00:00:04.000It is the crisis of speech in the West has come to a music streaming app called Spotify.
00:00:11.000Joe Rogan is the most popular podcaster on the planet.
00:00:13.000And if you are not a fan of his or know about him, this is still an important episode for you to listen to because this illustrates other cultural dynamics that will impact your life, your grandchildren's life, our culture, our civilization.
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00:01:22.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:30.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:05.000Well, I should say I always have been.
00:02:07.000For the last couple of years, I have been.
00:02:09.000Probably one of the most amazing college football seasons ever at LSU and won the Heisman undefeated and is now one of the best NFL quarterbacks out there.
00:02:21.000And he will be in the Super Bowl against the Los Angeles Rams in their come from behind victory against the 49ers.
00:02:28.000I know I'm not supposed to be watching football and I get all these people.
00:03:52.000Was a little bit too caustic for me, a little bit too much debauchery and swearing, and there's still a fair share of that.
00:04:01.000But I think that's actually been toned down in the last couple of years and months, especially.
00:04:06.000Joe Rogan, to his great credit, though, has always been an ambassador of free speech and heterodox ideas.
00:04:13.000He has been willing to talk about things such as UFOs, aliens, the potential medical benefits of mushrooms, ancient samurai culture and history.
00:04:26.000I mean, every topic you could possibly imagine Joe Rogan has covered.
00:04:33.000And Joe Rogan has had conversations about religion and politics.
00:04:54.000And Joe Rogan has always kind of been a man's man.
00:04:58.000In some sense, Joe Rogan has filled kind of a friendship archetype for a lot of people that are very lonely, especially young men that are very lonely, where they could put on their headphones and they feel as if they get to almost put on the Harry Potter invisibility cloak and listen to Joe Rogan having a whiskey and smoking weed with some of his friends.
00:05:17.000And in some ways, that is the brilliance of the Joe Rogan experience.
00:05:21.000The Joe Rogan experience is kind of so impactful, not just because I think Joe's really smart, because I do think he's really smart, because he's honest about what he knows and what he doesn't know, which is kind of this unassuming approach he has where he doesn't really debate his guess.
00:05:38.000He's just like, yeah, I don't know much about that.
00:05:41.000But it's also, it's because they're in such long form and almost the guest forgets he's actually on camera.
00:05:51.000One of the more famous Joe Rogan moments ever, I don't want to say put him on the map because he was definitely on the map before it, but definitely got Wall Street involved was when Elon Musk, about two-thirds of the way through one of Joe Rogan's episodes, kind of took a hit of weed with him.
00:06:09.000Tesla's stock went down and there was, I think there were investigations.
00:06:14.000There was all sorts of things that happened after that.
00:06:17.000There were calls for Elon to resign and Elon was also, I think, sipping whiskey throughout that.
00:06:23.000That's actually one of the more interesting episodes ever.
00:06:25.000Joe Rogan had Alex Jones on multiple times.
00:06:31.000Now, having Alex Jones on will definitely make you a recipient of heavy criticism from the regime media.
00:06:39.000But if you really want to get the media upset at you, if you want to get the pharmaceutical companies upset at you, have Dr. McCullough and Dr. Malone on.
00:06:49.000Now, you might say, Charlie, I don't get this Rogan thing.
00:07:49.000Now, Joe Rogan does not have a massive news network behind him.
00:07:53.000Joe Rogan does not own a cable news channel.
00:07:55.000No, it's Joe Rogan in kind of what's called a man cave in the hills of Texas, used to be in Los Angeles, just kind of sits with really interesting people and talks for three hours, four hours, five hours.
00:08:06.000Now, about a year and a half ago, Joe Rogan signed a record contract with Spotify.
00:08:12.000Joe Rogan used to post his content everywhere, used to post it on YouTube, used to post it on Apple Podcast in particular.
00:08:19.000He was consistently one of the top podcasts on Apple Podcast.
00:08:23.000Spotify came to him, though, with a record-breaking contract.
00:08:27.000I think it was $100 million signing bonus, basically, not to mention some of the ad revenue and some of the other incentives saying, hey, you're exclusively going to come to Spotify.
00:08:37.000Now, at the time, this seemed like a great deal for Spotify.
00:08:40.000Mike Tarico, thank you from Football Night in America.
