The Charlie Kirk Show - Is It Time for Obamagate?

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00:00:09.000 We talk about the explosive bombshell allegations made by DNI Tulsi Gabbard about what happened in the weeks between the 2016 election and the inauguration in 2017.

00:00:23.000 Did Obama instruct his Intel community to change and alter and manufacture intelligence to subvert the will of the American people and destroy our democracy?

00:00:36.000 Do we need to be careful to not get too excited and over our skis about the prospects of accountability and prosecutions?

00:00:43.000 Blake Neff joins us to discuss that.

00:00:45.000 Then we welcome Senator Rick Scott to talk about Senate confirmations.

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00:02:36.000 Everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:02:38.000 Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show in for you today.

00:02:42.000 Charlie Kirk is on assignment, but we are also joined by Blake Neff.

00:02:47.000 Blake, thanks for joining us this morning.

00:02:49.000 Howdy there, Andrew.

00:02:50.000 Blake, there's a ton of news.

00:02:51.000 I'm going to do a rapid-fire, real quick list of everything that's on my radar right now, and then we're going to get into what I believe is the bombshell story of the morning, which is, of course, DNI Tulsi Gabbard declassifying documents back from 2016, 2017, ahead of when President Trump took office.

00:03:10.000 We're going to go into detail there, and you've got a bit of a contrarian take.

00:03:13.000 I'll give you that.

00:03:14.000 And actually, it's why I wanted you on the show this morning, Blake.

00:03:17.000 I want us to have a clear-eyed view of the landscape so we don't get over our skis.

00:03:24.000 We don't overpromise and under deliver.

00:03:25.000 So we're going to get to that in just a second.

00:03:27.000 But here's just a smattering of some of the things that are going on in the country.

00:03:32.000 We've got borders art Tom Homan saying that we're going to flood the zone in sanctuary cities.

00:03:38.000 He's going to triple down in sanctuary cities.

00:03:41.000 And that, of course, comes after this egregious shooting in New York City where you had two Dominican nationals, illegals, that tried to rob and then shot an off-duty Customs and Border Patrol agent.

00:03:53.000 Just egregious.

00:03:55.000 We've got Scott Besant, who is zeroing in on the Fed, saying that he's not even sure what all these PhDs do there.

00:04:04.000 You've got President Trump calling for an end to cashless bail, which is amazing.

00:04:10.000 He's also calling for a restoration of the names Redskins and Indians, which we completely endorse.

00:04:16.000 It was peak woke that those names changed.

00:04:18.000 We've got pressure on the Senate to get President Trump's confirmations, the judges, all the down-the-line confirmations.

00:04:26.000 We got Obama admitting that Democrats have villainized young men.

00:04:29.000 We've got Kearney in Canada and King Charles in the UK basically blessing and legitimizing the Muslim takeover of those countries and so much more. 0.99

00:04:42.000 I mean, I'm probably missing something, but that, I mean, there's a lot going on today.

00:04:46.000 It's absolutely busy news day.

00:04:49.000 But Blake, let's dive into this.

00:04:51.000 And I'm going to give the quick overview of what we're dealing with.

00:04:56.000 This Tulsi Gabbard DNI story is truly explosive.

00:04:59.000 I believe Blake has a contrarian take, but essentially what happened here is DNA Tulsi Gabbard is alleging that after President Trump won the 2016 election, that President Barack Obama and his top officials, including James Clapper, John Brennan, James Comey, Susan Rice, they engaged in a quote-unquote treasonous conspiracy to undermine President Trump's presidency.

00:05:24.000 She claims that they manufactured intelligence.

00:05:28.000 They created a false intelligence report claiming that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump, despite earlier intelligence briefings and conclusions that said the opposite.

00:05:40.000 There was this now famous, infamous December 9th meeting where Obama directed his officials to produce a new intelligence assessment.

00:05:49.000 And this intelligence assessment was ultimately released on January 6th, and it contradicted the prior reports about Russian interference.

00:05:57.000 Then they leaked these claims to the Washington Post, NBC, New York Times, pushing the narrative that Russia interfered and influenced the election outcome.

00:06:08.000 Here's the kicker: they used the Steele dossier, according to Tulsi Gabbard, to build this new assessment.

00:06:15.000 Obviously, the Steele dossier has been completely debunked, is an act of fiction.

00:06:20.000 This, she says, resulted in a years-long coup.

00:06:24.000 Gabbard calls this effort to delegitimize President Trump's victory, leading to the Mueller investigation.

00:06:30.000 Ultimately, you could argue two impeachments, arrests of officials, heightened U.S.-Russian tensions.

00:06:37.000 I mean, the implications of what happened here are extraordinarily far-reaching.

00:06:43.000 And she calls it a years-long coup.

00:06:45.000 And now she has handed over the documents to the GOJ, and she's calling for prosecutions.

00:06:51.000 Now, Democrats, of course, are downplaying it.

00:06:53.000 Jim Hines, Senator Mark Warner have dismissed these claims as baseless.

00:06:59.000 So what does it all mean?

00:07:02.000 I tend to fall on the side of skeptical positivity that we could actually be seeing some accountability here.

00:07:11.000 But I'm skeptical because we've yet to really see accountability across our government and all the scandals and all the quote-unquote conspiracy theories that have been proven correct after the fact.

00:07:24.000 Blake, I want you to paint both a positive and a negative.

