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00:00:09.000We talk about the explosive bombshell allegations made by DNI Tulsi Gabbard about what happened in the weeks between the 2016 election and the inauguration in 2017.
00:00:23.000Did Obama instruct his Intel community to change and alter and manufacture intelligence to subvert the will of the American people and destroy our democracy?
00:00:36.000Do we need to be careful to not get too excited and over our skis about the prospects of accountability and prosecutions?
00:00:51.000What can leader Thune do to correct course we are behind?
00:00:56.000And then finally, we talk about Hunter Biden, the vulgar, bitter drug addict and president's son who's a national embarrassment, but he does have a few good one-liners.
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00:02:51.000I'm going to do a rapid-fire, real quick list of everything that's on my radar right now, and then we're going to get into what I believe is the bombshell story of the morning, which is, of course, DNI Tulsi Gabbard declassifying documents back from 2016, 2017, ahead of when President Trump took office.
00:03:10.000We're going to go into detail there, and you've got a bit of a contrarian take.
00:03:14.000And actually, it's why I wanted you on the show this morning, Blake.
00:03:17.000I want us to have a clear-eyed view of the landscape so we don't get over our skis.
00:03:24.000We don't overpromise and under deliver.
00:03:25.000So we're going to get to that in just a second.
00:03:27.000But here's just a smattering of some of the things that are going on in the country.
00:03:32.000We've got borders art Tom Homan saying that we're going to flood the zone in sanctuary cities.
00:03:38.000He's going to triple down in sanctuary cities.
00:03:41.000And that, of course, comes after this egregious shooting in New York City where you had two Dominican nationals, illegals, that tried to rob and then shot an off-duty Customs and Border Patrol agent.
00:03:55.000We've got Scott Besant, who is zeroing in on the Fed, saying that he's not even sure what all these PhDs do there.
00:04:04.000You've got President Trump calling for an end to cashless bail, which is amazing.
00:04:10.000He's also calling for a restoration of the names Redskins and Indians, which we completely endorse.
00:04:16.000It was peak woke that those names changed.
00:04:18.000We've got pressure on the Senate to get President Trump's confirmations, the judges, all the down-the-line confirmations.
00:04:26.000We got Obama admitting that Democrats have villainized young men.
00:04:29.000We've got Kearney in Canada and King Charles in the UK basically blessing and legitimizing the Muslim takeover of those countries and so much more.
00:04:42.000I mean, I'm probably missing something, but that, I mean, there's a lot going on today.
00:04:51.000And I'm going to give the quick overview of what we're dealing with.
00:04:56.000This Tulsi Gabbard DNI story is truly explosive.
00:04:59.000I believe Blake has a contrarian take, but essentially what happened here is DNA Tulsi Gabbard is alleging that after President Trump won the 2016 election, that President Barack Obama and his top officials, including James Clapper, John Brennan, James Comey, Susan Rice, they engaged in a quote-unquote treasonous conspiracy to undermine President Trump's presidency.
00:05:24.000She claims that they manufactured intelligence.
00:05:28.000They created a false intelligence report claiming that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to help Trump, despite earlier intelligence briefings and conclusions that said the opposite.
00:05:40.000There was this now famous, infamous December 9th meeting where Obama directed his officials to produce a new intelligence assessment.
00:05:49.000And this intelligence assessment was ultimately released on January 6th, and it contradicted the prior reports about Russian interference.
00:05:57.000Then they leaked these claims to the Washington Post, NBC, New York Times, pushing the narrative that Russia interfered and influenced the election outcome.
00:06:08.000Here's the kicker: they used the Steele dossier, according to Tulsi Gabbard, to build this new assessment.
00:06:15.000Obviously, the Steele dossier has been completely debunked, is an act of fiction.
00:06:20.000This, she says, resulted in a years-long coup.
00:06:24.000Gabbard calls this effort to delegitimize President Trump's victory, leading to the Mueller investigation.
00:06:30.000Ultimately, you could argue two impeachments, arrests of officials, heightened U.S.-Russian tensions.
00:06:37.000I mean, the implications of what happened here are extraordinarily far-reaching.
