The Charlie Kirk Show - August 18, 2022


Is the “Red Wave” in Real Trouble? Rich Baris & J.D Vance Discuss


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Rich Barris talks to Charlie Kirk about where things stand heading into the midterms and why he thinks things are not where they should be heading into November. He also talks about why the Democrats are doing so well in fundraising and why the Republicans are not.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:02.000 Where are the midterm stand?
00:00:03.000 I'm getting nervous, nervous, nervous.
00:00:05.000 Things are not where they should be heading into November.
00:00:08.000 Rich Barris talks to us about that, and I'd love your thoughts.
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00:00:15.000 Do you think that the abortion issue is one that we could potentially lose on in November?
00:00:19.000 Now, I'm 100% pro-life.
00:00:21.000 You guys know that.
00:00:22.000 But I'm a little worried that the hyper-focusing on the issue made by the left, the left wants us to focus on it, could spell some doom coming into November.
00:00:30.000 Maybe I'm wrong.
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00:00:44.000 Here we go.
00:00:45.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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00:01:30.000 I'll be very honest.
00:01:31.000 I'm getting worried about November.
00:01:32.000 I am not confident.
00:01:34.000 So maybe my friend and the great pollster can convince me otherwise.
00:01:39.000 Rich Barris is with us.
00:01:41.000 Rich, welcome back to the program.
00:01:43.000 I'm getting increasingly worried and nervous.
00:01:46.000 I'm seeing Republicans not raise as much money.
00:01:49.000 I'm seeing some polling slips.
00:01:51.000 Am I wrong?
00:01:53.000 What's going on here, Rich?
00:01:55.000 Yeah, thanks, Charlie, for having me as always, man.
00:01:57.000 You know, I wouldn't worry too much about the polling, but I'm looking at the same thing with fundraising that you are.
00:02:05.000 And, you know, for instance, I really, and I've been saying this for a while, I think leadership, especially since they're losing these fights with MAGA, you know, whatever you want to call it, they're losing a lot of fights with the America First Wing.
00:02:18.000 I really don't think they want to win some of these races, you know.
00:02:22.000 So my good old pal over there in Michigan 3, John Gibbs, Kevin McCarthy, still hasn't even returned his phone call.
00:02:29.000 So, and he's not the only one.
00:02:32.000 So, you know, all of these races where we have seen their people lose.
00:02:38.000 And then what normally happens, folks, is that the primary shows up.
00:02:41.000 The Republican Party gets a nominee.
00:02:44.000 And then everyone, you know, gets on the same page and figures out how they can help each other.
00:02:50.000 And they do that.
00:02:51.000 In this cycle, in this case, or in these cases, this cycle, they're not doing that.
00:02:57.000 So a lot of candidates are forced to rely on other groups if they had alliances, but they're ready for spending.
00:03:04.000 But that's not the way it should be.
00:03:07.000 This is something that's intentional this year, Charlie.
00:03:09.000 Yeah, so let me ask you this, Rich, and then we can go into some specific state-by-state stuff.
00:03:13.000 Why is it that Republicans are being so outraged?
00:03:16.000 I have my personal opinions.
00:03:17.000 I've gone through them prior, but it is a blowout.
00:03:20.000 Democrats are outraising us eight to one, 10 to 1, 15 to 1 in certain races.
00:03:25.000 What's going on here, Rich?
00:03:26.000 It's not a red wave equation.
00:03:29.000 No, you know, Democrats have typically done better with fundraising, but they've mastered the use of dark money, Charlie, something that they couldn't stand.
00:03:37.000 Remember, Citizens United?
00:03:39.000 I mean, we're both old enough to remember that.
00:03:41.000 They hated it.
00:03:42.000 Barack Obama used it in his State of the Union to basically trash Justice Alito.
00:03:46.000 And in the end, they embraced it better than anybody.
00:03:51.000 So there's also the part of the equation here, which is that Donald Trump is like a vacuum sucking money away from typical entities like the National Republicans.
00:04:02.000 Trump has $100 million, right?
00:04:04.000 You sitting there?
00:04:05.000 Is that right?
00:04:06.000 It's an enormous amount of money.
00:04:09.000 But that's hurting leadership funds.
00:04:13.000 Now, I'm not saying, you know, I'm not telling people where to put their money one way or the other.
00:04:19.000 But when it comes to campaigns, you can only raise so much.
00:04:22.000 So you always have to rely on leadership committees or outside groups.
00:04:26.000 And right now, Democrats, they're getting along with whomever they nominate.
00:04:30.000 And they're using their normal committees that can raise a lot more money than individual campaigns.
00:04:36.000 We're not seeing that here.
00:04:38.000 We're seeing Republican voters hold and donors hold their money from the leadership packs.
00:04:44.000 And there's only so much campaigns can raise.
00:04:47.000 Yeah, but we're getting into crunch time here, Rich.
00:04:47.000 They're limited.
00:04:49.000 I'll be honest.
00:04:50.000 I'm a big Blake Masters fan, as you well know.
00:04:53.000 I live here in Arizona.
00:04:54.000 He's getting killed on the air, though. 0.96
00:04:55.000 Getting killed.
00:04:56.000 No, I mean, there's no fight.
00:04:58.000 I mean, there's not even a response.
00:05:00.000 I mean, I kid you not.
00:05:02.000 We're on Real America's Voice television every day, two hours.
00:05:05.000 So I go back home and kind of decompress later in the evening.
00:05:08.000 I just turn it on to watch Jack Pesobic.
00:05:10.000 This is conservative over-the-top television.
00:05:12.000 So you have to buy the ad in conservative OTT, four Mark Kelly ads in a row on conservative media.
00:05:19.000 I'm scrolling through to find out when the Ducks of Oregon are playing Georgia, and there are five embedded in the ESPN app of anti-Blake Masters ads, not one four.
00:05:29.000 And obviously, you know, we have Blake on the show.
00:05:30.000 We're trying to get him help.
00:05:31.000 He just says, Charlie, I don't have the money.
00:05:32.000 I can't.
00:05:33.000 I mean, I have a couple hundred grand.
00:05:35.000 We're getting destroyed right now.
00:05:37.000 And so how, let me ask you this way, Rich, if it does not improve, what does that mean for November?
00:05:44.000 Because it's bad right now.
00:05:47.000 Well, it will have an impact.
00:05:48.000 You know, there's no doubt it will have an impact.
