The Charlie Kirk Show - Iowa Caucus Day — Everything You Need to Know

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00:01:22.000 It is caucus day in the beautiful state of Iowa.

00:01:28.000 Okay, let's get the facts right.

00:01:31.000 What is a caucus?

00:01:32.000 A caucus is the oldest form of representative government in the sense where it is a bunch of people in a neighborhood meeting all across the state of Iowa at a specific time.

00:01:43.000 And you meet.

00:01:44.000 You meet in a church.

00:01:45.000 You meet in a community center.

00:01:46.000 You meet in a designated location.

00:01:48.000 Now, what makes a caucus different than a primary is there's no early voting.

00:01:52.000 There is no mail-in balloting.

00:01:54.000 There is no even machines.

00:01:55.000 In fact, it is so transparent, it almost makes you wonder: can we do other elections this way?

00:02:01.000 A caucus is close to a town meeting.

00:02:05.000 This is if we're calling a city council meeting, who wants to show up and vote?

00:02:08.000 So at a caucus tonight, all across Iowa, a tradition they do every four years, at I think well over 1,800, 2,000 locations across the state of Iowa, some very big and some very small.

00:02:22.000 People from across Iowa will brave the negative 10, negative 20, negative 30 degree temperatures, and they'll show up at the local Catholic church or show up at the local community center.

00:02:34.000 They'll wait in line, hopefully not too long.

00:02:36.000 Be safe, everybody.

00:02:37.000 I'm worried about the temperatures.

00:02:39.000 It doesn't, you do not get extra points by showing up at 4 p.m.

00:02:42.000 I know the enthusiasm is out of control.

00:02:45.000 We're going to talk about that.

00:02:46.000 But you do not get extra points for that.

00:02:48.000 Stay safe.

00:02:49.000 Stay in the car if necessary.

00:02:50.000 Make plans.

00:02:52.000 And please, I'm just being honest.

00:02:54.000 Just, I don't want anyone to have to go be hospitalized because of the enthusiasm.

00:03:00.000 And we've said that last week.

00:03:01.000 We said it.

00:03:02.000 I'll say it again.

00:03:03.000 It's no joke.

00:03:04.000 Wear the proper clothing.

00:03:05.000 Take it seriously.

00:03:06.000 They have to let you in.

00:03:07.000 Sit in the car for an hour if you need to.

00:03:09.000 Sit in the car for 30 minutes if you have to.

00:03:11.000 Come in, bring hand and feet warmers, whatever.

00:03:14.000 Take it seriously.

00:03:15.000 Don't be like, oh, I'm tough.

00:03:16.000 I'm going to wear short sleeves.

00:03:17.000 You're not tough if it's negative 30-degree weather.

00:03:19.000 I grew up in Chicago.

00:03:20.000 That is no joke, but we do need you to show up.

00:03:22.000 So at the same time, we need you to show up, be responsible, do your duty.

00:03:25.000 Okay.

00:03:26.000 You show up, you go into the meeting, and you sit in a room.

00:03:29.000 And whoever's running the caucus, it might be a county commissioner.

00:03:32.000 It might be a local Republican chair, says, okay, we have these people that are caucusing for this state.

00:03:40.000 Who would like to give a one-minute speech for Vivek Ramaswamy?

00:03:43.000 Who would like to give a one-minute speech for DeSantis?

00:03:46.000 Who would like to give a one-minute speech for Nikki Haley?

00:03:48.000 Who would like to give a one-minute speech for Trump?

00:03:51.000 And so then a representative, someone from your community, will stand up and will say, I believe for Trump for these reasons.

00:03:58.000 Dot, Okay, thank you very much.

00:04:01.000 Your one minute is up.

00:04:02.000 Sir, would you like to come up?

00:04:03.000 Yes, I'd like to tell you why I'd like to have DeSantis.

00:04:06.000 Dot, Thank you very much.

00:04:07.000 A ma'am, would you like to come up and talk about Nikki Haley?

00:04:09.000 Yes. 0.67

00:04:10.000 And then after each one of the candidates has a representative, then they say, let's vote.

00:04:16.000 And literally on little pieces of paper, no ballots, no things printed, no machines, none of that.

00:04:22.000 They'll write their name, Vivek, or Trump, or Nikki, and then they put it in a bucket.

00:04:30.000 They put it in the bucket and they get collected in front of everybody.

00:04:36.000 I saw this happen.

00:04:37.000 I went to an Iowa caucus to see it for myself.

00:04:39.000 Boy, it's hard to believe.

