The Charlie Kirk Show - Is Obama a Gay Cokehead? with Jack Posobiec and Natalie Winters

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:01.000 This is Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show, filling in behind the microphone before Charlie, who is on a much needed break.

00:00:09.000 He's on assignment, but never fear, the show must go on.

00:00:12.000 We have Jack Pasobic.

00:00:14.000 We break down Tucker's explosive interview that's been going viral.

00:00:18.000 He talks about was Obama gay?

00:00:20.000 Was he doing drugs with people?

00:00:22.000 Why the media didn't cover it?

00:00:24.000 Tucker has some really impressive insights.

00:00:26.000 And Jack and I both offer our own perspective on that as people that are familiar with the way this political world works.

00:00:33.000 And then I bring on Natalie Winters, and we talk about China.

00:00:37.000 We talk about their ties.

00:00:38.000 We talk about their paid for and bought for propaganda campaigns that are existing and operating within the United States right now.

00:00:45.000 And we also talk about how the U.S. government is currently ramping up its COVID response ahead of 2024 and what it means for that important election.

00:00:54.000 Buckle up.

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00:02:46.000 Absolutely.

00:02:47.000 Okay, so here's where we're going.

00:02:49.000 Jack, you tweeted about this.

00:02:51.000 I wanted to have you on to talk about it.

00:02:53.000 Very important.

00:02:54.000 This is a clip that is now going around the world.

00:02:58.000 142.

00:02:59.000 I'm going to start with 142 and then I'm going to talk about the one you tweeted out, actually.

00:03:02.000 So we're going to go in reverse order.

00:03:04.000 Let's play 142.

00:03:05.000 The media is reporting on government, but it's also dependent on government. 0.95

00:03:09.000 You know, in 2008, it became really clear that Barack Obama had been having sex with men and smoking crack.

00:03:16.000 And a guy came forward, Larry Sinclair, and said, I'll sign an affidavit.

00:03:19.000 And he did.

00:03:20.000 And he did.

00:03:20.000 I'll take a lie detector.

00:03:21.000 I smoked crack with Barack Obama and had sex with him. 0.99

00:03:24.000 Well, that was obviously true.

00:03:26.000 Nobody reported it, not because they were squeamish about sex or drugs, but because the Obama campaign said anyone who reports on this gets no access to the Obama campaign.

00:03:37.000 And so they didn't report on it.

00:03:39.000 So that happens.

00:03:40.000 That's just one small example, but that happens all the time with lots of different issues.

00:03:45.000 All right, Jack, there's a lot to unpack here.

00:03:47.000 There's a lot to unpack here.

00:03:49.000 And now, you are, let's just say you're a DC insider, but on the good team.

00:03:54.000 All right.

00:03:54.000 You have sources within the White House.

00:03:56.000 Some of your tweets, I mean, have been the most prescient things that you can imagine.

00:04:00.000 You've called it out.

00:04:01.000 You've predicted it.

00:04:03.000 You know how the influence peddling works in DC.

00:04:07.000 So he's talking about access here.

00:04:09.000 He's talking about Obama.

00:04:10.000 I think the headline, everybody's fixating on the Obama piece.

00:04:13.000 But explain what he said there and how that jives with your own experience.

00:04:18.000 So you don't even need to go all the way to Tucker Carlson to understand this because Ben Rhodes, who was the deputy national security advisor to Barack Obama, actually explained this once in an interview.

00:04:18.000 Right.

00:04:30.000 He said, look, we'll go and do these briefings, these press briefings.

00:04:34.000 And he would take a briefing, say the Iran deal.

00:04:37.000 So he was talking about the Iran deal in this one situation.

00:04:40.000 By the way, Biden's trying to bring that back.

00:04:42.000 People really haven't noticed because it's kind of been under the radar with everything else going on.

00:04:46.000 They're trying to actually bring the Iran nuclear deal back right now.

00:04:48.000 More pallets of cash.

00:04:49.000 We'll see how that goes.

