The Charlie Kirk Show - March 03, 2025


Is It Time for Democrats to "Play Dead?"


Episode Stats

Length

28 minutes

Words per Minute

166.3588

Word Count

4,683

Sentence Count

390

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Scott Baller joins the show about spreading the gospel all across the country. We also have an incredible conversation about my campus tour and what I m learning about what's going on on college campuses.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Saturate USA Scott Baller joins the show about spreading the gospel all across the country.
00:00:05.000 We also have an incredible conversation about my campus tour.
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00:00:29.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:31.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
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00:00:41.000 He's an incredible guy.
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00:01:27.000 I was on campus at the University of Florida.
00:01:30.000 We had an amazing turnout, a record turnout, actually.
00:01:34.000 I have been at the University of Florida multiple times.
00:01:36.000 In fact, Ryan could probably go back into the archives.
00:01:40.000 I, back in 2019, visited the University of Florida, and we were getting screamed at, and we had protesters.
00:01:49.000 It was not an easy campus visit.
00:01:52.000 I mean, it was typical at the time, a lot of opposition, a lot of activist spark on the left.
00:01:58.000 Andrew went to the University of Florida with me.
00:02:00.000 I actually went with Donald Trump Jr. two or three weeks previous to that, and there were protests everywhere.
00:02:06.000 Well, we returned to the University of Florida, and we were met with over 2,000 friendly supporters, 2,000 students.
00:02:16.000 That were in support of us.
00:02:18.000 In fact, it was so overwhelming at the end, there almost was a creation of a tunnel where I had to walk through to be able to exit people asking for selfies and for signatures.
00:02:28.000 It was very similar to like a college football team entering a stadium.
00:02:34.000 There were a couple liberals, one interaction in particular that will probably go viral, of a young man who was not dumb.
00:02:43.000 He was very passionate.
00:02:46.000 Well-read.
00:02:47.000 And I asked him, I said, are you guys willing to move on from this idea that men can compete in women's sports?
00:03:01.000 I said, it's not popular.
00:03:03.000 Can we just end the chapter on this?
00:03:06.000 And he said, absolutely not.
00:03:09.000 He said that trans men should be able to compete, trans women should be able to compete.
00:03:15.000 He was so married to it.
00:03:17.000 And for any of you that think the Democrats are going to adjust from the grassroots, it's not going to happen.
00:03:24.000 Now, there might be a candidate that comes in and declares war on the base of the Democrat Party, but the base of the Democrat Party is more on board for this nonsense than ever before.
00:03:35.000 The base of the Democrat Party thinks that there's nothing wrong with men stealing medals and awards from women.
00:03:42.000 They have made a deal with the trans zealots of the base of their party, and they are married to it.
00:03:49.000 But more broadly, the biggest takeaway is how the Democrat base has never had to deal with losing a culture war battle.
00:03:59.000 They can't psychologically accept it.
00:04:02.000 They've never had to do this in their existence.
00:04:06.000 They are outnumbered now on campus.
00:04:08.000 No, not necessarily outnumbered.
00:04:09.000 I think if you took a poll on campus, these campuses are still probably five to ten points to the left.
00:04:15.000 But there's a passivity to the Democrat activism on campus.
00:04:20.000 There is none.
00:04:21.000 And there is energy and there is vitality behind any one of us that are Trump-supporting conservatives.
00:04:31.000 Everything they can remember.
00:04:34.000 As far as being Democrats and leftists, this has always been a one-way ratchet.
00:04:38.000 There were professors.
00:04:39.000 It's very interesting.
00:04:40.000 I'm getting more and more teachers and professors that are coming up and asking me questions, which of course I'm well.
00:04:45.000 This is not just a student prove me wrong.
00:04:47.000 Anybody.
00:04:48.000 There was a PhD professor.
00:04:51.000 Professor of history.
