The Charlie Kirk Show - Is the American Dream now in El Salvador? with Darren Beattie and Jack Posobiec

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.

00:00:04.000 We talked about, is America becoming a third world country?

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00:01:30.000 Joining us now is Jack Pesobic.

00:01:31.000 Jack, thank you for joining the program.

00:01:33.000 Jack, you have been doing a great job of keeping the pressure on.

00:01:36.000 Where's the manifesto?

00:01:37.000 People are moving on, six dead people in Tennessee. 0.78

00:01:40.000 And we do not yet have the manifesto of the evil psychopath who is rotting in hell, who killed those six Christians.

00:01:47.000 Jack, what is the latest?

00:01:49.000 Charlie, 52 days. 0.99

00:01:51.000 It has now been 52 days that Audrey Hale has been rotting in hell.

00:01:56.000 And you know what's interesting?

00:01:57.000 When I bring that up, and I actually like to get your perspective on this as well, because when I bring that up, there are people that I get in my comments, Christians, who say, oh, Jack, there you go judging.

00:02:08.000 We can't know.

00:02:09.000 We can't know where Audrey Hale is.

00:02:12.000 We don't know.

00:02:13.000 Maybe there was a repentance.

00:02:14.000 There was something.

00:02:15.000 I said, she was firing at police officers in the commission of an act of, as Catholics, we would call mortal sin, attempting to murder police officers when she was killed. 0.64

00:02:27.000 So please explain to me that repentance.

00:02:29.000 I will say, Jack, admittedly, as a Catholic, you actually, the church does not make claims ever on eternity.

00:02:36.000 It's mostly Protestants.

00:02:37.000 So as you've been posting this, Jack, I've been curious, can you just tell, can you build that out a little bit?

00:02:43.000 Because typically, you know, Catholic Church dogma and orthodoxy does not make any authoritative claims on, you know, let's just say eternal destinations of people.

00:02:55.000 Well, we do because of sainthood.

00:02:59.000 So that's essentially what bestowing sainthood is all about, that you're conferring that that person, the church is coming out and saying, yes, this person is in heaven.

00:03:08.000 Of course, that is only done.

00:03:10.000 It's very rare.

00:03:11.000 It's seen as one of the highest honors that you could be given in the church, probably the highest.

00:03:17.000 But as far as this situation, when you look at the case here, the question is always, did this person repent of their sins before they went to meet their Maker?

00:03:30.000 In this case, we know.

00:03:32.000 And it's actually more closely tied to the doctrine of repentance rather than making that any question about destination because that's what it's all about in the Catholic Church.

00:03:42.000 Did you make a positive, full, actual atonement for your sins before you die?

00:03:49.000 And that doesn't mean with, For example, suicide is another case like that, where we believe that in suicide, it was some kind of unless there was mental illness involved that you're not really sure about, but if it was a direct act of a mortal sin, then no, that's no, there's no purgatory there.

00:04:10.000 You're done.

00:04:11.000 So, so then, Jack, super interesting element there.

00:04:15.000 We can keep exploring it.

00:04:15.000 We have Taylor Marshall next hour that I'll definitely get his take on it.

00:04:18.000 But let me, so, Jack, is it true that the school is now filing a claim or a motion to not have the manifesto released?

00:04:27.000 What is that all about?

00:04:28.000 Right.

00:04:28.000 Okay.

00:04:29.000 So, there's two pieces of news that we actually have out as in the last 24 hours on this.

00:04:34.000 And I think a lot of people have been, you know, just moving on to the next thing, saying, oh, well, you know, let's forget about that story.

00:04:42.000 There's something else.

00:04:43.000 There's a Bud Light commercial.

00:04:44.000 There's a Miller Light commercial.

00:04:45.000 And I'm guilty of this as well, of just following the news cycle.

00:04:49.000 It's kind of part of our business, right?

00:04:52.000 You want to tell people what the news is going to be, but we can't let these stories go because the left doesn't do this, Charlie.

00:04:56.000 The left is still talking about Charlottesville.

