The Charlie Kirk Show - April 16, 2024


Is It Time To Vacate Mike Johnson?


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Speaker of the House of Representatives Mike Johnson could be vacating the chair. The Foreign Intelligence Service (FISA) has been accused of spying on American citizens and their every waking moment. The vote on an amendment to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act could have prevented this from happening.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
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00:01:24.000 There is some rapidly breaking news on the hill right now where it looks like Speaker Mike Johnson might be vacated.
00:01:34.000 This was all so avoidable.
00:01:36.000 Speaker Johnson punted and surrendered when it came to spending.
00:01:40.000 We were very clear.
00:01:41.000 Hey, Speaker Johnson should have shut down the government back in October, November, should have shut it down over December, should have shut it down in January, should have shut it down in February.
00:01:52.000 He didn't do any of that.
00:01:53.000 Instead, the Democrats got everything they wanted.
00:01:56.000 Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, they got everything they wanted from Mike Johnson.
00:02:01.000 We said, okay, maybe some border security.
00:02:03.000 We got nothing.
00:02:04.000 We received nothing on border security.
00:02:08.000 And we said, well, you know, maybe Israel or Ukraine can be separated and maybe we can draw the line on Ukraine.
00:02:17.000 Now, that one still is TBD, but last week was the opportunity.
00:02:23.000 Despite all the losses, despite all of the letdowns, there was a moment in time where Mike Johnson was not able to hide behind saying I had the slimmest majority ever.
00:02:38.000 There was a little gap where he himself could not blame anybody else except himself as to how this particular issue proceeded or died.
00:02:52.000 You see, on most of these topics, Mike Johnson would understandably say, slimmest majority in American history.
00:02:59.000 We don't have the votes.
00:03:03.000 But last week, this was debated.
00:03:08.000 The U.S. Constitution.
00:03:11.000 The United States Constitution, in a rare sequence of events, was up for a vote.
00:03:19.000 We did a whole program on it.
00:03:20.000 The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, FISA, giving the federal government unchecked powers to spy on you, your text messages, your emails, your phone calls.
00:03:33.000 It has been abused 278,000 times in a single calendar year that we know of.
00:03:40.000 The abuse is widespread.
00:03:42.000 Nobody goes to jail.
00:03:43.000 Nobody gets fired.
00:03:44.000 Nobody loses their pension.
00:03:45.000 Instead, they ascend higher and higher throughout the federal leviathan.
00:03:50.000 Rarely do you get an opportunity where things are simultaneously happening.
00:03:55.000 You have the votes to make permanent change.
00:03:57.000 You could defend the U.S. Constitution.
00:03:59.000 It is high stakes of the people against the regime, and you are not able to hide behind excuses.
00:04:08.000 Friday was one of those days.
00:04:10.000 It came to a vote for an amendment to the FISA bill.
00:04:14.000 And this particular amendment could have made the bill passable for many of us that had concerns.
00:04:22.000 It could have made it tolerable.
00:04:24.000 Where it would have been, it's just so simple, not difficult, not complicated, doesn't require a skiff, it doesn't require a private meeting, it doesn't require a lecture, it doesn't none of that.
00:04:38.000 It's so unbelievably simple that the Federal Bureau of Investigation must get a warrant before they spy on American citizens.
00:04:52.000 That's it.
00:04:54.000 By the way, some people say that's a very reasonable request.
00:04:56.000 It's not a matter of requesting the fact that the government doesn't follow the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution.
00:05:02.000 We're done requesting.
00:05:04.000 So they go down to this amendment that Congressman Andy Biggs from Arizona proposed.
00:05:10.000 Speaker of the House's rarely vote.
00:05:14.000 They rarely vote.
00:05:16.000 They'll vote on consequential bills, or most importantly, they'll vote on tiebreakers.
00:05:21.000 Speaker Johnson made a decision to vote on this bill.
00:05:26.000 It was tied 212 to 212, and Speaker Johnson was the effective tiebreaker.
00:05:33.000 Speaker Johnson himself went down and said, I think the founding fathers were wrong.
00:05:40.000 And let me be very honest with you.
00:05:42.000 I've been cutting him a lot of slack.
00:05:44.000 I've been cheering him on.
