The Charlie Kirk Show - October 09, 2023


Israel vs. Hamas, Civilization vs. Barbarism with Rabbi Daniel Lapin and Will Scharf


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Learn English with Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA, the youth organization fighting for freedom on college campuses across the country. He was on the ground in the wake of the tragic events in Tel Aviv that took place over the weekend.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, your comprehensive Israel conversation: the tragedy, the horror.
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00:00:34.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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00:01:16.000 It's a very heavy day.
00:01:20.000 It's a lot of numbness, to be perfectly honest.
00:01:23.000 Honored to be with you.
00:01:25.000 So sometimes when you wake up to news in Israel, you kind of grow accustomed to, you know, rockets going back and forth, 10 people dead, 15 people dead.
00:01:38.000 I'm not minimizing that suffering, but you kind of grow accustomed to that news cycle with Israel. 0.74
00:01:42.000 Every couple of years, there's an operation or a border dispute.
00:01:47.000 I mean, Israel has been in some form of a conflict my entire life.
00:01:51.000 My whole life.
00:01:51.000 I mean, I remember when I visited Israel for the embassy to be moved to Jerusalem.
00:01:58.000 There was a border dispute, Gaza, Hezbollah, rockets going here, rockets going there.
00:02:03.000 You kind of typically a few terrorists sneak in through a tunnel.
00:02:06.000 Maybe, maybe, maybe they'll kidnap an Israeli citizen. 0.98
00:02:10.000 And if they do, that's a big deal.
00:02:13.000 So I woke up on Saturday morning.
00:02:16.000 It's my Shabbat, my Sabbath, to go watch college football.
00:02:21.000 And I'm flipping through the channels, and you know, it's kind of the Israel news.
00:02:24.000 And my immediate gut reaction is, oh, that's too bad.
00:02:28.000 Border dispute type conflict.
00:02:30.000 And all of a sudden, I was looking at the image and I was like, hold on a second.
00:02:33.000 This is not what we're used to.
00:02:35.000 Your pattern recognition kind of gets thrown off.
00:02:38.000 And then you go to one channel, turn to BBC, and in all caps, Israel declares war.
00:02:46.000 What?
00:02:47.000 You see, if you know anything about Israeli history, which isn't that long in the modern era, they rarely will do a declaration of war.
00:02:56.000 They'll do an operation.
00:02:57.000 They'll do a military deployment.
00:02:59.000 But to use the word war, and all of a sudden, I kept re-referencing these news cycles, these news channels over the weekend.
00:03:07.000 And it said, okay, 40 people died.
00:03:08.000 I was like, wow, that's bad.
00:03:10.000 And then 70 dead, then 150 dead, and then 200 dead, and then 350 dead, and then 500 dead, and then 800 dead, and 100 people taken as hostages.
00:03:26.000 And I was watching this and I was growing numb, to be honest.
00:03:31.000 And thousands of people injured.
00:03:35.000 The horror and the barbarism here is hard to even comprehend.
00:03:40.000 Israel is now at total war.
00:03:41.000 We're going to go through the whole deal.
00:03:43.000 We're going to show you the map.
00:03:44.000 We're going to show you where is Gaza.
00:03:46.000 We're going to show you how Israel came into existence in the modern era.
00:03:50.000 We're going to show Hezbollah. 0.97
00:03:51.000 We're going to show what is the West Bank.
00:03:52.000 We're going to go through all of that.
00:03:54.000 But I got to be very honest with you here.
00:03:57.000 I want to make sure we ask the right questions.
00:03:59.000 As someone who has visited the very gate, I have been to the very gate that these terrorists went through from Hamas. 0.83
00:04:09.000 I am scrambling for an explanation, anybody to explain to me what the heck happened in Israel over the weekend.
00:04:20.000 Yes, we know that there were allegedly, some people say that there was paragliders and people penetrating the fence and rockets, 5,000 rockets that went through the Iron Dome.
00:04:31.000 But hold on a second.
00:04:33.000 This kind of came out of nowhere.
00:04:35.000 They go into a music festival and they kidnap 100 people.
00:04:40.000 That doesn't happen in Israel in the modern era.
00:04:44.000 It just doesn't.
00:04:45.000 When they kidnapped like five in the early 2000s, this was like a massive, massive deal.
00:04:51.000 And I have to just, you know, take pause here.
00:04:55.000 Yes, it was the 50-year anniversary of the Yom Kippur War.
00:04:58.000 Yes, it was a holy day where Israelis or Jews celebrate reading the entire Torah, Simshat Torah.
00:05:11.000 But let's take a step.
00:05:12.000 How did this happen?
00:05:13.000 Israel is by far the most alert country in the world.
00:05:18.000 I remember when I went to Hebron or the Golan Heights or went to the Gaza Strip, there's nothing but young 19 or 20 year olds with automatic machine guns walking the streets.
00:05:29.000 I mean, at a coffee shop, at a bar, at a restaurant.
00:05:32.000 It is without a doubt the most militarized country that I've ever been to.
00:05:36.000 Maybe the most militarized country in the world.
00:05:38.000 Maybe.
00:05:38.000 I mean, I don't know.
00:05:39.000 Maybe there's other Arab countries that are militarized.
00:05:42.000 And so there's something wrong here.
00:05:44.000 It is a country built as a fortress.
00:05:46.000 I don't know what that thing wrong is, but there's more to the story and we're going to learn it at some time.
00:05:52.000 Maybe the Israeli government was double-crossed.
00:05:55.000 Maybe they had intelligence about this.
00:05:58.000 We don't know, but let's just go through the facts here.
00:06:02.000 You have 800 militants from Hamas, Gaza.
00:06:06.000 Gaza is like 25 miles by seven miles at the most generous measurements.
00:06:13.000 That is a sliver.
00:06:15.000 It's like the size of Queens, New York, 2.5 million people.
00:06:19.000 There's only so many attack vectors that Hamas could go through.
00:06:24.000 And you're trying to tell me on the 50-year anniversary of the Yom Kippur War, one of the most holy days, we know Arabs like to attack on holy days, okay? 1.00
00:06:33.000 They like that.
00:06:35.000 They think that Jews have their guard down, that they're able to get 800 people through the border.
00:06:40.000 They go to a music festival and start mowing people down, successfully kidnap Israelis and bring them back to Israel. 1.00
00:06:47.000 And by some public reports, it took three hours for the IDF to get there.
00:06:54.000 Three hours?
00:06:56.000 I was texting some people in the IDF.
00:06:59.000 Some people say as much as six hours.
00:07:01.000 And Israel is not very big.
00:07:03.000 I flew a helicopter around Israel with IDF soldiers.
00:07:06.000 We got from Jerusalem to the Gulf, to Gaza in about 40 minutes via helicopter.
00:07:13.000 And it took six hours for help to get there.
00:07:17.000 Where were the border agents or the drone reconnaissance?
00:07:22.000 I'm going to read you a text from someone who's very high up in the IDF.
00:07:26.000 He said, situation is not good.
00:07:28.000 A lot of disappointment from IDF.
00:07:30.000 It's really biblical times.
00:07:32.000 When God is angry on us, it is full power.
00:07:34.000 We are doing the best we can to get out of this, and we will with God's help.
00:07:38.000 At the end of the day, we are strong, very intense time.
00:07:41.000 Nobody here understands how the Israeli intelligence missed this.
