The Charlie Kirk Show - Is It Time To Panic About Chinese White Lung?

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today's Charlie Kirk show.

00:00:01.000 Dr. Pierre Corey to address the white lung syndrome.

00:00:04.000 What is the truth?

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00:01:42.000 Alex, welcome back to the program.

00:01:44.000 For our audience that isn't covering it carefully or closely, what is COP28 and the news made in the last couple of days?

00:01:51.000 Okay, so COP28 stands for Conference of the Parties of the United Nations Framework Concerning Climate Change.

00:01:59.000 And essentially, this is the organization that leads global policy every year.

00:02:04.000 So this is where the Paris Climate Agreement was formed.

00:02:07.000 And every year they basically get together and they say, How can we eliminate fossil fuels faster?

00:02:13.000 And every year they're very frustrated because even though they have restricted fossil fuels, they've done a lot of damage.

00:02:18.000 They've helped create a global energy crisis by creating shortages of fossil fuels.

00:02:21.000 They always think they haven't done enough.

00:02:23.000 And so this year, once again, they're saying, hey, how do we rapidly eliminate fossil fuels to, quote, save the climate?

00:02:29.000 Not realizing that because fossil fuels are so amazingly beneficial overall, including to our safety from climate, that rapidly eliminating them just means destroying the world as we know it.

00:02:40.000 I want you to respond to Hillary Clinton here.

00:02:41.000 You do a great job of this, Alex.

00:02:43.000 Let's play cut nine. 0.68

00:02:44.000 I want your response.

00:02:46.000 We're seeing and beginning to pay attention and to count and record the deaths that are related to climate.

00:02:54.000 And by far, the biggest killer is extreme heat.

00:02:57.000 We don't have that kind of number yet from Africa, Asia, Latin America, but we know and estimate that we probably could measure about 500,000 deaths.

00:03:10.000 And the majority of those are women and girls, and particularly pregnant women.

00:03:16.000 Your response, Alex.

00:03:18.000 I don't know what she means we're beginning to measure.

00:03:20.000 We've been measuring climate-related disaster deaths for, I mean, we have 100 years plus of data, and it's unequivocally clear that the rate of disaster death, so from storms and floods and extreme temperatures, has gone down by a factor of 50.

00:03:32.000 So it's a 98% decline.

00:03:34.000 So fossil fuels haven't taken a safe climate or made it dangerous.

00:03:37.000 They've taken a dangerous climate and made it safe.

00:03:39.000 Now, even with heat-related deaths, the biggest climate killer is actually cold-related deaths by a factor of seven or eight.

00:03:45.000 So she's just making stuff up.

00:03:46.000 And then in terms of the women and girls, this is particularly perverse because fossil fuels have been the greatest liberator of women and girls.

00:03:53.000 They actually allow people to have machines so that women aren't having drudgery all the time so they can get education. 1.00

00:03:58.000 So this is an exactly backwards narrative by somebody who's just totally ignorant of the basic data that's publicly available.

00:04:05.000 I want to have you respond here to John Kerry.

00:04:08.000 Is this the hottest year in human history that we've ever measured?

00:04:10.000 Play cut eight.

00:04:11.000 Alex, your response.

00:04:13.000 Last summer, it was 70 degrees Fahrenheit above normal in the Arctic.

00:04:18.000 It was 100 degrees Fahrenheit above normal in the Antarctic.

00:04:23.000 So I'm not going to say more about it.

00:04:25.000 Except to say that if we can't hear Mother Nature and can't judge with our own eyes what the science is telling us, this is not about politics.

00:04:35.000 There's no ideology.

00:04:37.000 There's no pejorative against any one business or any approach.

00:04:41.000 There is simply mathematics and physics and some chemistry and biology.

00:04:48.000 That is what we are acting on.

00:04:51.000 Wow.

00:04:51.000 Mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology.

00:04:55.000 What is he missing?

00:04:58.000 Your response to John Kerry, take your time, walk through it.

00:05:01.000 Sure.

00:05:02.000 So, well, let's just deal with that issue of 100 degrees above average or whatever he said.

00:05:06.000 And it's like, oh, I'm just telling you the science.

00:05:08.000 No, it obviously wasn't 100 degrees above average in general.