00:04:40.000 Eight years ago, I was there in the Quad Cities area, and they say, okay, here's how many for Trump.

00:04:45.000 And they just count it right there.

00:04:47.000 And here's how many for Veik and how many for Nikki.

00:04:50.000 And then you can literally watch it all be tabulated and you could see how your caucus site voted.

00:04:55.000 So you're going to see pictures, by the way, flooding in, all in real time.

00:05:00.000 It's about a 30 to 40 minute process.

00:05:02.000 And depending on the size of the caucus, some of these caucuses are 10 people.

00:05:06.000 Some of these caucuses, like the ones outside of Des Moines or the ones in the Quad City, are 1,000 people.

00:05:11.000 Now, candidates themselves can decide to show up at a caucus.

00:05:14.000 So DeSantis is probably planning to show up at the largest caucus or Vivek or I don't know if Donald Trump is staying in the state of Iowa.

00:05:20.000 He probably is.

00:05:21.000 And they will go to a caucus site and that tends to move an extra 30 or 40 or 50.

00:05:26.000 Don Jr. will probably go to a very populated caucus site in Ames, Iowa, or in Iowa City.

00:05:32.000 Eric Trump will go to a caucus site.

00:05:34.000 So they'll deploy surrogates.

00:05:35.000 Carrie Lake, Matt Gates, they're all assigned caucus sites.

00:05:39.000 So it doesn't just have to be a member of the neighborhood.

00:05:42.000 It can be a surrogate for any one of these campaigns that will show up.

00:05:46.000 And so somebody is going to have the great opportunity to hear from Carrie Lake tonight.

00:05:50.000 She'll just show up at a pretty well-attended caucus site and she will be one of the people that gives that one-minute speech.

00:05:55.000 DeSantis will have some of his surrogates and Nikki Haley will have, you know, some board member of Boeing show up for her at somewhere.

00:06:03.000 So then they count it and then they just, they will transmit the information very transparently back to the Iowa GOP.

00:06:11.000 So the Iowa GOP is sitting there and where their headquarters is, probably in Des Moines.

00:06:14.000 And they're getting all this data and they'll say, okay, caucus site 27 had this many votes for Trump and this many votes for Haley and they'll input it.

00:06:22.000 And you're going to get results very, very fast.

00:06:25.000 Now, remember, when the Democrats had their caucus four years ago, there were all these problems at the machinery because of Pete Buttedj.

00:06:34.000 Remember that?

00:06:35.000 Pete Boutedj, who actually won the state of Iowa.

00:06:38.000 Joe Biden finished a distant fourth or fifth.

00:06:40.000 They thought that the Biden campaign was over after Iowa.

00:06:43.000 In fact, it kind of was until they decided to select him, not elect him after New Hampshire because of the South Carolina reset.

00:06:50.000 They saw COVID coming.

00:06:51.000 They needed the boring candidate to try to create a fake simulation of a 2020 election.

00:06:56.000 So you're going to get results tonight.

00:06:58.000 Now, if Donald Trump wins by more than 10 points, it will be one of the most triumphant, historically significant wins in Republican primary history.

00:07:10.000 You know that over $136 million was spent in Iowa.

00:07:15.000 Now, let me take a timeout.

00:07:17.000 That should sicken you.

00:07:18.000 Here we are at turning point action trying to raise as much money as possible.

00:07:22.000 And, you know, we're right near about 15 to 20 million in total commitments for ballot chasing.

00:07:26.000 Praise God.

00:07:27.000 But $136 million, more than $250 million between the campaigns and independent PACs just for Iowa.

00:07:39.000 Imagine if Donald Trump wins by 30 and we will have vaporized $250 million.

00:07:46.000 Where that money could have been better spent is suing Mark Elias for voter integrity and election integrity in Arizona.

00:07:53.000 Money could have been better spent with a grassroots army in Georgia.

00:07:56.000 The money could have better spent running advertisements.

00:07:59.000 I'm not a big fan of ads, but maybe getting Biden's numbers down, increasing Trump's numbers.

00:08:04.000 The lack of resources in the conservative movement is real.

00:08:09.000 And yet, $250 million, I don't want to get too ahead of myself.

00:08:13.000 I want to wait for the final results here at Iowa.

00:08:15.000 But if Donald Trump wins by more than 15, it will go down as one of the greatest blunders of an opportunity cost in the history of the Republican Party.

00:08:23.000 That's $250 million.

00:08:25.000 You're not going to get back.