00:07:30.000 Give the audience what could result from this and why you think that there might be some speed bumps ahead.

00:07:37.000 Sure thing, Andrew.

00:07:38.000 So the basic narrative, as you laid out, is she's kind of taken stuff that I believe it's mostly things we already had seen before.

00:07:48.000 I can't recall which parts are exactly new that they're bringing out.

00:07:53.000 But what she's highlighting is that in the lead up to the 2016 election, we had intelligence briefings that said it's unlikely Russia can basically change the outcome of the election.

00:08:05.000 And then she says the Russia hoax stuff afterwards was basically an attempt to rewrite this to bring down the administration.

00:08:14.000 Now, I guess the positive version of it would be that if they bring this investigation, they can, well, first of all, it's a good excuse to sort of just delve into every, sorry, to delve into everything that they've ever ever that ever happened in the Obama administration.

00:08:31.000 You can bring up more CAA documents, more FBI documents.

00:08:34.000 Maybe you can find things that they missed before in the prior Inspector General investigations.

00:08:40.000 And you can get them on false statements.

00:08:42.000 I remember a few weeks ago, we had the story that they were looking at possible false statements by Brennan, by Comey, maybe they would bring before Congress.

00:08:51.000 And I mean, we've known Brennan 100% perjured himself to Congress long ago on things like drones spying on Americans and stuff.

00:09:00.000 So they've already lied to Congress about those things.

00:09:03.000 We might be out of the statute of limitations.

00:09:06.000 Just to pause really quick, what would so say this comes to nothing, right?

00:09:11.000 DNI Gabbard's accusations, allegations here come to nothing.

00:09:16.000 Fixate on the FISA lies, which we know, which is proven.

00:09:18.000 He perjured himself before Congress.

00:09:20.000 Don't even worry about the statute of limitations here.

00:09:23.000 What would accountability look like?

00:09:25.000 What's a reasonable expectation?

00:09:27.000 This guy goes to jail for 20 years, dies in prison, or gets a fine, gets his passport revoked.

00:09:32.000 Like, what, I mean, think in terms of what's realistic.

00:09:37.000 I mean, federal, let me look at what the federal perjury statute is, if we got him on that one.

00:09:43.000 So like if we check just the general perjury, it's five years looking here at the, you know, the U.S. Code.

00:09:51.000 So that might be like, that's kind of the maximum.

00:09:54.000 Most federal penalties have a pretty wide range there.

00:09:56.000 So in theory, yeah, you could indict these guys.

00:09:59.000 Although, I'll note, Tulsi's not saying perjury.

00:10:02.000 She's saying treasonous conspiracy.

00:10:04.000 Now, I would first of all caution people, that is very difficult.

00:10:09.000 Stephen Miller is saying seditious conspiracy.

00:10:12.000 Either way, I mean, treasonous conspiracy.

00:10:15.000 Treason is defined in the Constitution as specifically levying war against the United States or giving aid and comfort to its enemies.

00:10:23.000 I think it would be a big stretch to suddenly just stretch that to basically just saying, well, they're undermining the administration, and so that's treasonous.

00:10:34.000 Frankly, that is exactly why we wrote that provision in the Constitution that way, because the old English governments love to use the law that way, and the founders didn't care for that.

00:10:44.000 I think it would be a big reach to try to bring a case like that.

00:10:49.000 And frankly, I just don't think it would work.

00:10:53.000 And I think it's also important to flag political difficulties to this.

00:10:56.000 I mean, they're definitely highlighting Obama here.

00:10:59.000 Obviously, President Trump has his differences with President Obama, but I think it's worth reminding people, broadly speaking, Obama's pretty popular with most Americans.

00:11:07.000 And I think it could end up being a distraction if they're trying to drag Obama into court for his actions at the very end of his presidency because they're mad about how they handled an election that Trump won a decade ago.

00:11:21.000 So that's kind of my gut feeling.

00:11:23.000 We can kind of debate this back and forth.

00:11:24.000 Yeah, I mean, I just have a wildly different emotional, visceral take from this.

00:11:31.000 We have to guard against our emotions and think rationally, prudently.

00:11:34.000 So, Blake, and I actually really appreciate sometimes I tend to be a gas pedal and you could be my break sort of thing.

00:11:42.000 And so I fully appreciate where you're coming from, and I want to see this thing clear-eyed.

00:11:48.000 However, I think to one critical, you know, Pandora's box getting ripped open, right?

00:11:55.000 And nobody wants to live in a country constantly convulsed by legal infighting amongst, you know, where we're trying to throw people in prison all the time.

00:12:05.000 This is not the America you or I grew up in.

00:12:06.000 We don't want that to be the case.

00:12:08.000 But here's the problem.

00:12:11.000 They tried to throw President Trump in prison for 700 years.

00:12:15.000 They tried to bankrupt him.

00:12:16.000 They impeached him twice.

00:12:18.000 They raided his home.

00:12:20.000 Hold on.

00:12:21.000 Who's they, though?

00:12:22.000 Because Obama didn't do that.

00:12:24.000 That's true.

00:12:25.000 But Obama started a lot of the precedent if the allegations are proven true that he actually directed this based on and directed the intel community to give him a different assessment.

00:12:36.000 Apparently hours before the original assessment was about to be published, they pulled it based on new direction.

00:12:44.000 The new direction, apparently, is directly tied to Obama.

00:12:47.000 Now, we don't even have to go after Obama, okay?

