The Charlie Kirk Show - December 08, 2022


Is a Trump Indictment Inevitable? with Kash Patel and Pedro Gonzalez


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Pedro Gonzalez and Kash Patel join us to talk about the Britney Greiner Trade, the Trump Tax Fraud Indictment, and much more! Come to AmericaFest in Phoenix, Arizona on Dec. 17-19. Get your tickets today!

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, Pedro Gonzalez joins us.
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00:01:20.000 Joining us now is Kash Patel.
00:01:22.000 He has an amazing book out, The Plot Against the King, 2,000 Meals.
00:01:26.000 Cash, welcome back to the program.
00:01:27.000 Hey, Charlie, how you doing?
00:01:29.000 Doing terrific.
00:01:30.000 So, Cash, I want to walk through a couple things with you.
00:01:32.000 The first of which, Citizen Free Press, love Citizen Free Press.
00:01:36.000 They do a wonderful job.
00:01:37.000 They have a headline here that says, just a matter of time before Trump is indicted.
00:01:42.000 Are you seeing those kind of whispers as well?
00:01:45.000 I mean, I'm not saying it's fair or it's warranted, but do you think that the MAGA base should brace for a Trump indictment?
00:01:55.000 I think I'm seeing and reading everything you are.
00:01:57.000 And I think what the DOJ wants to do here is if they fall short of their goal of getting into an actual indictment, they want to dirty him up so much that he just leaves the presidential race now that he's announced.
00:02:10.000 And look, being a former federal prosecutor myself at a time when the Department of Justice was, you know, just and fair, comparing it to the DOJ now, they'll indict anyone for anything if it's a political target and they have a justification for it in politics and not necessarily facts in the law.
00:02:28.000 And that does terrify me as just an American citizen.
00:02:30.000 So I don't have faith in this DOJ to do the right thing.
00:02:34.000 That is what the facts and the law demand.
00:02:35.000 No, and I'm not saying Trump deserves it, but I'm saying it could still happen because this Department of Justice is so out of control.
00:02:43.000 And not to mention, there is the Fulton County story.
00:02:46.000 And by the way, so from what I understand, and I want to make sure I get this right, the jury in New York said, okay, well, the Trump organization committed tax fraud, but I think it was they just have to pay a fine, if I'm not mistaken, right?
00:02:59.000 Well, that's what happens in tax fraud cases.
00:03:01.000 I mean, it's shocking to me that America is now saying they've forgotten how tax fraud cases actually work.
00:03:07.000 The big corporations, the fat cat limousine liberals that have all been charged and convicted of tax fraud pay fines.
00:03:13.000 And so Trump organization will pay a fine for whatever amount the court determines.
00:03:18.000 It's not a criminal liability on President Trump personally or any member of his family.
00:03:23.000 They say, oh, convicted of tax fraud.
00:03:25.000 It's, you know, if you would have asked the Trump people, hey, a couple years ago, pay $2 million and have this go away.
00:03:32.000 I think they would have took the deal.
00:03:33.000 I mean, just in legal fees alone.
00:03:36.000 And what they're being, I mean, you read the indictment, Cash, it's like, oh, well, they had unauthorized use of a company car.
00:03:43.000 Like, oh, really?
00:03:45.000 Why don't you go audit the 95,000 businesses in, I don't know, Miami?
00:03:51.000 I mean, give me a break.
00:03:52.000 Trying to tell me this is worth New York City while they have murders and rapes and arson happening in record numbers.
00:04:00.000 I mean, Cash, this is beyond prosecutorial abuse.
00:04:04.000 No, it's a two-tier system of justice.
00:04:05.000 I mean, go investigate and prosecute the Clinton Global Initiative for tax fraud.
00:04:09.000 You know, look at all these other organizations and big banks and committee companies that basically the DOJ goes to and say, hey, pay us a bunch of millions of dollars and the case is over.
00:04:20.000 And it's how we resolve these meetings.
00:04:23.000 It shows you that they didn't do that for this case because they wanted a political end result and a headline that could prop up in the fake news media to make it sound like something that it's not because they've created this DOJ has created a two-tier system of justice.
00:04:36.000 And we are squarely in one lane and the rest of America is in the get-out of jail free lane.
00:04:42.000 So I want to talk now about the Twitter story, Let's Play Cut 68.