00:07:46.000 Anger is everywhere.
00:07:47.000 Now, he doesn't speak the best English, so that's his, but that's actually, it's the best he can.
00:07:51.000 The language had to be cleaned up a little bit.
00:07:54.000 Usually there's helicopters flying all over the place.
00:07:56.000 And I just want to, I don't know what the complete picture is here, but you're trying to tell me that the CIA, Mossad, Israeli intelligence, everybody missed this.
00:08:08.000 It's not, I want you to understand this is not like the United States southern border, where you have 2,800 miles where someone could go through.
00:08:18.000 This is bizarre and sad and tragic.
00:08:24.000 Israel cares about its border deeply.
00:08:27.000 They work hard to secure it.
00:08:29.000 They have billions of dollars of technology built completely and totally on border security.
00:08:36.000 How did this happen?
00:08:38.000 And now Israel is planning a ground invasion of Gaza.
00:08:41.000 Before they do that, somebody should say, have you guys fixed the intelligence bug in your own operating system?
00:08:48.000 Is this a trap that you guys are going into?
00:08:51.000 Have you purged the traitors in your midst?
00:08:54.000 And more importantly, has America cautioned Israel to measure twice and cut once before you pull 300,000 reservists to go into Gaza? 0.99
00:09:05.000 And I could go into the detail, the horror and the barbarism by these Muslims, what these Muslims did to kidnap these young girls, rape them, murder them, indiscriminate killing. 1.00
00:09:19.000 Before, I just have to re-emphasize this, and anybody is welcome to email us, freedom at charliekirk.com. 0.97
00:09:25.000 What really happened here?
00:09:26.000 We know that the public reports, but this is very, very hard for me to believe at face value.
00:09:33.000 I'm just being honest.
00:09:33.000 I'm just asking questions.
00:09:35.000 And I'm not alone.
00:09:36.000 I have asked Israeli after Israeli in the IDF, out of the IDF, and they said, Charlie, this is beyond perplexing.
00:09:43.000 Nobody understands it.
00:09:45.000 Because it's one of, it's only a couple explanations.
00:09:48.000 Israel is completely, they are completely incompetent, and they have no idea what they're doing, and they really don't have much of a border. 0.95
00:09:56.000 Or maybe they had an intelligence failure. 0.97
00:09:58.000 I'm not sure, but this is one of the more bloody and horrific days in Jewish history, let alone Israeli history.
00:10:06.000 Not to mention nine Americans also killed.
00:10:08.000 It's hard not to just be emotional with the suffering that is occurring right now in Israel. 0.99
00:10:15.000 These savage animals, in the name of Islam, go and just, they just mow down young girls. 1.00
00:10:22.000 They kidnapped, you know what they said? 1.00
00:10:24.000 They said, we have kidnapped the girls, we killed the ugly ones, and we're raping the pretty ones. 1.00
00:10:28.000 This is what you're dealing with. 1.00
00:10:30.000 Yeah, quite a worldview.
00:10:33.000 Okay, there's a lot to get to.
00:10:34.000 First, I just want to reiterate, very, very hard for me to understand how Israel, the most fortified country on the planet, allows this to occur.
00:10:43.000 Israel is the freest society in a desert of totalitarianism. 0.51
00:10:47.000 The Israeli government's far from perfect.
00:10:49.000 There's plenty that I could say I don't like what they do.
00:10:51.000 It's a very complicated country, and I don't get involved in Israeli politics, but why should I?
00:10:57.000 But Israel has a right to exist, and Israel has a right to defend itself 100%.
00:11:01.000 It's not even a question.
00:11:03.000 That is not in full agreement, by the way.
00:11:06.000 I'm going to, later in the show, I'm going to show you how many Americans are thrilled this happened.
00:11:12.000 People are taken to the streets.
00:11:13.000 There are 81 people at Harvard University, 31, 31 people at Harvard University, I'm sorry, that are in total, they love it. 0.96
00:11:20.000 They love that these girls are getting raped and they love the murder. 0.95
00:11:23.000 It's not an exaggeration. 0.99
00:11:24.000 Harvard organizers.
00:11:24.000 I'll show it to you.
00:11:26.000 So Israel started way back in 1948.
00:11:30.000 It triggered the Arab-Israeli war.
00:11:32.000 They went to war.
00:11:32.000 They were invaded from every possible direction and they held off the invasion.
00:11:37.000 Israel has been at some form of war basically in every year of its existence.
00:11:42.000 Then, of course, the Yom Kippur War in 1973 was one of the most dark times for modern Israel.
00:11:52.000 They were attacked by surprise, and then Prime Minister Golda Mair actually had advance notice that this was going to happen.
00:12:02.000 Golda Mair knew that Egypt was going to invade, knew that Syria was going to invade, and Golda Mair decided not to preemptively strike.
00:12:10.000 Golda Mair at the time in 1973 said, you know what?
00:12:16.000 If we strike first, we're going to lose all the international community support.
00:12:20.000 So she allowed Israel to get attacked from every direction, and they responded. 0.78
00:12:25.000 And of course, 1967, there was a six-day war.
00:12:28.000 Typically, these wars don't last very long.
00:12:30.000 Even the Yom Kippur War was only like three weeks. 0.53
00:12:32.000 Israel has a superior military, superior fighting force.
00:12:36.000 This one feels different and sounds different.
00:12:39.000 And so do we have the map of the region, Ryan or Blake, that we could put up?
00:12:43.000 It's time to do a little bit of a geography lesson.
00:12:46.000 So Israel is an oasis in a hellish desert. 0.92
00:12:50.000 And again, to be perfectly clear, I'm not an apologist for the Israeli government.
00:12:54.000 Okay, there's plenty of things they do that I wouldn't approve of.
00:12:57.000 But again, they have a right to exist.
00:12:59.000 God bless that they exist.
00:13:01.000 I was able to see Capernaum, Hebron, Bethlehem, which is now taken over by the Arabs. 1.00
00:13:06.000 Okay, that's one of the maps, but that map's a little deceiving.
00:13:10.000 But as you can see on the left, that is the all blue.
00:13:15.000 And for you on podcasting, we'll put this up at charliekirk.com.
00:13:18.000 Israel has decided through peace agreements to give land back.
00:13:23.000 So they gave up the Sinai, which of course is very important in Jewish history, to Egypt, and that peace deal actually worked.
00:13:30.000 They've given up land throughout their history, throughout their 40, 50-year history, in the pursuit of peace.
00:13:35.000 Israel is about the size of New Jersey, just so you know what you're dealing with. 1.00
00:13:38.000 Israel is about the size of New Jersey, and it's about 7 million people, 7, 8 million people.
00:13:44.000 About half of the world's Jewry lives in Israel.
00:13:48.000 So there's something called the West Bank.
00:13:50.000 And if you could see those red dots there, the West Bank is called the West Bank.
00:13:55.000 It's west of Jordan, west of the Jordan River.
00:13:58.000 So it's east of Tel Aviv, west of Jordan.
00:14:01.000 And that's really where a lot of this is in contention, but not this particular conflict.
00:14:04.000 There's a small sliver that you might see on the screen right near the Mediterranean.
00:14:09.000 Yeah, yeah, please put 33 up.
00:14:10.000 That's a better, better visual, please.
00:14:12.000 Thank you.
