The Charlie Kirk Show - Is Joe Biden Leaving a Hyperinflation Land Mine for Trump?

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00:00:00.000 Is Donald Trump going to have hyperinflation if he wins?

00:00:03.000 We talk with Scott Bussin.

00:00:05.000 And also, we talk with Mary Margaret Olihan about her new book, Detrans.

00:00:11.000 How many people have actually detransitioned in this country?

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00:01:31.000 16 Nobel Prize winning economists come out of nowhere and claim Trump will wreck our economy.

00:01:36.000 It feels like when 51 intel agents came out and they said that the Hunter Biden laptop had all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation.

00:01:42.000 What is it with these groups of experts that come into election seasons and try to change the narrative?

00:01:48.000 Very orchestrated, obviously.

00:01:49.000 Well, there is a phenomenal counter op-ed to this.

00:01:54.000 16 Nobel Prize winning economists claim Trump will wreck our economy.

00:01:56.000 This is the reason I don't trust them.

00:01:58.000 One of the first signatures comes from George Akerlof, 2001 Nobel Laureate, who's married to President Biden's Treasury Secretary, Janet Yellen.

00:02:08.000 This is published in foxnews.com.

00:02:10.000 Joining us now to discuss his op-ed as counternet is Scott Bussin.

00:02:14.000 Scott, welcome to the program.

00:02:16.000 Thank you so much for taking the time.

00:02:17.000 Tell us about your op-ed.

00:02:19.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:02:20.000 Ed, thanks for having me.

00:02:22.000 And look, I was outraged by this op-ed.

00:02:24.000 You know, A, as you mentioned, it's dropped, just like the 51 intelligence, whatever they were, expert signature, talking about alleged Russian interference with a laptop.

00:02:43.000 And now this is dropped yesterday.

00:02:46.000 So clearly it could be a talking point Or the debate tomorrow night.

00:02:52.000 And look, here's what's happening.

00:02:54.000 I'm in the investment business.

00:02:57.000 I'm also an academic.

00:02:59.000 But I've been following the new cycle closely around the Biden economy.

00:03:04.000 And we started out with the Biden economy, one, They were going to campaign on Bidenomics, and Bidenomics has been a failure.

00:03:14.000 So then they can't campaign on that.

00:03:18.000 So then they revert to the American people. 0.51

00:03:23.000 They don't understand how good they have it.

00:03:26.000 Even today, the Wall Street Journal published an editorial by Alan Blinder, former vice chairman of the Fed, out of touch Princeton professor, telling Americans The economy is really great.

00:03:38.000 You know, why don't you serfs appreciate us? 0.93

00:03:41.000 And none of that's worked.

00:03:43.000 So now we are at three.

00:03:45.000 And number three is to make up a canard that Trump 2.0 is somehow going to be inflationary and bad for the economy.

00:03:55.000 Which is in complete opposition to what happened during Trump 1.0.

00:03:59.000 Trump 1.0, the first three years before COVID, was some of the strongest growth that we've seen in the past hundred years.

00:04:07.000 So, you know, they're creating this false narrative.

00:04:10.000 And I will add, That the three quarters of this group are the same geniuses, the same geniuses who said that Joe Biden's policies would not cause inflation.

00:04:22.000 And then we got the worst inflation that we've had in the past 40 years.

00:04:26.000 And as you rightly mentioned, the signature at the top of both of those is Professor Ackloff, And he is Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen's husband, and Secretary Yellen had the audacity and the tin ear to say in the past 48 hours that inflation had not affected her personally.

00:04:50.000 Well, yeah, I mean, I would imagine, except that all of her asset prices, the asset prices of her home has gone up.

00:04:56.000 So I want to play this piece of tape for you.

00:04:58.000 It's very powerful, and this is A great example to what we're talking about here.

00:05:04.000 This is just a random guy on TikTok, and it's an extraordinary idea.

00:05:08.000 So on your Walmart app or your Amazon app or your Whole Foods app, it allows you to go back into your history and reorder groceries exactly as you ordered them previously.

00:05:19.000 So two years, this guy goes back into his Walmart app, and he says, okay, I'm gonna go reorder my groceries from two years ago, piece for piece, pound for pound.

00:05:29.000 And watch this, the difference.

