The Charlie Kirk Show - Is Texas Poised to Challenge the Dollar? with Paul Blair and Jeremy Carl

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00:01:36.000 Very important topic of something happening in Texas.

00:01:38.000 Friend of mine joins us to explain Paul Blair, who's head of the Liberty Pastors Network and a great man.

00:01:44.000 Paul, welcome to the program.

00:01:45.000 Charlie, thank you for the time today.

00:01:47.000 I really appreciate it.

00:01:48.000 Paul, tell us about what's happening in Texas and how people can help.

00:01:52.000 Well, Charlie, you're one of the few.

00:01:53.000 In fact, you've been out there beating this drum for a while.

00:01:55.000 You're well aware of a number of the threats that we currently face here in the United States from the Davos crowd.

00:02:02.000 And of course, one of those is the central bank digital currency.

00:02:05.000 There just so happens to be a couple of bills that are down currently in committee in Texas legislature that will, one, serve as a great inflation hedge to every American, in fact, everybody in the world.

00:02:17.000 It'll be a way for the state of Texas to be able to generate a little bit of additional revenue.

00:02:22.000 But maybe one of the most important things it will do is provide an alternative from what seems to be the intentional effort to destroy the dollar and guide us into a programmable digital currency.

00:02:33.000 So Texas, according to Article 1, Section 9 of the Constitution, states have the authority to coin gold and silver since tender, or actually the dollar was supposed to be backed by gold and silver and was until the early 70s.

00:02:46.000 But states can't just print dollars or create dollars, but they can coin actual gold and silver.

00:02:52.000 So in 2015, the state of Texas brought all of its gold back from New York and built their own gold depository, kind of like their own Fort Knox.

00:03:00.000 And what these bills will do will create the ability for the Texas Comptroller to basically add an ATM machine to the Texas gold depository.

00:03:11.000 And every individual in the world can deposit part of their savings, part of their paycheck, whatever, and have it held in gold at the depository rather than in dollars at the bank.

00:03:20.000 And this is legal tender according to the Constitution.

00:03:24.000 State of Texas absolutely has every right.

00:03:26.000 Every state has the right to do this.

00:03:28.000 So individuals, if the dollar continues to be devalued, and as we all note, it is, then this is an alternative form of currency that can be used in the United States and worldwide.

00:03:41.000 Beautiful thing about it, it's already in the Constitution.

00:03:43.000 Texas is light years ahead of everybody else with this legislation already in place.

00:03:48.000 And we have been beating the grassroots for the last two weeks.

00:03:51.000 And we've literally seen over 2 million people reach out to the Texas legislature and encourage them to go ahead and pass these bills that would be good for all of America, including our own state treasurer here in Oklahoma, Todd Russ, in a letter of support for what they're doing and saying that the state of Oklahoma would be very interested in learning about this project and perhaps replicating it here.

00:04:14.000 So, this would be a competing currency to the U.S. dollar.

00:04:18.000 Is that a fair way to put it?

00:04:21.000 Yeah, I think that's a fair way of putting it, but recognize American currency, the U.S. dollar was backed by gold.

00:04:26.000 It was always backed by gold or silver until in the early 70s, we decided to break that promise.

00:04:33.000 So, you know, paper is not money.

00:04:35.000 Gold and silver throughout history and throughout biblical history and throughout American history is tender.

00:04:40.000 So, this the states reserve the right that they can actually coin gold and silver.

00:04:45.000 And with modern debit card technology, we don't need to coin it.

00:04:48.000 We don't need to carry it around in a little pouch hanging in our glove compartment.

00:04:52.000 You know, we can use debit card technology enabled to transact business with actual gold that we have on deposit in the state of Texas.

00:04:58.000 So, would this then include a creation of a central bank, or are we going to do it the right way, the way our founders actually envisioned?

00:05:08.000 And the comptroller working individual agreements with different, like, oh, MasterCard, whoever does create the debit cards, credit cards can enter into contract with the state of Texas under Texas oversight, the comtroller in particular.

00:05:08.000 Yep.

00:05:21.000 And this would be, again, what America was supposed to have had.

00:05:25.000 And we're supposed to have all this gold in Fort Knox, and the dollar is supposed to be backed by gold or silver.

00:05:30.000 In fact, I'm old enough there.

00:05:31.000 There used to be silver certificates and gold certificates.

00:05:34.000 And rather than it says now Federal Reserve note, well, what does that mean?

00:05:38.000 So this is actual constitutional going all the way back to biblical history, world history.

00:05:45.000 Gold and silver has always been tender.

00:05:47.000 This is just reestablishing it, according to the Constitution through the state of Texas.

00:05:52.000 And anybody that does business with Texas has to accept it.

00:05:55.000 And quite frankly, this is tender.