00:08:27.000 And so I'm going to save some of my spicier commentary, especially if Ron DeSantis finishes third or if Ron DeSantis loses significantly, we're going to have some very, very spicy feedback because resources are limited.

00:08:40.000 The general election is what we're all focused on.

00:08:43.000 We have to win.

00:08:44.000 We have to win.

00:08:45.000 And the election is more than candidate selection.

00:08:48.000 It's about machinery.

00:08:49.000 And our machinery is lacking in sophistication.

00:08:52.000 It is lacking in funding.

00:08:55.000 The RNC is completely out of control.

00:08:57.000 They do not have the resources.

00:08:59.000 They do not have the money.

00:09:00.000 And the allocation of these scarce resources are key.

00:09:05.000 So tonight, we're going to learn a lot.

00:09:06.000 Typically, caucuses are very, very tight.

00:09:09.000 Polling shows that Donald Trump is up significantly.

00:09:12.000 I'm a little afraid about that.

00:09:14.000 Iowa is a tough place to poll, but I think based on everything I've been hearing on the ground that Trump's going to have a good night.

00:09:19.000 If Trump wins by more than 10 points, that should be the end of the primary.

00:09:25.000 Understand, the regime media, and I'm going to talk about Nimerata.

00:09:28.000 It's very important.

00:09:29.000 There's two elements to the Nimerata thing: which is they're going to try to create New Hampshire to be the real start of the primary. 0.95

00:09:38.000 They're going to say, oh my goodness, no, no, no, Iowa, this is what they're going to say.

00:09:41.000 I guarantee you.

00:09:42.000 Iowa picks corn and New Hampshire picks presidents. 1.00

00:09:45.000 They're going to try to reframe the entire thing. 1.00

00:09:48.000 And let's go to New Hampshire because Nikki is going to do better in New Hampshire than Iowa.

00:09:53.000 And then they're going to try to go to South Carolina, the state that she was the former governor. 1.00

00:09:57.000 The sooner we can end this primary, the sooner we can deploy these scarce resources towards a general election.

00:10:05.000 I have an extra pep in my step today, though, because today is the beginning.

00:10:10.000 It's a day I have been hoping and wishing and praying for because I have had a bad taste in my mouth.

00:10:17.000 I have had a pit in my stomach for well over three years.

00:10:25.000 It has been three years since January 6th, since Biden getting sworn in.

00:10:30.000 And today, finally, the long expected day where we can finally get back into the arena to take back this country.

00:10:40.000 Feels good, doesn't it?

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00:11:47.000 It feels good.

00:11:48.000 I want you to think about these last three years, the open borders, the inflation, the deterioration of our currency, the funding of these proxy wars abroad.

00:11:57.000 And we've just been waiting and waiting and waiting.

00:12:00.000 They've indicted Donald Trump.

00:12:01.000 He's facing 700 years in federal prison.

00:12:04.000 And let me just riff on that for a second.

00:12:08.000 I'm going to, when Donald Trump wins tonight, and again, you have to show up.

00:12:12.000 If you don't show up, and if you know a remote cousin in Iowa, call him up, say, show up to the caucus.

00:12:19.000 We need massive MAGA turnout, everybody, massive MAGA turnout.

00:12:24.000 But I'm going to be able for a second tonight to say, I'm happy for Trump the person.

00:12:30.000 I'm happy for Trump the man.

00:12:32.000 The movement is huge, and we're going to talk about the movement.

00:12:34.000 The movement is ascendant.

00:12:36.000 You know, Val Harari, this is not so quiet whisper campaign, by the way, that's bubbling up, where people are afraid that the reckoning against what they've done to us is inevitable.

00:12:45.000 We'll get to that.

00:12:47.000 But Trump the person, they're about to take his business empire away from him.

00:12:52.000 He's facing 700 years in federal prison.

00:12:55.000 He has been sued from every possible direction.

00:12:57.000 His closest confidants have been lying about him and leaking on him the whole January 6th, twice impeached.

00:13:04.000 He's had a tough three years.

00:13:05.000 He has had a tough three years.

00:13:08.000 And while this is not the big one, the plan from many Republicans who are now endorsing him, and by the way, I just kind of roll my eyes.

00:13:17.000 I'm glad to see it at the same time, I roll my eyes when all these senators that are now endorsing Trump that it's just, they are so as the wind goes.

00:13:25.000 They're endorsing Trump because they see what's happening.

00:13:27.000 They want to get into it.

00:13:28.000 They want to make sure they have access.

00:13:31.000 Fine.

00:13:32.000 I'm glad that they're finally bending the knee, but I just, it just somewhat bothers me.