00:04:59.000 The left is still talking about January 6th.

00:05:02.000 The left is still talking about Russia Gate, even though we know that it's been completely debunked actually this week.

00:05:07.000 They'll still find some way to cling to it.

00:05:09.000 What do we know in the last 24 hours?

00:05:11.000 Yes, that the school Covenant Church School has filed a motion to block the release of the manifesto, and they're claiming so because they believe there could be a security risk to the school.

00:05:28.000 They're trying to block it on those sites.

00:05:30.000 So they filed a claim with the city.

00:05:32.000 Now, you've also seen the local police union, as well as the Tennessee Firearms Union, has also put in motions to release the manifesto, we're told at this point.

00:05:44.000 One of the other pieces of news that I've seen in the last 24 hours is actually a count up in nationalreview.com right now of a writer.

00:05:53.000 Apparently, his wife actually worked at the school.

00:05:56.000 One of the things that we're being told in this account, which is he goes through the theology of it, he goes through forgiveness, the question of should we allow this transgression, should we allow hate, should we allow evil, but also points out that at one point during the shooting, Audrey Hale took a detour from shooting the children, turned and actually went up to the church itself where they have a stained glass window.

00:06:21.000 And if you remember the images of the church that we saw from this, it's actually a beautiful church they have right there.

00:06:27.000 It's a neo-Gothic construction.

00:06:29.000 It looks like something out of Europe from 500 years ago. 0.77

00:06:33.000 There was a stained glass picture of Adam, the first man, and Audrey Hale actually stood in front of it and then fired into that stained glass window of Adam, the first man.

00:06:43.000 So you really have to look at the symbology of that, a transgender, so a female who was trying to become a man, destroying the image of God's created first man. 1.00

00:06:56.000 And when I hear people say, oh, this wasn't an anti-Christian attack, when I look at something like that, you really can't escape the religious, the biological, so much symbology and iconography there.

00:07:09.000 Yeah, so it's a mystery.

00:07:10.000 I mean, what on earth would be the reason why the school would not want this manifesto to be public?

00:07:14.000 And is there any truth, Jack, to the claim that the school or other people were paid for the funeral of the killer?

00:07:20.000 Is that true?

00:07:21.000 I've seen some whispers about that.

00:07:23.000 So I've certainly seen reporting on that.

00:07:26.000 And Peachy Keenan on Twitter, who writes for American Mind out of Claremont, was reporting that.

00:07:33.000 This was also based on, as far as I know, personal reporting.

00:07:37.000 They knew somebody who was involved with the school that saying that, yes, they had actually paid for the memorial service.

00:07:44.000 I believe she also writes at the Federalist that just came out.

00:07:47.000 She contributed there.

00:07:50.000 But I haven't seen anyone else report on that publicly, that the school and the families, presumably, of the school actually paid for the funeral of this murderous psychopath.

00:08:01.000 Yeah, Jack, this is so interesting.

00:08:03.000 And then, so what then, in the one minute remaining, Jack, do you think we're going to get our eyes on the manifesto at any point?

00:08:10.000 I think it's going to come out, Charlie.

00:08:11.000 I think there's too much pressure on it at this point.

00:08:13.000 That's also incumbent on why on shows like this, on the Charlie Kirk show, what we do over at Human Events, we have to keep the pressure on because Republicans, Democrats, the transgender movement, they would love for this story to go away.

00:08:27.000 For some reason, I don't know why there aren't protests in the streets to be able to see this thing right now because the public has a right to know, Charlie.

00:08:36.000 Look, when it's one of these situations that involves someone they claim is on the right, or somebody followed Charlie Kirk or followed Jack Posovic, it's everywhere.

00:08:44.000 It's every headline, and then they mention it in the same breath as you for the rest of your life.

00:08:48.000 No, in this case, we absolutely need to have this thing out.

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00:10:03.000 So, Jack, several topics here I want to explore with you.

00:10:08.000 What is the latest with the hero from New York?

00:10:11.000 Which, by the way, Jack, I'd love your comment on this before we go any further.

