00:00:52.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:00.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries.
00:01:05.000Destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:50.000We learned this morning that the FDA is now saying that it's okay to take ivermectin if you have COVID.
00:02:59.000Marie, you know the doctors I've been dealing with and talking to for years now.
00:03:05.000They believe that probably hundreds of thousands of Americans lost their lives because they were denied early treatment.
00:03:10.000And they were denied it because the FDA.
00:03:12.000Sabotage, for example, ivermectin, and they said, Come on, y'all, you're not a cow, you're not a horse.
00:03:16.000You know, this is supposedly horse medicine.
00:03:18.000No, this is a Nobel Prize winning medicine that could have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
00:03:26.000They needed to demonize early treatments because early treatments then would have prevented panic around the virus, would have prevented lockdowns, prevented vaccine mandates.
00:03:36.000The cause set in motion was they needed to kill in the crib, and excuse the graphic detail there, the idea of early treatments.
00:04:51.000The challenge that I have is the individual people who are part of that, who work in those agencies and are doing those actions, I don't know that they individually understand.
00:05:00.000What impacts their actions are having.
00:05:06.000I mean, the FDA finally admits something that we already knew, which is that off label prescribing is legal, not only legal, but it's championed by the FDA.
00:05:15.000They want us to use off label drugs because we know there are a lot of diseases in which already approved drugs are effective, and we should be using those physicians to help our patients.
00:05:24.000And now the truth comes out after two years of just disinformation and propaganda.
00:05:29.000It was pure disinformation and propaganda.
00:05:31.000And some Americans are now just all rolling their eyes, shrugging their shoulders.
00:05:38.000We cannot forget this story, everybody.
00:05:41.000Think about how many kids had to have school lockdowns because the virus was such a big threat.
00:05:46.000Think about how many kids committed suicide because of the lockdowns.
00:05:49.000How many students that are still experiencing depression and anxiety, they're on benzos or Xanax or Zoloft or some form of that because of the lockdowns.
00:05:59.000We are still living with the consequences.
00:06:02.000If we would have been able to have Dr. Corey early treatments, we would have been a freer society.
00:06:11.000I mean, early treatments were a major, major impediment to the pre paying goals of the COVID response, right?
00:06:19.000Which was this global vaccination campaign.
00:06:22.000And that's what everyone needs to understand about why these actions were taken against ivermectin and also hydroxychloroquine, right?
00:06:30.000Is that they were effective early treatments, which would have decimated, first of all, it would have removed the ability to give an emergency use authorization for the vaccines, and it would have absolutely skyrocketed vaccine hesitancy.
00:06:42.000Come on, all of your listeners, all of my colleagues, everyone that I know in my life would have rather taken one of the safest drugs in history than an experimental gene therapy shot.
00:06:53.000I mean, it was so important that they destroy the idea that there was an effective early treatment.
00:07:34.000And he, and he had a series of interviews.
00:07:37.000And not to mention, remember his selfie video he did where they changed, by the way, the aesthetic on CNN to make him look greeny, green and sickly?
00:07:48.000And Joe Rogan was just asking the question and they said, oh no, no, ivermectin was a horse dewormer.
00:07:53.000Actively involved in the murder of people is what the media was doing by saying that this drug is a horse dewormer and you're going to die from it and all this.
00:08:02.000When is Joe Rogan going to get his apology, Dr. Corey?
00:08:18.000But let me put Joe Rogan's story into context.
00:08:21.000So there's a chapter in my book which is called the Horse Dewormer PR Campaign.
00:08:26.000And I literally trace the structure, the rollout, and the sequence, the chronological sequence of what that was.
00:08:33.000And it was triggered in the middle of August of 2021 when data came out showing that the prescriptions of ivermectin in the United States were hitting 90,000 a week, which was like 20 times pre pandemic levels.
00:08:46.000And you can see in rapid sequence, the CDC sent out a memo to every state department of health, which got to every licensed doctor in that state, warning them that people were getting sick from overdoses of ivermectin, which was totally false.
00:08:59.000The data that they provided was actually incorrect and overinflated.
00:09:04.000And after the CDC did that, the FDA followed up within two days with a tweet.
