In this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie Kirk is joined by Newt Gingrich to discuss his new book, "Trump's Triumph," and to discuss the MAGA movement and its impact on American politics and the country's future.
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00:01:26.000Joining us now is a great friend and one of the clearest thinkers in the conservative movement and author of a very important book, Trump's Triumph.
00:01:36.000Of course, I'm talking about the patriot himself, Speaker Newt Gingrich.
00:01:57.000I'm delighted to be here to talk about Trump's triumph, America's greatest comeback.
00:02:04.000I started writing it in October because I was sure he was going to win.
00:02:08.000And as a historian, I wanted to put a framework for the American people on how he had made this huge comeback and how America had made a huge comeback.
00:02:19.000And it's that combination that makes this an unusual moment.
00:02:25.000That Trump is going to become one of the most important change agents ever to occupy the presidency, certainly in the same league as Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
00:02:38.000And if he succeeds, if he wins in 26 and 28, when his policies continue to move in the right direction, he will, in fact, I think, become probably the biggest change agent since Lincoln.
00:02:54.000It's a remarkable experience and it grows out of the American people.
00:03:03.000They turned around and rejected Harris.
00:03:04.000You know, no candidate in history has beaten an incumbent president and an incumbent vice president in the same year, except Donald Trump.
00:03:13.000So it tells you something very profound was going on.
00:03:17.000So, Mr. Speaker, I want to dive into that.
00:03:20.000I agree that President Trump historically will be viewed the same as the greats in American history, but I want to talk about the movement that he started.
00:03:29.000Have those other presidents that we mentioned, Washington, he's kind of in a league of his own, but Lincoln, FDR, did they have movements that lived longer than their own presidency?
00:03:41.000And did they have movements that had the same sort of peaks and troughs, the ups and the downs, the crescendos and the decrescendos that the MAGA movement has had?
00:03:52.000Can you talk about the durability, the fortitude and the resiliency of this movement, Mr. Speaker?
00:03:58.000Yeah, look, I think this movement goes all the way back to Goldwater.
00:04:02.000In 1964, and I think you can see the original frame of it if you go to YouTube and pull up Ronald Reagan's amazing October 1964 speech, A Time for Choosing.
00:04:14.000I mean, Reagan went right to the core of the American people, the American Constitution, and whether or not a big government socialism could work.
00:04:24.000Those issues are as alive today as they were in October of 64. Then you had the Reagan Democrats.
00:04:33.000Then we had the contract with America and won control of the House for the first time in 40 years, got re-elected for the first time in 68 years, not since 1928, had Republicans won twice in a row.
00:04:45.000And we shifted the whole balance of power in Washington.
00:06:12.000Who were increasingly fed up with the left.
00:06:15.000And you had this extraordinary charismatic leader who I think is captured best by giving out french fries at McDonald's and then getting on a garbage truck and putting on a garbage collector's vest and walking into a 50,000 people arena and saying, they tell me this makes me look thinner.
00:06:34.000Maybe I should wear it for the rest of the campaign.
00:06:36.000I mean, the ability to connect with humans.
00:06:39.000Remember, 87% of the country goes to McDonald's at least once a year.
00:06:44.000And 40 million Americans, including Jeff Bezos, have actually worked And from a historical lens, I want to stay on this theme.
00:07:06.000The story very well was supposed to be that...
00:07:18.000The story that they wanted to write was that it was overwhelming, and this guy from New York kind of put up his hands, and he surrendered, and he went back to Mar-a-Lago to golf, and he was a one-term surprise, one-off president, and we kind of rid ourselves of that.
00:07:45.000Not just America's greatest comeback story, but just how unique what we have lived through is.
00:07:53.000Well, let me point out, by the way, we're speaking during a week when the Trump endorsed candidate just won the presidency of Poland in a very narrow way.
00:08:19.000So there's something very big going on planet-wide.
00:08:22.000Trump does make a big difference, and I think you have to start with, let me just ask yourself, as you point out, this is a billionaire.
00:08:32.000Who I think owns like 18 or 19 golf courses.
00:08:34.000He could go home, spend the rest of his life being happy.
00:08:38.000He gets assaulted viciously for four years.
00:08:42.000Loses what I think is absolutely a rigged election.
00:08:46.000is at his low point after January 6th with everybody pounding on him, including a number of Republicans.
00:08:52.000And he ends up, you know, And I really think he believes that, that this is an act of citizenship and of patriotism.
00:09:05.000And then, having already been investigated, impeached twice, had four different efforts to put him in jail.
00:09:14.000Then he has two assassination attempts.
