The Charlie Kirk Show - Is Britain's Present America's Future? ft. Calvin Robinson

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody on the Charlie Kirk Show, Calvin Robinson, one of my favorite guests that we've ever had on the show from the UK.

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00:01:32.000 Mr. Calvin Robinson, did I get the prefix correct, or is it father, or is it...?

00:01:37.000 Whatever you're comfortable with.

00:01:39.000 It doesn't make a difference to me.

00:01:40.000 So you have been, I think this is public, kicked out of the Church of England?

00:01:43.000 Yes.

00:01:44.000 Kicked out of the Conservative Party in the UK?

00:01:47.000 Yes.

00:01:48.000 Tell us, why are you such a troublemaker?

00:01:51.000 The troublesome priest, right?

00:01:52.000 Because I speak the truth, or at least I try to.

00:01:55.000 I try to speak the Christian message in a country that used to be Christian, that has forgotten its way. 0.99

00:02:00.000 Well, the Conservative Party recently kicked me out because, and to quote them, some of my tweets may be seen as anti-Muslim, which paints the picture that they want a Christian cleric to be pro-Muslim or something.

00:02:12.000 I don't know what that is.

00:02:14.000 It's a universalist attitude that all faiths are equal, all ideas are equal, all cultures are equal, and that we should just treat everything the same.

00:02:20.000 That's a lie.

00:02:21.000 That's a grave, grave lie.

00:02:23.000 We know there is one truth.

00:02:24.000 His name is Jesus Christ.

00:02:26.000 But in England, that's old-fashioned.

00:02:29.000 So the Conservatives kicked me out for that.

00:02:31.000 So you're formally a member of the Church of England, which is the Anglican Church, is that correct?

00:02:36.000 So for our audience that don't know, that is not Catholic.

00:02:40.000 It is Protestant, but it has some of the same imagery And symbology of Catholicism.

00:02:45.000 Just do us a little bit of a 101 on Anglicanism.

00:02:48.000 I'll try, I'll try.

00:02:50.000 The Church of England obviously split during the Reformation, but it wasn't like the European Reformation.

00:02:55.000 So it wasn't a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

00:02:58.000 It was more a case of, how do we return to the roots of our country?

00:03:01.000 Bear in mind, since the 10th century, England has been Christian.

00:03:05.000 So it's been Christian for over a thousand years.

00:03:07.000 And at the point of the Reformation, they said, there's too much corruption in Rome.

00:03:12.000 We don't like that a foreign country is dictating policies to us. 1.00

00:03:15.000 Pretty much like Brexit, actually.

00:03:17.000 The Reformation for England was the first Brexit. 0.60

00:03:20.000 It said, we are an independent country, we don't want bishops in another land dictating to us the laws of this land.

00:03:25.000 And so we stepped away from Rome, but we kept our faith, and we kept it very much intact.

00:03:30.000 There were a few changes, the 39 Articles, the Book of Common Prayer, but essentially, Anglicanism is the English expression of the Catholic faith, small c Catholic.

00:03:39.000 And so the Church of England has become very broad.

00:03:43.000 There are evangelicals who are non-liturgical and very much charismatic, and then there are Anglo-Catholics who are very much like the Roman Catholics but without the Pope.

00:03:52.000 So, you say a country that was once Christian?

00:03:55.000 Yes.

00:03:55.000 The numbers are so bad.

00:03:58.000 What is the church attendance Christian identifying of England today?

00:04:03.000 The average church attendance is 25.

00:04:06.000 So parishes are incredibly small.

00:04:08.000 Wait, 25 people?

00:04:09.000 People, per parish.

00:04:10.000 So what percentage of...

00:04:12.000 Brits would attend church?

00:04:13.000 Well, that's a good question.

00:04:14.000 So, for the first time ever in our history, it's not in the majority.

00:04:19.000 So, the majority of people in England have been Christian up until this point.

00:04:22.000 The recent census of last, well, two years ago, showed that we're below 50% now, for the first time ever.

00:04:28.000 So, atheists and agnostics are now the majority in England.

00:04:32.000 Christians have come second to that, and then the Mohammedans are rapidly taking over. 1.00

00:04:36.000 But, of course, this is demographics, you know.

00:04:39.000 In England, the birth rate is 1.4.

00:04:42.000 So mothers and fathers are not replacing each other, and the Mohammedans are rapidly outbreeding us. 1.00

00:04:47.000 Yeah, there's so much to unpack here.

00:04:48.000 So when did the trend towards secularism begin, and when did it accelerate?

00:04:55.000 Since the early 20th century.

00:04:58.000 World War I and World War II were massive catalysts in this.

00:05:01.000 But of course, liberalism has been pushed on us since, well, contraception, divorce, Remarriage, the feminist movements, all of these liberal ideologies have been pushed on us for the last hundred years and we've gradually given up ground on every single one.

00:05:16.000 It's the frog in the boiling water effect.

00:05:17.000 So there's been no moment where we say okay now we're a liberal nation but liberalism has been creeping in and replacing Christianity.

00:05:24.000 And of course, secularism is not solid.

00:05:26.000 It cannot replace anything.

00:05:28.000 It's just an empty hole.

00:05:29.000 And so what's happened is, that void that has replaced Christianity, that secular void, has been replaced with Mohammedanism. 0.94

00:05:36.000 So, on the one front, liberalism has been chipping away at Christianity, but liberalism cannot replace Christianity, and so another faith has come in to replace it in its turn.

00:05:46.000 So, you are one of the only outspoken people in Britain That I can think of in the faith community.

00:05:54.000 I'm sure there are others.

00:05:57.000 Do you fault this also on priests and pastors that did not speak out boldly and prevent this decline from occurring?

00:06:06.000 Yes, and I put this massively.

00:06:08.000 I'm not the only one.

00:06:09.000 There are others.

00:06:09.000 There are a few others.

00:06:11.000 But it feels like you're alone quite often.

00:06:12.000 And it shouldn't, because the church should be there to be our spiritual pastors, no matter who we are or where we are.

00:06:18.000 And in England, we've lost that because of our class system, massively, because the upper class, the upper middle class of clerics want to be seen as nice.

00:06:27.000 They want to be seen as acceptable and reasonable and moderate, and so they don't want to rock the boat.

00:06:31.000 They still want to go to the gentlemen's clubs, they still want to go to the House of Lords, they want to be a part of the establishment bubble, and you can only do that if you play the game.

00:06:40.000 Now, we live in a time where we can no longer afford to play the game, and speaking the truth can cost you everything, but Christians should be able to step forward in the faith, to stand firm in the faith, and to Lose everything. 0.99

00:06:50.000 To risk losing everything.

00:06:52.000 And I keep saying that it's actually nothing.

00:06:54.000 When we get persecuted today, we get a few friends and followers on Facebook.

00:06:57.000 We may get banned from social media.

00:07:00.000 We may potentially lose a job or a promotion.

00:07:02.000 But we're not truly being persecuted in the same sense that our forebears were.

00:07:06.000 And so we're actually cowards.

00:07:07.000 We're afraid of nothing.

00:07:09.000 But what we're seeing is more and more people are being cancelled.

00:07:11.000 And every time someone's cancelled, they find that strength of Christ.

00:07:15.000 They find that courage.

00:07:15.000 Because it's not our courage, it's not our strength, it's his.

00:07:17.000 But you kind of need to go through the cancellation first in order to realize it doesn't matter.

00:07:22.000 It means nothing.

00:07:23.000 So I don't want to overemphasize the depressing nature of this, but I'm going to ask you a question very bluntly.

00:07:29.000 Is England lost?

00:07:32.000 Unfortunately I think it is.

00:07:34.000 I think England, there's no democratic means to save England at this point.

00:07:39.000 We've seen this in our capital city in London where white Brits are in a minority for the first time in our history.

00:07:44.000 Imagine the capital city where the native indigenous people are in a minority.

00:07:49.000 We've re-elected a Mohammedan mayor for the third time.

00:07:52.000 There is a block vote there that we cannot beat.

00:07:54.000 Christians don't come out and vote. 1.00

00:07:55.000 Conservatives no longer live in London.

00:07:57.000 And so, we have no democratic means of taking it back.

00:08:01.000 And the country as a whole is following suit.

00:08:03.000 We just had a general election.

00:08:05.000 We elected 15 Mohammedans to the Houses of Parliament. 0.77

00:08:08.000 We've elected more liberals and more socialists than ever before.

00:08:11.000 There are very few conservatives and very, very few Christians.

00:08:14.000 We need more Christians to stand for office, we need more Christians to get out and vote, but it's not happening, and so if it doesn't, I don't know by what means we can take the country back. 0.54

00:08:22.000 I see England has fallen, I see Europe has fallen, and if you look at it, Europe is a beauty.