00:04:51.000 But he said, what we would do then is hold a Skype call with like 20 journalists, and every single one of them was like some 20-something that didn't have any experience in reporting or any experience in the real world other than hanging out on a campaign bus, which is something that journalists do when they're kind of getting their feet wet.

00:05:12.000 It's a tradition in politics, especially in presidential years.

00:05:16.000 You go to Iowa, you go to New Hampshire, you hang out on the bus.

00:05:19.000 So they didn't know any, they were not Iran experts.

00:05:22.000 They weren't nuclear experts.

00:05:24.000 They weren't foreign policy experts.

00:05:26.000 And so he actually said, you can tell them whatever you want and they will write down whatever it is.

00:05:33.000 This, by the way, and Tucker goes on to explain later in the same interview with Adam Carolla there, that this trickles all the way up to top CNN anchors like Wolf Blitzer because they end up getting their quote unquote, you know, off the record sources, exclusive national security source.

00:05:52.000 What does that mean?

00:05:52.000 An exclusive national security source means that there's someone from the Intel agency that has decided they want a narrative to come out on CNN or on MSNBC or whatever it is.

00:06:06.000 And by the way, the same thing happens on Fox News because they'll walk over and say, we want this narrative out.

00:06:11.000 So you can say three Intel sources, four Intel sources, whatever it is, or Intel sources have told CNN that there were no soldiers killed in Afghanistan or that it's perfectly safe for Joe Biden to pull out, whatever it is, anything like this.

00:06:26.000 Or if you remember the actual, they don't even talk about this.

00:06:28.000 It happened two years ago when Fox News falsely reported that it was Jen Griffin who that the terrorists that attacked Abbey Gate were later taken out in a drone strike.

00:06:40.000 It was completely false.

00:06:41.000 It ended up being some Afghan aid worker.

00:06:42.000 So what I mean to say is this can all be spread around, but we're talking about how the sausage is made with access journalism.

00:06:48.000 So what Tucker is talking about here is a specific incident with Barack Obama as pertains to his campaign, as pertains to his entire White House, which really set the stage for what we see in terms of access journalism.

00:07:03.000 Now, it started during the Bush years.

00:07:05.000 And yes, there have been persistent stories about Barack Obama and his, shall we say, sex life while he was in college.

00:07:16.000 I think safe to say experimentation, I think is the right word, gender fluidity, maybe.

00:07:21.000 But these stories have been out there and it's been ex-girlfriends, people who claimed that they were ex-boyfriends, letters that he wrote that have been authenticated, and yet none of it was able to get reported outside of like at the time, the burgeoning, it was kind of nascent, but the blogosphere was just getting going.

00:07:37.000 Remember, this is 2007, 2008.

00:07:40.000 That's when the blogosphere was getting going.

00:07:42.000 Breitbart was just getting started.

00:07:44.000 James O'Peef, Project Veritas was just getting started in the same period.

00:07:47.000 So you would see stories there, but it wasn't yet at the same maturity now that we see with social media.

00:07:53.000 So these narratives never really broke out of those little silos.

00:07:58.000 Yeah, I think it's safe to say, Jack, I think that's a good point.

00:08:01.000 I think today's media landscape with Real America's Voice, conservative radio, shows like yours, the Charlie Kirk show, this narrative would have gotten out there a lot in a lot more force.

00:08:14.000 And it's not really a narrative.

00:08:15.000 It's just reporting, reporting on the facts.

00:08:17.000 I mean, we had Rising Star by David Garrow.

00:08:19.000 It was like a thousand-page biography on Barack Obama, which exposed this.

00:08:25.000 It didn't really get any traction until just recently this year.

00:08:29.000 And I just want to give people a little bit more insight into the way the sausage is made.

00:08:33.000 Jack knows this.

00:08:34.000 Our audience knows this.

00:08:35.000 I spend a lot of my time doing PR work, media relations work.

00:08:39.000 I mean, it's basically when we get off the show early before the show, a lot of my time spent doing that.

00:08:44.000 Here's what I will tell you.

00:08:46.000 I have sources within the New York Times, the Washington Post complaining to me, complaining to me, Jack, that if they write one untoward comment about the Biden administration, one speculative question, they will be cut off.