00:05:58.000 And Texas is the eighth largest economy on the planet.

00:06:01.000 So they carry a pretty big stake.

00:06:02.000 So it wouldn't be the full faith and credit of Texas.

00:06:05.000 It would actually be a metallic-based currency.

00:06:09.000 And having a state behind it would be very powerful, especially a state like Texas.

00:06:15.000 And it would originally be an opt-in.

00:06:17.000 But I mean, Paul, I would trade my dollars for a Texas metallic-based currency.

00:06:21.000 And once this hits a critical mass, I mean, this then could be a legitimate replacement, right?

00:06:29.000 Well, see, and this is good in so many ways.

00:06:31.000 Quite frankly, the only people that would object to this and do object to it are the maybe the Federal Reserve and the globalists because they want to concentrate.

00:06:41.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:06:42.000 Yeah, right.

00:06:42.000 And the big banks.

00:06:43.000 The normal banks, the regional banks, will love honest banking business.

00:06:49.000 But what this will do is for the average individual, you know, if you've got means, you know, perhaps you can have a percentage of your portfolio in some investment account and do something that kind of counters or battles inflation.

00:07:00.000 But actually, a CNBC article I read just this last week said 64% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck.

00:07:08.000 So they are absolutely exposed to inflation. 0.90

00:07:12.000 And quite frankly, anybody that tries to minimize just what a threat inflation is to us right now is lying or just ignorant.

00:07:18.000 So this will provide inflation protection for every individual.

00:07:22.000 You can have your weekly, you could have your whole check deposited weekly down there.

00:07:26.000 It would buy actual gold.

00:07:27.000 You'd use your debit card technology just as you do now.

00:07:31.000 It's good for the state of Texas or for any state.

00:07:34.000 Again, let me say any state can participate in this.

00:07:37.000 Oklahoma could rent space to the Texas depository right now.

00:07:41.000 And then in the future, if they decide to build their own depository, they could.

00:07:45.000 But this would be good for each state because a state would be able to make like a 1% or 1% transaction fee off of every card sale, just as we pay now.

00:07:54.000 It should lower the tax burden for the citizens of a particular state.

00:07:58.000 And then, of course, it'll battle the CBDC.

00:08:00.000 It'll really be a shot to the solar plexus.

00:08:02.000 Yes.

00:08:03.000 So at least temporarily from the CBDC.

00:08:04.000 Where is this at legislatively?

00:08:07.000 What is the action item here?

00:08:09.000 Well, the very first thing is it's in House Committee right now, the House State Affairs Committee.

00:08:16.000 And they have gotten, again, if people would go to the Align Act, it's a website, not of our creation.

00:08:22.000 It's out there.

00:08:23.000 It's a conservative website.

00:08:25.000 And you focus on the topic, Texas transactional currency.

00:08:28.000 That's an easy step one where any American can send the state of Texas and the entire legislature a note supporting this action.

00:08:38.000 So that counts a lot.

00:08:40.000 Anybody of your listening audience that actually lives within the state of Texas, contact their state representative and encourage them.

00:08:47.000 This is called House Bill 4903.

00:08:50.000 Think of a really bad football game, 4903, and ask them to push the Texas Transactional Currency Act, House Bill 4903.

00:08:58.000 Right now it's in House Committee.

00:09:00.000 Some of our side is going to be down tomorrow.

00:09:02.000 It's actually going to be heard in committee tomorrow.

00:09:04.000 We've got many from our volunteer organizations that will be down there speaking in Austin.

00:09:10.000 And then at that point, we will have our next action step.

00:09:13.000 You know how legislation is.

00:09:14.000 We'll need it placed on the actual calendar of the House, and then we'll need to support that.

00:09:19.000 But we've got a lot of ground swell support.

00:09:23.000 Like I said, literally about 10 days ago, this site, alignact.com, had had 270,000 people send emails to the legislature.

00:09:34.000 Well, in the last 10 days, that's now gone up by 2 million people.

00:09:39.000 And then with voices like yours out there making people aware of this, it's just going to continue to explode.

00:09:45.000 So this is good for everybody, except the globalists and the Federal Reserve.

00:09:48.000 Yeah.

00:09:49.000 And so what is just one minute, and we have you for another segment, Paul.

00:09:52.000 What's the counterargument to this?

00:09:53.000 How could anyone oppose this?

00:09:56.000 Well, there really isn't one.

00:09:57.000 Other than there's been some response by the legislators in the state of Texas, like they're saying, well, who's behind this?

00:10:04.000 Somebody's got to be behind this.

00:10:05.000 Which big bank is behind this?

00:10:07.000 And they find it hard to believe that we aren't a bunch of lobbyists.

00:10:10.000 We are just concerned, patriotic citizens.

