The Charlie Kirk Show - Introducing the New Border Czar: Tom Homan

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, 10 to Charlie Kirk Show.

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00:01:25.000 We are broadcasting live from Palm Beach.

00:01:27.000 It seems as if it is the center of the galaxy here in sunny southern Florida.

00:01:34.000 I just want to remind everybody here, something very important.

00:01:39.000 If it is not on Donald Trump's Truth Social, It's not yet true.

00:01:44.000 Now, it might be true.

00:01:46.000 However, it's not yet true.

00:01:47.000 A lot of people are catawalling over the evening about someone is getting this position.

00:01:52.000 If it's not on Donald Trump's Truth Social, the decision has not been finalized.

00:01:58.000 Someone might be leaking it.

00:01:59.000 Somebody might want that job.

00:02:01.000 Someone might be leaking it because they think they have the job or they think it's a way to try to get the job if they leak it.

00:02:08.000 So just keep an eye on Donald Trump's Truth Social.

00:02:11.000 Again, some of the reporting can be fun.

00:02:13.000 It can be accurate.

00:02:14.000 But just keep your eye closely on that.

00:02:18.000 There's an outrageous story that is bubbling up here.

00:02:21.000 And if it is real, and I believe it is real because we have evidence from the last administration that is correct.

00:02:25.000 This is why the transition is so important.

00:02:28.000 This is why we've moved our entire operation down to Florida to try to help any way we can.

00:02:35.000 The government is already voicing to the media that they will undermine Donald Trump if he were to make decisions that they do not like.

00:02:46.000 According to CNN and MSNBC, CNN has a story That has not been independently verified by NBC News, which add that, quote, defense officials have held, quote, informal discussions about how the DOD would respond if Donald Trump issues orders to deploy active duty troops domestically and fire large swaths of apolitical staffers.

00:03:08.000 The commander-in-chief has the right to fire anybody he wants in the federal government, let alone the Department of Defense.

00:03:14.000 He is the commander-in-chief.

00:03:16.000 He is the top of the United States military.

00:03:19.000 It could not be more explicit.

00:03:22.000 Now, many of you think we have three branches of government, but the fight now, now that we won the election, the fight in front of us is not just about winning elections.

00:03:32.000 It's what is the form of government we are going to have.

00:03:34.000 And we have two options.

00:03:36.000 The first option is that we'll continue this super government of administrative unelected bureaucrats, or we will restore the form and the structure and the promise and the intent of the founding fathers.

00:03:50.000 We have civilian control of the military for a reason.

00:03:53.000 Blake is making some very, very good points here.

00:03:55.000 I think we have Blake here.

00:03:56.000 I want to have him chime in in a second.

00:03:58.000 Elected leaders run the military.

00:04:01.000 You see, we do not have a military junta that runs the United States of America.

00:04:05.000 We have a civilian control of the military.

00:04:09.000 Why is that important?

00:04:10.000 Well, in third world dictatorships, the military just controls the country because they have the weapons, they have the guns, they have the tanks, they have the drones, they have the missiles.

00:04:17.000 So we're in charge, the military says.

00:04:19.000 But no, the founders were so smart, they said, no, we can't just have a bunch of generals running the country because that's bad.

00:04:26.000 And they're not accountable to the people.

00:04:29.000 So we put the people's representative, the president, in charge of...

00:04:35.000 The United States military.

00:04:36.000 When defense staffers think that they have the right to ignore a president, that is mutiny, and it can only be responded by firing them immediately.

00:04:46.000 These unelected staffers in the Pentagon They did not win an election.

00:04:52.000 They did not campaign and get elected by people.

00:04:54.000 But they want the people at the Pentagon, they want Donald Trump to play president on TV and allow the administrative state to run the government.

00:05:04.000 And this is the tension that is unfolding right in front of us, everybody.

00:05:07.000 This is the game that is unfolding right in front of us.

00:05:10.000 Which direction are we going to take?

00:05:12.000 Will Donald Trump be able to fulfill the mandate?

00:05:14.000 Or are we going to go the way where Donald Trump is swallowed and enveloped and suffocated by an unelected, unaccountable fourth branch of government?

00:05:23.000 Trump has the legitimacy to run the U.S. government.

00:05:26.000 Now, mind you, when you defy a commander-in-chief, it could very well be treason.

00:05:33.000 And now Trump has a mandate to take the reins of this fourth branch of government and to restore us back to our constitutional intent.

00:05:40.000 But it is going to be a battle.

00:05:42.000 From the intel community, from the National Security Advisor, to the National Security Agency, they're going to spy on Trump.