00:08:58.000 Access will be cut off.

00:09:00.000 And so this is New York Times.

00:09:02.000 I mean, when I tell you that the frustration within the media community is spreading and it's real about the Biden admin, I think we don't know how that's going to play out in 2024.

00:09:15.000 We don't know how it's going to play out if Biden can't run or chooses not to run or if they're going to force him out.

00:09:20.000 But this is a frustration that is deep seated within the access journalism community.

00:09:28.000 Which just throw it out there.

00:09:29.000 No one's ever going to give Trump credit for this, but his administration was actually one of the most open administrations ever in the history of the United States when it comes to press access.

00:09:38.000 You could be one of those bloggers.

00:09:40.000 You could be somebody who essentially had a Twitter page, but he would give you a press pass.

00:09:45.000 They'd issue a day pass or something for the White House, the pretty breast broom, a breedy press room.

00:09:50.000 You would be able to get in there and even sometimes get interviews with Sarah Huckabee or Sean Spicer when he was running the room.

00:09:55.000 Later, Kaylee McEnany, et cetera.

00:09:57.000 They gave time to literally everyone, got zero credit for it.

00:10:00.000 Yeah, I mean, I believe that that moment where Trump looked at Jim Acosta and said, you are fake news.

00:10:09.000 He tore the veil.

00:10:11.000 He tore the veil.

00:10:12.000 I'll never forget that day.

00:10:14.000 And the media landscape has never been the same, Jack.

00:10:18.000 It's never been the same.

00:10:20.000 And we're never going back to that way that the world was.

00:10:22.000 And yet, there's still a big portion of the population that just watched this legacy news media.

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00:12:16.000 Jack, I'm going to play a clip that you tweeted out.

00:12:18.000 You've got some hot takes on it.

00:12:20.000 149.

00:12:21.000 So they can't lose.

00:12:22.000 They will do anything to win.

00:12:24.000 So how do they do that?

00:12:26.000 They're not going to do COVID again.

00:12:27.000 I know everyone on the right's afraid they're going to do COVID and mask mandates.

00:12:30.000 They're not going to do that.

00:12:31.000 They can't do that.

00:12:31.000 If they've already been exposed, that won't work.

00:12:33.000 There's going to be, no, what are they going to do?

00:12:35.000 They're going to go to war with Russia.

00:12:36.000 That's what they're going to do.

00:12:38.000 There will be a hot war between the United States and Russia in the next year.

00:12:44.000 Yes, of course.

00:12:45.000 They want it anyway.

00:12:47.000 I don't think we'll win it, but that's a separate analysis.

00:12:50.000 But I think it's a political matter.

00:12:52.000 They need to declare war footing in order to assume war powers in order to win.

00:12:58.000 I believe that.

00:12:59.000 And I think all the evidence suggests that's true.

00:13:01.000 Jack, that's a bold statement from Tucker.

00:13:03.000 I mean, we've been talking about the COVID stuff, the COVID panic.

00:13:06.000 We're going to have Natalie Winners on next.

00:13:08.000 We're going to discuss some of the intel that she's gathered.

00:13:11.000 But this is a different tag.

00:13:13.000 Tucker's saying that they will do anything to win, including declaring a hot war against Russia.

00:13:18.000 Your take?

00:13:19.000 Yeah, so I actually threw out on Twitter yesterday just one tweet, a one-line tweet.

00:13:25.000 Unlike Charlie, he's a master of the four-line, the five-line tweets.

00:13:29.000 It's a one-line, old-school, 140-character Twitter tweet where I just said very simply, and I even have it right here, that they would launch America into war with Russia just to get rid of military-age males who are more likely to support Trump. 0.53

00:13:46.000 Andrew, there was a new study, and we have a piece up at humanevents.com today.

00:13:51.000 There was a new study that came out from the University of Queensland, Australia with the subject for more than 5,000 adults in the U.S. and the UK.

00:13:59.000 It's a pre-print in the journal Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin.

00:14:03.000 Why does this matter?