00:05:51.000 I just want to say, though, too, that it really does depend on whether or not this ends up being a wave or not, Charlie, because I just used this on the show earlier.
00:06:00.000 Look at Sweeney in New Jersey, for instance.
00:06:03.000 He got clobbered by a guy who spent $50 or $90 on Dunkin' Donuts in southern Jersey.
00:06:09.000 And the Democratic leader in the Senate went down.
00:06:13.000 Because, you know, everyone's changing their tune now because they want to make it look better for Democrats.
00:06:17.000 But all these so-called models, they're using fundraising as an excuse.
00:06:22.000 They're really just moving those polls because of, I mean, they're moving those ratings because of their bad summer polling, which we see every cycle.
00:06:29.000 But in the end, if it is a wave, it takes those low, those poor fundraisers with them.
00:06:35.000 And I'm not calling Blake a poor fundraiser.
00:06:36.000 I'm just saying.
00:06:37.000 No, no, I mean, he's institutional opposite.
00:06:39.000 He had a very expensive primary.
00:06:40.000 He's also up against the best funded Senate candidate ever.
00:06:43.000 Mark Kelly's the best.
00:06:43.000 Period.
00:06:45.000 Funded Senate candidate ever.
00:06:46.000 So, Rich, let's go kind of around the horn here.
00:06:48.000 I'm just going to start with one state.
00:06:49.000 We're hosting an event with Ron DeSantis coming up in this state, Pennsylvania.
00:06:53.000 I mean, I looked at some polling.
00:06:55.000 I mean, I couldn't believe it.
00:06:56.000 I thought the numbers were inverted.
00:06:58.000 It says that Oz is down 18 points and Montreal is down 13.
00:07:03.000 Is this true?
00:07:04.000 What's going on here?
00:07:05.000 No, this is crazy. 0.53
00:07:07.000 This is, we're going to get into the crazy, silly season with the Biden plus 17 season again.
00:07:12.000 And by the way, they kept that up all the way till the week before the election, some of these pollsters.
00:07:16.000 That's crazy.
00:07:18.000 They should be arrested for fraud for doing this stuff.
00:07:20.000 It is fraud.
00:07:22.000 It's so dishonest.
00:07:23.000 Go ahead.
00:07:23.000 Sorry.
00:07:24.000 Yeah, no, I'm just saying.
00:07:25.000 It's either there are some people who just stink, but something like that is gross fraud.
00:07:31.000 Where's the rest of the, you know, because somebody had showed me that poll yesterday and my response was, where's the rest of it? 0.98
00:07:37.000 You cannot put out a poll that is that ridiculous or distorted from reality.
00:07:41.000 By the way, so everybody knows, there was a good old, not even left-wing forecasters believe this stuff. 0.79
00:07:48.000 There was a good old powwow with the decision desk guys yesterday, and they were just laughing at some of these.
00:07:53.000 I mean, everybody knows there's a Republican response bias in the summer, but something that bad, Charlie, when was the last time you saw a competitive Senate race or a competitive governor's race in the state of Pennsylvania end up like that?
00:08:07.000 Even in good Democratic years, which nobody expects this one to be.
00:08:12.000 They're not, the polls aren't getting any better.
00:08:14.000 I think there's suppression polls, don't you?
00:08:16.000 I think they're suppression polls to keep Oz's fundraising down, to keep Mastriano's fundraising down, to just have people say, oh, well, I guess we're going to lose it.
00:08:24.000 I mean, I got an email today and for Ohio, someone emailed us, oh, Charlie, looks like JD's going to lose.
00:08:29.000 I just stop it.
00:08:30.000 This is, can you talk about this?
00:08:32.000 Just more broadly here, Rich.
00:08:34.000 Can you talk about how silly it is to use July and August polls to determine a November outcome?
00:08:43.000 Yeah, especially with their records.
00:08:45.000 So when public and media university polling, summer polling has not at all been predictive.
00:08:50.000 And I have to say, you know, when it comes to this stuff with JD Vance in Ohio, I was talking with Bloomberg the other day when I was in Dallas, and the reporter was from Bloomberg, I'm from Ohio, Charlie.
00:09:02.000 And he was asking me about polling in that race and in Pennsylvania.
00:09:06.000 And he's like, look, you know, I'm from Bahoney.
00:09:08.000 I'm from where Tim Bryan is.
00:09:10.000 There is no chance he can win the state of Ohio.
00:09:13.000 I'm wrong here.
00:09:14.000 And I went back and looked and I told him about this.
00:09:17.000 In 2020, we looked back and we took Ohio off the table in September.
00:09:23.000 There were still polls showing Biden winning.
00:09:26.000 There was a Biden plus five poll a week before.
00:09:29.000 That's right.
00:09:30.000 That's New York Times.
00:09:32.000 New York Times.
00:09:33.000 And Quinnipiak Biden plus five.
00:09:34.000 And then one day later, they moved it down to Biden plus four.
00:09:38.000 Fox News right now is about Biden plus five in the state of Ohio.
00:09:42.000 We took it off the table in September because, and I tweeted the link to this poll the other day.
00:09:47.000 Our poll was Trump plus nine.
00:09:50.000 It was 49.40.
00:09:52.000 And some of this is just that they don't.
00:09:54.000 And Trump won by eight.
00:09:55.000 Just so everyone knows, he won Ohio by eight.
00:09:58.000 That's right.
00:09:58.000 Eight almost on the dot.
00:10:00.000 So he never, it was never closer than six points in favor of President Trump when we polled that state.
00:10:08.000 So Pennsylvania was always within two points either way.
00:10:11.000 I mean, two to three points.
00:10:13.000 You know, so our polling is very different than everybody else's.
00:10:16.000 So, you know, when people show me.
00:10:18.000 Yeah, go ahead.
00:10:19.000 Yeah, go ahead.
00:10:20.000 I was just saying, when people show me these ridiculous polls in Arizona, when I just polled that state, Masters was down by three points.
00:10:28.000 That's it. 0.72
00:10:29.000 And all the undecided hate Joe Biden.
00:10:32.000 So, you know, I mean, I think he's doing pretty good for getting, you know, like you said, for going against not only the guy who's the most well-funded Senate candidate ever, but we had to deal with this in Florida with Bill Nelson a little bit.
00:10:44.000 This fake moderate NASA astronaut perspective.
00:10:48.000 Yeah.
00:10:48.000 And then also you coupled with that, you have Mark Kelly.
00:10:51.000 This, let's, I'm just going to be real, this sympathy vote.
