, a little group called the Mormons for Biden, right?

00:20:55.000 I mean, last election.

00:20:57.000 So that's kind of what you got going on.

00:20:59.000 And this is the same group, and it's the Mitt Romney wing of LDS voters.

00:21:06.000 And so Evan McMullen running against Mike Lee in Utah.

00:21:10.000 That's really astonishing to me.

00:21:14.000 But in my race, you've got this guy and you got the Democrats.

00:21:18.000 So you've got the traditional Democrat, and then you've got this other guy, this guy who doesn't live in the district, by the way, Charlie.

00:21:26.000 And he's out there pitching.

00:21:28.000 And turns out that he's trying to out leftist the Democrat in this race.

00:21:35.000 And what can you say?

00:21:38.000 I go out there and I think we're going to win, Charlie.

00:21:41.000 It's just how much are we going to win by?

00:21:43.000 And, you know, I'm a big fighter, so I want to win big.

00:21:46.000 And that's important.

00:21:48.000 Yeah.

00:21:49.000 And so this is kind of a new strategy where these kind of they position themselves as independents.

00:21:56.000 And you go to his website, Clint Smith's website.

00:21:59.000 It's very similar to McMuffin-McMullen, where they have all these platitudes of working together and being a fair and independent voice and almost trying to appeal to people's better angels almost, when in reality, these people would be part of the Democrat Party.

00:22:13.000 Is that right?

00:22:14.000 Well, yeah, but you know what's weird about it?

00:22:16.000 Both McMullen and Clint here, they've basically revealed that they don't know anything how Congress works.

00:22:23.000 So they say, so in one of our forums, our debate, my opponent said, hey, look, I'm not going to confer with the Republicans or the Democrats.

00:22:34.000 Well, okay, you know what that means then, that you'll get no committee assignments and you're not going to be given debate time on the floor.

00:22:40.000 You're going to have to go down in the middle of the night when the floor is open to anybody because neither party is going to give up a committee seat or debate time to somebody who's not part of their group who is helping them out.

00:22:56.000 So he's going to be in Own Island.

00:22:59.000 I mean, nothing will get done from this guy.

00:23:02.000 And that's what they don't understand that.

00:23:04.000 And it's astonishing, quite frankly, this notion of where they don't know anything.

00:23:12.000 I mean, just they flat out don't know anything about how this works.

00:23:16.000 Yeah, I, I mean, I love the LDS community and some of my closest friends are LDS and I work with the LDS closely.

00:23:22.000 And I think that in the LDS world, and maybe you could help, you know, explain this for our listeners, Andy, there is this kind of demand of decency in our politics, right?

00:23:31.000 And, you know, not a huge fan of Trump's tone.

00:23:33.000 And I think that was a common complaint.

00:23:35.000 I think that's fair to say, right?

00:23:36.000 And so kind of piggybacking off of that, there seems to be a more sinister campaign, though, right?

00:23:43.000 Which is now to take non-LDS values packaged in a quote-unquote nice guy, you know, independent voice, right?

00:23:51.000 A vessel, if you will, where now you have a guy who's basically pro-abortion.

00:23:56.000 I mean, he says on his website, the quote-unquote independent running against you, he says, I think life is sacred, but I also think privacy and freedom is sacred.

00:24:04.000 I mean, is that an LDS value?

00:24:06.000 No, I mean, I always thought that we were, we were, we thought life came from God.

00:24:12.000 It was designed by God.

00:24:14.000 We believe, you know, like everything from life to gender.

00:24:18.000 We think that there's two genders, male and female, and all those things that are what people would say they're traditional values.

00:24:26.000 I mean, that was what we believe.

00:24:28.000 That is what I believe.

00:24:30.000 And so that's why I say I think he's trying to outleft the left.

00:24:34.000 And you're right.

00:24:35.000 It's kind of this package of, hey, I'm a sweet guy and people shouldn't be mean to me, even though I'm going to go out and lie about Andy Biggs.

00:24:45.000 Okay.

00:24:46.000 That's really what's happening, Charlie.

00:24:48.000 This is the old, I'm perfectly tolerant unless you disagree with me, then I'll be intolerant.

00:24:53.000 And I'm like, well, what's the beef with me?

00:24:55.000 I mean, my district, they agree with the policies that I advocate for in Congress.

00:25:01.000 I've been consistent, open, and transparent of that.

00:25:04.000 So what's the deal then?

00:25:05.000 I mean, you go out and lie and say things that are just blatantly untrue.

00:25:09.000 In fact, not only the untrue, if I wasn't a political candidate, they would be defamatory and actionable.