00:05:46.000 I've been encouraging him.
00:05:48.000 And I have been saying, we understand you have a slum majority. 1.00
00:05:52.000 We think you want to do the right thing.
00:05:54.000 We think you're fighting for the right stuff.
00:05:55.000 It is hard for me to continue to say that.
00:05:58.000 It's hard for me to continue to believe that Mike Johnson actually wants what's best for the people of this country after that vote.
00:06:06.000 Of course, he surrendered on the border.
00:06:07.000 He surrendered on spending.
00:06:08.000 He surrendered on everything possible.
00:06:10.000 I thought maybe there might be a glimmer where he would stand up against the Unit Party and say, get a warrant.
00:06:17.000 Get a warrant.
00:06:18.000 We are going to follow the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution.
00:06:20.000 You don't have to come up with this concept ex nihilo on your own.
00:06:25.000 It's right here in the alleged, supposed law of the land.
00:06:31.000 And Mike Johnson, the way he justifies it, is that if you require the FBI to get warrants on American citizens, innocent Americans will die.
00:06:43.000 He has been played by the intel agencies.
00:06:47.000 And the answer should be: really, how?
00:06:48.000 How will innocent Americans die if you have to get a warrant?
00:06:52.000 By the way, do we even know the current abuses by the FBI when it comes to the FISA application warrant process?
00:07:01.000 This has been bubbling up all weekend, and Mike Johnson, who has no concern for the U.S. Constitution, no concern for your privacy, no concern for the Fourth Amendment, is now facing a motion to vacate vote.
00:07:15.000 Now, I want to unpack this from every possible angle.
00:07:18.000 But let me first say, on its surface, hard for me to disagree at the sentiment.
00:07:23.000 I understand it's a one or two seat majority.
00:07:26.000 You might get Speaker Jeffries, but at what point are you going to draw a line in the sand?
00:07:30.000 You just allow Mike Johnson to just come and vote against the U.S. Constitution.
00:07:34.000 And again, it's not like it was some sort of opaque thing or it's part of a spending bill.
00:07:38.000 This is a rare DC moment where it was a clear up or down vote.
00:07:43.000 Because usually they'll do sort of omnibuses and there's some good and some bad.
00:07:48.000 This is so simple.
00:07:49.000 An amendment for passage.
00:07:50.000 And you better believe the FBI or whoever his handlers are called them up and said, oh, you have to vote on this.
00:07:58.000 You have to vote on this.
00:08:00.000 And we've tried to tell his team on FISA, try to tell him, and we told them he would be vacated if he did this.
00:08:07.000 And they say it's just tough.
00:08:09.000 You guys just don't have the courage.
00:08:09.000 No, it's not.
00:08:11.000 And it's kind of saddens me because we were really tough on Johnson back in the fall.
00:08:16.000 And then we laid off a little bit.
00:08:18.000 And it turns out we were right.
00:08:19.000 And it saddens me because I thought that there was a fighter there.
00:08:23.000 I thought there was someone that loved liberty.
00:08:26.000 And you know what the most disappointing thing is?
00:08:28.000 He used to be great on FISA.
00:08:31.000 That's the part that's disappointing.
00:08:33.000 In fact, can you guys find some old Mike Johnson tape?
00:08:36.000 Mike Johnson used to be a huge critic of FISA back when he was on the oversight committee.
00:08:41.000 But as Speaker, he's a cheerleader for you to get spied on.
00:08:46.000 He loves the FBI now.
00:08:48.000 Thomas Massey is leading the charge saying Speaker Johnson must resign.
00:08:54.000 Play cut 39.
00:08:57.000 Yeah, I asked him to resign.
00:08:59.000 He said he would not.
00:09:00.000 And then he said, well, these are the money who's going to put us into this.
00:09:02.000 Because the motion is going to get called.
00:09:04.000 Okay.
00:09:05.000 Does anybody doubt that?
00:09:06.000 The motion will get called.
00:09:07.000 And then he's going to lose more votes than Kevin McCarthy.
00:09:11.000 And I have told him this in private, like weeks ago.
00:09:15.000 Thomas Massey is saying there that the motion to vacate will be called and he'll lose more votes than McCarthy.