00:10:54.000 I mean, the man ran off of what happened to his wife.
00:10:57.000 It's a real thing.
00:10:57.000 Of course, yeah.
00:10:58.000 Yeah.
00:10:58.000 I mean, we don't like what happened to his wife, but he plays it politically all the time.
00:11:01.000 He plays it.
00:11:02.000 Yeah.
00:11:02.000 Obviously.
00:11:03.000 So let me ask you, Rich.
00:11:05.000 So there, there, do you see, do you agree that there is a generic tightening?
00:11:05.000 Yeah.
00:11:09.000 Do you think that there is a question that this is a red wave?
00:11:12.000 Because when you and I were talking in May, it seemed as if it was a foregone conclusion.
00:11:15.000 Would you agree with that?
00:11:17.000 I think that, I mean, the House is gone.
00:11:19.000 I mean, this idea that Democrats are, you know, I think that, yeah, the House is gone.
00:11:25.000 It was always a question of whether or not the Senate would go.
00:11:27.000 But I mean, again, Charlie, that's how these things go.
00:11:30.000 It's very rare when one splits.
00:11:33.000 Trump was able to do it in 18, but he did that because he, he did it.
00:11:38.000 He ran all over the country and he saved seats from that's right, man.
00:11:44.000 That's right.
00:11:45.000 And he made sure incumbents stayed and the new challengers in states that were pro-Trump were ousted, like Joe Donnelly and Claire McCaskill down the line.
00:11:56.000 That's right.
00:11:56.000 They don't have a Trump, man.
00:11:58.000 They don't have a Trump.
00:11:59.000 So I don't know where they're going to pull this from.
00:12:01.000 All they have is Joe Biden.
00:12:03.000 They have money on the media.
00:12:03.000 Well, they have money.
00:12:04.000 They have money, media, and they have some election infrastructure that they can capitalize on.
00:12:09.000 So I'm very pro-life and I'm unapologetic about it.
00:12:12.000 But I'm going to be honest, I'm a little bit worried that if it's all about the abortion issue, okay, going into November, that it could hurt some of our candidates.
00:12:25.000 Am I wrong in that regard, Rich?
00:12:27.000 Because they're running ads like crazy here in Arizona.
00:12:30.000 And I have Republicans coming up to me saying, Charlie, look, I'm pro-life, not as pro-life as you, but my wife no longer likes Blake Masters and, you know, all these people.
00:12:39.000 And am I playing too much into their own game here, Rich?
00:12:43.000 Yeah, I think at the end of the day, if it's still about abortion by the time the election comes along, then Republicans deserve to lose this election.
00:12:51.000 There has never been so much ammunition.
00:12:53.000 The media can talk about it all they want.
00:12:55.000 But the fact is, Republicans should just stay on message and have a coherent answer.
00:13:00.000 And we talked about this with somebody like Walker did not give a great answer.
00:13:04.000 There could be some races around the country.
00:13:06.000 Gibbs, he's going to have to be a little bit careful in a district like that.
00:13:10.000 But as long as you don't come across sounding like Todd Aiken, it really should not harm you.
00:13:16.000 They're going to try to force that hand, though, right?
00:13:17.000 I mean, that's.
00:13:18.000 They are.
00:13:19.000 And people are going to have to be ready for that.
00:13:21.000 Yes, absolutely.
00:13:22.000 But I don't think it's a top issue in a lot of voters' minds.
00:13:26.000 But again, I know I sound like I'm repeating myself here, but it's important.
00:13:30.000 I'm living in the swing state of swing states and I watch a fair amount of stuff as I get my work done.
00:13:35.000 It is nonstop abortion advertisement.
00:13:37.000 That's all they're talking about.
00:13:39.000 It is nonstop one issue.
00:13:40.000 That is it.
00:13:41.000 As if the border's not open, there's no one for you.
00:13:42.000 North Carolina, too.
00:13:43.000 Is that right?
00:13:44.000 North Carolina, too.
00:13:45.000 Absolutely.
00:13:46.000 Constantly, they're going to take away this.
00:13:48.000 I mean, you elect Ted Budd, and, you know, he's going to, he's going to put a constitutional amendment forever banning abortion.
00:13:53.000 I mean, the talk is over the top.
00:13:55.000 I'm a little bit concerned about it.
00:13:56.000 I am not.
00:13:56.000 I mean, again, I'm super pro-life, so I'm sympathetic to the, but I want to win, right?
00:14:01.000 I don't want to lose winnable races.
00:14:03.000 That could actually hurt the cause for life.
00:14:04.000 So let me ask you, Rich, again, so can you just help me navigate this?
00:14:08.000 I'm a little worried that if Republicans are not able to message on the abortion issue or if it becomes the primary issue, we lose, which actually is bad for the cause for life.
00:14:16.000 And trust me, I'm not one to back away from a fight.
00:14:18.000 Everyone knows that, but I want to win.
00:14:20.000 I don't think it's wise to go in a direction or talk in a way that you're not necessarily literate.
00:14:26.000 Can you help me navigate this, Rich?
00:14:28.000 Yeah, you know, and we've done some number crunching on this, though, Charlie, like primary turnout before and after Row.
00:14:35.000 There did, you know, you had obviously the referendum and you had Minnesota that day as well.
00:14:41.000 You know, that was in the debate over turnout as well.
00:14:44.000 But in truth, you know, since we've had Arizona, we've had Wisconsin, Democrats are getting thrashed on turnout.
00:14:50.000 Alaska, which is weird, and I know how it goes.
00:14:53.000 People are wondering what's going to happen there.
00:14:55.000 It's still the turnout.
00:14:57.000 I haven't seen this kind of disproportionate turnout since 2010.
00:15:00.000 And Democrats have voted pretty decently in Alaska primaries in the last few cycles, but they're just getting crushed.
00:15:07.000 In Wisconsin, turnout was gangbuster for Republicans.
00:15:10.000 Wyoming yesterday was historic.
00:15:12.000 Arizona, record-breaking.
00:15:15.000 You know, so all throughout this primary season, Republicans have been really romping Democrats.
00:15:22.000 And Democrats, obviously, they'd want it to be about abortion too, so they could try to peel off some of those moderate Republicans.
00:15:28.000 But, you know, talk about historic.
00:15:31.000 It would be historic if a first-term, incumbent midterm party with an unpopular president was allowed to use a single wedge issue to basically dominate the narrative across the board nationally.