00:10:15.000 Daniel Penny, which, by the way, is not to be confused with Perry, right, in Texas, Jack?

00:10:22.000 Am I getting that correct?

00:10:23.000 There's a Perry and a penny right now in kind of somewhat similar situations.

00:10:26.000 Exactly.

00:10:27.000 Okay, yeah, it's confusing.

00:10:29.000 It's kind of one of those simulation things.

00:10:32.000 But I will say, Charlie, I appreciate you bringing it up, and we've brought it up on Human Events as well.

00:10:36.000 Just because Penny is getting, the New York case is getting all the attention right now, we still cannot forget the fact that Daniel Perry in down in Austin, Texas, is currently in Texas jail because he was sentenced to 25 years because he used his firearm to defend himself against a crazed leftist who was pointing an AK-47 at him,

00:11:00.000 a Soros DA in blue of the blue, Austin, Texas, and an Austin jury decided to find him guilty, took an all-day trial, found him guilty.

00:11:09.000 Abbott says that he needs to wait for the parole board to get back with this ruling.

00:11:14.000 He says he's going to pardon him, but right now, Daniel Perry is behind bars.

00:11:18.000 Okay, so there is a Daniel Perry and Daniel Penny.

00:11:23.000 So Daniel, this is one thing that gives me hope, Jack.

00:11:26.000 The Wall Street Journal, which is not Breitbart, it's not Citizen Free Press.

00:11:31.000 It's not American Greatness, but it's necessary.

00:11:33.000 I read the journal every day.

00:11:34.000 Right?

00:11:35.000 The journal is an important institution, a little more neoliberal than I would like for my taste or flavor.

00:11:41.000 But honestly, God bless the journal for being in 10 million homes every day.

00:11:44.000 I think it does make the country more center-right than not.

00:11:47.000 Okay, but they're definitely more regime.

00:11:49.000 Would you agree, Jack?

00:11:50.000 They're not a radical, you know, right-wing paper like we are.

00:11:54.000 The Wall Street Journal has come out with an article, Free Daniel Penny.

00:12:01.000 This is extraordinary stuff, Jack.

00:12:03.000 This would not have happened five years ago, Jack, to have the Wall Street Journal coming out.

00:12:09.000 And look, this is what's amazing.

00:12:10.000 Let me read this paragraph.

00:12:12.000 At first glance, what happened in New York on the subway looked like a replay of George Floyd, the black Minneapolis man who, at the death of the hands of white police officers, that sparked 2020 riots.

00:12:22.000 AOC played her part accordingly, calling the death a public execution.

00:12:26.000 But we think Mr. Bragg is losing the narrative here.

00:12:30.000 Even before Neely's death, Bragg was notorious district attorney, goes on to say that this guy's a good Samaritan.

00:12:35.000 Mr. Penny knew nothing of the history.

00:12:37.000 He was trying to do the right thing.

00:12:39.000 Jack, I got to be honest.

00:12:40.000 I think that this is the righteous radicalization of center-right media.

00:12:45.000 What are your thoughts, Jack?

00:12:47.000 Charlie, what you're seeing here, and I know you've been talking about that on the show recently, is that there's this huge awakening right now of the center-right, and people in the center are now moving more to the right.

00:13:00.000 Of course, you're seeing this with Elon Musk, you're seeing this with others, that because the left has now gone so far and they're in so many positions of power, you're talking about Bragg, another Soros DA, right?

00:13:13.000 Because George Soros identified this arbitrage situation where he could come in and for pennies on the dollar enact this massive influence over our cities, a massive influence over our society by simply putting in these prosecutors that decided to completely throw out the rule of law and the norms that have held our society together here in the West for thousands of years in our civilization.

00:13:43.000 They've just decided to use that as their own plaything, which is something that the founders never believed that this would happen.

00:13:50.000 Now, of course, you are seeing a massive backlash to this.

00:13:53.000 The one, I believe her name is Kim Gardner out in St. Louis. 0.72

00:13:57.000 She just resigned as she was under investigation. 0.80

00:14:01.000 They were about to remove her.