00:05:32.000 In price in just two years.

00:05:35.000 I feel like I'm gonna be sick.

00:05:36.000 I just, like, looked through my Walmart history, and I found this, like, um, Walmart order from two years ago for the whole month worth of groceries.

00:05:42.000 45 items cost $126.

00:05:43.000 I feel like I'm going to be sick. I just like looked through my Walmart history and I found this like

00:05:50.000 um Walmart order from two years ago for the whole month worth of groceries. 45 items cost $126.

00:05:59.000 A whole month of groceries just for me basically. But I did notice this reorder

00:06:06.000 all button and I wanted to see how much it would cost now.

00:06:10.000 Now, this order of 45 items for one month would have cost $414. That is four times more. How

00:06:23.000 the f- how? Scott, I don't think they understand. Just another op-ed is going to convince that

00:06:30.000 young man to vote for Joe Biden.

00:06:32.000 Yeah, look, you know, Americans lived experience is very different.

00:06:37.000 And the inflation number that we've gotten, you know, the government statistics, you know, underweight food, they underweight fuel, they don't include the increase in interest costs, you know, we're back to we would be exceeding if we use the same index that was used during Jimmy Carter's time, we would be above the Jimmy Carter misery index.

00:06:59.000 So, you know, I've been saying this is like the Joe 70 show.

00:07:04.000 And, you know, it's probably going to close on November 5th.

00:07:07.000 But this is bad.

00:07:09.000 And just as part of my research, you know, I'm an ordinary guy.

00:07:16.000 I decided to go into two different food banks because I read a couple of months ago that food bank usage in the United States is at a record level.

00:07:30.000 And we're at a record level with 3.9% unemployment.

00:07:35.000 You know, this is recessionary, this is depressionary stuff for this food bank usage.

00:07:40.000 So, you know, I go in, I did my own research, I was talking with the people who run the food banks, and they're saying, well, what's happening is exactly what that young man just said, that the basket of groceries that people had been buying, that they're coming into the food banks to top up.

00:07:57.000 That, you know, if they had $100 a week to spend on groceries, it doesn't go as far as it used to.

00:08:04.000 They would buy the fresh things, milk, vegetables, and then, you know, working class families are having to resort to food bank.

00:08:13.000 And, you know, you have crossed a Rubicon when you do that.

00:08:17.000 People want dignity, and dignity is not going into a food bank.

00:08:23.000 Dignity is not the Secretary of the Treasury telling you that inflation hasn't affected her when there is a record amount of food bank usage.

00:08:33.000 Scott, such powerful commentary.

00:08:36.000 How specifically do you suggest we explain the increase in food and grocery prices from Joe Biden's policies to the increase in prices?

00:08:46.000 The way we do it is this deficit spending spree has flooded the zone with money that we have more dollar bills than valuable products, and so therefore prices go up.

00:08:57.000 How do you recommend, Scott?

00:08:58.000 So, Charlie, that's a great baseline.

00:09:01.000 And the way I explain it is the Biden administration made a choice.

00:09:06.000 The great inflation was a choice and they chose to blow out the deficit, you know, spin, spin, spin.

00:09:13.000 You know, I tell people, you know, young people like you who Believe they're never going to own a home.

00:09:19.000 Joe Biden's Green New Deal ate your home.

00:09:23.000 But as you said, it's these deficits.

00:09:26.000 So the deficits, the way to think about it is the deficits cause a demand shock.

00:09:32.000 What's happened is this regulatory morass that the Biden administration has added on top has caused a supply shock.

00:09:42.000 So, you know, with all these regulations of supplies being withheld from the market, you know, oil prices are higher.

00:09:50.000 So, you know, you get a demand shock, and then you constrict supply, and that's why you got this turbocharged inflation.

00:09:59.000 The genius of President Trump's tax cuts was, you know, there was private sector demand shock, but it was met with deregulation, and that's why from 2017 to 2019, 2020, it was non-inflationary growth.

00:10:10.000 Think of it this way.

00:10:11.000 2019, 2020, it was non-inflationary growth.

00:10:16.000 Think of it this way.

00:10:17.000 In one month, one month, Joe Biden had 9% inflation.

00:10:23.000 That's three times more than three years of Donald Trump.