00:08:29.000 It is the old world.

00:08:30.000 It's gorgeous because it was made, it was created and designed in a time when we believed in something bigger than ourselves.

00:08:36.000 We believed in glorifying God.

00:08:38.000 And so it's this beautiful shell that doesn't really have a soul anymore.

00:08:42.000 It doesn't really have Christ anymore.

00:08:43.000 It's a husk of its former self. 0.84

00:08:44.000 It is a husk.

00:08:44.000 Which is why I come over here to warn you guys.

00:08:46.000 Because you guys don't have the beautiful shell, but you still have the soul.

00:08:49.000 You still have the spirit.

00:08:50.000 And so you've really got to fight to protect that.

00:08:52.000 Because once that's gone, there's no coming back from it.

00:08:54.000 So look at what we're doing, look at the mistakes we're making, and don't copy us.

00:08:58.000 And let's look at this pattern.

00:09:00.000 So Christians didn't speak out, that pastors did not speak out, the hyper-secularization of your country, and liberalism, which is a toxin on a society. 0.54

00:09:10.000 It will eat away, eat away, eat away.

00:09:13.000 And then one thing in particular, immigration.

00:09:16.000 Yes.

00:09:17.000 When did the mass Muslim immigration begin, and why did you guys allow yourself to be invaded and conquered by, as you beautifully put it, the Mohammedans? 1.00

00:09:29.000 Yeah, and I use that term Mohammedan for a reason. 1.00

00:09:31.000 Oh, I'm going to use that, by the way.

00:09:32.000 Good, because Muslim means true believer of God.

00:09:35.000 And they're not true believers of God. 0.81

00:09:36.000 That's a lie.

00:09:37.000 That's a falsehood.

00:09:38.000 The devil twists our words, twists our language.

00:09:40.000 So Muslims are not Muslims. 1.00

00:09:41.000 They are Mohammedans because they are followers of Mohammed in the same way we are followers of Christ.

00:09:46.000 So let's not use their terms.

00:09:47.000 Let's not play by their rules.

00:09:48.000 But when immigration began, I mean mass immigration, in 1997 with Tony Blair, who is definitely not on our side, The purpose of it was GDP.

00:10:00.000 So countries have been measuring their success by GDP for a long time, as if the success of a country is dictated by how much money is coming in and going out. 0.97

00:10:07.000 It's a stupid superficial measure.

00:10:09.000 But we've been using GDP and so they saw that the birth rates were declining, that British people were not having children, not starting families, and so they said we need to raise the population somehow. 0.97

00:10:19.000 What do we do?

00:10:19.000 So they mass-imported immigrants from other places.

00:10:22.000 Unfortunately, they didn't consider where they were coming from.

00:10:26.000 And I think there's a bit of anti-Christian rhetoric here because Southern Sudan is a

00:10:31.000 place where Christians are persecuted.

00:10:33.000 Northern Nigeria, China, Korea, there are plenty of places around the world where there

00:10:36.000 are people that believe what we believe, have our values, and could do with coming over

00:10:41.000 But we don't support them.

00:10:42.000 Instead, we imported mass immigration from countries with values that hate us, hate our way of life, and actually want to take over. 0.91

00:10:48.000 And they come and get the amazing benefits that we provide, they use all our resources, and then our school, we have no school places, we have no hospital places, the country's a mess, and the people that we've imported do not want us to live. 0.99

00:11:00.000 They don't want us to survive.

00:11:01.000 And so since 97, mass immigration has been on the increase.

00:11:05.000 Under the Labour government and the Conservative government, we've had Conservatives in power for 14 years.

00:11:10.000 Conservatives in name only.

00:11:12.000 And they've increased the problem rather than solving it.

00:11:15.000 Yeah, we have no idea what mass immigration is like.

00:11:18.000 So that's a uniquely British problem. 0.99

00:11:21.000 Well, at least your immigrants tend to be Christian, right? 1.00

00:11:24.000 Yeah, well, they used to be.

00:11:25.000 Now we have people from China and Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.

00:11:29.000 And, yeah, I mean, again, it's a...

00:11:31.000 You could be Christian, you could also be part of MS-13 and be a Christian, so, not sure what to think of that. 0.74

00:11:35.000 But yes, um, correct, generally the body politic that is being imported is a little bit more compatible with Western society than what you've lived through.

00:11:45.000 Right.

00:11:45.000 But, so, Tony Blair did this in 97, that's very educational for me, and, but at no point did anyone say, we're an island?

00:11:55.000 We only have so much land, so many resources, so many people.

00:11:59.000 London is already, I think, the densest city besides Tokyo, if I'm not mistaken.

00:12:03.000 Literally, you've got a hotel room, it might as well be a closet, right?

00:12:08.000 What is the thought process of, let's go bring in people that are obviously going to disproportionately leech on social welfare, that do not share Western values, was this ever questioned

00:12:21.000 throughout the 2000s?

00:12:22.000 It wasn't.

00:12:23.000 Or is diversity your strength?

00:12:25.000 It wasn't allowed to be questioned. So Tony Blair's on record as saying,

00:12:28.000 what we need to do is we need to convince the right that to question this mass immigration 0.96

00:12:32.000 is xenophobic and racist. And they kept pumping this message, diversity is our strength,

00:12:36.000 diversity is our strength. Of course diversity is not our strength.

00:12:39.000 Diversity is our Achilles heel. 0.99

00:12:42.000 You can preach for multi-ethnicity if you like, but multiculturalism does not work unless there's a predominant culture that people are unable to assimilate into.

00:12:49.000 If you have multiple cultures, by definition you've got ghettoization, and you've got conflicting ideas and ideologies, and somewhere along the lines there's going to be a battle there.

00:12:58.000 And so Tony Blair pushed this ideology that anyone questioning his ideology is racist and xenophobic.

00:13:04.000 So the right, the Conservatives, again, were weak and cowardice and would not stand up and say, call me a racist, call me a xenophobe, I love my country, I want to protect my borders.

00:13:14.000 Instead they say, okay, we're nice, we won't rock the boat, we'll play along with you. 0.85

00:13:18.000 And that is the downfall.

00:13:19.000 The Conservatives have been our downfall, not the left.

00:13:21.000 We expect the left to do what they do.

00:13:23.000 The Conservatives have not been standing up to them, that's the problem.

00:13:26.000 So in this audience, anyone Cuban or has Cuban family here?

00:13:28.000 Yeah, of course.

00:13:29.000 So typically growing up, Calvin, the cautionary tales that we would receive were for people from Venezuela and Cuba.

00:13:37.000 Right.

00:13:38.000 Now I have somebody coming from Britain giving me a cautionary tales. 1.00

00:13:42.000 As if you're like, I'm a survivor from Venezuela!

00:13:45.000 I feel like it.

00:13:46.000 And strangely, The British tragedy is actually more applicable to us than Venezuela right now.

00:13:54.000 Because it is a wealthy, once great, once Christian nation that had mass migration, diversity is our strength, and a very corrupt and weak ruling class. 1.00

00:14:05.000 So you're coming here with a cautionary tale.

00:14:08.000 We have a major presidential election.

00:14:11.000 What are the stakes of this election as somebody who's an outsider, as someone who loves the West?

00:14:16.000 Is it just another election?

00:14:18.000 For me, this is it.

00:14:18.000 This is make or break.

00:14:19.000 This is the turning point, to quote a phrase.

00:14:24.000 Because the West used to be called Christendom because it had Christ at the center of it, the foundation of it.

00:14:29.000 And they've stripped out the foundation.

00:14:31.000 And as we know, a house cannot survive without a foundation.

00:14:34.000 It will implode.

00:14:35.000 And we're reaching a point now where what's left of the West is just America.

00:14:39.000 This is it.

00:14:40.000 Europe is lost for the most part.

00:14:41.000 We discussed the democratic means or the lack thereof of taking it back.

00:14:44.000 So this is our turning point because if we Allow the Liberals to take over here.

00:14:50.000 All is lost.

00:14:50.000 Who's going to be fighting?

00:14:51.000 You guys are the last one fighting.

00:14:53.000 This is the last stand in America.

00:14:55.000 This election is that important.

00:14:57.000 Because if you survive, we survive with you.

00:14:59.000 Since World War II, Britain, which used to have a great empire, has been the little brother following America around. 0.65

00:15:05.000 And whenever there's been a bully in the prairie ground, we've called our big brother to help us.

00:15:10.000 Now you guys have to remain our big brother, otherwise we will get bullied and we will get annihilated.

00:15:14.000 And so we're looking to you for help, to stay strong, and to protect what you have, and what you know is true, beautiful, and good, and to keep Christ at the center of Christendom.

00:15:23.000 Amen.

00:15:24.000 And so Calvin, there's something though that exists that in this country that you don't have, and Turning Point USA is an example of that.