00:14:13.000 So 33, you'll see.
00:14:15.000 The Gaza Strip is, again, it's a very, very small strip with 2.5 million people.
00:14:22.000 Oh, there's over 9 million people in Israel now?
00:14:24.000 Got it.
00:14:24.000 9.4 million people in Israel.
00:14:26.000 Thank you.
00:14:27.000 The Gaza Strip is, it's very, very hard to even see on the map.
00:14:32.000 About 2.5 million people live right on the Mediterranean, and it's been under occupation of Hamas. 0.89
00:14:39.000 Hamas is a terrorist organization.
00:14:41.000 They play footsie with the Palestinian Authority. 0.97
00:14:44.000 We're going to talk all about the Palestinian Authority.
00:14:46.000 And so there's basically two hot pockets.
00:14:48.000 There's the West Bank, which is under constant contention because of Jewish settlements.
00:14:54.000 And that includes Bethlehem and Hebron and goes all the way up to the mouth of the Jordan River.
00:14:59.000 And it even surrounds Jerusalem.
00:15:01.000 But then there's this other problem, child, which is actually the bigger problem right now.
00:15:05.000 And that's where all the attention is being directed.
00:15:07.000 You have to wonder, are the Arabs trying to get Israel to dedicate all their military forces to Gaza and they're going to be invaded from the north or from another direction?
00:15:15.000 It's worth thinking about.
00:15:16.000 Is Syria and Lebanon going to invade Israel while they have all of their forces down to Gaza?
00:15:22.000 We'll explain more the geography, the history, and the complexity.
00:15:25.000 On this dark day, over 800 Jews and some Americans killed at the hands of Muslims.
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00:17:18.000 If you're listening on podcasting, you can follow along with these maps.
00:17:20.000 We're going to post them on charliekirk.com.
00:17:22.000 Geography is not exactly America's strong suit, unfortunately.
00:17:26.000 We're actually really bad at it.
00:17:28.000 I love geography.
00:17:29.000 So let's put that one plain.
00:17:30.000 Thank you.
00:17:31.000 So that's the state of Israel.
00:17:32.000 Again, the West Bank, I'm going to get a lot of angry emails.
00:17:35.000 This is part of Israel, whatever.
00:17:37.000 That's not the point.
00:17:38.000 That is what's called the West Bank.
00:17:40.000 I'm not going to get into all that right now.
00:17:41.000 That's not useful conversation.
00:17:43.000 What is important, though, is the Gaza Strip is disconnected from the West Bank.
00:17:47.000 The West Bank is where the quote-unquote capital of the Palestinian Authority is.
00:17:51.000 It's where Hamahmou Abbas is.
00:17:53.000 Who's a money laundering gangster?
00:17:55.000 He's a bad guy.
00:17:55.000 He runs the PA.
00:17:57.000 But Gaza used to be controlled by the Israeli government.
00:18:00.000 There was something called the Oslo Accords that Bill Clinton brokered, which basically started the withdrawal of Israel out of Gaza in the pursuit of peace.
00:18:09.000 Gaza, a very populated strip.
00:18:11.000 And eventually in 2005, there was the Gaza Strip Agreement that said, we're going to get rid of all the settlements, all Israeli soldiers. 0.97
00:18:18.000 You guys can govern yourself, have a great time.
00:18:20.000 And that ended up being a really bad decision for multiple reasons.
00:18:25.000 But more than anything else, they promptly elected Hamas to control the Gaza Strip.
00:18:31.000 And it basically became a hot box.
00:18:33.000 It became like a hot box of fury and intensity and rage because they basically were able to get so many young men in the hot box of Gaza to say, see, Israel is blockading us.
00:18:46.000 Let's launch rockets.
00:18:47.000 And then Israel said, let's blockade you more because you launch rockets.
00:18:50.000 And it started this kind of cascade of negative interventions where Gaza, which again is controlled by a terror organization, Hamas, which is supported by Iran, which again, Joe Biden is awfully friendly with, it just creates this intensity that rises and rises and rises.
00:19:10.000 Okay.
00:19:11.000 So it's a city of 2 million people.
00:19:14.000 Here's the best way I could explain it that is essentially ruled by a cartel, except they claim to follow the will of Allah, that they're following the will of the Islamic caliphate, or they're trying to recreate the caliphate, and that they feel as if they're on the right side of history.
00:19:28.000 And it kind of has become a cesspool, to be perfectly honest.
00:19:30.000 It's very poor, densely populated, and Hamas, they use children and women as human shields. 0.96
00:19:40.000 They have for quite some time.
00:19:41.000 So now this weekend, Hamas brings in 800 militants and they do some of the most medieval, bloody, inexplicable war crimes that we've seen in the modern era.
00:19:56.000 Now understand when the bad guys say decolonization, this is who they are. 0.96
00:20:02.000 Absent Israel, this is what the Middle East is. 0.99
00:20:05.000 Raping, torturing, kidnapping, mutilation, using human shields. 0.87
00:20:10.000 They celebrate it.
00:20:12.000 If you don't believe me, look at the protests in the streets.
00:20:14.000 In America, 500 years ago, Western laws imposed the death penalty for these things.
00:20:22.000 This idea of just war, which came from Augustine, this idea of trying to fight a cleaner war, which I know sounds weird, but you don't fire on hospitals.
00:20:31.000 You don't fire on women.
00:20:32.000 You don't fire on children.
00:20:33.000 Active rules of engagement.
00:20:35.000 Those things have been moral advancements for society.
00:20:38.000 You don't target innocents.
00:20:39.000 That war is the worst thing that human beings do.
00:20:42.000 But is there a way to fight war where you're not firing on a 20-year-old at a dance ceremony?
00:20:49.000 Hamas believes in none of that. 0.99
00:20:51.000 Hamas are bloodthirsty, savage animals. 0.99
00:20:55.000 And I could play video after video after video. 0.93
00:21:00.000 But one of the reasons why Israel should have a right to defend itself is Israel is a civilized country. 0.99
00:21:09.000 Hamas are a bunch of savage animals. 0.99
00:21:13.000 And I hate to be that simple or that black and white, but it really is that way. 0.99
00:21:17.000 I want to play some tape here.
00:21:20.000 There's so much going on here.
00:21:22.000 Let's go to cut one, please.
00:21:24.000 So we understand, obviously, that Hamas is leading these attacks. 0.55
00:21:28.000 Do we know if other groups are involved as well?
00:21:31.000 Well, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad is involved as well, and both of them are working very closely with Iran that provides them with the arms, with technologies, with the ideas, how to operate.
00:21:42.000 We know that the leadership of Hamas, together with the leadership of Hezbollah, were meeting recently the leadership of Iran.
00:21:49.000 So I'm sure that the Iranians are involved.
00:21:52.000 The Hamas leadership calls on the Palestinians in the West Bank to join in as well.
00:21:58.000 Okay, so Hezbollah is another terror organization to the north that is domiciled in Lebanon.
00:22:06.000 Different deal, same sort of agenda.
00:22:09.000 So there are widespread protests in the streets in favor of what happened, in favor of what happened in America.
00:22:16.000 It really makes you wonder who is in our country right now.
00:22:21.000 I want to just highlight one of them.
00:22:24.000 New York Post, 31 Harvard organizers blame Israel for Hamas, saying Israel, the Hamas attack, is entirely responsible.
