The Charlie Kirk Show - It's Election Day! Watching the Races that Matter

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00:00:48.000 Buckle up, everybody.

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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:11.000 It's election day, so here we are starting the day out.

00:01:15.000 We're also going to be finishing the evening out with live updates.

00:01:19.000 We're going to be streaming this evening, so check us out on all the Charlie Kirk show platforms and socials, and we'll make sure you have access to that.

00:01:27.000 Of course, we're going to have our star-studded team, our election day team, in it.

00:01:32.000 And Blake, in honor of Charlie Kirk, and those of us gathered around this table right now understand that Charlie loved election night streams, and you, the audience, tuned in by the droves to hear Charlie do it.

00:01:45.000 So we're going to honor Charlie.

00:01:47.000 We're going to remember him, honor his legacy, and we're going to be right here again tonight.

00:01:52.000 So set your clocks.

00:01:54.000 We're going to start at 7.30 Eastern, correct?

00:01:56.000 That's when we're starting the stream, 7.30 Eastern?

00:01:59.000 I think maybe 6.30 Eastern.

00:02:00.000 Oh, you know, that's the mountain time.

00:02:03.000 Yeah, 6.30 Eastern.

00:02:04.000 I apologize.

00:02:06.000 So glad I did that.

00:02:07.000 Jack Pesobic, Human Events Daily host, joining us today.

00:02:09.000 He's in town this week, as well as Blake Neff back from assignment.

00:02:13.000 Always good to have you, buddy.

00:02:14.000 You know, I want to open just before we forget about it.

00:02:17.000 Okay, we're going to be talking about New Jersey.

00:02:19.000 We're going to be talking about Virginia.

00:02:20.000 We're going to be talking about New York.

00:02:21.000 But there are a lot of other places you could be voting if you haven't voted yet.

00:02:24.000 Yes, if you live in Minneapolis, your mayor is up today.

00:02:27.000 You've got gross Jacob Fry, but he's running against Omar Fateh, the kind of Somali goblin-looking guy that's voting that. 1.00

00:02:36.000 California, we have Prop 50, is it?

00:02:38.000 Prop 50.

00:02:39.000 To gerrymander the state.

00:02:40.000 You could vote in that if you're one of our many California people.

00:02:43.000 All of you guys were always begging, Charlie, get more involved in California.

00:02:47.000 That is a race you guys could make a difference in.

00:02:50.000 And by the way, Pennsylvania Supreme Court.

00:02:50.000 Such a good point.

00:02:52.000 Pennsylvania Supreme Court.

00:02:53.000 Listen, this show has a huge audience in a lot of different parts of the country.

00:02:58.000 But actually, weirdly enough, the California, it's partly just because there's so many people in California, but we also have great radio spread in California.

00:03:06.000 We have a huge audience, California.

00:03:08.000 And so to your point, Blake, Prop 50, is it yes or no, Blake?

00:03:14.000 Oh, man, I can't remember.

00:03:15.000 I think it's vote no.

00:03:17.000 I'm going to give you the answer.

00:03:18.000 I didn't mean to put you on the spot.

00:03:19.000 Vote no on Prop 50.

00:03:22.000 There's been a, I mean, this is basically to reverse a referendum vote where the state of California.

00:03:27.000 By the way, you know what's hilarious about this Prop 50 thing is that they set up an independent commission.

00:03:32.000 Arnold Schwarzenegger, of all people, has been out loud and proud on this, saying vote no.

00:03:37.000 And I appreciate his efforts.

00:03:39.000 You know, whatever past disagreements we might have, he's right on this.

00:03:45.000 And, you know, even the Independent Commission has been radically corrupted because remember, you get mostly Democrats that are on the Independent Commission.

00:03:54.000 So it's better than Prop 50, but even the Independent Commission could use a lot of work.

00:03:59.000 That's the bottom line in a state like California.

00:04:02.000 But, Jack, let's turn our sights to the east.

00:04:05.000 Okay, so we've got the three, four biggest areas of focus is going to be Chittarelli and New Jersey.

00:04:14.000 So, vote for Chitterelli.

00:04:16.000 We've got Virginia, we've got Winsom Sears, and then we got a AG race, which is actually probably the closer of the two.

00:04:25.000 So, if you're thinking Winsom Sears can't win and that's not, it's not worth going out, put those thoughts aside.

00:04:31.000 You need to put those thoughts aside because here's the deal: everybody needs to get out, pull the trigger for Winsom Sears.

00:04:38.000 That's probably the worst analogy I could use in that race, but you need to vote for Winsom.

00:04:43.000 You need to get out and vote for Winsom.

00:04:45.000 And then we also need to get the AG race over the top, and that one really has a chance big time.

00:04:52.000 I would say, I don't know where the prediction markets are, but we need everybody in Virginia to think positive thoughts, get out to the polls, and make sure that the top cop in that state does not end up being Jay Jones, who is a real problem, who has fantasized and fetishized the murder of his political opponents as well as their children.

