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00:01:35.000We've been waiting for it for quite some time, and it is Collin Plume, friend of mine, and great American, great patriot, entrepreneur, who runs Noble Gold Investments, and I still have the silver you gave me.
00:01:49.000We gave Andrew such a hard time, because he tore the plastic, and we were with him for a month, and now you're telling me I could just take it off?
00:01:56.000You could say, yeah, I mean, it's silver, so it's not going to have an issue.
00:02:00.000So this is from the Istanbul Gold Refinery.
00:04:14.000People are dumping fiat money all over the world, they're dumping bonds, and they're looking for tangible investments just because they know that we're just at the beginning of this inflation.
00:05:35.000I'm very conservative with my expectations.
00:05:39.000And I think that when I look at the markets and you just see all this money moving out of typical safe haven investments, Then it makes sense for gold to make sense.
00:05:49.000And I think also people are realizing that the banks paying for 4.5% is really, and I hate to use this term, but I'm going to, it's really fool's gold.
00:06:02.000If the bank is willing to pay you 4.5%, what do you really need to make out in the market?
00:06:08.000So everybody that really has any sense realizes that that 4.5% is just, they're throwing that at you because they're going to make 15-20% on the market, right?
00:06:27.000Gold is up from January, I think we're at like 26-27% from this year.
00:06:35.000And then silver also went on a... No, I have a whole thing on silver, I'm going to go through.
00:06:40.000So I think it's what it is, is like, you know, you have people that realize, they're starting to open up to the idea that you can't just rely on a 401k.
00:06:50.000You can't just rely on your employer, that you have to have these different assets out there.
00:06:55.000Having a self-directed IRA in gold or in real estate You know, I heard you talking about recently talking about how you know The federal government owns so much land and they should sell that land to the states and to individuals and that would be a big coup So I think that there's there's just opportunities out there that that people are looking at and alternative investments gold Bitcoin, you know, these investments that no one was talking about 10 years ago are becoming very popular with everyone.
00:07:26.000Well, and so I want to take a step back, and then I want to get into the silver thing, because we have silver right here.
00:07:30.000And silver is interesting, because they're usually related, but they're not always correctly related.
00:07:36.000But the principles of what we're living through, it doesn't take someone who is overly sophisticated.
00:07:44.000So when the government controls the money supply, and the money supply expands artificially, and there's only so much silver in the world, and there's only so much gold in circulation, correct?
00:08:00.000If dollar bills continue voluminously, then all of a sudden the finite becomes more valuable, because then you have more dollar bills chasing fewer goods.
00:08:12.000The reason I knew that gold was going to go to $2,300, because if you just look at inflation of other items that we are buying every day, like food and electricity and all these other things that we need, And electricity and energy is obviously very interesting, because it does tie into silver.
00:08:30.000But I knew that we were going to have this ramp of gold, and now it's sort of testing.
00:08:36.000Once it broke $2,000, that was a real testing point.
00:08:39.000And I remember in 2008, mid-2008, 2009, when gold broke $1,000.
00:08:46.000And everyone was saying, you know, you had these hairy dents, and a lot of these guys saying it's going to go back to $300,
00:08:51.000and they, you know, talking about all these things.
00:08:53.000But what they didn't realize is that we have This debt that we've accumulated and our GDP growth, we've done something we've never done.
00:09:02.000And that's why they really couldn't understand it.
00:09:06.000They couldn't understand that gold could hit these numbers because we've done something.
00:09:25.000And then now we have this, you know, really predicament of, you know, higher interest rates.
00:09:31.000And how is the Fed going to try to pull those interest rates down?
00:09:34.000But they also have a predicament because nobody wants to buy our treasury bonds.
00:09:38.000And so if nobody buys our treasury bonds, the bond prices have to go up, the rates have to go up, they have to be able to, we need to have these bonds continue to sell.
00:09:45.000So that's why this year, I did think that they were going to lower rates a little bit quicker than they have.
00:09:51.000But, and mostly because I thought they would do it to try to move Biden.
00:09:56.000A hundred percent, but they've been skittish on that.
00:09:58.000They've been skittish because they technically, based on their mandate, they actually can't do it.
00:10:28.000So the ruling class regime is like, well, better to have kind of stagnant growth than... I mean, if you get to 5% inflation, you get to really... That's very, very unstable.
00:10:39.000Just so we're clear, inflation and monthly rates are still over 5% nationally.
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00:11:57.000Yeah, I'm reading... Rick Atkinson, he did a number of books about World War II.
00:12:01.000And funny enough, on the ride over here, the gentleman that drove me was a veteran, so we started talking about the book.