00:22:33.000 More than 30 students at Harvard University are holding Israel entirely responsible for the Hamas slaughter, sparking outrage, condemnation, and calls by a congresswoman for the Ivy League School to denounce the abhorrent and heinous support of evil and terrorism.
00:22:49.000 This is what Harvard University is producing.
00:22:52.000 In a letter titled Joint Statement by the Harvard-Palestine Solidarity Group on the Situation in Palestine, 31 student organizations, including the Ivy League affiliate of Amnesty International, condemned Israel, even as its residents are kidnapped.
00:23:08.000 More than 700 have been killed by the terror organization.
00:23:12.000 And they're just getting warmed up if they have their way.
00:23:14.000 Let's play another piece of tape here.
00:23:17.000 Play cut eight.
00:23:19.000 Well, is there any indication that Americans were either killed or kidnapped by terrorists?
00:23:26.000 Yes, we have reports that several Americans were killed.
00:23:31.000 We're working overtime to verify that.
00:23:33.000 At the same time, there are reports of missing Americans.
00:23:37.000 And there again, we're working to verify those reports.
00:23:41.000 Tony Blinken, hearing reports of several Americans were killed.
00:23:44.000 Let's play Cut 27.
00:23:56.000 Goes from dance party to a killing field.
00:23:59.000 So there's something wrong here, obviously.
00:24:03.000 It's very hard to understand how Hamas got through.
00:24:08.000 Was the Israeli government double-crossed?
00:24:12.000 Nobody has a good answer here at all.
00:24:15.000 260 young people were butchered at a music festival.
00:24:19.000 This is one of the bloodiest and deadliest days in all of Jewish history. 1.00
00:24:24.000 There are Americans that are being held hostage right now.
00:24:28.000 Right now.
00:24:30.000 Joe Biden held a barbecue at the White House last night, just chilling and hanging out.
00:24:34.000 His administration doesn't care.
00:24:36.000 His regime doesn't care.
00:24:38.000 You look at all the weaponry that we left behind in Afghanistan.
00:24:42.000 Why would they care?
00:24:45.000 You guys are nothing but peasants and serfs.
00:24:47.000 But there's another wrinkle here, and this is not a comfortable topic.
00:24:52.000 Are there sleeper cells in the United States that are going to launch a terror attack on our big cities?
00:24:57.000 10 million people are on pace to cross our border.
00:25:00.000 We don't know who these people are.
00:25:01.000 They're from over 130 countries.
00:25:04.000 Corey Booker is standing with signs that says get rid of all the walls, open borders.
00:25:10.000 Are there Hamas terrorists right now in Dallas, Chicago, New York?
00:25:15.000 If they get their hands on a weapon or a dirty bomb, is anybody even mentioning this?
00:25:22.000 Well, Donald Trump is.
00:25:23.000 Donald Trump put on Truth Social.
00:25:26.000 He said that, and I'm going to read his quote exactly.
00:25:30.000 The same people that raided Israel are pouring into our once beautiful USA through our totally open southern border at record numbers. 0.99
00:25:36.000 Are they planning an attack within our country?
00:25:38.000 I'm not trying to make you panic or trying to make you in a state of fear or afraid, but Israel's border is far more secure than our border.
00:25:47.000 Far more secure.
00:25:49.000 They actually care about their border.
00:25:50.000 We don't.
00:25:51.000 We have a government that couldn't care less about our border.
00:25:54.000 We know that U.S. weapons from Afghanistan ended up in the Palestinian hands in the Gaza Strip that then were used to go kill Americans. 0.56
00:26:01.000 Americans died. 0.99
00:26:02.000 Nine Americans died here.
00:26:03.000 So we funded the death of our own Americans, which of course our government does all the time. 0.90
00:26:07.000 That shouldn't shock you.
00:26:09.000 Government being co-conspirators in the death and murder of Americans happens on a daily basis.
00:26:13.000 So not a big shock there.
00:26:15.000 Biden released $6 billion to Iran.
00:26:18.000 We have all the Iranian oil parts here components.
00:26:23.000 Joe Biden's doing a barbecue.
00:26:28.000 Israel is home to half of all the world's Jews. 0.99
00:26:31.000 The Muslims that run Hamas are not going to stop until they believe they can kill every single Jew on the face of the earth. 1.00
00:26:38.000 That is their goal. 0.99
00:26:39.000 And now we're about to see a massive, massive war in the Middle East.
00:26:43.000 Israel is positioning hundreds of thousands of troops to invade Gaza.
00:26:49.000 Are they falling into a trap?
00:26:51.000 Is this going to escalate now into a regional war that will involve Iran and China?
00:26:58.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:27:00.000 We're going to continue with the response.
00:27:02.000 Wait till I read what Rashida Talib had to say.
00:27:04.000 Somebody says, Charlie, how is Israel any better than Hamas? 1.00
00:27:07.000 Let me tell you, Israel. 0.60
00:27:08.000 Israel right now is telling people to leave the area they're about to bomb.
00:27:14.000 They're sending leaflets and they're telling people to get out.
00:27:17.000 They're giving people notice of where they're going to declare war. 0.99
00:27:22.000 Did Hamas give people notice before they go and raped all those women? 0.97
00:27:26.000 And just understand that rape at war is normative to the uncivilized. 0.96
00:27:32.000 They're like, what? 0.99
00:27:32.000 Of course, we just raped the women. 0.99
00:27:36.000 Why would that be a problem? 0.99
00:27:38.000 Do you know that there is a Jewish law in Deuteronomy that says if you win a war, that if you see a woman that you like, not only are you not allowed to rape the woman, but you must take her home, let her mourn her family for 30 days, and then you may only touch her if you take her as your wife.
00:28:04.000 That is a Jewish law.
00:28:08.000 That's a big civilizational advancement. 0.99
00:28:11.000 Let's put this image up of all the young women. 0.98
00:28:13.000 I mean, if you see something, there's obviously a commonality. 0.99
00:28:18.000 The animals, they want the good-looking young girls. 0.99
00:28:21.000 They just killed all the men, and they said clearly, we've killed all the ugly ones. 0.99
00:28:26.000 This is not just a border dispute. 0.99
00:28:29.000 This is outright satanic savagery is what we're dealing with here, right there.
00:28:35.000 You know, somebody on Twitter who's a numbskull said, wow, Israeli people are really good-looking. 1.00
00:28:42.000 Well, yeah, but moron, they're all getting raped right now. 1.00
00:28:48.000 Why do you think they kidnapped them? 1.00
00:28:50.000 So now you have these savage Islamic pigs that are currently raping American citizens, Israeli citizens. 1.00
00:29:01.000 Yeah, this is beyond humiliating for the Israeli government. 1.00
00:29:07.000 So how should one respond?
00:29:09.000 Israel is going to do what Israel does. 0.98
00:29:10.000 Israel is going to probably overreact. 0.90
00:29:11.000 Let me tell you what's going to happen.
00:29:13.000 So right now, the international community is split.
00:29:16.000 It's honestly not even in Israel's favor because the whole international community hates Israel so much.
00:29:20.000 Why?
00:29:20.000 Not because of the Jewish thing.
00:29:22.000 That's actually not why.
00:29:23.000 They hate Israel because they have a border, because they have a national identity, and because they are a case for sovereignty.
00:29:29.000 That's why.
