00:00:22.000But I'm a little worried that the hyper-focusing on the issue made by the left, the left wants us to focus on it, could spell some doom coming into November.
00:01:06.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:55.000Yeah, thanks, Charlie, for having me as always, man.
00:01:57.000You know, I wouldn't worry too much about the polling, but I'm looking at the same thing with fundraising that you are.
00:02:05.000And, you know, for instance, I really, and I've been saying this for a while, I think leadership, especially since they're losing these fights with MAGA, you know, whatever you want to call it, they're losing a lot of fights with the America First Wing.
00:02:18.000I really don't think they want to win some of these races, you know.
00:02:22.000So my good old pal over there in Michigan 3, John Gibbs, Kevin McCarthy, still hasn't even returned his phone call.
00:03:29.000No, you know, Democrats have typically done better with fundraising, but they've mastered the use of dark money, Charlie, something that they couldn't stand.
00:03:42.000Barack Obama used it in his State of the Union to basically trash Justice Alito.
00:03:46.000And in the end, they embraced it better than anybody.
00:03:51.000So there's also the part of the equation here, which is that Donald Trump is like a vacuum sucking money away from typical entities like the National Republicans.
00:05:02.000We're on Real America's Voice television every day, two hours.
00:05:05.000So I go back home and kind of decompress later in the evening.
00:05:08.000I just turn it on to watch Jack Pesobic.
00:05:10.000This is conservative over-the-top television.
00:05:12.000So you have to buy the ad in conservative OTT, four Mark Kelly ads in a row on conservative media.
00:05:19.000I'm scrolling through to find out when the Ducks of Oregon are playing Georgia, and there are five embedded in the ESPN app of anti-Blake Masters ads, not one four.
00:05:29.000And obviously, you know, we have Blake on the show.
00:05:48.000You know, there's no doubt it will have an impact.
00:05:51.000I just want to say, though, too, that it really does depend on whether or not this ends up being a wave or not, Charlie, because I just used this on the show earlier.
00:06:00.000Look at Sweeney in New Jersey, for instance.
00:06:03.000He got clobbered by a guy who spent $50 or $90 on Dunkin' Donuts in southern Jersey.
00:06:09.000And the Democratic leader in the Senate went down.
00:06:13.000Because, you know, everyone's changing their tune now because they want to make it look better for Democrats.
00:06:17.000But all these so-called models, they're using fundraising as an excuse.
00:06:22.000They're really just moving those polls because of, I mean, they're moving those ratings because of their bad summer polling, which we see every cycle.
00:06:29.000But in the end, if it is a wave, it takes those low, those poor fundraisers with them.
00:06:35.000And I'm not calling Blake a poor fundraiser.
00:07:25.000It's either there are some people who just stink, but something like that is gross fraud.
00:07:31.000Where's the rest of the, you know, because somebody had showed me that poll yesterday and my response was, where's the rest of it?
00:07:37.000You cannot put out a poll that is that ridiculous or distorted from reality.
00:07:41.000By the way, so everybody knows, there was a good old, not even left-wing forecasters believe this stuff.
00:07:48.000There was a good old powwow with the decision desk guys yesterday, and they were just laughing at some of these.
00:07:53.000I mean, everybody knows there's a Republican response bias in the summer, but something that bad, Charlie, when was the last time you saw a competitive Senate race or a competitive governor's race in the state of Pennsylvania end up like that?
00:08:07.000Even in good Democratic years, which nobody expects this one to be.
00:08:12.000They're not, the polls aren't getting any better.
00:08:16.000I think they're suppression polls to keep Oz's fundraising down, to keep Mastriano's fundraising down, to just have people say, oh, well, I guess we're going to lose it.
00:08:24.000I mean, I got an email today and for Ohio, someone emailed us, oh, Charlie, looks like JD's going to lose.
00:08:45.000So when public and media university polling, summer polling has not at all been predictive.
