00:01:08.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:57.000When I bring that up, and I actually like to get your perspective on this as well, because when I bring that up, there are people that I get in my comments, Christians, who say, oh, Jack, there you go judging.
00:02:15.000I said, she was firing at police officers in the commission of an act of, as Catholics, we would call mortal sin, attempting to murder police officers when she was killed.
00:02:27.000So please explain to me that repentance.
00:02:29.000I will say, Jack, admittedly, as a Catholic, you actually, the church does not make claims ever on eternity.
00:02:37.000So as you've been posting this, Jack, I've been curious, can you just tell, can you build that out a little bit?
00:02:43.000Because typically, you know, Catholic Church dogma and orthodoxy does not make any authoritative claims on, you know, let's just say eternal destinations of people.
00:02:59.000So that's essentially what bestowing sainthood is all about, that you're conferring that that person, the church is coming out and saying, yes, this person is in heaven.
00:03:11.000It's seen as one of the highest honors that you could be given in the church, probably the highest.
00:03:17.000But as far as this situation, when you look at the case here, the question is always, did this person repent of their sins before they went to meet their Maker?
00:03:32.000And it's actually more closely tied to the doctrine of repentance rather than making that any question about destination because that's what it's all about in the Catholic Church.
00:03:42.000Did you make a positive, full, actual atonement for your sins before you die?
00:03:49.000And that doesn't mean with, For example, suicide is another case like that, where we believe that in suicide, it was some kind of unless there was mental illness involved that you're not really sure about, but if it was a direct act of a mortal sin, then no, that's no, there's no purgatory there.
00:04:29.000So, there's two pieces of news that we actually have out as in the last 24 hours on this.
00:04:34.000And I think a lot of people have been, you know, just moving on to the next thing, saying, oh, well, you know, let's forget about that story.
00:05:11.000Yes, that the school Covenant Church School has filed a motion to block the release of the manifesto, and they're claiming so because they believe there could be a security risk to the school.
00:05:28.000They're trying to block it on those sites.
00:05:32.000Now, you've also seen the local police union, as well as the Tennessee Firearms Union, has also put in motions to release the manifesto, we're told at this point.
00:05:44.000One of the other pieces of news that I've seen in the last 24 hours is actually a count up in nationalreview.com right now of a writer.
00:05:53.000Apparently, his wife actually worked at the school.
00:05:56.000One of the things that we're being told in this account, which is he goes through the theology of it, he goes through forgiveness, the question of should we allow this transgression, should we allow hate, should we allow evil, but also points out that at one point during the shooting, Audrey Hale took a detour from shooting the children, turned and actually went up to the church itself where they have a stained glass window.
00:06:21.000And if you remember the images of the church that we saw from this, it's actually a beautiful church they have right there.
00:06:29.000It looks like something out of Europe from 500 years ago.
00:06:33.000There was a stained glass picture of Adam, the first man, and Audrey Hale actually stood in front of it and then fired into that stained glass window of Adam, the first man.
00:06:43.000So you really have to look at the symbology of that, a transgender, so a female who was trying to become a man, destroying the image of God's created first man.
00:06:56.000And when I hear people say, oh, this wasn't an anti-Christian attack, when I look at something like that, you really can't escape the religious, the biological, so much symbology and iconography there.
00:07:50.000But I haven't seen anyone else report on that publicly, that the school and the families, presumably, of the school actually paid for the funeral of this murderous psychopath.
00:08:03.000And then, so what then, in the one minute remaining, Jack, do you think we're going to get our eyes on the manifesto at any point?
00:08:10.000I think it's going to come out, Charlie.
00:08:11.000I think there's too much pressure on it at this point.
00:08:13.000That's also incumbent on why on shows like this, on the Charlie Kirk show, what we do over at Human Events, we have to keep the pressure on because Republicans, Democrats, the transgender movement, they would love for this story to go away.
00:08:27.000For some reason, I don't know why there aren't protests in the streets to be able to see this thing right now because the public has a right to know, Charlie.