00:05:11.000 What he's taking is a high data point and then comparing that to the average in an area with very high variability of temperature.

00:05:17.000 So that's just meaningless.

00:05:18.000 So let's just talk about this issue of, is it the hottest year ever for humans and what's the significance?

00:05:23.000 And the fact is, we do not have good records for the vast, vast majority of human history.

00:05:28.000 We have semi-decent records going back 150 years.

00:05:31.000 We have regional records showing in the past and different in certain places that it was considerably warmer in the past.

00:05:36.000 We don't have good global records.

00:05:38.000 I mean, what would that mean going 10,000 years ago?

00:05:40.000 We don't have annual records going 10,000 years ago.

00:05:42.000 So it's a pretty meaningless statement to just say, yeah, it's one of the warmer years in the last 150 years.

00:05:48.000 And that shouldn't be surprising because 300 years ago, we began a warming period without fossil fuels.

00:05:53.000 And I do believe fossil fuels have some warming impact.

00:05:56.000 The question is, is that a problem?

00:05:58.000 And I would say no, in a world where far more people die of cold than of heat, it's not a problem that it's getting a little bit warmer.

00:06:04.000 And the energy we get from fossil fuels, as I've said and proven, has made us far safer from climate.

00:06:09.000 So fossil fuels are not a climate villain.

00:06:11.000 They're a climate hero.

00:06:13.000 And Kerry doesn't know how to think about this issue.

00:06:15.000 So all he does is look for negative side effects of fossil fuels and not benefits.

00:06:19.000 And that leads you to terrible decisions.

00:06:21.000 And just by saying math and science, which by the way, he knows nothing about, that's just sophistry camouflaging that he's not thinking about the issue in the most basically logical way.

00:06:31.000 So the kind of climate alarmism that exists is obviously about eliminating fossil fuels and abolishing any sort of advantage the Western world enjoys.

00:06:44.000 What is the driver of that?

00:06:45.000 I think it's, and I know you agree, it is a pursuit to Marxism and totalitarianism using climate as a means.

00:06:51.000 Your thoughts, Alex.

00:06:53.000 I think that that's part of it.

00:06:54.000 I mean, I think there is at least two components.

00:06:56.000 And I talk about this a lot in my book, Fossil Future, particularly chapter three.

00:07:00.000 I talk about the motives of this.

00:07:02.000 And I think it's actually deeper than Marxism, although that's an element of it.

00:07:06.000 I think it's a deep anti-humanism, the belief that human impact is bad and should be eliminated.

00:07:13.000 Just look at how we think of climate.

00:07:14.000 We just think any human change to climate is evil.

00:07:17.000 And therefore, our number one priority should be to eliminate it.

00:07:20.000 And that's why you have this crazy campaign to rapidly eliminate fossil fuels that billions of people need.

00:07:25.000 We have no near-term replacement for.

00:07:27.000 We're in a world where 3 billion people use less electricity than a typical American refrigerator.

00:07:32.000 And the world is saying, let's get off fossil fuels as quickly as possible.

00:07:35.000 So they really worship an unimpacted climate like a god, and they're sacrificing us to that.

00:07:40.000 And it's a broader view just that human impact is bad.

00:07:43.000 And our top priority should be to eliminate it.

00:07:45.000 Now, in terms of Marxism and communism and more broadly statism, it's a dream come true for statists to have a villain that applies to everyone.

00:07:54.000 So if CO2 is the villain, if climate change, so-called, is the villain from fossil fuels, that means they have the right to regulate every aspect of life.

00:08:02.000 It's kind of like with COVID, some people loved the idea of a virus that anyone could carry and you could treat anyone as guilty until proven innocent because it allowed unlimited statism.

00:08:11.000 And it's a similar dynamic for climate stuff.

00:08:14.000 So let's play another piece of tape here.

00:08:16.000 I'd like your reaction.

00:08:17.000 Kamala Harris in Dubai talking about taxpayer dollars they spent on climate resilience and renewable energy.

00:08:24.000 Play cut six.

00:08:26.000 As vice president, I have partnered with Caribbean leaders, including Prime Minister Terrence Drew and Mia Motley and others to launch a new initiative to build climate resilience and renewable energy for island nations.