00:09:16.000And I remember when Cliss and I made movies about John Paul II and about Ronald Reagan.
00:09:23.000They were both shot by an attempted assassin.
00:09:26.000And when they first got together, they compared notes on why did God spare them?
00:09:30.000And they concluded God spared them to defeat the Soviet Empire, which they did in the following eight or nine years.
00:09:37.000Well, I think Trump, and I know this in part from Speaker Mike Johnson, who was with President Trump in Mar-a-Lago the day he was told about the second potential assassin who had been caught literally on the golf course.
00:09:51.000trying to get ready to shoot the president while he was golfing.
00:09:54.000And as Johnson told me, that really broke through.
00:09:58.000And I think that's why you see in the inaugural address and in later speeches that I think Trump really does think he was spared.
00:10:11.000Because as you'll remember, Butler, if he had turned one second later, he'd have been dead.
00:10:16.000I said at the time, this was a providential event.
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00:11:46.000Mr. Speaker, yesterday we saw a terrible terrorist attack in Boulder, Colorado, of an illegal Muslim who overstayed his visa granted by the Biden administration.
00:11:59.000Well, it's like everything we're seeing on campuses.
00:12:01.000We are going to have to make a decision, which the Europeans have not been able to make, that we are not going to accept people who come here to engage in terrorism or come here to impose radically changes on us that we don't want.
00:12:16.000And I think we're going to have to go through a process.
00:12:18.000And this is why they're changing the whole student visa application process.
00:12:22.000Because if you end up being the kind of person who has been on the Internet explaining how
00:12:40.000And we have an obligation to protect our citizens from the kind of nutcake professors at some of these big universities who are preaching hatred of America or preaching the destruction of Israel, an act of genocide.
00:12:53.000And I think, you know, we've had a series of wake-up calls.
00:12:58.000The bombings of the American embassies in the late 90s, the attack at 9-11.
00:13:05.000Again and again we've had these wake-up calls.
00:13:07.000And what happened in Boulder, Colorado is just one more wake-up call.
00:13:11.000And I am for, in this case, locking that guy up for the rest of his life because he tried to kill a whole group of people in a very horrible way using a flamethrower.
00:13:21.000But I'm also for saying, if those are really your views, you have no place in the United States.
00:13:28.000And I think for American citizens, we're going to have to adopt very tough rules because you can't tolerate this kind of hatred and this willingness to kill your fellow citizens.
00:13:38.000So, Mr. Speaker, to kind of provocatively point in that direction, and again, I encourage everyone to check out Trump's triumph, Mr. Speaker's new book.
00:13:47.000Is it time for us to reconsider what countries we're actually allowing people from?
00:13:51.000Is there an Islamic fundamentalism problem?
00:13:54.000And I don't just mean radical Islamic terror, but is there a problem that Western civilization has to reckon with that?
00:14:01.000Are we going to continue to import tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands of Mohammedans that believe in this ideology that is basically a sleeper cell under the surface of Western civilization, Mr. Speaker?
00:14:12.000Well, I certainly think we have to look at.
00:14:42.000You know, if somebody wants to come to America, I'm for that.
00:14:53.000Chris and I made a terrific film called Journey to America about people who come here legally from all sorts of backgrounds, including, for example, Henry Kissinger.
00:15:03.000But I am against our blindly allowing people to show up here who explicitly want to replace the United States, want to impose on us.
00:15:13.000Radical values that fundamentally violate our belief system.
00:15:18.000And I think that we have to recognize you cannot have political correctness if it means the death of Americans.
00:15:26.000In closing, Mr. Speaker, what would you say is the biggest challenge currently, one minute remaining, to President Trump finishing this triumph and having a successful second term?
00:15:36.000The biggest challenge is to convince the American people that this is the best path forward and that they have to turn out and vote in 26 and then turn out.
00:15:45.000In the end, and it's a great thing about America, as Abraham Lincoln said, with popular sentiment, nothing can fail.
00:15:55.000Without popular sentiment, nothing can succeed.
00:15:57.000We have to both do the right thing and convince the American people that it's the right thing.
00:16:39.000It goes Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, then Mark, and then us as far as non-lefty, non-woke, and then just the list keeps on going from there.
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00:17:58.000Yesterday, there was, it could have been even worse.
00:18:01.000And this is a pattern, and this is a theme.
00:18:03.000And we don't talk about every single one of these stories in great detail, but when you start to see a pattern emerge, you have to isolate it, which is the...
00:18:22.000And this illegal alien Egyptian lunatic, Islamist, Mohammedan, shows up with molotov cocktails and attempts to try to kill all of the pro-Israel Jewish protesters that are out there, and with a makeshift flamethrower.