00:04:48.000 Jean-Pierre on whether Biden campaign acknowledged the Twitter suppressing laptop story, PlayCut 68.
00:04:54.000 Did anyone from the Biden team communicate to Twitter that this material was from hack or this reporting stemmed from hack materials?
00:05:06.000 So I can't speak to decisions made by the campaign from here.
00:05:12.000 That is not, it is a political campaign, so I can't speak from that from here to that from here.
00:05:17.000 I'm covered by the Hatch Act, and so I'm just not going to comment on the question that you're asking me.
00:05:22.000 But what I can say more broadly is, of course, it's up to these companies to make their own decision about the content on their platforms and to ensure content follows their own standards and policies.
00:05:34.000 Yeah, no, so now she's covered by the Hatch Act, but when she wants to attack MAGA Republicans from the dais, it's perfectly fine.
00:05:40.000 Yeah, the Hatch Act doesn't allow me to comment on this.
00:05:43.000 By the way, it's MAGA Republicans that are going to which one is it exactly, Jean-Pierre?
00:05:47.000 So, so Cashi, you're in a unique spot, though, to be able to explain this because the same people, behaviors, attitudes, and treachery that gave us the Russia hoax also gave us the 2020 Twitter hoax. 0.59
00:06:02.000 Explain.
00:06:03.000 Look, I've been saying forever, all roads lead back to Russia gate.
00:06:06.000 Now maybe people will start listening.
00:06:08.000 And I called out Elon Musk before he ever fired or got wind of James Baker.
00:06:12.000 And I said, how is the guy who's the number one FBI lawyer who orchestrated the Russiagate hoax and lied to a federal court?
00:06:19.000 How is he allowed to call balls and strikes on your censorship operation or your operation a clean house of censorship?
00:06:26.000 And I said he was screening the material and people challenged me and I said, lo and behold, look what happened.
00:06:31.000 You have a long way to go.
00:06:32.000 This guy partnered up with the Democratic law firm Perkins Cooey, who is still Twitter's outside law partner, by the way, just in case you're wondering.
00:06:41.000 So they are so embedded with the FBI and for Janine Pierre or whatever her name is to say, oh, I can't comment it on because of the hatch act.
00:06:48.000 The hatch act has nothing to do with that.
00:06:50.000 She just didn't want to answer the question, which was, of course, Biden officials communicated with Twitter and the FBI in regards to censoring free speech at Twitter when it came to Hunter Biden's laptop, which is why I'm demanding this Congress coming into Republicans subpoena every FBI communication.
00:07:08.000 Do you think James Baker didn't communicate with his cronies back at FBI HQ?
00:07:11.000 Do you think he didn't talk to Michael Sussman and company at Perkins Cooey, who is Twitter's outside counsel?
00:07:17.000 I mean, really?
00:07:18.000 Is that the far-fetched story we're supposed to believe?
00:07:21.000 I've thrown down the gauntlet for Elon Musk.
00:07:23.000 I said, this is a one-yard rush.
00:07:24.000 You got 99 to go.
00:07:26.000 You want a really, really clear free speech?
00:07:28.000 You need to learn about Russia Gate and the characters involved and then see how many of them were operating in your hornet's nest at Twitter.
00:07:34.000 Yeah, that's such an important point.
00:07:36.000 All roads lead back to Russia Gate because the failure to hold those people accountable for the 2016 crimes, 1516 actually started as early as 15, believe it or not, with Struckstroke Smirk and Lisa Page.
00:07:48.000 They're just going to keep on doing it.
00:07:50.000 And, you know, the Durham thing was a big swing and a miss.
00:07:55.000 Is that over with, by the way?
00:07:56.000 Is it still going on?
00:07:58.000 Technically, it's still going on because he hasn't submitted a report.
00:08:02.000 And, you know, maybe he'll do something in January, February.
00:08:07.000 But you're right, right?
00:08:08.000 So far, he produced indictments, but he didn't produce convictions.
00:08:12.000 And we've talked about that.
00:08:13.000 And, you know, I don't know.
00:08:15.000 Is he going to cover James Baker?
00:08:17.000 He should, but we'll see.
00:08:19.000 I'm glad Elon did fire James Baker after there was a fair amount of alarm, you know, kind of surrounded on that.