00:13:38.000 Most of them are weasels.

00:13:40.000 But for Trump the man, this is a win for all of us because they've tried to go after you.

00:13:45.000 They've tried to go after our movement.

00:13:47.000 But I'm going to watch tonight, God willing, he wins.

00:13:50.000 And if we show up in huge numbers and we all do our part and we don't take it for granted and we don't say, oh, you know, he's up by 20 points, none of that nonsense.

00:13:58.000 If he wins, which it looks like he will, that will be a mass repudiation of everything that they have thrown at him.

00:14:05.000 Again, it's not the big one.

00:14:06.000 It's not Super Tuesday.

00:14:07.000 It's not the nomination.

00:14:09.000 But over $250 million were spent.

00:14:11.000 Vast majority not there.

00:14:12.000 I bet maybe Trump spent 50 or 60 million, maybe, maybe total in Iowa, maybe.

00:14:19.000 The plan was to take him out.

00:14:20.000 The plan was to run these ads against him.

00:14:23.000 The plan was to bring his numbers down.

00:14:27.000 And I personally look to what's going to happen tonight as a life lesson.

00:14:33.000 You know, I hear all the time from people, and I don't resonate with this argument, but I can see where it comes from where parents say, I want a president that my kids can look up to.

00:14:44.000 And I say, okay, well, why don't you like Trump?

00:14:46.000 And they say, oh, because of his language, he insults people.

00:14:49.000 That's not always my speed.

00:14:51.000 I get that.

00:14:51.000 I understand.

00:14:53.000 However, is there anything virtuous about Donald Trump that you could get your kid to look up to?

00:14:58.000 And honestly, the lesson tonight will be: even when the whole world is against you, you never surrender, you don't give up, you keep on hustling, you keep on scrapping, and you could still end up being successful.

00:15:09.000 Show me another political figure tonight.

00:15:12.000 Show me another political figure that has been through what he's been through, hasn't given up, and can get back to a place of achievement and success.

00:15:20.000 Not straw polls, not big events, not even turning point events.

00:15:24.000 Okay, he won the straw poll, whatever.

00:15:25.000 No, tonight's real.

00:15:26.000 Tonight is actual votes.

00:15:28.000 Tonight is the first time in three years.

00:15:30.000 It's the first time post-January 6th.

00:15:33.000 Tonight is the first time post-January 20th when that traitor became president of the United States that we have a real election, a real opportunity, a real voice.

00:15:43.000 Tonight's the first time.

00:15:44.000 And it wasn't supposed to happen.

00:15:46.000 The ball game, the plan was to get this Iowa caucus into a post-Trump period.

00:15:51.000 The Uniparty and the regime, they wanted to do everything they possibly could to preempt him. 0.67

00:15:56.000 They raided his home.

00:15:57.000 They indicted him.

00:15:58.000 They sued him.

00:15:59.000 They threatened him.

00:16:00.000 The ball game was to get Trump not to run.

00:16:03.000 And he said, no, no, no, no.

00:16:04.000 I'm not doing that.

00:16:05.000 And he's obviously paying the price.

00:16:08.000 But tonight is a glimmer.

00:16:09.000 It's an opportunity where I don't want to speak for him.

00:16:14.000 But even though it might not be one of the biggest wins of Donald Trump's political career, the biggest obviously being 2016 and all the surprise and the shock and the awe, this should probably be one of the ones that he delights in the most.

00:16:27.000 And he honestly has earned it.

00:16:29.000 He has worked his tail off this calendar year.

00:16:32.000 Well, this last calendar year, 2023.

00:16:34.000 He did not have a sense of entitlement about this.

00:16:37.000 They had tons of money spent against him.

00:16:39.000 The law fair trying to take him out and taking his business empire.

00:16:43.000 And it should be a first step towards what the bad guys really fear.

00:16:47.000 And I'm going to play some pieces of tape that will get you really, really fired up.

00:16:51.000 The fortitude that this man has.

00:16:54.000 For me personally, I'm going to be happy for him.

00:16:56.000 I'm going to be happy for all of us because we all have needed a win, haven't we?

00:17:00.000 But mostly, I'm going to be happy for the man, the man that they've tried to take out.

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00:18:20.000 Okay, I want to play this tape here.

00:18:22.000 It's amazing.

00:18:23.000 I saw this over the weekend and you're starting to, so this could be a shtick, but I don't think it is.

00:18:29.000 It's happening in too many different places, too many different data points.

00:18:32.000 I don't think this is a shtick.

00:18:35.000 Now, what do I mean by that?