00:12:09.000He served in Vietnam, and yeah, so I'm always just fascinated.
00:12:12.000And World War II, I've spent probably too long of my life studying it.
00:12:17.000I'm just fascinated about how they did it, how they got from, you know, how they moved all these people from the water and into the land, and it was impossible.
00:13:14.000It really was—I mean, I'm a believer in God, and I think we both share a belief in the higher power, which is that it was a God thing that the Germans didn't take the warning seriously.
00:14:14.000And it was basically a mowing field. I mean, the film Saving Private Ryan does really capture
00:14:20.000that, I think, better than any other picture.
00:14:23.000Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And it was also a time where it...
00:14:28.000It was, you know, people wanted to join, you know, people were, this was a time where actually people did want to do this.
00:14:36.000And they wanted to fight, the thing they talk about a lot in this book is that they were fighting for their country, but they were fighting for their their brother, the person next to them. That was the main...
00:15:18.000Also big institutional guys, guys that are on hedge fund, Wall Street, across the board.
00:15:23.000There seems to be a trend that is now harmonizing amongst high income and low income where we want to go to assets we can touch like silver.
00:15:38.000Yeah, and I think that it's not if it's going to happen, it's sort of when, right?
00:15:44.000Because you look at the BRICS countries, not to go outside this country, but to just talk about the BRICS nations are coming together and that coalition is really growing.
00:15:54.000In their October meeting, October 22nd and 24th in Russia, they specifically are going to be discussing how to get away from the de-dollarization, how to create their own currency, and they've had significant talks about doing it in gold and having gold-backed, which would be unbelievable to the market.
00:18:33.000It broke it in 1983 and it broke it in 2011.
00:18:37.000People remember, you know, a quantitative easing 2009 to 11 and things, you know, the money supply opened up, which I predict, and I've been saying this for a year and I think I'm laying on it, I do think we're going to see some kind of opening up of the money supply happening soon.
00:19:21.000So another way that you could do that also fiscally, not monetarily, by government just saying, here's universal basic income, which is a really bad idea.
00:19:51.000Louis Vuitton, makeup, a lot of these items.
00:19:54.000So people spent the money they got from the government, which you never should have sent, not on stocks or saving money.
00:20:00.000Yeah, I mean, 2020 to 2021, we had the lowest debt for about personal debt for about a year, there was a really good period where people, they still bought some stuff, but they really kind of shrunk down.
00:20:12.000But actually, what they were doing is, like you said, they were just taking the government's money.
00:20:16.000And they just kind of put it in a different place, whereas the smart money in that situation should have said like, hey, I'm going to buy Amazon stock or something, or I'm going to learn a trade.
00:20:26.000I'm going to do like, you know, and this is the big thing that I'm excited about when with Trump is that I think the idea and everyone's, you know, pissed about the tariff talk and all this stuff, but ultimately like getting jobs back to our shore.
00:21:47.000And so I think that's really the big... And that's the big idea of what we do at Noble Gold Investments, is the idea of taking back... And I always talk about this when you see me anywhere.
00:21:58.000I always talk about taking back your own control.
00:22:01.000And a big idea of taking back your own control with an IRA with us is that people get in
00:22:06.000gold and silver, and there's been a lot of people this year that have taken profits that
00:22:09.000bought gold from me at $1,400 an ounce four years ago.
00:22:13.000And they're going to sell at $2,300, and they're going to go into some other investment.
00:22:18.000And I think gold's going to continue to go up, but the idea that they can do that and
00:22:22.000they have that control is really important.
00:22:24.000The other thing that people don't realize with us is that we're one of the few instruments in the world, investments, that we don't make a monthly fee.
00:22:32.000People don't realize how much the fees are in these 401ks.
00:22:35.000They don't realize how much is going away.
00:22:48.000Even when you sell back to us, there's no profit for us.
00:22:50.000Because I can just take back that gold bar and sell it to somebody else.
00:22:55.000We've structured Noble Gold Investments so that we sell bars at the lowest possible price, we get you into good products, and then when the market's up and you go, hey, you know what, I've got to fix the roof, or I've got to do this, guess what?
00:23:14.000And Noble Gold, you guys are super ethical.
00:23:18.000There's a lot of other gold companies that are not exactly having great times right now, and you guys continue to be on the straight and narrow.
00:23:24.000Yeah, and the reason a lot of our competitors are having problems is because they charge outrageous commissions, and now people see the price of gold at $2,300, and they go, well, I've got to be in profit now.
00:26:15.000A lot of times, at least in my year with MMT, the language and the concepts can be kind of unnecessarily confusing, but there is no question that the government prints money, and then it uses that money to... So, yeah, I guess I'm just... I can't really talk... I don't get it.