00:12:51.000 There is James Clapper, Brennan, there's Comey, there's Susan Rice, there's put up the shady bunch clip, right?

00:12:59.000 Where they've got the image here.

00:13:01.000 I mean, President Trump's putting this out, right?

00:13:04.000 Valerie Jarrett, there was a lot of people in this meeting.

00:13:07.000 And one of the reasons that this is infuriating, I think, to so many people and why we want to see actual accountability is, again, because what they did to President Trump and the egregiousness of their actions, the fact that there was no line, the fact that there was no prudence in the way that they went about things.

00:13:28.000 And they lost.

00:13:29.000 And so that should also be a lesson to us, that we don't want to get over our skis and make allegations that ultimately backfire on us.

00:13:29.000 They lost bad.

00:13:38.000 So I want to guard against that.

00:13:41.000 But I do believe that there has to be actionable offenses here because of what ultimately happened.

00:13:46.000 The Russia, Russia, Russia narrative spread like wildfire on purpose because they leaked it.

00:13:52.000 They used the steel dossier in order to do it, which has been completely discredited, which was paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign as compromise, as not even compromised, as sort of like ginning up fake stories.

00:14:05.000 And it turned out to be completely and utterly false.

00:14:09.000 And yet our nation was dragged into the mud for a very, very long time as a result.

00:14:15.000 All right, go ahead, Blake.

00:14:16.000 Yeah, the floor is yours.

00:14:18.000 Yeah, so we were discussing there just, you know, whether this is ultimately like worthwhile.

00:14:24.000 I would, I guess I always want to advise caution on these things.

00:14:27.000 First of all, this is delving back a long time.

00:14:30.000 A decade is a long time ago in U.S. politics.

00:14:35.000 You know, it'd be like if, oh, man, it would be like if the Obama administration was investigating stuff that happened at the end of the Clinton administration, or if you were suddenly, you know, if you were suddenly dredging up stuff from 1992 after 9-11.

00:14:51.000 But Blake, because President Trump won, then he was not, then Biden took over, and now he's back again.

00:14:57.000 It feels like one cohesive storyline.

00:15:00.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:15:00.000 Like it's all very connected.

00:15:03.000 This is real life.

00:15:04.000 It's not a Netflix show.

00:15:05.000 Like, okay, storylines.

00:15:07.000 But in the end, this is litigating something where they're mad about a failed, remember, a failed effort to maybe undo the 2017 election.

00:15:19.000 This is my pushback.

00:15:20.000 It didn't fail because it dragged the country into the mud.

00:15:23.000 It completely derailed, at least in part, President Trump's first term.

00:15:28.000 But dragging a country into the mud, dragging a country into a political dispute is not a crime.

00:15:34.000 It is not.

00:15:35.000 When it leads to special counsels like Robert Mueller, when it leads to- did Mueller indict Trump?

00:15:43.000 Nope, he didn't, thankfully, because there was no there there.

00:15:47.000 But this is the point: is that it was clear from the Intel assessment originally that there was no there there.

00:15:54.000 And yet they created a narrative to say there was a there there.

00:15:57.000 I want to flag that too.

00:15:58.000 So, this is another thing where I could, I think they could get in trouble if they chase this too hard.

00:16:03.000 Yeah, so again, if you get false statements on Brennan, like I kind of hate Brennan, I kind of hate Clapper.

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00:16:15.000 But yes.

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00:17:26.000 All right, Blake, you're saying we should be a little bit more cautious.

00:17:29.000 I actually agree with you.

00:17:31.000 I agree with caution.

00:17:34.000 I am still, I think, channeling a lot of the emotions that our base and our audience is feeling because, yes, it was 2016, 2017, and we're all the way in 2025 now.

00:17:44.000 But this all feels like yesterday to all of us.

00:17:47.000 And we lived through what was so unprecedented.

00:17:52.000 And it feels like these are the people responsible for dragging the nation through such a traumatic and unnecessary experience that resulted in Robert Moeller that probably led to two impeachments.

00:18:05.000 You could make the argument at least.

00:18:07.000 Maybe not a direct line, but it certainly is part of it.

00:18:10.000 And we've got the DNI of saying this is a years-long coup and treasonous conspiracy.

00:18:16.000 So you're saying be cautious.

00:18:18.000 I appreciate it.

00:18:19.000 And make your point because I think it's important.

00:18:21.000 Well, so one thing I really want to highlight is there's a bit of a slate of hand going on with what Tulsi Gabbard says in her post, because let me bring it up here.

00:18:34.000 So when she's summarizing her stuff on X, this is where she posted it last Friday.

00:18:40.000 The stuff she's highlighting before the election, where she's using this to argue that they changed course.

00:18:46.000 So for example, on September 9th, there's a presidential daily briefing and it says, we agree Russia probably is not and will not be trying to influence the election by using cyber means to manipulate computer-enabled election infrastructure.

00:19:04.000 And similarly, on December 7th, they have these talking points from James Clapper.

00:19:11.000 We assess that foreign adversaries did not use cyber attacks on election infrastructure to alter the U.S. presidential election outcome this year.

00:19:20.000 We have no evidence of cyber manipulation of election infrastructure intended to alter results.

00:19:27.000 So that's what she's flagging as the evidence of what they really believed was going on.

00:19:32.000 And then she says that on December 8th, they suddenly pivoted to this new, they're handling all their, they're looking at the evidence again.