00:15:35.000 Where we both have wacky left, evil lefts in our country.

00:15:40.000 We both have deep state administrative governments.

00:15:42.000 But America has a very well-organized, energetic, and very resolute conservative movement.

00:15:51.000 Actually conservative movement.

00:15:53.000 Can you speak to that?

00:15:54.000 Because we have a legitimate opposition movement in this country.

00:15:57.000 And I hope you all understand, Europeans wish that they had what we have.

00:16:04.000 It does not exist.

00:16:06.000 Is that correct, Calvin?

00:16:07.000 Absolutely.

00:16:07.000 I mean, when I look at your politics from the outside, it looks like it's becoming more and more polarized.

00:16:12.000 It looks like the left wing is becoming more left wing, and the right wing is becoming more right wing.

00:16:16.000 And that is both a pro and a con.

00:16:18.000 Because we were talking about this backstage a little bit.

00:16:21.000 The left are collectivist.

00:16:22.000 So they like to put everyone into a box, which we find harmful.

00:16:25.000 But for them it works, because they all vote together, they work together, they campaign together.

00:16:29.000 And on the right, we tend to be entrepreneurial and individualistic, which is a problem because we tend to be on our own, or all coming up with the same ideas, but not working together, all thinking we have the best approach.

00:16:40.000 The truth is somewhere in the middle.

00:16:42.000 The truth is Christian communitarianism.

00:16:44.000 It's understanding that we are individuals, But we also have a duty and an obligation to each other because we're part of a community.

00:16:51.000 We're a parish.

00:16:51.000 We're a nation.

00:16:52.000 We're things that unite us as well as things that separate us.

00:16:55.000 We've got to see our strengths in those.

00:16:57.000 And right here in America, you have that.

00:17:00.000 You have that option to back the Conservatives, to back the Christians, and to make your voices heard. 0.95

00:17:04.000 But as we heard last night, Christians aren't voting.

00:17:08.000 Christians need to get out and vote and run for office, too.

00:17:11.000 It's easy to sit on the sidelines and say, I can't vote for either candidate because neither of them are as overtly pro-life as they should be.

00:17:18.000 Well, that's because more Christians aren't running. 0.98

00:17:19.000 If more Christians were running, we'd have someone to vote for. 1.00

00:17:21.000 So we need to become more active.

00:17:25.000 And more Christians aren't involved in all the county process or the party processes, right? 0.88

00:17:30.000 And so, Calvin, the stakes of this election are very high, but it's deeper than our election.

00:17:35.000 I want to take a step back on the cultural landscape, because in some ways it's a perplexing thing, because you're farther gone on almost every issue except the mutilation of children.

00:17:49.000 And this is where there really is no rhyme or rhythm here.

00:17:53.000 You're farther gone on immigration and all this, but for whatever reason, in this country there are still several states, the most populous one in particular, California, that allows the medical mutilation of children under gender-affirming care.

00:18:05.000 In your country it has now been outlawed.

00:18:07.000 Help me make sense of that.

00:18:09.000 We had a win, and we should celebrate our wins.

00:18:12.000 We had something called the Cass Report that came out and said, there's not enough evidence in favour or against transing children.

00:18:19.000 So it wasn't actually a very right-wing document at all.

00:18:21.000 It didn't say that chemical castration is bad for children or that surgical mutilation is bad for children.

00:18:26.000 It said there's not enough evidence in favour or against.

00:18:28.000 It played a very neutral card, but it worked on this occasion with the left.

00:18:32.000 And they saw that, actually, it could be damaging in the long run.

00:18:35.000 And so we halted it.

00:18:36.000 But it's only been halted for the last few months, and the Labour Party have just gone into government, so that could be turned around instantly.

00:18:42.000 We have a Culture Secretary, a Minister of State for Culture, who came out the moment she got into office last month and said, the culture wars are over!

00:18:51.000 Which made me think, does this mean she thinks she's won?

00:18:53.000 And so last week she came out and said, The Conservatives banning men from women's sport was outrageous.

00:18:59.000 A woman is a woman. 1.00

00:19:00.000 A woman is someone who identifies as a woman. 0.99

00:19:02.000 Anyone should be able to enter women's sports. 1.00

00:19:04.000 So the trans movement's reversing back, unfortunately, and men are being allowed back into women's spaces. 0.53

00:19:09.000 But I think out here...

00:19:11.000 Where we can win on this is the money.

00:19:13.000 So there's so much money in transing children. 1.00

00:19:16.000 But we're starting to reach a point now where people who are transed as teenagers are entering adulthood and they're saying, you harmed me. 0.98

00:19:23.000 I can never have a child.

00:19:25.000 My whole life has been changed.

00:19:26.000 And they're suing their doctors.

00:19:28.000 So the moment it no longer becomes commercially viable and actually becomes detrimental, they're going to stop doing it.

00:19:33.000 So you've got to encourage these people and support these people, whether it's crowdfunding or giving them a platform to make sure that people who've been harmed by this evil ideology are held to account.

00:19:41.000 And secondly, we must support Dr. Ethan Haim in Houston, who's being targeted by the Biden Department of Justice for blowing the whistle on the medical mutilation.

00:19:51.000 And this is what drives me nuts when some pastors say, I can't vote for Trump.

00:19:55.000 Do you not see what is going on with this DOJ?

00:19:59.000 Just that issue alone is worth voting for Trump.

00:20:02.000 He's sending out his shock troops after a doctor who blew the whistle on medical mutilation in the Houston Children's Hospital.

00:20:09.000 That case will be dropped the first day that Donald Trump becomes president and a new Attorney General gets sworn in.

00:20:17.000 Hey, this is Charlie Kirk, and I know a lot of you have been suffering under the Biden economy.

00:20:21.000 Recently, school loan payments have been reinstated, and for many, it's adding thousands to their monthly expenses.

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00:21:31.000 Help the audience understand this.

00:21:33.000 I think I understand this, but I won't be able to say it as eloquently or as smoothly as you can.

00:21:37.000 Thank you.

00:21:38.000 You Brits have a way with words.

00:21:39.000 Aren't you jealous?

00:21:40.000 It's just so great, right?

00:21:41.000 But before you get to your question, Trump wrote an executive order, which I think was one of the best pieces of legislation that I've ever seen.

00:21:47.000 He signed this order against stereotyping children.

00:21:50.000 So he said, if you are going to say that your school or your university is racist, we're no longer going to fund you, because we're not going to fund racist institutions.

00:21:57.000 And so he defeated the critical race theory by using their own logic.

00:22:00.000 Yes.

00:22:00.000 And I worked with ministers in my country to put something similar together.

00:22:03.000 We tried to copy it.

00:22:04.000 Of course, our country is slowing in this legal process.

00:22:07.000 So it wasn't a case of just signing an executive order.

00:22:09.000 But this is the approach.

00:22:10.000 Take their money away. 1.00

00:22:11.000 Hit them where it hurts. 0.99

00:22:12.000 And Trump is willing to do this. 0.99

00:22:14.000 He's shown this by his record.

00:22:16.000 But of course, as soon as Biden got in, one of the first things he did in the first 10 days was Get rid of this executive order.

00:22:22.000 So I'm hoping that Trump will bring it straight back.

00:22:24.000 And more.

00:22:25.000 More is coming in addition to that.

00:22:26.000 And it will be significant.

00:22:28.000 So Calvin...

00:22:31.000 A common question I get, so let's go back, I don't know if it happened this June, but I'm sure it did, is during Pride Month, London looks like a colonized city. 0.96

00:22:39.000 Is that still the case, I'm sure?

00:22:41.000 It's bad, but it's not the worst I've seen.

00:22:42.000 Yeah, so last June was really bad, I don't know if they repeated it, where every street had the new gay pride flag with the circle and the inverted triangle. 1.00

00:22:52.000 The child mutilation flag.

00:22:53.000 The child mutilation flag.

00:22:54.000 And it is a colonized city, right?

00:22:57.000 It's the same thing that the Ottomans would do when they wanted to take over Vienna, right? 0.96

00:23:02.000 We fly the flag, you're no longer in charge. 0.97

00:23:05.000 And so help me understand though, and the audience, why the Mohammedans put up with London being full of gay stuff. 1.00

00:23:15.000 Right, okay. 0.98

00:23:16.000 I'll get to the Mohammedans bit, but let's start with the gay stuff. 1.00

00:23:19.000 There's so much gay stuff. 0.99

00:23:23.000 It is all gay. 1.00

00:23:24.000 I went to Ireland during Pride Month this year because I thought this is a Catholic country. 0.97

00:23:32.000 You're right.

00:23:33.000 I went to Dublin, Catholic city.

00:23:35.000 I walked around for two hours.

00:23:36.000 How many Irish flags do you think I saw?