00:09:21.000 It doesn't seem as if he cares about the consequences, but maybe he'll go get hired by some FBI contractor because he did the bidding of the intel agencies against the American people.
00:09:32.000 He did the work of the James Comey, Peter Strzzok, Lisa Page.
00:09:37.000 He carried their water.
00:09:40.000 And if he wouldn't have voted, we could have delivered a historic win saying you must get a warrant.
00:09:46.000 It's simply all on him.
00:09:48.000 He did this and he might be vacated.
00:09:52.000 We'll talk about some of the downsides of that because you might get Speaker Jeffries.
00:09:55.000 You just have to be ready for that.
00:09:56.000 But is it worth the risk?
00:09:57.000 It might be.
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00:11:36.000 So Speaker Johnson was incredibly wrong.
00:11:38.000 He broke the tie.
00:11:39.000 He voted with the Democrats.
00:11:41.000 Here we have the leader of the Republicans in the House votes with the Democrats against a warrant requirement.
00:11:46.000 We also have Speaker Johnson voting for the spending package.
00:11:49.000 Once again, with a majority of the Democrats.
00:11:52.000 As I see it now, I'm not sure that sure there's a difference between Mike Johnson being in charge and the Democrats being in charge.
00:11:58.000 The debt, the deficit this year will be 1.5 to $2 trillion, and that's Mike Johnson's bill.
00:12:04.000 He put it forward.
00:12:05.000 He supported it with a minority of Republicans, with a majority of Democrats.
00:12:10.000 This is not using the power of the purse.
00:12:12.000 This is abdicating the power of the purse.
00:12:15.000 And then Johnson comes down and says, no warrant.
00:12:18.000 He might lose his speakership over this.
00:12:20.000 Should we support that?
00:12:23.000 Well, there are a couple special elections that are happening in the next couple of weeks that will expand our majority because you got McCarthy's special election and a couple others.
00:12:32.000 But I totally sympathize with the passion here.
00:12:36.000 Just remember how long McCarthy's fall went.
00:12:38.000 It was prolonged.
00:12:40.000 And it made us look really bad.
00:12:41.000 Do we have another speaker ready?
00:12:42.000 And who's ready to step up and make it happen?
00:12:45.000 Speaker Johnson is defiant in the face of new calls for him to vacate the speakership.
00:12:50.000 He says, I'm not resigning.
00:12:52.000 In my view, an absurd notion that someone would bring a vacate motion when we're here simply trying to do our jobs.
00:12:56.000 No, no, no, Speaker Johnson.
00:12:58.000 You're doing the FBI's job for them.
00:13:00.000 Can we go send Speaker Johnson one of those FBI jackets?
00:13:04.000 That's what he should wear around the Capitol.
00:13:06.000 One of those windbreakers.
00:13:07.000 That's what they call them.
00:13:09.000 Can we get one of those on screen?
00:13:11.000 There's got to be an AI image that somebody can make of Speaker Johnson wearing a windbreaker.
00:13:16.000 Play cut 34.
00:13:18.000 What is your response to Republicans who say this move should cost you your job and that if you don't resign, they will try to oust you?
00:13:25.000 I am not resigning.
00:13:26.000 And it is, in my view, an absurd notion that someone would bring a vacate motion when we are simply here trying to do our jobs.
00:13:35.000 It is not helpful to the cause.
00:13:37.000 It is not helpful to the country.
00:13:38.000 It has not helped the House Republicans advance our agenda, which is in the best interest of the American people here, a secure border, sound governance.
00:13:47.000 And it's not helpful to the unity that we have in the body.
00:13:51.000 Well, you don't have unity, first of all, in the body.
00:13:53.000 Second of all, the border's not secure.
00:13:55.000 Third of all, you're not doing your job, man.
00:13:57.000 I say this as somebody who was a cheerleader for you the last 60 days in the sense of really hoping that there was going to be some line in the sand.
00:14:03.000 But when you get betrayed on four things and you have zero wins and you're 0 for 4, what is the defense here?
00:14:11.000 You're not just doing your job.
00:14:12.000 You're doing the regime's job.
00:14:14.000 You are doing the bidding of the worst people in Washington, D.C.