00:05:14.000 This cannot be.

00:05:15.000 So, Jay Jones must be defeated, must be defeated soundly.

00:05:18.000 The good people of Virginia get out to the polls.

00:05:20.000 So, we've got New Jersey, Chitterelli. 0.51

00:05:22.000 We've got Virginia.

00:05:23.000 We've got Momdani versus Cuomo.

00:05:25.000 There's been some big moves in that race.

00:05:29.000 Jack, there is some, I would say, movement in the fact that Elon Musk has come out and endorsed Cuomo.

00:05:38.000 President Trump has come out and endorsed Cuomo.

00:05:41.000 Now, Zoron is saying, this is a reason to vote for me, of course, which is exactly what you'd expect him to do.

00:05:46.000 Do we see any signs of life for the Cuomo camp?

00:05:50.000 I mean, because there's different areas of thought here.

00:05:53.000 There's different schools of thought saying that Zoron's outpaced and we just can't catch up with him.

00:05:57.000 Or are we seeing this race tighten?

00:06:00.000 Well, before I answer, and we are seeing some signs of that, but there is one thing that I do want to say: is that for all the people who will be voting today and all the people who need to be voting, there is one person who will not be voting today.

00:06:14.000 And there is a person who voted every single election, but this for the first time, I think, I guess since he turned 18, who will not be voting today for the first election.

00:06:22.000 And his name is Charlie Kirk.

00:06:24.000 Charlie will not be voting today.

00:06:26.000 Charlie should be sitting right here today, covering down on the election day coverage today and then all night on the Super Stream, which was, and we all know this, it was his favorite night of the year was election night.

00:06:37.000 He absolutely loved doing this.

00:06:39.000 That's why we're going to keep the tradition going and be here.

00:06:42.000 Tyler will be here as well.

00:06:44.000 But Charlie Kirk will not be voting tonight.

00:06:47.000 And Charlie Kirk will not be hosting tonight.

00:06:49.000 And we know why.

00:06:50.000 Because a violent leftist stole that right from him.

00:06:54.000 A violent leftist stole that right to vote, his right to freedom of speech, his right to everything.

00:07:00.000 And so for everybody out there, go out and vote today and do it for Charlie.

00:07:05.000 Amen.

00:07:06.000 Do it for Charlie.

00:07:07.000 And by the way, I'd be remiss if we didn't mention the vote against retention.

00:07:13.000 Pennsylvania.

00:07:14.000 Yeah, so it's no, no, no.

00:07:15.000 So the way these races are, it's no, no, no. 1.00

00:07:17.000 So Pennsylvania, you've got, and you've got a race. 0.90

00:07:19.000 Look, everyone's got an election.

00:07:20.000 Go out and vote today.

00:07:21.000 Obviously, the races are close there.

00:07:23.000 You mentioned the AG race.

00:07:24.000 I pulled that up on the prediction markets.

00:07:26.000 And believe it or not, about a couple of, it looked like yesterday, the race really tightened up.

00:07:33.000 Just as of last night, it tightened up from like, you know, so suddenly the Republican Jason Miari's flew, I'm looking on Calci.

00:07:41.000 He dropped way down to almost 50%.

00:07:44.000 And it looked like the Democrat Jay Jones was ticking up to above 50% at one point.

00:07:49.000 This is the prediction markets on Calci, right?

00:07:51.000 And then, but now all of a sudden today, as of 11 a.m. East Coast time, and I guess it's noon East Coast time, that suddenly now Jason Miara's is pulling away with it.

00:08:03.000 He's now back up to about 57%.

00:08:06.000 So there was this strange tightening and now, you know, a diving out.

00:08:10.000 On the New York race, which is the one you asked me about, and I'm not going to be one of those guys who doesn't answer questions.

00:08:15.000 We saw some really interesting data out of Calci, and I got this from New Jersey as well.

00:08:19.000 That even though it looked as though Mandami is running away with it, if you break it down to Calci traders who have come in from New York only.

00:08:28.000 So if you parse out the data and say, okay, everyone who's outside of New York City, we're going to take that out.

00:08:34.000 Suddenly, Cuomo's up nine points.

00:08:36.000 Well, and I want to say this too, and I know we, that's a really interesting.

00:08:40.000 So insiders inside the city are actually more bullish on Cuomo.

00:08:45.000 And we have seen, we saw that poll from Atlas that came that showed that the race was tightening in the final stretch here, that Cuomo was making up some ground.

00:08:54.000 Zoron was not putting his best foot forward.

00:08:56.000 This is something we talked about with Mark Halperin actually last week: that, you know, sort of this grievance politics, the guilting Cuomo about not visiting a mosque or whatever.

00:09:07.000 These were not good looks.

00:09:08.000 Something about Zoron's, his mojo has been off here in the final stretch of this race.

00:09:15.000 And he's looking very, very vulnerable.

00:09:18.000 He's not talking like a winner.