00:08:26.000 But if you, this is one of the reasons why, you know, yesterday went through a whole thing of people that say, I'm no longer voting.
00:08:31.000 I'm no longer voting.
00:08:32.000 I think that's wrong.
00:08:32.000 I think it's incorrect.
00:08:33.000 But I do understand the sentiment in the sense of no one got held accountable for Russia gate.
00:08:38.000 No one, Peter Struckstroke Smirk is richer than ever and teaching at Georgetown and goes on television.
00:08:44.000 Andy McCabe is just, it is an insult to every American that pays their taxes and obeys the law and raises their children.
00:08:57.000 And they see these treacherous criminals just completely get away with it.
00:09:02.000 I really sympathize with the anger.
00:09:06.000 In fact, I share it.
00:09:07.000 I just think you can't allow that to manifest into non-civic participation.
00:09:11.000 That's where I have a difference, a strong difference of opinion.
00:09:14.000 So, Cash, 30 seconds.
00:09:16.000 This Twitter thing is rather remarkable to just show the extent of the federal government's involvement in suppressing public discourse.
00:09:26.000 And look, I'm the Russia Gate guy.
00:09:28.000 I got more in this personally than anyone.
00:09:30.000 I investigated for Devin Nunes.
00:09:32.000 We got 17 people fired, including James Baker.
00:09:35.000 It looks like I got James Baker fired twice.
00:09:37.000 But you're right, the lack of accountability is so frustrating.
00:09:41.000 And if people think this one step of firing James Baker is going to save Twitter, Elon Musk has a whole thing coming.
00:09:47.000 I can't wait to come back on your show and talk to you about the dozens of FBI agents that were probably embedded with personal relationships with Twitter employees and DOJ and whatnot.
00:09:56.000 Just wait till these emails.
00:09:58.000 I want to expose that.
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00:12:35.000 I also want to talk about Truth Social.
00:12:38.000 I think that it's not appreciated enough the role that Truth Social is playing in actually making Twitter a more freer platform.
00:12:47.000 So Elon knows that if he doesn't miss steps at Twitter, there could be a mass movement away from Twitter back to not just back, but increasing the truth social.
00:12:58.000 So competition is a really healthy and good thing.
00:13:00.000 So I want to play cut 40, Josh Hawley on Tucker Carlson talking about the collusion of big tech disinformation board.
00:13:08.000 Very interesting play cut 40.
00:13:10.000 Well, what we learned, Tucker, is that there's collusion at the highest levels of government and big tech.
00:13:15.000 We learned that the Disinformation Board was up and running as early as the first part of this year.
00:13:20.000 They were meeting weekly.
00:13:21.000 That's not, by the way, what Alexander Alejandro Mayorka said, by the way, he said that, oh no, the board never met.
00:13:28.000 They were meeting on a weekly basis.
00:13:28.000 Not true.
00:13:30.000 They were giving instructions to other components of the U.S. government and they were meeting with big tech.
00:13:35.000 They wanted to meet with Twitter.
00:13:36.000 They reached out to Facebook and liberal dark money groups.
00:13:40.000 We're also in on the act, as it turns out.
00:13:42.000 And so, Cash, what we found is: I mean, this again, it's so similar to Russia Gate.
00:13:46.000 It's the same playbook, right?
00:13:48.000 It's the blueprint.
00:13:50.000 These people have not changed, and they're going to keep on running this play of interference of synthetic dossiers and fake stories or the interruption of the only difference between RussiaGate and Twittergate, the only difference that I could really pinpoint is that with RussiaGate, they had to create a fake dossier and then distribute fake information.
00:14:13.000 With Twittergate, there was a legitimate laptop that they had to then suppress.
00:14:17.000 Your thoughts, Cash?
00:14:19.000 Yeah, look, I haven't heard it put quite that way, but I think you're right.
00:14:24.000 And the frustration that everybody has is what you would be talking about at the end.
00:14:28.000 What's going to happen?
00:14:29.000 What's the accountability?
00:14:30.000 And look, you know, I'll keep going ahead and doing the work, and my bias is completely out there.
00:14:35.000 I'm obviously on the board of Truth Social, so I want more people there.
00:14:38.000 But it's like President Trump said, we're not out there to defeat Twitter.
00:14:42.000 He's actually called for Elon to do the job of clearing the free speech platform.