00:19:41.000 And then they put out in early January, they put out new talking points that basically amount to, let's see, do I have it here?

00:19:51.000 Like they were prepared to produce an assessment per the president's request.

00:19:56.000 And then basically what they said is that they're looking like Russia, you know, Russia interfered in the election.

00:20:01.000 They did the Russia hack in order to help President Trump.

00:20:04.000 When they pivot to this, they actually never say Russia, we've changed our mind, Russia changed election results.

00:20:11.000 You can go and look at the articles.

00:20:12.000 They explicitly say Russia didn't do that.

00:20:15.000 What they say is they went into the big picture supposed Russian, the Russian collusion scandal, which was that Russia wanted Trump to win, so they did other stuff, or that Russia had contacts with the Trump administration.

00:20:31.000 And so that's how we got the entrapment of General Flynn.

00:20:34.000 That's how we got the whole Russia collusion thing.

00:20:38.000 That's what Russia collusion meant, the bogus idea that the Trump campaign was literally actively working with the Russians.

00:20:46.000 That was total nonsense.

00:20:47.000 That was total woo-woo. 0.94

00:20:49.000 That was total BS.

00:20:51.000 But that is not what is being said in these early memos that are being treated as the smoking gun.

00:20:56.000 They're kind of taking two things that are doing it.

00:20:59.000 And I agree with you.

00:21:00.000 I agree with you.

00:21:01.000 And they might have been so crafty in this, Blake, that they'll end up getting away with it, right?

00:21:06.000 But the way that I see it is that it's two sides of the same coin.

00:21:10.000 They're not going to come out and instantly in an Intel assessment and say Trump coordinated with Russia.

00:21:17.000 That would have been, I think, a misstep on their part.

00:21:21.000 And I think they probably knew that.

00:21:22.000 The smarter play was to say Russia was certainly doing this. 0.94

00:21:26.000 And so I see it as a conspiracy because they're already looking at the Russian steel dossier here.

00:21:35.000 They're taking pieces of it, leaking the narrative to the press and seeding it.

00:21:39.000 And then the rest of the work is done by the media and by talking heads on TV.

00:21:43.000 And next thing you know, Trump is colluding with Russia.

00:21:46.000 Okay, so Russia is certainly trying to collude or is trying to influence the U.S., according to their fake assessment, to alter the election results, which they weren't.

00:21:56.000 So now, so the Intel community does their part, and it's very easy for the mind to then fill in the blank that Trump is colluding with the Russians to do this.

00:22:05.000 So my point is, is that, yeah, maybe this, maybe, maybe they were being a little cute and they were being, I don't know, they were holding back, going all the way to saying Trump had something to do with it.

00:22:16.000 But ultimately, that's exactly what the story became.

00:22:19.000 Why did it become that?

00:22:21.000 It's because they had seeded the ground.

00:22:23.000 They had absolutely inserted into the zeitgeist that Trump and Russia together in harmony, and that ended up derailing and completely distracting President Trump.

00:22:34.000 You had Hillary Clinton calling him an illegitimate president for years.

00:22:38.000 I don't know if she's still saying she probably is.

00:22:40.000 Blake, I think it's important if we just got to hear Tulsi in her own words here.

00:22:44.000 So let's go ahead and play cut 252, Tulsi Gabbard.

00:22:48.000 Over 100 documents that we released on Friday really detail and provide evidence of how this treasonous conspiracy was directed by President Obama just weeks before he was due to leave office, after President Trump had already gotten elected.

00:23:07.000 This is not a Democrat or Republican issue.

00:23:10.000 This is an issue that is so serious it should concern every single American because it has to do with the integrity of our Democratic Republic.

00:23:18.000 Treasonous conspiracy.

00:23:20.000 I mean, she's coming out guns ablazing. 1.00

00:23:23.000 And listen, again, I want to reiterate, I appreciate the fact that you're urging caution here because I tend to agree with you.

00:23:31.000 We're not going to get everything we want.

00:23:32.000 And there is a segment of the base that's not going to be happy until we see, you know, Anthony Fauci and Brennan, like, you know, strung up from their entrails or something like that.

00:23:41.000 I mean, so it's like, I'm not saying that that's what's going to happen.

00:23:44.000 You're saying, hey, the statute, maybe it's a five-year prison sentence.

00:23:47.000 I think we should push to get some accountability here because I do think what they did was completely out of bounds.

00:23:53.000 I think it was completely out of line.

00:23:55.000 And it ended up having these tremendous downstream effects.

00:23:58.000 And there needs to be accountability on our IC.

00:24:00.000 There just simply has to be.

00:24:02.000 Blake.

00:24:02.000 Well, it's just, I think, first of all, I think we should appreciate that they, we saw the outcome of attempting to just basically gin up ways to put your political opposition in prison.

00:24:15.000 And it was, Donald Trump got elected again last November.

00:24:19.000 They made him a lot more powerful.

00:24:20.000 They basically guaranteed he would be the nominee.

00:24:22.000 And it exploded in their faces.

00:24:24.000 And he, you know, he won the popular vote, won more states than ever before.

00:24:28.000 So there's clearly like some potential political downsides to this sort of thing.

00:24:34.000 But I think that that's partly because President Trump is just a singular, unique political phenomenon that wouldn't be cowed by this and didn't stop fighting.