00:09:09.000Then you started to see a PR campaign.
00:09:12.000And the way I recognize them, a friend of mine told me this trick, is that he calls them two by fours, which is two weeks, four different media sources hammering, hammering, hammering the same story, synchronized, you know, memo messaging.
00:09:26.000So, horse de wormer, horse de wormer, horse de wormer, late night talk show host, daytime broadcasters, newspaper headlines.
00:09:33.000And here's the thing, Charlie, in the middle of it, on like September 3rd or 5th, Joe Rogan gets COVID and admits he took ivermectin.
00:09:42.000So, one of the things that I've been trying to tell Joe is like, dude, you got COVID in the middle of a global disinformation PR campaign against ivermectin.
00:09:51.000And that's why he exploded in that issue, is because they were literally making a major move to destroy ivermectin.
00:10:07.000And early treatments were a threat to tyranny.
00:10:10.000It's that you could go through the entire.
00:10:12.000If you have early treatments, then you don't need an mRNA gene altering shot.
00:10:16.000If you have early treatments, you don't have panic.
00:10:18.000If you have early treatments, you don't need lockdowns.
00:10:21.000If you have early treatments, you do not have massive trillions of dollars of bills being spent in Washington, D.C. Early treatments was the cause set in motion.
00:10:30.000And they did everything they could, Dr. Corey.
00:10:33.000But I'll say this, and I've said this privately before you were terrific.
00:12:08.000So, Charlie, I think you recognize the magnitude of that publication.
00:12:12.000So, without tooting my own horn, I've written north of 15 op eds in major media outlets throughout COVID.
00:12:22.000This one was probably the most important one yet.
00:12:25.000For those of us deeply studied, not only in what you talked about, which is the millions of deaths caused by the suppression of early treatments, but let's now move on to the vaccines.
00:12:35.000This vaccine escapade will go down in history as a humanitarian catastrophe.
00:12:42.000We saw it in many different data sources, but the most compelling and the most disturbing and the least arguable is the data coming out of the actuarial societies, right?
00:12:56.000Their whole business is on data and trends and consistency and rates.
00:13:01.000And, you know, a year ago at the end of 2021, one of the CEOs of one of the largest life insurance companies spoke, frankly, at this random event.
00:13:10.000It was an Indiana Chamber of Commerce event, and he just started saying that they're seeing unprecedented deaths of young people.
00:13:43.000And, you know, we basically just put out the data, which is this massive excess mortality in the healthiest people in society with a sudden rise in 2021.
00:14:05.000Lockdowns didn't happen in September of 2021.
00:14:08.000What happened in September of 21 to lead to these unprecedented rises?
00:14:12.000And just to go back to what that CEO said, right, is he said that a 10% rise in death claims in any sector that they insure, a 10% rise over year to year is a one in 200 year event.
00:14:26.000And they were reporting 38% increases.
00:14:30.000In death claims amongst the healthiest sectors of society.
00:14:34.000And they were all occurring in the third quarter of 2021.
00:14:38.000And they were occurring in white collar workers.
00:14:40.000Charlie, let me just finish that my last point.
00:15:12.000Cannot think of anything with that tight temporal association.
00:15:15.000So, even if you want to talk about glyphosate or the pesticides or global warming or opiate addiction or lockdowns, there's nothing with temporal association.
00:15:23.000So, anything that preceded that rise has to be the most likely cause.
00:15:27.000And I cannot think of any other credible explanation than the sudden proliferation of workplace vaccine mandates and federal mandates.
00:15:34.000And there's other data showing that the government.
00:15:37.000Employed Americans died at far greater rates than anyone.
00:15:43.000And that was exactly at the time when federal employee mandates came out.
00:15:46.000I mean, Charlie, you and I both know the answer, but it is important to go through the exercise.
00:15:51.000You don't want to be incorrect in establishing cause.
00:15:54.000Yeah, and I mean, I have very strong opinions, but I'm just searching for other answers.
00:15:58.000And does anybody care about finding the truth?
00:16:01.000That's what's even more disturbing, right?
00:16:03.000It's like the indifference to even want to look.
00:16:08.000That's part of the whole thing, though.