00:18:36.000 Meaning that they all came together and said, let's pretend that we're really afraid of Trump to try to increase his base support, to try to get our base fired up to raise more money.

00:18:46.000 But it's too many different voices.

00:18:47.000 It's domestic. 0.92

00:18:48.000 It's foreign. 1.00

00:18:49.000 It's on cable TV.

00:18:51.000 It's on podcasting.

00:18:52.000 It feels as if two things.

00:18:55.000 I think there's a spiritual element to this and that there's an invisible element.

00:18:59.000 And then there's the obvious.

00:19:00.000 The first of which is they're seeing what's happening.

00:19:03.000 They know they've overreached and they see a Western trajectory.

00:19:07.000 They see it in the Netherlands.

00:19:09.000 They see it in Germany.

00:19:10.000 They see it in Scandinavian countries.

00:19:13.000 They see it across the Western world.

00:19:15.000 They see it in Argentina, which is a people-driven response to the overreaches and the excesses of globalism.

00:19:23.000 Right?

00:19:23.000 Cheap money printing, open borders.

00:19:26.000 And they're starting to look at a pattern.

00:19:29.000 And the pattern that they are recognizing is that the person who wants to control immigration, get the currency sound, that wants to rebuild the homeland is winning regardless of how much the media tries to smear them.

00:19:42.000 That is what they're seeing.

00:19:44.000 And one of the most evil people on the planet is this guy, Yoval Harari. 0.86

00:19:50.000 He's as bad as it gets. 0.96

00:19:51.000 This guy is the bottom of the barrel.

00:19:53.000 And he is telling you very clearly that he thinks it's likely that Trump is going to win.

00:19:59.000 Now, again, he could just be saying this.

00:20:02.000 I factor in that this is a possibility.

00:20:06.000 I don't think so.

00:20:07.000 We have Pelosi.

00:20:08.000 We have Obama.

00:20:08.000 We're hearing this in too many different places for this to be an op.

00:20:12.000 It could be psychological warfare.

00:20:14.000 I actually think they believe it, but they also know if they say it, they also get the extra benefit of getting their base really excited and more money and more importance.

00:20:22.000 And also, as a third part, before I get to the invisible, they never want to lay their guard down like they did in 2016.

00:20:30.000 I think that they've made a blood oath that we're going to overestimate every single possible political opponent because when we did it in 2016, we were unsuccessful.

00:20:37.000 But I think there's an invisible part of this.

00:20:40.000 I think that we're all built with souls, despite what Yaval Harari believes.

00:20:43.000 He doesn't believe that.

00:20:44.000 And that whether they recognize it or not, they know that they have done great evil.

00:20:51.000 And since they've done great evil and they've tried to suppress their consciousness and their conscious because of that evil, that it might just blurt out every so often, they're afraid that justice might come back to them.

00:21:06.000 Play cut eight.

00:21:07.000 Are you concerned that Trump might be elected again?

00:21:10.000 I think it's very likely.

00:21:12.000 And if it happens, it is likely to be the kind of like the deathblow to what remains of the global order.

00:21:21.000 And he says it, and he says it openly.

00:21:23.000 Now, again, it should be clear that many of these politicians, they present a false dichotomy, a false binary vision of the world, as if you have to choose between patriotism and globalism, between being loyal to your nation and being loyal to some kind of, I don't know, global government or whatever.

00:21:50.000 He is actually this sinister, awful person is articulating the paradigm rather well, globalism versus nationalism.

00:21:58.000 Now, he's trying to add some nuance to it, which is, oh, no, no, you could be part of the World Economic Forum and be a card-carrying lover of your country. 0.90

00:22:04.000 That's nonsense, okay?

00:22:06.000 We see through it.

00:22:07.000 The only reason you're saying that, Yoval, is because, you know, there's a political liability to the forced assimilation of different nations and the obliteration of language, of borders, of history, and culture.

00:22:20.000 He's so smug.

00:22:22.000 Again, this is the guy who is the chief, the chief advisor to Klaus Schwab.

00:22:26.000 He is the chief pusher of transhumanism.

00:22:29.000 He's the one that says we need to make new biblical stories with artificial intelligence.

00:22:34.000 I'm just operating off the top of my head.

00:22:36.000 Remember, the World Economic Forum is meeting this week in Davos, Switzerland.

00:22:40.000 It's going to be, again, most of the stuff in Davos is super boring, right? 0.72

00:22:43.000 It's how can I get my board to be more lesbian or something, right? 0.98

00:22:47.000 And then they all go with hookers and they get super drunk and do drugs and they fly back on their private jets. 0.99

00:22:51.000 But every so often, something slips out of these meetings.