00:08:36.000Look, when it's one of these situations that involves someone they claim is on the right, or somebody followed Charlie Kirk or followed Jack Posovic, it's everywhere.
00:08:44.000It's every headline, and then they mention it in the same breath as you for the rest of your life.
00:08:48.000No, in this case, we absolutely need to have this thing out.
00:08:54.000Look, with all the danger out there in today's world, many people are concerned about the very real possibility of food shortages.
00:09:02.000That's why I urge everyone to secure a long-term emergency food supply while you can.
00:10:29.000It's kind of one of those simulation things.
00:10:32.000But I will say, Charlie, I appreciate you bringing it up, and we've brought it up on Human Events as well.
00:10:36.000Just because Penny is getting, the New York case is getting all the attention right now, we still cannot forget the fact that Daniel Perry in down in Austin, Texas, is currently in Texas jail because he was sentenced to 25 years because he used his firearm to defend himself against a crazed leftist who was pointing an AK-47 at him,
00:11:00.000a Soros DA in blue of the blue, Austin, Texas, and an Austin jury decided to find him guilty, took an all-day trial, found him guilty.
00:11:09.000Abbott says that he needs to wait for the parole board to get back with this ruling.
00:11:14.000He says he's going to pardon him, but right now, Daniel Perry is behind bars.
00:11:18.000Okay, so there is a Daniel Perry and Daniel Penny.
00:11:23.000So Daniel, this is one thing that gives me hope, Jack.
00:11:26.000The Wall Street Journal, which is not Breitbart, it's not Citizen Free Press.
00:11:31.000It's not American Greatness, but it's necessary.
00:12:12.000At first glance, what happened in New York on the subway looked like a replay of George Floyd, the black Minneapolis man who, at the death of the hands of white police officers, that sparked 2020 riots.
00:12:22.000AOC played her part accordingly, calling the death a public execution.
00:12:26.000But we think Mr. Bragg is losing the narrative here.
00:12:30.000Even before Neely's death, Bragg was notorious district attorney, goes on to say that this guy's a good Samaritan.
00:12:35.000Mr. Penny knew nothing of the history.
00:12:47.000Charlie, what you're seeing here, and I know you've been talking about that on the show recently, is that there's this huge awakening right now of the center-right, and people in the center are now moving more to the right.
00:13:00.000Of course, you're seeing this with Elon Musk, you're seeing this with others, that because the left has now gone so far and they're in so many positions of power, you're talking about Bragg, another Soros DA, right?
00:13:13.000Because George Soros identified this arbitrage situation where he could come in and for pennies on the dollar enact this massive influence over our cities, a massive influence over our society by simply putting in these prosecutors that decided to completely throw out the rule of law and the norms that have held our society together here in the West for thousands of years in our civilization.
00:13:43.000They've just decided to use that as their own plaything, which is something that the founders never believed that this would happen.
00:13:50.000Now, of course, you are seeing a massive backlash to this.
00:13:53.000The one, I believe her name is Kim Gardner out in St. Louis.
00:13:57.000She just resigned as she was under investigation.
00:14:02.000I hear she's in nursing school right now, which actually horrifies me.
00:14:05.000I hope that they never put her anywhere near a patient involved with health.
00:14:10.000And you're also seeing, Charlie, a shift, I think, that will bear out politically going into the 2024 election because everything that goes on right now has to be viewed through that lens.
00:14:24.000That the country is now getting a full-on taste of the far-left wokus government under Joe Biden.
00:15:04.000We're out of time here, Jack, but the Wall Street Journal comes in.
00:15:08.000This would not have happened five years ago.
00:15:10.000Five years ago, the Wall Street Journal would have been afraid of being called a racist because a white guy put a black guy in a chokehold, despite the black guy being a schizophrenic, multi-repeated criminal maniac and disturbing the peace on a subway.
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00:16:54.000Well, this is kind of an interesting exclusive in the same vein as something we did that was a kind of surprising hit, or if you can't say hit, it certainly became very popular and generated a lot of discussion, which is a piece that actually looked at American subways and compared those to the subways and the rail systems in various cities in the world,
00:17:21.000not just places that we'd expect to have clean and well-functioning rails, but all sorts of places.