00:10:13.000 I mean, this literally is a grassroots effort.

00:10:16.000 You know, a lot of people that you may know, we all have different ministry organizations.

00:10:20.000 We're overtly Christian.

00:10:22.000 We're all overtly patriotic that are involved in pushing this.

00:10:26.000 But literally, this is just the grassroots.

00:10:29.000 So the only ones that would be opposing it are really the ones that want to centralize currency, turn it into a programmable digital currency.

00:10:37.000 And as you have talked about up with your audience on many occasions, that's not really currency.

00:10:41.000 It's a means of control over the over the masses.

00:10:43.000 A Texas-based transactional gold and silver currency.

00:10:47.000 If you get 100,000 people start to use it or a million people, it could break the, I mean, unintentionally break the back of the dollar.

00:10:54.000 That might be an unintended consequence, but I could see a lot of foreigners all of a sudden coming in for a stable currency in the state of Texas.

00:11:04.000 This is the way we need to start thinking.

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00:12:13.000 Paul Blair is with us.

00:12:15.000 He's on something very important here.

00:12:16.000 It is alignact.com.

00:12:18.000 I just signed it.

00:12:19.000 2.3 million, Paul.

00:12:21.000 That's a lot of people.

00:12:23.000 Who's the main pusher behind this?

00:12:24.000 Is this just organic grassroots?

00:12:26.000 It's amazing.

00:12:26.000 This is organic.

00:12:28.000 Actually, a very dear friend of mine made the name of Kevin Freeman.

00:12:31.000 Kevin used to be an advisor with Templeton years ago.

00:12:34.000 He wound up in the early 2000s.

00:12:36.000 Kevin wrote a book dealt with the subject of total warfare.

00:12:41.000 And of course, Kevin has been sounding the alarm on the threat of China since about 2006, 2007.

00:12:48.000 And at one point in time, he was actually a subject matter expert that was advising the Pentagon when it came to total warfare and economic warfare.

00:12:55.000 So Kevin's got a show.

00:12:57.000 I don't know if I can mention the competing network, but it's on Beck's network.

00:13:01.000 It's called the Economic War Room.

00:13:03.000 Kevin Freeman, great, great guy.

00:13:05.000 Yep, Kevin Freeman, the economic war room on the blaze.

00:13:08.000 Kevin's been on this for about 15 years.

00:13:10.000 He's the one who got me on it 15 years ago.

00:13:12.000 And then we were just talking over the last couple of weeks and we realized that this was in the legislature in Texas.

00:13:17.000 Texas only meets every second year.

00:13:19.000 So if it doesn't pass this year, got to wait two years for Texas to take it up again.

00:13:24.000 And then, quite frankly, about two weeks ago, we recognized this was in committee and it was just going to die there.

00:13:30.000 So we thought, as many contacts as we all had in the state of Texas, let's at least do everything we can.

00:13:35.000 Let's leave it all in the field and do our very best.

00:13:38.000 And it's been amazed.

00:13:39.000 We've had over 2 million responses in the last 10 days.

00:13:42.000 Yeah, I'm reading it first.

00:13:44.000 It's so simple.

00:13:44.000 It's how it works.

00:13:45.000 As you said, Paul, Article 1, Section 10 of the Constitution allows states to make gold and silver coins, tender.

00:13:50.000 In the past, using gold and silver to pay things was impractical, but with modern technology, the Texas bullion depository can make gold and silver transactional simply by adapting existing debit card technology.

00:14:01.000 And so, Paul, basically, what you're putting forward is a solution against all this anxiety: the dollar can collapse world reserve currency.

00:14:07.000 You say, no, no, no.

00:14:08.000 Yeah, yes.

00:14:09.000 Big concern.

00:14:10.000 Yes, if you have U.S. dollars, but if I'm in Arizona, I could play ball, right?

00:14:14.000 Now, so talk about that.

00:14:18.000 So, this provides an alternative tender.

00:14:22.000 And again, gold and silver.

00:14:23.000 See, we think of tender, we think currency, we think dollars.

00:14:26.000 And quite frankly, since World War II, the whole world has functioned off the dollar being the world reserve currency.

00:14:32.000 But in reality, the dollar in the first place was supposed to represent a dollar's worth of gold or a dollar's worth of silver.

00:14:39.000 So, reality, gold and silver is legal tender in the United States of America.

00:14:45.000 But since the early 70s, we got off the gold standard.

00:14:48.000 We have really seen it just explode the last couple of years.

00:14:51.000 Inflation.

00:14:52.000 You know, what inflation is just when you're turning on the printing press.

00:14:55.000 You're inflating the supply of dollars, thus devaluing the dollars that are already in circulation.

00:15:02.000 So, the policies that we're seeing, Charlie, you know, you mentioned a little while ago: is this a threat to the dollar?