00:14:02.000 I hear she's in nursing school right now, which actually horrifies me.

00:14:05.000 I hope that they never put her anywhere near a patient involved with health.

00:14:10.000 And you're also seeing, Charlie, a shift, I think, that will bear out politically going into the 2024 election because everything that goes on right now has to be viewed through that lens.

00:14:24.000 That the country is now getting a full-on taste of the far-left wokus government under Joe Biden.

00:14:33.000 I think that's right.

00:14:33.000 And they don't like it.

00:14:34.000 And Jack, I also think the credit is to Bannon and to you and to this program.

00:14:38.000 We have changed narratives early.

00:14:41.000 I mean, think about it, Jack.

00:14:42.000 If we would have just been a little bit vanilla, no, we came in hard for Daniel Penny, right?

00:14:47.000 We came in hard and we define the narrative and then we create, we move the Overton window.

00:14:52.000 And I just have to say, the Overton window is one of the most important communication analytical explanations and tools.

00:15:02.000 I've explained it many times in this program.

00:15:04.000 I'm happy to again.

00:15:04.000 We're out of time here, Jack, but the Wall Street Journal comes in.

00:15:08.000 This would not have happened five years ago. 0.97

00:15:10.000 Five years ago, the Wall Street Journal would have been afraid of being called a racist because a white guy put a black guy in a chokehold, despite the black guy being a schizophrenic, multi-repeated criminal maniac and disturbing the peace on a subway. 0.98

00:15:25.000 This is a good sign, everybody. 0.98

00:15:27.000 This is a good sign.

00:15:28.000 Jack, thanks so much.

00:15:29.000 Talk to you soon.

00:15:30.000 Appreciate it, Charlie.

00:15:34.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:16:35.000 Joining us now is Darren Beattie from Revolver.news, website I visit every single day.

00:16:41.000 This is a very interesting story.

00:16:42.000 Exclusive, the headline is the American dream has become the American scam, and these five foreign real estate options prove it.

00:16:51.000 Darren, what do you mean by this?

00:16:53.000 Tell us about it.

00:16:54.000 Well, this is kind of an interesting exclusive in the same vein as something we did that was a kind of surprising hit, or if you can't say hit, it certainly became very popular and generated a lot of discussion, which is a piece that actually looked at American subways and compared those to the subways and the rail systems in various cities in the world,

00:17:21.000 not just places that we'd expect to have clean and well-functioning rails, but all sorts of places.

00:17:28.000 In fact, one of the kind of darkly ironic things we discovered in this is that North Korea actually has cleaner subways than New York City. 0.76

00:17:38.000 But I guess, you know, we get the dystopia, we get the tyranny of North Korea. 0.79

00:17:42.000 We don't even get the clean subway.

00:17:43.000 So this is in the same vein as this.

00:17:48.000 And I think it's important for a lot of people to understand just how much the standard of living is collapsing in America.

00:17:57.000 And of course, one of the best barometers for that is real estate.

00:18:00.000 Where can you live?

00:18:02.000 Where can you buy a house?

00:18:03.000 Where can you buy a place?

00:18:04.000 And what do you get for it?

00:18:05.000 And I think a lot of Americans, especially people the millennial age and older, are stuck in this outdated software kind of imprinted in the 90s when America was the place to be.

00:18:19.000 We were the best.

00:18:20.000 Whenever you traveled overseas as an American in the 90s, you were the rock star.

00:18:27.000 Everyone wanted to go to America.

00:18:28.000 That's where the cutting edge was.

00:18:30.000 That's where the best technology was.

00:18:32.000 That's where you had to be.

00:18:34.000 Now it's anything but.

00:18:36.000 I'm hearing countless stories of Americans traveling overseas to Mexico City, for example.

00:18:42.000 I mean, did you see that story where there's over 30,000 Americans that have moved to Mexico City in the last year and a half?

00:18:49.000 It's amazing.

00:18:50.000 And it's not just Mexico City.

00:18:52.000 It's all over the world.

00:18:54.000 It's Portugal.

