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00:00:08.000And Libby Emmons about WPATH and how gender mutilation surgery is being normalized in our country.
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00:01:40.000Another issue that I wish Republicans would talk about is the medical mutilation of our children.
00:01:46.000There is a fringe organization out there, which I believe has ties to the Pritzker family, only because of where it's located and amongst other things.
00:01:55.000And also, the Pritzkers have a huge trans activist in their family called WPATH, World Professional Association for Transgender Health.
00:02:07.000And they are recently, they have recently announced that they probably will, at their upcoming conference, change the guidelines of what will be acceptable for breast removal and other just unspeakable medical procedures, surgical procedures, on children.
00:02:28.000Now, I say it's fringe because it would be considered a fringe group if it wasn't taken so seriously by children's hospitals.
00:02:35.000Children's hospitals then look at WPATH, the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, which, by the way, used to be called the World Gender Dysphoria Association, just an interesting side note.
00:02:46.000They then look at these guidelines, the children's hospitals like Boston's Children or Seattle's Children or Chicago's Children's Hospital.
00:02:53.000I think it's called Northwestern something.
00:02:55.000They have a leading children's hospital, Phoenix Children.
00:02:57.000And then, if the World Professional Association in Transgender Health lowers their standards for the age, they then follow suit.
00:03:06.000We have an expert here to help us unpack this.
00:03:09.000Libby Emmons from the wonderful website, The Postmillennial, joins us right now.
00:03:17.000So, Libby, walk us through this story and tell our audience the significance of them changing their guidelines.
00:03:24.000So, WPATH, World Professional Association for Transgender Health, is coming up with, they have some new guidelines.
00:03:32.000They are set to release them pretty soon.
00:03:34.000They're having a big conference up in Montreal the weekend after this one with Dr. Rachel Levine as a keynote speaker.
00:03:43.000I'm sure that's very exciting for everyone.
00:03:45.000So, the new standards of care, standards of care eight, will be coming out.
00:03:49.000And they do, as you say, lower the age guidelines for some of these very invasive gender transitions for kids, medicalized gender transitions for kids.
00:04:04.000There is a lowering of the recommended age for young girls to get double mastectomies of their healthy breasts in order to make them appear more male.
00:04:17.000The age for hysterectomies and vaginoplasties goes down to 17.
00:04:24.000And as you say, yes, children's hospitals across the country, many across the world, use these standards of care that WPATH puts out to guide their practices in performing surgeries and giving these kinds of drugs to kids.
00:04:46.000So you have these children's hospitals that they could make whatever decision they want, but they want an excuse because they know they're going to receive backlash.
00:04:55.000The same way that the Los Angeles County Health Department would lean on the CDC, or they would lean on the FDA, or they would lean on the NAAID to try to say, hey, well, they say it's okay, therefore we can do it.
00:05:14.000And the same is happening with children's hospitals, where the children's hospitals are effectively now saying, well, WPATH says it's okay to medically mutilate a 15-year-old.
00:05:27.000And there is this pipeline between hospitals and schools and these organizations.
00:05:33.000So, Libby, can you just make sure our audience understands this is not like counseling.
00:05:40.000This is irreversible medical mutilation damage that in any other decent society would be considered torture or abuse of a child.
00:05:54.000The president of WPATH right now is Dr. Marcy Bowers.
00:05:59.000Bowers is trans as well and did some of the surgeries on Jazz Jennings, who was a reality star who very notably went on puberty blockers so young that by the time Jennings underwent vaginoplasty, there was not actually enough genital material to create the appearance of opposite sex genitals.
00:06:23.000And there were astounding numbers of complications from that.
00:06:27.000So Bowers also has come out very publicly and said that children who go on puberty blockers and then cross-sex hormones proceeding toward transition will actually never achieve sexual satisfaction, that this is just not something that is climax is not something that is possible for these kids when they go along this path.
00:06:52.000Bowers still advocates for the medical gender transition of kids and thinks this is a problem that doctors will be able to solve in the future.
00:07:02.000And right now is guiding these standards and is guiding this for kids.
00:07:26.000Female genital mutilation refers to all procedures involving partial or total removal of female external genitalia or other injury to the female genital organs for non-medical reasons.
00:07:38.000Now, they consider this to be medical, right?
00:07:43.000And then they have an entire thing on UNICEF.org about how all these countries in Kenya and otherwise have genital mutilation, how terrible it is.
00:07:53.000And what you're trying to tell me is sponsored by our own children's hospitals, that genital mutilation will not just be allowed, but it will be encouraged.