00:24:42.000 Any other era, I mean, if you just go back a few different iterations of Republican presidential nominees, they would not have done this.

00:24:49.000 Trump is singular in that.

00:24:51.000 And so just because he was able to overcome all of this, everything that was thrown at him is, I think, more of a testament to him and his willpower and his courage than it is to sort of saying, hey, this backfired because it's a dumb thing to do.

00:25:06.000 It very well could have been a very smart thing to do.

00:25:09.000 It just didn't work out for him this time.

00:25:11.000 So again, I would encourage everyone to kind of pause.

00:25:14.000 And let's look at what we're saying here.

00:25:16.000 It was a treasonous conspiracy because we were distracted by this in 2017, 2018.

00:25:23.000 Getting distracted is not a crime.

00:25:25.000 It's actually, it's the sort of, it's a very vague, like, frankly, it almost sounds kind of sinister.

00:25:31.000 And I think you'll have trouble selling that to the American public that, you know, these people committed a treasonous conspiracy because like people were watching it on the news and they got really irritated by it.

00:25:45.000 Yes.

00:25:45.000 Or like because we got a special counsel.

00:25:47.000 Well, Obama didn't appoint the special counsel.

00:25:49.000 Comey didn't appoint the special counsel.

00:25:51.000 The Trump administration appointed the special counsel.

00:25:54.000 This is Rod Rosenstein as directed by Jeff Sessions.

00:25:59.000 And I think we can agree that was a mistake, but it wasn't something that they did.

00:26:03.000 And similarly, it happened because of the firing of Comey, which they didn't do.

00:26:08.000 President Trump did that.

00:26:10.000 And it's muddling things.

00:26:12.000 Those are good pushbacks.

00:26:13.000 Those are good pushbacks, but it wasn't just distraction.

00:26:15.000 It was completely undermining the legitimacy of the 45th president of the United States.

00:26:20.000 But it's good pushback, Blake.

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00:27:27.000 We are waiting, Senator Rick Scott, to join us.

00:27:30.000 We're going to be talking about Senate appointments with Senator Scott.

00:27:36.000 I want to play just a little bit more tape of Tulsi and what she's alleging. 0.98

00:27:41.000 Let's go ahead and play cut 254.

00:27:45.000 The seriousness of, again, the implications and the consequences of these actions that were taken demand accountability.

00:27:53.000 The American people not only deserve the truth and accountability, when we look at the future of our country as a Democratic republic and the American people's ability to have faith that when they go and cast a vote at the ballot box, that the will of the people will be respected by those in government, whether they be Democrats or Republicans.

00:28:12.000 This is literally what is at stake here.

00:28:14.000 So we are referring all of our documents to the Department of Justice for the purpose of accountability and action.

00:28:23.000 There must be accountability.

00:28:25.000 The truth must be shown to the American people in order to ensure that there is this faith and trust and integrity in our Democratic Republic for the sake of the future of our country.

00:28:37.000 There is DNI Tulsi Gabbard calling for accountability.

00:28:41.000 A sentiment I know many of you in the audience feel.

00:28:43.000 I personally feel it.

00:28:44.000 Gonna wait for all the facts to come out.

00:28:46.000 We don't want to get over our skis or ahead of ourselves.

00:28:48.000 Here to help make sense of that, and we're also gonna get into Senate confirmations is Senator Rick Scott from the great state of Florida, a great friend of the show and a great patriot.

00:28:58.000 Senator, welcome to the show.

00:29:00.000 Thanks for your time this morning.

00:29:02.000 Really quickly, just reflect on the allegations that are coming out of DNI, Tulsi Gabbard.

00:29:08.000 I know you lived through this firsthand, just like the rest of us.

00:29:12.000 What's your take on what's happening?

00:29:15.000 First off, it makes sense.

00:29:16.000 The first thing you always think about in life, okay, does this make sense, right?

00:29:19.000 I think what Tulsi said made a lot of sense.

00:29:22.000 And so I hope my goal is we get to the bottom of it and let's find out.

00:29:25.000 But it never made sense, this Russian hoax. 0.93

00:29:28.000 It always seemed like it was all fabrication to hurt Trump and hurt Republicans.

00:29:33.000 And so I'm glad Tulsi is doing her job in bringing this out.

00:29:36.000 And I hope we have a thorough investigation.

00:29:38.000 Let's get the facts out.

00:29:40.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0.61

00:29:41.000 And, you know, President Trump is like a dog with a bone on this. 0.90

00:29:45.000 His truth social was going off, calling him the shady bunch. 0.64

00:29:48.000 No one's above the law with clips of Obama saying that.

00:29:52.000 You know, it's going to be a fascinating next couple of days.

00:29:55.000 I know she's saying that there's going to be further announcements in the coming days.

00:29:58.000 And I know you guys are going to be all over that.

00:30:00.000 Let's pivot really quick here, Senator.

00:30:03.000 You know, President Trump had a truth out, and he said, hopefully the very talented John Thune, fresh off our many victories over the past two weeks and indeed six months, will cancel August recess and long weekends in order to get my incredible nominees confirmed.

00:30:22.000 We need them badly signed, DJT.

00:30:26.000 Senator, for the uninitiated, the unaware, what's the August recess?

00:30:32.000 What are these long weekends?

00:30:33.000 This feels like a friendly jab at Senate Leader Thune.

00:30:38.000 Well, first off, here's what's happened.