00:09:19.000 He's not talking like somebody.

00:09:20.000 Or contrary to that, the other opinion would be that he is assuming that he's going to win and the mask is fully off.

00:09:27.000 But regardless, Atlas has the race very much within striking distance, which is, which is, you know, listen, if we could get one miracle today, well, listen, I'll take all three.

00:09:38.000 But I want to leave you guys with this.

00:09:40.000 Regardless of what happens today, we are playing offense on their turf.

00:09:44.000 Think about this.

00:09:45.000 Virginia basically was thought to be a blue state, then Glenn Young took it back.

00:09:50.000 But, you know, we kind of knew that that was a Glenn Young was an exceptional candidate and he took it back, made the state a little bit more red for a time, right?

00:09:58.000 So that's basically a blue state.

00:10:00.000 We're playing offense in that state.

00:10:01.000 New Jersey, blue state.

00:10:02.000 Chittarelli could really win that race today.

00:10:04.000 Chitterelli could really win the New York or the New Jersey governor's race.

00:10:09.000 If Republicans turn out.

00:10:10.000 Yeah, if Republicans turn out.

00:10:11.000 And Pennsylvania, we could stop the communist takeover of that state as well from a judicial standpoint.

00:10:18.000 So we are playing offense on their turf.

00:10:20.000 So look, look alive.

00:10:22.000 Be encouraged.

00:10:23.000 There's reason for hope here.

00:10:25.000 And we need to stay on it.

00:10:29.000 Hey, everybody, Andrew Colvett, executive producer of the Charlie Kirk Show.

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00:11:31.000 This morning we woke up here in mountain time.

00:11:35.000 So two hours off of East Coast.

00:11:37.000 I'm going to get this right.

00:11:38.000 We just switched actually in Arizona.

00:11:40.000 Arizona didn't switch.

00:11:41.000 The rest of the world did.

00:11:42.000 That's how it works.

00:11:43.000 So we're getting our time zones sorted here.

00:11:46.000 But there were bomb threats in it looks like seven different counties in New Jersey.

00:11:52.000 And what's hilarious about this is that you have Zorhan Mamdani claiming that this would be the work of Trump.

00:11:58.000 And we'll explain why that doesn't make any sense at all in just a second.

00:12:01.000 Let's go ahead and play 159.

00:12:03.000 Incredibly concerning.

00:12:04.000 And I think that it is an illustration of the attacks we're seeing in our democracy.

00:12:10.000 Sometimes they're blatant and explicit in the manner of these bomb threats.

00:12:13.000 And we have to understand this as part of the general approach the Trump administration has taken to trying to intimidate voters.

00:12:21.000 So he says we have to understand this as part of the approach that the Trump administration has taken to try and intimidate voters.

00:12:28.000 So Jack, riddle me this.

00:12:30.000 Are more conservatives or Democrats voting on Election Day?

00:12:35.000 It is typically more conservative.

00:12:37.000 So it's going to be your Republicans and then it's going to be your conservative independents.

00:12:42.000 So does it make any sense then that Trump would be responsible somehow for bomb threats on Election Day in New Jersey?

00:12:49.000 No.

00:12:50.000 And what you're seeing here is, of course, the guy who is the leading candidate to be the next mayor of New York City, immediately when given the opportunity, what does he do?

00:12:58.000 He attacks and demonizes his political opponents.

00:13:01.000 This is the same thing that we saw Jimmy Kimmel do, by the way, in the wake of Charlie Kirk's murder.

00:13:06.000 He immediately said that it was a MAGA guy who did this.

00:13:10.000 And so what are we seeing again from, and again, we were told, oh, the left doesn't do this.

00:13:15.000 The left doesn't demonize.

00:13:16.000 We need to unite.

00:13:17.000 We need to do all of it.

00:13:18.000 Well, here you go.

00:13:19.000 This guy, by the way, he is going to be, and if he wins, by the way, and I'm going to throw down the marker right now, if he wins the New York City's mayor race, he will be the Democrat frontrunner for 2028 for the presidential election.

00:13:34.000 I agree.

00:13:35.000 And immediately, immediately, what's he do?

00:13:37.000 He demonizes his opponents and blames his opponents for political violence.

00:13:41.000 When we don't have any facts whatsoever right now, we do know that there's been a lot of political violence lately done by the political left.

00:13:48.000 We could ask Charlie about that, but of course he's not here to join us and be able to have that discussion because of the political left.

00:13:55.000 And so, by the way, we got these great, we got these great stickers, and I think we have this clip from, where is it?

00:14:04.000 If you guys are going to pull it up, it's, oh, it's just a picture, 167 that we have up.

00:14:10.000 And people are posting these up across New Jersey right now.

00:14:13.000 I voted to honor Charlie Kirk.

00:14:15.000 And in fact, because I was in New Jersey, I have a bunch of them right here.

00:14:19.000 So I voted to honor Charlie Kirk.