00:04:52.000 And oh, what are those moments I wish that Blake would have been there?
00:04:55.000 Oh, I wish Blake would have been there.
00:04:56.000 This guy was a PhD of the interwar period between World War I and World War II. And look, I know...
00:05:03.000 A little bit about that.
00:05:05.000 I know in the general population a fair amount, but a little bit compared to this guy was he was like, well, Charlie, don't you see the similarities between the rise of Hitler and the rise of Donald Trump?
00:05:16.000 I teach this professionally.
00:05:17.000 I'm a PhD.
00:05:18.000 And I think that everyone needs to know that the rise of Hitler and Donald Trump are very similar.
00:05:23.000 It's just it's such a sloppy, shallow analysis.
00:05:28.000 It's total garbage.
00:05:29.000 It's complete garbage.
00:05:30.000 And this was his contention in front of the entire audience, him being the PhD.
00:05:34.000 And Blake just made a great point in the chat, which is exactly right.
00:05:37.000 I told him, I said, can you please get another reference point other than Nazi Germany?
00:05:42.000 So Blake and I are on the same page.
00:05:43.000 I said, can you read about any other country at any other time?
00:05:46.000 There's a lot of other things that happened in history other than the evils of the 1930s and the 1940s.
00:05:53.000 And he's just so focused on this, saying, nope.
00:05:56.000 Most important thing ever, Donald Trump's rise is very similar to the rise of Hitler.
00:06:03.000 What is so important, everybody, is that we are living through a potential generational realignment that could become permanent.
00:06:11.000 James Carville wrote a piece.
00:06:13.000 If you guys can pull up this piece, I think it's very important.
00:06:16.000 James Carville wrote a piece giving his recommendations for the Democrat Party.
00:06:22.000 James Carville said, listen.
00:06:24.000 We as Democrats don't have a leader.
00:06:26.000 We don't have the energy on the ground.
00:06:28.000 He suggested and recommended that Democrats roll over and play dead.
00:06:34.000 That was James Carville's recommendation.
00:06:37.000 Roll over and play dead.
00:06:39.000 And that is a very dangerous and unusual political strategy.
00:06:46.000 He said, quote, we need a strategic political retreat.
00:06:52.000 A strategic political retreat.
00:06:54.000 And I can tell you in modern digital political warfare, I don't think that's going to work for them.
00:07:00.000 Again, I could be wrong.
00:07:01.000 Because every day we are winning over new converts.
00:07:05.000 Every day we are winning over new young fans.
00:07:09.000 And there is no sizable, well-funded opposition.
00:07:12.000 And it really makes you wonder that once you start...
00:07:15.000 Once you stop the funding at USAID, all of a sudden these campuses simmer down a little bit.
00:07:20.000 Now I know I might be going a little too far in that direction, but it really makes you think, how much of a racket of a money flow was USAID towards the pressure campaign of the left?
00:07:31.000 James Carville is basically saying this.
00:07:34.000 Stop.
00:07:35.000 Stop it all.
00:07:36.000 Wait and hope Trump screws up.
00:07:37.000 But so far Trump's strategy has been popular and I think we're in a brave new era.
00:07:40.000 I think we're in a completely new chapter.
00:07:43.000 The digital online chapter where news is moving with such high velocity.
00:07:47.000 We are reaching new demographics and new audiences.
00:07:52.000 James Carville says, quote, the best thing Democrats can do at this moment.
00:07:56.000 Roll over and play dead.
00:07:58.000 Allow the Republicans to crumble beneath their own weight and make the American people miss us.
00:08:02.000 Only until the Trump administration has spiraled into the low 40s or 30s in public approval.
00:08:07.000 Should we make like a pack of hyenas and go for the juggler?
00:08:10.000 Until then, I'm calling for a strategic political retreat.
00:08:12.000 It's very, very risky, Mr. Carville, because what if we're actually increasing our ranks?
00:08:18.000 And by the way, it's not just funding USAID. It's cuts to NIH, NSF, and the ban on DEI at colleges.
00:08:24.000 Do you guys know when you get an NIH grant, let me take the University of Pennsylvania, for example.
00:08:28.000 The University of Pennsylvania will do a lot of NIH research, and they'll apply for these grants.
00:08:33.000 Do you know that they are able...