00:15:42.000 We did see people blow races on abortion before Todd Aiken.
00:15:46.000 And Murder.
00:15:46.000 Remember him?
00:15:47.000 Luger.
00:15:48.000 And yep, right.
00:15:48.000 Murder.
00:15:49.000 I was not Luger.
00:15:50.000 He'd be Luger in the primary who was the mayor of Indianapolis.
00:15:53.000 That's right.
00:15:53.000 Yeah.
00:15:54.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:15:55.000 And he kind of got, he wasn't even as bad as what Aiken said, but he got swept along with it.
00:15:59.000 That's right.
00:16:01.000 That's right.
00:16:01.000 It was a whole narrative.
00:16:03.000 But things have changed since then.
00:16:05.000 And, you know, again, Obama wasn't that unpopular at this time.
00:16:10.000 He really was not.
00:16:11.000 The turnout edge is going to make a big difference here.
00:16:14.000 And I think that people yesterday were debating, well, it looks like it could be an even electorate.
00:16:18.000 To me, it doesn't look like it's going to be an even electorate.
00:16:22.000 I could ask you predictions and stuff too far away.
00:16:24.000 It's not worth, that's not a great use of time.
00:16:26.000 What is the biggest concern you have for Republicans going into November?
00:16:32.000 You know, leadership.
00:16:34.000 The biggest concern I have with Republicans right now is leadership. 0.81
00:16:37.000 Their messaging stinks.
00:16:39.000 They are not, again, like I said to you, I really don't believe that they want to win a wave.
00:16:44.000 They want a manageable majority.
00:16:47.000 And at this point, I mean, I'm personally involved with a lot of these races, Charlie.
00:16:51.000 And I'm telling you, from my perspective, it looks like they want these America firsters to win.
00:16:56.000 I totally agree.
00:16:57.000 I think that's what.
00:16:58.000 I've been doing this a long time, buddy.
00:17:00.000 I'm telling you, once your guy wins, it's a bitter fight.
00:17:03.000 Whatever.
00:17:04.000 You all come together or you lose, whatever.
00:17:06.000 You come together.
00:17:07.000 They're not doing this.
00:17:08.000 They're intentionally trying to sabotage races.
00:17:11.000 100%.
00:17:12.000 JD Vance.
00:17:13.000 They're leaving them all out to dry.
00:17:15.000 They are leaving them exactly.
00:17:16.000 Perfect candidates, perfect examples, leaving them hanging out to dry.
00:17:20.000 Mitch McConnell leaks to Politico about them instead of tries to say Blake has a path to victory.
00:17:28.000 He just has to win Maricopa by one vote.
00:17:30.000 That's it.
00:17:31.000 You got to divide Maricopa into six different buckets and focus on the ones you can win on and lose less than the ones you're going to lose downtown.
00:17:37.000 That's great advice.
00:17:38.000 Well, that's great advice.
00:17:40.000 We live here, so hopefully they'll listen to us.
00:17:42.000 But no guarantees.
00:17:44.000 So, Rich, we're out of time.
00:17:45.000 Big data polls, right?
00:17:46.000 People's Pundit.
00:17:47.000 How many people follow you?
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00:17:50.000 Yep.
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00:17:55.000 Either one works for us.
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00:18:05.000 On Truth and Getter, just at People's Pundit.
00:18:07.000 So, Rich, I'm going to have to try to convince you to come on our live stream in November.
00:18:10.000 We're already starting to choose it.
00:18:12.000 I mean, you know the numbers.
00:18:14.000 I hear it.
00:18:14.000 All right.
00:18:15.000 They're pretty epic.
00:18:16.000 So if we can merge forces, it's going to be a night to remember.
00:18:19.000 And we're going to be up to like 3 a.m. for the first vote to be counted in Arizona anyway.
00:18:22.000 So it takes about 15 hours.
00:18:26.000 I'm hoping to have some serious features in November, Charlie.
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00:19:34.000 Politico.com.
00:19:36.000 GOP slashes ads in key Senate battlegrounds.
00:19:40.000 The NRSC has canceled over $10 million in ad buys as candidates struggle with fundraising.
00:19:48.000 As midterm election campaigns heat up in the Senate top battlegrounds, the National Republican Senatorial Committee is canceling millions of dollars of ad spending.
00:19:58.000 The cuts, totaling $13.5 million since August 1st, come as the Republican Senate campaign committee is being forced to stretch every dollar we can.
00:20:08.000 Republican nominees in critical states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, places the Republicans must defend this fall, have failed to raise enough money to get themselves on air, requiring the NRSC to make cuts elsewhere to accommodate.
00:20:22.000 Since August 1, the NRSC has cut ad buys in battleground states of Pennsylvania, $7.5 million, Arizona, $3.5 million, Wisconsin, $2.5 million, and Nevada, $1.5 million.
00:20:33.000 One Republican strategist says, what the hell is going on?
00:20:36.000 Why are we cutting in August?
00:20:38.000 I've never seen it like this before.
00:20:40.000 And I have an answer to that because I believe we're the only show that has been telling people what is going on.
00:20:46.000 Let's put this back up on screen, please.
00:20:50.000 This is number 10.
00:20:51.000 Shows exactly what is going on.
00:20:54.000 When you call your voters traitors and you treat them so terribly with small dollar fundraising repeatedly, then don't be surprised when all of a sudden people don't want to give you money anymore.
00:21:11.000 So look, the Democrats have no money disadvantage at all.
00:21:16.000 I'm going to continue in the politico article.
00:21:19.000 And for those of you that are listening on radio, just so you understand, this text message that I'm referencing is just one of many sent out by what I believe sabotaging Republican consultants who send out these messages so forcefully, so repeatedly, so aggressively that it almost looks as if they're sabotaging the Republican Party.
00:21:44.000 This is one sent out to Republican voters. 0.98
00:21:47.000 Quote, you are a traitor. 1.00
00:21:50.000 You abandoned Trump. 0.99
00:21:51.000 By the way, this is not even during an election cycle.
00:21:53.000 This is months ago.
00:21:55.000 We were told you were a tried and true lifelong patriot.
00:21:59.000 But when Trump said he'd run for president, if we took back the House from Nancy Pelosi, you did nothing.
00:22:05.000 Was Trump wrong about you?
00:22:07.000 This is your final chance to prove your loyalty or be branded a deserter.
00:22:12.000 We're giving you one final chance to stand with Trump.
00:22:15.000 You only have 17 minutes.