00:05:48.000 They're going to listen to every single phone call Trump has.

00:05:51.000 They're going to bug Trump's office.

00:05:53.000 They're going to do all that stuff.

00:05:54.000 And so from day one, we need to rip that thing down to first principles.

00:05:59.000 And anticipate that this is going to be a 15-round battle against the intel agencies.

00:06:05.000 Remember what Chuck U. Schumer said.

00:06:06.000 Let's get the Chuck Schumer clip.

00:06:11.000 The intel agencies have six ways from Sunday to get back at you.

00:06:15.000 And that's why these selections are so critically important.

00:06:18.000 President Trump is off to a terrific start.

00:06:21.000 Blake is with us.

00:06:22.000 Blake, say hello to everybody.

00:06:24.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:06:25.000 So, Blake, talk about the profound constitutional importance of having a citizen-led military.

00:06:31.000 You're exactly right, Charlie.

00:06:33.000 It's going all the way back.

00:06:35.000 One of the most important and underrated things that George Washington ever did was after he wins the Revolutionary War, he just resigns and he goes home.

00:06:43.000 War's done. 0.53

00:06:44.000 It was the Congress at the time.

00:06:45.000 They were in control of the military.

00:06:47.000 And that was one of the most important precedents that was set in the Constitution.

00:06:51.000 The elected politician-civilian president is the explicit commander-in-chief of the armed forces.

00:07:00.000 We've repeatedly had that tested. 1.00

00:07:02.000 During the Civil War, you would have these generals who would think Lincoln was an idiot. 1.00

00:07:06.000 He didn't know what he was doing. 1.00

00:07:07.000 You even had some insane ones who would say, like, things would be so much better if we had the military running Washington.

00:07:13.000 It never happened.

00:07:14.000 You had the senior generals who would shut this down and they would say, we are fighting to have a civilian control of the military.

00:07:21.000 And now we have these bureaucratic urchins in Washington who are – they're literally saying, oh, what if Trump – what if he fires our career apolitical staffers?

00:07:33.000 Well, as we've seen the last few years, one of the problems with the Pentagon is a lot of the apolitical people are not very apolitical.

00:07:40.000 They have their own agendas.

00:07:41.000 They think they have the right to set U.S. foreign policy, U.S. surveillance policy, U.S. military policy.

00:07:48.000 They don't.

00:07:49.000 The United States president gets to set those things.

00:07:51.000 And if they're going to stand in the way of the U.S. president setting those things, they need to be shoved aside.

00:07:56.000 And if they're going to try to resist him in any more formal manner, that's not just a matter of you should be fired.

00:08:02.000 In some cases, it's going to be a matter of you should be court-martialed for it.

00:08:06.000 Let's play this tape here.

00:08:07.000 Remember, this was Chuck Schumer right during the Trump transition.

00:08:10.000 Everybody, the bad guys are trying to recreate 2017 all over again.

00:08:14.000 They're trying to recreate where Donald Trump is not the elected sovereign president.

00:08:18.000 And if we are not flawless, there is no margin of error for us to be able to thread this needle right into January 20th, then the intel agency is going to win.

00:08:26.000 It's the intel community right now that is plotting against Donald Trump.

00:08:30.000 The NSA, the Central Intelligence Agency, the FBI, the Department of Justice, the Department of Defense, the Pentagon, they're leaving little landmines for Donald Trump all around the government right now.

00:08:42.000 This is exactly what Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us of.

00:08:45.000 And Donald Trump won a mandate to fight all of this.

00:08:47.000 And it is going to be a battle.

00:08:49.000 That's why all of you, yes, keep celebrating.

00:08:51.000 We're going to keep on enjoying this.

00:08:53.000 But understand what is coming ahead of us.

00:08:55.000 That the forces are being marshaled to try to subvert Donald Trump, undermine him, and prevent his presidency from getting started.

00:09:06.000 To stop it right out of the gate.

00:09:08.000 When you devote so much of your budget and your national attention to the defense industry, the powers inside that establishment calcify and get corrupted over decades.

00:09:20.000 Play cut 365.

00:09:21.000 If you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you. 0.99

00:09:26.000 So, even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he's being really dumb to do this. 0.69

00:09:32.000 What do you think the intelligence community would do if they were... 0.93

00:09:35.000 I don't know, but from what I am told, they are very upset with how he has treated them and talked about them.

00:09:42.000 That was a threat.

00:09:43.000 And remember, they made good on that threat.

00:09:45.000 Russiagate and the entrapment of Lieutenant General Michael Flynn six days into the first Trump administration was foreshadowed on that clip.