00:14:04.000 So they asked questions about empathy for political allies and empathy for political enemies.

00:14:11.000 And to the shock of the researchers, but probably nobody here in this audience, conservatives tended to have more empathy for liberals.

00:14:20.000 But Andrew, do you think that liberals had much empathy for conservatives?

00:14:27.000 I'm going to take a guess and say no.

00:14:30.000 Hardly any.

00:14:31.000 And always supported harsher measures against them.

00:14:35.000 Whereas conservatives said, oh, no, we need to be careful.

00:14:39.000 They're our friends, et cetera.

00:14:40.000 We must have empathy for them, even though they're our political allies.

00:14:44.000 Well, the problem with this is that it leads to false outcomes because they are misreading the room.

00:14:51.000 And so when I posted that tweet and when Tucker put his thing out saying that the left, the regime, the Uniparty, the overstate, as I call it, that is currently in power would be willing to...

00:15:02.000 Now, we've been saying that they'll bring back COVID to end the election.

00:15:05.000 Tucker's going a step further, I believe, saying they want war with Russia in order to declare war footing to stay in power.

00:15:14.000 And then I kind of was riffing off of that and said, and not only that, but if you launch a hot war with Russia, what are they going to do?

00:15:20.000 Who are they going to send?

00:15:21.000 It will be military-age males who are more than likely predisposed to supporting Trump that would end up going to have to fight in any such situation.

00:15:33.000 Now, when you put all of this together, the neocons got so mad.

00:15:38.000 And oh, like half of neocon DC was raining down on me on Twitter yesterday, in which I was just throwing them out like Andre in a battle royale.

00:15:47.000 But you've got, at the same time, the left, the liberals, they didn't say a word.

00:15:52.000 They didn't say a single thing to my tweet.

00:15:54.000 So it's up to 2.5 million impressions.

00:15:56.000 I just looked.

00:15:57.000 They didn't have an issue with it.

00:15:58.000 Why? 0.94

00:15:59.000 Because they winked.

00:16:00.000 They looked at it and they winked and said, yeah, we would do that.

00:16:03.000 They're also not attacking Tucker either for what he said about getting into a hot war with Russia.

00:16:07.000 Because if you look at things in Ukraine right now, they are definitely not going Zelensky's way.

00:16:12.000 We just had Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer on Human Events, and he predicts that because of the failure of the Ukrainian counteroffensive, remember, we were told this is going to be the spring counteroffensive and it's going to launch.

00:16:22.000 And now it's summer and now summer is over, going into fall.

00:16:25.000 They've barely been able to take anything.

00:16:27.000 Meanwhile, they're losing thousands and thousands of soldiers and they're losing NATO equipment in the field with Russia.

00:16:34.000 Russia, on the other hand, hasn't even lost their superior defensive lines that they've spent all of this time building.

00:16:42.000 So you look at what Russia is doing.

00:16:43.000 The Kremlin, on one hand, they're cleaning up, right?

00:16:46.000 They're cleaning up the ranks.

00:16:47.000 They got rid of Progoshin. 1.00

00:16:48.000 They're making sure that everybody's on board, everyone's loyal to the big boss, taking care of the family business, settling old scores.

00:16:56.000 Now they're moving around, replacing generals that are in operational control of what's going on in Ukraine.

00:17:01.000 They're about to go on the offensive.

00:17:04.000 And Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer has predicted that they're likely to even get on the offensive by October 1st.

00:17:10.000 What does this mean for the United States?

00:17:12.000 What does this mean for Biden?

00:17:13.000 Biden, not only the corruption involved, the belief involved, they will do anything to go and continue this fight, including up to all-out hot war.

00:17:25.000 Jack Pisobic with the hot take.

00:17:28.000 I sure hope you're wrong, Jack.

00:17:29.000 I sure hope Tucker's wrong.

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00:18:37.000 I am very excited to bring my next guest on.

00:18:40.000 That is Natalie Winners.

00:18:41.000 She's the executive editor of War Room and co-host of War Room with Steve Bannon.

00:18:45.000 Natalie, welcome to the show.