00:10:28.000 So, you know, again, to finish where we started, for these professors to come out and say that Donald Trump will be inflationary, it just defies all logic.

00:10:37.000 He's going to deregulate, he's going to assert America's energy dominance, and he's going to get these huge deficits under control.

00:10:46.000 So, you know, I just think, and it's a complete meretricious argument, And these folks ought to be ashamed, and we'll see whether it gets quoted on CNN this evening, but I'm sure President Trump will have a very good answer.

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00:12:08.000 I want to play this piece of tape here.

00:12:09.000 So because when I hear experts, experts, experts, when I hear that the economists The Nobel Prize winning economists, they know so much.

00:12:17.000 I am reminded of this Jared Bernstein clip.

00:12:19.000 Have you seen this by any chance?

00:12:21.000 This Jared Bernstein clip.

00:12:22.000 I have.

00:12:23.000 Oh, you have to see this.

00:12:23.000 It's shocking.

00:12:25.000 You're going to love it.

00:12:26.000 And you have to share it with all your friends who have trust in experts.

00:12:29.000 He is the chair of the U.S.

00:12:31.000 Council of Economic Advisers.

00:12:33.000 And he is a very important person.

00:12:35.000 He is a senior fellow, was a senior fellow at the Senior on Budget and Policy Priorities.

00:12:40.000 He is, was Chief Economic Advisor to Joe Biden.

00:12:43.000 So he has a lot of titles and he's in charge of a lot.

00:12:47.000 So this is Jared Bernstein, who was asked a very simple question.

00:12:51.000 Can you explain inflation?

00:12:54.000 Can you explain how money is created?

00:12:56.000 Let's play Cut89.

00:12:57.000 The US government can't go bankrupt because we can print our own money.

00:13:03.000 Like you said, they print the dollar.

00:13:04.000 So why does the government even borrow?

00:13:08.000 Well, again, some of this stuff gets Some of the language and concepts are just confusing.

00:13:21.000 I mean, the government definitely prints money, and it definitely lends that money.

00:13:26.000 The government definitely prints money, and then it lends that money by selling bonds.

00:13:33.000 Is that what they do?

00:13:37.000 Yeah, they sell bonds.

00:13:41.000 Yeah, they sell bonds, right?

00:13:43.000 Since they sell bonds and people buy the bonds and lend them the money.

00:13:45.000 Yeah.

00:13:49.000 reaction.

00:14:11.000 I don't, I don't get it.

00:14:13.000 I don't know what they're talking about.

00:14:14.000 Like, cause it's like the government clearly prints money.

00:14:19.000 It does it all the time and it clearly borrows.

00:14:22.000 Otherwise we wouldn't be having this debt and deficit conversation.

00:14:24.000 So I don't think there's anything confusing there.

00:14:28.000 He is the 31st chair of the council of economic advisors.

00:14:30.000 Your reaction, Scott.

00:14:32.000 I thought the interview was shocking.

00:14:35.000 And even more that someone with his experience couldn't at least slow down the conversation.

00:14:42.000 And I actually don't think that the Biden administration really wants to talk about MMT because they've done it and the Federal Reserve helped them do it.

00:14:52.000 That's why we got this great inflation.

00:14:55.000 You know, I talked about the two pieces, the demand shock from government spending, the constriction of supply with all the Biden regulation.

00:15:03.000 Well, the other party in this was the Federal Reserve, who was buying all the debt that was being issued.

00:15:11.000 And, you know, Charlie, I want to bring up They another report that got dropped coincidentally in time for the debate yesterday was from a group called the Committee for a Balanced Budget.

00:15:22.000 And I don't believe that they are nonpartisan because they actually came out and said the President Trump had created bigger, you know, added more to the national debt Then Joe Biden had, and that's just a fiction.

00:15:35.000 And it is, I would say, Biden's created $10 trillion in debt, and President Trump, including COVID, created less than a third of that.

00:15:45.000 But, you know, this MMT, you know, I always say that it is neither modern, nor monetary, nor a theory.

00:15:54.000 It's been around for a long time.

00:15:56.000 The French tried it. 0.95

00:15:57.000 They ended up, Things went pear-shaped there.

00:16:02.000 They had to sell us Louisiana. 0.89

00:16:04.000 It is not monetary.