00:29:31.000 Yes, there's plenty of anti-Semites at the UN.
00:29:33.000 There's plenty of Jew haters, but it's more than that.
00:29:36.000 Israel is a symbol because they're expressly clear about the type of nation they wish to be.
00:29:42.000 Israel is against the modern multiculturalist project of letting anybody into your country and destroying your national identity.
00:29:53.000 Okay?
00:29:54.000 That's why they hate Israel. 0.94
00:29:56.000 They protect their Jewish identity.
00:29:58.000 They have borders. 0.61
00:29:59.000 They deport people that are rabble rousers. 1.00
00:30:02.000 And the national, the international groups say, no, no, no, you must have, like Soros, a nation is not a thing.
00:30:09.000 Allow the borders completely and totally wide open.
00:30:14.000 So Israel is probably going to overreact. 0.84
00:30:16.000 And who can blame them?
00:30:18.000 This is a complete humiliation.
00:30:20.000 But understand this. 0.95
00:30:22.000 The Muslims hope they overreact. 1.00
00:30:25.000 The Muslims, we overreacted after 9-11, and that wasn't a good thing.
00:30:31.000 We got into several no-win wars, lost 4,500 people in Iraq, spent trillions of dollars, demoralized our nation.
00:30:38.000 The Muslims' playbook is surprise attack, use children and women as human shields, build international support that can then get consensus against Israel, and people will forget that Israel was attacked in the first place. 1.00
00:30:53.000 It has worked before. 0.85
00:30:56.000 So you have an atrocity, you beg for sympathy after you get punished.
00:31:01.000 A lot more to cover here on this very, very dark Monday.
00:31:04.000 I'm not here to tell Israel what to do.
00:31:06.000 They know it better than I do.
00:31:07.000 Here's what I hope does not happen.
00:31:09.000 I hope Israel is surgical in their response. 1.00
00:31:12.000 I hope Israel not necessarily even shows restraint because, I mean, showing restraint.
00:31:16.000 How can you tell them to show restraint?
00:31:18.000 I just hope they're prudent.
00:31:20.000 I hope they do not try to escalate this into a regional war.
00:31:26.000 It is up to Israel. 0.98
00:31:27.000 We need to put America first.
00:31:28.000 Let them do what they want to do. 1.00
00:31:29.000 But my goodness, I stand with Israel personally with these savage, God-forsaken barbarians that rape and murder in the name of Islam. 1.00
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00:32:19.000 Live from Jerusalem is Rabbi Daniel Lappin.
00:32:22.000 Thank you so much, Rabbi.
00:32:24.000 You're also in charge of the American Alliance of Jews and Christians.
00:32:27.000 Rabbi, I wish this was under better circumstances.
00:32:30.000 Please tell us what are you feeling hearing on the ground in Israel?
00:32:36.000 Please take us through it.
00:32:39.000 Sure, Charlie.
00:32:40.000 Well, we were in synagogue on Saturday morning, and a large part of Israel's population would have been in synagogue.
00:32:49.000 Saturday morning wasn't just a regular Shabbat morning, it was a Shabbat morning, and it was also a biblical holiday found in Leviticus chapter 23.
00:32:58.000 It's called the eighth day, and it's a day of significance to Christians as well as Jews.
00:33:04.000 And all of a sudden, during the early part of the service, sirens went off, and these are sirens that are set up to automatically detect incoming rockets.
00:33:19.000 And rapid and very sophisticated computer programming determines the rocket trajectory.
00:33:27.000 And then sirens in the target vicinity are set off.
00:33:32.000 And Israelis all know to make for their shelters when that happens.
00:33:38.000 Every building, every synagogue, every hospital, every school has a bomb shelter or a rocket shelter.
00:33:45.000 And that was how it began, although it had begun earlier down south at dawn when about a thousand terrorists broke through the Gaza fence and penetrated as far as about 10 miles into Israel, attacking about 20 settlements and starting to murder.
00:34:11.000 By the end of the day, they'd killed about 800 people.
00:34:15.000 Now, Charlie, can I just put that into context?
00:34:20.000 Israel's got a population of about 7 million Jews.
00:34:24.000 That's about the same as the population.
00:34:27.000 Actually, it's a little less than the population of the state of Georgia.
00:34:31.000 And the United States is 330 million.
00:34:34.000 Well, when a small country like Israel loses 800 people in one day through a series of coordinated massacres, everybody knows somebody.
00:34:45.000 I mean, you just do.
00:34:46.000 The equivalent impact would be about 30,000 people killed in a day in the United States by some concerted terrorist attacks.
00:34:56.000 9-11, you'll remember, was just under 3,000 victims.
00:35:01.000 And the impact over the last two days in Israel has been 10 times what America felt on 9-11 Israel is feeling during this period.
00:35:12.000 And it's also incredibly traumatic because the Israel Defense Force, the IDF, has always been seen as almost unbeatable, almost a magical force of mythical strength and effectiveness.
00:35:34.000 And something really, really bad went wrong on Saturday and Sunday.
00:35:42.000 Obviously now nobody's doing investigations, but I assure you there will be a major investigation when this is all over.
00:35:49.000 And all over probably means a land invasion.
00:35:55.000 based on the mobilization calls, the likes of which Israel has never seen in its history.
00:36:00.000 The mobilization is so extensive that one would have to assume that a land invasion of Gaza is now being planned.
00:36:12.000 So, Rabbi, what I don't understand is how this logistically happened.
00:36:18.000 Egypt warned Israel repeatedly that something big was happening.
00:36:24.000 Before a ground invasion, are there calls internally for some people to say, let's figure out what went wrong?
00:36:31.000 Because if there are traitors in the Israeli government, wouldn't it be wise or prudent to try to resolve that beforehand?
00:36:41.000 And then as far as the everyday Israeli citizen, I'm sure that there is more unity now than almost ever before, where even a week and a half ago, it was a country that felt as if it was almost on the verge of a soft civil war, given all the judiciary conflict.
00:37:00.000 Please go through those two questions.
00:37:03.000 Yeah, Charlie, you're absolutely right.
00:37:05.000 So that this was a colossal failure, nobody has any doubt.
00:37:13.000 You know the number of civilian casualties during the Yom Kippur War, October the 6th, 1973, 50 years ago.
00:37:21.000 The number of civilian casualties during that war was zero, not a single civilian casualty.
00:37:28.000 And so 800 casualties over the last 60 hours is quite unimaginable.
00:37:35.000 It's traumatic.
00:37:36.000 It's shocking.
00:37:37.000 I don't think that anybody is seriously contemplating treachery in the Israeli government or in the Israeli army, but shocking incompetence.
00:37:50.000 And as far as Egypt's warnings, so yes, you know, afterwards, there are always people who claim, well, I told them and I told them the trouble is that Israel gets about two or three of these warnings every week.
00:38:05.000 And it's really difficult, isn't it, to keep up a high level of vigilance month after month, year after year, when not a whole lot is happening.
00:38:17.000 Part of the problem that will, I think, come out is that the 70 kilometers, say 50 odd miles of Gaza border fence have largely been guarded digitally, electronically.
00:38:32.000 And somehow or another, maybe with the help of Iran, nobody knows yet, but somehow that was hacked. 0.71
00:38:40.000 And the Hamas operatives themselves have made videos boasting about how shocked they were that they were not challenged for the first few hours.