00:08:50.000And I have to say, you know, when it comes to this stuff with JD Vance in Ohio, I was talking with Bloomberg the other day when I was in Dallas, and the reporter was from Bloomberg, I'm from Ohio, Charlie.
00:09:02.000And he was asking me about polling in that race and in Pennsylvania.
00:09:06.000And he's like, look, you know, I'm from Bahoney.
00:10:32.000So, you know, I mean, I think he's doing pretty good for getting, you know, like you said, for going against not only the guy who's the most well-funded Senate candidate ever, but we had to deal with this in Florida with Bill Nelson a little bit.
00:10:44.000This fake moderate NASA astronaut perspective.
00:11:45.000And he made sure incumbents stayed and the new challengers in states that were pro-Trump were ousted, like Joe Donnelly and Claire McCaskill down the line.
00:12:04.000They have money, media, and they have some election infrastructure that they can capitalize on.
00:12:09.000So I'm very pro-life and I'm unapologetic about it.
00:12:12.000But I'm going to be honest, I'm a little bit worried that if it's all about the abortion issue, okay, going into November, that it could hurt some of our candidates.
00:12:27.000Because they're running ads like crazy here in Arizona.
00:12:30.000And I have Republicans coming up to me saying, Charlie, look, I'm pro-life, not as pro-life as you, but my wife no longer likes Blake Masters and, you know, all these people.
00:12:39.000And am I playing too much into their own game here, Rich?
00:12:43.000Yeah, I think at the end of the day, if it's still about abortion by the time the election comes along, then Republicans deserve to lose this election.
00:12:51.000There has never been so much ammunition.
00:12:53.000The media can talk about it all they want.
00:12:55.000But the fact is, Republicans should just stay on message and have a coherent answer.
00:13:00.000And we talked about this with somebody like Walker did not give a great answer.
00:13:04.000There could be some races around the country.
00:13:06.000Gibbs, he's going to have to be a little bit careful in a district like that.
00:13:10.000But as long as you don't come across sounding like Todd Aiken, it really should not harm you.
00:13:16.000They're going to try to force that hand, though, right?
00:14:03.000That could actually hurt the cause for life.
00:14:04.000So let me ask you, Rich, again, so can you just help me navigate this?
00:14:08.000I'm a little worried that if Republicans are not able to message on the abortion issue or if it becomes the primary issue, we lose, which actually is bad for the cause for life.
00:14:16.000And trust me, I'm not one to back away from a fight.
00:14:18.000Everyone knows that, but I want to win.
00:14:20.000I don't think it's wise to go in a direction or talk in a way that you're not necessarily literate.
00:15:31.000It would be historic if a first-term, incumbent midterm party with an unpopular president was allowed to use a single wedge issue to basically dominate the narrative across the board nationally.
00:15:42.000We did see people blow races on abortion before Todd Aiken.
00:17:31.000You got to divide Maricopa into six different buckets and focus on the ones you can win on and lose less than the ones you're going to lose downtown.
00:18:55.000You rarely see this kind of focus and commitment.
00:18:57.000They recently shared with me that they are doubling down and want to literally double their total number of happy customers in the next year.
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00:19:36.000GOP slashes ads in key Senate battlegrounds.
00:19:40.000The NRSC has canceled over $10 million in ad buys as candidates struggle with fundraising.
00:19:48.000As midterm election campaigns heat up in the Senate top battlegrounds, the National Republican Senatorial Committee is canceling millions of dollars of ad spending.
00:19:58.000The cuts, totaling $13.5 million since August 1st, come as the Republican Senate campaign committee is being forced to stretch every dollar we can.
00:20:08.000Republican nominees in critical states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, places the Republicans must defend this fall, have failed to raise enough money to get themselves on air, requiring the NRSC to make cuts elsewhere to accommodate.
00:20:22.000Since August 1, the NRSC has cut ad buys in battleground states of Pennsylvania, $7.5 million, Arizona, $3.5 million, Wisconsin, $2.5 million, and Nevada, $1.5 million.
