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00:00:47.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:54.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
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00:01:52.000Because I speak the truth, or at least I try to.
00:01:55.000I try to speak the Christian message in a country that used to be Christian, that has forgotten its way.
00:02:00.000Well, the Conservative Party recently kicked me out because, and to quote them, some of my tweets may be seen as anti-Muslim, which paints the picture that they want a Christian cleric to be pro-Muslim or something.
00:02:14.000It's a universalist attitude that all faiths are equal, all ideas are equal, all cultures are equal, and that we should just treat everything the same.
00:03:17.000The Reformation for England was the first Brexit.
00:03:20.000It said, we are an independent country, we don't want bishops in another land dictating to us the laws of this land.
00:03:25.000And so we stepped away from Rome, but we kept our faith, and we kept it very much intact.
00:03:30.000There were a few changes, the 39 Articles, the Book of Common Prayer, but essentially, Anglicanism is the English expression of the Catholic faith, small c Catholic.
00:03:39.000And so the Church of England has become very broad.
00:03:43.000There are evangelicals who are non-liturgical and very much charismatic, and then there are Anglo-Catholics who are very much like the Roman Catholics but without the Pope.
00:03:52.000So, you say a country that was once Christian?
00:04:58.000World War I and World War II were massive catalysts in this.
00:05:01.000But of course, liberalism has been pushed on us since, well, contraception, divorce, Remarriage, the feminist movements, all of these liberal ideologies have been pushed on us for the last hundred years and we've gradually given up ground on every single one.
00:05:16.000It's the frog in the boiling water effect.
00:05:17.000So there's been no moment where we say okay now we're a liberal nation but liberalism has been creeping in and replacing Christianity.
00:05:24.000And of course, secularism is not solid.
00:05:29.000And so what's happened is, that void that has replaced Christianity, that secular void, has been replaced with Mohammedanism.
00:05:36.000So, on the one front, liberalism has been chipping away at Christianity, but liberalism cannot replace Christianity, and so another faith has come in to replace it in its turn.
00:05:46.000So, you are one of the only outspoken people in Britain That I can think of in the faith community.
00:06:11.000But it feels like you're alone quite often.
00:06:12.000And it shouldn't, because the church should be there to be our spiritual pastors, no matter who we are or where we are.
00:06:18.000And in England, we've lost that because of our class system, massively, because the upper class, the upper middle class of clerics want to be seen as nice.
00:06:27.000They want to be seen as acceptable and reasonable and moderate, and so they don't want to rock the boat.
00:06:31.000They still want to go to the gentlemen's clubs, they still want to go to the House of Lords, they want to be a part of the establishment bubble, and you can only do that if you play the game.
00:06:40.000Now, we live in a time where we can no longer afford to play the game, and speaking the truth can cost you everything, but Christians should be able to step forward in the faith, to stand firm in the faith, and to Lose everything.
00:08:05.000We elected 15 Mohammedans to the Houses of Parliament.
00:08:08.000We've elected more liberals and more socialists than ever before.
00:08:11.000There are very few conservatives and very, very few Christians.
00:08:14.000We need more Christians to stand for office, we need more Christians to get out and vote, but it's not happening, and so if it doesn't, I don't know by what means we can take the country back.
00:08:22.000I see England has fallen, I see Europe has fallen, and if you look at it, Europe is a beauty.
00:09:00.000So Christians didn't speak out, that pastors did not speak out, the hyper-secularization of your country, and liberalism, which is a toxin on a society.
00:09:17.000When did the mass Muslim immigration begin, and why did you guys allow yourself to be invaded and conquered by, as you beautifully put it, the Mohammedans?
00:09:29.000Yeah, and I use that term Mohammedan for a reason.
00:09:31.000Oh, I'm going to use that, by the way.
00:09:32.000Good, because Muslim means true believer of God.
00:09:35.000And they're not true believers of God.
00:09:48.000But when immigration began, I mean mass immigration, in 1997 with Tony Blair, who is definitely not on our side, The purpose of it was GDP.
00:10:00.000So countries have been measuring their success by GDP for a long time, as if the success of a country is dictated by how much money is coming in and going out.
00:10:09.000But we've been using GDP and so they saw that the birth rates were declining, that British people were not having children, not starting families, and so they said we need to raise the population somehow.
00:10:42.000Instead, we imported mass immigration from countries with values that hate us, hate our way of life, and actually want to take over.