00:15:07.000 Quite frankly, the dollar is at risk regardless.

00:15:11.000 This is just a possible lifeline that would allow all citizens in the United States to continue to function, even if the dollar does go to half.

00:15:20.000 Yes, sir.

00:15:20.000 That's right.

00:15:21.000 Finish your thought.

00:15:22.000 I'm sorry to interrupt.

00:15:23.000 Well, I know you're on top of this.

00:15:23.000 Keep going.

00:15:26.000 You are, I don't know if you remember, several years ago, you and I were at a particular event, and I really, before you had rocketed to Stardo, I mentioned you how proud I was.

00:15:35.000 Please forgive me if being an old guy seemed to condescending.

00:15:37.000 You reminded me of my oldest son because the way you talk and the way you thought.

00:15:42.000 So, your people understand this stuff, but this is not intentional.

00:15:46.000 I mean, not accidental. 0.98

00:15:48.000 If we just have morons in D.C., every now and then they'd get the answer right. 0.96

00:15:53.000 But, you know, when you've got the Federal Reserve trying to, you know, slow down the economy by raising interest rates at the same time, rather than cooperating with the Federal Reserve, you've got our federal government policy just creating vast amounts of dollars out of thin air and pumping it into the market. 0.98

00:16:12.000 We're going to lose the battle.

00:16:14.000 But not only is the inflation of the money supply going through the roof, but our economy is slowing down, which just magnifies it.

00:16:21.000 So I personally believe that this is intentional.

00:16:24.000 I think the globalists are intentionally devaluing the dollar so that there will be a need to move away from the dollar into eventually will be their programmable central bank digital currency.

00:16:37.000 But even right now, BRICS nations, you know, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South America, and others are actively pushing to replace the dollar as the world reserve currency.

00:16:49.000 And I'm afraid that the day that happens, the American dollar, we become Zimbabwe.

00:16:54.000 I mean, we're going to be walking around with $10 million bills in our wallet.

00:16:56.000 They won't buy a little bit of a business.

00:16:58.000 We have a backup currency plan because we have a lot of value in our country.

00:17:02.000 We do have overinflated amount of pieces of paper, but we have entrepreneurs, we have a trained workforce.

00:17:08.000 We have a lot of natural resources, a lot of energy, a lot of great ideas, a lot of companies.

00:17:11.000 So having a competing currency could be an insurance policy.

00:17:17.000 It could serve to fight against the monopoly right now.

00:17:20.000 That's right.

00:17:20.000 The currency monopoly.

00:17:22.000 Also, Paul, have you seen that?

00:17:23.000 So this could actually work to save the dollar.

00:17:25.000 Yeah.

00:17:25.000 And save the spirit of the dollar, right?

00:17:27.000 Which is American strength and solvency.

00:17:30.000 Well, it's going to force them to behave better because they're going to have a little bit of competition that the Constitution allows. 0.93

00:17:36.000 We need currency competition.

00:17:37.000 It's long overdue.

00:17:38.000 It's more stable than crypto, too.

00:17:39.000 Crypto is too flash in the pan.

00:17:41.000 Alignact.com, very important.

00:17:43.000 Paul, God bless you.

00:17:44.000 We'll talk to you soon.

00:17:45.000 Thank you.

00:17:46.000 Thank you, Charlie.

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00:19:37.000 I love Bozeman, Montana, but it's been taken over by absolute parasites. 0.99

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00:19:42.000 It's similar to Aspen.

00:19:43.000 I'm really worried about Montana.

00:19:44.000 Jeremy Carl from the wonderful Claremont Institute.

00:19:46.000 Jeremy, I find it interesting.

00:19:48.000 The left they scream about January 6th insurrection, but we see them time and time again behaving in very similar fashion, taking over state houses, mostly the trans world, though.

00:19:58.000 And that I really want to build that out because you're a deep thinker and a really well-published writer.

00:20:04.000 But we'll get into that as we go.

00:20:05.000 I want to know what your ideas of where this ideology comes from and how we could properly diagnose it.

00:20:09.000 But tell us about what happened in Missoula, state capital.

00:20:14.000 What's going on?

00:20:15.000 Helena.

00:20:16.000 Helena, not Missoula.

00:20:17.000 Go ahead.

00:20:18.000 Yeah, well, we had these transurrectionists, as I call them, come in yesterday and attempt to disrupt the meeting of the state house, essentially doing a bunch of chants and trying to shut down the house business. 0.86

00:20:34.000 And this is a really big deal because, as a small state, we only have a legislature that meets three months every two years.

00:20:41.000 We've got a lot of business to get done in a short amount of time.

00:20:45.000 And, you know, when we have a disruption like this, it puts a bunch of things on the legislative agenda off that agenda and it creates some real problems.