00:14:46.000 I think one major step in combating the disinformation campaign is to defeat the government's ability to cause censorship, is to defeat big tech, Facebook, and Google and Twitter to prevent them from having these individuals come in and run disinformation campaigns for them, like the Hunter Biden laptop, like the 51 intelligence officials, and then rig it and tie it to a presidential election.
00:15:09.000 I think those are powerful measures the private industry can take.
00:15:12.000 And I think what Congress can do, and I've talked about this in your show on the path, all budgeting measures start and end in the House of Representatives.
00:15:19.000 Republicans control the purse.
00:15:20.000 That's it.
00:15:21.000 It's their time to act.
00:15:23.000 If you're telling me the FBI and DOJ don't have contracts with Twitter and Facebook, yeah, let's kill all those contracts yesterday.
00:15:29.000 Let's stop spending our taxpayer dollars on these heathens who are running these disinformation campaigns.
00:15:34.000 There is a great movie.
00:15:36.000 I think it's Jason Born.
00:15:37.000 I get these all confused.
00:15:38.000 But no, but there's a really good thing, I think it's the last one of the Born series.
00:15:42.000 I'm bringing this up for a reason.
00:15:44.000 Where there is this tech guy that's played in the movie, he's actually an Indian tech guy.
00:15:48.000 And he's, I don't know if you've seen this movie or not, but he's controlled in the movie by the intelligence agencies, who's actually played by Tommy Lee Jones.
00:15:58.000 And there is a fair amount of evidence and speculation that Zuckerberg out of the gate from the very beginning made a deal with the intelligence agencies.
00:16:07.000 And so did Twitter.
00:16:08.000 That the intelligence agency saw that the era of social media is here and we better be able to control these companies.
00:16:14.000 That if they are truly unregulated and they're not under our purview, the regime very well might be disrupted and people might actually think for themselves.
00:16:23.000 I'm going to think, I think it's the Jason Bourne movie.
00:16:25.000 I could think about it.
00:16:27.000 I could be wrong.
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00:16:48.000 It was based on some speculation that Facebook was always, ever since their IPO, an intelligence operation.
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00:18:37.000 Pedro, welcome back to the program.
00:18:39.000 Always good to be here, Charlie.
00:18:40.000 So, Pedro, you have a very interesting piece, No Country for White Men, the Story of Paul Whalen.
00:18:46.000 Tell us about it.
00:18:48.000 So you may have heard today that the United States released a Britney Griner.
00:18:52.000 She plays for what is probably the most irrelevant sports in the United States, women's basketball. 1.00
00:18:59.000 But she's more notorious for the fact that she took a very vocal stance against America, essentially, during the BLM riots. 1.00
00:19:08.000 She protested the playing of the national anthem during games.
00:19:11.000 This is just someone who's generally unpleasant.
00:19:14.000 And she happened to end up in Russian prison earlier this year when she was detained for traveling in the country with cannabis products, which are illegal in Russia.
00:19:26.000 Well, Griner was just released as part of a prisoner exchange with a Russian arms dealer who's known as the merchant of death because of how gruesome and vast his weapons dealing enterprise is.
00:19:40.000 Now, Paul Whalen, unfortunately, has been in prison since 2018.
00:19:44.000 He was detained under basically, Whalen believes that he was detained actually as part of a plot by the Russian government to fabricate a reason for holding an American captive and then using that American to release the arms dealer that the United States just released in order to get Brittany Greiner out of prison in Russia.
00:20:05.000 So Paul Whalen has been in prison since 2018.
00:20:08.000 He's sentenced to a 16-year prison or prison sentence at a high security facility that's outside of Moscow.
00:20:16.000 It's a very grim, grim Russian prison, right?
00:20:19.000 And Russian prisons are all grim, so that says something.
00:20:24.000 So Paul Whalen has basically been asking for the United States to get him out for a while now.
00:20:30.000 But Brittany Greiner didn't seem to have to ask all that much.
00:20:33.000 And something else that you should know about Paul Whalen is the fact that he was a U.S. Marine.
00:20:37.000 He also worked as a police officer in Michigan.
00:20:40.000 He, and most, you know, I think this is actually what counts against him the most, or two things really, is that he's a white man on the other hand.
00:20:49.000 And on the one hand, and on the other hand, he expressed support for Donald Trump before and after he was elected.