00:18:47.000 Hi, thank you so much for having me.

00:18:49.000 I'm honored to be on with you as someone who also fills in for Steve when he's out.

00:18:53.000 I know it's big shoes to Phil, but you're doing a wonderful job.

00:18:57.000 Well, thank you, Natalie.

00:18:58.000 That's high praise from you indeed.

00:18:59.000 Funny backstory with Natalie.

00:19:01.000 I wasn't sure if I was going to bring this up.

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00:19:04.000 Was this like two years ago?

00:19:05.000 Was this like a year and a half ago too?

00:19:08.000 So you broke some report.

00:19:10.000 I was like, Natalie, you need to come on the show.

00:19:13.000 And she thought I was a stalker, folks.

00:19:15.000 True story.

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00:19:21.000 But nevertheless, we cleared it up at a turning point event.

00:19:24.000 And she was like, oh, okay, that's who you are.

00:19:27.000 So it's fine.

00:19:28.000 I know that's why I never come on the Charlie Kirk show, but I'm glad to be here now because now I know that you're not just hounding me for whatever reason, but you want me to spread the gospel about the stories that I write.

00:19:40.000 Exactly.

00:19:41.000 You were blacklisted temporarily, but we're glad to have you back.

00:19:46.000 A self-imposed blacklist.

00:19:48.000 Yeah.

00:19:48.000 Well, you brought it on yourself, Natalie.

00:19:50.000 Anyways, here we go.

00:19:51.000 So, I've been following your reporting.

00:19:53.000 This stuff has gone mega viral on Twitter.

00:19:57.000 You really started a new kind of narrative, a new questioning line of questioning probing of the administration, the regime, rather.

00:20:07.000 Let's go ahead and throw up the tarot.

00:20:08.000 Exclusive federal government is starting COVID-19 emergency contracts expiring in 2025.

00:20:15.000 This is a bombshell story.

00:20:18.000 You know, the Department of Health and Human Services began rolling out federal contracts for COVID-19 response with start dates in September and concluding in the year of 2025.

00:20:28.000 Okay, so Natalie, walk us through these.

00:20:30.000 How did you find them?

00:20:32.000 Where did this scoop come from?

00:20:35.000 And what is the greater significance?

00:20:38.000 Sure.

00:20:38.000 So, this is the second part of the story, sort of a chronicle that I had been keeping track of the federal government's spending database, how they're choosing to spend your hard-earned taxpayer dollars, but specifically sort of juxtaposing the narrative coming out from some alternative media outlets.

00:20:55.000 It really started with Alex Jones and InfoWars talking about the potential for these lockdowns and mandates to be coming again.

00:21:01.000 And of course, if you turn on the mainstream media right now, even if you look around at certain hospitals, VA centers, studios, colleges, you have started to see the rollout of these, of course, ineffective policies.

00:21:13.000 So, I always like to look for the receipts because though the Biden regime is very good at lying and not telling us the truth, you can't lie on USAspending.gov, right?

00:21:23.000 The money is where the map is.

00:21:25.000 And what I have found really, I think, is an alarming trend for a variety of reasons.

00:21:29.000 But the story that you highlighted shows contracts coming from HHS, the Department of Health and Human Services, to various vendors, various federal contractors for COVID-19 services.

00:21:42.000 The HHS contract in particular is going to a pandemic response and tracking firm that specializes in surveillance.

00:21:50.000 They don't really get into excessive details about why they're hiring them, why they're giving them millions of your taxpayer dollars.

00:21:58.000 But I'd also urge other contracts coming from the DOD, coming from the VA, for similar use, whether it was COVID-19 equipment, COVID-19 test kits, or just enforcing COVID-19, quote, safety protocols.

00:22:12.000 But what I think the most concerning part is about this story isn't even the fact that right now they're getting ready to weaponize our taxpayer dollars and purchase these contracts.

00:22:22.000 What's even more damning is on the other end is the end dates of these contracts.

00:22:27.000 And in a lot of cases, those coming from HHS are set to end in 2025, but those coming from the DOD and the VA are actually set to culminate, and believe it or not, the year 2028.