00:20:54.000 Yeah.

00:20:54.000 So who was the driving force of it?

00:20:56.000 And was it legal?

00:20:57.000 Well, it definitely wasn't legal.

00:20:59.000 And the good news is that we arrested seven of them, some of them are the worst actors.

00:21:03.000 Although, you know, and it's funny because the people in Montana are such decent people.

00:21:08.000 You know, as one of these people was being let out in handcuffs, the arresting cop, and this is on video somewhere, apologized for misgendering them at some point.

00:21:18.000 Come on, what are you guys?

00:21:19.000 Canada?

00:21:20.000 Like, this is insane.

00:21:23.000 And like basically allowed them to give an impromptu interview to all these news media who were there.

00:21:28.000 And again, it's not that this cop is a bad guy.

00:21:31.000 He's just not used to dealing with these sorts of malevolent actors.

00:21:36.000 And, you know, this is all just, you know, the kind of broader impetus is that we are trying to pass things in Montana that's very sensible, frankly, not even adequate, but a good start legislation that will forbid essentially the mutilation of minors and cross-sex hormones, et cetera, for minors in Montana.

00:21:58.000 And we actually have a transgender identified Montana legislator who accused the Republican majority of having blood on their hands.

00:22:08.000 They were appropriately censured for that because that's not the sort of thing that we say in a legislative body and essentially told that they were not going to be recognized by the chair until they apologized, which they've refused to do.

00:22:21.000 And that's sort of what has led to the current situation that we're in.

00:22:25.000 So, Jeremy, you're a deep thinker.

00:22:27.000 If you could have the entire conservative movement know one thing about the trans movement, what would that be?

00:22:34.000 Who are we dealing with?

00:22:34.000 What motivates these people?

00:22:38.000 Well, I mean, I think you have to spread it out, Charlie.

00:22:41.000 You have to look at different constituencies.

00:22:42.000 I mean, I think particularly for the young people who are increasingly the sort of Gen Z folks, both minor and of age, I mean, they're just confused people who have a lot of problems in their lives. 1.00

00:22:53.000 And this is not a surprise.

00:22:57.000 I mean, childhood, youth, adolescence, young adulthood, these are challenging times.

00:23:02.000 And the appropriate response, of course, for people who get confused in this way is to sort of counsel them and to, you know, offer support and help, but not to kind of feed their delusions.

00:23:14.000 And then on top of that, we have a superstructure of leftists who just kind of want to burn down every traditional institution in the West and in America.

00:23:24.000 And they see transgenderism as kind of the next institution in the long march through the institutions to blow up the natural family to do all these sorts of things. 0.99

00:23:34.000 Yeah.

00:23:34.000 And so do you think they're going to stop anytime soon?

00:23:37.000 There is this belief on the conservative side that we have to bring down the temperature.

00:23:42.000 Yeah, they might be a little radical, but this thing's going to fizzle out.

00:23:46.000 Do you see any evidence of that?

00:23:49.000 Not at all.

00:23:49.000 And I think we need to turn it up to 11.

00:23:51.000 I mean, there's even been, you know, there's been some anecdotal data that say, oh, well, you know, maybe the trans movement has peaked.

00:23:58.000 When you see the number of people who are applying for hormone treatments and things like that, there's no indication that's the case.

00:24:06.000 We're not talking about a trivial number of people, by the way.

00:24:08.000 You're talking about for surveys, the Gallup survey of Gen Z, I believe 2% of kids are trans identified.

00:24:15.000 And look, I've got five kids.

00:24:16.000 I've got a high schooler.

00:24:17.000 I've got a middle schooler.

00:24:19.000 I can tell you that even here in Montana, we've got this.

00:24:22.000 This problem exists.

00:24:23.000 It's not just a social contagion, and people need to be willing to say that.

00:24:28.000 That something is infecting the hearts and the minds.

00:24:32.000 And it's coming via TikTok.

00:24:34.000 We'll put this graphic up.

00:24:35.000 7.2% of U.S. adults identify as LGBT.

00:24:39.000 I've said this before.

00:24:40.000 It's the gayest the country has ever been, and it's only getting gayer. 1.00

00:24:43.000 And one out of five of Gen Z is gay. 0.95

00:24:46.000 It's the gayest generation in American history. 1.00

00:24:49.000 And it's in our schools.

00:24:51.000 It is a social issue that is being misrepresented as an identification issue.

00:24:57.000 And so talk about the specific legislative items that you're trying to get on Governor Gianforte's desk.

00:25:04.000 Yeah, well, I think there's a few different bills that are working through, but basically it's to, you know, to kind of ban any sort of surgeries for minors, to ban hormone treatment, to this has been one controversial one,

00:25:19.000 to essentially not make it easy for teachers to or to refer to people by other than their birth sex so that you don't have some of these secret transitions going on and social transitions in school because social transition ultimately leads to medical transition.