00:22:54.000 Every so often you hear something, a hot mic, that is super interesting.

00:22:59.000 So you got to keep your eyes on this.

00:23:00.000 What's happening tonight in Iowa, what hopefully will happen tonight in Iowa, God willing, because I just got an email from one of our listeners.

00:23:08.000 Charlie, the weather is terrible.

00:23:10.000 The roads have not been plowed.

00:23:11.000 They're impassable.

00:23:12.000 I can't get to my caucus site.

00:23:14.000 Okay.

00:23:14.000 So I hope that gets sorted out.

00:23:16.000 Again, I don't want to overestimate it, but that should also just be a shot in the arm.

00:23:19.000 If you live in Iowa, you have to show up.

00:23:21.000 You have to show up.

00:23:22.000 Tonight is the long-expected start of the constitutional reset.

00:23:26.000 And do I have to remind you, when Donald Trump was displaced from the Oval Office, we were still living under mass lockdowns, school closures, vaccine mandates, masks, and COVID-19.

00:23:40.000 We were not out of the woods yet in January, February, March of 2021.

00:23:45.000 That was right near the beginning, a year later, of the breakout of the Ukraine deal.

00:23:53.000 It's time to restore the rule of law.

00:23:56.000 And tonight is a beginning of that.

00:24:00.000 And you start to hear the bad guys.

00:24:03.000 This is one of the reasons why I think they had to indict Trump is that he has this superpower to command attention, to bring out low-propensity voters, to give people hope, to inspire them towards a better tomorrow.

00:24:14.000 He was not supposed to be in, he is, he is glitching their formula.

00:24:20.000 The formula was supposed to be super competitive primary.

00:24:23.000 If not, Trump not running at all.

00:24:25.000 $250 million spent against Trump.

00:24:27.000 There's no way he's going to win by double digits.

00:24:30.000 And if he could defeat that kind of ad onslaught, and it's not like the competition was lackluster.

00:24:35.000 It's not like Trump was just running up against Asa Hutchinson types or Chris Christie.

00:24:40.000 It's the best governor in America.

00:24:42.000 A year ago, if you would have predicted that Ron DeSantis would be a recipient of basically a punchline on the right and his hundreds of millions of dollars would have resulted in a flatline.

00:24:56.000 Now we'll see.

00:24:57.000 We'll see how he does.

00:24:57.000 His super PAC says, oh my goodness, you know, we've spent all this money and we knocked on 3 million doors.

00:25:03.000 We'll find out if that actually bears any fruit.

00:25:07.000 We'll see if there's a harvest to that.

00:25:09.000 We'll see.

00:25:09.000 I have my great doubts.

00:25:11.000 And tonight is when it is real.

00:25:14.000 You see, for the last three years, we look at these public approval polls, who's going to run, who's not going to run, it's the beginning.

00:25:23.000 And we got to be all locked in.

00:25:26.000 It's a hands-on deck moment, 10 out of 10, complete and total focus.

00:25:31.000 The importance, the significance is dramatic.

00:25:35.000 I want to play some pieces of tape here, please.

00:25:38.000 Let's go to cut nine.

00:25:39.000 Put this Trump lead in some perspective here.

00:25:42.000 First of all, the 48% that he's registering here, that is the highest share for a Republican candidate in a final Des Moines register poll ever.

00:25:52.000 That surpasses the record of 43% from George W. Bush on the eve of the 2000 caucuses.

00:25:59.000 Bush won those caucuses.

00:26:00.000 Also, the margin, Trump 48, Haley, 20.

00:26:03.000 That's a 28-point margin.

00:26:05.000 That is also the biggest margin in a final register poll, also breaking a record of George W. Bush of 23 points when he won the caucuses in 2000.

00:26:14.000 So that Trump lead, we haven't seen that before, but we've been seeing a lot in the polling this year.

00:26:19.000 It's dominant.

00:26:20.000 But now all of a sudden you started to see a little bit of a sneak.

00:26:22.000 And this is my concern.

00:26:24.000 And I have to be honest, we've done a good job on this program articulating this concern.

00:26:28.000 That if Donald Trump wins by 20, they're going to say, oh, my goodness, it's lower than expectations.

00:26:32.000 So the polling standard has been set so ridiculously unreasonable high.

00:26:36.000 I just wish the expectations would have been narrowed a little bit, but it is what it is.

00:26:42.000 CNN, though, is starting to tease.