00:30:40.000 The Democrats have decided they're going to slow down all confirmation on the Senate floor of Trump nominees.

00:30:47.000 What that means is by doing that, they can only allow us to do a vote on a nominee every two hours.

00:30:54.000 Okay.

00:30:54.000 So that way you would think, well, how many hours?

00:30:56.000 There's 24 hours in a day, right?

00:30:58.000 Well, no, We don't work that many days.

00:31:01.000 I mean, our first vote on Mondays is at 5.30.

00:31:03.000 I was shocked.

00:31:04.000 I'm a business guy.

00:31:04.000 I mean, I'm a guy.

00:31:05.000 I worked 80 hours a week my whole life.

00:31:07.000 So we come in, we start at 5.30 on Mondays, p.m., not a.m.

00:31:11.000 Okay.

00:31:12.000 And then we generally finish on 145 on Thursdays.

00:31:16.000 So, and we don't do numbers.

00:31:17.000 We don't start early in the morning.

00:31:20.000 So number one is we can work five days a week.

00:31:22.000 We can work weekends and we can work longer hours.

00:31:25.000 That would be the number one.

00:31:27.000 Number two is we're this year we're scheduled.

00:31:30.000 I think it's 40 weeks out of the 52 weeks to be in DC.

00:31:34.000 Now, in theory, the other 12 weeks are going to be at home working, but some people will take vacations.

00:31:39.000 So in August, we're typically off all of August.

00:31:43.000 We usually have a four, that's our biggest break.

00:31:45.000 It's a four-week break.

00:31:47.000 That's where people go either go on vacation, they travel at home and visit the constituents or travel around the world, like going to other countries to meet with the political and military leaders.

00:31:57.000 So what the president is saying is, get my nominees done.

00:32:01.000 You can work five days a week.

00:32:02.000 You can work weekends or you can cancel your recess.

00:32:06.000 I agree with him.

00:32:07.000 Let's get to work.

00:32:08.000 That's my slow.

00:32:09.000 Andrew, that was my slogan when I ran in 2010.

00:32:11.000 Let's get to work.

00:32:12.000 That's what I've always believed.

00:32:13.000 I believe in working.

00:32:15.000 That's great.

00:32:15.000 I mean, that's fantastic.

00:32:17.000 So we know that you're a hard worker.

00:32:19.000 We know that you're a successful businessman because of that, what you did in Florida.

00:32:22.000 But also, explain that, I mean, because I think for the general public, we looked at, okay, we got Gabbard and Hegseth and Marco Rubio.

00:32:31.000 We got all these guys confirmed.

00:32:32.000 We got the cabinet appointed much quicker than we did in Trump 1.0.

00:32:37.000 What kind of positions do we need to be looking to fill with these Senate confirmations? 0.56

00:32:41.000 Explain kind of tier one, tier two, tier three.

00:32:44.000 Well, for all the agencies, we have undersecretaries for state, for defense.

00:32:50.000 We have undersecretaries that have to be confirmed.

00:32:53.000 That's number one.

00:32:55.000 Number two is we have ambassadors that have to be confirmed.

00:32:59.000 Number three is we have judges that have to be confirmed.

00:33:01.000 Number four, we have U.S. attorneys that have to be confirmed.

00:33:04.000 Next, we have U.S. Marshals that have to be confirmed.

00:33:07.000 So I think, Andrew, this might be off a little bit, but I think we have about 900 people that need to be confirmed.

00:33:13.000 Now we have, they first go through a committee.

00:33:15.000 So we have somewhere between 150, 160 people that have already gone through the committee process.

00:33:21.000 And so they're waiting for the confirmation on the Senate floor.

00:33:24.000 Historically, all right, before Trump, you know, the you know, the Democrats would allow you to do a batch of them because it's some of these people have come through with unanimous consent out of a committee and things like that.

00:33:38.000 There's no controversy in them.

00:33:40.000 It's not like it's Supreme Court judge, things like that.

00:33:43.000 So, but the Democrats, they're sitting here.

00:33:45.000 Number one, they're the ones slowing this down, but we've got to, you know, we've got to, we've got to sticker, we got it, we've got to start coming in earlier, working later, working weekends.

00:33:55.000 If we have to cancel recess, cancel recess.

00:33:58.000 I think, you know, I speak for our audience, Senator, that we agree the Senate schedule is an abomination.

00:34:07.000 Can Leader Thune, can he simply just change the rules?

00:34:11.000 Like, how much power does he have to cancel August recess or to extend to a five-day work week so you're not leaving at Thursday, you know, at four o'clock?

00:34:20.000 So the leader of the Senate right now, majority leaders as John Thune, he can he decides our schedule.

00:34:27.000 Now, here's his limitation: senators have to stay here.

00:34:31.000 So he can say we're going to be here.

00:34:33.000 And people say, well, I'm not going to show up, then there's nothing he can do about it.

00:34:37.000 So number one, you know, we have to say we're going to stay here.

00:34:40.000 And number two, people have to stay.

00:34:43.000 They have to say, I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to, I'm not going to leave on Thursday at 1:45 after the, you know, after that vote.

00:34:50.000 I'm willing to stay on Fridays and Saturdays and Sundays and recess, whatever it is.

00:34:55.000 So it takes both.

00:34:56.000 It takes John Thune to say it and takes senators to show up.

00:34:59.000 Republican senators.