00:07:02.000I tend to fall on the side of skeptical positivity that we could actually be seeing some accountability here.
00:07:11.000But I'm skeptical because we've yet to really see accountability across our government and all the scandals and all the quote-unquote conspiracy theories that have been proven correct after the fact.
00:07:24.000Blake, I want you to paint both a positive and a negative.
00:07:30.000Give the audience what could result from this and why you think that there might be some speed bumps ahead.
00:07:38.000So the basic narrative, as you laid out, is she's kind of taken stuff that I believe it's mostly things we already had seen before.
00:07:48.000I can't recall which parts are exactly new that they're bringing out.
00:07:53.000But what she's highlighting is that in the lead up to the 2016 election, we had intelligence briefings that said it's unlikely Russia can basically change the outcome of the election.
00:08:05.000And then she says the Russia hoax stuff afterwards was basically an attempt to rewrite this to bring down the administration.
00:08:14.000Now, I guess the positive version of it would be that if they bring this investigation, they can, well, first of all, it's a good excuse to sort of just delve into every, sorry, to delve into everything that they've ever ever that ever happened in the Obama administration.
00:08:31.000You can bring up more CAA documents, more FBI documents.
00:08:34.000Maybe you can find things that they missed before in the prior Inspector General investigations.
00:08:40.000And you can get them on false statements.
00:08:42.000I remember a few weeks ago, we had the story that they were looking at possible false statements by Brennan, by Comey, maybe they would bring before Congress.
00:08:51.000And I mean, we've known Brennan 100% perjured himself to Congress long ago on things like drones spying on Americans and stuff.
00:09:00.000So they've already lied to Congress about those things.
00:09:03.000We might be out of the statute of limitations.
00:09:06.000Just to pause really quick, what would so say this comes to nothing, right?
00:09:11.000DNI Gabbard's accusations, allegations here come to nothing.
00:09:16.000Fixate on the FISA lies, which we know, which is proven.
00:10:04.000Now, I would first of all caution people, that is very difficult.
00:10:09.000Stephen Miller is saying seditious conspiracy.
00:10:12.000Either way, I mean, treasonous conspiracy.
00:10:15.000Treason is defined in the Constitution as specifically levying war against the United States or giving aid and comfort to its enemies.
00:10:23.000I think it would be a big stretch to suddenly just stretch that to basically just saying, well, they're undermining the administration, and so that's treasonous.
00:10:34.000Frankly, that is exactly why we wrote that provision in the Constitution that way, because the old English governments love to use the law that way, and the founders didn't care for that.
00:10:44.000I think it would be a big reach to try to bring a case like that.
00:10:49.000And frankly, I just don't think it would work.
00:10:53.000And I think it's also important to flag political difficulties to this.
00:10:59.000Obviously, President Trump has his differences with President Obama, but I think it's worth reminding people, broadly speaking, Obama's pretty popular with most Americans.
00:11:07.000And I think it could end up being a distraction if they're trying to drag Obama into court for his actions at the very end of his presidency because they're mad about how they handled an election that Trump won a decade ago.
00:11:23.000We can kind of debate this back and forth.
00:11:24.000Yeah, I mean, I just have a wildly different emotional, visceral take from this.
00:11:31.000We have to guard against our emotions and think rationally, prudently.
00:11:34.000So, Blake, and I actually really appreciate sometimes I tend to be a gas pedal and you could be my break sort of thing.
00:11:42.000And so I fully appreciate where you're coming from, and I want to see this thing clear-eyed.
00:11:48.000However, I think to one critical, you know, Pandora's box getting ripped open, right?
00:11:55.000And nobody wants to live in a country constantly convulsed by legal infighting amongst, you know, where we're trying to throw people in prison all the time.
00:12:05.000This is not the America you or I grew up in.
00:12:25.000But Obama started a lot of the precedent if the allegations are proven true that he actually directed this based on and directed the intel community to give him a different assessment.
00:12:36.000Apparently hours before the original assessment was about to be published, they pulled it based on new direction.
00:12:44.000The new direction, apparently, is directly tied to Obama.
00:12:47.000Now, we don't even have to go after Obama, okay?
