The Charlie Kirk Show - Is China Going To War?

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00:01:33.000 There is this one liner I hear often.

00:01:35.000 We are a nation of immigrants.

00:01:38.000 We are a nation of immigrants.

00:01:39.000 It's partially true, but it's not totally true.

00:01:43.000 There are separate, there are distinct types of people that come to a nation.

00:01:49.000 An immigrant is an individual that comes to a nation that is largely already constituted, has laws, has a system of government established, has cities, has a place that already is built.

00:02:05.000 A settler comes to a largely non-established country.

00:02:11.000 A settler comes to a barren land, a place of opportunity, and you have to build something new.

00:02:18.000 So it's more accurate to say that America was first a nation of settlers.

00:02:24.000 When the first pilgrims came to Plymouth Rock, when the first pilgrims came to the colonies, it was a largely non-established country.

00:02:33.000 State constitutions had to be composed.

00:02:36.000 Local governments had to be formed.

00:02:38.000 Traditions had to be established.

00:02:40.000 Where did they get those ideas from?

00:02:43.000 They got them from the biblical canon.

00:02:46.000 They got them from the great books.

00:02:48.000 They got them from what was still bubbling up and is now known as the Western tradition.

00:02:55.000 We're a nation first and foremost of settlers, settlers that went west.

00:02:59.000 Settlers that went west to the once barren deserts of Arizona and Utah, the barren deserts of Nevada and California, the barren deserts of Oregon and Washington.

00:03:10.000 Now, the way they tell the story is that anyone that was a settler was a colonialist and was a murderer and a terrible person, even though we, the settlers, those people that came and descended from those individuals, built the most decent, prosperous, generous, and greatest civilization a nation ever to exist in the history of the planet.

00:03:29.000 Now, immigrants, of course, can, and they have the potential to enrich a society.

00:03:35.000 No one denies that.

00:03:37.000 Reading Elon Musk's book and studying him closely, I can say that Elon Musk has enriched America.

00:03:47.000 Elon Musk is a unique person.

00:03:50.000 And if you can get an Elon Musk once every 10 years, you're a very blessed country.

00:03:55.000 However, there is this false idealism that has set in, that all immigrants are going to be like Elon Musk, that all people coming to the country are going to embrace Western values and Western traditions.

00:04:08.000 And now we know over the last couple decades that is not the case.

00:04:11.000 Assimilation must be key.

00:04:13.000 It must be core to who we are.

00:04:15.000 And we must also be honest of when you start bringing so many people into the nation that your own citizens are not put first.

00:04:25.000 So any immigration policy must first start with what is best for the people already here, period. 0.98

00:04:32.000 Not what is some abstract, false moral goal or aim of, well, we must be generous or we must be benevolent.

00:04:40.000 Those things are nice, but if you do not prioritize your own nation, your own citizenry, then all of it is completely irrelevant.

00:04:48.000 That's number one.

00:04:49.000 What is best for the native born? 1.00

00:04:51.000 What is best for the American citizen?

00:04:55.000 This is one of the main arguments, one of the superpowers behind Donald Trump, Trump's political campaign, is America first.

00:05:03.000 We're going to put our own citizens first.

00:05:05.000 Secondly, running up against some of these kind of core beliefs, when do you then reach the limit?

00:05:14.000 This is why I laugh when some people say, well, you know, I'm an atheist or I'm a secularist.

00:05:19.000 You might think you are, but at some point you have guiding principles that you consider to be good or bad.

00:05:25.000 I want to know what those principles are.

00:05:29.000 And so the people of Chicago or the people in New York, they pride themselves on being open-minded and diversity is our strength and being welcoming.

00:05:39.000 And something that needs to be repeated is, of course, we've gone through the great replacement reality.

00:05:43.000 We know that's happening.

00:05:44.000 Is that the once great cities are becoming third world dumping grounds?

00:05:51.000 And the most evil elites, they are using our own compassion against us.

00:06:02.000 What has been a unique characteristic of our history, being the most generous, the most benevolent, and the most compassionate country ever to exist, that as a core value, we are now being taken advantage of.