00:25:37.000 So we've really stopped.

00:25:38.000 We're really focusing on minors.

00:25:40.000 Now, I think, as does Matt Walsh and others who've done a terrific job on this, that we absolutely, you know, it is a danger and a mistake to say, well, this is fine for adults, but it's just bad.

00:25:54.000 I totally agree with you.

00:25:55.000 I think that's right.

00:25:57.000 It's a social contagion that is rooted in a rejection of reality and a tyrannical impulse to get other people to conform to your own delusion.

00:26:05.000 Right.

00:26:05.000 No, no, no, absolutely, Charlie.

00:26:07.000 And we don't let healthy adults, you know, chop off their limbs because they don't like them.

00:26:12.000 So why do we do it for this?

00:26:14.000 You know, having said that, you know, minors is a good entry point.

00:26:18.000 I think pretty much everybody who's not totally taken leave of their senses realizes that this is not something we should be exposing kids to.

00:26:26.000 But I do think that it's important that as we talk about it, we do it in a way that makes it clear that this is a bad thing for everybody, not just for kids.

00:26:34.000 Yeah, and it's creating an insane and increasingly neurotic society.

00:26:38.000 Let's play cut 38.

00:26:39.000 This is happening in Montana.

00:26:41.000 Montana's more liberal than people realize.

00:26:43.000 I want to talk, you know, Jeremy, because it involves the Senate race.

00:26:46.000 People don't get it.

00:26:47.000 And I said Missoula, I meant Helena, but Missoula is more left-wing than Stalingrad.

00:26:52.000 That place is out of control.

00:26:53.000 You got University of Montana there.

00:26:55.000 Bozeman is not too far behind it with Montana State University.

00:26:58.000 Play Cut 38, please.

00:27:05.000 Speak!

00:27:05.000 Let her speak!

00:27:10.000 Let her speak! 1.00

00:27:12.000 Let us speak!

00:27:13.000 Let her speak! 1.00

00:27:19.000 Literally holding them hostage.

00:27:20.000 And again, this is such an exhausted way of commentating on radio and television, but I have to do it.

00:27:28.000 Could you imagine if those people were wearing MAGA hats and were a bunch of cowboys?

00:27:33.000 Could you imagine how the media would respond?

00:27:36.000 It's actually an appropriate thing to keep on saying.

00:27:38.000 It just kind of gets a little tired because no one really cares.

00:27:42.000 But Jeremy, tell us about Montana.

00:27:43.000 I'm worried about Montana.

00:27:44.000 You know, you're letting a lot of Californians into your state.

00:27:48.000 It's not as right-wing as people think.

00:27:51.000 Now, is it maybe I'm wrong because I heard one interesting point from somebody I trust.

00:27:56.000 They said, but Charlie, it's mostly Republicans moving into the state.

00:27:58.000 Is that true?

00:28:00.000 I do think that post-COVID, it's been a much more Republican movement.

00:28:04.000 And if you look at that, that's good to hear.

00:28:06.000 Keep going.

00:28:07.000 Yeah.

00:28:07.000 And I've actually done some very micro analysis of the Senate, like county by county districts from the census.

00:28:14.000 And what you see is people moving into conservative and rural counties.

00:28:20.000 You have the most conservative in the last year metro in Montana, which is Kalispell the Flathead up near Glacier National Park, growing twice as fast as Bozeman, which is more liberal kind of near where I live, but still a mixed district.

00:28:33.000 And I have to say, I know tons of conservatives who have moved here just in the last few years.

00:28:39.000 We are quite a ways from Boulder.

00:28:41.000 It's not an accident that the Montana GOP got its first supermajority in the legislatures in the last century, just this last cycle.

00:28:51.000 And so I do actually think that the story is a little bit better.

00:28:54.000 That's great.

00:28:57.000 But there are these pockets, though, undeniably, right, Jeremy, that I think are getting worse.

00:29:01.000 I think if the body politic is going more center-right, because I think the count, because the Democrats have gone insane.

00:29:06.000 So people that might used to be Tester Democrats or Bullock Democrats are now right-wingers.

00:29:12.000 There are pockets of legit radical insanity, though, right?

00:29:16.000 Missoula, Helena.

00:29:18.000 Is that correct?

00:29:20.000 Yeah, well, I'd say Missoula mostly, although we do have some, again, in downtown Bozeman as well.

00:29:25.000 But Missoula is the one consistently truly left-wing metro in Montana.

00:29:31.000 And it's not a coincidence that this guy, Zoe Zephyr, which is the name of this transgender identified lawmaker, is from Missoula. 0.91

00:29:40.000 And I've gotten all these kind of notes from friends from out of state saying, you know, how did Montana elect this crazy person?