00:20:33.000One Republican strategist says, what the hell is going on?
00:20:54.000When you call your voters traitors and you treat them so terribly with small dollar fundraising repeatedly, then don't be surprised when all of a sudden people don't want to give you money anymore.
00:21:11.000So look, the Democrats have no money disadvantage at all.
00:21:16.000I'm going to continue in the politico article.
00:21:19.000And for those of you that are listening on radio, just so you understand, this text message that I'm referencing is just one of many sent out by what I believe sabotaging Republican consultants who send out these messages so forcefully, so repeatedly, so aggressively that it almost looks as if they're sabotaging the Republican Party.
00:21:44.000This is one sent out to Republican voters.
00:22:45.000We did a whole show on this weeks ago and we received very warm response from you at freedom at charliekirk.com, warm meaning you agreed with me.
00:23:09.000For example, an easy couple hundred grand you might be able to raise used to be able to go work the phones and call Pfizer, call AstraZeneca, call Moderna, call their lobbyists, call the people representing them.
00:23:24.000One fundraiser, hear about their nonsense, promise you'll never look into vaccine adverse events, talk about how everyone needs vaccines, about how it's this wonderful medical technology.
00:23:34.000Next thing you know, your campaign coffers are full and you can go up with ads in the state of Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Arizona.
00:23:39.000Republicans aren't really willing to do that.
00:23:41.000And corporations, they no longer want to do that.
00:24:30.000But if we're not even able to get up on TV at all, I can tell you in Arizona right now, Blake Masters, everywhere I go, it's anti-Blake Masters.
00:25:17.000You know, the good thing is the people in Ohio are just frustrated with Biden and Tim Ryan.
00:25:21.000They're frustrated with the fact that these guys have made energy way more expensive than it needs to be.
00:25:26.000They're frustrated with the fact that they're so radical on every issue to where if you think that we should have a secure southern border in this country, then Tim Ryan and Joe Biden basically think that you're a racist.
00:25:36.000And I always tell people, look, we've got a ton of fentanyl pouring into our state that's killing a lot of our people.
00:25:43.000We've got to defend that southern border and actually shut it down.
00:25:46.000But the one thing that he does have going for him is just a ton of money.
00:25:50.000And so I always tell people, if you want to help us out, go to jdvance.com because the National Democrats, Charlie, have built this incredible national fundraising platform.
00:26:00.000It's actually, in some ways, impressive.
00:26:02.000Of course, part of what's going on is that they have the advantage of the big technology companies.
00:26:06.000And so if you look at the censorship of a Republican fundraising email, the rate at which it's put into people's spam filters, into people's junk box folders, and you compare that to Democratic fundraising emails, I mean, it's crazy.
00:26:19.000It's like 80% of Republican emails are getting filtered.
00:26:22.000Maybe 5% of Democrat fundraising emails are getting filtered.
00:26:25.000So we're really in a fundraising war where the Democrats have aligned with the big tech industry.
00:26:31.000And because of it, we need all the help that we can get.
00:26:33.000If we get it, though, if we're able to tell our story, Charlie, I'm not worried about our race at all.
00:26:38.000And I think we are going to have a red wave because people are fed up.
00:26:41.000So can you build that out a little bit more?
00:26:43.000Because this is a very curious thing to our audience, which is talk about Act Blue just a little bit.
00:26:49.000And we just did a whole segment before this, JD, on how Democrats have more money than they know what to do with, how it's coming in from out of state, and how some Republican groups are cutting back actually advertising that they would have otherwise thought that they would get.
00:27:04.000Because our audience is not used to that.
00:27:06.000Usually Republicans are the ones that have more corporate money and all that, but that's no longer the case, it seems.
00:27:12.000No, it's really changed in part because a lot of the corporations, of course, have been bullied and cowed into completely avoiding politics, even when their interests align with Republican Party values.