00:09:00.000And Spotify is mostly and mainly a music streaming service used by a lot of different people, very popular, and has grown throughout the years.
00:09:10.000Acquiring the exclusive rights of Joe Rogan seemed to make all the sense in the world until Joe Rogan started to say things that the employees and the stakeholders of Spotify did not like.
00:09:24.000And so there's this dilemma that has kind of, let's say, hit the shores of Spotify's island, which is how do we deal with a problem like Joe Rogan?
00:09:35.000Kind of like, how do you deal with a problem like Maria?
00:09:37.000But the difference is that there really shouldn't be a problem.
00:09:41.000They signed Joe Rogan under the belief that this was going to be the free speech kind of rough around the edges, swearing, talking about things that you might not want your nine or 10 year old to talk about.
00:09:55.000I'm not endorsing every episode of the Joe Rogan experience.
00:09:58.000There are some incredibly graphic, quasi-Howard Stern episodes of the Joe Rogan experience of people that have lived very colorful lives.
00:10:06.000But there are other episodes of the Joe Rogan experience that, if you edit it out for swear words, are incredibly interesting and intellectually pure.
00:10:13.000That's just, you don't know what you're going to get.
00:10:15.000You don't know what mood the guests are going to be in.
00:10:17.000You don't know where the topics are going to go.
00:10:19.000The kind of unexpected, unscripted element of Joe Rogan makes it real and authentic, which is why it's been so successful.
00:10:26.000But Joe Rogan, having Dr. Peter McCullough and Dr. Robert Malone on his program, all of a sudden has completely disrupted the matrix because he circumvented the Facebook fact checkers, the YouTube Gestapo, all the people that were previously able to censor ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, and skepticism around the vaccine.
00:10:49.000Joe Rogan found a way to get that truth out to 130 million people outside of the gatekeepers.
00:10:57.000And for Spotify, that's just kind of been used to streaming Mariah Carey's Christmas song, they did not have the infrastructure or they have no idea what they just put themselves in the middle of.
00:11:08.000And that includes Joe Rogan as well, by the way.
00:11:10.000And so Spotify is now the boxing ring of the fight for free speech in the West and whether or not we'll be able to openly communicate.
00:11:48.000Sent a letter telling his management team and record label that Spotify would have to choose between hosting his music and hosting the hugely popular podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:11:57.000So basically, Neil Young became like an Iranian hostage taker.
00:12:02.000He's like, either you take me or I'm going, you give me like a plane full of cash or I'm going to shoot the hostages.
00:12:10.000And so Neil Young says, it continues, and alleges that Rogan had broadcast inaccuracies about COVID-19, including hosting guests who plugged ivermectin as an effective treatment by portraying vaccines unnecessary for young people.
00:12:27.000Now, might I add that there's a new study out of Japan that the media is ignoring.
00:13:31.000Spotify, Young wrote, could have Rogan or Young, not both.
00:13:36.000Well, Spotify picked the podcaster over the musician.
00:13:40.000On the Beach, Old Man, and most of the rest of Young's gorgeous warbling catalog as a lead artist is no longer available to Spotify's 381 million users.
00:13:52.000The Joe Rogan Experience, a chat show about subjects such as health, society, mixed martial arts, and aliens remains available.
00:13:59.000In a statement, this is what the most amazing part of the statement is, and this is where this shows you exactly where this is going to go.
00:14:54.000Again, I don't know who that is, but I know her music.
00:14:57.000So just kind of, you go to enough department stores and restaurants and gyms and watch enough movies, you hear all this music or watch advertisements.
00:15:05.000You just don't put two and two together.
00:15:25.000If you put Neil Young, Chuck Schumer, Howard Stern, Nancy Pelosi, all in a room, Joni Mitchell, these are all kind of has been Late 70 and early 80-year-old, dare I say, kind of nasty and mean people that want society to conform to the last gasp of their wishes.
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00:17:15.000Why American life went on as normal during the killer pandemic of 1969?
00:17:20.000At Woodstock, those that look back, people got very sick.
00:17:24.000There was an H3N2, otherwise known as the Hong Kong flu, was an influenza strain that the New York Times described as one of the worst in the nation's history.
00:17:33.000The first case of H3N2, which evolved from H2N2 influenza strain, caused the 1957 pandemic, was reported in mid-July 1968 in Hong Kong.