00:29:46.000 And the thing they don't understand, our state house districts are 11,000 people. 0.94

00:29:50.000 So, you know, if you have just a few nuts kind of concentrated in one small area, that's enough to elect some crazy folks.

00:30:00.000 But actually, most of our metros, everywhere except for Missoula and Bozeman metro areas, did vote for Trump in 2020.

00:30:12.000 The state went for Trump by about 17.

00:30:14.000 And really, Missoula, out of all those, was the only one that was really decisively Democrat.

00:30:19.000 So we do have some bad actors, but I think it's, you know, I actually kind of like the momentum in Montana.

00:30:25.000 There's a couple other worries I have, though.

00:30:27.000 It seems that you guys have an oligarchy of like Jackson Hole, Teton County, Aspen 2.0.

00:30:34.000 I'm talking Yellowstone Club, Big Sky.

00:30:37.000 You know, I'm talking a little bit south of Missoula, Hamilton.

00:30:42.000 You know what I'm talking about.

00:30:43.000 One minute remaining, Jeremy. 0.92

00:30:45.000 Are you worried that Montana might now be the new retreat of the ruling class now that they've destroyed Aspen into an unrecognizable gay hellscape? 1.00

00:30:55.000 Well, I want us to make Montana as uncomfortable for these people as possible. 0.74

00:31:00.000 And that's ultimately one of the reasons I think, Charlie, you're absolutely right to be concerned about it.

00:31:05.000 That's why I think it's really important that we prosecute these transurrectionists to the fullest extent of the law, because you've got to send a message that this is not going to be your new boulder, that we are a conservative state. 1.00

00:31:18.000 We're a state that has Judeo-Christian values, and that we're not going to just let this place be. 0.89

00:31:27.000 You want Democrats who are looking on Zillow right now to say, this place is so backwards.

00:31:34.000 I'm going to stay in Fort Collins.

00:31:36.000 Good.

00:31:37.000 Stay in Fort Collins.

00:31:38.000 We don't want you in Montana.

00:31:38.000 Okay.

00:31:40.000 We don't want you in Idaho.

00:31:41.000 We don't want you in South Dakota.

00:31:43.000 Because you don't want us.

00:31:43.000 Okay.

00:31:44.000 Okay.

00:31:45.000 Because you guys are imperialists. 1.00

00:31:47.000 You guys are parasites. 1.00

00:31:49.000 You are intolerant. 1.00

00:31:50.000 I'm going to protect beautiful places.

00:31:52.000 And I'm glad to hear that Montana still has a fiber, a DNA.

00:31:57.000 And let's talk, stay another segment, Jeremy.

00:31:59.000 Let's talk about John Tester.

00:32:01.000 It's funny.

00:32:02.000 It's an interesting pattern we have.

00:32:04.000 Yesterday we had a great guest on about Aspen.

00:32:07.000 And now it's just kind of like, as we enter the summer months, we're reflecting on the upper altitude states that could determine the Republic.

00:32:15.000 Very interesting.

00:32:16.000 Well, I've still got snow in my yard, so it doesn't seem that summary.

00:32:19.000 Do you really?

00:32:20.000 Oh, yeah.

00:32:20.000 Yeah, that.

00:32:21.000 It was a bad winter up here.

00:32:22.000 What do they say?

00:32:23.000 It's not safe till like halfway through June.

00:32:26.000 Yeah, right?

00:32:27.000 That's about right.

00:32:28.000 It's about like June 15th.

00:32:29.000 You can maybe take out the lawn chairs.

00:32:31.000 Maybe.

00:32:32.000 Jeremy, I want to get rid of John Tester.

00:32:32.000 Yeah.

00:32:34.000 How do we do that?

00:32:36.000 Well, we've got to get a nominee first.

00:32:37.000 I can tell you, I was just texting with Senator Daines a little bit before we got on and hopped on here.

00:32:43.000 He's running the NRSC this cycle, and he's the other senator from Montana.

00:32:48.000 I can assure you, he is certainly laser focused on.

00:32:50.000 He's a good man.

00:32:51.000 I like him.

00:32:52.000 He's a very good guy.

00:32:52.000 Yeah.

00:32:54.000 We go to church together, actually.

00:32:55.000 But he's, you know, so we're very focused.

00:33:00.000 We've got to get a nominee.

00:33:01.000 That's really the question of who that's going to be at this point.

00:33:04.000 There's been some noise about a guy named Tim Sheehee, who runs a company called Bridger Aerospace out here in Bozeman, who I think is clearly being pushed by folks.

00:33:14.000 The other guy out there who I think hear a lot about prominently is Matt Rosendale, who I think is a terrific conservative stalwart congressman from the Eastern District now of Montana, now that we have two districts, although he represents the Constitutional Committee.