00:14:19.000 That's amazing.

00:14:22.000 And I have a couple.

00:14:24.000 Don't use them yet.

00:14:25.000 If you could zoom in here, these are phenomenal.

00:14:28.000 Yeah, I love that.

00:14:29.000 And we should vote to honor Charlie.

00:14:31.000 Charlie would be right here today saying vote, Blake, do you agree with what Jack just said?

00:14:39.000 That if Zoron wins today, especially if he wins handily in New York City, does he become the de facto frontrunner in the Democrat presidential race?

00:14:49.000 Nah, he's, I think this is, truthfully, I think this is one of those things where it's a person on the left that, if anything, the right fixates on more than the left does.

00:15:01.000 I think he's going to be a, especially because I don't think he'll be a very successful mayor of New York City.

00:15:07.000 I think people do emphasize, they say he's going to make it way more dangerous.

00:15:10.000 He very well might.

00:15:10.000 He might.

00:15:11.000 But I think he's much more likely to just ruin the economy of New York.

00:15:14.000 It's far easier for the left to just like absolutely wreck.

00:15:17.000 Yeah, but you can't say a guy who wins a massive upset like that doesn't get put into the contention for the Democrats for 2022.

00:15:25.000 He could, but I mean, Bill de Blasio went nowhere.

00:15:30.000 Bloomberg went nowhere.

00:15:31.000 And he had a Bloomberg ran for president.

00:15:33.000 But he had unlimited money to do it.

00:15:37.000 And he's still completely flawed.

00:15:39.000 But Bloomberg was not a populist.

00:15:42.000 I'm talking about the specific brand of left-wing Marxist populism that Mondani is embracing.

00:15:48.000 It's anti-white. 0.76

00:15:49.000 It's anti-Christian. 0.90

00:15:50.000 He knows exactly what he's doing.

00:15:52.000 It's obviously anti-Trump.

00:15:53.000 It's anti-it's sort of like he is the anti-Charlie Kirk because I was thinking about how Mamdani and Charlie were kind of about.

00:16:00.000 Wait, also, he can't run, right?

00:16:02.000 That is.

00:16:03.000 He's a foreigner. 1.00

00:16:04.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:16:04.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:16:05.000 Well, you watch.

00:16:06.000 They're going to try to charge.

00:16:07.000 They might.

00:16:07.000 People talked about that.

00:16:09.000 That is a really good point, actually.

00:16:11.000 He is actually.

00:16:12.000 Everyone in the world is an American citizen.

00:16:14.000 That's why they're going to be able to do that.

00:16:14.000 Well, did you know that Turon is more American and more patriotic than native-born Americans?

00:16:20.000 That's the word that's going to be.

00:16:20.000 That's what I'm told.

00:16:21.000 That's actually, thank goodness for that little provision in that.

00:16:26.000 And the founders put it there for a reason.

00:16:28.000 It's almost like they had an idea that if you were born in America, you're going to be more loyal to America than if you weren't born in America.

00:16:33.000 Wait, so loyalty matters?

00:16:36.000 I don't want you to get too ahead of yourself.

00:16:38.000 Okay, so listen, I want to go back.

00:16:40.000 We're going to have Rich Barris on later at the start of hour two.

00:16:44.000 But one of the things we talked about with Rich is this focus on domestic issues.

00:16:47.000 And you see this candidly, messaging discipline has been better from the Democrats talking about costs, health care, things like that.

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00:18:00.000 Dr. Oz, can you hear me?

00:18:01.000 Are you seated?

00:18:02.000 You ready?

00:18:03.000 Seated, ready in my office actually in Washington.

00:18:06.000 Anxious to see what you're going to see about the election.

00:18:09.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:18:09.000 Well, this has been a really, it's an honor to have you on.

00:18:13.000 I know you came on the Charlie Kirk show multiple times with Charlie, both when you were running for Senate and then later on as you've been part of the admin.

00:18:21.000 Charlie would be here.

00:18:22.000 Unfortunately, if you can get the wide shot, we have his open chair here.

00:18:25.000 Jack just did a beautiful tribute to Charlie that Charlie would be begging everybody across the country to vote, in New Jersey, in Pennsylvania, in Virginia, in New York City.

00:18:39.000 And unfortunately, he's not here today.

00:18:41.000 So, sir, the floor is yours.

00:18:42.000 I know you had a personal friendship with Charlie.

00:18:44.000 You texted often.

00:18:45.000 And I just want to give you the opportunity to remember him in your own words.

00:18:49.000 Well, kudos to you for carrying on the legacy.

00:18:52.000 I spent a lot of time with Charlie.

00:18:53.000 He was very helpful.

00:18:54.000 We got to know him quite well during the campaign.

00:18:58.000 But we also stayed, I saw him the last time here in Washington in June.

00:19:01.000 We were going to do a show.

00:19:04.000 We were at a meal together, and the bombing of Iran happened.