00:08:40.000 Earlier this year, I was proud to be in Zambia, where we secured $7 billion in private sector investment for initiatives such as climate smart agriculture and renewable energy projects across the continent of Africa.

00:08:58.000 Alex, your response to Kamala Harris.

00:09:00.000 My response is you are doing an incredible disservice to those people.

00:09:05.000 We know how to get climate resilience.

00:09:07.000 We know how to get development, and that's by freedom and fossil fuels.

00:09:10.000 Look how Singapore became basically the wealthiest place in the world.

00:09:13.000 They use 99% fossil fuels.

00:09:15.000 Look how China, look how India, look how Japan, look how South Korea, they all developed using fossil fuels.

00:09:22.000 As I've said, we're safer than ever from climate.

00:09:25.000 We're incredibly climate resilient with fossil fuels.

00:09:28.000 So how can you be when you talk about Zambia and the Caribbean, but particularly Zambia, these poor places, they need development as quickly as possible.

00:09:36.000 You need to get the hell out of their way instead of telling them to do these ridiculous climate-smart things that nobody has ever developed from.

00:09:42.000 Nobody probably ever will develop from.

00:09:44.000 So it's just pure regression.

00:09:46.000 They're in stagnation.

00:09:47.000 They're telling the poorest nations in the world in the name of this climate worship to stagnate and regress.

00:09:52.000 And it's really sickening.

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00:09:58.000 Tell us about it.

00:09:59.000 Yeah, so Fossil Future, check that out.

00:10:00.000 Also, check out energytalkingpoints.com, which you can actually subscribe to at alexepstein.substack.com.

00:10:06.000 And yeah, as part of that, if you're a premium subscriber, you get access to something called Alex AI, which people can see for free if you search Alex AI or Alex GPT on the app store.

00:10:15.000 We're going to publicly release it in a couple of weeks, but this answers every energy, environmental, and climate question as me.

00:10:21.000 And you're going to see it soon on Twitter because it can actually respond to every anti-fossil fuel, every anti-energy freedom tweet immediately.

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00:11:29.000 So Alex, I'm going to do my best here to repeat some of the arguments I hear on campus.

00:11:34.000 You're the expert on how to refute this.

00:11:37.000 So it will be some kind of variety of this.

00:11:41.000 An activist on campus will say, Charlie, why are you standing against the experts?

00:11:46.000 The scientific consensus supposedly supports radical anti-carbon activism and divestment.

00:11:55.000 And climate change is obviously man-made.

00:11:58.000 Why do you stand against the experts?

00:12:00.000 99% of scientists agree.

00:12:02.000 Oh, by the way, just as a reminder, anyone can go to energytalkingpoints.com, search like 97%.

00:12:07.000 So you can find this stuff there in case you don't have me, but you have me now.

00:12:10.000 So yeah, this is an easy one.

00:12:11.000 The 97% consensus, insofar as it exists, is a consensus that we have some warming impact.

00:12:18.000 That's not the same as a catastrophic warming impact.

00:12:21.000 And it's not the same as an impact that justifies depriving billions of people of the benefits of fossil fuels, including all the climate benefits that make us far safer from climate.

00:12:31.000 So then I guess the question I would have how to respond, and I guess we can go to your website, is how can you not know if climate change is happening?

00:12:42.000 I guess they get into the idea of the solution, existential threat.

00:12:48.000 Are we willing to concede that some of the raising global temperatures is man-made?

00:12:53.000 Well, yeah, I think that's some.

00:12:54.000 It's not, I don't think it can be quantified precisely.

00:12:58.000 But so the framing of this is wrong.

00:13:00.000 What we care about is climate livability and avoiding climate danger.

00:13:04.000 We don't care about preserving the exact climate that existed in 1800.

00:13:08.000 Why would you think that was the perfect climate?

00:13:10.000 People didn't think it was the perfect climate then.

00:13:11.000 They thought it was too cold because it was a cold period.

00:13:14.000 We had a little ice age.

00:13:15.000 So we have the most livable climate ever because we've had fairly minor changes in climate and we've had an enormous ability in our ability to, enormous increase in our ability to protect ourselves from climate.

00:13:26.000 So what I'm, I think people need to factor in the benefits of energy when they think of climate, just like you would logically.

00:13:31.000 Charlie, can you think of anyone, even a climate activist, who would rather live in the climate of 1900 versus today?