00:33:27.000 Trump doesn't seem too happy with him, though.

00:33:29.000 That's an issue.

00:33:30.000 Trump is not happy with Matt Rosendale.

00:33:32.000 That's an element of this race.

00:33:34.000 No, and I think the party establishment really doesn't love Rosendale either for very different reasons than Trump doesn't love him.

00:33:43.000 But a lot of Montana conservatives do.

00:33:45.000 And so the question is who beats him in a primary.

00:33:50.000 That's not to say that it can't happen, but I think that that's an issue that is going to be addressed.

00:33:57.000 But I'm actually pretty optimistic.

00:33:59.000 I think, I mean, I think, frankly, Tester is the biggest fraud in the Senate.

00:34:04.000 Yes.

00:34:04.000 I mean, he's not Joe Manchin.

00:34:06.000 I mean, I have a lot of problems with Joe Manchin, but Joe Manchin will actually sometimes cast some meaningful, moderate votes.

00:34:14.000 John Tester has a flat top.

00:34:17.000 He's got a farming background, but he votes identically to Chuck Schumer, basically on everything that matters.

00:34:22.000 We never get his vote on anything that matters.

00:34:24.000 So he's a radical lib in his voting record.

00:34:28.000 He's dramatically out of state, out of step with the state of Montana.

00:34:32.000 And by the way, they're nerdy political scientists who kind of look at voting patterns of senators versus what you would expect for their state.

00:34:39.000 And this is not just my opinion.

00:34:40.000 I mean, he really, he stands out as a huge outlier.

00:34:45.000 So I think he's gotten lucky for a few different cycles, combination of candidates and years.

00:34:49.000 And I'm optimistic that whoever we put forward, we can beat him in 2024.

00:34:55.000 Well, I have to tell you, one of the things we are looking at is this trend of Democrats appropriating the aesthetic of MAGA.

00:35:03.000 And that is what Tester does.

00:35:05.000 I mean, he pretends he's a hunter.

00:35:06.000 There was this one ad he did.

00:35:08.000 He hadn't pulled a hunting license in 15 years, right?

00:35:12.000 He's like shooting something.

00:35:13.000 He's like, I'm John Tester, and I'm in touch with him.

00:35:16.000 And he thinks he can win over, you know, Montana voters because he has the buzz cut and he's largely overweight.

00:35:24.000 And like, yeah, vote for me.

00:35:25.000 And I wear, you know, I wear khakis and corduroy and I'm in touch with you.

00:35:29.000 It's like, no, you're a left-wing liberal and you're appropriating the aesthetic of a butte coal miner.

00:35:34.000 And that's people need to re-that's the Fetterman thing, right?

00:35:36.000 Like, okay, you're wearing a sweatshirt and gym shorts.

00:35:40.000 You don't share my values.

00:35:42.000 Is that shtick finally going to end, Jeremy?

00:35:44.000 Because he's played that quite well.

00:35:47.000 I hope it is.

00:35:48.000 You're right.

00:35:49.000 He does play it really well.

00:35:50.000 And I mean, let's not underestimate John Tester as a politician.

00:35:54.000 That's why he's survived three elections now.

00:35:56.000 I call him a senator fraudulent flat top, just in the kind of getting at some of the things that you were just touching on.

00:36:03.000 I do think I've talked to the senatorial committee guys and we sort of gone in depth about where his support is.

00:36:09.000 And the interesting thing is, I don't think that shtick works for actual rural Montanans.

00:36:14.000 They sort of see through it.

00:36:16.000 Where it does is where he's won races is he has pulled up bigger margins in Montana's cities than other Democrats.

00:36:25.000 So he's kind of fooling, he's fooling the folks in Bozeman, Missoula, and Helena.

00:36:29.000 He's not fooling the folks in rural Montana.

00:36:32.000 But I just think that 2020 was the first, you know, we just totally swept everything in the state.

00:36:37.000 I think there really is a sea change.

00:36:39.000 We saw the same thing in 2022.

00:36:42.000 And I think we genuinely are going to send him packing.

00:36:46.000 Danes beat a popular sitting governor for his reelect by 10 points.

00:36:51.000 And people liked the governor, even the exit polling.

00:36:53.000 But people were like, ultimately, he's going to go and vote with Chuck Schumer, and we don't want him.

00:36:58.000 And so, and so Danes won that race, not just with a little bit, but quite easily by 10 points.

00:37:04.000 Jeremy Carl, thank you so much.

00:37:06.000 Appreciate it.

00:37:07.000 Thank you so much, Charlie.

00:37:08.000 Pleasure to be on.

00:37:10.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:37:11.000 Everybody, email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:37:14.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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