00:06:22.000 This is used in the trans debate.

00:06:24.000 This is used in immigration, especially, which is they use the misapplication of scripture or Christian values and say, well, don't you care for the least of these?

00:06:34.000 Don't you care for this?

00:06:35.000 This is at O'Hare International Airport.

00:06:38.000 Completely overrun.

00:06:41.000 This is weaponized, fake altruism.

00:06:45.000 And they keep on making you compare up against, well, aren't you compassionate?

00:06:49.000 Don't you love these people?

00:06:51.000 This is at O'Hare International Airport, one of the largest airports on the planet, that is just being completely overrun.

00:06:59.000 It is a dumping ground for the third world. 1.00

00:07:04.000 We must be willing to say that we prioritize the homeland first, and I don't care what names you call me.

00:07:13.000 There is nothing compassionate, loving, altruistic to take over O'Hare International Airport.

00:07:20.000 And it gets even worse.

00:07:23.000 At Hamilton High School in New York, this just goes to show how weak the American citizen has become.

00:07:30.000 Where is the breaking point?

00:07:31.000 We don't know.

00:07:32.000 There are schools that are being taken over by illegals. 1.00

00:07:35.000 In the city of New York, students are being told that they have to go back to online classes.

00:07:41.000 Why?

00:07:43.000 They have to go back to online classes because illegals are taking over their kids' schools. 1.00

00:07:51.000 There are so many foreigners now in the city of New York.

00:07:54.000 So many foreigners in Texas.

00:07:56.000 So many foreigners in Arizona.

00:07:58.000 12,000 to 15,000 people a day.

00:08:02.000 They have to take over the social services of American citizens.

00:08:07.000 How is that enriching our country?

00:08:10.000 Are they going to share our values?

00:08:13.000 Are they going to assimilate?

00:08:15.000 You cannot have mass migration at these levels from countries that don't primarily share our values.

00:08:23.000 And this is where the thought crime comes in, everybody.

00:08:25.000 This is why when we used to preference European countries, it worked.

00:08:30.000 Because the European countries had similar books, texts, goals, principles that we in the West share.

00:08:40.000 Blackstone, Locke, the Bible, the principles of the Ten Commandments.

00:08:47.000 You run into major issues when you have mass migration from countries where they don't always have the same values.

00:08:55.000 You run up against a mass assimilation problem.

00:08:59.000 You become a nation of strangers.

00:09:03.000 Now, of course, the people at Martha's Vineyard don't want them.

00:09:06.000 The people of the Hamptons don't want them.

00:09:08.000 And good for them for not wanting them.

00:09:11.000 Because I wouldn't want them in my neighborhood either.

00:09:14.000 But the point, of course, is they're the ones that are designing and they are the architects of these policies.

00:09:21.000 Because these are nothing more than pawns in a massive replacement game.

00:09:26.000 In California, California has lost over a million Native-born Americans in the last 18 months.

00:09:33.000 But they are replacing them with a million third worlders. 1.00

00:09:37.000 Immigration can enrich a country.

00:09:40.000 Immigration can also impoverish a country. 1.00

00:09:43.000 When was the last time you heard anybody in leadership say that?

00:09:49.000 The way that we have been hypnotized to believe is that immigration is nothing more than a net positive.

00:09:57.000 It can be, but like all things, it can be misapplied, misused.

00:10:03.000 It can be an advantage or it can be suicidal.

00:10:07.000 It is not necessarily good or bad.

00:10:09.000 It's what you do with it.

00:10:10.000 It's how you use it.

00:10:12.000 And in this case, it is being used as a pocket knife on the throat of the American Republic, slowly slitting our throat.

00:10:24.000 We're obsessed with it like a cult, and we're afraid to even call it out because we've been told that diversity is our strength.

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00:11:26.000 What if I told you that foreigners who live in your land will gain more and more power while you gradually lose yours? 0.99

00:11:35.000 They will have money to lend you, but you will have none to lend them.

00:11:39.000 In the end, they will be your rulers.