00:12:51.000There is James Clapper, Brennan, there's Comey, there's Susan Rice, there's put up the shady bunch clip, right?
00:13:01.000I mean, President Trump's putting this out, right?
00:13:04.000Valerie Jarrett, there was a lot of people in this meeting.
00:13:07.000And one of the reasons that this is infuriating, I think, to so many people and why we want to see actual accountability is, again, because what they did to President Trump and the egregiousness of their actions, the fact that there was no line, the fact that there was no prudence in the way that they went about things.
00:13:41.000But I do believe that there has to be actionable offenses here because of what ultimately happened.
00:13:46.000The Russia, Russia, Russia narrative spread like wildfire on purpose because they leaked it.
00:13:52.000They used the steel dossier in order to do it, which has been completely discredited, which was paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign as compromise, as not even compromised, as sort of like ginning up fake stories.
00:14:05.000And it turned out to be completely and utterly false.
00:14:09.000And yet our nation was dragged into the mud for a very, very long time as a result.
00:14:18.000Yeah, so we were discussing there just, you know, whether this is ultimately like worthwhile.
00:14:24.000I would, I guess I always want to advise caution on these things.
00:14:27.000First of all, this is delving back a long time.
00:14:30.000A decade is a long time ago in U.S. politics.
00:14:35.000You know, it'd be like if, oh, man, it would be like if the Obama administration was investigating stuff that happened at the end of the Clinton administration, or if you were suddenly, you know, if you were suddenly dredging up stuff from 1992 after 9-11.
00:14:51.000But Blake, because President Trump won, then he was not, then Biden took over, and now he's back again.
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00:17:34.000I am still, I think, channeling a lot of the emotions that our base and our audience is feeling because, yes, it was 2016, 2017, and we're all the way in 2025 now.
00:17:44.000But this all feels like yesterday to all of us.
00:17:47.000And we lived through what was so unprecedented.
00:17:52.000And it feels like these are the people responsible for dragging the nation through such a traumatic and unnecessary experience that resulted in Robert Moeller that probably led to two impeachments.
00:18:19.000And make your point because I think it's important.
00:18:21.000Well, so one thing I really want to highlight is there's a bit of a slate of hand going on with what Tulsi Gabbard says in her post, because let me bring it up here.
00:18:34.000So when she's summarizing her stuff on X, this is where she posted it last Friday.
00:18:40.000The stuff she's highlighting before the election, where she's using this to argue that they changed course.
00:18:46.000So for example, on September 9th, there's a presidential daily briefing and it says, we agree Russia probably is not and will not be trying to influence the election by using cyber means to manipulate computer-enabled election infrastructure.
00:19:04.000And similarly, on December 7th, they have these talking points from James Clapper.
00:19:11.000We assess that foreign adversaries did not use cyber attacks on election infrastructure to alter the U.S. presidential election outcome this year.
00:19:20.000We have no evidence of cyber manipulation of election infrastructure intended to alter results.
00:19:27.000So that's what she's flagging as the evidence of what they really believed was going on.
00:19:32.000And then she says that on December 8th, they suddenly pivoted to this new, they're handling all their, they're looking at the evidence again.
00:19:41.000And then they put out in early January, they put out new talking points that basically amount to, let's see, do I have it here?
00:19:51.000Like they were prepared to produce an assessment per the president's request.
00:19:56.000And then basically what they said is that they're looking like Russia, you know, Russia interfered in the election.
00:20:01.000They did the Russia hack in order to help President Trump.
00:20:04.000When they pivot to this, they actually never say Russia, we've changed our mind, Russia changed election results.
00:20:12.000They explicitly say Russia didn't do that.
00:20:15.000What they say is they went into the big picture supposed Russian, the Russian collusion scandal, which was that Russia wanted Trump to win, so they did other stuff, or that Russia had contacts with the Trump administration.
00:20:31.000And so that's how we got the entrapment of General Flynn.
00:20:34.000That's how we got the whole Russia collusion thing.
00:20:38.000That's what Russia collusion meant, the bogus idea that the Trump campaign was literally actively working with the Russians.
00:21:22.000The smarter play was to say Russia was certainly doing this.