00:23:39.000 One or two, maybe?

00:23:39.000 Yeah.

00:23:40.000 Two.

00:23:40.000 In two hours.

00:23:41.000 I saw the trans mutilation flag everywhere.

00:23:44.000 Hundreds of them.

00:23:45.000 And this is a conquered state.

00:23:47.000 And this is exactly what they do.

00:23:48.000 They say, we are dominating you and there's nothing you can do about it.

00:23:52.000 In fact, there was a video of last year where these workmen on Regent Street, one of the main streets in London, were lining the trans flag down the street.

00:24:01.000 It's very much like what the SS did in Germany. 0.85

00:24:03.000 Like, just a flag everywhere, right?

00:24:05.000 And they dropped the Union flag to the ground.

00:24:07.000 They dropped our national flag on the floor to replace it with a child mutilation flag. 0.63

00:24:12.000 It was horrible to see.

00:24:13.000 But someone questioned these workers and said, what are you doing?

00:24:16.000 And he said, I know it's a disgrace, but I'm just doing my job.

00:24:18.000 And if this is not enough, we have to stand up.

00:24:21.000 I happened to be staying in a hotel recently, and they had the child mutilation flag on these banners everywhere.

00:24:27.000 I just turned it down.

00:24:29.000 I cannot stay in a place I can't stay in a place that is promoting the mutilation of children.

00:24:36.000 It is evil.

00:24:36.000 It is wrong.

00:24:37.000 In your country, is that a hate crime?

00:24:38.000 It is a hate crime.

00:24:39.000 Yeah, it's a hate crime.

00:24:40.000 Just so you understand, it is not a hate crime to burn the United States flag.

00:24:43.000 It is a hate crime to desecrate the gay pride flag.

00:24:46.000 Please continue.

00:24:47.000 That's Biden's Department of Justice.

00:24:49.000 They are prosecuting federal Department of Justice claims against people that have run over the gay pride sidewalks with their car.

00:24:57.000 Amazing.

00:24:57.000 So I tore these flags down because I couldn't stay in a building with them.

00:25:00.000 I gave them to a friend of mine, Lawrence Fox.

00:25:02.000 We have a show together, Fox and Father.

00:25:04.000 And he burned the flags.

00:25:05.000 He got arrested for burning the flags.

00:25:07.000 And it was all over the newspapers.

00:25:08.000 But they wouldn't press charges.

00:25:10.000 They wouldn't go through.

00:25:11.000 So they try to intimidate you, but they don't actually want it to go to court, because then they'd have to set a precedent.

00:25:15.000 and say that this is either illegal or not illegal.

00:25:17.000 So they want to use all the pressure they can without going through.

00:25:20.000 And we see this across the board.

00:25:23.000 I've got friends in England who have been arrested for silent prayer in their own heads.

00:25:27.000 Arrested, charged, and they wait around for months with police intimidation and then at the last minute they drop it just before it goes to court.

00:25:34.000 And so we have to be strong enough to actually go through with that, again, minor inconvenience and minor persecution to send a message that we will not be silenced by these child mutilating Insert derogatory term here.

00:25:48.000 Thugs, is what they are.

00:25:49.000 So help us understand though, and it's a deeper question than just, you know, the Mohammedans and the gay pride flags. 0.98

00:25:55.000 Because for outsiders, it's a running joke. 0.89

00:26:00.000 How on earth does the trans mafia, the purple haired jihadis, why do they get along with the actual jihadis? 0.99

00:26:07.000 Right, so the trans mob are old-fashioned racists, right? 0.96

00:26:11.000 So they see the Mohammedans as lesser than them, and they think they can patronize them, and they think they can educate them into a better way of being.

00:26:18.000 They'll say, you know, you're medieval faith, but they won't say that to their face.

00:26:21.000 They'll be like, we have a different standard for the Mohammedans than we do for the Christians. 1.00

00:26:25.000 The Christians should be better, they should be more progressive, they should be more liberal.

00:26:28.000 The Mohammedans can't help it because they're exotic, they're from another land, right? 1.00

00:26:32.000 This is the thinking of the left. 1.00

00:26:34.000 And at the same time, They are not aware of how stupid they are, because they are being used by the Mohammedans. 1.00

00:26:41.000 The Mohammedans hate them, hate everything they stand for, but they understand that they're chipping away at Christianity. 1.00

00:26:46.000 The liberals are chipping away.

00:26:47.000 So they're doing the job for the Mohammedans. 1.00

00:26:49.000 They don't have to come in with swords this time.

00:26:51.000 They can sit back...

00:26:53.000 Watch our culture and our society and our values be deteriorated by the left, and then when there's a massive gaping hole, because nature abhors a vacuum, they'll step in.

00:27:02.000 And we see this time and time again.

00:27:03.000 Like I say, 15 members of parliament that are Islamists now.

00:27:07.000 We have a Mohammedan mayor of London who was a backer of the Nation of Islam.

00:27:12.000 They are taking office, they're taking holes, voids that have been left, which would have been held by conservatives, that the liberals have destroyed.

00:27:20.000 So, I want you to make a prediction.

00:27:23.000 In 30 years from now, will Britain be more Islamist and Mohammedan, or more secular, left-wing, LGBT, gay stuff? 0.86

00:27:33.000 If current trends continue, it will be an Islamic country. 1.00

00:27:36.000 Predominantly Islamic by 2050. 1.00

00:27:38.000 So then, let me interrupt.

00:27:40.000 The trans-zealots, they don't realize what that means for them, or they don't care? 1.00

00:27:46.000 They're stupid. 1.00

00:27:47.000 It's Palestine's for... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's... It One part hates the other part and wants to eat the other part alive. 1.00

00:28:09.000 We saw this with people like J.K.

00:28:10.000 Rowling, right? 0.71

00:28:11.000 One minute she was a massive feminist hero, the next minute she's a transphobe. 1.00

00:28:14.000 You can't keep up with the woke movement because they all hate each other really and truly, but they're sticking together because that's what their ideology does.

00:28:21.000 So by 2050, what we see as woke today won't be woke then.

00:28:24.000 It'll be something entirely different and unrecognizable, but it won't matter because they will genuinely be oppressed by then, by the Mohammedans. 1.00

00:28:31.000 Which might be a good thing for them because they think they're oppressed now.

00:28:33.000 Let's see what they're like when they're truly oppressed.

00:28:35.000 So let's go even further here, Calvin.

00:28:39.000 What a lot of people who call themselves conservative in both of our countries actually are, are liberals driving the speed limit.

00:28:47.000 They're not where Marxists are liberals that are going 90 miles an hour.

00:28:54.000 Most people that call themselves conservatives are actually liberals just wanting to go a little bit slower.

00:28:59.000 Yeah.

00:28:59.000 Do you find that to be the case?

00:29:01.000 Absolutely.

00:29:02.000 It's a conservative's job to preserve, right?

00:29:04.000 It's to protect the past so we have something to hand down to the future.

00:29:07.000 But they see it, a lot of conservatives see it as their role to slow down progress.

00:29:12.000 But progress isn't always linear.

00:29:14.000 Progress isn't always a good thing.

00:29:15.000 Progress can be detrimental to our way of life.

00:29:18.000 And so a conservative job should be to monitor and deter progress sometimes, and sometimes to engage with it and embrace it, but not always.

00:29:26.000 We have to be discerning.

00:29:27.000 We can't let the Liberals keep going on with things as long as we slow down the pace.

00:29:34.000 Let's look at homosexuality as an example. 0.99

00:29:36.000 Fifty years ago, there would have been no such thing as a gay person or a homosexual person.

00:29:40.000 We would have recognized the act of sodomy, or that kind of act as a sinful act, and we would have said, no, that's sinful behavior, let's talk about how to live in Christ, whether that's marriage or celibacy, you know, chasteness.

00:29:53.000 But now, we've let the language change, we've let the culture shift, because the liberals The boiling-the-frog-in-the-water effect, again, have said that, no, this is a person's being.

00:30:03.000 This act is not just an act, it's the very essence of their identity.

00:30:07.000 That sin shapes them and labels them, and they are that sin.

00:30:11.000 And so you can no longer talk about the sin, because to talk about the sin is to talk about the person.

00:30:15.000 Whereas Christians have always been, hate the sin, love the sinner. 1.00

00:30:18.000 Whereas if the person identifies as the sin, When you're addressing that, you're hating the person.

00:30:24.000 And that's the progress that conservatives have allowed, rather than halting it at the beginning.

00:30:29.000 And it's the same with feminism, it's the same with the contraceptive movement, same with remarriage and divorce. 1.00

00:30:33.000 All of these things we've said, well, let's just let them get on with it.

00:30:36.000 They're not hurting anyone.

00:30:37.000 They are hurting people.