00:14:19.000 And I cherish this document, the U.S. Constitution.
00:14:23.000 I study it.
00:14:25.000 I believe that it should be our North Star to unite our differences.
00:14:30.000 Mike Johnson used to cherish this thing.
00:14:32.000 He was a lawyer for years, a lawyer with ADF.
00:14:38.000 So I know he believes in this.
00:14:40.000 So you just have to wonder who captured him.
00:14:44.000 CNN breaking news reporting saying that Democrats might help protect Mike Johnson stay speaker.
00:14:51.000 Makes you wonder maybe that we should vacate.
00:14:54.000 Play cut 43.
00:14:56.000 And of course, just one member.
00:14:57.000 That's all it takes to actually call for a vote seeking the speaker's ouster here. 0.94
00:15:03.000 The question is: well, Marjorie Joe Green does go this route.
00:15:06.000 Will there be enough support to drive him from the speakership?
00:15:09.000 A number of Democrats are indicating that they will vote to save Mike Johnson, especially if he moves ahead on a Ukraine aid package that is similar to the plan that did pass the Senate.
00:15:19.000 So some of the details are still yet to be hashed out here.
00:15:23.000 It's very simple.
00:15:24.000 What happened?
00:15:25.000 Mike Johnson probably had these deeply held beliefs, and he fell for the Intel Agency song and dance.
00:15:32.000 They bring you down to a skiff.
00:15:34.000 They make you afraid.
00:15:35.000 Oh my goodness, terrorism, 9-11.
00:15:39.000 I don't want to share any private communications I've had with the speaker, but I will tell you the essence of this.
00:15:44.000 The essence is I asked a pointed question.
00:15:47.000 I said, you really think innocent Americans will die if the FBI has to get a warrant for Americans?
00:15:55.000 And he answered bluntly, yes.
00:15:57.000 I refuse to believe that.
00:16:00.000 I refuse to believe that.
00:16:03.000 And they basically took him hostage down in a skiff.
00:16:06.000 And they say, do you want to be responsible for the next 9-11?
00:16:10.000 And by the way, even if that is technically true, that Americans might die because of Fourth Amendment privileges, let's play this out.
00:16:16.000 Well, innocent Americans might die because of Second Amendment rights.
00:16:19.000 Should we get rid of all the guns, Mr. Speaker?
00:16:20.000 People might die because of free speech.
00:16:22.000 Should we get rid of our free speech rights?
00:16:23.000 Liberty comes with a price.
00:16:26.000 And you do not have liberty if you don't have privacy.
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00:16:34.000 What happened?
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00:17:50.000 A couple more thoughts on Mike Johnson, and I want to get to this poll that I think is going to determine the entire 2024 election.
00:17:57.000 One poll that is the most striking, which is he's captured.
00:18:03.000 Mike Johnson is captured.
00:18:04.000 I don't say that lightly.
00:18:06.000 We are willing to cut him slack on the spending stuff.
00:18:08.000 We are willing to cut slack on all these other issues.
00:18:11.000 I am not sure if motion to vacate is the right move, but I get it if you vote for it.
00:18:15.000 I'm not going to pound my, you know, say I disagree because he deserves it.
00:18:19.000 He deserves it.
00:18:21.000 Now, what one deserves and what we should do are two things that we have to try to balance.
00:18:28.000 You see, we need to figure out what does success look like?
00:18:33.000 What does the war we are fighting?
00:18:36.000 What does victory look like?
00:18:37.000 As Sun Tzu says in the art of war, victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.
00:18:47.000 So we need to win the war first.
00:18:49.000 We need to have a plan.
00:18:50.000 But he has earned, for better or for worse, a vacate vote.
00:18:57.000 There is no other proper, just response.
00:19:03.000 This cannot go unresponded to.
00:19:06.000 So what is the plan?
00:19:07.000 What is the replacement?
00:19:09.000 And if the House Republican caucus or conference can come together and say, hey, we're going to motion to vacate.
00:19:14.000 Now, here, understand this.
00:19:16.000 If Democrats are going to save Speaker Johnson from a vacate vote, all it will take is 20 or 30 moderates and he'll remain speaker, which tells you and demonstrates to you that the Democrats want him.