00:27:21.000I mean, these people have gone so woke.
00:27:23.000They're being harassed by their employees.
00:27:25.000So they've completely gone to the left side of the political spectrum.
00:27:29.000And at the same time, like if you look at my Democrat opponent, Tim Ryan, right, this guy pretends to be a moderate, of course, he votes with Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden 100% of the time.
00:27:38.000But all of his money is coming from out of state.
00:27:40.000The guy has no support organically within the state of Ohio.
00:27:44.000It's all coming from New York, from California, from Illinois, from Massachusetts.
00:27:48.000Now, so take just an example, one of the biggest companies that's supporting him, of course, it's Google, arguably the most powerful technology company in the entire world.
00:27:57.000It's not just that Google's leadership is supporting Tim Ryan.
00:28:00.000It's not just that the Silicon Valley leadership is.
00:28:07.000So think these employees, they're maybe not super wealthy, but they're certainly doing a lot better off than the average American.
00:28:13.000And if every single one of those employees writes $100 check to 20 different Democrats, and that's what they do through this ActBlue digital fundraising platform, Charlie, and it's a huge advantage for the left.
00:28:24.000And so, I mean, there is a Republican equivalent called Win Red, but it hasn't gotten even close to what the left has been able to do.
00:28:32.000And if so, you go to actblue.com, they've raised over $10.6 billion for Democrat causes.
00:28:39.000And I mean, the same way that a, you know, someone from Ohio would, Middleton, Ohio would tie to their church, a liberal in Tacoma, Washington ties their candidates.
00:28:51.000They look at it with religious fervor and zeal.
00:28:54.000So let's talk about this Inflation Reduction Act.
00:29:01.000Of course, he voted for it, Charlie, after parading around the state in his TV commercials saying that he wanted a middle-class tax cut for the people of Ohio, which, of course, is a good idea and a ridiculous coming from Tim Ryan because he's never voted for a tax cut in his life.
00:29:16.000And of course, he voted for a middle-class tax increase, which is one of the things the Inflation Reduction Act does.
00:29:22.000The other thing it does, of course, it does many things.
00:29:24.000One of the other things it does is hire 87,000 IRS agents that will be used against small and medium-sized businesses all across the state of Ohio.
00:29:33.000And still, the final thing that it does is it puts a ton of money into the green energy boondoggles, even though we know that most of the green energy stuff comes from the Chinese Communist Party.
00:29:46.000So in the name of supporting America's working class, the Democrats, including Tim Ryan, have dumped a ton of money into the Chinese Communist Party and a bunch of IRS agents to harass middle-class Americans.
00:30:01.000It's one of these things that when we get power in Washington in 2022, we really need to change this stuff and try to defund a lot of what's in the Inflation Reduction Act.
00:30:10.000But it does nothing to reduce inflation.
00:30:12.000It's the Inflation Corruption Act, and it's going to cause a lot of problems in addition to the extra inflation.
00:30:17.000So a question we're getting from a lot of people is: how do we roll back these 87,000 new IRS agents?
00:30:24.000I gave this advice to Blake Masters right on the air, and you and Blake have something in common, first of which I'm enthusiastically behind you guys.
00:30:31.000The second of which is you're both running against candidates who didn't just voice support for, they casted votes for 87,000 new IRS agents.
00:30:40.000And so just talk about what your plan would be to hopefully not a little bit of oversight, but have some removal of these agents or something.
00:30:49.000I mean, can we reallocate IRS agents to the border?
00:31:28.000If they hire 7,000 additional IRS agents, okay, whatever, maybe not perfect, but it's the 80,000 on top of that that we really have to stop.
00:31:36.000I want to just emphasize a visual here.
00:32:41.000So one, just look at the statistics of the current audit rates, Charlie.
00:32:45.000So, you know, we have 800 billionaires in this country.
00:32:48.000The left says that these agents are going to go after the billionaires.