00:30:38.000 They're hurting each other, and they're hurting themselves, they're harming their souls, they're harming the body of Christ.

00:30:42.000 And we've let them get on with it for too long.

00:30:44.000 We've got to stop saying no.

00:30:45.000 Whether it's nice or not, we've got to say no.

00:30:48.000 So Calvin, I have one final question and then I want to get to some questions from the audience here, get some audience participation.

00:30:55.000 Which is, as a outsider, as someone who has a heart for the West and for Christendom, we are in the heart of this election.

00:31:06.000 I find that sometimes the crispest wisdom can come from somebody who's removed from the situation.

00:31:13.000 What advice or wisdom do you have for us as we are now in a political trench war against Jezebel Kamala Harris?

00:31:24.000 What do you think we need to do?

00:31:27.000 What advice would you give us?

00:31:30.000 Stop playing their game by their rules.

00:31:33.000 So they're going to start painting Kamala Harris as this cool person.

00:31:36.000 We're already seeing headlines of from cringe to cool.

00:31:39.000 We know she's a horrible person, but we don't have to attack her.

00:31:42.000 We can just show people what her policies have been.

00:31:44.000 We can show people how she's voted and what she would implement if she was in office.

00:31:47.000 But we've also got to stop expecting the left to play fair. 0.99

00:31:52.000 We keep saying, you're a hypocrite, we keep holding mirrors up to them, but they don't care about their hypocrisy, because they hate us and they hate our way of life, and they think they are superior. 0.99

00:32:00.000 So they don't mind being a hypocrite, they don't mind lying, they don't mind all of the things that we see as abhorrent, because they don't share our values. 1.00

00:32:07.000 So we can't hold them to our standards. 0.97

00:32:09.000 And so, in turn, we've got to hold ourselves to those higher standards.

00:32:13.000 We've got to play by our rules, by God's rules, stop playing the left at their game, and that means Being fair, being true, honoring beauty and goodness, honoring our Lord, and actually living in Christ.

00:32:25.000 I know it sounds like just a line they throw out there, but it shows when people live by truth, beauty, and goodness.

00:32:31.000 It shows in every essence of your being.

00:32:33.000 So the left is horrible, it's toxic, it's divisive, and people are getting sick of it.

00:32:38.000 Not just the left, but people who see the left are getting sick of it. 0.53

00:32:40.000 And so when they look around and they see the world darkening and see the West imploding, they see Europe lost and they see America becoming the last stand.

00:32:47.000 They look around and they say, where is the truth?

00:32:49.000 Where is the beauty?

00:32:50.000 Where's the goodness?

00:32:51.000 Where's the alternative?

00:32:52.000 And they'll see in you.

00:32:53.000 They'll see Christ in you.

00:32:55.000 That's your opportunity to introduce them to Jesus Christ.

00:32:57.000 That is how we win people back, by opening their hearts, helping that lead them to Christ, for him to soften their hearts, for him to convert them to him.

00:33:05.000 Of course, we do want to win the election and we have to convince our friends and our family that the orange man is not necessarily bad.

00:33:12.000 But in the long term, We've got to lead them to Christ.

00:33:15.000 That's the most important message.

00:33:16.000 And then we can tell them why Orange Money is not bad, because they don't share our perspective yet.

00:33:20.000 We've got to give them the lens of Christ first.

00:33:23.000 Amen.

00:33:24.000 And I will add to that, that one of the reasons why we're in the constitutional crisis we're in, we mentioned this at a previous discussion, is that the current form of American government is wholly and only suitable for a Christian and moral and religious people. 0.81

00:33:42.000 And so we're at this place where can we still keep that form of government going when the country is barely Christian? 0.80

00:33:51.000 And we don't know the answer to that.

00:33:53.000 And the answer is we might be able to win one or two more elections.

00:33:57.000 But if you do not then ignite mass cultural change, then you're going to have that form and structure of government will cease to exist.

00:34:06.000 We're seeing this in England.

00:34:07.000 Democracy has become somewhat of an idol in the West.

00:34:09.000 Democracy is the least worst option that we have.

00:34:12.000 It's good, but it's not great.

00:34:14.000 But in the West, we've assumed that democracy is based on Christian values.

00:34:18.000 You know, in England, we have a common law.

00:34:20.000 We have a Christian head of state.

00:34:21.000 We have an established church.

00:34:22.000 We have a Christian at the head of our judiciary, our legislative, our military.

00:34:25.000 It's explicitly a Christian country.

00:34:28.000 But when you take Christ out of it, democracy as a method doesn't function anymore.

00:34:32.000 And so we're seeing already that Mohammedans are saying, well, we need blasphemy laws. 0.98

00:34:35.000 But they're not saying it overtly, but they're saying if someone is Islamophobic, they should be dealt with.

00:34:40.000 And then they changed the definition of Islamophobia, which used to be an irrational fear of Islam, to a dislike of Islam, thereby going round the houses to implement blasphemy laws in our country, because our system wasn't set up to protect us against this.

00:34:55.000 It wasn't made for Hindu, Sikhs, Mohammedans or any other faith. 0.94

00:34:58.000 It was made for a Christian nation, with Christian representatives.

00:35:01.000 And it's a great shame that we've been infiltrated, but we have to remind ourselves that we've got to put him first and foremost, and put him back in, because without him everything else falls apart.

00:35:09.000 Let's do some questions.

00:35:09.000 Who wants to go first?

00:35:11.000 Yes, ma'am.

00:35:12.000 Hi, so I'm actually going to school in England right now, so I'm seeing exactly what you were talking about.

00:35:17.000 Whereabouts?

00:35:18.000 Brighton. 0.99

00:35:19.000 So, very gay. 1.00

00:35:20.000 Yeah, the southern tip. 0.99

00:35:22.000 That is the gay capital. 1.00

00:35:24.000 Brighton is very gay. 0.99

00:35:24.000 Luckily, I wasn't there in June, but they were still doing stuff in July, so they had more than a month. 0.99

00:35:31.000 And I'm also seeing on the other side in London, I think it was Whitechapel, where everything's in Arabic, there's no women on the street.

00:35:38.000 If there are, they're covered head to toe.

00:35:40.000 All the men outside looking at their shops.

00:35:42.000 And then going to my class and gay liberal Brighton talking about degender tampons in my marketing class. 0.98

00:35:49.000 So I'm just wondering as a Christian conservative over there as an outsider.

00:35:54.000 How am I supposed to combat that issue?

00:35:56.000 And how am I supposed to... What are you studying?

00:35:59.000 I'm doing fashion communications.

00:36:01.000 So, I'm surrounded... Hence the gay city, right? 1.00

00:36:04.000 So, I'm in a gay class in a gay city, which probably wasn't the best option. 0.96

00:36:08.000 Do you think you're getting your money's worth?

00:36:09.000 No.

00:36:11.000 Luckily, like, I've really been looking into you.

00:36:14.000 I do all of my research on the side of like, I'm growing here, but I feel like I've been placed and they won't allow me to change my major.

00:36:20.000 Yeah.

00:36:21.000 I'm sorry to interrupt, Calvin, but is this a study abroad program, or is this actually... I'm actually there, so I'm there for two more years, and I can't change my major.

00:36:29.000 I'm completely stuck, so I'm like, alright, God's putting me in this situation, how can I be a beacon of light to them when all of them call me a bigot, like, xenophobic, all this stuff.

00:36:40.000 The turning point's outlawed at a lot of colleges in the UK, but, um, yeah.

00:36:45.000 Calvin?

00:36:45.000 It's gonna be difficult.

00:36:49.000 But actually, I think if you can find joy in the suffering, remind yourself that every time they persecute you, you are blessed because of it, and they hated him before they hated you.

00:36:58.000 If you can remind yourself that constantly, you'll be a good use for people around you.

00:37:03.000 I don't know why the Lord's put you there, but I'm assuming it's because there are very few Christians in that environment. 0.99

00:37:07.000 So if you were, for example, to make your faith known, invite your friends to prayers before class or after class or something like that, so that they can almost exercise themselves of the wickedness that's 0.87

00:37:18.000 surrounding them in that gay city and in that gay university, that could be a good start.

00:37:21.000 Yeah, and look at it, you're a missionary. 0.90

00:37:23.000 That's how you have to look at it.

00:37:24.000 So, no different than going into a mission field where you're going into a conquered country.

00:37:30.000 Boy, Brighton as a...

00:37:33.000 Yeah, no, that's...

00:37:34.000 Turkey's for Christmas.

00:37:36.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:37:37.000 I know a good church in Brighton, though.

00:37:38.000 I'll hook you up after.

00:37:39.000 That would be really great.

00:37:40.000 Thank you.

00:37:41.000 Stay strong.