00:17:28.000In fact, one of the kind of darkly ironic things we discovered in this is that North Korea actually has cleaner subways than New York City.
00:17:38.000But I guess, you know, we get the dystopia, we get the tyranny of North Korea.
00:18:05.000And I think a lot of Americans, especially people the millennial age and older, are stuck in this outdated software kind of imprinted in the 90s when America was the place to be.
00:18:57.000It's if you want an ultra technologically advanced place, you can go to these sort of middleman cities like Dubai, Singapore, that are, you know, seem like they should be a half a century into the future compared to the United States.
00:19:12.000Then there's also the issue of affordability.
00:19:15.000You know, before getting into these interesting real estate options overseas, in this specific piece, we show just how much people are getting scammed, you know, having to pay a million dollars for a meh-type property in Nashville, Tennessee.
00:19:32.000People in America don't understand just how much you're getting ripped off and scammed.
00:19:38.000You're living in San Francisco now, you're paying prices that could easily get you one, if not two or three palaces in other well-developed countries.
00:19:49.000And instead, you're paying for a coffin-like apartment.
00:19:53.000That's right, um, just by sidewalks where you have homeless people defecating in the streets, and you're lucky to be able to walk across the block without getting mugged or raped.
00:20:04.000This is the condition the country is really fallen into.
00:20:10.000And the reason I publish a piece like this, which is very provocative but interesting and true, is that it's really important that we not lose sight of how far things have gone.
00:20:24.000Because if we start to think of the present state of America as the new normal, we won't have any idea of demanding anything better.
00:20:32.000So, as uncomfortable as it is, as difficult a pill as it is to swallow, that in so many key metrics, America is no longer a first world country, we need to swallow that pill.
00:20:44.000One, just to have a more worldly perspective on how things actually are.
00:20:49.000But secondly, we need to understand and work with that reality in order to improve.
00:20:55.000And if you have money in America, you can kind of insulate yourself from some of this, right?
00:21:01.000I mean, you can kind of still get a four to five to six to eight million dollar home and live a nice life.
00:21:08.000But you look at this article, you know, Revolver.news, you have this picture of a shack, and I don't mean that in a pejorative way, okay?
00:21:16.000But it's not, I wouldn't say this is an overly beautiful home.
00:21:53.000The real estate component is very interesting for you to pinpoint because where you live, it becomes the way the American project has worked post-World War II is that has kind of become your bank account, right?
00:22:09.000You put more money into your house than anything else.
00:22:48.000I mean, you make a great point about real estate, and that's always been a key complaint in terms of standard of living, basic sort of metrics for adulthood and so forth.
00:23:07.000There are issues associated with real estate, but it's about quality of life.
00:23:11.000It's about criminality in the cities themselves.
00:23:16.000It's about having a clean and safe and well-functioning public transportation system.
00:23:22.000One really critical part of the collapse of the standard of living in the United States is the fact that public civic spaces are totally destroyed.
00:23:33.000And public transportation, I think, is probably the most conspicuous, but not the only example of that.
00:23:40.000So you just get, and so again, it's not necessarily about, oh, moving to Lisbon, moving here or there, but it's so important, I think, for Americans to understand that it doesn't have to be like this.
00:23:58.000in Portugal that are clean, that are safe, that are in the city, that have great, you know, and healthy food.
00:24:06.000And all of this is at an affordable price.
00:24:09.000You ask, why the hell can't we have this in our Americans?
00:24:13.000Why can't we have a clean and functioning subway system in our cities?
00:24:18.000Why do you have to pay $700,000 for what you diplomatically call the starter home, but for what people in Portugal, which is not typically known as a first world country, what people in Portugal would describe as probably a shack.
00:24:34.000How have Americans gotten scammed so hard?
00:24:39.000And most of them don't even know it because again, a lot of the older Americans, myself included, I'm a millennial, older millennial.
00:24:47.000I traveled a lot in the 90s all over the world.
00:24:50.000And whenever you step set foot, Southeast Asia, any of these places in the world, you were treated like a rockstar.