00:25:16.000 So I find, well, okay, Charlie, I just keep going along and doing my deal because it is important that there be somebody who's above the fray, who's honest and consistent, says what he's going to do and does what he says he's going to do.

00:25:31.000 Well, you are that person.

00:25:32.000 You're full of integrity and honesty.

00:25:34.000 And I don't say that about a lot of people.

00:25:36.000 You do a wonderful job in D.C.

00:25:38.000 And so this weirdo Clint made a video about us attacking Turning Point PAC and Turning Point Action because our team decided to throw a couple fastballs and kind of educate the population, if you will, about this guy, calling us white nationalists and white supremacists.

00:25:56.000 I don't know.

00:25:56.000 I'm not a candidate.

00:25:57.000 So maybe I'll sue.

00:25:58.000 Play cut 121. 0.94

00:26:01.000 Here's the latest pathetic, desperate attack on me and my church from Turning Point PAC. 0.99

00:26:09.000 These are the same white nationalists who are anti-American, who want to use intimidation tactics to try to get their way. 0.99

00:26:17.000 It's the same people that are down there at the polling booths trying to intimidate voters. 0.50

00:26:22.000 This needs to stop.

00:26:24.000 I did not bring the church into this.

00:26:26.000 These guys did.

00:26:27.000 These are the same people that formed Mormons for Trump a couple of years ago. 0.65

00:26:31.000 They're the ones that bring religion and I did not. 1.00

00:26:34.000 And I think it's despicable.

00:26:36.000 Yeah, well, that's a pretty weak-hearted attack calling me a white nationalist.

00:26:40.000 He's all over the place.

00:26:42.000 But it is important to re-emphasize, though, Andy, that the broader national audience knows that the LDS population, awesome people, socially conservative, pro-American, pro-freedom, pro-liberty.

00:26:56.000 There is kind of this splinter campaign.

00:26:58.000 And I think it's being, I don't know who's funding it, but you kind of have this divide where we have rock stars like you.

00:27:03.000 We have rock stars like Mike Lee.

00:27:06.000 And then we have people like Jeff Flake and people like Evan McMuffin McMullen.

00:27:11.000 I think he's LDS.

00:27:12.000 And then Mitt Romney.

00:27:13.000 Yeah.

00:27:14.000 And so you kind of have this divide.

00:27:16.000 And it's very important for the future of America, for the future of our values, right?

00:27:20.000 That this gets kind of a fair hearing, would you say?

00:27:25.000 Yeah, I mean, the reality of what happens, Charlie, is there's a misperception, even within our church membership.

00:27:36.000 I mean, we're not monolithic.

00:27:38.000 Let me just say that.

00:27:39.000 The LDS church has never been monolithic.

00:27:41.000 There are Democrat members of the church.

00:27:44.000 There are independents and libertarians, and there's conservatives and Republicans.

00:27:48.000 It's not monolithic.

00:27:49.000 And I think the outside world looking in and says, oh, they're all monolithic, but we're really not.

00:27:54.000 And the frame that you just said kind of gets to it.

00:27:57.000 I mean, you've got this, the Mitt Romney wing kind of weak.

00:28:02.000 By the way, Mitt Romney is the only U.S. senator that has not come out in support of only Republican U.S. senator that has not come out in support of Mike Lee.

00:28:12.000 That just tells you all you need to know, not about Mike Lee, but about Mitt Romney, because the McMullen camp says, oh, he doesn't work well with the others.

00:28:22.000 Every Republican senator except for Mitt Romney supports him, which tells you that Mike's respected and he's valued for his incredible intellect, his integrity, his articulate defense of Republican conservative principles.

00:28:38.000 But then you have these other groups that kind of splinter off and they go and they want to, I'm not even sure what their motivation is, actually.

00:28:48.000 But Mitt Romney, I guess, was hurt because he did lobby to become Secretary of State to President Trump, but President Trump picks somebody else.

00:29:00.000 And so that really must have upset him.

00:29:04.000 And I think that some of this is just personal animus that some of these people have.

00:29:08.000 It's the Trump derangement syndrome manifests within some members of our church, I suppose.

00:29:15.000 So, Andy, shifting gears just more broadly, I'm very worried that we might run out of paper ballots on Election Day in Arizona.

00:29:21.000 And we saw that in Pinal County with Republican ballots.

00:29:24.000 And now ABC News reporting live from Phoenix says ballot paper shortage could cause problems on Election Day.

00:29:30.000 This looks like election interference, potential suppression of our voters.

00:29:33.000 One minute remaining.

00:29:34.000 What are your thoughts?

00:29:35.000 Yeah, it is.

00:29:36.000 When you start putting out fear-mongering like that, you will actually suppress some people from even showing up.

00:29:42.000 And that is the meddling that the left always accuses the right of doing, but it's always the left that's doing this.