00:20:57.000 So I think that the story of Whalen, when you put it in the context of the fact that the United States just tried really, really hard and successfully freed Brittany Greiner, but continues to ignore Whalen, I mean, that says something about the United States and basically who is rewarded and who is punished in this country.
00:21:18.000 You say in your piece, or you allude to it, that race has something to do with this.
00:21:25.000 Tell us why you believe that.
00:21:29.000 Yeah, I mean, no one cares about, you know, Paul Nicholas Whalen, the white former U.S. Marine, and certainly was a former cop, right?
00:21:37.000 So that counts against him too, who's just rotting in a Russian prison.
00:21:41.000 And who is, I mean, it's funny because the CIA, not that their word is worth much, but the fact that Paul Whalen was an outspoken Trump supporter makes me believe the CIA when they said, yeah, he's not one of us.
00:21:55.000 He wasn't an intelligence asset in Russia.
00:21:58.000 The allegations against him by the Russians are fake.
00:22:01.000 We think that this was a plot to basically try to use him as leverage in order to release his name as Victor Bout, the arms dealer that was just released today in exchange for Brittany Griner.
00:22:15.000 So, I mean, yeah, I think that that's just the kind of sad reality is no one cares about the white American who's rotting in a Russian prison, right? 0.51
00:22:24.000 Like, what's there to care about?
00:22:25.000 But on the other hand, you have this outspoken, very brave female basketball player who wrote in her memoir that she felt very uncomfortable while at Baylor, where she went to school, because the university asked her, basically, she said the university has anti-gay policies.
00:22:47.000 And if you actually read the memoir, she doesn't really say what those are.
00:22:50.000 And as far as I can guess, it's just that the university asks that people who are not gay profess it from mountaintops, which apparently deeply wounded her, right?
00:23:00.000 Yeah, and look, I can say this.
00:23:01.000 I know something about Baylor.
00:23:02.000 She's just wrong.
00:23:03.000 Okay.
00:23:04.000 I mean, it's just wrong.
00:23:06.000 Anyway, continue.
00:23:08.000 No, it's just, I guess I'm trying to illustrate is the fact that, like, there is no both Whalen and Greiner, they're basically normal people, right?
00:23:22.000 The difference is, is that I think you could, if you put them on a kind of scale, Whalen has done more for this country.
00:23:28.000 He gave years of his life to military service, and then he worked a police officer, worked as a police officer, which is a thankless job, right?
00:23:35.000 So, I mean, two normal people, and when you kind of evaluate what they've done with their lives and what they've dedicated their lives to, it just seems to me that Whalen is kind of the one that we should prioritize, right?
00:23:47.000 As opposed to the one who says that if you play the national anthem during a basketball game, she's like an overpaid player, too, that she threatened to walk off the court if the national anthem was played. 0.96
00:24:00.000 And so, I mean, all things considered, what is the argument for prioritizing Brittany Griner over Paul Whalen?
00:24:09.000 And the only thing I can come up with is, well, Griner belongs to two basically sacred groups.
00:24:16.000 She's a black American and she's a lesbian. 1.00
00:24:19.000 So it makes her kind of unicorn, right? 0.54
00:24:22.000 And I'm not, you know, I'm not happy about this. 0.96
00:24:25.000 This doesn't bring me any joy, but I think it's just illustrative of how kind of stupid and malicious the U.S. empire is that we basically literally prioritize people and their worth based on which victim groups they belong to and how many victim groups they belong to. 0.90
00:24:43.000 Well, this is an important point, right? 0.97
00:24:44.000 Because far too often, I think conservatives get convinced, I'm thinking of the right word, hoodwinked, that these diversity, equity, inclusion games are nothing more than a harmful, annoying, like mental exercise on college campuses that have no real world implications, right?
00:25:06.000 Okay, so what?
00:25:07.000 That some kid had white privilege, you know, talked at him from some professor. 0.97
00:25:11.000 What you're getting at, Pedro, is now this is international geopolitical policy is that the regime of anti-whiteness, the pro-LGBT machinery, is no longer just people discussing this in a lecture hall or that crazy black professor the other day we showed where she said, we're going to abolish the plague of whiteness. 0.93
00:25:36.000 I think we still have that clip, Ryan.
00:25:38.000 Because that actually plays into this.
00:25:38.000 Let's get that.