00:16:09.000Of course, they're not interested in the answer because these are the same people, our authorities, those who we entrusted with governing and navigating our public health, literally led us to slaughter.
00:16:21.000You think that they want to find out the truth of what they did and then have to admit it and know that they're responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of young, vibrant Americans in the prime of their lives?
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00:19:38.000I just want you to look hard and count them.
00:19:40.000That isn't the basis for a criminal charge.
00:19:43.000Other than that, it looks like it's a replication of the DC case.
00:19:46.000Now, remember that the appropriate way of challenging an election, the legally appropriate way is to put up a slate of alternate electors.
00:19:57.000That's the way it was done in Tilden Hayes.
00:19:59.000That's the way it was done in the 1960 election and validated by a court in Hawaii.
00:20:07.000That's the way it was done when I was involved in challenging the election of George Bush.
00:20:14.000On behalf of Al Gore, I represented the voters of Palm Beach County.
00:20:17.000And we were planning, obviously, to put up a slate of Florida electors who would represent what we believe, courts ruled against us, but what we honestly believe was the electoral results in Florida.
00:20:30.000That's the way you challenge elections.
00:20:32.000You don't get local prosecutors or even special counsel to indict somebody for doing what has been done historically in the way of challenging elections.
00:20:43.000Or you go back and you read Professor Lawrence Tribes.
00:20:47.000He was a Democrat who was one of the lawyers for Al Gore.
00:20:50.000He proposed this way of challenging the election, and now his research assistant has proposed the similar way of challenging the election in 2020.
00:21:00.000But in one case, they're going after them criminally.
00:22:11.000It's just kind of a technical thing, then, right?
00:22:14.000It's a technical thing, but they'll challenge it.
00:22:16.000They'll say this proves that there was no real process.
00:22:20.000But remember, too, grand juries are not required in state courts, only in the federal court.
00:22:24.000The constitutional requirement of grand jury.
00:22:28.000Only applies to the federal government.
00:22:30.000So it would not get into the federal courts or up to the Supreme Court, even if the grand jury had been tainted.
00:22:37.000And it largely becomes a formality, like you said, a hand sandwich, and it's not exactly difficult to get a grand jury to agree to something.
00:22:47.000We're going to see other actors involved here, Professor.
00:22:51.000Since they're going with Rico, is it they're trying to create a set of circumstances where they want people to rat out Donald Trump?
00:22:59.000To try to get less prison time or no prison time at all whatsoever.
00:23:02.000This feels as if they're going after some sort of, I mean, he says here, violation of the Georgia Rico Act, conspiracy to commit false statements and writings, and conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree.
00:23:13.000Professor, that's a fair amount of charges for a single phone call, unless they're going after other elements of this, if I'm not mistaken, though.
00:25:12.000What Trump's team ought to do is go back.
00:25:14.000And evaluate every single federal case over the last 10 years and see how much time there was between the indictment and the actual trial, particularly in complex cases like this.
00:25:26.000And you'll see the average is much closer to a year or even more than this kind of thing.
00:25:48.000Judge Cannon in Florida is being attacked because she was appointed by Trump.
00:25:52.000So she is probably going to try to lean over backwards to appear to be fair.
00:25:56.000And the judge in the District of Columbia, appointed by Obama, with a long history of association with the Boyce Schiller firm, the most conflicted and, in my view, the most corrupt firm in modern history, she's going to try to lean over backwards at the beginning to try to show that they're fair.
00:26:12.000And then when the trial comes up, we'll see what happens.
00:26:16.000And so then we have, let me ask you, is there He very well might be standing trial for simultaneous indictments, or usually do the courts allow one trial to end for the other?
00:26:25.000Because then you have the New York case, you have civil cases.
00:26:28.000So, well, criminal cases go before civil cases, criminal cases come before civil cases.
00:26:34.000Generally, federal trials come before state trials.
00:26:37.000In fact, already D.A. Bragg has said that he will defer to the federal court and put off his incredibly weak case in New York until after the Florida case.
00:26:48.000Now that there's a D.C. case, which is supposed to come before the Florida case, even though the indictment.
00:27:22.000We've explored this topic before, Professor, but it's worth repeating.