00:13:37.000 I don't think so because that was an incredibly deadly climate, even though it was supposedly less changed by us.

00:13:43.000 Yeah, and I guess that gets to the fundamental thing is the change is human beings being a pollutant on the Earth.

00:13:49.000 That is kind of the moral question underneath, correct?

00:13:52.000 Yeah, so the underlying assumption here is that all human impact is immoral.

00:13:57.000 And then there's a further assumption that human impact is necessarily catastrophically self-destructive.

00:14:03.000 This is why you get all these false catastrophe predictions because they just think anytime we impact Earth, it must be bad.

00:14:08.000 We're these parasite polluters, as I describe it in Fossil Future.

00:14:12.000 But we're actually producer improvers.

00:14:14.000 Our actions, our activities make the Earth a better place for us, as well as for many other species.

00:14:20.000 And we make the world better.

00:14:21.000 We should embrace that.

00:14:22.000 We should keep doing it more and more intelligently.

00:14:24.000 But to act like we've destroyed the climate when we've actually neutralized so much of its danger and made the world much better, we shouldn't be guilty about that.

00:14:31.000 And the fact that something comes from humans doesn't make it bad.

00:14:34.000 If anything, we should assume it's good because we are humans and we should be proud of that.

00:14:38.000 So you have these seven truths about our climate and energy future.

00:14:42.000 I want to, you have this phrase that I like, energy poor.

00:14:45.000 Elaborate on this idea of energy poor.

00:14:47.000 Given the vast majority of the world is energy poor, the world needs far more energy as quickly as possible.

00:14:53.000 If you think about in America, why are we so productive and prosperous?

00:14:56.000 Because we have machines doing way more work than we do.

00:14:59.000 The average American has the equivalent of 75 people's worth of machines.

00:15:03.000 You can think of it as like 75 machine servants.

00:15:06.000 We can only do that because we have energy that's low cost and reliable and versatile, powering every type of machine and scalable to a lot of people.

00:15:13.000 So most of the world has very little machine labor working for them.

00:15:17.000 So if you look at places I mentioned, we have 3 billion people using less electricity than a typical American refrigerator does.

00:15:23.000 We have a third of the world using wood and animal dung.

00:15:25.000 We have 6 billion people who use about a third or less of what we do.

00:15:29.000 So we would consider that totally unacceptable.

00:15:31.000 So yeah, the world is energy poor and you cannot be rich without being energy rich.

00:15:35.000 The final one, how would you respond when people say that the rate of warming we've not seen the past 10,000 years?

00:15:43.000 The earth is getting so much warmer and it's so troubling.

00:15:46.000 How would you respond to that?

00:15:48.000 So, again, we don't have good annual records going back very far.

00:15:51.000 So, the thing is, we've had about one degree Celsius, two degrees Fahrenheit, in about 100 years in a world that in which far more people die from cold than from heat.

00:16:00.000 If you look at the range of hypothetical warming that we could experience, and I talk about this in chapter nine of Fossil Future, you can also see it on energytalkingpoints.com.

00:16:08.000 Like, even in the extreme warming scenarios, we'll be totally fine, and probably still more people will die from cold than from heat.

00:16:15.000 So, the key thing here is there's this anti-human bias that says that if we impact things, it must be evil, it must be self-destructive.

00:16:23.000 And that's really what I'm at war against.

00:16:25.000 I want a pro-human way of thinking about these issues.

00:16:27.000 When you look at the science and the economics from a pro-human perspective, it's very positive for fossil fuels.

00:16:33.000 Alex, thank you so much.

00:16:34.000 We'll have you on it soon.

00:16:35.000 Everyone, check out his wonderful website, energy talkingpoints.com, and his books are terrific.

00:16:39.000 Alex, thanks so much.

00:16:40.000 Thanks, Charlotte.

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00:18:22.000 Joining us now is Dr. Pierre Corey, who is an American hero and stood up against the cartel, the pharmaceutical industrial complex.

00:18:30.000 Dr. Corey, thank you for taking the time.

00:18:32.000 Several topics I want to cover.

00:18:33.000 I want to start with the first one: that to an untrained eye, you would think that there is a new virus that is emerging and hitting children, especially in America.