00:29:50.000 So I just tell these county recorders they really need to make sure their acts together, get all the ballots ready and go and make sure there's sufficient ballots because you're going to have a big election day turnout this time, Charlie.

00:30:03.000 Normally, a lot of people will vote.

00:30:05.000 80% or more will vote in the mail.

00:30:08.000 They're voting in person this time.

00:30:09.000 Yeah, I don't trust Stephen Richer. 0.97

00:30:11.000 I think he's a crook and he's a bad guy and he has done a lot of damage.

00:30:15.000 And, you know, look, this is now ABC News saying we might not have the ink. 0.98

00:30:19.000 We might not have the paper.

00:30:21.000 We might not have the personnel.

00:30:22.000 Andy, this is a very big concern.

00:30:24.000 How could people support you, Andy, as you're in this race up against the snake?

00:30:28.000 20 seconds.

00:30:29.000 BigsforCongress.com.

00:30:32.000 That's where you go.

00:30:34.000 We have lots of volunteers walking regularly, working at our campaign office, calling.

00:30:40.000 Just if you have time, want to volunteer, that's where you go.

00:30:43.000 If you have some donations you want to help, bigsforcongress.com.

00:30:47.000 Very good.

00:30:47.000 Andy, thank you so much.

00:30:48.000 Good luck.

00:30:49.000 We're behind you 100%.

00:30:50.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:30:53.000 This seems to be like an intentional supply chain issue when it comes to the most critical thing to be able to cast a ballot on election day.

00:31:03.000 This fear-mongering very well might impact turnout.

00:31:08.000 The article continues in ABC News that the operational predictability is not very good.

00:31:15.000 We have to kind of guess how many voters might vote this way and then have to place orders.

00:31:21.000 It's not realistic to think that the problem is solved.

00:31:23.000 It's not.

00:31:24.000 The ballot printing vendors have already made it clear to us that this is going to be a persistent problem and something we need to figure out.

00:31:34.000 A persistent problem.

00:31:36.000 Could you imagine if an article was written saying that they might run low on ballots in black neighborhoods?

00:31:44.000 Could you imagine?

00:31:47.000 The people that are most likely to vote on Election Day are Republican, conservative people that don't trust mail-in voting, and they prefer not to vote in person early voting.

00:31:59.000 That's the key, in-person early voting.

00:32:02.000 It's a very, very big concern here.

00:32:04.000 We're getting a lot of emails, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:32:08.000 To Democrats, chances are there will be a shortage of paper ballots because this election will be a landslide for the Republican Party.

00:32:13.000 We suggest you stay home with your family and don't waste your time voting, right?

00:32:17.000 Warning to Democrats.

00:32:19.000 We're going to continue on this topic, but I want to elaborate the one where I didn't really have enough time to get into, which is the polls.

00:32:26.000 And I think these two things come together, which is there are only a few tricks left.

00:32:32.000 And having been doing this for almost 11 years now and studying from some of the great minds of political commentary, Rush Limbaugh and others, when it gets close to an election, Democrats get desperate.

00:32:44.000 They use social media to tilt the scale.

00:32:46.000 They suppress stories.

00:32:49.000 They use law enforcement, all these different things.

00:32:52.000 They say that they're going to run out of paper.

00:32:54.000 And the one that is the most effective is polls.

00:32:59.000 So I do believe that Democrats know they're going to lose.

00:33:02.000 I think that is starting to set in.

00:33:06.000 So if you know you are going to lose, if you know that there are headwinds that you're not going to be able to withstand, if you know that Republicans have serious momentum, wouldn't it make sense to then raise the expectation to say, well, we're to make people think that they're going to lose by 15, and then all of a sudden you actually lose by five, and it looks like you did a lot better than one would have expected.

00:33:31.000 There's a hidden Dobbs vote.

00:33:32.000 So what I think is happening here is a couple of things.

00:33:35.000 I think these overly inflated polls that are suddenly and shockingly showing Republicans in a certain direction have, of course, some truth to them, has a grain of truth.

00:33:45.000 As Politico says, pollsters fear they're blowing it again in 2022.

00:33:49.000 I do believe the trend is legitimately in the Republican direction.

00:33:55.000 And in some ways, I am the worst offender of what I am talking about here.

00:33:59.000 Because for those of you that listen to this program, I'm always talking about poll here and poll there and poll here.

00:34:03.000 I fully acknowledge that.

00:34:05.000 But I am now going to kind of put some breaks on my own commentary.

00:34:13.000 I'm going to put some breaks on my ownness and try to take a step back.

00:34:15.000 I'm a contrarian by nature.

00:34:17.000 It's kind of who I am.