00:37:43.000 Let's go here, and then, Daisy, let's work deeper into the crowd, okay?

00:37:47.000 In America, thanks to Charlie and a lot of other people that come on to college campuses, there seems to be a movement of young men, especially, who are becoming more conservative.

00:37:56.000 Are there people in the UK doing things like Charlie's doing, and do you see A similar movement, especially with young men, 18 to 25.

00:38:06.000 Well, I wouldn't say that, but yes, yes, we are.

00:38:08.000 We are.

00:38:09.000 So we do have Turning Point UK.

00:38:11.000 We've got a new movement called Disciples for Christ.

00:38:13.000 And we have a lot of younger people finding tradition and looking to find something that's outside of modernity because modernity is so degenerate and indecent.

00:38:23.000 We have a ground movement growing.

00:38:24.000 So today, as we're out here, there's a rally happening in London.

00:38:27.000 Where my friends, people like Tommy Robinson, Lawrence Fox, Carl Benjamin, are rallying the troops.

00:38:33.000 And what we're trying to do with the young people is get everyone together and create a block vote.

00:38:37.000 Because in the United Kingdom, there aren't really block votes.

00:38:39.000 We don't have these caucuses like you guys have.

00:38:43.000 But the Mohammedans have a block vote. 0.95

00:38:44.000 And so we're trying to counter that by creating a patriotic block vote.

00:38:49.000 And so we've got 50,000 people out in London, in the centre of London today, all waving the Union flag.

00:38:54.000 That's quite rare.

00:38:57.000 I want to also mention something, is that one of the reasons why we have a robust conservative movement is because we still have the best free speech protections of almost any country on the planet.

00:39:10.000 Would you agree, Calvin?

00:39:12.000 What the founders did to be so explicit in our free speech protections, In the UK, Tommy Robinson, how many times has this guy been in jail?

00:39:18.000 I know.

00:39:19.000 For journalism.

00:39:20.000 Literally.

00:39:21.000 Because 20 years ago, Tommy highlighted the problem of, I'm sure you guys have heard about this, the Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs, they call them. 1.00

00:39:29.000 But they're rape gangs. 1.00

00:39:30.000 And what they do is, it's part of the Pakistani Muhammadan culture, they don't see people outside of their faith as human, and what they do is they take young white British girls and they rape them. 1.00

00:39:39.000 They groom them and they rape them. 0.97

00:39:41.000 And Tommy noticed this 20 years ago and called it out. 0.53

00:39:43.000 But because he's a working class football lad, the establishment hated him because he was exposing them. 0.98

00:39:50.000 And we found out that the police, the local government, the national government were all complicit in covering up these Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. 0.99

00:39:59.000 For the purposes of diversity. 0.98

00:40:00.000 They didn't want to rock the boat and spark any race hatred.

00:40:04.000 Instead of protecting the young British white girls, they left them. 0.93

00:40:08.000 They gave them out as bait in order to protect diversity as our strength.

00:40:11.000 Of course it's not our strength.

00:40:12.000 And that's why all of our fights against censorship online, why Elon Musk buying Twitter have been positive developments?

00:40:19.000 You guys have both.

00:40:20.000 It's not just your free speech.

00:40:21.000 It's your first and your second amendment.

00:40:23.000 We gave up our guns in 1997 over one incident.

00:40:27.000 The Liberals, they never let a good crisis go to waste.

00:40:29.000 They used it to take our pistols away.

00:40:32.000 And now we have no protection of our speech or ourselves.

00:40:34.000 So you guys have got to hold on to those first two amendments.

00:40:37.000 And they're tied together.

00:40:38.000 Absolutely.

00:40:39.000 A government that has a monopoly on the weaponry has a monopoly on speech.

00:40:46.000 If you cannot defend yourself, Physically, you will not be able to defend your right to speak.

00:40:53.000 There is no First Amendment without the Second Amendment. 0.54

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00:42:00.000 Hey guys, it's nice to hear you. Calvin, I've been following you for a long time

00:42:06.000 and that's awesome.

00:42:08.000 The church, 11th through 15th century, had a church militant, right?

00:42:14.000 And going to Charlie's point in an earlier conversation he had today, men being involved in most American churches is problematic.

00:42:26.000 And I think, so I'm asking your opinion on a new version of a church militant Because that is how men will relate moving forward, I think.

00:42:37.000 So I'll put it back to you.

00:42:38.000 Thank you.

00:42:40.000 That's a good question.

00:42:40.000 Thank you.

00:42:42.000 You're right.

00:42:43.000 I mean, we are the church militant.

00:42:44.000 We are the church in this realm.

00:42:45.000 But the problem with that is that we don't have a muscular Christianity anymore.

00:42:50.000 We don't have men being men.

00:42:52.000 Masculinity has been frowned upon because of fourth wave feminism. 1.00

00:42:55.000 And so we need to reverse that ideology first and foremost and say feminism is bad. 1.00

00:42:59.000 The patriarchy is God ordained.

00:43:01.000 God revealed himself through the patriarchs quite literally.

00:43:03.000 He is the ultimate patriarch.

00:43:05.000 He is God the Father.

00:43:06.000 He gave us this hierarchy for a reason.

00:43:13.000 And men are looking for this.

00:43:14.000 We see this with, you know, they're attracted to people like Andrew Tate for a reason, because he shows muscular masculinity.

00:43:20.000 No, he's a Mohammedan. 0.90

00:43:21.000 This is the problem. 0.98

00:43:22.000 He's a degenerate and a Mohammedan, so it's a problem. 1.00

00:43:25.000 But we need to offer an alternative, a Christian alternative. 0.99

00:43:27.000 Show men how to be men again, and to provide and protect for women. 0.97

00:43:31.000 And show women how to be feminine again. 0.95

00:43:32.000 Men are too effeminate, and women are too masculine, and it's not helping anyone. 0.99

00:43:36.000 It's the devil who likes this androgyny. 1.00

00:43:39.000 The only person who's called they them in the Bible is a demon.

00:43:42.000 We need to move away from all of this.

00:43:49.000 I love that.

00:43:51.000 Nice hearing from all of you.

00:43:52.000 I appreciate all that's going on.

00:43:55.000 I was a little confused.

00:43:57.000 Maybe it wasn't confused, but I'm curious about the problem you were talking about with labeling and, you know, and how it's affected our situation.

00:44:07.000 I work in the field of psychology, and it seems like there's an opposite trend going on also in the DSM.

00:44:14.000 Have you noticed?

00:44:15.000 DSM-5 is a disaster.

00:44:16.000 It is an utter disaster.

00:44:19.000 So just so you know, it's the Diagnostic Statistic Manual, right?

00:44:22.000 Yes.

00:44:23.000 Statistician Manual, which is the Bible of psychology.

00:44:25.000 Exactly.

00:44:26.000 And they're on their fifth iteration.

00:44:27.000 It is witchcraft. 0.89

00:44:29.000 It is witchcraft. 0.89

00:44:30.000 It's evil.

00:44:30.000 It's evil what they're doing.

00:44:31.000 They're actually taking pathologies that they considered in the past that they

00:44:36.000 literally, you know, would turn people away from are now removed.

00:44:40.000 They don't even exist inside there anymore.

00:44:42.000 Instead, they just list all the behaviors.

00:44:45.000 So you can put everything in there now.

00:44:47.000 They have all the child, you know, child predators and everything else.

00:44:50.000 They have categories of Descriptions of what they are.

00:44:54.000 Pedophilia is in there.

00:44:55.000 Yeah, pedophilia is in there and it's just a behavior is all they're looking at.

00:45:00.000 They're not using it as a label for anybody.

00:45:02.000 So how do you blend those together with the other idea that you brought up about the labeling problem?

00:45:08.000 I'm just kind of curious because they seem to go kind of against each other.

00:45:11.000 I don't know about the I can talk first about the DSM.

00:45:14.000 So, any person who cares about humanity who's in psychology should burn the DSM-5 and should not follow it.

00:45:22.000 And, again, I'm not a doctor.

00:45:23.000 That's not my view.

00:45:25.000 This is Dr. Jordan Peterson.

00:45:27.000 This is Dr. Miriam Grossman.

00:45:28.000 These are real clinicians, real people, who understand it.

00:45:32.000 And, by the way, this does not take a doctorate from Stanford to know.

00:45:37.000 You read the DSM-5.

00:45:38.000 Just so you understand, that transgenderism, which used to be called gender dysphoria in the DSM-4, 3, and 2, gender dysphoria, which was a treatable issue of an individual that had a brain-body disconnect, And the treatment was very simple.

00:45:55.000 It's called watchful waiting, which is you do not give them drugs, you do not give them interventions, but you allow puberty to be a solution, not a problem, and you try to find underlying issues and underlying events or traumas that lead to it.