00:22:18.000 Calling you a traitor if you don't give money a year up from an election he's not even running in.
00:22:24.000 What's happening?
00:22:25.000 Politico.com.
00:22:26.000 I'm going to read this again.
00:22:27.000 People are asking, what the hell is going on? said one Republican strategist.
00:22:32.000 Why are we cutting in August?
00:22:33.000 I've never seen anything like this before.
00:22:35.000 People are fed up with all these emails and text messages.
00:22:38.000 I have tried so hard to warn these consultants.
00:22:41.000 Text message after text message.
00:22:43.000 People are losing it.
00:22:44.000 They don't want this anymore.
00:22:45.000 We did a whole show on this weeks ago and we received very warm response from you at freedom at charliekirk.com, warm meaning you agreed with me.
00:22:53.000 And they don't care.
00:22:54.000 Now, the other part is this, though, and this is important, is that the easy money supply has also been cut off.
00:23:02.000 Corporations are no longer enthusiastic about giving money to Republicans.
00:23:07.000 Good.
00:23:08.000 We like that.
00:23:09.000 For example, an easy couple hundred grand you might be able to raise used to be able to go work the phones and call Pfizer, call AstraZeneca, call Moderna, call their lobbyists, call the people representing them.
00:23:21.000 That's a $250,000 afternoon.
00:23:24.000 One fundraiser, hear about their nonsense, promise you'll never look into vaccine adverse events, talk about how everyone needs vaccines, about how it's this wonderful medical technology.
00:23:34.000 Next thing you know, your campaign coffers are full and you can go up with ads in the state of Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Arizona.
00:23:39.000 Republicans aren't really willing to do that.
00:23:41.000 And corporations, they no longer want to do that.
00:23:43.000 They give that money to Schumer.
00:23:44.000 They give that money to the left.
00:23:46.000 Now, some Republicans do that, but not all.
00:23:49.000 You see, it stopped really after January 6th, too.
00:23:54.000 A lot of these major corporations no longer want to give to Republicans.
00:24:01.000 And part of that, by the way, is freedom for our side.
00:24:03.000 They could talk about what they want to do when they want to do it.
00:24:05.000 But the larger point is they're wondering, where's all these grassroots donations?
00:24:09.000 You have treated your audience so poorly.
00:24:13.000 You have abused your audience so terribly by emailing them relentlessly, calling them traitors, sending them text messages.
00:24:22.000 Don't be surprised now when it's gone off a cliff.
00:24:24.000 Democrats are raising more money than ever before.
00:24:27.000 And here's the thing.
00:24:28.000 Money does not win elections.
00:24:30.000 It doesn't.
00:24:30.000 But if we're not even able to get up on TV at all, I can tell you in Arizona right now, Blake Masters, everywhere I go, it's anti-Blake Masters.
00:24:38.000 Everywhere.
00:24:40.000 If we don't even get a little bit of money, we are going to not, we're going to lose in November.
00:24:47.000 We spend a fair amount of time talking about Republicans that don't need your support.
00:24:50.000 One that does need your help and support.
00:24:52.000 He is running for Senate in the great state of Ohio.
00:24:56.000 And he's in a tough race.
00:24:57.000 Tim Ryan is a real deceitful fella.
00:24:59.000 I'll tell you what.
00:25:00.000 But JD Vance is running a great race, and we're going to get him across the finish line in November.
00:25:05.000 And he will be a phenomenal senator.
00:25:08.000 JD joins us right now.
00:25:09.000 JD, welcome back to the program.
00:25:11.000 Hey, Charlie.
00:25:12.000 Thanks for having me, man.
00:25:13.000 How's your race going?
00:25:14.000 Give us the update.
00:25:16.000 Yeah, it's going good.
00:25:17.000 You know, the good thing is the people in Ohio are just frustrated with Biden and Tim Ryan.
00:25:21.000 They're frustrated with the fact that these guys have made energy way more expensive than it needs to be.
00:25:26.000 They're frustrated with the fact that they're so radical on every issue to where if you think that we should have a secure southern border in this country, then Tim Ryan and Joe Biden basically think that you're a racist.
00:25:36.000 And I always tell people, look, we've got a ton of fentanyl pouring into our state that's killing a lot of our people.
00:25:42.000 I don't care what they call us.
00:25:43.000 We've got to defend that southern border and actually shut it down.
00:25:46.000 But the one thing that he does have going for him is just a ton of money.
00:25:50.000 And so I always tell people, if you want to help us out, go to jdvance.com because the National Democrats, Charlie, have built this incredible national fundraising platform.
00:26:00.000 It's actually, in some ways, impressive.
00:26:02.000 Of course, part of what's going on is that they have the advantage of the big technology companies.
00:26:06.000 And so if you look at the censorship of a Republican fundraising email, the rate at which it's put into people's spam filters, into people's junk box folders, and you compare that to Democratic fundraising emails, I mean, it's crazy.
00:26:19.000 It's like 80% of Republican emails are getting filtered.
00:26:22.000 Maybe 5% of Democrat fundraising emails are getting filtered.
00:26:25.000 So we're really in a fundraising war where the Democrats have aligned with the big tech industry.
00:26:31.000 And because of it, we need all the help that we can get.
00:26:33.000 If we get it, though, if we're able to tell our story, Charlie, I'm not worried about our race at all.
00:26:38.000 And I think we are going to have a red wave because people are fed up.
00:26:41.000 Yeah.
00:26:41.000 So can you build that out a little bit more?
00:26:43.000 Because this is a very curious thing to our audience, which is talk about Act Blue just a little bit.
00:26:49.000 And we just did a whole segment before this, JD, on how Democrats have more money than they know what to do with, how it's coming in from out of state, and how some Republican groups are cutting back actually advertising that they would have otherwise thought that they would get.
00:27:03.000 Can you just help explain that?
00:27:04.000 Because our audience is not used to that.
00:27:06.000 Usually Republicans are the ones that have more corporate money and all that, but that's no longer the case, it seems.
00:27:12.000 No, it's really changed in part because a lot of the corporations, of course, have been bullied and cowed into completely avoiding politics, even when their interests align with Republican Party values.
00:27:21.000 I mean, these people have gone so woke.
00:27:23.000 They're being harassed by their employees.
00:27:25.000 So they've completely gone to the left side of the political spectrum.
00:27:29.000 And at the same time, like if you look at my Democrat opponent, Tim Ryan, right, this guy pretends to be a moderate, of course, he votes with Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden 100% of the time.