00:17:44.000By September, it had infected Marines returning to the states from the Vietnam War.
00:17:47.000By mid-December, the Hong Kong flu had arrived in all 50 states.
00:17:52.000But schools were not shut down nationwide, other than a few dozen of too many sick teachers.
00:17:57.000Face masks were not required or even common.
00:17:59.000Though Woodstock was not held during the peak months, it was still had during, it was still during the pandemic as we know it.
00:18:06.000The festival went ahead when the virus was still active and had no known cure.
00:18:11.000Quote, I wish they had social distancing, joked one attendee.
00:18:16.000Life continued as normal, Jeffrey Tucker said, but as with now, no one knew for certain how deadly it would turn out to be, regardless people went on with their lives.
00:18:26.000Over a million people worldwide died of the Hong Kong flu, and it was probably even more than that because we didn't have good testing and there's all sorts of differences there.
00:18:34.000CIA director Alan Dulles was killed by the H3N2 flu, as was Hitchcock actress Tallulah Bankhead.
00:18:48.000But of course, Woodstock went on without a hitch.
00:18:51.000Now, first of all, for those who actually know the history of Woodstock, it was a disaster.
00:18:55.000Mudslides, no food, terrible hygiene, rapes, incest, orgies, drug use.
00:19:02.000It has been so, let's just say, disgustingly romanticized by a certain generation of people that look at that as like this wonderful moment actually was disgusting.
00:19:16.000If you actually look at pictures, not like the pictures where everyone kind of looks like they're in some sort of John Lennon song, it was a catastrophe.
00:19:23.000But they look at it as this big positive because I don't know why.
00:19:29.000They called it three days of peace, love, and happiness.
00:19:33.000But anyway, why am I talking about Woodstock?
00:19:35.000Well, because Neil Young, the very guy who is now taking his music off of Spotify and Joni Mitchell, who's also taking music off of Spotify, they participated in a super spreader mass orgy event when they were young, but now they don't want the younger Joe Rogan to try to find the truth out.
00:19:56.000How does one, this is a very interesting question.
00:20:00.000By the way, this pertains to Howard Stern as well, by the way.
00:20:04.000How does someone like Howard Stern and Neil Young go from the live and let live, kind of risk-taking, embracing, drug-using, sexual anarchist?
00:20:17.000How do they go from that to if you dare have a doctor on your podcast that is published and has nine patents and says something I don't like, I'm going to remove my music.
00:20:31.000It does kind of play into that theme, though, isn't it?
00:20:34.000That the last chapter in the book of liberalism is totalitarianism.
00:20:50.000And then it ends in Neil Young, in the last chapter of his book of liberalism, says, if you dare disagree with me, if you have a doctor I don't like, I'm going to pull my music.
00:21:06.000So Spotify is not really sure how to handle this.
00:22:51.000The podcast has been accused of spreading dangerous misinformation, specifically about two episodes, a little bit about some other ones, but specifically about two.
00:23:01.000One with Dr. Peter McCullough and one with Dr. Robert Malone.
00:23:06.000Both these people are very highly credentialed, very intelligent, very accomplished people, and they have an opinion that's different from the mainstream narrative.
00:23:15.000I wanted to hear what their opinion is.
00:23:17.000And so he then talks about how Dr. Malone and Dr. McCullough came on his program.
00:23:27.000And then he says, well, next time I need to try to have a countering voice to Dr. Malone and Dr. McCullough.
00:23:32.000And I totally disagree with Joe Rogan there.
00:23:34.000The whole point of your show is not to try to have the consensus voice.
00:23:38.000Do you need to have the anti-alien voice on if you also have the alien voice on?
00:23:42.000Do you need to have like the anti-psychedelic mushroom person if you have the pro-psychedelic mushroom person?
00:23:47.000The whole point, Joe, is that your show is usually an incubator for heterodox ideas.
00:23:53.000And look, I do think it's important to have for Joe's purposes every once in a while, you know, that goon that calls himself a doctor, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, who's an idiot.
00:24:05.000He has this whole like COVID World War III or whatever his name, you know, stupid thing.
00:24:10.000While they call Ivermectin a horse dewormer and Japanese phase three trials are saying that ivermectin actually helps in antiviral replication and can help against the spread of the virus.
00:24:22.000History will show that we were on the right side of this.
00:24:25.000But I just, I think Joe is hedging a little bit too much.