00:10:48.000And they come and get the amazing benefits that we provide, they use all our resources, and then our school, we have no school places, we have no hospital places, the country's a mess, and the people that we've imported do not want us to live.
00:11:31.000You could be Christian, you could also be part of MS-13 and be a Christian, so, not sure what to think of that.
00:11:35.000But yes, um, correct, generally the body politic that is being imported is a little bit more compatible with Western society than what you've lived through.
00:11:45.000But, so, Tony Blair did this in 97, that's very educational for me, and, but at no point did anyone say, we're an island?
00:11:55.000We only have so much land, so many resources, so many people.
00:11:59.000London is already, I think, the densest city besides Tokyo, if I'm not mistaken.
00:12:03.000Literally, you've got a hotel room, it might as well be a closet, right?
00:12:08.000What is the thought process of, let's go bring in people that are obviously going to disproportionately leech on social welfare, that do not share Western values, was this ever questioned
00:12:42.000You can preach for multi-ethnicity if you like, but multiculturalism does not work unless there's a predominant culture that people are unable to assimilate into.
00:12:49.000If you have multiple cultures, by definition you've got ghettoization, and you've got conflicting ideas and ideologies, and somewhere along the lines there's going to be a battle there.
00:12:58.000And so Tony Blair pushed this ideology that anyone questioning his ideology is racist and xenophobic.
00:13:04.000So the right, the Conservatives, again, were weak and cowardice and would not stand up and say, call me a racist, call me a xenophobe, I love my country, I want to protect my borders.
00:13:14.000Instead they say, okay, we're nice, we won't rock the boat, we'll play along with you.
00:13:46.000And strangely, The British tragedy is actually more applicable to us than Venezuela right now.
00:13:54.000Because it is a wealthy, once great, once Christian nation that had mass migration, diversity is our strength, and a very corrupt and weak ruling class.
00:14:05.000So you're coming here with a cautionary tale.
00:14:08.000We have a major presidential election.
00:14:11.000What are the stakes of this election as somebody who's an outsider, as someone who loves the West?
00:14:57.000Because if you survive, we survive with you.
00:14:59.000Since World War II, Britain, which used to have a great empire, has been the little brother following America around.
00:15:05.000And whenever there's been a bully in the prairie ground, we've called our big brother to help us.
00:15:10.000Now you guys have to remain our big brother, otherwise we will get bullied and we will get annihilated.
00:15:14.000And so we're looking to you for help, to stay strong, and to protect what you have, and what you know is true, beautiful, and good, and to keep Christ at the center of Christendom.
00:16:22.000So they like to put everyone into a box, which we find harmful.
00:16:25.000But for them it works, because they all vote together, they work together, they campaign together.
00:16:29.000And on the right, we tend to be entrepreneurial and individualistic, which is a problem because we tend to be on our own, or all coming up with the same ideas, but not working together, all thinking we have the best approach.
00:16:52.000We're things that unite us as well as things that separate us.
00:16:55.000We've got to see our strengths in those.
00:16:57.000And right here in America, you have that.
00:17:00.000You have that option to back the Conservatives, to back the Christians, and to make your voices heard.
00:17:04.000But as we heard last night, Christians aren't voting.
00:17:08.000Christians need to get out and vote and run for office, too.
00:17:11.000It's easy to sit on the sidelines and say, I can't vote for either candidate because neither of them are as overtly pro-life as they should be.
00:17:18.000Well, that's because more Christians aren't running.
00:17:19.000If more Christians were running, we'd have someone to vote for.
00:17:25.000And more Christians aren't involved in all the county process or the party processes, right?
00:17:30.000And so, Calvin, the stakes of this election are very high, but it's deeper than our election.
00:17:35.000I want to take a step back on the cultural landscape, because in some ways it's a perplexing thing, because you're farther gone on almost every issue except the mutilation of children.
00:17:49.000And this is where there really is no rhyme or rhythm here.
00:17:53.000You're farther gone on immigration and all this, but for whatever reason, in this country there are still several states, the most populous one in particular, California, that allows the medical mutilation of children under gender-affirming care.
00:18:05.000In your country it has now been outlawed.
00:18:36.000But it's only been halted for the last few months, and the Labour Party have just gone into government, so that could be turned around instantly.
00:18:42.000We have a Culture Secretary, a Minister of State for Culture, who came out the moment she got into office last month and said, the culture wars are over!