00:32:51.000But even with the IRS agents that we have right now, you're much more likely to be audited if you're a middle-class guy, if you're a working-class guy.
00:32:58.000Disproportionate share of the targets are these guys.
00:33:01.000Now, very often, of course, the IRS finds that you didn't do anything wrong.
00:33:05.000But as you know, Charlie, the problem is not that these IRS agents are going to find a wrongdoing.
00:33:11.000The problem is that they're going to harass people and make them go through expensive processes in order to clear their name.
00:33:17.000And let's say, you know, you don't owe any additional tax to the IRS.
00:33:23.000You don't owe anything extra to the IRS, but you do have to pay a lawyer a couple thousand dollars to make sure that you don't get anything against you.
00:33:55.000That is someone who has never had to battle these regulatory agencies.
00:33:59.000So, JD, I want to broaden this a little bit.
00:34:01.000The last week, we have seen kind of this incredible aggression and advance from the fourth branch of government, FBI, IRS, at every level.
00:34:13.000This is something where the Senate has a lot of power.
00:34:16.000And if we take back the Senate, what is your mandate going to be to be an effective check and balance against this out-of-control fourth branch of government?
00:34:26.000Well, you know, one of the things, of course, is just defunding the agencies like these additional 87,000 IRS agents that are going to go and harass normal Americans, Charlie.
00:34:36.000You know, I've criticized the FBI raid on Trump's own because I simply think that if you're going to do that to a former president, a likely future presidential candidate, you got to have an extraordinary justification to do it.
00:34:47.000And the one pushback I've gotten that I think is fair is: well, look, you have to let the process play out.
00:34:51.000And my argument is one of the ways in which the process plays out is for the Senate to provide oversight of the Department of Justice leadership.
00:35:00.000Because if we've learned anything about our government in the last couple of years, it's that Merrick Garland, the guy who harasses parents for protesting at school board meetings, is a corrupt political actor and he needs to be investigated.
00:35:11.000So, yes, we need to let the process work out.
00:35:13.000And part of that is ensuring the Senate exercises proper oversight.
00:35:18.000I don't think our voters are going to stand for it, but even if they would, the right thing to do is to ensure that these hyper-political actors face some investigation and potentially some prosecution if they've broken the law when they do these things that threaten the basic public trust that Americans have in their government.
00:36:50.000I think President Trump said recently we need to bring the temperature down a little bit.
00:36:54.000Sending the DOJ after, excuse me, the DOJ leadership going after the former president and posting videos of the internet of armed IRS agents, that's raising the temperature in the country.
00:37:06.000These people actually care about our democracy.
00:37:08.000If they actually care about peace and stability in this country, they need to chill out a little bit because they're doing things that make everybody a little angrier, a little more frustrated.
00:37:19.000And if they really care about this country, they say they do, they should be trying to reduce the temperature, not increase it.
00:38:00.000That's the northeastern part of the state.
00:38:02.000Not too far, actually, Charlie, from Youngstown, where I understand Ron DeSantis actually has some family, but also one of our great and proud manufacturing capitals, not just of Ohio, but really of the entire country.
00:38:13.000You know, one of these places where 50 years ago, it was possible to raise a family on a single middle-class skill worker's income.
00:38:20.000And now the community has just been devastated because some of the decisions that have been made by Tim Ryan, but look, we're being honest, bad decisions that have been made by bipartisan leaders for 30 years.
00:38:30.000The real problem with Tim Ryan is not that he's a radical departure.
00:38:33.000It's that he's the same thing that has failed this country and failed this state for the past 20 years.
00:38:38.000He actually represents Youngstown, and it's one of the areas that has lost the most in terms of prosperity in our state over the last 20 years.
00:38:45.000Yeah, a good friend of mine who passed away, a big donor of Turning Point, was from Hubbard, Ohio.
00:38:50.000And I went to there for his funeral and I saw it.
00:38:52.000Boy, you want to see deindustrialized America drive through Hubbard, Ohio.