00:19:29.000 Speaker Johnson is doing the bidding of many Democrats.
00:19:33.000 And I mean, our emails are lighting up right now, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:19:37.000 Vacate, vacate, vacate.
00:19:39.000 I see.
00:19:41.000 I see that.
00:19:43.000 If we do it, let's do it right.
00:19:45.000 If we do it, let's make sure we have a replacement.
00:19:47.000 But I feel more passionately, I'll be very honest with you, about this one than the one with Matt Gates and McCarthy.
00:19:53.000 Because the other one, you know, there always could have been, there could have been excuses, there could have been all sorts of different stuff.
00:19:58.000 Now, this one was different.
00:20:02.000 Because in D.C., speakers tend to hide.
00:20:08.000 In D.C., speakers tend to cower.
00:20:14.000 In D.C., speakers tend to retreat.
00:20:19.000 Speaker Johnson leaned in and he was the deciding vote.
00:20:24.000 He was the conclusive vote.
00:20:29.000 And when I see Mike Johnson is captured, I don't necessarily mean that he's blackmailed.
00:20:34.000 I have no evidence of that.
00:20:35.000 He just might be ideologically captured.
00:20:37.000 He might have been bullied and terrified, but captured is captured.
00:20:41.000 And I remember I spoke to a member of Congress very early on.
00:20:44.000 And they said, Charlie, I got a warning sign for you.
00:20:46.000 And I'm constantly talking to these guys.
00:20:49.000 And they said, Mike Johnson just went to the White House and he was bragging about how he got to go into the situation room.
00:20:55.000 I said, ooh, we got a big problem here.
00:20:58.000 We got a big problem.
00:21:02.000 Understand that the trappings of government, the trappings of power, you can get swept up in that.
00:21:09.000 Ooh, you're in the situation room.
00:21:11.000 Bunch of generals sitting around.
00:21:14.000 Get the big live shots of all the different troop deployments.
00:21:19.000 If you are not truly anchored, if you are not ready to defend what is right, true, and beautiful, you'll get swept up in that.
00:21:33.000 But I want to be consistent.
00:21:34.000 Look, there's nothing easier to smash things and to just break them.
00:21:39.000 So he's earned a vacate vote.
00:21:41.000 You got to make sure you have a replacement before you go through this circus, period.
00:21:45.000 Not hope.
00:21:46.000 What is the plan?
00:21:47.000 I'm going to say this to MTG.
00:21:48.000 You better not trigger that vote until you have an actual replacement.
00:21:51.000 And if that means we've got to wait till after the election, then so be it.
00:21:55.000 And if MTG can call in, great.
00:21:57.000 Let's get around here.
00:21:59.000 But I can't defend the indefensible.
00:22:02.000 I cannot defend the indefensible.
00:22:06.000 When you go down as Speaker of the House and you go like you're comedous or Joaquin Phoenix in Gladiator, he's the Roman Emperor.
00:22:17.000 No warrants.
00:22:24.000 You've earned a vacate vote.
00:22:25.000 I hate to say it.
00:22:26.000 Do it right.
00:22:27.000 Don't do it. 0.71
00:22:28.000 The McCarthy thing was a circus that made us look like we can't govern. 0.95
00:22:32.000 We can't figure it out.
00:22:34.000 So once you have a replacement, do it in one vote, not a whole carousel.
00:22:41.000 And if you don't have the votes, then resist the temptation.
00:22:44.000 But we have to be morally clear.
00:22:46.000 You earned a vacate.
00:22:48.000 You cannot, as a Speaker of the House, as a Republican, vote to give the FBI unchecked authority without a warrant after everything we have seen over the last six years.
00:22:59.000 I just have, I want to make sure we're tactically and strategically approaching this correctly.
00:23:05.000 So he's earned a vacate vote.
00:23:07.000 He has.
00:23:09.000 Just do it right.
00:23:10.000 Measure twice and vacate once.
00:23:14.000 Measure twice and vacate once.
00:23:16.000 Oh, we have the live shot of Speaker Johnson here casting the deciding vote.
00:23:24.000 Flight Cut 45.
00:23:44.000 That was better than I thought it was going to be.
00:23:46.000 Very similar to John McCain on the healthcare thing.