00:46:08.000 Secondly, almost every single person who has gender dysphoria has underlying issues of bipolar issues, schizophrenic issues, generalized anxiety disorder, depression, so on and so forth.

00:46:19.000 The DSM-5 rejects all of that.

00:46:20.000 This is the Bible, by the way, that all of your local psychologists... If you go here in West Palm Beach, a local psychologist that, you know, just right out of school, they'll just go to the DSM-5.

00:46:29.000 Gender dysphoria is no longer a condition to be treated.

00:46:33.000 It is something to be affirmed.

00:46:37.000 So, the standard operating procedure, the manual, so this is not that like, oh, it's an opinion.

00:46:43.000 What they now look at on how to quote-unquote treat your child has been totally corrupted, and it's even worse than that.

00:46:51.000 I could go on at length because I just read a whole book on the DSM-5.

00:46:54.000 However, do you have a thought on the labeling?

00:46:56.000 Yeah, just briefly.

00:46:58.000 Because liberalism always ends up in paedophilia.

00:47:01.000 Even conservatives who think, oh no, classical liberalism's different.

00:47:01.000 Always.

00:47:04.000 RBS.

00:47:05.000 Because it doesn't identify the truth of what freedom means.

00:47:05.000 Absolutely.

00:47:10.000 Freedom is obedience to God.

00:47:12.000 Right?

00:47:13.000 To his divine order.

00:47:17.000 Whereas liberals will always say, well, freedom is freedom to, or freedom from, or, you know, their own personal freedom to do whatever they choose, or it's not.

00:47:25.000 And the moment you go down that path, it always ends up, always, in paedophilia, because it says, well, this behaviour, this is a protected group, they're stuck, they can't help how they feel, they're born that way, this or that, the other, it's always an excuse, because there's no objective good or bad.

00:47:39.000 And we can say as Christians that, no, anyone who's attracted to a child, that is a bad behaviour, that's a bad thought, that's a person who needs help and prayer.

00:47:47.000 But they would protect them as a characteristic.

00:47:50.000 And so we've got to get back to teaching about the binaries of what is true and false, what's right and wrong, what's good and bad.

00:47:56.000 And for so long they've said everything is a grey area.

00:47:59.000 You're too biased.

00:48:01.000 There is a nuance.

00:48:02.000 There's not always a nuance.

00:48:03.000 Some things are just evil.

00:48:05.000 Pedophilia and bestiality is another one.

00:48:07.000 I saw recently in the UK, some psychologist was saying, actually, some people are attracted to animals and animals can't consent to being fed.

00:48:14.000 So why would animals have to consent to being Manipulated in a sexual way?

00:48:19.000 What are you talking about?

00:48:20.000 This is wrong.

00:48:20.000 It's objectively evil.

00:48:22.000 We don't need to reason our way into it.

00:48:23.000 We can just say, no, it's bad.

00:48:24.000 Stop it.

00:48:25.000 Yes, next question.

00:48:26.000 Yes, Charles with the Spark Free Press.

00:48:29.000 I just had a question about what do you think about them openly mocking the Christians in this, like the Olympics, this Last Supper?

00:48:39.000 How do we respond to that as Christian or as Christian media?

00:48:42.000 And what are your thoughts on that?

00:48:45.000 Yes, so that's a really important question.

00:48:47.000 This is what conquerors do.

00:48:49.000 When you take over a city, you use the symbology of the civilization that once existed in a humiliating, mocking way.

00:48:56.000 I mean, there's hundreds of examples of this.

00:48:59.000 And by the way, Christians used to do this to Islamic symbols and vice versa. 0.98

00:49:02.000 But when you take over a city, you're like, I'm in charge!

00:49:06.000 And this used to be your symbol and not anymore.

00:49:09.000 And so what you saw at the Olympics, I don't know if you guys saw this or not last evening, at the Olympics last night, which I was busy, but I saw some of the clips, right?

00:49:18.000 In France, which is another occupied conquered country, was in their opening ceremony, viewed by a billion people worldwide, that a secular country decided to go out of their way to recreate The Last Supper in a trans gay way, openly taunting it. 0.93

00:49:36.000 You say, wow, that's interesting.

00:49:37.000 You guys have already won.

00:49:38.000 Why are you doing this?

00:49:40.000 It's because they want to remind you on a daily basis that we're in charge, you guys lost, and that your symbol of the most powerful, most beautiful painting, which is the Last Supper, it's in thousands of churches worldwide, is that mythology is gone, and that we're in charge.

00:50:03.000 Secondly, They can't help themselves.

00:50:05.000 This is my deeper, more spiritual part, then I'll have Calvin.

00:50:08.000 Is that, mention this, is that since this is a spiritual war, that they could not resist the temptation of ignoring it.

00:50:16.000 is that they had to try to bring something from the Christian tradition to openly mock Christ our Lord.

00:50:24.000 Calvin, do you see it similarly?

00:50:25.000 Absolutely.

00:50:26.000 So, you'll remember a few months ago when they announced the Paris Olympics, they prayed to Zeus and Apollo.

00:50:32.000 So they told us from the offset that this is a pagan event. 0.96

00:50:35.000 So the fact that Christians tuned in means we're ignorant, first and foremost. 0.99

00:50:39.000 We should not be watching the Olympics. 0.98

00:50:40.000 If they want to offer it up to false gods, let them do that. 0.87

00:50:43.000 That's nothing to do with us. 0.65

00:50:45.000 But again, people keep holding up the mirror to them and trying to expose their hypocrisy and say things like, well, you wouldn't do this for Islam, would you?

00:50:51.000 Or, okay, now do it for Muhammad. 0.89

00:50:52.000 They're not going to do that.

00:50:54.000 Why?

00:50:54.000 Because they know Christianity to be the truth.

00:50:56.000 They're attacking the truth.

00:50:58.000 That's what it is.

00:50:58.000 And again, they don't care about the hypocrisy.

00:51:01.000 They just want to fight against God.

00:51:02.000 That's all this is.

00:51:03.000 The revolution in France was the tipping point for a lot of this.

00:51:06.000 And France is a godless country, unfortunately.

00:51:09.000 And I'm avoiding France as much as I'm avoiding the Olympics.

00:51:11.000 You mean the French Revolution back in the 1780s?

00:51:14.000 Absolutely.

00:51:14.000 That's so important.

00:51:15.000 I don't want to get to KC here.

00:51:16.000 The French Revolution is important to study.

00:51:19.000 Because remember, when the Jacobins took over the French Revolution, and they ushered in the secular era that we know. 0.62

00:51:26.000 And by the way, that was 245 years ago-ish, right?

00:51:32.000 Is that they rewrote the calendar, from the Gregorian calendar, from the 7-day calendar, to the 10-day calendar.

00:51:40.000 They brought in all these different imagery of religious objects.

00:51:44.000 But most critically and most importantly is that they reconfigured the entire value system of what France cared about.

00:51:54.000 So they thought the three, the American Trinity is In God We Trust, E Pluribus Unum, and Liberty.

00:52:01.000 In France, it is Fraternity, it is Liberty, and it is Community.

00:52:08.000 Very, very communistic type core values there.

00:52:13.000 And this is the final kind of fun lesson from the French Revolution.

00:52:16.000 Who led the French Revolution?

00:52:17.000 Maximilien Robespierre.

00:52:20.000 He was the one that invented the guillotine, popularized the guillotine.

00:52:24.000 How did Robespierre die on the guillotine?

00:52:28.000 They will eat their own, and the bloodshed will come for them, too.

00:52:31.000 It will not spare them.

00:52:33.000 Casey, yes.

00:52:34.000 Hi, Casey, how are you?

00:52:35.000 Good to see you, brother.

00:52:36.000 Listen, I'm Casey Krejci, founder of the Great Awakening Project in America, and I want to point out that in America there are tons of awesome ministries.

00:52:45.000 I'm also an avid supporter of Charlie's TPUSA faith.

00:52:47.000 Thank you.

00:52:48.000 They're doing an amazing job.

00:52:51.000 Look at Charlie, 20 years old you started this.

00:52:54.000 You're a young man, you didn't come in with tons of influence, you literally built it person by person, step by step, and you chose the colleges, and you dominated in the colleges for now it's been a dozen years, and you literally have changed the culture.

00:53:11.000 And so what happens is we have so many ministries.

00:53:14.000 Yes.

00:53:15.000 It's the Lord.

00:53:17.000 Of course it is.

00:53:18.000 It's very evident, brother.

00:53:18.000 It's the Lord.

00:53:20.000 Yes, it is.

00:53:21.000 But what I'm saying is that that method that you went about doing, you've proven that method.

00:53:27.000 And the problem is we have so many wonderful ministries, even in the same city, even in your place.

00:53:32.000 But it's great ministries and none of them know what each other are doing.