00:25:40.000 What you're saying, Pedro, is no, now these are actions that are based on those bad ideas.
00:25:50.000 Your thoughts?
00:25:52.000 Yeah, no, I'm sorry.
00:25:53.000 I thought you were going to play a clip.
00:25:56.000 No, that's exactly right.
00:25:57.000 I think the way that we treat people like Paul Whalen and Brittany Grinder follows logically from that belief.
00:26:06.000 If you believe in things like affirmative action, if you believe in diversity, equity, and inclusion, then logically you're going to prioritize in something like something that's as high stakes as a prisoner exchange. 0.52
00:26:21.000 You're going to prioritize the person who you believe has more, to put it, I don't think there's another, there's no better way to put it than basically diversity points, which is exactly what happened here.
00:26:33.000 Because again, all things considered.
00:26:35.000 Yeah, social currency.
00:26:36.000 Yeah.
00:26:37.000 Yeah.
00:26:37.000 Because again, all things considered, these are two like normal people.
00:26:40.000 Neither of them is, you know, that doesn't take away from, you know, the basic human value here, but really they're both kind of just average Americans.
00:26:49.000 And yet we very rapidly and aggressively lobbied for Griner to be free.
00:26:58.000 Because again, Whalen has been behind bars for a few years now.
00:27:03.000 Everything that happened to Griner happened basically in the last year, and she's already free.
00:27:08.000 And I'm sure that we can expect another memoir that's going to solve very well.
00:27:12.000 I'm sure.
00:27:13.000 So what it's so important for people to recognize, you know, the work we're attempting to do at Turning Point USA and having a lot of success is to push back against this stuff.
00:27:21.000 DEI runs the entire American government.
00:27:23.000 So when you have these lunatics like this Rutgers professor saying that white people are committed to being villains, don't be shocked that when we do prisoner swaps, this ideology is factored into the calculus. 0.93
00:27:35.000 Play cut 23. 0.99
00:27:36.000 I think that white people are committed to being villains in the aggregate, right? 1.00
00:27:40.000 The thing I want to say to you is we got to take these motherfuckers out. 1.00
00:27:43.000 There is a world beyond even our sojourn on the earth. 1.00
00:27:47.000 And so whiteness is going to have an end date because it is not, despite what white people think of themselves, they do not defy the laws of eternity, right? 0.99
00:27:58.000 And that's the thing that white people don't trust us to do because they are so corrupt. 0.99
00:28:03.000 You know, their thinking is so morally and spiritually bankrupt about power. 0.98
00:28:08.000 So Pedro, we'll talk about this after the break.
00:28:10.000 But when you have, that's a Rutgers professor, a PhD, that is spouting that venom. 0.57
00:28:18.000 Don't be shocked when the president of the United States then has a private meeting and prioritizes on the hierarchy of decisions, the black lesbian basketball player above the white male.
00:28:34.000 And by the way, we want all Americans to come home. 1.00
00:28:37.000 Yes.
00:28:37.000 But a choice was made.
00:28:39.000 That's important.
00:28:40.000 Aristotle talked about the hierarchy of choices.
00:28:44.000 And you just saw the White House prioritize a basketball player who's also a black lesbian above a Marine who served his country.
00:28:56.000 Duty versus anti-Americanism.
00:29:00.000 Pedro, I want to ask you about the RNC race.
00:29:03.000 I'm not trying to make this personal.
00:29:05.000 I've known Rana for years.
00:29:06.000 She's always been very sweet to me, but I'm not going to tolerate losing.
00:29:11.000 Failure cannot become the new status quo.
00:29:13.000 I had a conversation with somebody who I really respect, and they said, well, the RNC did all these things right and they knocked on all these doors.
00:29:19.000 They said, you are conflating activity with results.
00:29:24.000 If you do not get the intended result, then there needs to be a management change.
00:29:27.000 Pedro, do you think it's time to shake up things at the top of the RNC?
00:29:31.000 Yeah, yeah, I do.
00:29:32.000 And I mean, because otherwise, the message is that failure is, not only are we indifferent to failure, we actually seem to reward it.
00:29:43.000 People get promoted by falling upwards, in other words.
00:29:47.000 That seems to be the story of the Republican Party, right?
00:29:49.000 Because, I mean, everyone knows that the GOP is very good at fundraising, in particular on outrage, on issues that the base really cares about, whether it's immigration or crime or whatever.