00:22:40.000 And why I think this is so damning, it goes back to something that you guys are always covering on the show, right?

00:22:44.000 This isn't about public health.

00:22:46.000 It's not about COVID.

00:22:47.000 It's about weaponizing it, exploiting it, and using it to push a very nefarious social agenda that, of course, dovetails with the 2024 election.

00:22:56.000 Yeah, so it's an interesting tie-in, Natalie.

00:22:58.000 So 2025, obviously, this would be after the 2024 elections, right?

00:23:04.000 2028 would be assuming Democrats remain in power.

00:23:07.000 They're going to have these contracts in place until then, which could mean we are in for, if Democrats win and get their way, we could be in for an era of COVID tyranny that we, I think most of the general public, certainly myself, thought was basically in the rearview mirror. 0.52

00:23:24.000 Now, are you seeing a change in tone?

00:23:28.000 I think I am, but I want to get your perspective on this.

00:23:31.000 Are you seeing a change in tone from the likes of Corinne Jean-Pierre or any of the other admin folks within the Biden administration that this is actually something they're ramping up to do?

00:23:44.000 Do we see the signs that would indicate that your reporting is actually Part of a greater scheme.

00:23:51.000 Sure.

00:23:52.000 Well, from a scientific and data perspective, there's absolutely no signs that the Biden White House, the Biden regime, should be backing these measures.

00:23:59.000 I'm sure people are aware.

00:24:01.000 The week predating the sort of new rollout of the mask mandates, like I said, on the college campuses, in various studios, and sort of starting to see the mainstream media use its COVID-19 talking points again.

00:24:13.000 Of the 324 COVID deaths that were recorded countrywide in that week, like I said, predating the raw of these mask mandates, just about 1.7% of those deaths actually identified COVID-19 as the primary cause of death.

00:24:29.000 Even at peak pandemic levels, that percentage hovered more so around 30%.

00:24:34.000 So I think if you really want to get into why they're bringing this back, I think the more important number is the really free fall that companies like Moderna and Pfizer have seen in their profits when it comes to COVID-19 products.

00:24:47.000 While the CDC has come out and rather forcefully through the mainstream media and through, of course, their fact-checking apparatus, the factcheck.orgs of the world, come out and said, we're not going back into lockdowns.

00:24:59.000 We're not going to reinstitute mask mandates.

00:25:01.000 I don't know about you.

00:25:02.000 Anytime the CDC says something, the opposite is probably true.

00:25:05.000 So that doesn't really give me any comfort.

00:25:08.000 But we've already started to see Joe Biden pick up the COVID-19 booster talking points saying that people should get ready to start taking their boosters come September, which of course is just starting tomorrow.

00:25:19.000 And there's been a lot of talk about how the FDA is already starting to authorize those boosters specifically for the COVID-19 products.

00:25:26.000 So I think we will see a full-scale push for vaccination come from the Biden White House.

00:25:32.000 I think they will be a little more cautious with their talking points and how they're going to talk about the lockdowns, potentially the mask mandates, because I think they know you can only push the American people so far.

00:25:45.000 And I think, you know, we will not comply is really the prevailing sentiment of most America.

00:25:50.000 And I think the Biden regime understands that.

00:25:52.000 So I think they'll try to be a little more indirect in the way that they're going to implement these lockdowns.

00:25:57.000 And frankly, Andrew, I think the way that we're already starting to see that comes in the way that they're very, very, very skilled with their language, with the syntax and the diction that they use.

00:26:06.000 In other words, they've sort of rebranded the term lockdown, the term mandate, and now they're called safety protocols.

00:26:13.000 If you read the mainstream media, you'll start to see this word pop up, but that's sort of the new remake of what a COVID-19 mandate or COVID lockdown is.

00:26:22.000 It's a safety protocol, a very euphemistic term that means we got to trust the experts because only they know how to keep us safe.

00:26:28.000 I'm, of course, being ironic.

00:26:31.000 Yeah, of course.