00:18:51.000Which made me think, does this mean she thinks she's won?
00:18:53.000And so last week she came out and said, The Conservatives banning men from women's sport was outrageous.
00:19:11.000Where we can win on this is the money.
00:19:13.000So there's so much money in transing children.
00:19:16.000But we're starting to reach a point now where people who are transed as teenagers are entering adulthood and they're saying, you harmed me.
00:19:28.000So the moment it no longer becomes commercially viable and actually becomes detrimental, they're going to stop doing it.
00:19:33.000So you've got to encourage these people and support these people, whether it's crowdfunding or giving them a platform to make sure that people who've been harmed by this evil ideology are held to account.
00:19:41.000And secondly, we must support Dr. Ethan Haim in Houston, who's being targeted by the Biden Department of Justice for blowing the whistle on the medical mutilation.
00:19:51.000And this is what drives me nuts when some pastors say, I can't vote for Trump.
00:19:55.000Do you not see what is going on with this DOJ?
00:19:59.000Just that issue alone is worth voting for Trump.
00:20:02.000He's sending out his shock troops after a doctor who blew the whistle on medical mutilation in the Houston Children's Hospital.
00:20:09.000That case will be dropped the first day that Donald Trump becomes president and a new Attorney General gets sworn in.
00:20:17.000Hey, this is Charlie Kirk, and I know a lot of you have been suffering under the Biden economy.
00:20:21.000Recently, school loan payments have been reinstated, and for many, it's adding thousands to their monthly expenses.
00:20:27.000My friends, Andrew Del Rey and Todd Avakian, they're amazing.
00:20:29.000They really helped me through a tough, tough situation recently.
00:21:41.000But before you get to your question, Trump wrote an executive order, which I think was one of the best pieces of legislation that I've ever seen.
00:21:47.000He signed this order against stereotyping children.
00:21:50.000So he said, if you are going to say that your school or your university is racist, we're no longer going to fund you, because we're not going to fund racist institutions.
00:21:57.000And so he defeated the critical race theory by using their own logic.
00:22:31.000A common question I get, so let's go back, I don't know if it happened this June, but I'm sure it did, is during Pride Month, London looks like a colonized city.
00:22:41.000It's bad, but it's not the worst I've seen.
00:22:42.000Yeah, so last June was really bad, I don't know if they repeated it, where every street had the new gay pride flag with the circle and the inverted triangle.
00:23:48.000They say, we are dominating you and there's nothing you can do about it.
00:23:52.000In fact, there was a video of last year where these workmen on Regent Street, one of the main streets in London, were lining the trans flag down the street.
00:24:01.000It's very much like what the SS did in Germany.
00:25:23.000I've got friends in England who have been arrested for silent prayer in their own heads.
00:25:27.000Arrested, charged, and they wait around for months with police intimidation and then at the last minute they drop it just before it goes to court.
00:25:34.000And so we have to be strong enough to actually go through with that, again, minor inconvenience and minor persecution to send a message that we will not be silenced by these child mutilating Insert derogatory term here.
00:25:49.000So help us understand though, and it's a deeper question than just, you know, the Mohammedans and the gay pride flags.
00:25:55.000Because for outsiders, it's a running joke.
00:26:00.000How on earth does the trans mafia, the purple haired jihadis, why do they get along with the actual jihadis?
00:26:07.000Right, so the trans mob are old-fashioned racists, right?
00:26:11.000So they see the Mohammedans as lesser than them, and they think they can patronize them, and they think they can educate them into a better way of being.
00:26:18.000They'll say, you know, you're medieval faith, but they won't say that to their face.
00:26:21.000They'll be like, we have a different standard for the Mohammedans than we do for the Christians.
00:26:25.000The Christians should be better, they should be more progressive, they should be more liberal.
00:26:28.000The Mohammedans can't help it because they're exotic, they're from another land, right?
00:26:53.000Watch our culture and our society and our values be deteriorated by the left, and then when there's a massive gaping hole, because nature abhors a vacuum, they'll step in.
00:27:03.000Like I say, 15 members of parliament that are Islamists now.
00:27:07.000We have a Mohammedan mayor of London who was a backer of the Nation of Islam.
00:27:12.000They are taking office, they're taking holes, voids that have been left, which would have been held by conservatives, that the liberals have destroyed.
00:28:11.000One minute she was a massive feminist hero, the next minute she's a transphobe.