00:16:06.000 It is a fiscal policy, and it is not theory, because it was put into practice during the Biden administration.

00:16:13.000 The Fed bought the debt of the U.S.

00:16:15.000 government to hold rates down.

00:16:18.000 And the general premise of modern monetary theory is, imagine the most absurd structure that you could, that the government will spend And the binding constraint on the government is for Congress to stop spending when inflation picks up.

00:16:37.000 Congress to stop spending when inflation picks up.

00:16:39.000 When would that ever happen?

00:16:41.000 So, you know, we have lived through the experience of modern monetary theory, and it failed in practice.

00:16:49.000 And it's a shame that CEA head Bernstein couldn't explain it.

00:16:57.000 Excellent commentary.

00:16:58.000 Scott, thank you so much, and I encourage the audience to check out all of your work.

00:17:02.000 Thank you.

00:17:03.000 Thanks for having me, Troy.

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00:18:07.000 Okay, this is a very important topic.

00:18:10.000 Joining us now is Mary Margaret Olihan, author of the book, Detrans, True Stories and Escaping the Gender Ideology Cult.

00:18:19.000 Mary, welcome to the program.

00:18:20.000 Mary, I want to start our conversation here by playing a piece of tape of something that is still, we're still making sure this is 100% correct, but at least it was a piece of clip that went viral yesterday on Twitter, which is a mother who is not allowed to board a United Airlines plane because she allegedly Mispronouned one of the flight attendants.

00:18:39.000 And by the way, this is totally believable because of the power that the purple-haired jihadists have over our society. 0.58

00:18:45.000 Let's play Cut 86.

00:18:45.000 Hey, so we were denied boarding myself, my 16-month-old son, my mother.

00:18:53.000 They took our luggage on the plane, which has my thyroid medication, which I'll be very sick without, my mother's medication.

00:19:00.000 They basically said, tough luck.

00:19:02.000 And they won't tell me exactly what I said, but What happened, and I will tell you what happened right now, I was speaking to one of the flight attendants and got their pronouns wrong.

00:19:10.000 The other flight attendant didn't like it. 1.00

00:19:12.000 I said, I'm really sorry.

00:19:13.000 They, I, I'm not very versed with pronouns.

00:19:17.000 Um, I was holding my son.

00:19:18.000 He was having a temper tantrum.

00:19:19.000 I had the car seat on my back.

00:19:21.000 I wasn't really focusing on anything except getting my son's car seat on the flight and getting him comfortable and safe and him, um, cause now it's his nap time.

00:19:28.000 You can see he's kind of falling asleep.

00:19:30.000 They're saying that it's a hate crime that I did, that I might not even be able to ever fly United.

00:19:35.000 We don't even know how we're going to get back today.

00:19:37.000 I don't know what to do.

00:19:40.000 This is totally believable.

00:19:42.000 Mary, your reaction and tell us about your book.

00:19:44.000 Yeah, I mean, it's totally believable.

00:19:46.000 This is the kind of thing that is happening more and more, and I would argue we're going to see happen more and more, given the way that these types of issues are handled.

00:19:56.000 Mispronouncing someone, as you so eloquently put it, is becoming a bigger deal than, let's say, you know, praying outside an abortion clinic or, you know, going to the, you know, it's becoming a huge deal.

00:20:12.000 When we're talking about this, this is because this gender ideology has become so prominent. 0.96

00:20:18.000 What I heard from all these detransitioners that I spoke to for my book, people who try to transition then realize that's impossible and went back to living as their normal selves, is that media, activists, lawmakers, doctors, nurses, therapists, all of these people are going with the same ideological line that the most important thing is gender ideology, That if you believe you're trans, everyone else better affirm you or else they hate you and want you dead. 1.00

00:20:46.000 And that lie is very much becoming, I would argue, kind of like a religious sentiment across the U.S. 0.78

00:20:53.000 If you mispronounce someone, that's more outrageous than if you punch them in the face. 0.56

00:20:58.000 And it's not acceptable.

00:20:59.000 It's not true.

00:21:01.000 You know, as Americans, we should be able to go about our daily lives.

00:21:04.000 We shouldn't be forced to say things we don't agree with.

00:21:07.000 And in this case, I don't think this woman even had a strong opinion on the topic. 0.91

00:21:11.000 She seems like she was just trying to take care of her baby and accidentally called this person the wrong pronouns or, you know, the ones they didn't want to be called.