00:26:37.000I don't know what they're talking about, because it's like...
00:26:42.000The government clearly prints money, it does it all the time, and it clearly borrows, otherwise we wouldn't be having this debt and deficit conversation, so I don't think there's anything confusing there.
00:26:54.000So, just to be clear, I thought that was AI when I first saw it.
00:26:59.000This is Jared Bernstein, who again, it's not like he's some random intern.
00:27:04.000This guy is the chair of the entire American economic strategy, chief economist, and economic policy advisor, and he is the chair of the Economic Advisory Council.
00:27:15.000These are the people that want to make economic decisions for your family.
00:27:18.000Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of it comes down to just It's pretty simple.
00:27:22.000It's debt versus GDP growth as a country and how do we increase that GDP growth and how do we get growth, wage growth.
00:27:33.000And it was what we talked about earlier, is that the way you fix wage growth is you bring more manufacturing back here, which is what we're talking about.
00:27:40.000Or you create tariffs that make it expensive, and we get a piece of the action.
00:28:01.000A lot of companies I see out there, they're hiring talent all over the world.
00:28:05.000And I believe that every dollar I spend with an employee here comes back, right?
00:28:10.000And so the big picture of what he's confused about is a lot of it is that we're in such tremendous amount of debt, we don't have a choice.
00:28:18.000I mean, once we went off the gold standard, once the dollar wasn't pegged by gold anymore, it's just been an absolute printing press.
00:28:25.000And so yeah, there has been a lot of wealth that's been created in a smaller amount of people.
00:28:30.000But ultimately, to get money back to the middle class in the right way is that we have to focus on bringing the right kind of jobs here, not government jobs, like the right kind of private sector jobs.
00:28:42.000And the way that you do that is you make things again.
00:28:45.000And so talking to a lot of business owners and people that are trying to preserve their wealth, inflation is a primary concern on people's minds.
00:29:45.000Not yet, but the ZIG, they've backed it by $580 million.
00:29:51.000Because obviously they had the heaviest inflation currency in the world.
00:29:55.000If you believe that countries are going to do that, if you believe that we will continue to use silver in everything that we're using here today, then you have to look at what's the possible trajectory.
00:30:08.000And if you look at 1983 when gold hit $900 an ounce and you look at today's price and you just look at the charts of how things have gone up from 1983 to today, I think you can make a very strong argument that gold could be three to six times higher by 2030.
00:30:23.000And I think silver will make a very strong argument to break $100 an ounce.
00:30:29.000I think that the mining cost is so expensive now.
00:30:32.000Mexico has said they cannot continue to mine.
00:30:35.000There's been silver mines that, even with the price going up, that have closed.
00:30:38.000Because they can't afford it at the price, right?
00:30:40.000Ultimately, they have to make a profit.
00:30:42.000So even at $29 and some change, they believe it's still, it's not a profitable endeavor.
00:30:47.000Which means eventually it will become profitable.
00:31:02.000I don't think you should have all your money in assets that are managed with heavy fees.
00:31:08.000And I definitely think having too much money in the banks is, even with this fool's gold of four and a half percent, I think people will look back So much more to discuss here economically.
00:31:29.000The stock market seems a little more fragile than they ever want to lead you on to believe.
00:31:33.000So how has gold and silver done versus the market?
00:32:10.000And not everyone's 401k or their mutual fund is going to have those.
00:32:16.000Maybe it hasn't now, but the growth's already been in there.
00:32:20.000So that's something to think about, too.
00:32:21.000I think that's what it is, is that people are getting more comfortable with the idea.
00:32:27.000It's sort of an old-school investment, Charlie, in that the idea that not everything is somewhere else, the idea that you actually own something by yourself, is Is becoming more in fashion now.
00:32:39.000And I think that, because if you think about everything else, someone owns a piece of everything else that you kind of own.
00:32:48.000The government's, you know, doing heavy taxes every time you do something.
00:32:53.000You know, people think real estate's such a great investment, and it can be long-term, but, you know, anytime you fix your house, there's fees, you know, there's a lot.
00:34:46.000There might be some horror stories with that stuff.
00:34:48.000There's a depository in Delaware that went out of business recently that said they had gold and silver and nobody was doing audits or checks, and unfortunately they had like, I think, 50% of what they should have.
00:35:35.000Yeah, so an IRA, any old 401k for people that left, everyone's left a job, you might have an old account.
00:35:41.000You know, it's really for someone that's looking to get out of So, anyone that's looking to learn, I'd say it's a great time to get educated.
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00:35:50.000You can absolutely, but if you feel like gold is something that you'd like to learn about,
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