00:24:27.000Now, the people are speculating, why is Joe Rogan doing this?
00:24:32.000Why is he going towards the middle and all this?
00:24:34.000Some people said it's just because of the money.
00:25:01.000So I think it's wrong to just kind of mischaracterize him.
00:25:05.000But I think that Joe Rogan probably, this is probably fair, has got himself into a fight that I don't think he quite wanted, which is a fight that is involving the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, George Soros.
00:25:18.000It's kind of like Joe Rogan is the radio frequency to the rebellion of the great reset.
00:25:24.000And Joe Rogan's like, whoa, yo, yo, yo, I'm like, we're the mushroom show.
00:26:51.000So Rogan continues Cut 19 to defend himself, play Cut 19.
00:26:55.000I had them on, and because of that, those episodes in particular, those episodes were labeled as being dangerous.
00:27:04.000They had dangerous misinformation in them.
00:27:07.000The problem I have with the term misinformation, especially today, is that many of the things that we thought of as misinformation just a short while ago are now accepted as fact.
00:27:17.000All of those theories that at one point in time were banned were openly discussed by those two men that I had on my podcast that have been accused of dangerous misinformation.
00:27:28.000This is the strongest point of a selfie video.
00:27:30.000For about a minute and a half, Joe Rogan goes through the origin of the virus, leaky vaccines, all these things that were once labeled misinformation, very intelligently and very calmly goes through all of that.
00:27:44.000Things that were once considered conspiracy theories, lab leak, Wuhan Institute of Virology, leaky vaccines, cloth masks, ivermectin, are now considered to be consensus.
00:27:54.000So basically, everything that we on this program have been diving into, not just our program, though, Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, is now all of a sudden being considered a threat to free speech, misinformation, disinformation.
00:28:43.000And we actually, we did say, I don't know if we said this on our show, but we said it internally.
00:28:48.000The downside of signing that big deal with Spotify is that he very well might have put himself in a corner to allow them to control what he was going to say.
00:28:58.000So far, that's not true, but they are now going to be adding disclaimers to his episodes.
00:29:04.000They're going to be adding pre-roll saying COVID-19 is very serious and talk to your doctor before any of this information.
00:29:12.000If anyone could break away from the corporate media, it's Joe Rogan.
00:29:17.000Establish his own company and do his own thing.
00:29:20.000Joe's going to have to choose at some point whether he likes it or not.
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00:33:23.000Springsteen has a massive Spotify deal with Obama, actually, for a podcast they co-host.
00:33:29.000So it's probably not going to pull anytime soon.
00:33:31.000But one other story I wanted to cover here: Lindsey Graham said nominating a black woman to the Supreme Court would make it look more like America, not affirmative action.
00:33:41.000Lindsey Graham has rejected the idea that Biden tapping a black woman for SCOTUS is affirmative action.
00:33:47.000The senator said the president had a wealth of qualified candidates to choose from.
00:33:53.000Senator Roger Wicker said a black female nominee would be a beneficiary of affirmative action.
00:33:59.000Lindsey Graham on Sunday refuted the notion.
00:34:02.000He said, we need to make the court look more like America.
00:34:07.000Why the heck does how you look matter, Lindsey Graham?
00:34:12.000Let me ask you a question, and every single conservative would answer this the same way.
00:34:17.000Would you rather have nine justices that were white and as liberal as Ruth Bader Ginsburg, or nine justices that were black and as conservative as Clarence Thomas?
00:34:35.000The most conservative justice on the court is Clarence Thomas, alongside Neil Gorsuch and Alito.
00:34:44.000Why is Lindsey Graham caring about identity politics?
00:34:47.000Why is he playing into the retribalization?
00:34:51.000Instead, Lindsey Graham, the Republican minority chairman of the House of the Senate Judiciary Committee, very well might be in the majority soon, should be like, it's irrelevant.
00:35:04.000I do not want to see nominees based on melanin content.
00:35:08.000If they're smart, we'll hear about them.
00:35:10.000If they're qualified, we'll hear from them.
00:35:13.000So Lindsey Graham is saying to the American people, you're so stupid that you must have a higher representation of melanin content.
00:35:26.000What good are Republicans if they just recycle Democrat talking points to try to win favor from CBS?
00:35:35.000Thank you so much for listening, everybody.