00:23:51.000 All right, I want to talk about one of these polls.
00:23:52.000 Email is freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:23:54.000 Very important.
00:23:54.000 I want to get to this.
00:23:55.000 So, interactive polls, 2024, among respondents who voted in the 2018, 2020, 2022 election, America has become less religious in recent years.
00:24:06.000 The new religion of America is politics.
00:24:11.000 Do you know less than 5% of the American population will go to church on a weekly basis?
00:24:16.000 5%.
00:24:18.000 What percent of Americans engage in political matters?
00:24:21.000 Far more than 5%.
00:24:23.000 Five more than 5%.
00:24:26.000 Democrats look at politics as a combination of like sports and religion.
00:24:33.000 It gives them meaning.
00:24:34.000 It gives them entertainment.
00:24:36.000 Republicans are now the low-propensity party, where Democrats are now the high-propensity party.
00:24:43.000 Now, part of this, I'll be honest, and I need Blake to explain this.
00:24:46.000 I'm going to have him come on the show on Friday during the AMA.
00:24:49.000 Doesn't make a lot of sense to me because some of our over-the-top media outperforms theirs.
00:24:55.000 So I'm not quite sure how to make sense of that.
00:24:58.000 And it doesn't mean that this is not correct.
00:25:00.000 It's just our podcasts do better.
00:25:02.000 A lot of our social media channels do better.
00:25:04.000 So I'm not exactly sure where these high propensity people get their media, except for the fact they get it from CBS, New York Times, NBC, ABC, MSNBC.
00:25:15.000 So I suppose that's the answer to that.
00:25:17.000 They have more media, but there's something to unpack there that I don't quite understand.
00:25:21.000 Blake can explain it to me.
00:25:23.000 But politics gives Democrats structure.
00:25:29.000 If just people, according to this poll, if just people who voted in 2018, 2020, and 2022 voted, Joe Biden is up 11 points.
00:25:41.000 Do we have this to show on screen?
00:25:43.000 If just individuals who voted in those three election cycles, Joe Biden does excellent.
00:25:51.000 Voters who only voted once since 2018, Trump is up by 12 points.
00:25:57.000 Voters who have not voted at all in 2018, 2020, or 2022, Trump is up 18 points.
00:26:06.000 Now, this is both very positive news and very chilling news.
00:26:11.000 This goes to show if we do not dramatically and rapidly start registering voters and getting new voters into the fold, Joe Biden is going to win another term.
00:26:21.000 That the more engaged of a voter that you are, the more supportive of Biden you are.
00:26:27.000 And this makes sense.
00:26:28.000 Donald Trump is speaking to the disaffected, the people that are cynical about American politics, people that are not as rich, people that work with their hands, people that might be on the outliers of society.
00:26:40.000 Among people who voted in 2018, 2020, 2022, Joe Biden is up 11 points.
00:26:49.000 For voters who only voted once since 2018, Trump is up by 12 points.
00:26:55.000 And people who have not voted all in the last three elections, Trump is up 18 points.
00:27:01.000 And that ties directly into the first election since 1980 where higher turnout very well might benefit Republicans.
00:27:13.000 And I'm going to go through every single election since 1980 and go through the turnout numbers.
00:27:20.000 And when turnout goes up, it almost, as if it's clockwork, benefits Democrats.
00:27:29.000 Three-star general Michael J. Flynn, head of the Pentagon Intelligence Agency, knew all the government's dirty secrets.
00:27:36.000 He was one of the most respected generals in the military.
00:27:39.000 Flynn knew what the Intel world had been up to.
00:27:41.000 He understood its funding.
00:27:43.000 He ordered the first audit of the use of contractors.
00:27:46.000 This set off alarm bells.
00:27:49.000 The explosive new documentary, Flynn, deliver the truth, whatever the cost, and covers the facts behind this scandal.
00:27:56.000 Flynn told the truth.
00:27:57.000 He was the most dangerous person for Donald Trump to hire.
00:28:01.000 I find out the worst enemy that I'm going to face in my life is right here in America.
00:28:06.000 They took my assessment and they wanted me to change it.
00:28:09.000 And I was like, I'm changing it.
00:28:10.000 They had to get rid of Flynn.