00:18:55.000 It's Central America.

00:18:57.000 It's if you want an ultra technologically advanced place, you can go to these sort of middleman cities like Dubai, Singapore, that are, you know, seem like they should be a half a century into the future compared to the United States.

00:19:12.000 Then there's also the issue of affordability.

00:19:15.000 You know, before getting into these interesting real estate options overseas, in this specific piece, we show just how much people are getting scammed, you know, having to pay a million dollars for a meh-type property in Nashville, Tennessee. 0.56

00:19:32.000 People in America don't understand just how much you're getting ripped off and scammed.

00:19:38.000 You're living in San Francisco now, you're paying prices that could easily get you one, if not two or three palaces in other well-developed countries.

00:19:49.000 And instead, you're paying for a coffin-like apartment.

00:19:53.000 That's right, um, just by sidewalks where you have homeless people defecating in the streets, and you're lucky to be able to walk across the block without getting mugged or raped. 0.57

00:20:04.000 This is the condition the country is really fallen into.

00:20:10.000 And the reason I publish a piece like this, which is very provocative but interesting and true, is that it's really important that we not lose sight of how far things have gone.

00:20:24.000 Because if we start to think of the present state of America as the new normal, we won't have any idea of demanding anything better.

00:20:32.000 So, as uncomfortable as it is, as difficult a pill as it is to swallow, that in so many key metrics, America is no longer a first world country, we need to swallow that pill.

00:20:44.000 One, just to have a more worldly perspective on how things actually are.

00:20:49.000 But secondly, we need to understand and work with that reality in order to improve.

00:20:55.000 And if you have money in America, you can kind of insulate yourself from some of this, right?

00:21:01.000 I mean, you can kind of still get a four to five to six to eight million dollar home and live a nice life.

00:21:08.000 But you look at this article, you know, Revolver.news, you have this picture of a shack, and I don't mean that in a pejorative way, okay?

00:21:16.000 But it's not, I wouldn't say this is an overly beautiful home.

00:21:20.000 It's a starter home.

00:21:21.000 Let's put it that way.

00:21:22.000 Let's be nice.

00:21:22.000 Is that right, Darren?

00:21:23.000 Okay, starter home.

00:21:24.000 Fair to say, diplomatic.

00:21:26.000 Yeah, I'm being diplomatic.

00:21:27.000 It's three-bedroom, two-bath, 2,600 square feet for $700,000, Darren, in Nashville, Tennessee.

00:21:37.000 $700,000.

00:21:39.000 And so there's a couple, not everyone.

00:21:42.000 I don't necessarily support moving to Lispin or, you know, moving to Mexico City.

00:21:48.000 I'm an American.

00:21:49.000 I'm here to stay.

00:21:50.000 I still think this country has so much left to offer.

00:21:52.000 But you're right, Darren.

00:21:53.000 The real estate component is very interesting for you to pinpoint because where you live, it becomes the way the American project has worked post-World War II is that has kind of become your bank account, right?

00:22:09.000 You put more money into your house than anything else.

00:22:11.000 You see the values go up.

00:22:13.000 But Darren, most young people are unable to enter the housing market.

00:22:18.000 I mean, we see this with our employees.

00:22:21.000 We see this with our students.

00:22:22.000 They're 28, 29 years old, 31, 32, 35, 36.

00:22:26.000 They're like, I can't afford a down payment.

00:22:28.000 I mean, I can't get into this.

00:22:30.000 You look in Scottsdale to find anything that is, you know, pretty good in Scottsdale.

00:22:36.000 It's five, six, seven, eight hundred thousand.

00:22:39.000 So, Darren, what does this mean then?

00:22:41.000 Does this create cynicism?

00:22:42.000 Does this create revolutionary socialist fervor?

00:22:45.000 Is it a generation of renters?

00:22:46.000 What does this mean?

00:22:48.000 I mean, you make a great point about real estate, and that's always been a key complaint in terms of standard of living, basic sort of metrics for adulthood and so forth.

00:23:02.000 And that's a special issue.