00:35:00.000 Yeah, I was going to say, if all the Democrats basically say, hey, we're not going to show up, but we get 53 Republicans, is that enough to keep going on?

00:35:09.000 If they just don't want to show up, that's their own problem, right?

00:35:11.000 Yeah, we can, if we, if, if, yeah, the only thing though, the old, yeah, so the value of the Democrats showing up is that maybe they'll, maybe at some point, they'll say, hey, we'll let these go through quicker.

00:35:25.000 So we won't make a two-hour wait for each one.

00:35:28.000 Yeah.

00:35:28.000 You do impact.

00:35:30.000 For the audience edification here, I mean, we need tons of these undersecretaries confirmed. 0.99

00:35:36.000 It's a huge barrier to actually getting the Trump mandate and the agenda off the ground.

00:35:41.000 And people don't realize that.

00:35:42.000 Yes, we've got the top cabinet officials in place and that's huge and they're setting the tone.

00:35:49.000 But if they don't have people below them to execute on this agenda, it's going to be a massive, massive impediment to actually getting the agenda.

00:36:00.000 And judges and U.S. attorneys and U.S. marshals, ambassadors.

00:36:08.000 Andrew, I think it's 100, and I'd have to look at the list.

00:36:10.000 I think it's at least 150, might be 160 people we're waiting for right now.

00:36:14.000 My goodness.

00:36:15.000 So the ball is in Leader Thun's court right now.

00:36:18.000 The eyes of the nation, especially President Trump supporters, are on you, sir.

00:36:23.000 Please, please, please.

00:36:26.000 President Trump is giving friendly jabs right now.

00:36:29.000 We're giving friendly jabs.

00:36:30.000 Let's get the job done.

00:36:32.000 We don't want to have to turn up the heat, but we will.

00:36:34.000 This is a huge, huge issue that, you know, it's not grabbing headlines like, you know, Tulsi Gabbard and ObamaGate and things like that.

00:36:43.000 It is massively important to the work of the country actually getting done.

00:36:47.000 Real quick, sir, Senator, real quick, breaking news.

00:36:52.000 Jerome Powell has just been referred to the DOJ for criminal charges for perjury related to his $2.5 billion renovation of the Federal Reserve building.

00:37:01.000 Rep Luna is alleging that Powell falsely downplayed the project's $600 million cost increase and denied the existence of luxury features like a VIP dining room and rooftop garden.

00:37:11.000 So we're going to watch that.

00:37:15.000 Andrew, that 2.5 trade is more than it takes to build a football stadium.

00:37:20.000 That's a renovation.

00:37:22.000 Yeah.

00:37:22.000 Okay.

00:37:22.000 More than a football station.

00:37:24.000 Yeah.

00:37:24.000 No, I agree.

00:37:28.000 I think it's an interesting one because we're talking about allegations of perjury on the cost of a billion.

00:37:35.000 But by the way, I'm not saying I'm against it in theory because in principle, the budget overruns, you've got this, and I know this hits close to home, Senator.

00:37:44.000 You've got Democrats in California, what was it supposed to be $30 billion?

00:37:48.000 Now they're saying it's $133 billion for this high-speed rail.

00:37:52.000 President Trump has now pulled the federal funding from that.

00:37:55.000 I know in Florida, you rejected such a similar project.

00:37:59.000 My first month in office, I mean, I had the same opportunity my first month in office.

00:38:04.000 Obama wanted me to build a high-speed train that had to stop 15 times between Orlando and Tampa.

00:38:09.000 Okay.

00:38:10.000 It was going to cost the state at least a trillion dollars and lose $100 billion a year.

00:38:14.000 Now, do you think that was something I would do as a business guy?

00:38:17.000 But climate change, Senator.

00:38:19.000 But climate change.

00:38:20.000 Yeah, that's.

00:38:21.000 I mean, that's...

00:38:21.000 Powell guy did it.

00:38:23.000 Yeah, I mean, absolutely.

00:38:24.000 Well, I mean, I'm glad they pulled the funding.

00:38:26.000 So when it comes to Powell, it's like, listen, I know we want him to get out.

00:38:29.000 He's not lowering rates when the rest of the world is lowering rates and it's having a massive financial impact on our debt, even.

00:38:36.000 So I understand the impetus here.

00:38:38.000 I just want to make sure that if we're going to criminalize budget overruns in D.C., I mean, the whole town's going to be locked up.

00:38:48.000 So I just want to caution the audience a little bit in that.

00:38:51.000 Final words, Senator.

00:38:52.000 What are our marching orders?

00:38:53.000 What do we need to get done in the next week?

00:38:55.000 What do they need to keep their eyes on 30 seconds?

00:38:58.000 Right now, what we're going to be doing is we're starting the appropriations process.

00:39:01.000 So be very, have high expectations that we're heading towards a balanced budget.

00:39:06.000 Trump wants a balanced budget.

00:39:07.000 We've got to balance the budget or we'll not see lower interest rates.

00:39:10.000 We'll not see inflation under control.

00:39:11.000 That's the biggest issue we got to deal with right now.

00:39:13.000 Amen.

00:39:14.000 The affordability crisis is massive.

00:39:18.000 And Senator, just to make sure we keep our eyes on the prize here, when we talk to young people, it's all about they can't own homes, they can't start families. 1.00

00:39:25.000 We need to address that.

00:39:27.000 Thank you for your time, Senator.

00:39:29.000 We're always honored to have you.

00:39:30.000 Thank you so much.