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00:28:32.000 So in 1980, 52% of voters turned out.
00:28:37.000 That was Ronald Reagan's victory.
00:28:39.000 Reagan is the exception, to be honest with you.
00:28:41.000 In 1984, 53.3% of voters turned out.
00:28:45.000 In 1988, when George Herbert Walker Bush won, turnout went down to 50%, benefiting Republicans.
00:28:52.000 In 1992, when William Blythe Clinton became president in 1992, turnout went up to 55%.
00:29:05.000 In 1996, turnout went down, benefiting Bill Clinton, 49%.
00:29:13.000 In year 2000, it hung right around that number at 50% when George W. Bush beat Al Gore.
00:29:20.000 Turnout went up to 55% when George W. Bush won in 2004, 55.7%.
00:29:27.000 From that point forward, we entered a new era of politics.
00:29:30.000 In 2008, turnout spiked up to 57%.
00:29:36.000 Now, it actually didn't spike as much as you would think during the Obama craze.
00:29:40.000 It only went up by two points between 2004 and 2008.
00:29:46.000 In 2012, turnout went down to 53.8%.
00:29:52.000 In 2016, turnout then went up a little bit with Trump to 54%.
00:29:58.000 But the kicker is this.
00:30:00.000 In 2020, turnout was the highest since the 1960 election and the highest since Ronald Reagan at 62%.
00:30:10.000 Now, why?
00:30:10.000 It's because we had mail and ballots everywhere, COVID rules, Zuckerboxes, Zuckerbucks, all that stuff.
00:30:17.000 What polling suggests is that previously, low-propensity, disengaged voters would be tilt Democrat, tilt Obama, tilt that kind of coalition.
00:30:32.000 Now, low-propensity voters, I want you to think about young people, Gen Z, the plumbers, the welders, electricians, the police officers, people that do not show up to every single election, they very well might decide the 2024 election.
00:30:50.000 It's a turnout game.
00:30:52.000 And here's the good news: Donald Trump is a one-man turnout machine.
00:30:57.000 In states like Arizona, it's going to be a question of can we chase down the necessary ballots?
00:31:04.000 Can we find the low-propensity voters?
00:31:07.000 In years past, when turnout would dip, Democrats would not do as well.
00:31:14.000 Obama won primarily by keeping turnout above 52%, right near 53.8%.
00:31:22.000 Trump was able to win even with slightly higher turnout, but turnout in 2016 when Trump voted, oh, Trump won in 2016, was still lower than Obama's victory in 2008.
00:31:32.000 In 2020, though, Joe Biden's win, as I put in air quotes, was at 62% turnout.
00:31:39.000 If we have similar turnout near 58, 59%, that should be advantage Trump.
00:31:46.000 The low-propensity voters are the folks that need to be convinced that their vote is not going to get stolen.
00:31:53.000 They need to be convinced that it's worth it.
00:31:55.000 Our entire messaging campaign needs to be finding the people on the fringes and the edges and getting them to vote.
00:32:05.000 There were 20 million more votes cast in the 2020 election than any other election in history, which is just bananas.
00:32:14.000 Donald Trump is winning with people that didn't even vote.
00:32:16.000 You might say, oh, Charlie, everyone voted in 2020.
00:32:19.000 Do you know that one out of three of eligible adults did not vote in 2020?
00:32:24.000 One out of three.
00:32:26.000 That's pretty amazing.
00:32:29.000 You know that half of people that pull a hunting license do not vote?
00:32:34.000 We need to find these people.
00:32:35.000 That's what we're trying to do at Turning Point Action.
00:32:36.000 Deploy the ballot chasers, register voters, bring them into our ranks. 1.00
00:32:42.000 If the election is just the people that show up every election cycle, advantage Biden and Democrats.
00:32:48.000 Why?
00:32:48.000 They consume a lot of media.
00:32:51.000 They consume a lot of upper-middle-class garbage.
00:32:57.000 But if we're able to increase, widen the base to people that vote sparingly, we have a chance.
00:33:05.000 Higher turnout for the first time since Barack Obama might actually be advantageous Republicans.
00:33:16.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:33:18.000 Email us as alwaysfreedom at charliekirk.com.
00:33:20.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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