00:11:41.000 Oh, those aren't my words.

00:11:42.000 That's just one of the last things that Moses said in his farewell address in Deuteronomy 28, 43.

00:11:47.000 One of the least appreciated verses of the Torah, where the open border Christian crowd ignores the fact and the context and the weight of what Moses was saying. 0.72

00:11:57.000 Moses knew he was not going into the promised land.

00:12:00.000 He was telling the next generation, guys, here are the things that you must be concerned about.

00:12:05.000 The things you must be a cautionary tale.

00:12:09.000 And as you're about to enter the land of milk and honey, as you're about to continue and establish the nation of Israel, as you're about to go into the land of Canaan, be very careful about the foreigners who live in your land and they will gain power over you. 0.99

00:12:25.000 If every pastor in the country even quoted that verse, we would have a much more balanced immigration conversation in this country.

00:12:33.000 I want to continue the immigration thing, but this is some breaking news.

00:12:35.000 I can't help it.

00:12:37.000 Kanakoa, I follow them very closely on both Telegram and on Twitter.

00:12:40.000 They're terrific.

00:12:41.000 And they've been on this, and apparently the White House visitor logs are public and you can get them now.

00:12:47.000 It turns out that there were a fair amount of visitors to the White House Council's office.

00:12:54.000 In fact, there were people in Letitia James' office and Letitia James, she also visited the White House.

00:13:02.000 Now she was part of a big party for one of them, but this is starting to become awfully suspicious.

00:13:08.000 You got Letitia James, which, to be perfectly honest, is more explicable than Big Fanny Willis.

00:13:14.000 Let's just be honest. 0.98

00:13:16.000 She is the attorney general of one of the largest states in the country.

00:13:19.000 That makes more sense than Big Fanny.

00:13:21.000 But then you also have Nathan Wade.

00:13:24.000 At some point, how many black law enforcement officers that are going after Donald Trump make their way to the White House counsel's office?

00:13:34.000 I mean, Alvin Bragg is the only one that we're waiting for, by the way.

00:13:38.000 Can we get some subpoenas, everybody?

00:13:41.000 Don't minimize this.

00:13:44.000 Remember how significant it was when we learned that Loretta Lynch, the Attorney General of the United States, left her private jet to go on a private jet with Bill Clinton for 45 minutes on the tarmac of Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport.

00:14:02.000 Something that we only know because of a reporter who tragically committed suicide about a year and a half and two years ago, which tends to happen if you report negative news against the Clintons.

00:14:12.000 Poor guy.

00:14:13.000 I actually messaged him on Twitter and then he killed himself.

00:14:15.000 We only know it because of a single reporter.

00:14:17.000 And he says, oh, we were just talking about golf and grandkids.

00:14:21.000 And then days later, Loretta Lynch comes out and she says that we are going to pursue no criminal charges against Hill Dog.

00:14:29.000 No criminal charges.

00:14:31.000 Don't minimize how important it is optically and from a narrative standpoint to establish meetings, time, place, and manner.

00:14:41.000 And it puts them in a box.

00:14:43.000 Remember, we're dealing with treacherous snakes.

00:14:46.000 We're dealing with snakes.

00:14:49.000 They're going to try to slither away out of it.

00:14:51.000 Oh, we never talked about this.

00:14:53.000 But then when you have a time, place, and manner, billable hours, Letitia James, Nathan Wade, Big Fanny Willis, it becomes harder for these serpents in the grass to slither away to use Orwellian doublespeak and to lie to us and to gaslight us.

00:15:11.000 It becomes nearly impossible.

00:15:14.000 And that's what happened.

00:15:15.000 Remember, Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton, they never wanted that meeting to be made public.

00:15:20.000 They thought they would get away with it.

00:15:21.000 But a single reporter, God bless him, he killed himself, he reported on the whole thing.

00:15:26.000 He wrote a book about it too.

00:15:27.000 He wrote a whole book about it, and no one wanted him to publish this story, and he did it anyway.

00:15:31.000 And really sad, tragic story.