00:18:41.000 Some people are calling it white lung syndrome.

00:18:43.000 What is the truth here?

00:18:45.000 Yeah, I mean, from the data that I've seen and the reports that I've reviewed, I mean, what seems to be happening in China is something really happened here last year.

00:18:54.000 I mean, last year in the fall, early winter season, we saw this huge surge in RSV and flu, which we hadn't seen before.

00:19:03.000 And I think they're seeing the same in China, but they're also seeing mycoplasma, which is actually a bacterial infection.

00:19:09.000 And so they're seeing this sudden surge in cases of respiratory illnesses.

00:19:14.000 I don't think this is a new unidentified pathogen.

00:19:17.000 Charlie, if this was a new virus or a new bacteria or something weird that was coming on, like I hate to say it, a new bioweapon, we have sophisticated technology that could identify what it is and what its characteristics are.

00:19:30.000 This is really just a surge in respiratory illnesses.

00:19:32.000 Now, I'll ask the question for you, Charlie, but why would this be happening in China right now?

00:19:38.000 A couple of reasons.

00:19:39.000 China had the longest of lockdowns.

00:19:41.000 I mean, theirs only ended, I believe, last January.

00:19:44.000 So this is like kind of the first fall, winter season that they're seeing after lockdowns.

00:19:48.000 That's probably driving a lot of this new exposure to vaccines.

00:19:52.000 But the more important thing, Charlie, is it's the mass, this is in the wake of a mass vaccination campaign against a respiratory virus.

00:20:00.000 We have data going back a long time, for instance, around the flu vaccine.

00:20:05.000 When you get vaccinated for the flu, your risk of other respiratory illnesses grows.

00:20:10.000 And we've mass vaccinated the planet against one respiratory virus.

00:20:14.000 And now we're seeing this huge rise in other respiratory viruses.

00:20:18.000 And I think it's not unexpected.

00:20:20.000 So I think it's two things.

00:20:21.000 It's the prolonged lockdowns with the fact that now you have a population that was mass vaccinated against a respiratory virus and they're now succumbing to others.

00:20:29.000 Is it conceivable that the vaccine has suppressed immunity, meaning it makes it harder for a person to be able to create antibodies and have a robust immune system?

00:20:42.000 Is there any data to suggest that, especially the mRNA shot?

00:20:46.000 It's not just conceivable, Charlie.

00:20:48.000 It's the reality.

00:20:48.000 Immunologists, virologists, vaccinologists know this, especially around this COVID vaccine.

00:20:55.000 It induces several forms of immunosuppression, and it also kind of trains the immune system to direct against a certain virus and not others.

00:21:04.000 And so it's altered immune systems that are leaving you at higher risk of other infections.

00:21:09.000 There's not even a question about it.

00:21:11.000 So the media, I will say that the CDC has come out and they say, we don't see a new pathogen.

00:21:17.000 You know, this is not necessarily out of the ordinary.

00:21:20.000 RSV and pneumonia and flu and COVID are going up slightly.

00:21:26.000 And I guess the question in front of us, they're already pushing, I mean, this Travis Kelsey commercial is ridiculous.

00:21:32.000 You know, you can get two shots in one.

00:21:35.000 And are we creating this almost vaccine-dependent society where our immune system is so suppressed that it's not about losing weight, vitamin D, any of that stuff?

00:21:48.000 And I'm afraid it's creating a permanently sicker type society.

00:21:54.000 And it's also getting into pediatric circles where they're now pushing the COVID shot for my one-year-old.

00:22:00.000 I said, what on earth is this?

00:22:01.000 I mean, this is what planet is this acceptable, Dr. Corey.

00:22:07.000 It's just not.

00:22:08.000 It's hurting the overall health of our population, especially the young people.

00:22:13.000 This monolithic, obsessive response to everything with a vaccine is not sound.

00:22:20.000 I like that you just mentioned things like vitamin D and nutrition.

00:22:23.000 I mean, there are much more sensible things that we can do that don't bring with it harms, that they're generally safe and bring about improvements to health.

00:22:32.000 I mean, even if you believe that these vaccines against rapidly mutating respiratory viruses was a good idea, the downsides of them have to be considered.

00:22:40.000 And there's a lot of downsides.

00:22:42.000 And that's what we're talking about today.