00:27:38.000 But all of his money is coming from out of state.
00:27:40.000 The guy has no support organically within the state of Ohio.
00:27:44.000 It's all coming from New York, from California, from Illinois, from Massachusetts.
00:27:48.000 Now, so take just an example, one of the biggest companies that's supporting him, of course, it's Google, arguably the most powerful technology company in the entire world.
00:27:57.000 It's not just that Google's leadership is supporting Tim Ryan.
00:28:00.000 It's not just that the Silicon Valley leadership is.
00:28:02.000 It's the infrastructure, too.
00:28:04.000 It's the infrastructure and it's the employees.
00:28:07.000 Okay.
00:28:07.000 So think these employees, they're maybe not super wealthy, but they're certainly doing a lot better off than the average American.
00:28:13.000 And if every single one of those employees writes $100 check to 20 different Democrats, and that's what they do through this ActBlue digital fundraising platform, Charlie, and it's a huge advantage for the left.
00:28:24.000 Yeah.
00:28:24.000 And so, I mean, there is a Republican equivalent called Win Red, but it hasn't gotten even close to what the left has been able to do.
00:28:32.000 And if so, you go to actblue.com, they've raised over $10.6 billion for Democrat causes.
00:28:39.000 And I mean, the same way that a, you know, someone from Ohio would, Middleton, Ohio would tie to their church, a liberal in Tacoma, Washington ties their candidates.
00:28:51.000 They look at it with religious fervor and zeal.
00:28:54.000 So let's talk about this Inflation Reduction Act.
00:28:58.000 How did Tim Ryan vote?
00:29:01.000 Of course, he voted for it, Charlie, after parading around the state in his TV commercials saying that he wanted a middle-class tax cut for the people of Ohio, which, of course, is a good idea and a ridiculous coming from Tim Ryan because he's never voted for a tax cut in his life.
00:29:16.000 And of course, he voted for a middle-class tax increase, which is one of the things the Inflation Reduction Act does.
00:29:22.000 The other thing it does, of course, it does many things.
00:29:24.000 One of the other things it does is hire 87,000 IRS agents that will be used against small and medium-sized businesses all across the state of Ohio.
00:29:33.000 And still, the final thing that it does is it puts a ton of money into the green energy boondoggles, even though we know that most of the green energy stuff comes from the Chinese Communist Party.
00:29:46.000 So in the name of supporting America's working class, the Democrats, including Tim Ryan, have dumped a ton of money into the Chinese Communist Party and a bunch of IRS agents to harass middle-class Americans.
00:29:58.000 Doesn't make any sense.
00:29:59.000 It's going to be really bad.
00:30:01.000 It's one of these things that when we get power in Washington in 2022, we really need to change this stuff and try to defund a lot of what's in the Inflation Reduction Act.
00:30:10.000 But it does nothing to reduce inflation.
00:30:12.000 It's the Inflation Corruption Act, and it's going to cause a lot of problems in addition to the extra inflation.
00:30:17.000 Yeah.
00:30:17.000 So a question we're getting from a lot of people is: how do we roll back these 87,000 new IRS agents?
00:30:24.000 I gave this advice to Blake Masters right on the air, and you and Blake have something in common, first of which I'm enthusiastically behind you guys.
00:30:31.000 The second of which is you're both running against candidates who didn't just voice support for, they casted votes for 87,000 new IRS agents.
00:30:40.000 And so just talk about what your plan would be to hopefully not a little bit of oversight, but have some removal of these agents or something.
00:30:49.000 I mean, can we reallocate IRS agents to the border?
00:30:53.000 Your thoughts, JD?
00:30:56.000 Well, I wish that we could.
00:30:57.000 And in fact, we can actually if we went back to the Senate in 2022, Charlie.
00:31:01.000 So if you think about it, most of these agents are going to be hired after the new Congress is sworn in.
00:31:06.000 It's going to take 10 years to hire all of these people.
00:31:09.000 And that's that they're lucky.
00:31:10.000 Of course, a lot of American businesses can't find workers right now.
00:31:13.000 And that's a big problem here is they're competing.
00:31:15.000 The government is competing with American workers in the middle of a worker shortage.
00:31:20.000 And I think that what we just have to do is say we're cutting off the money spigot.
00:31:25.000 We cannot hire 87,000 people.
00:31:28.000 If they hire 7,000 additional IRS agents, okay, whatever, maybe not perfect, but it's the 80,000 on top of that that we really have to stop.
00:31:36.000 I want to just emphasize a visual here.
00:31:38.000 Connor, you can get a picture here.
00:31:39.000 That is more seats than at Paul Brown Stadium.
00:31:42.000 I want everyone to understand that.
00:31:44.000 And you're wearing a Bengals shirt, if I'm not mistaken.
00:31:46.000 That's right.
00:31:47.000 And I'm a big Joe Burrow fan, not really a Bengals fan, but that's a separate issue.
00:31:53.000 I'm a Joe Burrow fan.
00:31:54.000 And there, I think I just looked it up.
00:31:56.000 There are 65,000 seats at Paul Brown Stadium.
00:32:01.000 65,000 seats.
00:32:02.000 And who's going to go take these jobs at the IRS?
00:32:05.000 It's not going to be, you know, moderate, prudent, kind of tempered people from central Ohio.
00:32:12.000 It's going to be ideologues, right?
00:32:14.000 Let's get that up on screen here.
00:32:16.000 Talk about how everyday normal people are going to be the targets of the IRS.
00:32:22.000 It's not going to be the ruling class.
00:32:24.000 It's not the protected class.
00:32:26.000 They have accountants and lawyers and all this.
00:32:28.000 Talk about how this is a targeting campaign against the muscular class, of which Ohio has a fair amount of people in that community.
00:32:38.000 Yeah, well, that's exactly right.
00:32:41.000 So one, just look at the statistics of the current audit rates, Charlie.
00:32:45.000 So, you know, we have 800 billionaires in this country.
00:32:48.000 The left says that these agents are going to go after the billionaires.
00:32:51.000 But even with the IRS agents that we have right now, you're much more likely to be audited if you're a middle-class guy, if you're a working-class guy.
00:32:58.000 Disproportionate share of the targets are these guys.
00:33:01.000 Now, very often, of course, the IRS finds that you didn't do anything wrong.
00:33:05.000 But as you know, Charlie, the problem is not that these IRS agents are going to find a wrongdoing.