00:26:44.000 What about a surprise for the Iowa caucus here?

00:26:47.000 Play Cut 11.

00:26:48.000 But it's cold.

00:26:49.000 It's not just cold, though.

00:26:50.000 We talked about this last week.

00:26:52.000 This is painful.

00:26:53.000 This is dangerous in rural counties where they don't get plowed as quickly.

00:27:00.000 You go in the ditch, your car's not coming out, your battery might be dead.

00:27:04.000 This is really different.

00:27:05.000 So I think we'll see something a little bit lower than we saw before, which might produce a surprise, which is kind of what I was famous for anyway.

00:27:12.000 So we'll see if that works.

00:27:13.000 I know.

00:27:13.000 I keep saying that there's not so much suspense with Trump, but I have to say, it does feel like, well, who knows?

00:27:18.000 Maybe we are in for something of a surprise.

00:27:20.000 It would be a big surprise.

00:27:21.000 But the question is, what does a surprise look like?

00:27:24.000 So Trump is ascendant.

00:27:26.000 Trump is going to be the nominee, whether it happens tonight.

00:27:28.000 And again, if Trump wins by 20 plus points, we need to be very clear for all the other candidates.

00:27:34.000 God bless you all.

00:27:36.000 Ron DeSantis, great governor.

00:27:37.000 Vivek, you're terrific.

00:27:39.000 And I do want to talk about the vague thing because I'm getting lots of emails on it.

00:27:42.000 You got 24 hours to bend the knee.

00:27:44.000 I'm just going to be honest.

00:27:45.000 If Trump wins by 10, 15, 20, something so significant, let's just end this ballgame.

00:27:50.000 Let's just focus on Joe Biden, combine our resources, get this whole silly thing over with.

00:27:55.000 Okay.

00:27:55.000 I'm willing to entertain this thing tonight.

00:27:58.000 Good luck.

00:27:59.000 You know, let's see how you do.

00:28:00.000 I'm willing to look at the data because people, the DeSantis people are always like, oh, you know, polls don't mean anything.

00:28:05.000 Okay.

00:28:05.000 Yeah.

00:28:05.000 What about a small dollar donations and rally attendance and all that?

00:28:07.000 But let's see.

00:28:08.000 Well, I'll hear you out.

00:28:09.000 Let's see tonight.

00:28:10.000 Let's see what you got.

00:28:11.000 I'm going to be fair and analytical.

00:28:13.000 But if Donald Trump wins historically significant, then let's just say enough, guys.

00:28:18.000 Bend the knee, get behind, consolidate, defeat Joe Biden.

00:28:23.000 Now, a concern I have is if I were the bad guys, I would have a multi-track plan because they plan everything out.

00:28:32.000 Remember, these are central planners.

00:28:33.000 They sit in a war room, and I would do everything I possibly could to say, boy, if we can't beat Trump, then why don't we infiltrate Trump?

00:28:43.000 I'm afraid that this vice presidential selection is going to be one of the most important ever.

00:28:47.000 And there's one name in particular that we have to have a unified voice.

00:28:52.000 And I have a very provocative question for you, the audience.

00:28:55.000 I want you to listen carefully and email me because I'm super curious.

00:28:59.000 If Trump were to choose and select Nikki Haley as his vice president, would that make you more excited?

00:29:05.000 Would that even question your support for Trump?

00:29:08.000 Would you say, I won't vote for Trump if Nikki is the vice president?

00:29:13.000 Because if I was trying to infiltrate the Trump campaign, that would be one attack vector.

00:29:19.000 I want to hear from you the grassroots.

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00:30:40.000 In some ways, it feels as if, okay, you could just look at it through a kind of traditional consultant lens, right?

00:30:48.000 You could look at this.

00:30:49.000 Oh, Nikki makes so much sense. 1.00

00:30:52.000 She would win over the women. 1.00

00:30:54.000 She's a former governor. 1.00

00:30:56.000 She looks great on paper.

00:30:58.000 All these different things.

00:31:00.000 You know, she came, maybe she'll finish second.

00:31:02.000 She can help you raise all this money.

00:31:04.000 You know, we have a group chat.

00:31:06.000 And Tyler is of the opinion that if Trump were to pick Tyler Boyer, does a great job turning point action.

00:31:12.000 This is his opinion.

00:31:13.000 That if Nimerada, Nikki, were to be vice president, it would be a 10 to 15% dip for Donald Trump.

00:31:20.000 People would just vote for RFK or they would go in another direction.

00:31:24.000 In fact, this is what's interesting.