00:22:43.000 That's what we're seeing across the world.

00:22:45.000 And what's happening in China has happened in many other countries.

00:22:48.000 And like I gave you the example, it happened in the U.S. last year.

00:22:50.000 I mean, my organization, right, the FLCCC, we came together and we put together a repurposed drug protocol for RSV and flu a year ago because of this massive surge that we saw coming out of the first two years of the COVID pandemic of those other viruses, which is not unexpected.

00:23:07.000 And so you're right.

00:23:11.000 The vaccine is a solution for everything infectious is just absurd.

00:23:15.000 And what I think is really good about this discussion, Charlie, it's bringing to light the negative adverse consequences.

00:23:22.000 Nobody's thinking about the secondary things.

00:23:24.000 In medicine, you think about things that you always weigh benefits, risks, and alternatives.

00:23:28.000 And these vaccines were presented as nothing but benefits constantly while always mitigating the risk.

00:23:36.000 Well, now we're seeing a whole other set of risks beyond the ones you and I have already talked about.

00:23:40.000 Yeah.

00:23:40.000 And I hate to be cynical, but I think that Dr. Corey, you're on the same page.

00:23:44.000 I don't get the impression from Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson, and Johnson that they want a healthy society.

00:23:50.000 It's almost the sicker we are, the more money they stand to make.

00:23:55.000 And regardless of the, you know, let's say lack of information.

00:23:59.000 I have lost complete trust of the CDC, the NIH.

00:24:01.000 I know you have too, and how you are covering ivermectin.

00:24:06.000 I suppose the pharmaceutical companies look at people like, you know, just regular citizens as potential annuity, lifetime type customers, that the more that they could suppress the immune system, the more money they can make from us.

00:24:18.000 I am encouraged that there has been almost a revival in a health consciousness amongst the American citizenry.

00:24:25.000 And I will say a lot of people aren't necessarily falling for this white lung syndrome thing.

00:24:29.000 The China news had some people on edge, though, Dr. Corey, because obviously, you know, what we saw from the last roundabout, what, if anything, should we be on the lookout front?

00:24:42.000 They're still pushing the booster, 86% of people not taking the booster.

00:24:45.000 What booster are we on, by the way?

00:24:48.000 Charlie, I have to admit, I don't even know.

00:24:51.000 I think I've heard of people that are on their sixth shot, but I can't say that I'm going to be accurate on it.

00:24:57.000 But I like everything you just said.

00:24:58.000 You know, one of the things I realized, every time I get too cynical, I actually find out in retrospect that I'm still being naive.

00:25:05.000 I mean, the complete capture of our public health agency by industry completely explains all of their policies, right?

00:25:13.000 Which is just vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate.

00:25:16.000 And I like that you mentioned that people were on edge with this news out of China, but let me just say that's the third facet that I didn't talk about, right?

00:25:23.000 So it's the effect of prolonged lockdowns, mass vaccination.

00:25:26.000 And then let's go back to, I guess, the term that we use is fear porn, right?

00:25:30.000 That actually, to me, this is as cynical as I can get.

00:25:33.000 It's literally marketing to, by using fear to get people to show up for more vaccines.

00:25:40.000 It's just vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate.

00:25:42.000 And that's where that cynicism comes in because it's divorced from science.

00:25:46.000 It's divorced from pragmatic, sound medical advice.

00:25:49.000 It's already failed.

00:25:50.000 We have numerous sources of data to show that it's failed, and yet they keep doing it.

00:25:55.000 But I like that you said it has been met with a rise in an emphasis on health consciousness.

00:26:01.000 I mean, the way I would summarize this, Charlie, is the system is broken.

00:26:06.000 It's been captured.

00:26:08.000 We cannot trust our agencies anymore because they're literally working in the service of a pharmaceutical industry.

00:26:15.000 And we need to come up with different solutions.

00:26:18.000 So I think what you're seeing, what I'm seeing is a lot of people now taking more individual responsibility for their health and now looking to unconflicted sources, for instance, like my organization, where we don't sell anything.

00:26:30.000 We don't take money through everything.

00:26:31.000 We live off of donations.

00:26:32.000 And we're just trying to give out sound, pragmatic, objective advice.

00:26:36.000 And I think people have an appetite for that now more than they ever have.