00:19:08.000 So we said, well, you know, we'll do it in September.

00:19:10.000 And it speaks to the unfortunate reality that life is so unpredictable.

00:19:14.000 I'm not going to take everyone through the trauma of that whole experience.

00:19:19.000 Obviously, I joined the president when we flew out to the event in Phoenix, which was a top memorable moment in my life.

00:19:26.000 And I've had lots of interesting experiences.

00:19:29.000 But I think it speaks to the power that Charlie and the whole movement has had in waking people up to some of the dishonest narratives that we've been tricked with.

00:19:38.000 But it sort of goes back, I think, very fundamentally to respecting some of those Judeo-Christian traditions that so often have guided us into successful relationships, raising wonderful families, living in communities that are functional.

00:19:52.000 And when we don't honor some of those basic principles, we run into trouble.

00:19:55.000 And on this election day, one of the many things that's being evaluated is this government shutdown.

00:20:02.000 And I thought I'd use this maybe as a jumping point to speak to those very values that Charlie and you and others would speak to.

00:20:08.000 We are a nation that treasures work.

00:20:12.000 We believe in our country that business is good and you want to work in business and you want to do good things for your community through those businesses and build value in society and do things that fix problems.

00:20:23.000 All the things that many of us grew up, I think, believing was incumbent to our opportunity as Americans.

00:20:33.000 And many people came from other parts of the world because they know and found out that America actually still does those things that their country stopped doing, like go to work, play a role in improving society, have agency over your own life because it matters.

00:20:47.000 God put you here to do something.

00:20:49.000 And whatever that thing is, go out and do it.

00:20:51.000 So when we faced, as we came into the administration, a reality that Medicaid was basically insolvent because of some of the things that have been done during the pandemic, but some of the predated the pandemic as well, we had generated a system that just was not going to be functional for much longer that would put our most vulnerable at risk.

00:21:13.000 I'm sitting in the Humphrey building in Washington, right across from the Capitol.

00:21:16.000 As you walk into our building, there's a quote from Hubert Humphrey.

00:21:20.000 And it says it's the, he uses light as a metaphor.

00:21:24.000 It is the moral obligation of government, he says, it's the moral obligation of all of us, to take care of those at the dawn of life, children, those at the twilight of life, the seniors, and those who are living in the shadows.

00:21:36.000 Now, again, that haunting metaphor is powerful.

00:21:38.000 It feels almost biblical.

00:21:40.000 So if you're going to protect our most vulnerable, you can't allow fraud, waste, and abuse to strip it of its vitality.

00:21:47.000 So the president very directly told me to preserve, for example, Medicare, don't touch Medicare, don't hurt the folks who are vulnerable on Medicaid, but take the fraud, waste, and abuse out of the system.

00:21:58.000 We have been doing that, and we're going to continue to do that.

00:22:01.000 And the Democrats have shut down Washington.

00:22:03.000 They shut the government down because they believe that the one big, beautiful bill, which codified many of the things that make sense to clean up Medicaid and protect it for the most vulnerable, were wrong.

00:22:12.000 They want to, for example, allow illegal immigrants to continue to get funded for their health care benefits.

00:22:18.000 This fundamentally changes the equation.

00:22:20.000 Democrats don't like there's a work requirement.

00:22:23.000 But we tell people, fine, if you're in a difficult spot, we'll pay for your health care.

00:22:27.000 But you need to actually try to get a job.

00:22:29.000 And if you can't get a job, go volunteer somewhere.

00:22:31.000 Go take care of somebody.

00:22:32.000 Go get an education.

00:22:33.000 Do something to reinforce what you should know deep down inside, which is God's got a plan for you and go act on it.

00:22:40.000 And these are fundamental differences in how folks are seeing the future of this country.

00:22:45.000 I believe because work is so fundamental to who we are, that we should have a work requirement.

00:22:49.000 I believe that if you're an American citizen, you should get support for your health care.

00:22:53.000 But illegal immigrants coming here and induced to stay here because they're given free health care, that should not be part of the equation. 1.00

00:23:01.000 Certainly, the federal government should not be paying for that.

00:23:04.000 And we know, for example, and just not to get into too much of the weeds here, that there are some states, there's six in the country, six out of 50 states, allow separate money to be paid to illegal immigrant health care from their state budgets.

00:23:16.000 They claim.

00:23:17.000 They claim.

00:23:18.000 And of course, that allows them to recruit and retain illegal immigrants, despite what federal law is around coming across borders illegally. 0.61

00:23:25.000 And they think that's okay.

00:23:27.000 And now we are just identifying, breaking news, I'll share it with you, that we believe is over a billion dollars that has been taken from federal tax money to support these programs.

00:23:37.000 In fact, they're starting to pay us back, so I'm pretty sure we're right.

00:23:40.000 Wow.

00:23:41.000 Well, that's breaking news.

00:23:43.000 So a billion dollars you've identified that's basically fraud.

00:23:47.000 It's basically fraud that the states are using improperly.