00:08:35.000 To mark up on top of the grant 10, 25, 40% for overhead?
00:08:42.000 Donald Trump signed an executive order capping what is called a supplementation.
00:08:46.000 It's a supplementation adage to any NIH grant to only be 10%.
00:08:51.000 If that ends up being held up in court, which of course it should be, the University of Pennsylvania will lose $270 million a year.
00:09:04.000 Let me say that again.
00:09:05.000 The University of Pennsylvania will lose $270 million a year if they only get 10% for supplementation.
00:09:16.000 That's just one school.
00:09:18.000 That is a singular school, everybody.
00:09:22.000 $270 million a year.
00:09:25.000 These universities are now sending out panicked emails.
00:09:28.000 We got an internal email from an Ivy League school notifying everyone that in all conference At their conference are brown bag lunches now.
00:09:37.000 No more free taxpayer lunches, literally.
00:09:40.000 James Carville says for the Democrats, stay put, don't do anything, roll over, play dead.
00:09:46.000 While we at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action are embarking on the most aggressive evangelism campaign, for lack of a better term, conversion campaign, persuasion campaign, and it's working.
00:09:59.000 And obviously, I want the Democrats to fail, not succeed.
00:10:02.000 But they're going all in that we are going to fumble.
00:10:06.000 But we have our foot on the gas.
00:10:08.000 We are ascendant.
00:10:09.000 And we are multiplying our numbers on a daily basis.
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00:11:16.000 I learn a lot in these dialogues.
00:11:18.000 In fact, the dialogue at University of South Florida, I had a young man bring up something in regards to the trans debate that I should have known, but I didn't.
00:11:26.000 And I did some research called the Swire Syndrome at a campus at University of Florida.
00:11:33.000 There were other little elements.
00:11:35.000 There was a young man, you guys will get a kick out of this video, saying that we need to legalize LSD. Made a pretty compelling case.
00:11:43.000 I wasn't able to counter it or counter or support it.
00:11:47.000 Not exactly a subject matter that I care about.
00:11:50.000 But almost like clockwork.
00:11:52.000 I would say the number one question I receive with regularity is not even abortion.
00:12:00.000 I did not get a single abortion question yesterday at the University of Florida.
00:12:04.000 Pretty amazing when you think about it.
00:12:06.000 I will get marijuana a lot.
00:12:09.000 And there were some guys smoking marijuana the whole time yesterday.
00:12:11.000 It smelled terrible.
00:12:13.000 But I will always get a question on Israel.
00:12:18.000 And of course, we are America first here on this program.
00:12:21.000 We are not America only.
00:12:23.000 Israel is an ally.
00:12:24.000 I love Israel.
00:12:25.000 I treasure Israel.
00:12:26.000 It's a beautiful country.
00:12:27.000 Not a perfect government.
00:12:29.000 And not everything they've ever done is admirable or good or defensible, nor is the American government.
00:12:34.000 That's not the point.
00:12:39.000 Israel is a place worth defending.
00:12:42.000 Israel as a place with sovereignty and borders.
00:12:46.000 And Israel shines a lot brighter when you contrast it with the barbarism and the disgusting behavior, that's being very sweet, the butchery of its neighbors.
00:13:07.000 For anyone that has eyes to see and ears to hear and actually reads the Qadith and reads parts of the Koran, you know that conquest is an Islamic value.
00:13:19.000 To submit is literally what Islam means.
00:13:23.000 To make those submit.
00:13:25.000 It's very hard to get serious Muslims to admit to this, that they actually do want conquest, that they do want to take over.
00:13:37.000 Qaddafi said something similar in the late 90s saying that we're going to take over Europe without ever having to lift a sword.
00:13:43.000 So there has definitely been enough intellectual cover that said this.
00:13:50.000 We've had imams in England saying they want to mount the West like a woman to be mounted and subdued.
00:13:56.000 This young man, I understand he's just a young man, I believe though is an embodiment of a lot of the Islamic If
00:14:27.000 Israel laid down all of their weapons and said our military is no more, what would happen?