00:26:32.000 I mean, like on a 30,000-foot level, I guess like my question is: you know, are they really serious about this?

00:26:40.000 I mean, was this a trial balloon?

00:26:42.000 You know, to gauge the public's reaction to this, I mean, do they think this has any political advantage whatsoever?

00:26:49.000 Are they just so neurotic they can't really help themselves?

00:26:53.000 I mean, what's what could be driving this?

00:26:55.000 And I mean, and I'm going to play this clip again for the audience and for you of Of Tucker saying, Hey, it's not going to be COVID, it's not going to be mass and lockdowns.

00:27:04.000 Actually, it's going to be war with Ukraine.

00:27:06.000 I mean, is this just floating trial balloons to see what sticks here?

00:27:10.000 I think so.

00:27:11.000 I think it's so in your face, and I think they think that they can get away with it.

00:27:15.000 Because if you think about it, I mean, for the past years, we've really only seen now because of FOIA requests and awesome investigative reporting that the censorship industrial complex really does exist, right?

00:27:26.000 You have these groups that are within the government, but it's also been outsourced to these sort of NGO types.

00:27:31.000 We, of course, see that with the collusion with big tech.

00:27:33.000 So, I think the Joe Biden types of the world, the Biden regime, is really the American ruling class, has been able to get away with lying to the American people because they have essentially a Praetorian guard, right, that is running cover for them and censoring anyone that they disagree with.

00:27:48.000 When it comes to the mandates and the potential lockdowns, I mean, I really think that we need to look at these as an extension of democratic lawfare, just in the style of the impeachments and the indictments that they've weaponized against Donald Trump.

00:28:02.000 I think they've realized that the indictments are backfiring.

00:28:05.000 Trump, of course, had his highest ever recorded day in terms of campaign fundraising the day after his Georgia mugshot was released.

00:28:13.000 He's only skyrocketing in the polls.

00:28:15.000 The indictments are not cutting through.

00:28:17.000 They're not having the results that I think the establishment hoped or thought they would.

00:28:21.000 So, I really think that they are throwing the entire kitchen sink at him because they know that they can't beat him at the ballot box.

00:28:28.000 And I know everyone always says that, but I really think we, you know, it's become so normalized now, right?

00:28:34.000 The tactics that the Democrats have used and the Republican establishment, but against Donald J. Trump.

00:28:40.000 But really, these COVID mandates, these lockdowns are just part of that kind of, like you said, 30,000 feet game.

00:28:47.000 It's not actually about public health, right?

00:28:49.000 It's not actually about stopping the spread. 0.75

00:28:52.000 You know, they'll weaponize climate lockdowns.

00:28:54.000 They'll use racism as a supposed social ill or social crisis that we need to combat using any tactic, whether it's a lockdown or a mandate, just enough to really give them the prerequisite or the justification to what is, I think, really use the mass universal mail-in voting.

00:29:13.000 I think that's one of the key ways that they've kind of rigged elections legally in a weird way, although that sounds paradoxical.

00:29:22.000 But I think it's just about getting the public, you know, concerned, triggered, you know, into the COVID hysteria again, that they can launch this country and use the justification to have what is another election that is conducted really primarily vote by mail.

00:29:38.000 But that, of course, comes with the guaranteed fact and Democrats know it all too well that it means it'll also be righteous fraud.

00:29:45.000 Yeah, you know, I totally agree.

00:29:47.000 I think we've gotten accustomed to this game of whack-a-mole that we're now playing with the Democrats.

00:29:53.000 The Democrats seem to constantly be on the offensive.

00:29:55.000 It is this never-ending onslaught, new idea, new idea, new idea.

00:29:58.000 Oh, you know, can we remove Trump from the ballot?

00:30:01.000 Can we do mass mail ballots?

00:30:03.000 Can we stoke fears that a war with Russia is our impending doom?

00:30:09.000 Can we scare people about masks and lockdowns and all of these other things?

00:30:15.000 Can we throw four indictments at Donald Trump?

00:30:18.000 And it seems like that Republicans are just playing defense.

00:30:21.000 There is no plan.