00:23:50.000 So I wanted to play a clip for you, and I do think it's election-related because, you know, there is some polling out there that would indicate that the American people want to focus more on domestic issues, more on cost, health care, things like that, as opposed to foreign issues, foreign policy.

00:24:05.000 And I certainly share that belief.

00:24:07.000 But one of the reasons that I think this resonates is because Democrats' messaging, and I hate to say it, but I think it's been a little bit more disciplined in this, especially this election run-up than some of the Republican counterparts.

00:24:20.000 They are talking about health care.

00:24:21.000 And I wanted to play this clip for you from Rachel Maddow.

00:24:24.000 And it's in relation to the government shutdown where she's basically saying, well, if you strip these subsidies out of Obamacare, the ACA, then all these costs are going to go up for Americans, right?

00:24:35.000 Now, Republicans have been warning about these subsidies for years that they're going to make Medicaid and Medicare insolvent in the long run.

00:24:42.000 But I want you to give you a chance to respond to this and debunk this.

00:24:46.000 137.

00:24:47.000 Look at these numbers from the New York Times tonight.

00:24:51.000 Based on the newly posted information, meaning the pricing information that's now being posted in multiple states, a family of four making $130,000 in Maine.

00:25:02.000 So you combine the family's income, everybody's salaries, you got up to $130,000, that family would face an increase in their annual health insurance premiums next year of $16,100.

00:25:16.000 That's how much their health insurance premiums would go up.

00:25:20.000 This is what Democrats have been drawing the line about in this shutdown, telling Republicans that this is the thing they need to fix.

00:25:27.000 Dr. Oz, this is your world.

00:25:31.000 Respond to Rachel Maddow, because that clip on Facebook, by the way, had like 100,000 likes.

00:25:37.000 So a lot of people are seeing it.

00:25:39.000 So President Obama, who created the Affordable Care Act, right?

00:25:43.000 It's called Obamacare.

00:25:45.000 When he pushed through Congress in a very partisan way the Affordable Care Act, there was funding for people who are at the poverty level.

00:25:54.000 The question then becomes, how do you define the poverty level?

00:25:56.000 Well, they defined it as four times more than poverty.

00:26:00.000 So if poverty level lets us make a number up, is $16,000.

00:26:04.000 Make it the math simple, make it $20,000 the poverty level, then four times that for an individual, $80,000, is how much they were willing to cover.

00:26:12.000 They weren't going to cover five, six, seven, eight times the poverty level.

00:26:17.000 They just had to pick a number.

00:26:18.000 We all do.

00:26:19.000 So Obamacare did not cover people who are making more than four times the poverty level.

00:26:25.000 And for that reason, when they added these COVID benefits, and they were purely added because we were in a pandemic and a war, and they were added for a very short period of time, and they were set to end when the pandemic ended.

00:26:36.000 Are we out of the pandemic?

00:26:38.000 We're out of the pandemic.

00:26:39.000 Of course.

00:26:39.000 We should not have pandemic era wartime rules when we're at peace.

00:26:43.000 So the Democrats wrote the law.

00:26:45.000 It expires at the end of this year.

00:26:48.000 And so it's their decision.

00:26:49.000 They knew it was supposed to expire.

00:26:51.000 Original Obamacare never covered people making four times Medicare.

00:26:54.000 Rachel Maddow just picked an example of someone who's making, whatever it was, $150,000 a year who was making more than four times Medicare.

00:27:03.000 Therefore, they were not ever eligible for Obamacare.

00:27:07.000 And she's complaining that what was done during COVID as a stopgap measure to deal with the pandemic is now being expiring, so that's a problem for the Republicans.

00:27:16.000 We were even willing, even willing, despite all that, to negotiate and talk about some of these issues, but only if we find a true solution to the fundamental flaws in a broken system.

00:27:27.000 Obamacare pricing has increased so much faster than anyone ever imagined.

00:27:31.000 It is becoming unaffordable even when the government is paying for it.

00:27:34.000 But that's not what the Democrats wanted.

00:27:36.000 They want to hold this hostage.

00:27:37.000 At the last moment, they say, forget about it.

00:27:39.000 If you don't, with a gun to your head, agree to extend all these subsidies and just pay, forget about dealing with the costs.

00:27:45.000 Just pay for it.

00:27:47.000 We're going to hold you up.

00:27:48.000 And the president, very wisely, very bravely, together with congressional leadership, said, no, we are not going to be extorted.

00:27:53.000 You guys caused this problem.

00:27:55.000 It's your issue.

00:27:56.000 We will help you fix it, but don't blame it on us.

00:27:59.000 And yet, Legacy Media, New York Times, a good example.

00:28:02.000 They tell stories that are literally like ASOPS fables without the morality.

00:28:06.000 I think that's really well said.

00:28:07.000 And sitting to my left is Blake Neff, one of our producers here on the show, Dr. Oz.