00:14:33.000 At this point in time, I don't believe they would come to a two-state solution after everything that's gone on.
00:14:38.000 That wasn't the question.
00:14:40.000 If Israel disbanded its military, what would happen?
00:14:43.000 The Palestinians would take over, but they would let the Jews...
00:14:46.000 Oh, okay.
00:14:46.000 Listen, listen.
00:14:47.000 Listen.
00:14:48.000 Not forcefully.
00:14:49.000 This is how they operate.
00:14:51.000 This is how Muslims operate Islamically.
00:14:53.000 They let them live under them in Jizdi.
00:14:55.000 Yeah, they tax them and they let them live and they take that tax and give it back to them.
00:14:59.000 How do you think the Ottoman Empire worked and lasted 600 years?
00:15:02.000 How do you think the Golden Age of Islam lasted for 300 years?
00:15:07.000 Because this is history.
00:15:09.000 So, no, I just want to make sure I understand.
00:15:11.000 So, they would just take over mostly peacefully?
00:15:14.000 No, most definitely peacefully, because that's what their basis is.
00:15:17.000 Can you show me an example of Jews living peacefully under Islamic rule?
00:15:22.000 Most definitely.
00:15:22.000 Where?
00:15:23.000 When Hamas had Israeli captives.
00:15:27.000 The Israeli captives, they killed?
00:15:29.000 There was a nine-month-old baby that just got returned home as a corpse by Hamas.
00:15:36.000 But understand that that young man, which is not an embodiment of all Muslims, I get along with a lot of Muslims, but that young man, who I do not believe is a vast minority, believes that the example of how Jews and Muslims should coexist in the Middle East is what happened when Hamas took these Jews hostage.
00:15:54.000 That's what he believes is an example of living peacefully when they slit the throats of these young little babies and return them back as corpses.
00:16:02.000 The Israeli Hamas struggle is one versus civilization and barbarism.
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00:17:18.000 Okay, joining us now is a very important guest, Scott Baller from SaturateUSA.
00:17:24.000 That is saturateusa.org, saturateusa.org.
00:17:27.000 Scott, welcome back to the program.
00:17:29.000 I know you want to update our audience on the incredible growth and numbers you've been experiencing.
00:17:34.000 Scott, welcome back.
00:17:36.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:17:37.000 Thanks for having us on.
00:17:38.000 Yeah, I know, you know, we got together last time in July at the Believers Summit, and it was just such a great event.
00:17:45.000 That was the one...
00:17:46.000 I think a lot of people saw that President Trump was on, made the comments about challenging Christians to get out there and vote, that he needed their vote, and that got a lot of play, I know, on a lot of the different networks, which is great.
00:17:58.000 But, yeah, we were able to be at that conference, meet a lot of great people, a lot of great young Americans, and the results for us were great.
00:18:05.000 We had, if you can believe it, within a month after that conference, we had about 95 zip codes adopted for SaturateUSA, which accounts for about...
00:18:14.000 575,000 people that shared the gospel.
00:18:18.000 So great stuff.
00:18:20.000 Love you guys.
00:18:20.000 Love the Believer Summit that we had and excited to continue to work and partner with you guys on getting the word out about Jesus Christ and sharing the gospel with people in the United States.
00:18:33.000 So let's put up that chart that we had yesterday.
00:18:36.000 It's really interesting.
00:18:37.000 The New York Times wrote a piece.
00:18:40.000 saying that America's religious decline is actually curbed.
00:18:44.000 It's flatlined a little bit, and it's going up slightly, Scott.
00:18:49.000 As you can see in that chart, over the last couple decades, there was a steady march downward of people no longer identifying as religious or spiritual or Christian.
00:18:59.000 And so they are, it was marching down.
00:19:01.000 But in the last couple of years, post-COVID, We've seen it tick up a little bit.
00:19:06.000 So during COVID, it went down, and now we are seeing a slight resurgence, dare we call it a revival.
00:19:13.000 Do you see this in your work that you are doing at Saturate USA? And tell us some of the data and the stories that you're experiencing.
00:19:22.000 Well, definitely, Charlie.
00:19:23.000 You know, COVID was tough because obviously the government was keeping people from eating in churches, and so that's a very tough thing.