00:33:11.000 The problem is that they're going to harass people and make them go through expensive processes in order to clear their name.
00:33:17.000 And let's say, you know, you don't owe any additional tax to the IRS.
00:33:20.000 You're a middle-class guy.
00:33:21.000 You make $80,000 a year.
00:33:23.000 You don't owe anything extra to the IRS, but you do have to pay a lawyer a couple thousand dollars to make sure that you don't get anything against you.
00:33:31.000 That's the problem, Charlie.
00:33:33.000 It's the harassment.
00:33:34.000 It's the legal expense of a bunch of people who are doing the right thing and shouldn't be expected to justify themselves to the IRS.
00:33:41.000 An average audit costs $20,000 to defend yourself.
00:33:46.000 So we got an email the other day, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:33:49.000 Come on, Charlie, just pay your taxes.
00:33:50.000 Who cares?
00:33:51.000 That, I mean, nice guy, I'm sure, that sent that email. 0.99
00:33:53.000 That is such a foolish thing to say.
00:33:55.000 That is someone who has never had to battle these regulatory agencies.
00:33:59.000 So, JD, I want to broaden this a little bit.
00:34:01.000 The last week, we have seen kind of this incredible aggression and advance from the fourth branch of government, FBI, IRS, at every level.
00:34:13.000 This is something where the Senate has a lot of power. 0.92
00:34:16.000 And if we take back the Senate, what is your mandate going to be to be an effective check and balance against this out-of-control fourth branch of government?
00:34:26.000 Well, you know, one of the things, of course, is just defunding the agencies like these additional 87,000 IRS agents that are going to go and harass normal Americans, Charlie.
00:34:35.000 But part of it is just oversight.
00:34:36.000 You know, I've criticized the FBI raid on Trump's own because I simply think that if you're going to do that to a former president, a likely future presidential candidate, you got to have an extraordinary justification to do it.
00:34:47.000 And the one pushback I've gotten that I think is fair is: well, look, you have to let the process play out.
00:34:51.000 And my argument is one of the ways in which the process plays out is for the Senate to provide oversight of the Department of Justice leadership.
00:35:00.000 Because if we've learned anything about our government in the last couple of years, it's that Merrick Garland, the guy who harasses parents for protesting at school board meetings, is a corrupt political actor and he needs to be investigated.
00:35:11.000 So, yes, we need to let the process work out.
00:35:13.000 And part of that is ensuring the Senate exercises proper oversight.
00:35:17.000 We cannot just let this go.
00:35:18.000 I don't think our voters are going to stand for it, but even if they would, the right thing to do is to ensure that these hyper-political actors face some investigation and potentially some prosecution if they've broken the law when they do these things that threaten the basic public trust that Americans have in their government.
00:35:37.000 That's exactly right.
00:35:38.000 I want to play a piece of tape here just to show on television.
00:35:40.000 I played this earlier.
00:35:41.000 It's very creepy.
00:35:43.000 This is a training video.
00:35:45.000 Did you see this, JD, on the internet yet?
00:35:47.000 Have you seen this?
00:35:48.000 Of potential IRS agents entering a room with firearms, training them on how to arrest people for conspiracy.
00:35:57.000 This should really worry people.
00:35:58.000 Play Cut 66.
00:36:09.000 Put your hands up.
00:36:12.000 Got an arrest of you.
00:36:14.000 Where does that drive call me?
00:36:15.000 I got a couple of hands up.
00:36:17.000 It's not moving.
00:36:20.000 I have a gun.
00:36:20.000 Yeah, I have a permit.
00:36:21.000 It's legal behind your back.
00:36:22.000 Can we take your weapons, please? 0.97
00:36:24.000 Well, you're going to hit it.
00:36:30.000 Do you have any other weapons on you?
00:36:32.000 You're under arrest for conspiracy.
00:36:36.000 Really quick, JD, 20, 30 seconds, your thoughts.
00:36:40.000 Which is pretty freaky.
00:36:41.000 Why do the IRS, why do these agents would they ever need to bring a gun to investigate people for tax evasion?
00:36:47.000 It just doesn't make any sense.
00:36:48.000 And again, we're living in a country.
00:36:50.000 I think President Trump said recently we need to bring the temperature down a little bit.
00:36:54.000 Sending the DOJ after, excuse me, the DOJ leadership going after the former president and posting videos of the internet of armed IRS agents, that's raising the temperature in the country.
00:37:06.000 These people actually care about our democracy.
00:37:08.000 If they actually care about peace and stability in this country, they need to chill out a little bit because they're doing things that make everybody a little angrier, a little more frustrated.
00:37:19.000 And if they really care about this country, they say they do, they should be trying to reduce the temperature, not increase it.
00:37:25.000 Stay right there, JD.
00:37:26.000 If you guys want to support JD directly, we're getting some emails about that.
00:37:29.000 Charlie, where do I support?
00:37:30.000 Go to candidates' websites directly.
00:37:32.000 It's jdvance.com.
00:37:34.000 Don't go to all these other weird things.
00:37:36.000 First, go unless you've maxed out, go to jdvance.com.
00:37:40.000 I want to tell you guys about an event we're doing with JD and Governor DeSantis on August 19th, two days from now on Friday.
00:37:47.000 I want to tell you about it.
00:37:48.000 Doors open at 6 p.m.
00:37:49.000 JD speaks at 7.30 and Ron DeSantis at 7.50 is at the Metroplex Expo Center in Gerard, Ohio.
00:37:57.000 JD, what part of Ohio is that?
00:38:00.000 That's the northeastern part of the state.
00:38:02.000 Not too far, actually, Charlie, from Youngstown, where I understand Ron DeSantis actually has some family, but also one of our great and proud manufacturing capitals, not just of Ohio, but really of the entire country.
00:38:13.000 You know, one of these places where 50 years ago, it was possible to raise a family on a single middle-class skill worker's income.
00:38:20.000 And now the community has just been devastated because some of the decisions that have been made by Tim Ryan, but look, we're being honest, bad decisions that have been made by bipartisan leaders for 30 years.
00:38:30.000 The real problem with Tim Ryan is not that he's a radical departure.
00:38:33.000 It's that he's the same thing that has failed this country and failed this state for the past 20 years.
00:38:38.000 He actually represents Youngstown, and it's one of the areas that has lost the most in terms of prosperity in our state over the last 20 years.
00:38:45.000 Yeah, a good friend of mine who passed away, a big donor of Turning Point, was from Hubbard, Ohio.