00:08:03.000And again, it's one thing to think, you know, when you're eight years old, you think you can eat dirt, or if you're 11 years old, you know, you think you can fly.
00:08:10.000If you're 16 years old, you might think you're a girl.
00:08:14.000But you, okay, again, I think that it should be obviously immediately intervened.
00:08:18.000And sanity should be restored if a 16-year-old thinks they're a different gender or sex than they are, of which gender and sex are related.
00:08:24.000But it's a totally different leap, isn't it, Libby?
00:08:26.000Where it's like, oh, and by the way, we're going to put you under general anesthesia for a multi-hour surgery.
00:08:32.000We're going to be paid our full hourly surgical rate to destroy your body.
00:08:37.000Why is there not more outrage about this?
00:08:40.000You know, I think that there's not more outrage for a couple of reasons.
00:08:44.000One, I think when you approach people and you let them know that this is what's going on, they are incredulous because it is absolutely insane.
00:08:52.000So when I talk to friends of mine who are liberal and I say this is going on, they say things like, no, that's not going on because it's just so absolutely insane and they don't want to look at it.
00:09:02.000Another reason that it's another reason that it's kind of swept under the rug is that mainstream media also does that same thing.
00:09:10.000And they say this isn't really happening.
00:09:12.000So when we see that it's exposed, when we see Boston Children's Hospital using promotional videos to explain that vaginoplasties on 17-year-old boys is a perfectly great and affirming, wonderful thing to do.
00:09:26.000And we expose that and we write about it and we say, hey, everybody, this is going on.
00:09:48.000Chris Elston has recorded a bunch of them.
00:09:52.000Christina Buttons, writing for us, wrote about the Boston Children's Hospital situation.
00:09:56.000Libs of TikTok goes out there and calls National Children's Hospital in D.C. and says, Hey, would you perform a hysterectomy on my 16-year-old?
00:10:04.000And the next thing you know, she's banned on Twitter.
00:10:07.000And the Washington Post says she's targeting national.
00:10:10.000National says, hey, those employees don't know what they're talking about.
00:10:14.000But, you know, they scrub their websites, these hospitals.
00:10:18.000And the next thing you know, nobody knows about it.
00:10:20.000Insurance companies are being encouraged to cover this by the Department of Health and Human Services, which of course has assistant secretary Rachel Levine, who is speaking at the WPAC conference when they advocate for these new standards of care.
00:10:36.000One fun thing to note in the new standards of care, there is a new gender identity being launched, that of UNICEF.
00:10:44.000Unich is now going to be a gender identity.
00:10:48.000And in the section where they talk about Unix as a gender identity, yeah, get this.
00:10:55.000They link to websites that fetishize castration and have graphic discussions about forcible castration and rape of children.
00:11:08.000I mean, we say we're going back to the medieval times at times.
00:11:10.000We're literally going back, not just that, we're going back to the going back to the Ottoman Empire where eunuchs used to, it was required, I think, for service to the king to actually have your parts removed.
00:11:30.000And now we now have Unix being celebrated.
00:11:34.000Libby, can you talk about how Pfizer and these major companies stand to make billions off of children that are being preyed on by weak parents and these predatory doctors and institutions?
00:11:49.000Yeah, so Lupron is manufactured by a company called AbV.
00:11:53.000And AbV recommends Lupron for precocious puberty, endometriosis, as well as prostate cancer, which is what I believe it was developed to treat.
00:12:04.000They say that it should only be used for three months.
00:12:08.000The FDA also doesn't recommend this for gender dysphoria.
00:12:12.000However, the drug between 2020 and 2021, I believe, increased in sales by some $30 million.
00:12:21.000And Lupron does sell for this purpose.
00:12:24.000It is the main puberty blocker that I believe is used in the U.S., although there are others.
00:12:31.000So ABVI does stand to make a lot of money from this.
00:12:34.000It was interesting because you were on Laura Ingram Ingram's show the other night talking about this.
00:12:42.000And as I was watching, there was an advertisement for AbVee Pharmaceuticals.
00:12:47.000And I thought, now, isn't that interesting that they're on TV right now talking about how dangerous this is.
00:12:54.000And here's this company buying Ad Time with Fox to talk about how amazing their products are that are actually harming children.
00:13:02.000The FDA recently came out and said that Lupron puberty blockers can create really big problems in kids, not even as regards gender, but vision loss, brain swelling, bone loss.
00:13:17.000There's all of these kinds of issues with this stuff.