00:26:39.000 Yeah, the game has totally changed post-COVID.

00:26:42.000 And the pharmaceutical companies are kind of freaking out because a lot of their stocks are down.

00:26:48.000 A lot of their money grab is down.

00:26:49.000 They're doing everything they can to continue their propaganda campaign.

00:26:52.000 What is the latest news out of New Zealand, Doctor?

00:26:55.000 Yeah, that's an interesting one.

00:26:57.000 So I'll give you my take because there's lots of different perspectives on what happened.

00:27:02.000 But I've just spent the last couple of days.

00:27:04.000 I'm actually in Europe right now as with Steve Kirsch.

00:27:06.000 We testified in the UK Parliament yesterday.

00:27:10.000 And so Steve and I got to talk over the last few days.

00:27:13.000 So, you know, Steve was given access to this leaked data from New Zealand.

00:27:18.000 And what's so unique about this is that this is the first, what you would call patient level record data.

00:27:26.000 You have the vaccination status.

00:27:28.000 So we were, you know, what Steve was able to do with this data set is actually really track dates of vaccination, dates of death, rates of death according to batches.

00:27:38.000 And it's a complete data set.

00:27:40.000 Now, there have been many people, even sort of in our movement, you know, the medical dissent movement, who've questioned, been skeptical on the data.

00:27:47.000 I think there are limitations in the data, but the best analysis of this data is: number one, it fits completely with what we've seen from numerous other data sources in terms of the amount of mortality and deaths that it's causing.

00:28:02.000 Number two, New Zealand has not denied that it was manipulated.

00:28:08.000 They know it's leaked data.

00:28:10.000 And their only concerns is that somehow we're going to betray, you know, that data is going to betray patient confidentiality.

00:28:15.000 I will tell you, the whistleblower knew they were doing a sacrifice.

00:28:18.000 They knew how much trouble they were going to get into.

00:28:20.000 They did it anyway because they had a moral imperative to do it.

00:28:23.000 And now they're in jail.

00:28:24.000 They're in handcuffs.

00:28:25.000 And they knew that that was going to happen.

00:28:26.000 They were willing to do it because they saw really alarming signals from the data.

00:28:31.000 And I think it's the most rigorous data because all that we've seen, right?

00:28:36.000 So life insurance industry data, we didn't have vaccination status.

00:28:39.000 All we could do is correlate with vaccines, unprecedented levels of mortality.

00:28:43.000 We saw it in epidemiology, death rate statistics across countries, how you saw it totally go correlated with vaccination campaigns.

00:28:50.000 But here's a robust data set where you can actually drill down and see a patient's vaccination status, their date, and their death, and their death rates.

00:28:57.000 And you can compare it to regulars.

00:28:59.000 And so it's just, it's probably one of the more compelling and robust data sets.

00:29:04.000 It's still limited because we want more data.

00:29:06.000 But can I just finish with this, Charlie?

00:29:08.000 The main point of this whole story of New Zealand is that this is an example of public health agencies not releasing data.

00:29:15.000 Every public health agency around the world should be releasing that data anonymized on vaccination status, mortality, and outcomes.

00:29:22.000 They're not doing it.

00:29:23.000 It took this man to be so brave to do it.

00:29:26.000 And now look at him.

00:29:27.000 He's in jail.

00:29:28.000 And this shouldn't be a jailable offense.

00:29:30.000 This should be routine public health practice.

00:29:31.000 And they're not doing that anywhere.

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00:31:20.000 So, Dr. Corey, I want to ask you, in your professional opinion, we see this story a lot.

00:31:24.000 I know there's been a lot of reporting on it and a lot of speculation, but it just is a pattern that is not letting up, which is otherwise very healthy athletes that are just dropping inexplicably.

00:31:36.000 We saw one, a University of Minnesota football player, University of Minnesota Duluth.

00:31:39.000 I want to be very careful.

00:31:40.000 I want to play devil's advocate.

00:31:42.000 Are there any other possible explanations?

00:31:44.000 Are we seeing an increase in this?

00:31:45.000 Is this just pattern recognition bias, meaning we're just now seeing it more because we're expecting it?

00:31:52.000 What's really going on here in your personal medical opinion, confirmation bias, I mean, Dr. Corey.