00:24:58.000Now there are many cities in Southeast Asia that are far better, far more advanced than most American cities.
00:25:05.000And that's just the reality that we're in right now.
00:25:08.000And like I said, we can decide not to swallow that pill and still pretend like America is this preeminent first world, beautiful society like it was as early, you know, as recently as the 90s.
00:25:22.000Or we can start to acknowledge, man, we still maintain those key metrics of global hegemony.
00:25:29.000As I pointed out, the dollar is still strong.
00:25:33.000We have a lot of key features that you need to be a global superpower.
00:25:38.000But in terms of the standard of living for an average citizen, that has absolutely cratered even relative to other countries that we would typically consider to be less developed than our own.
00:25:52.000Darren, tell us about this tweet here.
00:25:53.000FBI revoked an agent's clearance for sharing one of your articles.
00:25:58.000Well, if people don't know, there's a lot of things happening with the weaponization committee, a lot of very interesting hearings, and a lot of really disgraceful stories surrounding the persecution of FBI whistleblowers into the misconduct in that agency.
00:26:16.000And just one story, which I found absolutely remarkable, is that there's one particular agent who is decorated hero, military veteran, did very well in the FBI.
00:26:48.000And so this FBI agent wasn't necessarily endorsing the revolver thesis.
00:26:53.000He simply shared the article and said, this is potentially important information.
00:26:57.000This is for your awareness because the field agencies within the FBI were receiving a ton of political pressure from the Washington office to just go scorched earth on anyone remotely associated with January 6th.
00:27:11.000And so this guy said, look, this pressure is weird in light of this article suggesting federal involvement.
00:27:17.000There are a lot of other things that have come out in the whistleblower hearings, including the fact that the feds won't release a lot of footage because they were worried that it would reveal confidential informants and sources and so forth.
00:27:31.000But the bird's eye view, just the reality that simply sharing a revolver news article on January 6th was considered to be an act of hostility to the United States that justified revocation of this decorated veteran and FBI agent security clearance is pretty remarkable.
00:27:54.000And it really kind of shows you where we are today: yes, we do have a lot of good people in the FBI, but they're being weeded out.
00:28:03.000They're people who want to know the truth or reading the truth.
00:28:07.000But if you share it, they'll take away your clearance and make your life absolutely miserable.
00:28:39.000I thought the Twitter announcement was interesting, and I suspect we'll have even more interesting things to come out in the near to medium term future.
00:28:48.000But what's perfectly clear is just how much of a critical asset he was.
00:29:16.000I think they're learning that he was indispensable because his voice was unique within the American national media landscape.
00:29:24.000That's why he was indispensable because he spoke for so many people who simply wouldn't have access to this information, these kinds of truths, these kinds of stories, these types of angles.
00:29:52.000But I think another reason is people just don't want to take the incoming that you have to endure when you step outside of the play pin and cover the types of stories that he, in many cases, uniquely was willing to cover.
00:30:07.000And I think, and I remain extremely grateful to him for amplifying our coverage of January 6th and other things, which wouldn't have received the type of kind of national attention that it got had it not been for his courageous amplification.
00:30:26.000So about a minute remaining, do you think we're going to start to see a greater trend away from corporate media towards independent media because of this?
00:30:34.000You know, that's very complicated and it's hard to say.
00:30:42.000But I'm perhaps in the minority amongst commentators.
00:30:46.000I still, and I hate that this is the case.
00:30:49.000I think there's still a magic to TV and that can't quite be replaced by alternative, the digital media.
00:30:57.000You can have tons of viewers in digital media.
00:30:59.000You can be Joe Rogan, but even Joe Rogan is missing that special sense of legitimacy, the magic, the imprimatur of being on mainstream cable news.
00:31:11.000Maybe that will change in the next 10, 20 years, but I think people are kind of projecting wishful thinking when they predict, oh, it's totally over now.
00:31:22.000The reality is there's still a special magic about cable news, and that magic was a really important force multiplier for the incredible success that Tucker had.
00:31:34.000And so I think that's simply a reality.