00:27:26.000For so-called institutionalists that are running the Department of Justice, their indifference to how half the country has zero trust in what the DOJ does now is shocking.
00:27:38.000I want a country where I trust our Department of Justice.
00:27:42.000Well, the best example is yesterday's decision or the day before, a couple of days ago's decision to appoint a special counsel in direct violation of the words of the applicable resolution, regulation.
00:27:56.000The regulation says the person appointed must, shall, not may, shall be outside of the government.
00:28:03.000And Garland appointed somebody who was the U.S. Attorney.
00:28:08.000Obviously, who serves at the pleasure of the attorney general, that's precisely the opposite of what's supposed to be.
00:28:14.000And when you're going after and investigating the son of the incumbent president, you better dot every I and cross every T.
00:28:21.000And to start by appointing somebody who is ineligible under the regulations that are part of what regulates the Justice Department, I just don't understand it.
00:28:33.000I always had high regard for Garland as a, you know, do it by the books guy, former judge, rule of law.
00:29:55.000Professor Dershowitz, you're fired up today for good reason.
00:29:59.000Are you seeing any indication amongst any of the classical liberals, not leftists, liberals that still speak to you, that they think this is an overreach, that they're a little uncomfortable with how the government is treating Donald Trump?
00:30:15.000I don't see it widespread because most people who claim to be liberals are anything but.
00:30:19.000Most people who claim to be progressive or woke or anything but.
00:30:23.000They are Stalinists, many of them, who just want to suppress any free speech or due process that doesn't satisfy their own goals.
00:30:31.000But there are a handful of classic liberals still left.
00:30:36.000Jack Goldsmith wrote a piece in the New York Times the other day saying, hmm, although there's an argument that maybe Trump did commit crimes, he shouldn't be prosecuted because he's running for president.
00:31:22.000When you're going after the man running for president against the incumbent, you have to lean over backwards to be absolutely fair.
00:31:28.000You have to make sure you're not stretching the law, stretching the facts, but that you're applying it absolutely fairly in the same way you would apply it to members of your own party.
00:32:19.000He will be defeated, I predict, on appeal.
00:32:22.000You know, it was Mark Levin who called me the legal Nostradamus because I have predicted all these things, not because I'm smarter than the other people, but I predicted, for example, that the Hunter Biden deal would not be accepted.
00:32:35.000Because I make my predictions based on 60 years of experience, not on the basis of wishful thinking.
00:32:40.000CNN's predictions have been wrong on almost every occasion.
00:32:44.000I was hoping CNN would put on a show in which they showed their quote experts making predictions and then they showed how none of the predictions came true.
00:32:56.000They won't admit that they're misleading the American public by their false predictions, but they are.
00:33:02.000And, um, you know, I predict that, uh, these, these verdicts at trial Will go against Trump, many of them, but not on appeal.
00:33:12.000The courts will not tolerate this kind of abuse of the legal system.
00:33:15.000Now, do you mean the actual D.C. appeals, or do you mean the Supreme Court of the United States potentially?
00:33:21.000I think first the Court of Appeals, which is a lot fairer than the jurors will be in this case, but then ultimately the Supreme Court, which has to review cases involving a presidential candidate and a former president.
00:33:50.000The special prosecutor Smith indicted him under the Ku Klux Klan statute, which talks about hooded and masked men driving formerly enslaved people away from the voting booths.
00:34:03.000And it says that if two or more people conspire to deny any citizen their constitutional rights, they're guilty of a crime.
00:34:10.000Well, what if the courts ultimately rule that Smith has denied?
00:34:13.000Trump's constitutional rights by indicting him for these false charges.
00:34:17.000Would he be guilty under his own statute?
00:34:20.000Would he be guilty of lying by leaving out the key words?
00:34:24.000He tried to describe the speech on January 6th, a speech I disapprove of, but constitutionally protected.
00:34:31.000But Smith willfully, deliberately, and maliciously left out the words peacefully and patriotically when he purported to describe the speech of January 6th.
00:34:40.000That's a lie of omission, which under the law can be just as serious as a lie of commission.
00:34:46.000I haven't heard anyone make that point.
00:34:48.000That's why Professor Dershowitz is the best in the game.