00:15:33.000 And he goes and he says, hey, these guys met, and it blew up the whole narrative.

00:15:38.000 Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch never wanted that to become public because at the very least, it became a number one news story in the fall of 2016 that Hillary Clinton, via her husband, Bill Clinton, was still running the government.

00:15:54.000 And Loretta Lynch was either giving a heads up, coordinating, and you're trying to tell me that the Attorney General of the United States went on a private jet and just talked to a former president whose wife is currently running for the president, is under criminal investigation by the FBI and the Department of Justice for destroying classified information.

00:16:08.000 And they're just talking about golf and grandkids.

00:16:09.000 It's a lie.

00:16:10.000 Everyone knew it was a lie. 0.76

00:16:11.000 And the fact we knew about the meeting was the thread, the cause set in motion that led towards the inevitable political deterioration of Hillary Clinton in the fall of 2020.

00:16:23.000 2016.

00:16:23.000 We are on to something, everybody.

00:16:25.000 Republicans in Georgia and in Congress need to get off their fanny and go after Fanny.

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00:17:31.000 Joining us now is Gordon Chang, author of a very important book I want to direct your attention to: China is Going to War by Gordon Chang.

00:17:38.000 Gordon, thank you for joining the program.

00:17:40.000 The top story I want to have you navigate is the Taiwanese election.

00:17:44.000 When is it and what is the significance here?

00:17:46.000 The election is on the 13th of this month, Saturday, and we have three candidates.

00:17:52.000 One of them who is leading is the pro-Taiwan candidate, Vice President William Lai of the Democratic Progressive Party.

00:17:59.000 And the two others are sort of pro-China.

00:18:03.000 And the more important of those two is Ho Yen Yi of the Guomindong, the KMT or Nationalist Party.

00:18:10.000 That's the party that wants good relations with China, that wants to integrate the Taiwan and Chinese economies.

00:18:17.000 And when you have that integration, that can only benefit the Communist Party in China.

00:18:21.000 So there's a lot on the line here.

00:18:25.000 Yeah, so is there suspicion that one of these parties is actually an attaché of the Chinese Communist Party, almost an intelligence asset?

00:18:34.000 Well, the Kuomintong and the Communist Party, they fought a civil war, which Sheng Kai-shek basically lost in 1949.

00:18:43.000 Both of them believe in one China, that Taiwan is part of China.

00:18:48.000 Now, they have different views of what one China is, but there are many in the KMT who basically want to surrender to Beijing.

00:18:56.000 Now, the good news, Charlie, is that most people in Taiwan don't want that.

00:19:01.000 I mean, you can, very, very few, but the few who do want it are in powerful positions in the KMT.

00:19:09.000 The thing about Taiwan is it's a democratic polity.

00:19:12.000 And you have basically no less than 60%, usually about 80% of people in self-identification surveys say they're Taiwanese only.

00:19:22.000 You never have more than 7% and usually under 5% in these surveys who say they are Chinese only.

00:19:29.000 And so the Taiwanese, they want good relations with Beijing.

00:19:33.000 You know, everybody does in a sense.

00:19:35.000 But they'd say, look, we are not China.

00:19:38.000 So even if one of the pro-China candidates gets elected on Saturday, it'd be very hard to surrender Taiwan.

00:19:46.000 But that's not to say there's not going to be trouble because Beijing is going to basically is demanding annexation now.

00:19:54.000 And whoever is elected, whether it's William Lai, the vice president, or whether it's one of these other two, Beijing is going to just gonna... huff and puff and it is going to create tension.

00:20:06.000 So this is going to be a rough period.

00:20:08.000 Whoever gets elected on Saturday.

00:20:11.000 Is there, there are rumblings that the Chinese Communist Party, based on the results, might make a move for Taiwan.

00:20:18.000 Can you walk through, though, how that is?

00:20:19.000 It's a little bit oversimplified to say that.

00:20:22.000 It's a geographically tricky island, huge cliffs.

00:20:26.000 It is difficult to do an amphibious ground invasion.