00:21:26.000And so I see it as a conspiracy because they're already looking at the Russian steel dossier here.
00:21:35.000They're taking pieces of it, leaking the narrative to the press and seeding it.
00:21:39.000And then the rest of the work is done by the media and by talking heads on TV.
00:21:43.000And next thing you know, Trump is colluding with Russia.
00:21:46.000Okay, so Russia is certainly trying to collude or is trying to influence the U.S., according to their fake assessment, to alter the election results, which they weren't.
00:21:56.000So now, so the Intel community does their part, and it's very easy for the mind to then fill in the blank that Trump is colluding with the Russians to do this.
00:22:05.000So my point is, is that, yeah, maybe this, maybe, maybe they were being a little cute and they were being, I don't know, they were holding back, going all the way to saying Trump had something to do with it.
00:22:16.000But ultimately, that's exactly what the story became.
00:22:21.000It's because they had seeded the ground.
00:22:23.000They had absolutely inserted into the zeitgeist that Trump and Russia together in harmony, and that ended up derailing and completely distracting President Trump.
00:22:34.000You had Hillary Clinton calling him an illegitimate president for years.
00:22:38.000I don't know if she's still saying she probably is.
00:22:40.000Blake, I think it's important if we just got to hear Tulsi in her own words here.
00:22:44.000So let's go ahead and play cut 252, Tulsi Gabbard.
00:22:48.000Over 100 documents that we released on Friday really detail and provide evidence of how this treasonous conspiracy was directed by President Obama just weeks before he was due to leave office, after President Trump had already gotten elected.
00:23:07.000This is not a Democrat or Republican issue.
00:23:10.000This is an issue that is so serious it should concern every single American because it has to do with the integrity of our Democratic Republic.
00:23:20.000I mean, she's coming out guns ablazing.
00:23:23.000And listen, again, I want to reiterate, I appreciate the fact that you're urging caution here because I tend to agree with you.
00:23:31.000We're not going to get everything we want.
00:23:32.000And there is a segment of the base that's not going to be happy until we see, you know, Anthony Fauci and Brennan, like, you know, strung up from their entrails or something like that.
00:23:41.000I mean, so it's like, I'm not saying that that's what's going to happen.
00:23:44.000You're saying, hey, the statute, maybe it's a five-year prison sentence.
00:23:47.000I think we should push to get some accountability here because I do think what they did was completely out of bounds.
00:23:53.000I think it was completely out of line.
00:23:55.000And it ended up having these tremendous downstream effects.
00:23:58.000And there needs to be accountability on our IC.
00:24:02.000Well, it's just, I think, first of all, I think we should appreciate that they, we saw the outcome of attempting to just basically gin up ways to put your political opposition in prison.
00:24:15.000And it was, Donald Trump got elected again last November.
00:24:24.000And he, you know, he won the popular vote, won more states than ever before.
00:24:28.000So there's clearly like some potential political downsides to this sort of thing.
00:24:34.000But I think that that's partly because President Trump is just a singular, unique political phenomenon that wouldn't be cowed by this and didn't stop fighting.
00:24:42.000Any other era, I mean, if you just go back a few different iterations of Republican presidential nominees, they would not have done this.
00:24:51.000And so just because he was able to overcome all of this, everything that was thrown at him is, I think, more of a testament to him and his willpower and his courage than it is to sort of saying, hey, this backfired because it's a dumb thing to do.
00:25:06.000It very well could have been a very smart thing to do.
00:25:09.000It just didn't work out for him this time.
00:25:11.000So again, I would encourage everyone to kind of pause.
00:25:14.000And let's look at what we're saying here.
00:25:16.000It was a treasonous conspiracy because we were distracted by this in 2017, 2018.
00:25:25.000It's actually, it's the sort of, it's a very vague, like, frankly, it almost sounds kind of sinister.
00:25:31.000And I think you'll have trouble selling that to the American public that, you know, these people committed a treasonous conspiracy because like people were watching it on the news and they got really irritated by it.
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00:26:47.000Fortunately, there is a way to fight back.
00:27:45.000The seriousness of, again, the implications and the consequences of these actions that were taken demand accountability.