00:09:54.000 Everyone, we have to be on our guard right now.

00:09:58.000 Because the intel community is not just going to roll over and hand the keys to the kingdom of Donald Trump.

00:10:02.000 There'll be little surprises.

00:10:04.000 Left for every single Trump staffer.

00:10:07.000 Blackmail files.

00:10:08.000 Listening on phone calls.

00:10:10.000 That's why fulfilling the mandate is so critically important.

00:10:13.000 And I'm not speculating.

00:10:14.000 This is a CNN report of Pentagon officials saying we are going to undermine the president.

00:10:21.000 That we're in charge, not you.

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00:11:15.000 Okay, so tomorrow is the Senate Majority Leader Selection.

00:11:19.000 And The people in the running are John Thune, John Cornyn, and Rick Scott.

00:11:27.000 Now, if you combine them all together, there are big differences between all of them.

00:11:33.000 Rick Scott, obviously, I hope he wins.

00:11:35.000 I don't know if he'll be able to get the votes.

00:11:36.000 He's definitely surging in the momentum.

00:11:36.000 We'll see.

00:11:40.000 However...

00:11:41.000 The United States Senate, they've been leaking stories back at us, those of us that have been pushing Rick Scott, basically saying, oh no, we won't be bullied into being told what to do.

00:11:51.000 Wait a second, so you won't listen to your voters?

00:11:54.000 You won't listen to what the voters want and what they are demanding?

00:12:01.000 The United States Senate is not some sort of super government that is immune from the will of the people.

00:12:08.000 Elections are not bullying.

00:12:10.000 And this goes back to the fundamental point that we talked about in the first segment, where can the military subvert and undermine the will of the American people?

00:12:25.000 This is exactly what Dwight D. Eisenhower warned against.

00:12:28.000 An unelected, technocratic, scientific elite.

00:12:31.000 Is it we the people or we the bureaucrats?

00:12:34.000 This is why, even though we do not have a president right now, we have Joe Biden who's not a president, You don't really notice because Joe Biden's not writing anything.

00:12:42.000 He's a ceremonial role who eats ice cream and sits on a beach.

00:12:45.000 That's it.

00:12:47.000 The real power is in the unelected Play cuts 363 from CNN. Look, I don't like this because what's Donald Trump supposed to think?

00:12:58.000 You know, he's sitting down there, he's the president-elect, and now he's got to read in the newspaper tonight that the unelected bureaucracy of the federal government is having meetings at some level about how to thwart or countermand the commander-in-chief.

00:13:11.000 If you were in his shoes and you just won the popular vote with a clear mandate and now you've got to read that these unelected bureaucrats are plotting against you, What would you think?

00:13:22.000 But I think there's a reason for that, though.

00:13:24.000 Well, I agree that that's maybe not the best way to do it.

00:13:26.000 However, Trump has set them up to be in this situation where they think that he's coming after them.

00:13:31.000 And he's talked about using the military.

00:13:33.000 He's the president.

00:13:35.000 Yes.

00:13:36.000 Yes, but do you see that?

00:13:38.000 That's Gretchen who used to be on Fox News. 1.00

00:13:40.000 Oh, he deserves it.

00:13:42.000 He deserves to be undermined. 0.95

00:13:44.000 He deserves to be leaked against, smeared.

00:13:47.000 He deserves to have his orders not fulfilled.

00:13:51.000 So who is the boss here?

00:13:52.000 And by the way, if you don't like working for Donald Trump, then go resign.

00:13:56.000 Just go resign.

00:13:56.000 Go write your own book.

00:13:58.000 But they have such disgust for not just Trump, but for the United States Constitution.

00:14:06.000 We discussed for the fundamental premise of the Founding Fathers.

00:14:11.000 The Founding Fathers set up a system of three co-equal branches of government.

00:14:16.000 Not one is greater than the other.

00:14:17.000 But Woodrow Wilson, over a hundred years ago, started a different form of government, which was, as we call it, the administrative state, otherwise known as the deep state.

00:14:28.000 We're that a council of experts that went to the best schools who know better than you will be able to plan out the economy, plan out scientific affairs, plan out pandemic response, plan out education, plan out transportation, plan out your daily life.

00:14:45.000 And that's how we got all these different departments.

00:14:46.000 Department of Education, Department of Interior, Department of Homeland Security.

00:14:50.000 So the departments are these expert class that are supposed to be running your world, your country.

00:14:54.000 How have they done?

00:14:56.000 Have they done a good job?