00:20:30.000 It wouldn't necessarily, it sounds easier than it actually is.

00:20:35.000 Do you see any, first walk through that?

00:20:37.000 And then secondly, do you see any evidence that the Chinese Communist Party might try a military maneuver based on the results of the election?

00:20:45.000 I'll answer your second question first.

00:20:48.000 Yes, I think that they might actually do so.

00:20:51.000 Everything you said is right.

00:20:54.000 The main island of Taiwan is about 110 miles away from mainland China.

00:21:00.000 And it's a big body of water.

00:21:02.000 It is difficult to navigate.

00:21:04.000 It would be a combined airland sea operation, something that China has never done in its history.

00:21:11.000 But there are islands of Taiwan that are no more than a mile and a half, two miles from Chinese ports.

00:21:19.000 There's Kinmin and Matsu.

00:21:22.000 And some people worry that China, instead of being able to gobble up everything, might decide to grab one of these outlying islands, which would be a relatively easy maneuver for them to do. 0.63

00:21:34.000 Right now in China, China's a mess. 1.00

00:21:38.000 It's not just that the economy is grinding down.

00:21:41.000 The political system is in turmoil.

00:21:43.000 We don't know exactly what's going on, Charlie, because there is the system's opaque, but we're seeing symptoms that do not occur unless there is intense distress.

00:21:55.000 So I don't think that the Communist Party at this point would launch a combined airland sea operation, but it could very well stumble into war because Xi Jinping now has, I think, a lot of domestic incentives to create trouble abroad.

00:22:10.000 And if there were trouble of any sort, the Communist Party is in no mood to act reasonably with regard to anybody else, including the United States.

00:22:20.000 So you mentioned political turmoil.

00:22:22.000 Can you elaborate on that?

00:22:24.000 It's really hard to get accurate information out of China.

00:22:27.000 I mean, Xi Jinping is projecting strength internationally.

00:22:30.000 What sort of domestic turmoil is happening in the mainland of China?

00:22:35.000 A couple things.

00:22:37.000 So for instance, the former minister Qing Gong, a favorite of Xi Jinping, was removed last year.

00:22:45.000 Some people say that he had committed suicide.

00:22:49.000 Other people say he was executed, but he disappeared.

00:22:54.000 Highly unusual for someone who was a Xi Jinping protege.

00:22:58.000 The defense minister, guy named General Li Shang Fu, was last seen in public on August 29th.

00:23:04.000 He was not formally removed until October 24th.

00:23:08.000 His replacement was not named until December 29th.

00:23:12.000 We can't explain those long delays.

00:23:15.000 In the China's Rocket Force, which is the branch of the China's military which controls almost all the country's nuclear weapons, the top two commanders were relieved in the summer.

00:23:26.000 70 rocket force people have been disappeared in the last half of last year.

00:23:32.000 All sorts of other prominent people have been under a cloud.

00:23:36.000 And the most recent rumor is that a guy named Lil He, who was the guy who negotiated with the Trump administration on the phase one trade deal in January of 2020, he's been missing now for three weeks.

00:23:50.000 And people say he's detained.

00:23:51.000 We can't confirm that.

00:23:52.000 But the point is, I can go on for about an hour to tell you about all the people who have either died or disappeared under very unusual circumstances.

00:24:03.000 That means the political system is clearly intense infighting, but we don't know.

00:24:09.000 As you say, it's an opaque system.

00:24:11.000 We don't know exactly what's going on, but we know that it is serious.

00:24:15.000 So, the big fear, as you have told me and others, is when the Chinese people start to get anxious and they start to rumble. 1.00

00:24:25.000 Are we seeing signs of that?

00:24:26.000 So, we're obviously seeing, as you have perfectly put through, the kind of elite mystery of disappearances.

00:24:34.000 Are we seeing the rank and file?

00:24:36.000 Are we seeing the middle five to 600 million people that are not in abject poverty, but they own a little bit and they go to work? 0.71

00:24:43.000 They are the make or break population of China. 0.99

00:24:46.000 Are they starting to view the ruling Chinese Communist Party negatively?