00:28:14.000You can't keep up with the woke movement because they all hate each other really and truly, but they're sticking together because that's what their ideology does.
00:28:21.000So by 2050, what we see as woke today won't be woke then.
00:28:24.000It'll be something entirely different and unrecognizable, but it won't matter because they will genuinely be oppressed by then, by the Mohammedans.
00:28:31.000Which might be a good thing for them because they think they're oppressed now.
00:28:33.000Let's see what they're like when they're truly oppressed.
00:28:35.000So let's go even further here, Calvin.
00:28:39.000What a lot of people who call themselves conservative in both of our countries actually are, are liberals driving the speed limit.
00:28:47.000They're not where Marxists are liberals that are going 90 miles an hour.
00:28:54.000Most people that call themselves conservatives are actually liberals just wanting to go a little bit slower.
00:29:15.000Progress can be detrimental to our way of life.
00:29:18.000And so a conservative job should be to monitor and deter progress sometimes, and sometimes to engage with it and embrace it, but not always.
00:29:27.000We can't let the Liberals keep going on with things as long as we slow down the pace.
00:29:34.000Let's look at homosexuality as an example.
00:29:36.000Fifty years ago, there would have been no such thing as a gay person or a homosexual person.
00:29:40.000We would have recognized the act of sodomy, or that kind of act as a sinful act, and we would have said, no, that's sinful behavior, let's talk about how to live in Christ, whether that's marriage or celibacy, you know, chasteness.
00:29:53.000But now, we've let the language change, we've let the culture shift, because the liberals The boiling-the-frog-in-the-water effect, again, have said that, no, this is a person's being.
00:30:03.000This act is not just an act, it's the very essence of their identity.
00:30:07.000That sin shapes them and labels them, and they are that sin.
00:30:11.000And so you can no longer talk about the sin, because to talk about the sin is to talk about the person.
00:30:15.000Whereas Christians have always been, hate the sin, love the sinner.
00:30:18.000Whereas if the person identifies as the sin, When you're addressing that, you're hating the person.
00:30:24.000And that's the progress that conservatives have allowed, rather than halting it at the beginning.
00:30:29.000And it's the same with feminism, it's the same with the contraceptive movement, same with remarriage and divorce.
00:30:33.000All of these things we've said, well, let's just let them get on with it.
00:31:30.000Stop playing their game by their rules.
00:31:33.000So they're going to start painting Kamala Harris as this cool person.
00:31:36.000We're already seeing headlines of from cringe to cool.
00:31:39.000We know she's a horrible person, but we don't have to attack her.
00:31:42.000We can just show people what her policies have been.
00:31:44.000We can show people how she's voted and what she would implement if she was in office.
00:31:47.000But we've also got to stop expecting the left to play fair.
00:31:52.000We keep saying, you're a hypocrite, we keep holding mirrors up to them, but they don't care about their hypocrisy, because they hate us and they hate our way of life, and they think they are superior.
00:32:00.000So they don't mind being a hypocrite, they don't mind lying, they don't mind all of the things that we see as abhorrent, because they don't share our values.
00:32:07.000So we can't hold them to our standards.
00:32:09.000And so, in turn, we've got to hold ourselves to those higher standards.
00:32:13.000We've got to play by our rules, by God's rules, stop playing the left at their game, and that means Being fair, being true, honoring beauty and goodness, honoring our Lord, and actually living in Christ.
00:32:25.000I know it sounds like just a line they throw out there, but it shows when people live by truth, beauty, and goodness.
00:32:31.000It shows in every essence of your being.
00:32:33.000So the left is horrible, it's toxic, it's divisive, and people are getting sick of it.
00:32:38.000Not just the left, but people who see the left are getting sick of it.
00:32:40.000And so when they look around and they see the world darkening and see the West imploding, they see Europe lost and they see America becoming the last stand.
00:32:47.000They look around and they say, where is the truth?
00:32:55.000That's your opportunity to introduce them to Jesus Christ.
00:32:57.000That is how we win people back, by opening their hearts, helping that lead them to Christ, for him to soften their hearts, for him to convert them to him.
00:33:05.000Of course, we do want to win the election and we have to convince our friends and our family that the orange man is not necessarily bad.
00:33:12.000But in the long term, We've got to lead them to Christ.
00:33:24.000And I will add to that, that one of the reasons why we're in the constitutional crisis we're in, we mentioned this at a previous discussion, is that the current form of American government is wholly and only suitable for a Christian and moral and religious people.