00:21:19.000 But it's part of a larger issue here where we're coming up against people who would like to make gender ideology the religion of the state. 0.96

00:21:28.000 God forbid you teach your children about traditional marriage and Christianity, but if you mispronounce someone, then potentially you could face criminal punishment.

00:21:37.000 And we see this with kids riding scooters across Pride crosswalks.

00:21:42.000 Uh, facing criminal punishments for that.

00:21:44.000 I know in Alexandria Old Town, very close to where I live, they have these massive rainbow crosswalks with a little trans flag at the end of it as well.

00:21:53.000 And that's pretty bizarre to see.

00:21:55.000 And every time I walk by it, I think, gosh, if someone rode a scooter on here, if someone left skid marks on here, They could very well face criminal punishment.

00:22:05.000 And that's insane.

00:22:06.000 You know, if we live in the United States of America, you would never think that we would get to this point.

00:22:11.000 And it's part of the reason that I wrote this book is because I wanted people to understand the real gravity of what we're talking about here.

00:22:18.000 We're not just talking about pronouns.

00:22:20.000 What we're talking about, and by the way, a lot of Americans disagree with the pronoun conversation anyways, But with this gender ideology conversation, we're also talking about doctors and therapists forcing kids down this path, pushing them to believe that they can do the impossible to change their gender.

00:22:38.000 The parents are also being manipulated and confused.

00:22:41.000 And so I thought, look, we're going to tell the real stories of these people.

00:22:45.000 We're going to put them out there.

00:22:46.000 We're going to be graphic.

00:22:47.000 We're going to be honest.

00:22:48.000 We're going to be truthful.

00:22:50.000 And we can let people decide for themselves how they feel about this.

00:22:53.000 So if you read my book and you still support pushing child gender transitions, there's probably something very wrong with you because this is brutal. 0.99

00:23:02.000 It's really brutal and it's very sad, but it's really important.

00:23:06.000 And these detransitioners have been so brave and their voices deserve to be heard.

00:23:10.000 So that's what this is all about.

00:23:12.000 So I have two questions as far as numbers.

00:23:16.000 How many children in the last decade under the age of 18 have undergone irreversible damage?

00:23:22.000 Do we have an approximation?

00:23:24.000 And how many detransitioners do we know of? 1.00

00:23:28.000 So this is a huge problem.

00:23:29.000 We don't have good numbers on these things because, uh, for starters, most kids who, well, most young people who detransition don't go back to their doctors and tell them.

00:23:41.000 Why?

00:23:41.000 Because it's almost like if you were abused, you know, as a young person, uh, and you were repeatedly abused by an adult and you went back to the adult and said, Hey, I don't like that you abused me.

00:23:52.000 I don't want you to abuse me anymore.

00:23:54.000 That's kind of a similar situation in that these doctors and therapists convinced these kids to go this route.

00:24:00.000 They said, this will make you happier.

00:24:02.000 This is going to cure your gender dysphoria. 0.81

00:24:04.000 This is going to solve all your issues.

00:24:06.000 So these kids trusted them.

00:24:08.000 They relied on them.

00:24:09.000 they went through, let's say puberty blockers, they went through hormones, so testosterone for girls, 1.00

00:24:14.000 estrogen for guys, maybe even went through surgeries.

00:24:17.000 So that would be, let's say a double mastectomy for a girl where she gets her breasts removed. 1.00

00:24:21.000 For a boy, maybe he gets breasts added, they're not actually being added because they're not real,

00:24:26.000 but, and then potentially genital surgeries, hysterectomies, it goes on and on.

00:24:31.000 And so at this point, you know, once they've gone down this path

00:24:34.000 and they've really trusted these doctors, for them to be recorded as Z transitioners, 0.65

00:24:40.000 they would have to go to the doctor and say, I regret this.

00:24:43.000 I'm no longer living as a transgender individual.

00:24:46.000 And the doctors would have to accurately record this.

00:24:49.000 Now, there's a bunch of problems here.

00:24:52.000 Most of these young people are afraid to do this.

00:24:55.000 They don't want to go back to their doctors and tell them.