00:24:51.000 Are we seeing any developments in that regard?

00:24:54.000 We've seen a fair amount.

00:24:56.000 So, beginning last October and beginning through January, there were a series of extraordinary protests in China.

00:25:02.000 Some of them, we had people in Shanghai expressing revolutionary sentiments, also in Beijing about taking down the Communist Party.

00:25:11.000 But in general, we know that people are extremely unhappy.

00:25:16.000 And it was not just the COVID lockdowns.

00:25:19.000 What we're seeing right now are China's people are basically opting out of society. 1.00

00:25:25.000 We know that because a lot of them are coming into our country through the open southern border. 0.75

00:25:31.000 So, that shows that Chinese people have given up on their country. 0.70

00:25:36.000 Part of it is because the economy, which was once growing at 8%, 9%, 10% a year, is probably not growing now.

00:25:45.000 And the property market is collapsing.

00:25:48.000 Property is important, Charlie, because 70%, 70% of the wealth of the Chinese people is tied up in property. 1.00

00:25:57.000 And that property values have been plummeting.

00:26:00.000 And that has created a sense of gloom and pessimism across Chinese society.

00:26:06.000 As they say, kids are laying flat.

00:26:09.000 In other words, just getting out of society.

00:26:13.000 The phrase that is popular these days is, quote, let it rot.

00:26:17.000 And that tells you how the Chinese people, and especially people in their 20s, are viewing their own society.

00:26:25.000 So that's an important point.

00:26:28.000 The youth of China, are they starting to rumble for regime change?

00:26:33.000 What does that even look like?

00:26:34.000 It's such a totalitarian country.

00:26:36.000 Yeah, it's not so much regime change.

00:26:39.000 Although, in November of last year, yeah, there were regime change protests, but it's more just opting out of society.

00:26:48.000 And I'll give you a statistics which gives you a sense of where they are.

00:26:54.000 In March of last year, when the official unemployment rate was 19.7% for people in the 16 to 24 age cohort, it was really 46.5%, according to a professor from Peking University, which is sort of like China's Harvard.

00:27:13.000 Because 16 million people in that cohort had decided that they could no longer look for work because there was no work available.

00:27:23.000 So you're talking almost half of the people in the most productive age group just decided they were out of society.

00:27:32.000 And that number is probably worse now because there's been severe deterioration in the Chinese economy from last March to today.

00:27:41.000 So right now, you know, it's just a sense of gloom.

00:27:44.000 And, you know, one of these indicators of gloom is that the Chinese people are just not wanting to have children. 1.00

00:27:51.000 They are that pessimistic.

00:27:55.000 Traditional media is crumbling.

00:27:57.000 Why?

00:27:58.000 Because they're hiding something, something big.

00:28:00.000 People are realizing they're being lied to left and right, even by institutions they thought they could trust.

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00:28:55.000 So Gordon, let me ask you, what should the American policy be to exploit some of these weaknesses and to try and continue to be the world's superpower?

00:29:06.000 What you're saying is that there are some domestic turmoil issues.

00:29:10.000 There is confusion.

00:29:12.000 There is discord.

00:29:13.000 There's disharmony.

00:29:14.000 What can we do from a policy standpoint, economically, strategically, to exploit these weaknesses?

00:29:22.000 Well, we should cut off the blood supply to a regime that means us harm, which means that we should not be allowing investment into Chinese stocks. 0.99

00:29:31.000 We should be cutting off technical cooperation arrangements between the United States and China.

00:29:36.000 And to the greatest extent possible, we should be stopping trade.

00:29:40.000 We should be trading with our friends rather than with an enemy, an enemy that has actually not only declared a quote-unquote people's war on us, but also has actually killed Americans with fentanyl and with COVID.

00:29:52.000 So we need to stop the money that is going to supporting the Communist Party.

00:29:57.000 And we have a limited opportunity to do that, Charlie.

00:29:59.000 So the question you asked is the critical one.

00:30:02.000 And it's the one that every American policymaker should be asking at this particular moment.