00:13:21.000I also think it's really interesting to note that Finland two years ago said that there should not be any medical gender transition under 25.
00:14:25.000Definitely not for the gender development program.
00:14:27.000And it's important to note, these gender development programs are not a majority of what these hospitals do, but it's a growing kind of department here.
00:14:34.000This is an advertisement that the Ann and Robert H. Lurie Children's Hospital of Chicago runs, PlayCut 97.
00:14:42.000Without the gender program, I would not be nearly as happy as I am now.
00:14:47.000Gender program has meant the world to me because it basically gave me the chance to start my life.
00:14:52.000I'm a senior in high school, and I'm, quite frankly, the happiest I've ever been.
00:14:57.000I'm so far in my transition, and things are going so well.
00:15:00.000And I feel like I can really move on with my life and become an adult.
00:15:06.000Yeah, but Libby, they actually become clients of the pharmaceutical industrial complex.
00:15:10.000They have lifelong issues because of this.
00:15:12.000And psychologically, the data actually shows they're far from free from mental terror.
00:15:18.000They might have a short reprieve, but then it gets almost worse after five or 10 years.
00:15:23.000So if you're a young woman and you go on testosterone, you're going to experience really big increases in confidence and feelings that, you know, feeling good in the world, that's something testosterone does, as many men I'm sure can attest to.
00:15:40.000So yeah, no wonder you're feeling great.
00:15:42.000Testosterone probably feels amazing, but it's not going to feel great when it turns out you're in your 20s or 30s.
00:15:49.000You can't have kids and you can't really experience intimacy and your body has been permanently butchered.
00:15:54.000You are now a lifelong medical patient.
00:15:57.000You will be involved in the medical industry until you die.
00:16:03.000Even detransitioning brings with it a lot of medical needs because you have all of these irreversible conditions as you know, as we've seen.
00:16:14.000And Lurie is not the only children's hospital that is promoting this.
00:16:18.000We have a doctor in California, in LA, Dr. Joanna Olson Kennedy, who actually treated the child of one of the ABC executives who then came out against DeSantis's parental rights and education bill after having had this personal experience with Olson Kennedy in LA.
00:16:38.000And Olson Kennedy is very interested in lowering the ages for puberty blockers so that kids don't have to go through what she calls wrong puberty.
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00:21:20.000That's been going on for a number of years.
00:21:23.000And the reason, I think, is that I am one of the few openly conservative, right-of-center Ivy League law professors left standing.
00:21:35.000You only have to read the newspaper to know that law professors in the elite schools, anyway, but really all up and down scale, are overwhelmingly left-wing.
00:21:48.000They are Democrats, and now they are far left-wing.
00:21:52.000They are what we might call woke and progressive.
00:21:56.000And pretty much that philosophy has taken over our law schools and influenced what our law students are taught.
00:22:09.000Well, back in 2017, I co-wrote a very innocuous op-ed in my local paper praising bourgeois values and saying that we could learn a lot from the 1950s and the way things were done back then,
00:22:25.000adding that not all cultures are equal and some are better than others, which is a sentiment or an idea that is pretty mainstream out there in the real world, but in academia, it's considered outrageous.
00:22:41.000Then the trolling started, and someone noticed that I had dared to discuss affirmative action with Glenn Lowry on his Glen Schlope show Blogging Heads and had commented that in my experience, black students who benefit from affirmative action don't perform academically on average as well as white students, something that's been documented a number of times.
00:23:12.000I went to a national conservatism convention and I suggested that we ought to confine immigration to people from countries that were more culturally similar to ours.
00:23:24.000And this was picked up as I wanted whites to come to America and not non-whites, which is a complete misrepresentation of what I said.
00:23:34.000I will not go on and on with the details.
00:23:36.000I will only tell you that my every word has been monitored and the school has been preparing a brief of evidence against me as someone who shouldn't be teaching at Pen Law.
00:23:59.000We have gotten to a point in academia today and in legal academia specifically, where people who could call themselves conservatives or Republicans or right of center are no longer wanted in academia.
00:24:18.000There is a movement afoot to exclude them, to get rid of them, and to consolidate the woke takeover of the academic sphere of our universities.
00:24:31.000And the attempt to fire me, the complaints that have been filed against me, and my dean's effort to seek major sanctions against me, that includes firing me, canceling me, is just a small part of that overall effort.
00:24:48.000So I am just exhibit A of what is going on, and my case is now ongoing.
00:24:56.000Well, what you just articulated, and we could go through the details, we don't need to.
00:25:00.000You've said some very mainstream opinions.