00:31:57.000 What you're seeing is real.

00:31:59.000 I mean, what you see before your eyes, first of all, should be real.

00:32:03.000 It's presented as these rare idiosyncratic cases, but the data absolutely supports that.

00:32:09.000 And the best data for that is the life insurance industry.

00:32:13.000 There has been numerous articles.

00:32:15.000 I've published some of them looking at the society of actuary reports.

00:32:19.000 And you're seeing these massive spikes in the healthiest strata of society historically that we've never seen before, unprecedented.

00:32:28.000 So for instance, in the third quarter of 2021, you saw a rise, and I think it was between 25 and 44-year-olds, white-collar employed 25 to 44-year-olds.

00:32:39.000 You saw this massive rise in death claims in the group life and health insurance data.

00:32:44.000 That's never been seen before.

00:32:46.000 A 10% rise year to year, Charlie, is a one in 200-year event.

00:32:50.000 A 38 to 40 to sometimes 60% rise in certain strata is unprecedented.

00:32:56.000 So if you're wondering if these repeated newspaper reports of young people dying in their sleep, dying on ball fields, dying in athletic competitions is just like a one-off and a strange, rare event and that we're over-interpreting it, then someone needs to explain to me why that's totally supported in young people dying at rates that have never ever been reported historically.

00:33:20.000 Yeah, and it's so sad because you see these otherwise very healthy people that are just dropping and one after the other, and it's not isolated and it seems to be a pattern.

00:33:32.000 And we're willing to look at that pattern and ask a very simple question.

00:33:37.000 Final thought here.

00:33:38.000 Talk about what does the data say about shedding, Dr. Corey?

00:33:42.000 Yeah, that's a big topic, Charlie.

00:33:43.000 So I wrote a long series of subsects on that.

00:33:46.000 What I will say is with gene therapy products, of which these vaccines clearly are meeting FDA definitions of gene therapy products, they also fit into a category of what's called nanoparticle technology, right?

00:33:59.000 So these were mRNA delivered in lipid nanoparticles.

00:34:03.000 They are known to have a risk of shedding.

00:34:06.000 There's FDA documents saying that shedding studies must be done, not only in humans, but in animals.

00:34:12.000 There are other similar gene therapy products, which in their inserts say that there is a risk of shedding in secretions and dressings, you know, a week after the injection.

00:34:22.000 We know with these vaccines, it can be weeks to months afterwards.

00:34:26.000 And then there's just innumerable clinical evidence.

00:34:29.000 I mean, I'm an expert.

00:34:30.000 I treat patients who have long COVID and long vaccine and we have a cohort of our patients who, when they're exposed to crowds or to certain other vaccinated people, their adverse effects get worse.

00:34:42.000 Shedding is real.

00:34:43.000 Luckily, I think it's restricted to minority of very physiologically or environmentally sensitive people, but we don't have real good data on it. 0.98

00:34:50.000 But I'll tell you, Charlie, there's a study coming out where they actually exposed 100 women who are unvaccinated to 100 vaccinated women.

00:34:58.000 And they looked at an outcome, any changes or abnormalities in menstrual cycles.

00:35:03.000 And because that is the most common shedding symptom is women being exposed to others who are vaccinated. 0.50

00:35:09.000 And that's going to be coming out soon.

00:35:10.000 I can't tell you about the results, but it is reaching the end of peer review.

00:35:14.000 And I think it's going to be quite shocking when you find out what they found.

00:35:17.000 Dr. Corey, just plug your deal, a website, book for our audience, please.

00:35:21.000 You do great work.

00:35:22.000 Yeah.

00:35:22.000 So my nonprofit is flcc.net.

00:35:25.000 And then my book is called The War on Ivermectin, The Medicine That Saved Millions and Could Have Ended the Pandemic.

00:35:30.000 That can be found on Amazon.

00:35:31.000 And then my private practice where I treat vaccine injury is drpiercorey.com.

00:35:36.000 Very good.

00:35:36.000 Dr. Corey, thank you so much.

00:35:38.000 God bless you, and you're welcome back anytime.

00:35:40.000 Thank you.

00:35:40.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:35:41.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:35:42.000 Everybody, email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:45.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

00:35:50.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - December 06, 2023

Is It Time To Panic About Chinese White Lung?

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