00:38:55.000A lot of dollar stores, not a lot of manufacturing plants anymore.
00:38:58.000So there's an interesting email here, JD.
00:39:01.000In regards to why our candidates aren't doing as well, I'd like to remind you that middle-class Americans are now paying over $100 a week more in groceries, $450 a gallon for gas.
00:39:11.000There's no money left to send support.
00:39:13.000I've donated in the past, and they have what seems our party with money had gotten us into this situation.
00:39:18.000I'm praying we didn't pull this off, get our country back.
00:39:20.000It's interesting, JD, this kind of more broadly, as the Republican Party becomes more of a working class party with inflation.
00:39:27.000That actually might be one of the reasons why it's harder to raise money right now.
00:39:34.000It's one of the things that's happened is that as our people have become more middle class, more working class, and I'm proud of that, right?
00:39:41.000I want our party to go in that direction because those are the people who built this country with their bare hands.
00:39:46.000At the same time, they're getting crushed by Tim Ryan and Joe Biden's policies more than anybody else.
00:39:50.000So it's not surprising they don't have the same, you know, the same income laying around that they can donate to political candidates.
00:39:56.000I'd say give what you can, but whatever you can do, help us out because we're going to win this race and we're going to make it easier for those people to live a good life in this country.
00:40:05.000And then, secondly, there's another person who's, that's why I love our audience.
00:40:22.000We heard this today, and I'll try to anonymize this so nobody gets in trouble.
00:40:27.000But we had somebody reach out, good friend of mine, great people.
00:40:31.000They said that a journalist reached out to them and was asking them questions.
00:40:35.000And at the same time, they were called by anonymous Democratic investigators and basically told, if you talk to this journalist, we're going to make life harder for you.
00:40:44.000So people are getting harassed out there.
00:40:50.000I don't want to breach any confidentiality because people have really confided in me.
00:40:54.000I know of at least 20 to 25 active audits and investigations that are completely baseless of hyper-political people right now that have given substantially, that are outspoken, that are vocal, at least 20 to 25.
00:41:07.000And they come to me and they say, Charlie, do you know about, don't say anything yet because it's ongoing.
00:41:11.000And isn't kind of also the process, the punishment in some of this, right, JD?
00:41:15.000They string it on for five or seven or nine years sometimes because for them, they get paid all the same.
00:41:20.000But if they can rob you of your inner peace or some money, it doesn't matter if there's a crime or not.
00:41:26.000They'll just throw you through the ringer.
00:41:29.000One of the most annoying things, just to go back to this 87,000 IRS agent story, is people will say, well, if you pay your taxes, you don't need to worry about being audited.
00:41:38.000You know, like, aren't those people who say that supposed to be the social justice warriors when you say to somebody who's indicted for a criminal charge?
00:41:46.000Oh, well, if you're innocent, you don't need to hire an attorney.
00:42:17.000And I don't know the guy's story, but let's be honest: Tim Ryan's obligation is not to people who broke the laws to get into this country.
00:42:24.000His obligation is to people who are dying because of the drugs and the crime that we're letting come across the southern border.
00:42:31.000You owe an obligation to American citizens and American citizens first.
00:42:35.000So that's the problem with this entire border situation.
00:42:38.000It's not that there aren't good people.
00:42:39.000It's not that there aren't reasons for compassion.
00:42:42.000It's that if you're an elected leader of this country, your obligation ought to be to the people who are dying at record rates.
00:42:47.000And it's not just Charlie, the opioid problem, it's not just about the people who are affected by it directly.
00:42:53.000Think of the generation of young kids who have been orphaned by this because their parents can't take care of them.
00:42:58.000Think of the grandparents living on a fixed income who are now taking care of grandkids they weren't expecting to take care of.
00:43:04.000This poison coming across the southern border is one of the main problems in our country, and it is despicable that Tim Ryan doesn't care at all about it.
00:43:13.000JDvance.com, you can go support JD directly.