00:14:58.000 The Trump mandate is that we're going to tear it all down, that the experts don't share your values, number one, and they're not even good at their job, number two.

00:15:05.000 But they feel as if they are the sovereign.

00:15:08.000 They believe that no matter what the American people think, they look at you as an annoyance.

00:15:13.000 That's why they're okay with sending $200 billion to Ukraine and keeping tens of millions of people coming across the southern border illegally.

00:15:20.000 Because they think of you as an annoyance.

00:15:22.000 And what Trump is up against Is a realignment that is greater than just politics.

00:15:29.000 It's, can he change the form of government back to what the founding fathers designed?

00:15:35.000 That is the Herculean effort of what the transition team is trying to do.

00:15:39.000 That is the Herculean effort of what Donald Trump is trying to do, what he's trying to embark on.

00:15:43.000 It's not just about being a great president and delivering for the American people.

00:15:47.000 It's, for example, when the great Tom Homan Gives an order and says we're going to deport XYZ people who are murderers and rapists. 0.84

00:15:56.000 What if someone decides not to follow the order?

00:16:01.000 No, we don't like that.

00:16:02.000 What if when Tom Homan says we're going to get rid of catch and release?

00:16:06.000 What if a bureaucrat says, man, I don't like that order?

00:16:09.000 What you're talking about is the downfall and the disappearance of a citizen led government.

00:16:17.000 We have it coming back, though.

00:16:18.000 We have this opportunity.

00:16:19.000 Donald Trump won.

00:16:20.000 We won.

00:16:21.000 We the people won.

00:16:22.000 But I want you to be on guard.

00:16:23.000 And this is going to take an hour by hour fight on this program and on our social media to make sure That what the people want, the people get.

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00:17:33.000 Okay, joining us now is the new border czar, a great man and a great American, Tom Homan.

00:17:40.000 Tom, welcome back to the program and congratulations.

00:17:43.000 Thank you very much.

00:17:44.000 And thanks for what you and your organization has done.

00:17:47.000 You guys are game changers in selection, so hats off to you.

00:17:50.000 Thank you, Tom.

00:17:51.000 That means a lot.

00:17:52.000 And we worked as hard as we did so people like you can go do the next step.

00:17:56.000 And I mean that.

00:17:57.000 We have full faith in you.

00:17:59.000 So, Tom, let's get started here.

00:18:02.000 This last administration had the worst managed border in American history.

00:18:07.000 Roughly 8 to 10 million people have come across.

00:18:09.000 What are the steps necessary to fix this?

00:18:12.000 You know this in great detail better than anybody else.

00:18:16.000 And everybody understand, the Chief of Staff was announced number two, Tom Homan number one, then Tom Homan number two.

00:18:21.000 That's the priority of this administration.

00:18:23.000 So Tom, please walk our audience through that.

00:18:26.000 Well, look, Trump knows.

00:18:27.000 I spent 34 years on border security, national security.

00:18:31.000 I was a border collision.

00:18:32.000 I was an ICE agent.

00:18:33.000 I was the first ICE director, actually came up to the ranks.

00:18:36.000 So the 20,000 men and women worked for me.

00:18:38.000 I didn't ask them to do anything.

00:18:40.000 I didn't do it myself because I was one of them.

00:18:42.000 So look, I think what we need to do, rather than taking a bucket and bailing water out of the boat, we need to plug the hole.

00:18:48.000 That's the first thing we're going to do.

00:18:49.000 I say first thing, but there's a couple of first things.

00:18:52.000 We're going to secure the border and we're starting on day one.

00:18:55.000 At the same time, we're going to start the deportation operations in the interior.

00:19:00.000 The border quickly Remain in Mexico.

00:19:02.000 We got to get back in place.

00:19:04.000 President Trump had to get with Mexico and make that happen.

00:19:06.000 That was a game changer on the Trump administration.

00:19:08.000 If you want to claim asylum, go ahead and claim asylum, but you can wait in Mexico. 0.67

00:19:12.000 And what people don't realize is about three months into that program, Many people stop coming.

00:19:18.000 They stop selling everything they own, their life savings, to give it to the criminal cartels to be smuggled into the United States.

00:19:24.000 Because most of them know they don't qualify for asylum.

00:19:27.000 They're coming for a job.

00:19:28.000 They're coming for a better life.

00:19:29.000 And I get that.

00:19:30.000 But it's not asylum.

00:19:31.000 If you look at immigration court data, it clearly says 9 out of 10 people.

00:19:35.000 Nine out of 10 people who claim asylum at the border end up getting an order of removal because they simply don't qualify for asylum.