00:25:02.000I mean, talking about immigration changes and talking about Western civilization being a culture that is ideal to, I don't know, that of North Korea's or the current state of Iran is, like you said, mainstream opinion in anywhere but an Ivy League institution.
00:25:18.000What I find fascinating, though, but it definitely is consistent, is how they need to focus on the one conservative voice, that they're making it a passion project to eliminate the single heterodox person at University of Pennsylvania.
00:25:37.000Well, my students who are insightful and they know what's going on, they say, aha, this is the warning to others, as the French say.
00:25:48.000This sends the signal and the message, and they get the message loud and clear that if you express these sorts of views, if you even explore these ideas in any way,
00:26:03.000we're not necessarily signing on to them, but just talking about them, debating them, going back and forth about them as real people in the real world do in living rooms and private spaces all over the country, that they will bring charges against you.
00:26:30.000So, the message, the broader message that they get from going after one person like me is to say to everyone in the university community, shut up.
00:26:43.000And what you said, I think, is very true.
00:26:46.000There are tens of millions of people out there who don't haven't drunk the Kool-Aid, don't subscribe to the narrow range of stylized opinions and views that are acceptable on campus, a kind of woke catechism, who question it.
00:27:07.000And they are essentially being squeezed out.
00:27:11.000They're being squeezed out by direct action, as with me, but the more subtle ways they're being excluded is just not being allowed to enter in the first place.
00:27:23.000So they're screened at the admissions level.
00:27:25.000They're screened at the level of getting grants, of getting promotions, all of the sort of ways in which the university regulates itself are now being brought to bear to screen out the kind of people that they don't want.
00:27:43.000And as a result, the universities are getting more and more left.
00:27:50.000But I'll tell you why we should care because what it does is it creates an atmosphere of educational malpractice.
00:27:58.000I have had students regularly tell me, students who take, let's say, my course in conservative thought, these are ideas that we are not even aware of.
00:28:10.000They have been systematically wrung out of our prior education.
00:28:16.000Some law students say, you wouldn't believe how one-sided our education has been.
00:28:23.000Classic conservative arguments and classic conservative works are either just ignored or they are sneeringly dismissed as not worthy of attention.
00:28:36.000So students are being primed and they are being groomed, shall we say, to be social justice warriors and lefties.
00:28:47.000And I don't think that is good preparation for citizenship.
00:28:52.000It's certainly not good preparation for being a lawyer in an adversary system, which is the system we still have, where lawyers have to deal with and hear and understand and counter arguments and positions that they don't agree with and that they find offensive or upsetting, right?
00:29:17.000We all have to confront and deal with arguments that we find upsetting.
00:29:23.000And that's precisely what we're doing.
00:29:40.000These are people that will be staffing the FBI and the CIA.
00:29:44.000These are people that are going to be staffing the highest levels of power in our society that have said, I've never heard the other side of the story.
00:29:52.000So your fight is incredibly important here.
00:30:03.000How can people support you and help you?
00:30:06.000Well, money is the currency of the realm, as you can imagine.
00:30:12.000I have a fantasy that I would wake up tomorrow morning and no one would give a penny more to the Ives.
00:30:21.000Right now, the alumni and various foundations are just pouring money in their direction, and they're already fabulously wealthy, so they don't even need it.
00:30:30.000And as long as that happens, they are oblivious to criticism or to any sort of voice from the outside.
00:30:40.000So it's really important for alumni to stop giving, for the foundations to stop giving, and direct your money elsewhere.
00:30:49.000Obviously, people are afraid to speak up because they're punished for going up against wokeness or saying anything that doesn't please the elite upper classes.
00:34:07.000It's the easiest thing in the world to find my email address at Penn Law, and I will give you the address if you didn't quite catch it.
00:34:15.000So there are a number of ways to contribute to my fund.
00:34:19.000But, you know, once again, this is very difficult.
00:34:23.000I think talk to your kids, realize, and I think this is something that is going to be happening in the future, that the IVs are, their brand is being debased.
00:34:38.000Because there is a wholesale attack on the meritocracy going on in our society right now.
00:34:44.000There's a big affirmative action case before the Supreme Court.
00:34:48.000If Harvard and UNC, the two schools involved, lose that case, I think what they're going to end up doing is getting rid of the SATs, getting rid of measures of academic excellence and ability in order to get around this raceblind mandate, which is that we should have.
00:35:09.000And I don't think these schools in the long run are going to be the great beacons of excellence that they think they are.
00:35:17.000But, you know, and there are other great schools too, like Hillsdale.