00:33:42.000And so we're at this place where can we still keep that form of government going when the country is barely Christian?
00:34:28.000But when you take Christ out of it, democracy as a method doesn't function anymore.
00:34:32.000And so we're seeing already that Mohammedans are saying, well, we need blasphemy laws.
00:34:35.000But they're not saying it overtly, but they're saying if someone is Islamophobic, they should be dealt with.
00:34:40.000And then they changed the definition of Islamophobia, which used to be an irrational fear of Islam, to a dislike of Islam, thereby going round the houses to implement blasphemy laws in our country, because our system wasn't set up to protect us against this.
00:34:55.000It wasn't made for Hindu, Sikhs, Mohammedans or any other faith.
00:34:58.000It was made for a Christian nation, with Christian representatives.
00:35:01.000And it's a great shame that we've been infiltrated, but we have to remind ourselves that we've got to put him first and foremost, and put him back in, because without him everything else falls apart.
00:36:11.000Luckily, like, I've really been looking into you.
00:36:14.000I do all of my research on the side of like, I'm growing here, but I feel like I've been placed and they won't allow me to change my major.
00:36:21.000I'm sorry to interrupt, Calvin, but is this a study abroad program, or is this actually... I'm actually there, so I'm there for two more years, and I can't change my major.
00:36:29.000I'm completely stuck, so I'm like, alright, God's putting me in this situation, how can I be a beacon of light to them when all of them call me a bigot, like, xenophobic, all this stuff.
00:36:40.000The turning point's outlawed at a lot of colleges in the UK, but, um, yeah.
00:36:49.000But actually, I think if you can find joy in the suffering, remind yourself that every time they persecute you, you are blessed because of it, and they hated him before they hated you.
00:36:58.000If you can remind yourself that constantly, you'll be a good use for people around you.
00:37:03.000I don't know why the Lord's put you there, but I'm assuming it's because there are very few Christians in that environment.
00:37:07.000So if you were, for example, to make your faith known, invite your friends to prayers before class or after class or something like that, so that they can almost exercise themselves of the wickedness that's
00:37:18.000surrounding them in that gay city and in that gay university, that could be a good start.
00:37:21.000Yeah, and look at it, you're a missionary.
00:37:43.000Let's go here, and then, Daisy, let's work deeper into the crowd, okay?
00:37:47.000In America, thanks to Charlie and a lot of other people that come on to college campuses, there seems to be a movement of young men, especially, who are becoming more conservative.
00:37:56.000Are there people in the UK doing things like Charlie's doing, and do you see A similar movement, especially with young men, 18 to 25.
00:38:06.000Well, I wouldn't say that, but yes, yes, we are.
00:38:11.000We've got a new movement called Disciples for Christ.
00:38:13.000And we have a lot of younger people finding tradition and looking to find something that's outside of modernity because modernity is so degenerate and indecent.
00:38:57.000I want to also mention something, is that one of the reasons why we have a robust conservative movement is because we still have the best free speech protections of almost any country on the planet.
00:39:12.000What the founders did to be so explicit in our free speech protections, In the UK, Tommy Robinson, how many times has this guy been in jail?
00:39:21.000Because 20 years ago, Tommy highlighted the problem of, I'm sure you guys have heard about this, the Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs, they call them.
00:39:30.000And what they do is, it's part of the Pakistani Muhammadan culture, they don't see people outside of their faith as human, and what they do is they take young white British girls and they rape them.
00:39:41.000And Tommy noticed this 20 years ago and called it out.
00:39:43.000But because he's a working class football lad, the establishment hated him because he was exposing them.
00:39:50.000And we found out that the police, the local government, the national government were all complicit in covering up these Pakistani Muslim rape gangs.
00:43:57.000Maybe it wasn't confused, but I'm curious about the problem you were talking about with labeling and, you know, and how it's affected our situation.
00:44:07.000I work in the field of psychology, and it seems like there's an opposite trend going on also in the DSM.
00:45:38.000Just so you understand, that transgenderism, which used to be called gender dysphoria in the DSM-4, 3, and 2, gender dysphoria, which was a treatable issue of an individual that had a brain-body disconnect, And the treatment was very simple.
00:45:55.000It's called watchful waiting, which is you do not give them drugs, you do not give them interventions, but you allow puberty to be a solution, not a problem, and you try to find underlying issues and underlying events or traumas that lead to it.