00:19:41.000 So Remain in Mexico is a game changer.

00:19:43.000 The first state country agreements, that was a game changer.

00:19:46.000 President Trump had three triangle countries in Mexico agree that if you're really escaping fear of persecution from your home government in El Salvador, And you get to Mexico, have you not escaped that fear and persecution?

00:19:58.000 You should be claiming asylum in the first free country coming. 1.00

00:20:01.000 That was a game changer.

00:20:02.000 We're going to stop catching release day one.

00:20:04.000 If you cross the border, you're either going to be immediately returned or you're going to be detained.

00:20:08.000 You're not going to be released.

00:20:10.000 And finally, the border wall.

00:20:12.000 We've got to get the border wall finished.

00:20:14.000 A lot of the wall that's already up, the Biden administration didn't finish the technology that goes in that wall, the technology that tells us someone's climbing it, digging under it.

00:20:23.000 Most important, the communications equipment inside that wall where Border Patrol agents can talk to one another because there's a lot of mountains and valleys where they lose radio contact.

00:20:32.000 That's an offshore safety issue.

00:20:33.000 So we got to get technology and existing the wall and finish building the wall according to the Border Patrol's operational plan.

00:20:42.000 Every place we built a wall, and anybody can go to CBP.gov and look at it, every place there's been a structure put up, illegal immigration went down, illegal drug flow went down, but most importantly, for those that think Trump's inhumane, the border wall saved lives because the most vulnerable, the women and children can't get over that wall, which means they go to a place where there's not a wall, and guess what's waiting for them?

00:21:03.000 United States Border Patrol, who's going to take care of the humanitarian health piece first, then they're going to deal with immigration issues. 0.75

00:21:10.000 Trump has already proven the most successful president in my lifetime, most unprecedented success on the border, 45-year low in illegal immigration.

00:21:17.000 Illegal immigration has done as much as 90%.

00:21:20.000 We had the game plan, but this time we've got to finish the game plan.

00:21:23.000 At the same time, kick off the biggest deportation operation this country has ever seen.

00:21:28.000 Let's get into that.

00:21:29.000 So we have literally foreign drug organizations and cartels taking over apartment buildings in Aurora, Colorado.

00:21:37.000 What authority does the federal government have to remove trespassers that are domiciled here illegally?

00:21:46.000 Is it absolute?

00:21:47.000 And what if a city says you, the federal government, are not welcome in our city?

00:21:53.000 Oh, two things, yes.

00:21:54.000 They're in the country illegally. 0.99

00:21:55.000 No one's going to stop ICE and take them into custody with them.

00:21:58.000 I said this this morning on the show, you know, I see all these, you know, the governors and mayors speak up, they're going to put, you know, they're going to put all these roadblocks up for the administration.

00:22:06.000 Look, I can't believe any elected official, whether you're a mayor or a governor, would stand on stage and say, I'm going to block ICE from doing what they do.

00:22:14.000 Because under the Trump administration's first four years, nine out of ten Nine out of ten people we arrested was a convicted criminal or pending criminal charges.

00:22:23.000 I don't understand why any elected official would say, no, I don't want a public safety threat taken off my streets.

00:22:29.000 I don't want a national security threat taken off my streets because that's going to be the priorities on the internal enforcement operation.

00:22:36.000 We're going after the public safety threat and the national security threat first because they propose the most dangerous to the United States.

00:22:42.000 Any politician wants to stand in the way Go ahead and stay in the way.

00:22:46.000 You're not going to stop it.

00:22:47.000 If you're not going to help us, get the hell out of the way because ICE is going to do their job.

00:22:50.000 You want to be a sanctuary city?

00:22:52.000 You don't want to let our officers in the jail? 0.99

00:22:54.000 You want to lease them into the public?

00:22:55.000 Okay, so I'll double the manpower for that city because now we've got to go in the neighborhood and find them because you put my officer at risk, you put the community at risk.

00:23:02.000 They're not going to stop ICE. We're going to take the handcuffs off ICE that's been on them for the last four years and let them do their job.

00:23:09.000 At one point, You know, they kept saying the Biden administration, Alejandro Mayorkas, who should have been impeached and removed three years ago, he says, ISIS is going to concentrate on the worst of the worst.

00:23:18.000 We're going to concentrate solely on the criminals.

00:23:19.000 If you didn't commit a criminal offense, you're free and ISIS can't arrest you.

00:23:23.000 However, if you look at the stats, the government's own data, the removal of criminal aliens, those convicted of crimes, is down 74% under this administration.

00:23:33.000 So we got a huge target area we need to go attack right away.