00:53:35.000 It's like they're out there trying to have an impact and they don't even know what their friends down the street are doing.

00:53:40.000 So my question, I guess, would be to Calvin, listen, you're in a conquered country, okay?

00:53:47.000 So let's just say that If money were not an option, okay, and all these wonderful ministries that have various strata, they go to the culture in different ways.

00:53:59.000 The Seven Mountains or however you look at it, they go after culture in different ways and different expertise.

00:54:05.000 And so, if money were not an option, and you had your dream, because obviously you've been in the crosshairs of a lot of ministries and a lot of culture.

00:54:17.000 If you had your dream, what would you do?

00:54:20.000 How would you, and I'd like Charlie to speak to this as an idea too, how would you overwhelm the systems in that country that has been conquered but still

00:54:29.000 has to put... I mean, with Christ all things are possible.

00:54:31.000 How would you overwhelm that system

00:54:33.000 if you could get armies of different people to come in there and treat it

00:54:37.000 like a...

00:54:38.000 you know, like you're going to go and try to take the country for Jesus? 0.82

00:54:41.000 Very good question, thank you. How would I change the culture if

00:54:45.000 money wasn't an option?

00:54:46.000 Schools.

00:54:47.000 So in the United Kingdom, we don't do homeschooling.

00:54:50.000 It's seen as quite strange, unfortunately.

00:54:51.000 It's against our culture, so that's not going to be a winning point.

00:54:54.000 But setting up schools is.

00:54:56.000 All of the state schools at this point, in fact, it's still law in our country that every single school should have an element of Christian worship.

00:55:03.000 So we used to have hymns, the Lord's Prayer, and perhaps a C.S.

00:55:07.000 Lewis story in assembly, but that's all been ditched because it's all been secularized.

00:55:11.000 But of course, we have a culture where parents no longer feel it's their responsibility to educate their child.

00:55:16.000 They pass their child over to the state, and the state indoctrinates their child.

00:55:20.000 And so we need to offer an alternative.

00:55:21.000 And actually, Parental choice is a thing in our country.

00:55:24.000 So parents do get a say in where they can send their child.

00:55:27.000 So if we went around the country setting up good Christian schools, where we indoctrinate with Christian values, then we'd have a whole generation of people that can see the mess and can fight. 1.00

00:55:36.000 We'd create a church militant.

00:55:39.000 I love that.

00:55:40.000 We have time for... Hi.

00:55:43.000 Just first, I appreciate the use of the term Muhammad, and I haven't heard that since reading Mere Christianity by C.S.

00:55:48.000 Lewis, so that's refreshing.

00:55:50.000 And then, Charlie, I was really convicted watching one of your college things where you essentially boldly claimed that if you're reading less than 25 books a year, you're not taking learning seriously.

00:56:00.000 And so I just want to tell you that your book, I just finished on the airplane on the way here, and it's the first book in my adult life I ever finished in less than a week.

00:56:07.000 That said, Thank you.

00:56:10.000 Thank you.

00:56:12.000 That said, what do you both have as far as, not just book recommendations, but recommendations for discerning that the thing I'm about to read and absorb is historically honest?

00:56:26.000 Yeah, it's great.

00:56:26.000 So let me tell you a couple rules for reading books.

00:56:29.000 Number one, there's more than one way to read a book.

00:56:30.000 You can listen to books and you don't get extra points if you read or you listen, okay?

00:56:35.000 However you comprehend, okay?

00:56:37.000 Number two, and this is one of the most important, as someone who's read a lot of books in my life, and I try to do a hundred a year, Which is, if you find, as you're reading the book, that you're not getting a lot out of it, and you feel stuck, you don't have to keep reading that book.

00:56:50.000 That is a very, very important lesson, okay?

00:56:52.000 And here's another third thing.

00:56:53.000 You can jump around, too.

00:56:55.000 There's no rules against that.

00:56:56.000 Especially if it's written in such a manner where my book, by the way, is easy to jump around, right?

00:57:01.000 Each chapter exists as kind of its own.

00:57:04.000 But finally, look, the older the better.

00:57:07.000 And if it's existed for a long time, it's probably existed for a good reason.

00:57:10.000 And ask the question, has this piece of literature either inspired or built something beautiful, or is it pointing towards something beautiful?

00:57:19.000 And if it's not, then it's probably not a great use of your time.

00:57:22.000 And then finally, if someone you really trust or look up to is recommending that book, especially enthusiastically, that's the best of all reasons to read it, right?

00:57:32.000 I'm a big believer in two other things.

00:57:33.000 I got this from Dennis Prager.

00:57:34.000 Number one, every house should be filled with a library, at least where you have the physical look of books, so that kids are raised with at least an idea that learning is taken seriously.

00:57:43.000 Even if you don't even read those books, just the idea that physical books are around.

00:57:47.000 And the second thing is this, which is that we're flooded with information, starving for wisdom.

00:57:54.000 So books that are filled with wisdom more than knowledge.

00:57:57.000 Those are two different things, by the way.

00:57:58.000 Wisdom and facts are two different things.

00:58:00.000 Wisdom is the understanding of things that do not change.

00:58:03.000 That's why on college campuses, they're so confused because they have lots of facts at times, but they have no wisdom.

00:58:09.000 So wisdom is about things that will be true 200 years from now.

00:58:12.000 And they were true 200 years prior.

00:58:15.000 What is a woman? 1.00

00:58:15.000 What is a man? 1.00

00:58:16.000 What is justice?

00:58:17.000 What is love?

00:58:17.000 What is mercy?

00:58:17.000 What is truth?

00:58:18.000 What is goodness?

00:58:19.000 These are questions that are worthy of grappling and exploring.

00:58:22.000 And so, happy to share a reading list.

00:58:24.000 Do you have a thought, Calvin?

00:58:25.000 Because we've got to wrap up.

00:58:25.000 Yes.

00:58:26.000 First and foremost, C.S.

00:58:27.000 Lewis's collection is a good place to start.

00:58:30.000 But on the topic of books...

00:58:32.000 Tucker Carlson had an interview with someone recently who was talking about his book, and I thought, I'll check this out, I want to see this, because it sounded quite taboo.

00:58:38.000 Couldn't get it in the UK.

00:58:39.000 It was banned in the UK.

00:58:40.000 Could get it over here, but not in the UK.

00:58:42.000 And then there was another book that popped up, Cardinal Fernandez's horrible book, but I wanted to see what he'd written.

00:58:48.000 And then I searched it online, it didn't exist anywhere.

00:58:50.000 The ISBN had been removed all around the world, as in the Vatican had leaned on someone to wipe it from existence.

00:58:57.000 And then thirdly, a friend of mine was listening to an audiobook recently, and in this audiobook there were, it's like a John McCarr book, it was like a story of the Labour Party in Britain.

00:59:07.000 There was a bit of truth in this fiction book.

00:59:10.000 And so my friend said, I wanted to get note of this, I wanted to look into this further.

00:59:13.000 And so he ordered the physical copy of the book, and it came.

00:59:16.000 and the chapter was missing. So he ordered the previous version of the book

00:59:20.000 and he found the chapter was there but it had been rewritten.

00:59:22.000 And so at this point we're getting to the point where books are either

00:59:26.000 banned from the country, banned from your country, unavailable worldwide, or even

00:59:30.000 being doctored and the author of that book did not know that they changed the

00:59:33.000 words and or removed chapters.

00:59:35.000 And so I think we are reaching the point where we could potentially enter a new Dark Age, but the monks and the nuns held on to the knowledge in the previous Dark Age.

00:59:44.000 We don't have the monks and the nuns anymore, so it's on us to collect and own old books.

00:59:49.000 Get as many old books as you can and hold on to those and read old books.

00:59:52.000 This is so important.

00:59:53.000 Yeah, I mean, and store them.

00:59:54.000 Because they're going to edit them.

00:59:55.000 They're going to eliminate them.

00:59:57.000 I have three or four examples of that I could share as well.

00:59:59.000 Calvin Robinson, give it up for him.

01:00:00.000 He does great.

01:00:01.000 Thank you.

01:00:01.000 How can people support you and follow you, by the way?

01:00:06.000 Good question.

01:00:07.000 They're giving you a standing ovation, first of all.

01:00:09.000 You're very kind.

01:00:09.000 That's well deserved.

01:00:10.000 Thank you, thank you.

01:00:11.000 Really quick, I want Calvin to share how you guys can support him, then I gotta dash on stage.

01:00:21.000 Thank you, God bless you all.

01:00:22.000 CalvinRobinson.com is my substack, and I have a show with Lawrence Fox called Fox and Father.

01:00:27.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

01:00:28.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:00:31.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

The Charlie Kirk Show - August 01, 2024

Is Britain's Present America's Future? ft. Calvin Robinson

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