00:34:20.000 And the one poll in particular that just got me to stop everything I was doing and to say, okay, now we're going to have to adjust some of this is the Arizona Fox 10 Insider Advantage poll that showed Kerry Lake up 11 points.

00:34:38.000 However, there was another series of polls that got me thinking.

00:34:42.000 And these polls were actually commissioned by Democrat firms.

00:34:48.000 That's right, Democrat firms.

00:34:51.000 So there's an organization called Data for Progress.

00:34:54.000 And Data for Progress is a Democrat polling firm.

00:34:59.000 And their polls almost always skew Democrat.

00:35:02.000 So there's two explanations to this data.

00:35:05.000 Number one, the wave is so big, it's so monumental that regardless of how you screw with your polling configurations, you can't hide it.

00:35:15.000 Or the Democrats are trying to show Republicans up by more than what the actual accurate data would show to suppress Republican turnout and to raise the standard.

00:35:26.000 For example, if the standard is that Republicans are going to win 50 seats and Republicans win 10 seats, who wins the narrative the next day?

00:35:37.000 If the narrative going into election day is, well, Republicans are expected to win three seats in the Senate and we win one, who gets to take the victory lap?

00:35:45.000 Yeah, Republicans do sort of, but then Democrats can say, we did a lot better in the face of misinformation and disinformation, and it's always hard.

00:35:52.000 And then they actually get to save a lot of face with their donors, their activists, and with the media.

00:35:56.000 What I'm saying is an artificial setting of the standard.

00:35:59.000 Said differently for all of you college football fans out there.

00:36:04.000 It's like when West Tennessee Community College goes and visits Alabama for a game and the line is set at 65 points and they lose by 30 and they say, well, they beat the line by 30 points, even though they lost the game.

00:36:18.000 It's still a win in the sense of, well, the betters were off.

00:36:21.000 The odds makers were totally incorrect.

00:36:24.000 And so these Democrat polls are showing Carrie Lake up four, Ron DeSantis up 12.

00:36:32.000 Data for Progress shows Michael's up one, Sununu up 13.

00:36:37.000 These are Democrat published polls.

00:36:41.000 Now, there is a chance they're correct.

00:36:43.000 There is a chance that, in fact, I actually think that they're very well.

00:36:46.000 If the trend continues, this could manifest there.

00:36:48.000 But boy, I'm trying to warn everybody in our audience.

00:36:51.000 You got to get the word out that as if there's suppression polls over the summer to try to have you not donate to certain candidates.

00:36:58.000 I think that there are suppression polls right now that are trying to have you think that victory is guaranteed.

00:37:06.000 Not to knock on that extra door, not to get your extra friend to go vote, not to get people out to the polls.

00:37:11.000 They learned this in 16.

00:37:12.000 So they're trying to overcompensate where they say, what if we tell Republicans that they're actually leading by a lot?

00:37:19.000 And then therefore we're not going to see that momentous red wave.

00:37:21.000 Yeah, you're upset about inflation.

00:37:22.000 You're upset about crime.

00:37:23.000 People are going to be complacent.

00:37:24.000 People are going to be busy.

00:37:25.000 People just watch from afar.

00:37:27.000 You got to play like you're two points behind everybody.

00:37:30.000 You got to act as if we are losing.

00:37:33.000 And again, it is tempting, and I am the worst offender of this to just stare at the polls, stare at the poll, stare at the poll.

00:37:38.000 What's the latest poll was?

00:37:39.000 Let's poll.

00:37:39.000 What's the trend?

00:37:39.000 What's the, I get it.

00:37:41.000 For those of us that are involved in politics, you just get obsessed about it.

00:37:45.000 We've got to break away from it.

00:37:46.000 We've got to get back to the fundamentals.

00:37:48.000 How many doors are we knocking on?

00:37:49.000 What's the message?

00:37:50.000 What are the crowds you're doing?

00:37:52.000 Who's showing up?

00:37:54.000 How are you handling the media?

00:37:56.000 All these different things.

00:37:57.000 Do you have them aligned correctly?

00:38:00.000 The trend is our friend, but be wary, everybody, of fake, synthetic, artificial polls that are then inserted into the media narrative for a designed and specific political purpose.

00:38:13.000 And at this point, I think they're trying to artificially set the standard.

00:38:17.000 So when Democrats, when we do okay but not excellent, they say, well, we withstood a red wave.

00:38:23.000 Look how awesome we are.

00:38:24.000 Be vigilant.

00:38:25.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:38:27.000 Email me your thoughts as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.

00:38:29.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:38:31.000 God bless.

00:38:34.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - October 27, 2022

Inflated Polls and Ballot Paper Shortages? with Congressman Andy Biggs

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