00:38:50.000 And I went to there for his funeral and I saw it.
00:38:52.000 Boy, you want to see deindustrialized America drive through Hubbard, Ohio.
00:38:55.000 A lot of dollar stores, not a lot of manufacturing plants anymore.
00:38:58.000 So there's an interesting email here, JD.
00:39:00.000 I want to read it.
00:39:00.000 Hi, Charlie.
00:39:01.000 Love your show.
00:39:01.000 In regards to why our candidates aren't doing as well, I'd like to remind you that middle-class Americans are now paying over $100 a week more in groceries, $450 a gallon for gas.
00:39:11.000 There's no money left to send support.
00:39:13.000 I've donated in the past, and they have what seems our party with money had gotten us into this situation.
00:39:18.000 I'm praying we didn't pull this off, get our country back.
00:39:20.000 It's interesting, JD, this kind of more broadly, as the Republican Party becomes more of a working class party with inflation.
00:39:27.000 That actually might be one of the reasons why it's harder to raise money right now.
00:39:30.000 Your thoughts?
00:39:32.000 It's exactly right.
00:39:34.000 It's one of the things that's happened is that as our people have become more middle class, more working class, and I'm proud of that, right?
00:39:41.000 I want our party to go in that direction because those are the people who built this country with their bare hands.
00:39:46.000 At the same time, they're getting crushed by Tim Ryan and Joe Biden's policies more than anybody else.
00:39:50.000 So it's not surprising they don't have the same, you know, the same income laying around that they can donate to political candidates.
00:39:56.000 That's fine.
00:39:56.000 I'd say give what you can, but whatever you can do, help us out because we're going to win this race and we're going to make it easier for those people to live a good life in this country.
00:40:05.000 And then, secondly, there's another person who's, that's why I love our audience.
00:40:08.000 I learned so much.
00:40:09.000 They said, Charlie, I don't give to candidates anymore because I don't want to get audited.
00:40:12.000 Isn't that something?
00:40:14.000 And that goes to show the sad state of affairs that we're in right now.
00:40:19.000 So let me tell you this, Charlie.
00:40:20.000 Just a quick story on this.
00:40:22.000 We heard this today, and I'll try to anonymize this so nobody gets in trouble.
00:40:27.000 But we had somebody reach out, good friend of mine, great people.
00:40:31.000 They said that a journalist reached out to them and was asking them questions.
00:40:35.000 And at the same time, they were called by anonymous Democratic investigators and basically told, if you talk to this journalist, we're going to make life harder for you.
00:40:44.000 So people are getting harassed out there.
00:40:46.000 This is a reality, Charlie.
00:40:48.000 It's real bad news.
00:40:49.000 Oh, I could go through it again.
00:40:50.000 I don't want to breach any confidentiality because people have really confided in me.
00:40:54.000 I know of at least 20 to 25 active audits and investigations that are completely baseless of hyper-political people right now that have given substantially, that are outspoken, that are vocal, at least 20 to 25.
00:41:07.000 And they come to me and they say, Charlie, do you know about, don't say anything yet because it's ongoing.
00:41:11.000 And isn't kind of also the process, the punishment in some of this, right, JD?
00:41:15.000 They string it on for five or seven or nine years sometimes because for them, they get paid all the same.
00:41:20.000 But if they can rob you of your inner peace or some money, it doesn't matter if there's a crime or not.
00:41:26.000 They'll just throw you through the ringer.
00:41:28.000 Absolutely.
00:41:29.000 One of the most annoying things, just to go back to this 87,000 IRS agent story, is people will say, well, if you pay your taxes, you don't need to worry about being audited.
00:41:38.000 You know, like, aren't those people who say that supposed to be the social justice warriors when you say to somebody who's indicted for a criminal charge?
00:41:46.000 Oh, well, if you're innocent, you don't need to hire an attorney.
00:41:48.000 These things are expensive.
00:41:50.000 Even when you are innocent, even when you've done nothing wrong, it still costs money to go through this process.
00:41:55.000 That's the core of the harassment.
00:41:57.000 Yeah, that's totally true.
00:41:59.000 So the border is wide open, JD.
00:42:01.000 Massive issue in Ohio.
00:42:02.000 Your opponent has done nothing to address it.
00:42:04.000 Really quick, your thoughts on the southern border crisis. 0.96
00:42:08.000 Yeah, I just think it shows how ridiculous his priorities are.
00:42:11.000 So a few years ago, you know, he invited somebody to the State of the Union address. 0.82
00:42:16.000 Was it a legal alien, right? 0.96
00:42:17.000 And I don't know the guy's story, but let's be honest: Tim Ryan's obligation is not to people who broke the laws to get into this country.
00:42:24.000 His obligation is to people who are dying because of the drugs and the crime that we're letting come across the southern border.
00:42:31.000 You owe an obligation to American citizens and American citizens first.
00:42:35.000 So that's the problem with this entire border situation.
00:42:38.000 It's not that there aren't good people.
00:42:39.000 It's not that there aren't reasons for compassion.
00:42:42.000 It's that if you're an elected leader of this country, your obligation ought to be to the people who are dying at record rates.
00:42:47.000 And it's not just Charlie, the opioid problem, it's not just about the people who are affected by it directly.
00:42:53.000 Think of the generation of young kids who have been orphaned by this because their parents can't take care of them.
00:42:58.000 Think of the grandparents living on a fixed income who are now taking care of grandkids they weren't expecting to take care of.
00:43:04.000 This poison coming across the southern border is one of the main problems in our country, and it is despicable that Tim Ryan doesn't care at all about it.
00:43:13.000 JDvance.com, you can go support JD directly.
00:43:17.000 He's in a tough race.
00:43:18.000 It's a very winnable race.
00:43:20.000 JD's general is up against a total fake.
00:43:23.000 If we have a red wave, Ohio has become a redder state, but they can elect Democrat senators too, Sherrod Brown and all that nonsense.
00:43:29.000 Let's not let that happen.
00:43:31.000 JDvance.com.
00:43:32.000 JD, keep it up.
00:43:33.000 And also our event, tpaction.com/slash DeSantis.
00:43:37.000 JD and Governor DeSantis having a great event.
00:43:39.000 Brought to you by Turning Point Action coming up on Friday.
00:43:41.000 JD, see you soon.
00:43:43.000 Thanks, Charlie.
00:43:44.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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00:43:48.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:43:49.000 God bless.
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