00:39:31.000 Andrew, nice seeing you.

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00:40:35.000 If I became president in two years from now, or four years from now, or three years from now, I would pick up the phone and call President El Salvador and say, you either send them back or I'm going to invade. 0.51

00:40:49.000 Crime what they're doing. 0.66

00:40:51.000 He's dictator Thug.

00:40:53.000 Bukely or Drum.

00:40:54.000 Both.

00:40:55.000 You know, I wanted these clips, and the whole team's like, it's just taking forever to edit out all the F-words.

00:41:01.000 This guy is a.

00:41:02.000 It sounds like we don't have like a working video.

00:41:05.000 Like it's all like bugged out because he's swearing so much.

00:41:07.000 We just have to.

00:41:08.000 We actually should have like a beep sounding.

00:41:10.000 I think when they're really just cursing, like I agree, let's work the beeps to really like signal that.

00:41:16.000 Let's work the beeps in the next time we get a clip from Hunter Biden.

00:41:20.000 283.

00:41:21.000 He continues.

00:41:22.000 Be like all these Democrats say, you have to talk about and realize that people are really upset about illegal immigration.

00:41:30.000 You.

00:41:30.000 How do you think your hotel room gets cleaned?

00:41:32.000 How do you think you got food on your table?

00:41:35.000 Who do you think washes your dishes? 1.00

00:41:37.000 Who do you think does your garden? 1.00

00:41:39.000 Who do you think is here by the sheer just grit and will that they figured out a way to get here because they thought that they could give themselves and their family a better chance?

00:41:52.000 And he's somehow convinced all of us that these people are criminals.

00:41:58.000 So Hunter Biden is the pure embodiment of this elite class of Americans that have never worked an honest day in their lives.

00:42:08.000 And they expect that we can just throw away the entire country, ignore our immigration laws, ignore the border, ignore all the fentanyl that comes in, ignore all the crime, ignores the fact that a CBP officer was just shot in an attempted robbery in New York City when he was off duty by a foreign national from the Dominican Republic.

00:42:28.000 These guys couldn't care less about you.

00:42:30.000 They couldn't care less about what happens to your schools, your DMVs, your hospitals.

00:42:35.000 They couldn't care less.

00:42:36.000 And he is a complete embodiment of the grotesque, corrupt, perverted nature of the DC and New York City ruling elite that have thrown this country into such turmoil and thrown you down the river.

00:42:49.000 Blake, what's your take?

00:42:51.000 I think it's funny how he just trashes the Democratic Party.

00:42:54.000 Like, James Clapper hasn't won anything in ages.

00:42:58.000 Dave Laxeron's terrible.

00:43:00.000 Anita Don's terrible. 0.99

00:43:01.000 Jake Tapper is terrible.

00:43:03.000 I don't know if we have that one ready yet, but if we don't, like, it's pretty funny.

00:43:06.000 I had a friend actually message.

00:43:08.000 He sent me the clip and then he said, Vance Biden 2028, which certainly is a funny visual image.

00:43:15.000 Not actually, of course.

00:43:17.000 I think we've had enough cocaine in the White House for a while.

00:43:21.000 So here's actually his quote: He says, F him and everybody around him.

00:43:26.000 George Clooney is not effing an actor.

00:43:30.000 He's a brand.

00:43:31.000 James Carville hasn't won a race in 40 effing years.

00:43:35.000 David Axelrod had one success in his political life, and that was Barack Obama, and that was because of Barack Obama.

00:43:40.000 The Pod Save America guys were junior effing speech writers on Barack Obama's Senate staff who have been dining out on the relationships with him, making millions.

00:43:49.000 Anita Dunn has made 40 to 50 million off the Democrat Party.

00:43:53.000 What influence does Jake Tapper have over anything?

00:43:56.000 He has the smallest audience on cable news.

00:43:59.000 I mean, tough to argue with any of those points, Blake.

00:44:03.000 Yeah, that would be a good point.

00:44:05.000 If that was a speech someone delivered like at a turning point that would bring the house down, it would be amazing.

00:44:12.000 Maybe not so many F-words, okay, for the kids. 0.96

00:44:15.000 But I mean, he is a foul-mouthed, like bitter drug addict, and he sounds like one. 0.98

00:44:23.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:44:25.000 What else are you going to say?

00:44:26.000 Okay, one other thing.

00:44:27.000 I want to get this clip.

00:44:28.000 Obama is trying to take ownership of the fact that he has that they villainized and belittled young men.

00:44:41.000 That they made a mistake in this.

00:44:42.000 255.

00:44:44.000 As quote-unquote progressives, Democrats, progressive parents, enlightened ones, we've made that mistake sometimes in terms of our rhetoric, where it's like we're constantly talking about, you know, what's wrong with the boys instead of what's right with them.

00:45:03.000 We rightly have tried to invest in girls to make sure that there's a level playing field and then they're not barred from opportunities. 1.00

00:45:15.000 But we haven't been as willing, I think, to be intentional about investing in the boys, and that's been a mistake.

00:45:23.000 Oh, he's right.

00:45:26.000 And thanks to their misstep, you might have delivered the presidency for a second time to President Trump because we actually gave a message of hope and opportunity to young men that have been villainized by the Democrat Party for far too long.

00:45:40.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:45:42.000 We'll talk to you soon.

00:45:45.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - July 21, 2025

Is It Time for Obamagate?

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