00:19:30.000 But since then, I think we're seeing a huge revival in people's values, wanting to get back to Christian values, understanding that that's where we need to be as a country.
00:19:39.000 And so we've seen huge numbers.
00:19:41.000 We've actually had, on a guesstimate, there's about 120. We've had 53 million adopted already over the last four to five years, and it's been incredible.
00:19:54.000 We see churches going out there every day, sharing the gospel in their neighborhoods.
00:19:59.000 And the whole premise of SaturateUSA is not to uplift some organization, but really to get the churches back out in the community.
00:20:07.000 And my personal opinion, as we've seen what's happened in the election here in November, was I think that we're seeing that people are realizing that we've got to get back to some truth.
00:20:18.000 We've got to get back, as Musk said, about caring.
00:20:21.000 We've got to get back to, you know...
00:20:25.000 The values that are there in our country, it's not just about how you feel.
00:20:30.000 There is a right and wrong, and we believe that's very clear in the gospel message of Jesus Christ.
00:20:36.000 And so we are seeing that uptick.
00:20:38.000 And the hope is, I think as a country, is as we get back to more values of biblical values, I think then...
00:20:46.000 Our values as it pertains to family, as it pertains to politics, it changes as well.
00:20:53.000 And I think the American people have made a pretty strong case for that in the last election.
00:20:58.000 As you look at the things that Trump, you know, went on and then the reaction and the numbers, as you see, polls with people really caring about their community and so forth.
00:21:10.000 And then I think with Christianity, a lot of times when things get tough, which we know, man, they were really tough there for four years under Biden, that people rely on prayer.
00:21:21.000 They rely on their neighbors.
00:21:22.000 They rely on help.
00:21:23.000 And that's where the church can jump in and just help people out so much.
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00:22:31.000 We must remind people the Constitution is incompatible with a faithless nation.
00:22:37.000 The Constitution and a faithless nation cannot coexist, and we need a belief in the eternal and the divine.
00:22:44.000 And I do want to mention this just because it's about this topic of faith.
00:22:48.000 That there has been a terrible situation for Christians, and I'll connect the dots here in a second, in the Democratic Republic of Congo, 70 believers were beheaded in church, and it received no attention at all whatsoever from the mainstream media or from any coverage.
00:23:06.000 That's right.
00:23:06.000 70 Christians were beheaded, and these were Islamic jihadists and are a threat to Judeo-Christian civilization.
00:23:13.000 We as Christians need to realize how good we have it here in America and how amazing the freedoms and liberties that we enjoy.
00:23:21.000 Scott, as you do this work at Saturate USA, remind our audience how all of them can take it upon themselves to spread the gospel and spread the word.
00:23:32.000 What does this look like in practice?
00:23:34.000 Pretty simple, Charlie.
00:23:36.000 What we ask people to do is get out there and either through individuals, through neighborhoods, through churches, to go out and spread the gospel through their neighborhoods.
00:23:47.000 Basically, we provide them a packet.
00:23:50.000 We call them saturate packets.
00:23:52.000 They have a DVD with online streaming capacities to look at the Jesus film in over 1,800 different languages.
00:24:04.000 It has Magdalena as well, which is a movie about her, and it's a great movie for inner city people.
00:24:10.000 And then the last one would be Jesus' film for children, which is pretty self-explanatory.
00:24:16.000 Those are provided on the DVD, but really are provided streaming-wise for free for people.
00:24:22.000 And then the last thing in there, there's a booklet.
00:24:25.000 It's called Do You Want to Know God Personally?
00:24:26.000 And it's a very simple way to lead people through accepting Christ as their Lord and Savior.
00:24:31.000 The last thing we ask then for the people to do is to put in local church information in the packet.