00:23:03.000 But it's not just real estate.

00:23:07.000 There are issues associated with real estate, but it's about quality of life.

00:23:11.000 It's about criminality in the cities themselves.

00:23:16.000 It's about having a clean and safe and well-functioning public transportation system.

00:23:22.000 One really critical part of the collapse of the standard of living in the United States is the fact that public civic spaces are totally destroyed.

00:23:33.000 And public transportation, I think, is probably the most conspicuous, but not the only example of that.

00:23:40.000 So you just get, and so again, it's not necessarily about, oh, moving to Lisbon, moving here or there, but it's so important, I think, for Americans to understand that it doesn't have to be like this.

00:23:53.000 It shouldn't have to be like this.

00:23:55.000 And you can get affordable places.

00:23:58.000 in Portugal that are clean, that are safe, that are in the city, that have great, you know, and healthy food.

00:24:06.000 And all of this is at an affordable price.

00:24:09.000 You ask, why the hell can't we have this in our Americans?

00:24:13.000 Why can't we have a clean and functioning subway system in our cities?

00:24:18.000 Why do you have to pay $700,000 for what you diplomatically call the starter home, but for what people in Portugal, which is not typically known as a first world country, what people in Portugal would describe as probably a shack.

00:24:34.000 How have Americans gotten scammed so hard?

00:24:39.000 And most of them don't even know it because again, a lot of the older Americans, myself included, I'm a millennial, older millennial.

00:24:47.000 I traveled a lot in the 90s all over the world.

00:24:50.000 And whenever you step set foot, Southeast Asia, any of these places in the world, you were treated like a rockstar.

00:24:57.000 America was the place to be.

00:24:58.000 Now there are many cities in Southeast Asia that are far better, far more advanced than most American cities.

00:25:05.000 And that's just the reality that we're in right now.

00:25:08.000 And like I said, we can decide not to swallow that pill and still pretend like America is this preeminent first world, beautiful society like it was as early, you know, as recently as the 90s.

00:25:22.000 Or we can start to acknowledge, man, we still maintain those key metrics of global hegemony.

00:25:29.000 As I pointed out, the dollar is still strong.

00:25:31.000 We still have a very strong military.

00:25:33.000 We have a lot of key features that you need to be a global superpower.

00:25:38.000 But in terms of the standard of living for an average citizen, that has absolutely cratered even relative to other countries that we would typically consider to be less developed than our own.

00:25:52.000 Darren, tell us about this tweet here.

00:25:53.000 FBI revoked an agent's clearance for sharing one of your articles.

00:25:56.000 Tell us about it.

00:25:57.000 Absolutely.

00:25:58.000 Well, if people don't know, there's a lot of things happening with the weaponization committee, a lot of very interesting hearings, and a lot of really disgraceful stories surrounding the persecution of FBI whistleblowers into the misconduct in that agency.

00:26:16.000 And just one story, which I found absolutely remarkable, is that there's one particular agent who is decorated hero, military veteran, did very well in the FBI.

00:26:30.000 And he wasn't even endorsing.

00:26:31.000 He was simply sharing a revolver news article, which is your audience probably knows, as skeptical regarding the official story.

00:26:42.000 It suggests possibility of federal involvement.

00:26:45.000 And this agent simply shared it.

00:26:48.000 And so this FBI agent wasn't necessarily endorsing the revolver thesis.

00:26:53.000 He simply shared the article and said, this is potentially important information.

00:26:57.000 This is for your awareness because the field agencies within the FBI were receiving a ton of political pressure from the Washington office to just go scorched earth on anyone remotely associated with January 6th.

00:27:11.000 And so this guy said, look, this pressure is weird in light of this article suggesting federal involvement.

00:27:17.000 There are a lot of other things that have come out in the whistleblower hearings, including the fact that the feds won't release a lot of footage because they were worried that it would reveal confidential informants and sources and so forth.

00:27:31.000 But the bird's eye view, just the reality that simply sharing a revolver news article on January 6th was considered to be an act of hostility to the United States that justified revocation of this decorated veteran and FBI agent security clearance is pretty remarkable.