00:24:57.000 They want to kind of just fade away, not interact with that abuser type of relationship anymore.

00:25:02.000 B, the doctors are not honest about it.

00:25:05.000 And I asked the detransitioners about this. 1.00

00:25:07.000 They said that the doctors, they view a detransitioner coming back and saying that they're detransitioning as a sign that they failed.

00:25:14.000 You know, they believe this gender ideology.

00:25:16.000 They're promoting this gender ideology. 0.97

00:25:18.000 So they don't want to hear about someone that's saying, Oh, actually, everything you're doing is a lie, and you're hurting kids, and I am living witness of it.

00:25:27.000 So what they—they don't want to hear this.

00:25:29.000 What they'll probably say is, oh, this is just part of your gender journey, which is what they told a couple of the people that I spoke with.

00:25:36.000 And then the final point is, when you read a mainstream media article on this, or I like to say establishment media article on this, on detransitioning, what they will always say is that less than 1% of transgender youth or transgender people regret their gender transition.

00:25:55.000 That is a lie.

00:25:56.000 It's a misleading statistic.

00:25:58.000 They know it is.

00:25:59.000 They don't care.

00:25:59.000 And what they're talking about there is a large group of people who currently identify as transgender.

00:26:06.000 So they're living transgender lifestyles. 1.00

00:26:08.000 That group got polled and asked, Do you regret your gender transition?

00:26:12.000 And of course, since they're all living as transgender individuals and they like their lifestyle, they all said, no, we don't regret our gender transitions.

00:26:20.000 And that's the statistic that's trotted out when we talk about detransitioners, which is dishonest and it's, you know, exactly the way the media usually works.

00:26:28.000 What would be more honest is if you polled real detransitioners and said, do you regret what you went through? 1.00

00:26:35.000 I would guarantee you the numbers would be much higher but unfortunately we don't have that kind of statistics because people aren't willing to do the kind of research that will contradict the going narrative.

00:26:46.000 Lisa Littman is a researcher who's really amazing.

00:26:49.000 She did a study on detransitioners several years ago.

00:26:52.000 She's one of the only ones that has done this and she found that it was less than 30 percent, under 30 percent of detransitioners went back and told their doctors That they actually detransition.

00:27:03.000 So that's a long ramble, but that's the gist of why we have such bad numbers on this topic.

00:27:09.000 And you know, there's a huge portion of detransitioners, based on what I've heard from the people I've talked to and my own research on this, there's a huge population out there that's just not saying anything.

00:27:19.000 They want to resume their lives.

00:27:20.000 They've been traumatized by this awful experience, but they want to go back to living their lives.

00:27:26.000 They want to go under the radar.

00:27:27.000 They don't want attention.

00:27:28.000 They don't want to draw the hate of the transgender community.

00:27:32.000 Which, you know, if you speak out, you will incur.

00:27:34.000 And so they're hoping to just go back to normal lives.

00:27:38.000 And so it's a very challenging situation.

00:27:40.000 And I respect the bravery of people like Chloe Cole, Preisha Mosley, Helena Kirshner, Luca Hine, Abel Garcia.

00:27:49.000 Those are the five main people whose storylines I follow in my book.

00:27:53.000 And, you know, I think we can all applaud their bravery in speaking out, given what they've been through, how intimate and vulnerable their stories are, and the hate and vitriol that they get from the transgender community, from pro-trans lawmakers, just for daring to say, I didn't want this to happen, or I regret that this happened, and I'm sharing my story.

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00:29:16.000 Very important new book here, D-Trans, and the author is Mary Margaret Olihan, senior

00:29:24.000 reporter for Daily Signal.

00:29:25.000 The true stories of escaping the gender ideology cult.

00:29:28.000 You call it a cult.

00:29:29.000 Tell us why, Mary.

00:29:30.000 Well, I actually double-checked this word with the detransitioners in my book because I wanted to make sure that they were going to be comfortable with this really strong language.

00:29:38.000 They told me they were completely on board with it, and I'll tell you why.

00:29:41.000 It's because the way in which they are drawn into this craziness You know, as young kids, they're online, they're feeling lonely, at school they're not really fitting in, maybe they're on the autism spectrum, which is very common with kids who identify as transgender, and so they're looking for an identity, a way to fit in, and these gender activists find them online, and unfortunately, very much love-bomb them, tell them that they're so special, they're so amazing, because they are allegedly trans, 0.62

00:30:11.000 And they draw them into this cult-like atmosphere where they're told, if anyone doesn't affirm you, including your parents, they hate you and they want you dead.