00:23:37.000 So just to be technically clear, let's just say if the city of Oakland declares themselves a sanctuary city, is there anything that they can legally do to prevent the federal government from coming in and removing a rapist who has a deportation notice on him or her?

00:23:57.000 No.

00:23:57.000 Federal law always trumps any state or local law.

00:24:01.000 We're going to do the job.

00:24:02.000 We're going to enforce the laws enacted by Congress without apology.

00:24:06.000 And that's very heartwarming to hear.

00:24:08.000 Then how in the first administration were sanctuary cities allowed to be tolerated?

00:24:12.000 Because, Tom, I imagine you're not going to put up with that.

00:24:15.000 You'll say, that's nice.

00:24:16.000 Okay, you guys can call whatever you want.

00:24:18.000 Here's the first administration.

00:24:20.000 Of course, the left went nuts when I said something on a Fox interview, and I said this.

00:24:26.000 When I was a special agent, I arrested a lot of US citizens for harboring illegal aliens, either in their place of employment or their homes.

00:24:35.000 Harboring an illegal alien is a felony.

00:24:38.000 So what I said on a news show one day, I said, okay, so how is it different From a U.S. citizen harboring somebody, it's a felony, but a county jail who has illegal aliens in there that won't let ICE in that jail?

00:24:49.000 How is that not harboring?

00:24:51.000 So what I'm asking for is DOJ to look at that.

00:24:53.000 Is that harboring or not?

00:24:54.000 And take action.

00:24:55.000 President Trump actually filed a lawsuit against sanctuary cities to pull all their federal funding and take legal action.

00:25:01.000 However, he didn't win the It's a second time around, and Joe Biden, when he wrote those 94 executive orders establishing everything we created to give us the most secure border, he told DOJ to drop that lawsuit.

00:25:12.000 So that lawsuit has to get back in place.

00:25:14.000 But I cannot believe any law enforcement agency is going to refuse another federal law enforcement agent to get into a county jail and talk to the guy that you locked up.

00:25:24.000 You locked him into jail, so it's obviously a public safety threat.

00:25:27.000 Why are you going to give us access to it?

00:25:28.000 Now, some of these sanctuary sharers say, Well, we're a sanctuary city.

00:25:32.000 We want victims and witnesses of alien crime to feel free to come to us without thinking we're working with ICE. That is just a stone-cold lie because the victims and witnesses of alien crime, they don't want the bad guy released either.

00:25:46.000 I mean, that's common sense.

00:25:47.000 We don't want to talk to the victim witness.

00:25:50.000 We want to talk to the guy that you locked in a jail cell.

00:25:53.000 And when you're done with him, we want him.

00:25:55.000 Not only will we remove him from the community so he can't re-offend, We're going to remove them from the country.

00:26:01.000 Tom, this is wonderful to hear.

00:26:04.000 So, for example, J.B. Pritzker last week, right after Trump won, said, we're going to fight the federal government.

00:26:10.000 We are welcome to all people.

00:26:13.000 Basically, that's just rhetoric.

00:26:14.000 And the federal government can come in and has the authority to be able to Take criminals, especially, and get them out of the country.

00:26:25.000 I just want to reiterate one more thing.

00:26:28.000 This is really a question of the will, isn't it, Tom?

00:26:31.000 The law is on your side.

00:26:32.000 You just have to have, which we have, the mandate from the people and the will to enforce the law.

00:26:38.000 Is that correct?

00:26:39.000 Yeah, and I think the staff, the president's putting together, between Steve Miller, myself, and Christine Aum, we have the will.

00:26:46.000 The issue is going to be constant lawsuits that's going to delay action.

00:26:50.000 It's going to be the miscommunication, the misinformation by the left.

00:26:55.000 Look, I've seen it already, right?

00:26:57.000 How we're going to go And have the U.S. Army going through neighborhoods to look for people different than us and have the Army arrest people.

00:27:04.000 It's just what's happening, right?

00:27:05.000 So what needs to be different this time about the American will is we need to be transparent.

00:27:11.000 We need to have a weekly briefing and telling the American people exactly what we're doing.

00:27:15.000 We said we're going to concentrate on public safety threats and national security threats.

00:27:18.000 Look what we've done.

00:27:19.000 The removal of criminal ailing is up 130%.

00:27:22.000 We need to have constant communication with the public, the American people, so we don't lose faith in them.

00:27:27.000 Let them know exactly what we're doing, how we're doing it.

00:27:29.000 And that is humane operation.

00:27:32.000 And that's how we keep the support of the American people.