00:24:37.000 The goal is to get these people in their neighborhoods to be connecting with each other, with their neighbors, and then getting them into our local churches because that's where we need them to be.
00:24:47.000 And so the impact's been incredible.
00:24:50.000 We have, like I said, had over 53 million.
00:24:53.000 Homes adopted.
00:24:54.000 And people are going out with these packets with their church information in.
00:24:58.000 They're walking the streets.
00:25:00.000 They're praying for houses as they do it.
00:25:02.000 And they're putting these packets either in hand by knocking on the door, but most people leave them on the door and then follow up weeks later.
00:25:11.000 And we have seen church after church after church have huge impacts in sharing the gospel in their community.
00:25:19.000 Helping people in need and getting out there and doing that.
00:25:22.000 And, you know, it's pretty amazing.
00:25:23.000 You know, as I drive down my neighborhood, I don't know half the people in there, but I should.
00:25:29.000 I should be sharing with the people in my neighborhood.
00:25:31.000 I should be having community with them.
00:25:33.000 Because if I'm doing that, then the values I have, they're going to know them and I might be able to impact them in greater ways.
00:25:40.000 Not only...
00:25:41.000 With their faith, but with politics and all those kind of things.
00:25:44.000 And so it's really simple.
00:25:45.000 You go out to saturateusa.org.
00:25:47.000 You fill out a form that takes about 10 seconds.
00:25:50.000 And one of our representatives will call you and get you set up.
00:25:53.000 The key to this, Charlie, is everything is 100% free.
00:25:57.000 There's no charge.
00:25:59.000 We ship for free.
00:26:00.000 Usually it takes about two to three weeks to get the materials.
00:26:02.000 If we need to expedite that, we can.
00:26:04.000 But the whole process is free.
00:26:06.000 And the goal is to share the gospel with our neighbors.
00:26:10.000 And is it fair to say that people can spend 20 minutes on this, two hours on this, two days on this?
00:26:16.000 Talk about how people can fit it within their schedule and then recite the website one more time, please.
00:26:22.000 Yeah.
00:26:23.000 So, I mean, we have anywhere from, I know a couple in Denver, Colorado that has done, if you can imagine, over about 25,000 homes.
00:26:32.000 And they've been doing that for the last year.
00:26:34.000 They go out on Saturdays and spend an hour or two walking, doing this on their free time.
00:26:41.000 We've had churches that do, you know, weekend events where they get 100 to 150 volunteers and they'll do 15,000 in a Saturday.
00:26:49.000 But, you know, as you can think, you know, depending on...
00:26:53.000 Your neighborhood and how spread out homes are and how well walking.
00:26:58.000 I mean, high school kids can do phenomenal things.
00:27:01.000 I've seen youth groups do a couple thousand in an hour.
00:27:04.000 But it's very simple.
00:27:06.000 You basically do it in your time, when you want to do it, and in whatever way you want.
00:27:11.000 We're more than happy as an organization to tell you best practices or give you information and connect you with other churches that have done it.
00:27:19.000 But the key is, is it's done in your time and it can be done at your speed when you want to do it and so forth.
00:27:25.000 We are doing a special thing where we're really trying to do a big push for Easter.
00:27:29.000 We would love to get 2 million homes adopted in the next month or so, so that we could have a big push before Easter.
00:27:36.000 I think Easter is always a great time for the church to get people to come to church and to get involved in their community.
00:27:43.000 So that's one of the things.
00:27:44.000 But the website is saturateusa.org.
00:27:47.000 There's a two-minute video you can watch.
00:27:49.000 It explains the whole process to you in detail.
00:27:51.000 And then, like I said, there's a form you fill out.
00:27:54.000 It takes about 10 seconds.
00:27:55.000 And we'll have someone call you and get you guys going on it.
00:27:59.000 Thank you so much.
00:28:00.000 You're welcome back anytime.
00:28:01.000 Keep up the great work, and God bless you.
00:28:03.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:28:04.000 Have a great one.
00:28:05.000 Thanks.
00:28:05.000 Thank you.
00:28:06.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:28:07.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.