00:38:52.000 They didn't expect this kind of success.
00:38:55.000 And again, Israel's primary military doctrine has always been battles on the enemy's territory.
00:39:04.000 We do whatever it takes to make sure that the war doesn't occur on Israeli soil where Israeli, again, the, you know, the death of millions of Jews in the 20th century during the Holocaust through the Nazis still hangs very heavily on the Jewish consciousness.
00:39:23.000 And And so this is like a major thing.
00:39:27.000 And the fact that these people, about a thousand of them, invaded Israeli soil and committed massacre and mayhem for up to several hours, maybe as many as five hours. 0.96
00:39:40.000 Israelis will never forget the anguished phone calls from besieged victims who were watching people being killed, calling, where is the army?
00:39:50.000 Come and help us.
00:39:51.000 This is unprecedented and it will leave permanent changes.
00:39:56.000 So, Rabbi, in just about a minute, do you think that this will be a prolonged conflict or do you think that this will be rather surgical, similar to the six-day war?
00:40:08.000 Bibi Netanyahu says this could take up to months.
00:40:12.000 Being in the region, do you think that this is actually might be the start of something quite long and unfortunately bloody?
00:40:20.000 It's very, very problematic because Israel has never planned for a long engagement.
00:40:27.000 As a matter of fact, the 73 war went much longer than anyone expected.
00:40:33.000 And honestly, without Richard Nixon, who went against the wishes of the State Department, even against the wishes of Henry Kissinger, but he claimed that it was his mother's love for Israel.
00:40:48.000 Richard Nixon resupplied 22,000 tons of military material in 256 flights of United States Air Force cargo.
00:41:01.000 And so the problem is that Israel is not geared for a very long, drawn-out campaign.
00:41:06.000 But on the other hand, what they plan to do in Gaza, in my view, is not something that will happen in five days.
00:41:14.000 So Rabbi, help us respond to what some people would say.
00:41:18.000 Some people will say Israel is an apartheid state, that we must free Palestine.
00:41:24.000 How would you respond to this idea that Israel is an aggressor, apartheid state?
00:41:30.000 How would you respond?
00:41:32.000 Yeah.
00:41:34.000 I think it's really important for people to understand and for people to be helped to understand that virtually every struggle in the world today, almost every crisis and every conflict is a conflict between civilization and barbarism.
00:41:54.000 And civilization as we know it, Western civilization, is essentially a direct product of the Judeo-Christian tradition. 0.84
00:42:07.000 Civilization springs from the pages of scripture, from the pages of the Bible.
00:42:13.000 And so the Israel conflict in the Middle East, again, it's a conflict between barbarism and civilization. 0.90
00:42:22.000 And you don't need to be Jewish to know which side is which.
00:42:26.000 It's not hard to see.
00:42:29.000 If you look at the whole world of Islamic extremism and jihadism, let's put it this way. 0.97
00:42:36.000 I don't know of any pastor who would authorize the cutting the throat of an airline stewardess.
00:42:45.000 There is a difference between barbarism and civilization.
00:42:48.000 And so Israel is acting in the defense of 2,000 years of civilization and that which became Western civilization. 0.72
00:43:01.000 And it is under attack by the forces of barbarism.
00:43:05.000 This is not untrue in other parts of the world as well.
00:43:10.000 And now, again, I don't believe that America belongs in the Ukraine conflict.
00:43:16.000 I don't believe we have a horse in that race.
00:43:17.000 And I don't think we should be there.
00:43:19.000 I think it's thoroughly irresponsible for so much of American armament to be being deployed in that part of the world.
00:43:27.000 I think it's irresponsible in the extreme to drive Russia, India, and China into forming their own economic union, which is almost certainly going to result in the displacing of the dollar as the world reserve currency in the foreseeable future.
00:43:45.000 And so to merely label Israel as an apartheid state is the same technique as trying to label people racist or bigoted or sexist.
00:43:59.000 And the fact is kind of funny that if Israel is an apartheid state, you know, why would it be that so many doctors in Hadassah hospital are Arabs?
00:44:12.000 Why is it that so many medical students in Haifa are Arabs?
00:44:16.000 Why is it that Arabs sit in the Israeli parliament?
00:44:21.000 What Muslim country in the world has Jews or Christians sitting in their governing body?
00:44:27.000 What other nation in the world has Jews or Christians being allowed to build churches?
00:44:33.000 Arabs in Israel build mosques.
00:44:36.000 And so this whole charge is part of the left strategy of not engaging in substantive discussion and factual debate, but merely flinging accusations and terms around, which become automatically scurrilous indictments without any analysis at all. 0.99
00:44:59.000 It's complete rubbish.
00:45:00.000 So just how would you respond to this idea where they say we need to decolonize Israel? 0.99
00:45:05.000 Israel was illegally chartered.
00:45:07.000 Well, I'm not really sure that I can agree with the premise that colonization was quite the evil it was meant to be.
00:45:13.000 The fact is that countries in Africa that used to be British colonies are doing significantly better than countries that weren't.
00:45:21.000 So I'm not sure that I agree with that fundamental premise that colonization and colonialism was the evil it was meant to be.
00:45:30.000 As far as Israel is concerned, again, that is a term decolonized.
00:45:35.000 What exactly is that supposed to mean?
00:45:38.000 People are Israeli citizens.
00:45:40.000 The United Nations agreed with that in 1948.
00:45:44.000 It was the Arabs that didn't agree with it. 0.93
00:45:46.000 And now this is the status quo.
00:45:49.000 Israel exists and that is a reality. 0.95
00:45:52.000 Rabbi, I agree with you.
00:45:54.000 I think colonization was a moral good for the planet.
00:45:57.000 So I don't consider it to be a pejorative.
00:46:00.000 We're going to talk about how they connect decolonization with it's really de-civilization.
00:46:06.000 They want to get rid of common law.
00:46:08.000 They want to get rid of charity, respect for the poor, independent judiciary, due process.
00:46:13.000 Rabbi, I really enjoyed having you on.
00:46:15.000 I'd like to have you on again soon.
00:46:17.000 I wish it would be under better circumstances.
00:46:19.000 I'm praying for Israel.
00:46:20.000 And I pray that the bloodshed can be limited and that some form of justice can be served while innocents on both sides don't have to die unnecessarily.
00:46:30.000 Rabbi, thank you so much.
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00:47:31.000 Joining us now is Will Scharf, who's running for Attorney General in Missouri.
00:47:36.000 Will has my support and my backing.
00:47:38.000 Will, good to see you.
00:47:40.000 Wish it was under better circumstances.
00:47:42.000 What's happening in Israel now is the most Jews killed in one day since the Holocaust.
00:47:48.000 That's what President Herzog has to say.
00:47:51.000 Will, you know the situation pretty well.
00:47:53.000 You know the region.
00:47:54.000 Explain to me how you think it's possible that it takes six hours for the IDF to come help and how this border was penetrated.
00:48:02.000 I have not heard anybody answer that question with satisfactory in a satisfactory way.
00:48:08.000 Will, your reaction, your response to this tragedy.
00:48:12.000 Yeah, and as you know, Charlie, I'm an American Jew.
00:48:15.000 I have family in Israel.
00:48:16.000 I have cousins who have already been called up to reserve duty.