00:30:22.000 Charlie said that this week.

00:30:23.000 In spite of all of that, the reason I think that we're not done seeing these new ideas is because, and these new attempts to derail the Trump movement is simply because the trend is our friend.

00:30:35.000 In these battle states, McLaughlin poll came out today having Trump up 4941 in battleground states, which is massive if true.

00:30:43.000 They are not done.

00:30:45.000 They are wargaming.

00:30:46.000 Mark my words, people.

00:30:47.000 They are wargaming this in some back room, some Zoom call, trying to figure out what we can do to stop Trump.

00:30:57.000 Let's talk about China.

00:30:58.000 So if we're buying up all of these COVID supplies, if we're gearing up for this 2024 push, what's China doing?

00:31:06.000 Is there any connections that you're seeing?

00:31:09.000 The floor is yours.

00:31:10.000 Sure.

00:31:11.000 Well, I think when we talk about Chinese Communist Party influence operations, you know, it wasn't just COVID that I think exposed how in depth they are ingrained and embedded in this country.

00:31:23.000 But I think the level, the extent to which their propaganda operation has a grip and a grasp on this country really was exposed through COVID.

00:31:31.000 And what I mean by that is, you know, think about the propaganda that they were able to disseminate about the origins of COVID-19, right?

00:31:38.000 The wet market, as opposed to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, I would even argue, all the way back to kind of day one of the origins of the virus, intentionally being released from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where it's just it being a natural spillover event.

00:31:52.000 They have hidden, they have continued to hide the viral genomic sequences about the virus, the fact that they were engaging in gain of function research.

00:31:59.000 But what I think the fundamental point is here, and what I have dedicated a lot of my previous career to in terms of the investigative reporting is that it's not just the origins of COVID that the Chinese Communist Party is running these propaganda campaigns on and spreading actual disinformation here in the United States.

00:32:15.000 It's on all issues, and it really is election interference, really in its purest form.

00:32:20.000 And there's actually a wonderful article today in the New York Times that's saying that Republicans, people like me and you who dare to speak out against the Chinese Communist Party and call them out for the evil regime that they are, that were actually fueled by just a desire to basically keep white people and Christianity in power in this country. 0.86

00:32:39.000 I think that might hold the record for worst political take in recent history.

00:32:45.000 But my point in all this is that this narrative about China being a competitor, China being an ally, China being a friend to the United States, that is a narrative, that is a talking point that the Chinese Communist Party, through their political warfare department, which is called the United Front Work Department, has spent billions, and I use the term billions of dollars getting disseminated and really trying to mainstream here in the United States.

00:33:10.000 So when you hear the neoliberal talking point, right, which comes from the Biden regime basically every day about how, you know, a rising China is not a threat to the United States.

00:33:19.000 It was Joe Biden who wrote an op-ed in 2011 saying that a rising China does not pose a threat to the United States.

00:33:25.000 It's a direct quote.

00:33:26.000 Maybe that takes the bait for best New York Times take in a long while.

00:33:32.000 But it's just important to remember that a lot of the talking points that you've heard about China, they are just like so many things in this country, made in China.

00:33:41.000 And there's these groups like the China-United States Exchange Foundation, the Chinese People's Association for Friendship and Foreign Contact, all these very happy, innocuous sounding names, but they have budgets from the Chinese Communist Party, specifically from the People's Liberation Army, and they are tasked to liaise and really embed themselves, not just with politicians here, but with people who work at the think tanks in Washington, D.C., academics, of course, family members of politicians,

00:34:08.000 really so they can astroturf and create this narrative that a rising China is great for the United States.

00:34:14.000 And that's why you've really seen such weakness coming from Joe Biden against China.

00:34:20.000 They used human rights sort of as a cop out, but the issue is much deeper than that.

00:34:24.000 Beware of what you read.

00:34:26.000 Who knows who paid for it?

00:34:28.000 Thank you so much, Natalie.

00:34:32.000 Thanks so much for tuning in, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - August 31, 2023

Is Obama a Gay Cokehead? with Jack Posobiec and Natalie Winters

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