00:27:54.000 And it really kind of shows you where we are today: yes, we do have a lot of good people in the FBI, but they're being weeded out.

00:28:03.000 They're people who want to know the truth or reading the truth.

00:28:07.000 But if you share it, they'll take away your clearance and make your life absolutely miserable.

00:28:13.000 It's remarkable.

00:28:14.000 Darren, you probably would have been invited on Tucker Carlson's program to discuss this and more.

00:28:21.000 Tucker is kind of in media purgatory right now.

00:28:24.000 Where do you hear?

00:28:25.000 What are you seeing?

00:28:26.000 What have we learned now a couple weeks post Tucker's forcible removal from the most popular cable television show probably ever?

00:28:35.000 Well, it remains to be seen what his next move is.

00:28:37.000 I'm sure it will be big.

00:28:39.000 I thought the Twitter announcement was interesting, and I suspect we'll have even more interesting things to come out in the near to medium term future.

00:28:48.000 But what's perfectly clear is just how much of a critical asset he was.

00:28:54.000 Fox News is cratering.

00:28:56.000 You know, they're reshuffling their lineup in a desperate attempt to recover some eyeballs.

00:29:02.000 But they made a big gamble.

00:29:04.000 They were saying the thinking at the corporate level was as big as Tucker is, he's just the talent and he's interchangeable.

00:29:14.000 He's dispensable.

00:29:16.000 I think they're learning that he was indispensable because his voice was unique within the American national media landscape.

00:29:24.000 That's why he was indispensable because he spoke for so many people who simply wouldn't have access to this information, these kinds of truths, these kinds of stories, these types of angles.

00:29:38.000 He was unique in the media.

00:29:40.000 And so you can't replace something that's unique.

00:29:42.000 The question is, why doesn't anybody copy him?

00:29:46.000 And well, he's a great television personality.

00:29:50.000 He's very likable.

00:29:51.000 He's very good on screen.

00:29:52.000 But I think another reason is people just don't want to take the incoming that you have to endure when you step outside of the play pin and cover the types of stories that he, in many cases, uniquely was willing to cover.

00:30:07.000 And I think, and I remain extremely grateful to him for amplifying our coverage of January 6th and other things, which wouldn't have received the type of kind of national attention that it got had it not been for his courageous amplification.

00:30:26.000 So about a minute remaining, do you think we're going to start to see a greater trend away from corporate media towards independent media because of this?

00:30:34.000 You know, that's very complicated and it's hard to say.

00:30:38.000 I think in a certain respect, yes.

00:30:42.000 But I'm perhaps in the minority amongst commentators.

00:30:46.000 I still, and I hate that this is the case.

00:30:49.000 I think there's still a magic to TV and that can't quite be replaced by alternative, the digital media.

00:30:57.000 You can have tons of viewers in digital media.

00:30:59.000 You can be Joe Rogan, but even Joe Rogan is missing that special sense of legitimacy, the magic, the imprimatur of being on mainstream cable news.

00:31:11.000 Maybe that will change in the next 10, 20 years, but I think people are kind of projecting wishful thinking when they predict, oh, it's totally over now.

00:31:22.000 The reality is there's still a special magic about cable news, and that magic was a really important force multiplier for the incredible success that Tucker had.

00:31:34.000 And so I think that's simply a reality.

00:31:38.000 And it's not a bad thing.

00:31:40.000 It's simply we need to take this into account when configuring next steps.

00:31:46.000 How can we reproduce that magic or somehow co-opt it?

00:31:51.000 Gotta run.

00:31:51.000 Darren, thank you so much.

00:31:52.000 Everyone, check out Revolver.news.

00:31:54.000 Thank you so much.

00:31:54.000 Appreciate it.

00:31:55.000 Thank you.

00:31:57.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:31:58.000 Everybody, email us your thoughts.

00:31:59.000 As always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:32:01.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 18, 2023

Is the American Dream now in El Salvador? with Darren Beattie and Jack Posobiec

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