00:27:53.000The American people not only deserve the truth and accountability, when we look at the future of our country as a Democratic republic and the American people's ability to have faith that when they go and cast a vote at the ballot box, that the will of the people will be respected by those in government, whether they be Democrats or Republicans.
00:28:12.000This is literally what is at stake here.
00:28:14.000So we are referring all of our documents to the Department of Justice for the purpose of accountability and action.
00:28:25.000The truth must be shown to the American people in order to ensure that there is this faith and trust and integrity in our Democratic Republic for the sake of the future of our country.
00:28:37.000There is DNI Tulsi Gabbard calling for accountability.
00:28:41.000A sentiment I know many of you in the audience feel.
00:28:44.000Gonna wait for all the facts to come out.
00:28:46.000We don't want to get over our skis or ahead of ourselves.
00:28:48.000Here to help make sense of that, and we're also gonna get into Senate confirmations is Senator Rick Scott from the great state of Florida, a great friend of the show and a great patriot.
00:30:03.000You know, President Trump had a truth out, and he said, hopefully the very talented John Thune, fresh off our many victories over the past two weeks and indeed six months, will cancel August recess and long weekends in order to get my incredible nominees confirmed.
00:31:47.000That's where people go either go on vacation, they travel at home and visit the constituents or travel around the world, like going to other countries to meet with the political and military leaders.
00:31:57.000So what the president is saying is, get my nominees done.
00:32:55.000Number two is we have ambassadors that have to be confirmed.
00:32:59.000Number three is we have judges that have to be confirmed.
00:33:01.000Number four, we have U.S. attorneys that have to be confirmed.
00:33:04.000Next, we have U.S. Marshals that have to be confirmed.
00:33:07.000So I think, Andrew, this might be off a little bit, but I think we have about 900 people that need to be confirmed.
00:33:13.000Now we have, they first go through a committee.
00:33:15.000So we have somewhere between 150, 160 people that have already gone through the committee process.
00:33:21.000And so they're waiting for the confirmation on the Senate floor.
00:33:24.000Historically, all right, before Trump, you know, the you know, the Democrats would allow you to do a batch of them because it's some of these people have come through with unanimous consent out of a committee and things like that.
00:33:40.000It's not like it's Supreme Court judge, things like that.
00:33:43.000So, but the Democrats, they're sitting here.
00:33:45.000Number one, they're the ones slowing this down, but we've got to, you know, we've got to, we've got to sticker, we got it, we've got to start coming in earlier, working later, working weekends.
00:33:55.000If we have to cancel recess, cancel recess.
00:33:58.000I think, you know, I speak for our audience, Senator, that we agree the Senate schedule is an abomination.
00:34:07.000Can Leader Thune, can he simply just change the rules?
00:34:11.000Like, how much power does he have to cancel August recess or to extend to a five-day work week so you're not leaving at Thursday, you know, at four o'clock?
00:34:20.000So the leader of the Senate right now, majority leaders as John Thune, he can he decides our schedule.
00:34:27.000Now, here's his limitation: senators have to stay here.
00:34:43.000They have to say, I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to, I'm not going to leave on Thursday at 1:45 after the, you know, after that vote.
00:34:50.000I'm willing to stay on Fridays and Saturdays and Sundays and recess, whatever it is.
00:35:00.000Yeah, I was going to say, if all the Democrats basically say, hey, we're not going to show up, but we get 53 Republicans, is that enough to keep going on?
00:35:09.000If they just don't want to show up, that's their own problem, right?
00:35:11.000Yeah, we can, if we, if, if, yeah, the only thing though, the old, yeah, so the value of the Democrats showing up is that maybe they'll, maybe at some point, they'll say, hey, we'll let these go through quicker.
00:35:25.000So we won't make a two-hour wait for each one.
00:35:42.000Yes, we've got the top cabinet officials in place and that's huge and they're setting the tone.
00:35:49.000But if they don't have people below them to execute on this agenda, it's going to be a massive, massive impediment to actually getting the agenda.
00:36:00.000And judges and U.S. attorneys and U.S. marshals, ambassadors.