00:28:12.000 And one of the things you rail about, Blake, and we're running out of time here.

00:28:15.000 I wish I could give you the floor, is that just when you get somebody addicted to a government subsidy, it's really hard to do.

00:28:20.000 It becomes permanent.

00:28:21.000 It becomes permanent.

00:28:22.000 Everything becomes permanent.

00:28:23.000 And that's what we've seen.

00:28:24.000 So the whole narrative that we're trying to strip health care from people.

00:28:27.000 No, this is COVID-era spending that is unsustainable.

00:28:31.000 We have to do something to bring it back.

00:28:33.000 Yeah, we want to make health care more affordable, but this is not the way to bankrupt the country.

00:28:37.000 But if I can just jump in there, because I do think it's critical.

00:28:40.000 What is the average amount of premium that an Obamacare recipient will get next year after all these things that Rachel says are so horrible expire?

00:28:50.000 It's going to be $50.

00:28:52.000 That's it.

00:28:52.000 It's $13 more than this year.

00:28:55.000 That's the whole battle.

00:28:56.000 Literally, the average person is going to be asked to pay $50 for a month for their insurance.

00:29:02.000 You ask me anyone out there working on their own dime getting paid from a commercial insurer.

00:29:06.000 If you would you take an insurance policy for $50 a month, that's $13 more than last year.

00:29:11.000 You'd say, I can handle that.

00:29:12.000 That's a cup of coffee a day.

00:29:14.000 I can manage that.

00:29:15.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that's really well said.

00:29:18.000 I mean, listen, at some point, we have to say no.

00:29:21.000 We have to say no, and we have to reform some of these structural issues in our healthcare system that are driving up costs.

00:29:27.000 But here, I mean, listen, that was the whole exchange with Obamacare.

00:29:30.000 A bunch of people who couldn't afford it, we're going to pay for it.

00:29:32.000 Of course, that's going to make costs go up for everybody else, okay?

00:29:34.000 I mean, you can't wave a magic wand and make this stuff just disappear, but you cannot also bankrupt the whole of the U.S. government to keep subsidizing these runaway costs.

00:29:47.000 I mean, you just can't do it.

00:29:48.000 I mean, we'd love to.

00:29:49.000 We just can't do it.

00:29:50.000 Dr. Oz, great job.

00:29:51.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

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00:29:54.000 Thank you.

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00:31:07.000 Blake, why don't you just riff on what we just talked about, Dr. Oz?

00:31:11.000 Because again, this is a domestic issue.

00:31:13.000 This election is going to be domestically decided on domestic issues.

00:31:17.000 What's up, Jack?

00:31:18.000 We do have breaking.

00:31:20.000 Reagan National Airport has halted all flights after a bomb.

00:31:24.000 Bomb threat.

00:31:25.000 Yeah, the aircraft has been relocated to the east side of the airfield as a safety precaution.

00:31:30.000 We don't know if this is connected to the stuff in Jersey, but more bomb threats.

00:31:34.000 More bomb threats.

00:31:35.000 But to my previous point, Blake, when you get addicted to the dole, you can't get them off.

00:31:40.000 I mean, this is what we were warned about 100 years ago when you're expanding everything is, you know, once you are giving people free money, especially something they've done nothing to earn in any way, they very quickly become extremely entitled to it.

00:31:54.000 And we've seen this transition across the board.

00:31:57.000 I mean, we've seen it with the snap pause.

00:31:58.000 There are people on Snap who've never worked in 30 years, have not seriously tried to work, and it's an apocalyptic offense that they would ever be expected to do it.

00:32:07.000 That they would ever be asked to do it.

00:32:09.000 They adjust their spending, too.

00:32:10.000 And they adjust their spending.

00:32:11.000 And then if you look at Snap recipients, they spend more money on nice luxury foods than people who earned on Snap.

00:32:16.000 Okay, I want to play this clip really quick because we've got a lot of elections going on.

00:32:20.000 But again, this is an election season that will be determined by domestic issues.

00:32:25.000 Play Cut 55.

00:32:26.000 The reason you have the standoff is because if the hundreds of billions of dollars to create a financial incentive to have this giant magnet to attract illegals from every part of Earth to these states, if that is turned off, the illegals will leave because they're no longer being paid to come to the United States and stay here.

00:32:50.000 Wow.

00:32:52.000 And then they will lose a lot of voters.

00:32:54.000 So this is why I played this clip.

00:32:57.000 It's because this is a fundamental dynamic that you're seeing play out between left-wing messaging, right-wing messaging.

00:33:02.000 This is not about common sense or logic.

00:33:04.000 It's about emotions.

00:33:05.000 It's not ideology.

00:33:06.000 No, this is not ideology.

00:33:07.000 This is about you're mean and you're trying to hurt people and take their health care away.

00:33:12.000 And the Republicans are saying there's illegals on it.

00:33:15.000 We can't afford it.

00:33:17.000 And Blake, we definitely use that line.