00:48:20.000 And I hope that all of your viewers and listeners keep the state of Israel, the people of Israel, and their thoughts and prayers.
00:48:28.000 As was the case with the Yom Kippur War 50 years ago, Hamas attacked on one of the holiest days of the Jewish calendar.
00:48:36.000 My suspicion is that the border, the entire border with Gaza was, as a result, more thinly manned than usual.
00:48:45.000 This was a massive attack, thousands and thousands of rockets fired, followed by thousands of terrorists attacking the border at once.
00:48:55.000 I think the IDF was caught flat-footed.
00:48:57.000 It seems like Israeli intelligence had probably the greatest failure here in the history of the state of Israel.
00:49:04.000 It's pretty stunning.
00:49:06.000 Obviously, I think that there's going to be a reckoning in the days ahead.
00:49:10.000 I think Israel is on a full war footing. 0.57
00:49:14.000 And I think there's going to be real payback in terms of the attack that are coming against Hamas.
00:49:21.000 I hope that they uproot Hamas, totally destroy it as a force, and maybe then we can actually have peace in the Middle East.
00:49:28.000 I think it's also worth noting that the Biden administration over the last four years has been flooding the Iranian regime with billions and billions of American dollars, has taken a soft stance on sanctions.
00:49:41.000 All of the good work President Trump did deterring the Iranians from funding and supporting terrorism throughout the region is now for naught because of weakness in the American administration.
00:49:52.000 I think that's a key piece of this story as well.
00:49:56.000 So, Will, I want to focus on one part of this.
00:49:59.000 So, the American response has been the government, whatever, I'm talking about the grassroots, has been reprehensible, what I've seen in the streets.
00:50:09.000 So, we see 30 organizers at Harvard University saying that they support Palestine 100%.
00:50:18.000 Then you have like BLM activists saying something very similar.
00:50:21.000 And now, in academic circles, you're starting to see this phrase over and over again: decolonization, decolonization, decolonization.
00:50:31.000 Will walk our audience through intersectionality.
00:50:35.000 How all of a sudden a BLM activist or somebody fighting for queer rights or whatever has changes their costume and they show up on Sunday with a Palestinian flag.
00:50:48.000 How does that work?
00:50:49.000 And how is this?
00:50:52.000 What is the academic reason for intersectionality and the threat it poses to America?
00:50:59.000 So, on the woke left, there's this idea that all oppression essentially stems from Western civilization, from Western institutions, and Western governance structure.
00:51:12.000 So if you adopt that view, if you adopt the view that people all over the world are being oppressed by the same network of organizations, which we would call Western civilization, America and its allies, American institutions, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, liberalism, small L liberalism.
00:51:31.000 If you adopt that view, then it's like if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
00:51:38.000 But it's insane.
00:51:40.000 I mean, the same LGBT activists who, if they showed up in Gaza, would probably be tossed off the top of a building are out in the street chilling for Hamas. 0.77
00:51:49.000 The fact that we have Americans all over this country demonstrating in favor of one of the most vicious terrorist groups in the world is shameful.
00:51:58.000 And I think Americans need to understand what's going on here.
00:52:04.000 We have the leftist movement in America has been totally hijacked by the craziest, by the most violent radicals in the world.
00:52:12.000 And we have congressmen, my own congresswoman, Corey Bush, who's one of the absolute worst members of the squad. 0.99
00:52:19.000 I mean, she's out there essentially shilling for Hamas right now. 1.00
00:52:22.000 It's absolutely shameful.
00:52:24.000 We need to be open-eyed about what it is, and we need to call out and condemn it at every opportunity.
00:52:29.000 You said it perfectly.
00:52:31.000 This comes from a series of academic papers and now a whole school of thought that the West is the problem for all of our problems, is the reason for all of our problems, right?
00:52:41.000 Homophobia, colonialism, misogyny, all that sort of stuff.
00:52:45.000 And they loop it all together and they say we are all allies in this fight for justice.
00:52:52.000 Rashida Talib this weekend, Congresswoman Rashida Talib, blamed Israel for the violence and accused Israel of apartheid.
00:53:02.000 So Will, for those in the audience that are not as read into all the complexities of what's happening in Israel, talk a little bit about the history and respond to now this new narrative.
00:53:15.000 Because Will, I'll be honest, even in some of the Instagram comments I'm getting, people that they say, Charlie, I usually love you, but this pro-Israel stuff, Israel is an apartheid state and they're committing genocide.
00:53:26.000 So walk us through this, Will, because there's a lot of people that have been told to hate Israel and they haven't really thought deeply about the topic.
00:53:33.000 Sure.
00:53:33.000 So in 1947, the United Nations attempted to partition an area of the world that was at the time controlled by the British Empire into a Jewish state and an Arab state.
00:53:45.000 The Jews accepted it and declared the state of Israel.
00:53:48.000 The Arabs invaded and attempted to destroy the state of Israel and drive the Jews into the ocean. 0.87
00:53:54.000 In the 1948 war, Israel won.
00:53:57.000 Israel maintained its independence.
00:53:58.000 In 1967, the surrounding Arab nations again got together and tried to drive Israel into the sea, kill every Jew in the area. 0.96
00:54:08.000 Again, the Israelis won and thereby expanded their territory. 0.85
00:54:12.000 But what we've seen is this constant narrative that Israel is somehow an illegitimate state.
00:54:17.000 You said that Israel is an apartheid state. 1.00
00:54:19.000 It's absolute garbage. 1.00
00:54:20.000 Israeli Arabs, Israeli Arab citizens have more rights in Israel than Arabs do in any Arab governed state in the world. 1.00
00:54:29.000 Israel has Arab members of the Knesset.
00:54:31.000 They've had Arab members of the Israeli Supreme Court.
00:54:34.000 Israel, in terms of rights, in terms of the Western conception of a society governed by right, by the law, Israel is far and away the most advanced, the most liberal state in the Middle East, small ill liberal, of course.
00:54:50.000 But it's a totally false narrative.
00:54:53.000 What we have right now is a number of terrorists.
00:54:56.000 Hamas is a terrorist organization internationally recognized, a number of terrorists who are holding the entire region hostage.
00:55:04.000 They're being funded and abetted by the Iranians, one of our greatest foes in the world. 1.00
00:55:08.000 Americans need to understand that, you know, this may start with Israel, but it's going to come to us as well.
00:55:14.000 Americans were killed in the attack the other day.
00:55:17.000 Americans are currently being held hostage in Gaza.
00:55:20.000 We need to understand which side we're on here.
00:55:22.000 And I promise you, we are not on the terrorist side, and they are not on our side.
00:55:27.000 The savagery and the barbarism is hard to even grasp.
00:55:33.000 And thank you for going through all that, Will, because the amount of antagonism and nastiness that is thrown at Israel is quite remarkable. 0.97
00:55:44.000 And it's from people that you otherwise would be like, why are you so focused on Israel?
00:55:49.000 Will, what is your answer to why the UN and all these international organizations are so focused on this relatively small country, the size of New Jersey, right?
00:56:01.000 With half the world's Jewry. 1.00
00:56:03.000 They're fixated.
00:56:04.000 They're obsessed.
00:56:06.000 And you think about this, you know, Hamas or Gaza or Jordan.