00:30:20.000 And it's a very insular community where they tell each other, you're amazing, you're so brave, you're so persecuted.

00:30:27.000 And they all become kind of part of this victim class, which is not something we talk about enough.

00:30:34.000 You know, a lot of these straight white kids are very interested in being part of a victim class where they can finally feel good about themselves instead of feeling like an aggressor. 0.54

00:30:43.000 And, you know, so once they ultimately go through these horrible procedures and come out the other side and realize, wait, I'm not happy.

00:30:50.000 I am still in a terrible place.

00:30:53.000 Then they might say, Hey, I wish I didn't do this.

00:30:56.000 This hurt me.

00:30:57.000 It might hurt other people.

00:30:58.000 And at that point they're completely cut off. 0.84

00:31:00.000 They're thrown out of the transgender community. 1.00

00:31:02.000 They're told, They were never trans, that they're hateful, that they don't care about people, that they're bigoted, all these terrible things.

00:31:10.000 And, you know, it's very cult-like to me, and I think the way in which these doctors and therapists treat the whole topic is almost like, well, it is an ideology, but it's almost like a religion, you know?

00:31:22.000 Where we're talking about an issue that is very much up for debate, in fact, very anti-science when we boil it down.

00:31:30.000 But it's treated as if it must be true without very little scientific evidence, research, or able to corroborate most things.

00:31:40.000 And so it's, you know, that might be what we might say about certain things like our belief in God or our understanding of certain tenets of our faith.

00:31:49.000 Some of it you do have to just believe.

00:31:51.000 But when it comes to gender ideology, that's not the case, and yet it's kind of still what we're told.

00:31:56.000 And so there's a lot of different aspects here that made me feel like this was the word to use here to help people understand the real gravity of what we're talking about.

00:32:06.000 In closing here, Mary, how do we defeat it?

00:32:08.000 How do we stop this child cruelty and butchering?

00:32:12.000 What is the path forward?

00:32:13.000 Well, I think that telling the stories of detransitioners is an amazing way to get this out there. 1.00

00:32:18.000 You know, the New York Times just did this massive story yesterday where they revealed that the Biden administration had worked with top transgender experts to remove age limits to get transgender surgeries.

00:32:33.000 And I think that shows you, I mean, among many other things, we could talk about that all day, It shows you the extent of this absolute malpractice where these activists are working with lawmakers and other officials to silence dissent, to push this ideology, and to make it more accessible to kids.

00:32:51.000 So sharing the stories of kids that have gone through this and then deeply regret it, I think is the best way to really help people understand the reality of what's going on.

00:33:00.000 And, you know, sharing them in a truthful way.

00:33:03.000 You know, I found that especially with this issue, you know, there's absolutely something to be said for coming at it in a partisan angle.

00:33:10.000 But with these stories, you don't really even need to do that.

00:33:13.000 You can just be very blunt and say this 15-year-old girl had her breasts removed before she had ever kissed anyone or held hands with a boy.

00:33:20.000 She was not able to fully give informed consent.

00:33:22.000 This other girl who had her breasts removed was so anorexic that she was excited to lose eight pounds through her Surgery and none of the mental health professionals she talked to had even thought to bring this up. 0.99

00:33:33.000 These kinds of details just horrify people, you know, like this little boy went on puberty blockers and his genitals were never able to grow.

00:33:41.000 So now he will always have shrunken genitals.

00:33:44.000 It's just it's horrific and it's sad and I feel unladylike talking about it, but we kind of have to, you know, we need to shock people out of their apathy and help them understand this is real.

00:33:54.000 It's not just some clickbait story.

00:33:56.000 And it could happen to your own kids.

00:33:57.000 So let's talk about it.

00:33:59.000 Let's be really honest and let's share the stories of detransitioners and the truth.

00:34:06.000 Mary, excellent work.

00:34:07.000 Check out the book, Detrans.

00:34:08.000 Thank you so much.

00:34:10.000 Thank you.

00:34:13.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:14.000 Email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:34:17.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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