00:31:26.000 One of the things that we're educating people on and helping people on at turning point action is how to become an RC delegate, how to become a delegate to the Republican National Convention this summer.

00:31:35.000 If Nikki Haley were to be selected as the vice president, I don't think she would make it five seconds. 0.51

00:31:40.000 He would get booed off stage.

00:31:42.000 And I'm not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing or a good look.

00:31:44.000 It's a fact.

00:31:46.000 If Nikki Haley were to be the vice presidential pick for Donald Trump and show up on stage in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, the only way they couldn't do that is they would have to have like Trump come out first and then Nikki and have Trump to like quell the stage, the crowd from booing.

00:32:05.000 But even then they would still boo.

00:32:06.000 I think they would.

00:32:08.000 Because there are breaking points.

00:32:09.000 Remember when people booed Trump over the vaccine?

00:32:13.000 There are breaking points there.

00:32:16.000 So you know what I would just love would put me at ease?

00:32:19.000 You know, because yesterday, this ties into the Vivek thing.

00:32:21.000 Jason Miller, I really like Jason Miller, who does a great job.

00:32:25.000 He comes out and he says, Vivek is out of consideration for vice president.

00:32:29.000 I'm paraphrasing, but he said something like that.

00:32:31.000 Because Vivek and Trump are quarreling right now.

00:32:34.000 And again, it's politics.

00:32:35.000 What do you guys expect?

00:32:36.000 Eventually, those two points are going to hit.

00:32:38.000 And I love Vivek.

00:32:39.000 Vivek is excellent.

00:32:40.000 He's terrific.

00:32:41.000 I'm a Trump guy, but I think Vivek has done such a moral good for Western civilization and for America for running for office.

00:32:48.000 People see it the other way.

00:32:49.000 The amount of highly intellectual, center-right people that have been red-pilled and moved to the right on core issues thanks to Vivek in my circle is numerous.

00:33:01.000 I'm not saying that the mass quantity of support is big, but the amount of people that otherwise were disenfranchised with Republican politics, they're involved in the tech space or they're crypto people or they're Bitcoin people or whatever.

00:33:16.000 We'll see.

00:33:17.000 Oh, just breaking.

00:33:20.000 A couple minutes ago, Donald Trump has just hit Nikki Haley.

00:33:24.000 So that's a good sign.

00:33:25.000 I just want a declarative Nikki's not under consideration.

00:33:28.000 I think you guys and I want it too because I'm still, I'm hearing that she has not been dismissed.

00:33:35.000 I want the dismissal, like how Vivek has been dismissed in the VP race.

00:33:38.000 I just want a no way.

00:33:40.000 I want a no way.

00:33:41.000 It's like that sign, it's like that Seinfeld clip when George thinks he has lupus or has cancer or something.

00:33:48.000 And he goes into the doctor and he asks the question, is it cancer?

00:33:53.000 And the doctor kind of looks around.

00:33:54.000 He says, I want to get out of here.

00:33:56.000 I just want the doctor to say, get out of here.

00:33:58.000 It's not that.

00:33:59.000 That's what I want.

00:34:01.000 I want the get out of here.

00:34:03.000 That's what I want.

00:34:05.000 I want someone to say, get out of here, Nikki Haley. 0.93

00:34:09.000 Come on. 1.00

00:34:11.000 I don't want, well, you know, she's peeing. 1.00

00:34:13.000 It might happen.

00:34:14.000 It may not happen.

00:34:16.000 Now, I'll be honest.

00:34:17.000 I do not think Trump will end up picking her, especially because Tucker, Matt Gates, Don Jr., Steve Bannon, Jack, this program, we've been very clear about what that would mean for the movement.

00:34:31.000 But I just want you to imagine this visual.

00:34:33.000 This is the most persuasive visual I can give.

00:34:35.000 Here you have this beautiful nominating convention for Donald Trump.

00:34:39.000 And you try to bring out who's the keynote speaker the night before the last night, so the second last night, you bring out the vice presidential nominee, and Nikki gets booed into oblivion.

00:34:48.000 If that is even potentially a threat, probably not a good idea to pick that person as vice president. 0.97

00:34:57.000 Get out the vote, get out the vote.

00:34:58.000 There is no excuse to stay home.

00:35:01.000 Do your part.

00:35:02.000 Do your job.

00:35:03.000 Show up, caucus, win.

00:35:07.000 Show up, caucus, win.

00:35:11.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:12.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:15.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:35:16.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - January 15, 2024

Iowa Caucus Day — Everything You Need to Know

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