00:56:10.000 You have, what, 50-plus Arab-dominated countries, the Middle East, and the Jews want one little sliver. 1.00
00:56:17.000 What is it about Israel that gets the Muslims, the globalists, the internationalists so fired up? 0.97
00:56:24.000 Yeah, I mean, look, I think a piece of it is anti-Semitism, but I think it goes beyond that.
00:56:29.000 As you said, you have a ton of Arab countries who historically have always rather, you know, they've always wanted to be able to distract their people with this conflict against Israel as opposed to dealing with the very real issues in their own societies and their own cultures.
00:56:45.000 What we saw under President Trump with the Abraham Accords was a fundamental rejection of that premise.
00:56:51.000 It was the greatest sort of ray of hope for Middle Eastern peace in generations.
00:56:55.000 Unfortunately, we've seen a lot of that unwind in the last few years under Joe Biden.
00:57:01.000 But when you look at the UN, when you look at these international organizations, they'd much rather beat up on Israel rather than talk about the fact that China has millions of Uyghurs in concentration camp. 0.93
00:57:13.000 They'd much rather talk about Israel than about human rights abuses in any number of other countries around the world.
00:57:20.000 Because as you said, Israel is a small country.
00:57:24.000 It's an easy figure to beat up on.
00:57:26.000 But you're right.
00:57:27.000 I mean, Israel probably shouldn't get the attention that it does from these sorts of international organizations.
00:57:33.000 I think a piece of it is anti-Semitism.
00:57:35.000 And I think a piece of it is that Israel is a convenient whipping boy if you don't want to address the very real issues around human rights, around democracy, around rights-respecting government around the world.
00:57:47.000 I do want to try to get to your story about the Trump indictment, but all the energy right now is about Israel and how this could turn into a regional conflict.
00:57:55.000 And I have yet to be satisfied by any answer.
00:58:00.000 And I've been looking around how on earth Hamas was able to penetrate that border.
00:58:07.000 I'm not a military expert, but I just look at this and I say, wait a second, before you guys invade Gaza, can you figure out the intelligence failure?
00:58:14.000 Because maybe you have more intelligence failures and more traitors in the midst.
00:58:18.000 Maybe they have some traitors in Mossad.
00:58:20.000 Who knows?
00:58:22.000 It is really unbelievable.
00:58:23.000 Add more detail about Iran's role and Joe Biden funding Iran.
00:58:28.000 So Iran funds any number of terrorist groups all over the Middle East.
00:58:33.000 With respect to Israel, the two key players are obviously Hamas, which controls the Gaza script, and then Hezbollah, which controls much of the country of Lebanon.
00:58:43.000 Iran has been a prime actor in this region for a long time through what's called the IRGC, which is a component of the Iranian military, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps.
00:58:55.000 That's sort of their key entity for exporting terrorism around the region. 0.64
00:59:00.000 What we know now is that IRGC officers, Iranian officers, were actively meeting with Hamas and Hezbollah operatives and leaders in Lebanon within the last month or two.
00:59:13.000 Iran is a principal source of both funding and weapons for Hamas.
00:59:18.000 It's tough to see how Iran did not have a role in these attacks. 0.99
00:59:23.000 So far, what we've heard is denials that Iran had a direct role.
00:59:28.000 But certainly in terms of financing and arming Hamas, Iran is the key player behind this sort of activity and needs to be held accountable. 0.80
00:59:37.000 You may remember when Donald Trump was president, the head of the IRDC was a general named Qasem Soleimani.
00:59:46.000 After the IRGC started attacking American-occupied military bases in Iraq, Trump had Soleimani killed in a drone strike.
00:59:55.000 That was the sort of approach we took to Iranian exporting of terrorism in the region under President Trump.
01:00:02.000 Unfortunately, under President Biden, as I said before, we've seen now, I think, close to $10 billion of money shipped to Iran for various purposes in the, I think, the misbegotten hope of resurrecting the Iran nuclear deal.
01:00:17.000 But Iran is ultimately behind this. 0.86
01:00:19.000 I believe Iran is ultimately responsible. 1.00
01:00:22.000 And I believe Iran has American blood on its hands here. 0.93
01:00:24.000 I think it's time they were held accountable.
01:00:27.000 Talk also, Will, in closing here, how this probably undermined peace efforts between Saudi Arabia and Israel.
01:00:34.000 And then also, Will, talk about how, you know, some people in our audience say, Charlie, how does this impact us as Americans?
01:00:40.000 Well, through many ways, but not to mention there are Americans currently being held hostage right now.
01:00:45.000 Nine Americans were killed.
01:00:46.000 And if you have a passport, if you're an American passport holder, that needs to be a guarantee that we're going to do everything we possibly can to get you out of harm's way. 1.00
01:00:55.000 Answer those two questions, Will, as we summarize all this.
01:00:58.000 Sure.
01:00:58.000 So on the latter point, I mean, America has a lot of interest in Israel.
01:01:03.000 America works closely with Israel on counterterrorism issues and other foreign policy issues.
01:01:09.000 The American defense industry co-develops weapons with Israel.
01:01:13.000 Israeli security is a big part of our engagement with the Middle East.
01:01:18.000 Israel's been an ally to us in the global war on terrorism.
01:01:22.000 And there are a lot of Americans, as you said, that are in Israel.
01:01:25.000 And unfortunately, Americans have been both killed and captured in this fight.
01:01:31.000 You know, in Iran, they refer to Israel as the Little Satan and America as the Great Satan.
01:01:36.000 I promise you, this may have started with Israel, but it does not end with Israel.
01:01:40.000 These are people who wish us ill.
01:01:42.000 I believe one of the easiest ways for us to fight against Iranian terrorism, making it into the homeland here and threatening American interests abroad, is giving Israel the tools they need to deal with Iranian terrorism on their perimeter. 0.97
01:01:58.000 In terms of the Saudi issue, obviously a key goal of American foreign policy in that region for a long time has been the rapprochement between Israel and key Arab powers like Saudi Arabia, like the United Arab Emirates, and like Egypt.
01:02:13.000 I think under President Trump, we made great strides in that respect.
01:02:17.000 Obviously, the Abraham Accords, but also increased security cooperation between Israel and Egypt and Israel and Saudi Arabia.
01:02:25.000 Before these attacks, it appeared that we were on a path towards full normalization of relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia, which would have been a major win for those of us who care about American interests in the Middle East.
01:02:39.000 Unfortunately, these attacks may derail that as public pressure on the Saudi government ramps up in the coming days as Israel starts to do what they have to do to guarantee their security.
01:02:50.000 I do think it's important to note, though, that the United Arab Emirates put out a statement supporting Israel, condemning Hamas.
01:02:57.000 It was in many respects a much more positive, aggressive statement than we've seen from many aspects of American society and American congressmen.
01:03:06.000 So I think it's fortunate that at least in some respects, the peace that we've attempted to broker between Israel and our Arab allies in the Middle East over the last decade seems to be holding.
01:03:18.000 And I hope that that continues.
01:03:20.000 Will Scharf, running for Attorney General of Missouri, he's going to make a great one.
01:03:24.000 I'm behind him.
01:03:25.000 Will, we'll get you back on about the other Trump news, but this was definitely very helpful.
01:03:29.000 Thank you so much, Will.
01:03:30.000 Thanks a lot, Charlie.
01:03:31.000 Appreciate it.
01:03:32.000 It is civilization versus barbary.
01:03:34.000 That's where we're at.
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