00:18:42.000Now, praise the Lord that this guy didn't just come with a gun.
00:18:45.000He tried to be really just grotesque in how he was going forward.
00:18:50.000I don't think anyone died, thankfully, but that situation is still unfolding.
00:19:41.000The first of which, he yelled, free Palestine.
00:19:44.000The same thing that that very evil individual yelled in Washington, D.C. when he killed that couple, of which were Christian, outside of the Jewish Museum in downtown Washington, D.C. We also saw the attempted firebombing of Josh Shapiro's home.
00:20:10.000Well, first of all, and this just needs to be said, the misunderstanding of what is actually happening between Israel and Hamas drives people to do insane stuff.
00:20:22.000For example, front page of the New York Times says, over 20 killed at Gaza aid site.
00:20:27.000Crowds in need of food come under fire.
00:21:09.000At least a million, but hundreds of thousands of Islamists into our country, and they have killed children, and then it ends up being millions.
00:21:15.000So this guy in particular was an illegal alien.
00:21:19.000So I want you to understand, when judges are getting in the way of mass deportations, they are protecting this guy from going back to Egypt.
00:22:00.000Despite the nature of the charges brought against suspect, Mohammed Sabri Solomon, there's still going to be a whole fight about extradition, about getting them out of our country.
00:22:12.000So when judges are getting in the way of us doing mass deportations, every day there are terrorists in this country that are just waiting to erupt.
00:22:23.000Another point on this that I think is important is that If you are a Jewish American, or a Christian for that matter, you should walk around armed.
00:22:33.000If you are a Jewish person in this country, you should never leave your house without a firearm.
00:22:45.000Last week I was in the Fox News green room and they have the most wonderful makeup artists and Fox has been great to us and it's been a mutually wonderful relationship for...
00:23:45.000You couple that, though, with some of the other just brain rot that I'm seeing, the kind of just, the, we're going to blame Jews for everything.
00:23:55.000Type of narrative that's building in the West.
00:24:01.000And I think to myself, there's something that is degrading in front of our eyes.
00:25:14.000Even though that Charlie honors the Shabbat, he's writing a book on the Shabbat, he's learning biblical Hebrew, this is where they're going to call me an anti-Semite.
00:25:21.000To the Jews of America, how are you still voting Democrat and why are you still giving money to the institutions and the charities and the political parties that hate you and want you dead?
00:25:33.000My tolerance with the American Jews that are giving money and playing footsie with the American left is nothing.
00:25:39.000In fact, my patience has completely run out.
00:25:43.000If you want to just be independent, go be like some of these other new thinkers that are just kind of in the middle, and I don't like either party.
00:25:51.000But if you are an American Jew and you are continually giving your own philanthropic dollars to nonprofits that hate you, let me be even more blunt.
00:26:01.000If you as a Jewish American, if you as a Zionist, whatever you want to say, are not to the right of Pat Buchanan on immigration, then what exactly are we doing here?
00:26:14.000If you are not calling for a complete moratorium on immigration, you've got to wonder, why is that?
00:26:21.000So you want the borders to stay wide open so more young Jews could be hunted down in the streets?
00:26:28.000And look, the terrorism gets all the headlines, but it's the soft bigotry that we are seeing on a daily basis.
00:26:35.000And I have to ask the Jews of America, do you have a death wish?
00:26:39.000I mean, I'm saying that as bluntly as possible.
00:26:42.000You should say no more Muslims coming into America.
00:27:39.000It is about what does it materialize when you bring in millions of them and they form their own communities, their own Sharia ways of life, and they have a tendency not to assimilate.
00:27:51.000And so why do they have to come to America?
00:27:55.000Why is it that American Jews are so silent on this?
00:27:59.000Why is it that I, as an American I guess it's just my job.
00:28:06.000But there should be, and it won't be, there should be Jews marching in the streets with all the combined financial and political power that American Jews have, which is quite a lot because Jews are very successful because they honor the Torah.
00:28:17.000You honor the Torah, you're going to be successful.
00:30:03.000Of all the Muslims that go after them, 70 Christians were beheaded and silence.
00:30:09.000So 70 Christians get beheaded in the Congo and silence.
00:30:14.000And meanwhile, if you say something that could be perceived as racist to a black woman on a subway, It warrants like a national federal hate crime investigation in a church.
00:30:24.000So 70 Christians get their heads cut off in the Congo by Islamic fundamentalists, and we're like, oh, you know, diversity is our strength.
00:30:34.000So Christians, about time you talk about it more.