00:33:20.000 So Blake was on assignment yesterday, but he had given us this line in the group chat yesterday, and we used it.

00:33:26.000 The gimmicks.

00:33:28.000 And it's just very clear.

00:33:29.000 This is the gimmicks.

00:33:31.000 And we realize that because we now have this massive, in a place like New York City, which is the model, the Mandami model is what they want to expand across the entire country. 0.98

00:33:41.000 The Mandani model explicitly is taxes white people so you can take their money and give it to resentful brown people for the resentful game. 0.93

00:33:49.000 That is how he frames it.

00:33:50.000 No, but that was his framing.

00:33:51.000 Exactly his friends.

00:33:52.000 I remember Charlie actually tweeted about that, and there was like a whole community note thing.

00:33:56.000 It's like, no, that's not true.

00:33:58.000 It's white people and richer neighborhoods.

00:34:01.000 It wasn't just about, but it was like in his platform, his policy platform to say tax whiter and richer neighbors. 1.00

00:34:08.000 I just want this piece of crap shipped back to Uganda so badly. 1.00

00:34:12.000 Well, I mean, he's got his paperwork. 1.00

00:34:14.000 There's this clip of Jay Jones saying that about the dog.

00:34:19.000 I'm having the team.

00:34:20.000 Have you seen this thing?

00:34:22.000 He almost kicked a dog.

00:34:23.000 Well, I mean, we know how he feels about children.

00:34:25.000 No, this is interesting.

00:34:26.000 Yeah, Jay Jones just attempted to kick a dog outside a Virginia polling station.

00:34:31.000 You're supposed to kiss babies and pet dogs when you're a politician.

00:34:33.000 Like, what is he even doing?

00:34:35.000 We have the clip what he wants to do with babies.

00:34:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:39.000 No, I'm saying, that's what I'm saying.

00:34:40.000 He's got the opposite, you know, the opposite take on both, apparently.

00:34:44.000 But like, you know, there's that great clip from Tim Cup.

00:34:47.000 I like the movie Tin Cup.

00:34:48.000 It's Kevin Costner.

00:34:49.000 It's a golf movie.

00:34:50.000 Charlie hated golf, but he and I disagreed on that.

00:34:53.000 But there's this moment where he's talking about the...

00:34:56.000 What's that?

00:34:56.000 You a rom-com guy, Andrew?

00:34:58.000 You big rom-com guy?

00:34:59.000 I don't know if I'm a rom-com guy, but I like Tin Cup.

00:35:01.000 So check it out.

00:35:03.000 It's a golf movie.

00:35:04.000 Anyway, it's a rom-com.

00:35:05.000 Basically, the villain in Tin Cup, like, they say he hates dogs.

00:35:10.000 Only bad people hate dogs.

00:35:13.000 That's the good as it gets, too, right?

00:35:15.000 All right, here it is.

00:35:16.000 Jack Napoleon.

00:35:17.000 178.

00:35:19.000 Make him red. 1.00

00:35:20.000 Make him red.

00:35:22.000 And make him wake up tonight when you get his week.

00:35:25.000 Say bye-bye.

00:35:26.000 See you soon.

00:35:29.000 For people on the audio side, I mean, He looks like he's about to kick the dog.

00:35:34.000 He swings his...

00:35:35.000 I mean, Blake, what's your take?

00:35:36.000 You're always like, Mr. Skeptic.

00:35:38.000 What's your take on this?

00:35:39.000 That was a weird kick, but it's just a weird thing to do.

00:35:42.000 It's just, you know.

00:35:44.000 It's a voter's dog.

00:35:44.000 It's not his foot.

00:35:45.000 And he wanted to pet it with his foot.

00:35:49.000 Sounds like something that would make sense to him.

00:35:52.000 He wanted to pet it with his patent shoes.

00:35:55.000 He didn't want to rub his shoe on it or something. 0.98

00:35:57.000 Okay, but the guy fetishizes about murdering his political opponents and their kids. 0.94

00:36:02.000 It's the only way to change people's views. 0.88

00:36:03.000 It's the only way to change people's views.

00:36:04.000 They have to feel pain.

00:36:05.000 It's not to debate them.

00:36:07.000 They must feel pain before they change their views.

00:36:09.000 And by the way, guess what Charlie's killer said about him?

00:36:12.000 Some hate you just can't negotiate.

00:36:13.000 Some hate you can't negotiate out.

00:36:15.000 Sounds weirdly similar.

00:36:16.000 And then here's Jay Jones, who's campaigning to be the top cop in Virginia, the Commonwealth, and he just, branded Blade, instinctively tries to kick a dog.

00:36:27.000 Very strange.

00:36:28.000 Almost like when people show you who they are, we should believe them.

00:36:31.000 You should believe them.

00:36:32.000 Look at that.

00:36:32.000 That is the image.

00:36:33.000 That's a kick.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - November 04, 2025

It's Election Day! Watching the Races that Matter

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