00:46:08.000Secondly, almost every single person who has gender dysphoria has underlying issues of bipolar issues, schizophrenic issues, generalized anxiety disorder, depression, so on and so forth.
00:46:20.000This is the Bible, by the way, that all of your local psychologists... If you go here in West Palm Beach, a local psychologist that, you know, just right out of school, they'll just go to the DSM-5.
00:46:29.000Gender dysphoria is no longer a condition to be treated.
00:47:17.000Whereas liberals will always say, well, freedom is freedom to, or freedom from, or, you know, their own personal freedom to do whatever they choose, or it's not.
00:47:25.000And the moment you go down that path, it always ends up, always, in paedophilia, because it says, well, this behaviour, this is a protected group, they're stuck, they can't help how they feel, they're born that way, this or that, the other, it's always an excuse, because there's no objective good or bad.
00:47:39.000And we can say as Christians that, no, anyone who's attracted to a child, that is a bad behaviour, that's a bad thought, that's a person who needs help and prayer.
00:47:47.000But they would protect them as a characteristic.
00:47:50.000And so we've got to get back to teaching about the binaries of what is true and false, what's right and wrong, what's good and bad.
00:47:56.000And for so long they've said everything is a grey area.
00:48:05.000Pedophilia and bestiality is another one.
00:48:07.000I saw recently in the UK, some psychologist was saying, actually, some people are attracted to animals and animals can't consent to being fed.
00:48:14.000So why would animals have to consent to being Manipulated in a sexual way?
00:48:49.000When you take over a city, you use the symbology of the civilization that once existed in a humiliating, mocking way.
00:48:56.000I mean, there's hundreds of examples of this.
00:48:59.000And by the way, Christians used to do this to Islamic symbols and vice versa.
00:49:02.000But when you take over a city, you're like, I'm in charge!
00:49:06.000And this used to be your symbol and not anymore.
00:49:09.000And so what you saw at the Olympics, I don't know if you guys saw this or not last evening, at the Olympics last night, which I was busy, but I saw some of the clips, right?
00:49:18.000In France, which is another occupied conquered country, was in their opening ceremony, viewed by a billion people worldwide, that a secular country decided to go out of their way to recreate The Last Supper in a trans gay way, openly taunting it.
00:49:40.000It's because they want to remind you on a daily basis that we're in charge, you guys lost, and that your symbol of the most powerful, most beautiful painting, which is the Last Supper, it's in thousands of churches worldwide, is that mythology is gone, and that we're in charge.
00:50:45.000But again, people keep holding up the mirror to them and trying to expose their hypocrisy and say things like, well, you wouldn't do this for Islam, would you?
00:52:36.000Listen, I'm Casey Krejci, founder of the Great Awakening Project in America, and I want to point out that in America there are tons of awesome ministries.
00:52:45.000I'm also an avid supporter of Charlie's TPUSA faith.
00:52:51.000Look at Charlie, 20 years old you started this.
00:52:54.000You're a young man, you didn't come in with tons of influence, you literally built it person by person, step by step, and you chose the colleges, and you dominated in the colleges for now it's been a dozen years, and you literally have changed the culture.
00:53:11.000And so what happens is we have so many ministries.
00:53:21.000But what I'm saying is that that method that you went about doing, you've proven that method.
00:53:27.000And the problem is we have so many wonderful ministries, even in the same city, even in your place.
00:53:32.000But it's great ministries and none of them know what each other are doing.
00:53:35.000It's like they're out there trying to have an impact and they don't even know what their friends down the street are doing.
00:53:40.000So my question, I guess, would be to Calvin, listen, you're in a conquered country, okay?
00:53:47.000So let's just say that If money were not an option, okay, and all these wonderful ministries that have various strata, they go to the culture in different ways.
00:53:59.000The Seven Mountains or however you look at it, they go after culture in different ways and different expertise.
00:54:05.000And so, if money were not an option, and you had your dream, because obviously you've been in the crosshairs of a lot of ministries and a lot of culture.
00:54:17.000If you had your dream, what would you do?
00:54:20.000How would you, and I'd like Charlie to speak to this as an idea too, how would you overwhelm the systems in that country that has been conquered but still
00:54:29.000has to put... I mean, with Christ all things are possible.
00:54:56.000All of the state schools at this point, in fact, it's still law in our country that every single school should have an element of Christian worship.