00:36:08.000Andrew, I think it's 100, and I'd have to look at the list.
00:36:10.000I think it's at least 150, might be 160 people we're waiting for right now.
00:36:32.000We don't want to have to turn up the heat, but we will.
00:36:34.000This is a huge, huge issue that, you know, it's not grabbing headlines like, you know, Tulsi Gabbard and ObamaGate and things like that.
00:36:43.000It is massively important to the work of the country actually getting done.
00:36:47.000Real quick, sir, Senator, real quick, breaking news.
00:36:52.000Jerome Powell has just been referred to the DOJ for criminal charges for perjury related to his $2.5 billion renovation of the Federal Reserve building.
00:37:01.000Rep Luna is alleging that Powell falsely downplayed the project's $600 million cost increase and denied the existence of luxury features like a VIP dining room and rooftop garden.
00:37:28.000I think it's an interesting one because we're talking about allegations of perjury on the cost of a billion.
00:37:35.000But by the way, I'm not saying I'm against it in theory because in principle, the budget overruns, you've got this, and I know this hits close to home, Senator.
00:37:44.000You've got Democrats in California, what was it supposed to be $30 billion?
00:37:48.000Now they're saying it's $133 billion for this high-speed rail.
00:37:52.000President Trump has now pulled the federal funding from that.
00:37:55.000I know in Florida, you rejected such a similar project.
00:37:59.000My first month in office, I mean, I had the same opportunity my first month in office.
00:38:04.000Obama wanted me to build a high-speed train that had to stop 15 times between Orlando and Tampa.
00:39:18.000And Senator, just to make sure we keep our eyes on the prize here, when we talk to young people, it's all about they can't own homes, they can't start families.
00:40:30.000Let's go ahead and play a little Hunter Biden 279.
00:40:35.000If I became president in two years from now, or four years from now, or three years from now, I would pick up the phone and call President El Salvador and say, you either send them back or I'm going to invade.
00:41:39.000Who do you think is here by the sheer just grit and will that they figured out a way to get here because they thought that they could give themselves and their family a better chance?
00:41:52.000And he's somehow convinced all of us that these people are criminals.
00:41:58.000So Hunter Biden is the pure embodiment of this elite class of Americans that have never worked an honest day in their lives.
00:42:08.000And they expect that we can just throw away the entire country, ignore our immigration laws, ignore the border, ignore all the fentanyl that comes in, ignore all the crime, ignores the fact that a CBP officer was just shot in an attempted robbery in New York City when he was off duty by a foreign national from the Dominican Republic.
00:42:28.000These guys couldn't care less about you.
00:42:30.000They couldn't care less about what happens to your schools, your DMVs, your hospitals.
00:42:36.000And he is a complete embodiment of the grotesque, corrupt, perverted nature of the DC and New York City ruling elite that have thrown this country into such turmoil and thrown you down the river.
00:43:31.000James Carville hasn't won a race in 40 effing years.
00:43:35.000David Axelrod had one success in his political life, and that was Barack Obama, and that was because of Barack Obama.
00:43:40.000The Pod Save America guys were junior effing speech writers on Barack Obama's Senate staff who have been dining out on the relationships with him, making millions.
00:43:49.000Anita Dunn has made 40 to 50 million off the Democrat Party.
00:43:53.000What influence does Jake Tapper have over anything?
00:43:56.000He has the smallest audience on cable news.
00:43:59.000I mean, tough to argue with any of those points, Blake.
00:44:44.000As quote-unquote progressives, Democrats, progressive parents, enlightened ones, we've made that mistake sometimes in terms of our rhetoric, where it's like we're constantly talking about, you know, what's wrong with the boys instead of what's right with them.
00:45:03.000We rightly have tried to invest in girls to make sure that there's a level playing field and then they're not barred from opportunities.
00:45:15.000But we haven't been as willing, I think, to be intentional about investing in the boys, and that's been a mistake.
00:45:26.000And thanks to their misstep, you might have delivered the presidency for a second time to President Trump because we actually gave a message of hope and opportunity to young men that have been villainized by the Democrat Party for far too long.
00:45:40.000Thanks so much for listening, everybody.