00:30:07.000 Isn't one of the tricks or one of the challenges, I should say, the manufacturing is part of it, but also the banking, gaming, casinos, and sports, telecom media.

00:30:23.000 That's a huge issue.

00:30:25.000 And we get so fixated on textiles that they make our t-shirts and stuff.

00:30:29.000 That's actually offshoring slowly to Vietnam, to Laos, to Cambodia, to Nicaragua, to Honduras.

00:30:35.000 That window is closing with or without pressure from the West.

00:30:40.000 The issue, though, is how many American elites have their billionaire lifestyle tied to cheap money flows from the Chinese Communist Party?

00:30:49.000 A lot of them, and not all of them are Democrats.

00:30:52.000 Some of them are Republicans.

00:30:54.000 And some of the people in the American political establishment who propagate CCP narratives are unfortunately Republicans.

00:31:04.000 So we've got a problem in both political parties.

00:31:07.000 So what we need to do is to make sure that they don't have incentives to support the communist regime.

00:31:14.000 And that means cutting these economic ties.

00:31:18.000 Neal, one other thing that we should be doing, and we should be doing this regardless, we should be getting the Communist Party out of our country.

00:31:26.000 So Chinese nationals shouldn't be owning land, especially farmland in our country. 1.00

00:31:32.000 They shouldn't be involved in our banking sector because that is the core of the American economy.

00:31:38.000 You know, we can go on and on.

00:31:40.000 And we have just allowed China to establish these relationships deep into the United States.

00:31:46.000 And we just need to start cutting them one by one as quickly as we possibly can because we know that China means us harm.

00:31:54.000 This guy, Chen Tian Chao, owns 198,000 acres of timberland in Oregon.

00:32:02.000 Did you see this story, Gordon, that came out the other day?

00:32:04.000 He's the second largest foreign owner of U.S. land.

00:32:08.000 And it's not just that he owns barren land in eastern Oregon that doesn't do much.

00:32:14.000 This is highly productive, valuable production of timber, which is a core industry in Oregon and in America.

00:32:22.000 Where did we get so screwed up where we allow foreign adversaries to buy up our strategic minerals and advantages?

00:32:31.000 Yeah, that's an important question.

00:32:32.000 You know, no American can own a square inch in China.

00:32:37.000 It's just not legally permitted.

00:32:40.000 So why do we allow Chinese nationals to own critical U.S. resources? 1.00

00:32:45.000 Why do we allow them to own any resources of our country?

00:32:48.000 This is just an issue of reciprocity.

00:32:51.000 And the night now is becoming an issue of necessity.

00:32:54.000 That is the theme.

00:32:56.000 They use our own values against us, whether it be with immigration, whether it be with economics.

00:33:01.000 We pride ourselves on being this open society and being a bastion of free marketeering.

00:33:07.000 And the bad guys, they then push what might be an admirable quality in some sense to the limit and they invert it as a tool of suicide and take advantage of us.

00:33:18.000 And they call us chumps along the way.

00:33:20.000 Thank you so much, Gordon.

00:33:21.000 Great work.

00:33:22.000 Thank you, Charlie.

00:33:22.000 Thanks so much.

00:33:23.000 It's an important takeaway, everybody.

00:33:25.000 We don't have time to build it out properly.

00:33:28.000 But the bad guys use our core values against us.

00:33:34.000 Oh, you're for freedom of speech?

00:33:35.000 Then aren't you for drag queens gyrating in front of kids in libraries? 0.95

00:33:40.000 Oh, you're for an open society? 1.00

00:33:42.000 Why wouldn't you want a Chinaman to come in and buy all this farmland in Oregon? 1.00

00:33:46.000 Oh, you're for generosity and compassion?

00:33:49.000 Why wouldn't you want a bunch of third worlders flooding your airports? 1.00

00:33:53.000 They use our own values and push them to limits where they no longer become advantages.

00:34:01.000 They become impediments.

00:34:03.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:04.000 Email us as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.

00:34:06.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - January 11, 2024

Is China Going To War?

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