00:27:34.000 The left, the far left, the woke, they don't matter to me.

00:27:38.000 And I don't care what they think about me.

00:27:40.000 I never have.

00:27:41.000 They can't cancel if you don't care.

00:27:43.000 And I don't care what they think.

00:27:44.000 We've got to message this right, Charlie.

00:27:46.000 We're looking for people like you to help us.

00:27:49.000 Control the narrative of what we're doing and speak truth to the American people because the truth is going to matter.

00:27:54.000 I want your reaction to this clip, Tom.

00:27:56.000 Play cut 369, please.

00:27:58.000 One who intends to come take away the freedom and opportunity and dignity of Illinoisans, I would remind you that a happy warrior is still a warrior.

00:28:09.000 You come for my people.

00:28:12.000 You come through me.

00:28:14.000 Game on.

00:28:15.000 One minute, your reaction, Tom.

00:28:17.000 Game on.

00:28:18.000 We got no problem going through him.

00:28:20.000 I got 20,000 men and women in ICE are going to do their job with no apology.

00:28:26.000 Congress has enacted a law that protects this country.

00:28:28.000 People need to understand, but what if they're not criminal aliens?

00:28:31.000 Look, entering this country legally is a crime.

00:28:33.000 Every illegal alien in this country committed a crime to get here, so they're all criminals. 1.00

00:28:38.000 And look, there's some worse than others.

00:28:39.000 I get that.

00:28:40.000 And even if they're not a criminal alien, when you cross that border and you overwhelm the Border Patrol, just because you're a simply illegal alien, not a criminal, when you overrun the Border Patrol, that's when they get busy changing diapers, making baby phones, making hospital runs, making transportation runs.

00:28:57.000 That's when the fat enough comes across to kill a quarter million people.

00:28:59.000 That's when you got 600% increase in sex trafficking.

00:29:02.000 That's when you have a record number of terrorists crossing the border and people on terrorist watchpoints.

00:29:06.000 Illegal immigration is not a victim of crime. 1.00

00:29:08.000 We're going to enforce the law without apologies.

00:29:10.000 And the day Donald Trump takes that oath, we're in a go mode.

00:29:14.000 And if any government wants to stand in the way, go ahead and do it.

00:29:18.000 We'll see what happens.

00:29:19.000 I'm not going to be intimidated.

00:29:21.000 The men and women of ICE aren't going to be intimidated.

00:29:22.000 We're going to do our job the way President Trump has committed to the American people.

00:29:26.000 We have a mandate and we're going to do it.

00:29:29.000 That's why I worked as hard as I did on the election, everybody.

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00:30:38.000 So, Tom, let's say that, okay, January 20th, Donald Trump says, so help me God, and finishes his inauguration.

00:30:45.000 He's president.

00:30:46.000 He walks into the outer room of the Capitol building and sitting on his desk are a bunch of executive orders waiting for him to sign.

00:30:53.000 If you get your way, what are those executive orders, Tom Homan?

00:30:57.000 When we discussed in the beginning, we're going to end catch-release.

00:31:00.000 We're going to file lawsuits in sanctuary cities.

00:31:05.000 We're going to reprioritize the ICE priorities that the Secretary destroyed.

00:31:12.000 One of the things I think he needs to really look at is building the detention capacity and having DOD issue in Title V, which allows DOD to assist us in many ways.

00:31:22.000 We have a limited number of agents.

00:31:24.000 The more we have, the better we can do.

00:31:26.000 So DOD has helped the President on the border many times.

00:31:29.000 So by issuing the Title V Declaration, DOD can do the transportation, whether it's ground or air.

00:31:34.000 They can help build the infrastructure of soft-side facilities.

00:31:37.000 The Army Corps engineers can help build that wall.

00:31:41.000 And what that does, when they can do the transportation, they can do the intelligence, they can do the infrastructure, that releases our badges and guns to the street.

00:31:49.000 Because right now, a lot of Border Patrol agents, a lot of ICE agents are doing administrative type stuff that needs to be done, but it doesn't need to be done by badge and gun.

00:31:56.000 We need an executive board to vastly contract out processing.

00:32:01.000 It doesn't take a badge and a gun to process somebody in a criminal database and take their fingerprints and run an NCIFC. We can contract that work out again, taking thousands of borbeter lasers off their desks and getting back on the field and contracting out the feeding, carrying of these people.

00:32:18.000 There's a lot of things the president can do on day one to release the guns and badges To do their national security duty, rather than all this administrative garbage they've been forced to deal with under the Biden administration.