00:55:03.000So we used to have hymns, the Lord's Prayer, and perhaps a C.S.
00:55:07.000Lewis story in assembly, but that's all been ditched because it's all been secularized.
00:55:11.000But of course, we have a culture where parents no longer feel it's their responsibility to educate their child.
00:55:16.000They pass their child over to the state, and the state indoctrinates their child.
00:55:20.000And so we need to offer an alternative.
00:55:21.000And actually, Parental choice is a thing in our country.
00:55:24.000So parents do get a say in where they can send their child.
00:55:27.000So if we went around the country setting up good Christian schools, where we indoctrinate with Christian values, then we'd have a whole generation of people that can see the mess and can fight.
00:55:50.000And then, Charlie, I was really convicted watching one of your college things where you essentially boldly claimed that if you're reading less than 25 books a year, you're not taking learning seriously.
00:56:00.000And so I just want to tell you that your book, I just finished on the airplane on the way here, and it's the first book in my adult life I ever finished in less than a week.
00:56:12.000That said, what do you both have as far as, not just book recommendations, but recommendations for discerning that the thing I'm about to read and absorb is historically honest?
00:56:37.000Number two, and this is one of the most important, as someone who's read a lot of books in my life, and I try to do a hundred a year, Which is, if you find, as you're reading the book, that you're not getting a lot out of it, and you feel stuck, you don't have to keep reading that book.
00:56:50.000That is a very, very important lesson, okay?
00:56:56.000Especially if it's written in such a manner where my book, by the way, is easy to jump around, right?
00:57:01.000Each chapter exists as kind of its own.
00:57:04.000But finally, look, the older the better.
00:57:07.000And if it's existed for a long time, it's probably existed for a good reason.
00:57:10.000And ask the question, has this piece of literature either inspired or built something beautiful, or is it pointing towards something beautiful?
00:57:19.000And if it's not, then it's probably not a great use of your time.
00:57:22.000And then finally, if someone you really trust or look up to is recommending that book, especially enthusiastically, that's the best of all reasons to read it, right?
00:57:32.000I'm a big believer in two other things.
00:57:34.000Number one, every house should be filled with a library, at least where you have the physical look of books, so that kids are raised with at least an idea that learning is taken seriously.
00:57:43.000Even if you don't even read those books, just the idea that physical books are around.
00:57:47.000And the second thing is this, which is that we're flooded with information, starving for wisdom.
00:57:54.000So books that are filled with wisdom more than knowledge.
00:57:57.000Those are two different things, by the way.
00:57:58.000Wisdom and facts are two different things.
00:58:00.000Wisdom is the understanding of things that do not change.
00:58:03.000That's why on college campuses, they're so confused because they have lots of facts at times, but they have no wisdom.
00:58:09.000So wisdom is about things that will be true 200 years from now.
00:58:32.000Tucker Carlson had an interview with someone recently who was talking about his book, and I thought, I'll check this out, I want to see this, because it sounded quite taboo.
00:58:40.000Could get it over here, but not in the UK.
00:58:42.000And then there was another book that popped up, Cardinal Fernandez's horrible book, but I wanted to see what he'd written.
00:58:48.000And then I searched it online, it didn't exist anywhere.
00:58:50.000The ISBN had been removed all around the world, as in the Vatican had leaned on someone to wipe it from existence.
00:58:57.000And then thirdly, a friend of mine was listening to an audiobook recently, and in this audiobook there were, it's like a John McCarr book, it was like a story of the Labour Party in Britain.
00:59:07.000There was a bit of truth in this fiction book.
00:59:10.000And so my friend said, I wanted to get note of this, I wanted to look into this further.
00:59:13.000And so he ordered the physical copy of the book, and it came.
00:59:16.000and the chapter was missing. So he ordered the previous version of the book
00:59:20.000and he found the chapter was there but it had been rewritten.
00:59:22.000And so at this point we're getting to the point where books are either
00:59:26.000banned from the country, banned from your country, unavailable worldwide, or even
00:59:30.000being doctored and the author of that book did not know that they changed the
00:59:35.000And so I think we are reaching the point where we could potentially enter a new Dark Age, but the monks and the nuns held on to the knowledge in the previous Dark Age.
00:59:44.000We don't have the monks and the nuns anymore, so it's on us to collect and own old books.
00:59:49.000Get as many old books as you can and hold on to those and read old books.