00:30:00.000 But then, and like you said, there's a whole lot of activity, right?
00:30:04.000 Obnoxious emails and texts all throughout the day that actually make you stop giving in many cases.
00:30:10.000 I mean, that's the irony of this stuff.
00:30:12.000 But there's a whole lot of activity, a whole lot of buzzing about it.
00:30:15.000 But then, in terms of material returns, like what you get for your time and money and your emotional, emotional investment as well, nothing or very little.
00:30:26.000 And I think that if we're not going to start punishing elements of GOP leadership, then again, the message is either you don't care or you actually reward people who are not good at their jobs.
00:30:37.000 Who do you think is best equipped to do that?
00:30:40.000 I'm not sure.
00:30:41.000 Like you, I'm not really a partisan for anyone.
00:30:45.000 There's been a lot of talk of someone like Harmit Dylan, I hope I'm pronouncing her first name correctly, filling that gap.
00:30:53.000 But the consensus more really seems to be that we need to replace Rana with someone to send a message.
00:31:01.000 And I actually don't think that that's a kind of cob-out because, of course, the criticism is that, well, Rana's bad, but the next person could be worse.
00:31:10.000 So we should just kind of maintain the status quo.
00:31:12.000 You hear that for not just Rana, but other elements of GOP leadership.
00:31:16.000 And again, I don't really agree with that.
00:31:18.000 If it does get worse, well, then that reflects even worse on the GOP.
00:31:22.000 And that sounds like a GOP problem.
00:31:24.000 And on the other hand, if we don't do anything, then again, we're just basically acquiescing to a party that is not only disconnected from its base, but also doesn't really actually accomplish anything.
00:31:36.000 And you hear this all the time, right?
00:31:38.000 Like, well, if we mess with income and geo-leadership, which is bad, things can really get worse a lot faster.
00:31:45.000 By my count, in the last like two or three months, the Republican Party has been pushing everything from the federal codification on same-sex marriage to amnesty.
00:31:57.000 You know, so it's like it already seems pretty bad.
00:32:00.000 Like the GOP is actually already seemingly furious.
00:32:04.000 We could get Ukrainian statehood soon.
00:32:07.000 That's right.
00:32:08.000 We could.
00:32:08.000 We could get Ukrainian statehood.
00:32:10.000 We could certainly find some more money.
00:32:11.000 Which, in a bizarre way, I would actually say that makes more sense than sending $100 billion unaudited.
00:32:18.000 I mean, if we're going to be an empire, we might as well actually be an empire.
00:32:22.000 But anyway, I know it's, I'm half kidding when I say that, by the way.
00:32:26.000 I'm saying, if you're going to send $100 billion into the breadbasket of Europe, wouldn't it make sense if you also have some skin in the game there?
00:32:33.000 It's like we want none of the benefit and all of the cost. 0.51
00:32:37.000 It's the silliest thing ever. 0.85
00:32:38.000 Okay. 0.92
00:32:39.000 So, and I'm half kidding about that, by the way.
00:32:41.000 Someone just emailed, someone just said in the chat, no, we do not need another state.
00:32:45.000 I wonder if Ukraine would be a red state or a blue state.
00:32:49.000 The eastern part would definitely be more red.
00:32:51.000 Okay, that's too much speculation.
00:32:53.000 Pedro, the point is this: one minute remaining, we need to have leader, we need to have a wholesale leadership change in attitude, personnel, and otherwise.
00:33:01.000 Final thoughts.
00:33:01.000 Yeah, that's it.
00:33:02.000 No, it's exactly right.
00:33:03.000 Because again, the message is that we don't care, that we're fine with the status quo.
00:33:09.000 And I think what's even worse than that is actually affirming the status quo and strengthening it and continuing to feed it with our dollars and time and attention.
00:33:17.000 And that to me is worse than being indifferent.
00:33:20.000 Pedro, excellent commentary as always.
00:33:22.000 For the record, I was kidding about Ukrainian statehood, just for the record, for all the trackers out there.
00:33:26.000 Thank you, Pedro.
00:33:26.000 Good to know.
00:33:27.000 Thank you.
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00:33:35.000 Oh, that's right.
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00:33:39.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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00:33:43.000 Thank you so much, and God bless.
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