00:32:28.000 So, Tom, in closing here, again, the audience is just thrilled, and so am I. And we have this opportunity to fix this.

00:32:35.000 Final question, legislatively.

00:32:38.000 President Trump is going to Washington, D.C. tomorrow as a triumphant return.

00:32:44.000 What, if anything, realistically, would you like to see Congress do?

00:32:47.000 We're going to have a slight majority in the House, a reasonable majority in the Senate.

00:32:51.000 One of the first bills they're going to pass is going to be some sort of a border bill.

00:32:54.000 What would you like to see from a funding perspective or from a policy change perspective that makes sure that we can close the southern border and make these changes permanent?

00:33:03.000 Excellent question.

00:33:04.000 Because what we do, what we're seeing is executive order, executive order, executive order, and every president can overturn the other president.

00:33:10.000 There are three things that Congress can do that would fix 85% of this border.

00:33:14.000 They need to change the TVPRA, the Trafficking Victims Protection Act.

00:33:18.000 They had a good intention.

00:33:20.000 That says this.

00:33:22.000 If it's as retained, that you're a child of trafficking, you have certain rights and certain appeals to the government that you can stay here.

00:33:31.000 But here's what the TVPR says.

00:33:33.000 If it's as retained, you are not a victim of trafficking.

00:33:39.000 If you're from Mexico, you're immediately removed. 1.00

00:33:41.000 If you're from Canada, you're immediately removed. 1.00

00:33:43.000 But if you're from any other country, even though we ascertained you're not a victim of trafficking, you've got this whole process that takes years.

00:33:49.000 You're going to end up to stay here forever.

00:33:52.000 That is a magnet that has increased the unaccompanied alien children trafficking.

00:33:57.000 Over 500,000 children have been trafficked across this board by criminal cartels, and this administration can't find them.

00:34:02.000 That's another thing President Trump's going to do on top of securing the border and doing deportation operation. 0.89

00:34:07.000 We're going to fine those children and save them because many of them are in forced labor, many of them are in sex trafficking, many of them are living with pedophiles.

00:34:14.000 These children are living a life of hell.

00:34:16.000 We're going to go fine them and save them.

00:34:17.000 The second thing Congress can do is change the asylum law.

00:34:20.000 The asylum law, when you first get to the border, you make an asylum claim.

00:34:24.000 The burden of proof is very, very low.

00:34:27.000 Because if we don't want somebody back to their home country to be persecuted, so they set the threshold so low, it's ridiculous.

00:34:33.000 The cartels would teach these people a few key phrases to say, pass that first interview, you get released.

00:34:38.000 Then when you get to court, if you show up in court, that threshold of proof is much higher, and 90% fail in court.

00:34:46.000 And that's a true number.

00:34:47.000 90% will pass the first interview, they get to court, 90%.

00:34:51.000 So we need to make that first interview threshold the same as the judicial threshold, and that would help solve the problem.

00:34:57.000 Finally, the Forest Settlement Agreement.

00:34:59.000 The Forest Settlement Agreement says we can't detain family units in a residential facility long enough to see a judge.

00:35:05.000 They said we can only hold them in 20 days.

00:35:07.000 The way the system's set up, it takes almost 40 days to have someone see a judge.

00:35:11.000 So change that.

00:35:12.000 Let us keep them in the family residential center.

00:35:15.000 They're not going to be in jail.

00:35:16.000 They'll be in an open campus family residential center.

00:35:19.000 Let us keep them long enough to see a judge. 0.87

00:35:21.000 90% will lose.

00:35:22.000 We'll put them on an airplane and send them home.

00:35:24.000 The reason I know that will work is under Obama administration, when we've had the first surge, we built family residential centers.

00:35:30.000 We held them long enough to see a judge.

00:35:32.000 We put them on an airplane and sent them home.

00:35:34.000 The border numbers tanked.

00:35:36.000 Then the Ninth Circuit comes back and says, no, you can order home in 20 minutes or 20 days.

00:35:41.000 Tom, you have our full support.

00:35:42.000 I agree with you, and I would love to meet with you privately about a communication strategy.

00:35:46.000 I don't know the border stuff like you do, but I know how to win the information war, and whenever you're around here in the Winter White House, I'd love to chat with you because it's going to be an information war as much as anything else.

00:35:57.000 Tom, God bless you.

00:35:58.000 Couldn't be more thrilled.

00:35:59.000 Thank you so much.

00:35:59.000 Thank you.

00:36:00.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:36:02.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliecrick.com.

00:36:04.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - November 12, 2024

Introducing the New Border Czar: Tom Homan

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